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ShadowJK | killall -11 browserd ; /etc/init.d/tablet-browser* start seems to only work once on diablo | 03:32 |
ShadowJK | (for forcing garbage collect without losing open browser windows) | 03:32 |
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sLumPia | is this the best howto to follow up to use n900 as wifi hotspot? | 06:04 |
sLumPia | http://wiki.maemo.org/N900_ad_hoc_wifi_hotspot | 06:04 |
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Sazpaimon | can we please PLEASE turn off colors and bold fonts on TMO | 06:41 |
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Sazpaimon | ive had it with people like qorax randomly making his text blue | 06:42 |
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Sazpaimon | ive actually had it with qorax in general | 06:42 |
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Macer | uhm | 07:14 |
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Hurrian | anyone else used that NOLO color changer script? | 13:24 |
Hurrian | it's really, really neat | 13:24 |
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Sicelo | which one is it Hurrian ? | 14:44 |
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Hurrian | @Sicelo the newest one in the NOLO thread | 15:07 |
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sLumPia | can we use n900 as a modem in linux? | 15:23 |
jacekowski | yes | 15:23 |
merlin1991 | sLumPia: yes | 15:23 |
merlin1991 | it has obexd running | 15:23 |
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merlin1991 | it's actually easier on linux than on windows :D | 15:23 |
sLumPia | merlin1991: what linux did u use, ubuntu? | 15:24 |
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merlin1991 | it worked for me on ubuntu and debian | 15:27 |
sLumPia | i'm not using ubuntu | 15:28 |
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merlin1991 | depending on your kernel modules it should just work | 15:30 |
sLumPia | i'm using 2.6.38 | 15:31 |
sLumPia | which module i should compile on the kernel? | 15:32 |
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Hurrian | phonet | 15:46 |
Hurrian | Device Drivers -> Network -> USB Network Adapters | 15:47 |
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sLumPia | i cant find phonet | 15:54 |
sLumPia | do you mean usbnet? | 15:54 |
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Pali | lxp1, can you recompile wl1251 packet injection driver against kernel-power pre50? | 16:06 |
lxp1 | yes i can recompile it tomorrow or maybe already this night | 16:08 |
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sLumPia | ok, my linux box have detected n900 | 16:17 |
sLumPia | i follow this guide: http://dartarrow.net/using-nokia-n900-as-a-modem/137 | 16:18 |
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sLumPia | but when i run wvdial, it said cant open /dev/ttyACM0 | 16:19 |
sLumPia | how do i know which tty n900 got? | 16:20 |
merlin1991 | maybe you find some info in dmesg? | 16:20 |
DocScrutinizer | Hurrian: linkie? | 16:21 |
Hurrian | @Doc: wdym | 16:23 |
sLumPia | merlin1991: nothing in dmesg | 16:24 |
DocScrutinizer | [2012-02-18 14:07:03] <Hurrian> @Sicelo the newest one in the NOLO thread | 16:24 |
DocScrutinizer | Hurrian: here's anti-tmo | 16:25 |
Hurrian | ah | 16:25 |
DocScrutinizer | so not everybody knows about every new tmo thread | 16:25 |
Hurrian | http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=75504&page=3 | 16:25 |
DocScrutinizer | thanks | 16:26 |
Hurrian | if you can't get the image size small enough, use gimp to save an indexed bmp file, then save that one as rgb565. | 16:26 |
Hurrian | oh, and the color switch is misleading. | 16:27 |
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Hurrian | -c 0000 is black, FFFF is white, and I have no clue as to using other colors. | 16:27 |
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Hurrian | i tried using 0000000000000000 a few times, wondered why it didnt work | 16:29 |
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DocScrutinizer | YAY, I don't even dare to look into http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=1165831&postcount=29 to find how bad it is | 16:42 |
DocScrutinizer | AIUI NOLO lives in NAND which has inband bad block management, I bet this tool never heard of | 16:43 |
Hurrian | it uses flasher | 16:43 |
DocScrutinizer | as robbiethe1st about 1st version beckupmenu if you dunno what I'm talking about | 16:43 |
DocScrutinizer | OOH, ok then | 16:44 |
Hurrian | it apparently has a NOLO image built into it (legally questionable) which it copies to tmp and modifies, then feeds it to flasher | 16:44 |
DocScrutinizer | hehehehe | 16:44 |
Hurrian | then again, that qgil exception | 16:44 |
DocScrutinizer | not only *legally* highly questionable | 16:44 |
DocScrutinizer | I wonder what it will do to my highly customized proprietary NOLO ;-P | 16:45 |
Hurrian | the only thing that I would ask as a mod to NOLO is to reattach the testicles | 16:46 |
Hurrian | uhh, enable configuration | 16:46 |
DocScrutinizer | charging charging charging charging charging charging charging charging charging charging charging | 16:46 |
Hurrian | there are so many backward things in the n900 just to load a different system | 16:46 |
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Hurrian | @DocScrutinizer, flat battery recovery? | 16:47 |
merlin1991 | wut "highly customized propietary nolo?" wtf? | 16:47 |
DocScrutinizer | and OF COURSE configure location of "kernel" | 16:47 |
DocScrutinizer | and whatever "cmdline" (or what it's here) | 16:47 |
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DocScrutinizer | merlin1991: the one O got from Steve Jobs for my 75th birthday | 16:48 |
DocScrutinizer | s/O/I/ | 16:48 |
infobot | DocScrutinizer meant: merlin1991: the one I got from Steve Jobs for my 75th birthday | 16:48 |
merlin1991 | Oh I thought it was a handout from elop to calm you down | 16:48 |
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DocScrutinizer | it was a handout from Steve to shut Elop down | 16:49 |
DocScrutinizer | or shoot? | 16:49 |
DocScrutinizer | XP | 16:49 |
DocScrutinizer | whatever, I already helped to prepare modded NOLOs | 16:50 |
DocScrutinizer | so you could reasonably expect to find some on N900 | 16:50 |
DocScrutinizer | so not a brilliant idea when one mod kills the other mod | 16:51 |
DocScrutinizer | anyway... | 16:51 |
DocScrutinizer | meh | 16:51 |
merlin1991 | well | 16:51 |
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Hurrian | hmm, i wonder who uploaded that aes-hw enabled NOLO | 16:52 |
DocScrutinizer | I'd just friggin bloody wanna know if NOLO tries to boot from "initrd" empty mtdpart | 16:53 |
DocScrutinizer | and if so, what to place there exactly to make it actually start that | 16:53 |
Hurrian | it doesnt feed the initrd to the maemo kernel. | 16:53 |
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Hurrian | if you wanted to try to flash an initrd, try looking into what worked for the old internet tablets | 16:54 |
Hurrian | iirc the FS is jffs2 | 16:54 |
DocScrutinizer | yep | 16:54 |
DocScrutinizer | sure | 16:54 |
DocScrutinizer | I idly pondered if uBoot could live in "initrd" rather than steal space from "kernel" | 16:55 |
Hurrian | you /could/ put a jffs2 driver into uboot.bin that's stuck to the kernel, and have that uboot load another uboot from initrd | 16:56 |
DocScrutinizer | seems like a completely reflash-transparent and rather unlimited by size-restrictions way to get a custom BL | 16:56 |
Hurrian | that said uboot could contain lots of fun stuff, like backupmenu, or a grub-like menu to change kernel configs on the fly | 16:56 |
DocScrutinizer | Hurrian: which defeats my purpose as given last line :-) | 16:56 |
Hurrian | isn't initrd not reflashed? | 16:57 |
DocScrutinizer | yes that's the point | 16:57 |
Hurrian | the only thing you have to reflash is the kernel if you did a COMBINED | 16:57 |
DocScrutinizer | so *IF* NOLO would load anything from this mtdpart, it would survive even reflashing | 16:58 |
Hurrian | well, we don't know how it's going to do so | 16:58 |
Hurrian | so a nice thing would be just to use uboot to load a bigger u-boot | 16:58 |
DocScrutinizer | maybe, not really nice though | 16:59 |
Hurrian | it's hacky, but it can't be helped | 16:59 |
Hurrian | i mean, the double launch code only has to kick in if it sees a u-boot system on initrd | 16:59 |
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DocScrutinizer | it possibly could, IF someone finally RE'd friggin NOLO to understand what exactly it does | 17:00 |
DocScrutinizer | also wasn't there a NEW NOLO with errr... pr1.2? | 17:01 |
Hurrian | yes, there was | 17:01 |
Hurrian | no one knows what exactly it changes, though] | 17:01 |
DocScrutinizer | I got an idea | 17:01 |
DocScrutinizer | cloudy idea though | 17:01 |
DocScrutinizer | it handles some stuff around security features | 17:02 |
DocScrutinizer | secure mode | 17:02 |
DocScrutinizer | aka (BLAERGHHH!) aegis | 17:02 |
Hurrian | n900 has jack shit for security though | 17:02 |
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DocScrutinizer | as stskeeps et all AIUI were mad enough to think mer/meegoCE needs this bullshit too | 17:03 |
Hurrian | wat | 17:03 |
Hurrian | wat | 17:03 |
DocScrutinizer | or a similar shit | 17:03 |
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merlin1991 | thought in the end mer / meegoCE had none of it | 17:04 |
Hurrian | they barely have the hw resources to run anything | 17:04 |
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Hurrian | the last thing they need is selinux/tomoyo hooking into shit indiscriminately | 17:05 |
DocScrutinizer | well, or maybe the original xloader/NOLO combo of N900 didn't even care about dropping secure mode so you could run whatever you want in secure mode on N900 XP | 17:05 |
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Hurrian | who cares? even if secure mode is on, ARM Trustzone is not configured | 17:06 |
Hurrian | and who would know how to configure that? | 17:06 |
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DocScrutinizer | thanks to absolutely closed nature of NOLO (incl changelog) we never really will know | 17:06 |
DocScrutinizer | I just wonder how stskeeps came to think we need new NOLO XP | 17:07 |
Hurrian | the problem is that we can't configure the damn thing | 17:07 |
DocScrutinizer | quite obviously sth that hit them during development of meegoCE for N9 | 17:08 |
Hurrian | a large part of preinit seemingly can be configured to launch some form of built in menu, if nolo had it turned on | 17:08 |
DocScrutinizer | that's linux land | 17:08 |
DocScrutinizer | and bootmenu/backupmenu already using this since decades | 17:09 |
Hurrian | just saying, apparently nolo config was stripped late into N900 dev | 17:10 |
DocScrutinizer | hmm, nfc if NOLO *ever* had a way to config it | 17:10 |
Hurrian | NITs | 17:10 |
DocScrutinizer | N8x0 NOLO loaded a initrd that probably not even cared about standard kernel? | 17:11 |
DocScrutinizer | that'S where out N900 unused "imitrd" mtdpart comes from | 17:11 |
DocScrutinizer | our* | 17:12 |
Hurrian | indeed. apparently nokia decided 2MB was enough for all absolutely required kernel modules to be built into kernel. | 17:12 |
DocScrutinizer | :nod: | 17:13 |
DocScrutinizer | which now bites our back ith PK + uBoot | 17:13 |
Hurrian | with that, initrd was no longer needed for maemo booting. | 17:13 |
Hurrian | well, they didn't really read tmo, with the impressive uses for that initrd space. | 17:13 |
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DocScrutinizer | I finally have to wrap my head around kernel cmdline vs atags | 17:14 |
DocScrutinizer | all that is so incredibly messed up | 17:15 |
DocScrutinizer | kernels with hardcoded cmdline | 17:15 |
DocScrutinizer | NOLO that can change cmdline but doesn't have any effect n boot | 17:16 |
sLumPia | this is my dmesg: | 17:16 |
Hurrian | http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.arm/browse_thread/thread/8c5575ac13f8da64?pli=1 | 17:16 |
sLumPia | # cat ../tmp/dmesg | 17:16 |
Hurrian | Typical things that can be passed are MAC | 17:16 |
Hurrian | address of the box, initrd info etc., | 17:16 |
Hurrian | interesting. | 17:16 |
DocScrutinizer | sLumPia: eeh? | 17:17 |
sLumPia | usb 1-3: new high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 7 | 17:17 |
Hurrian | http://stackoverflow.com/questions/6716071/cortex-a9-boot-and-memory | 17:17 |
sLumPia | cdc_ether 1-3:1.8: usb0: register 'cdc_ether' at usb-0000:00:12.2-3, CDC Ethernet Device, 8e:ed:74:0f:ec:7d | 17:17 |
Hurrian | "You can use both the traditional linux command line to tell linux boot information like what address to find the root file system, and ATAGs. Atags are structures in memory that I think r0 or something like that is set to when you branch from the bootloader to linux. The general concept though is the chip powers up, boots from rom or ram, if prepares ram so that it is ready to use, linux might | 17:17 |
Hurrian | want/need to be copied from rom to ram, the root file system, if separate, might want to be copied to somewhere else in ram. ATAGs are prepared to tell arm where to decompress linux if need be, as well as where to find the command line and or where to find things like the root file system, some registers are prepared as passed parameters to linux and lastly the bootloader branches to the address | 17:17 |
Hurrian | containing the entry point in the linux kernel. " | 17:17 |
sLumPia | udev[4062]: renamed network interface usb0 to n900 | 17:17 |
DocScrutinizer | sLumPia: please don't post random stuff without context here - also watch out for max-pasteline-policy which is ~3 concecutive lines, otherwise use pastebin please | 17:18 |
Hurrian | hmm, so the N900 is probably only passing load addresses using atags | 17:19 |
Hurrian | seeing as it is necessary for the nemo kernels to boot | 17:20 |
sLumPia | DocScrutinizer: sorry. previously i was trying to connect n900 as modem on linux | 17:20 |
Hurrian | the root file system etc is passed using cmdlines. | 17:20 |
DocScrutinizer | ~pastebin | 17:20 |
infobot | [~pastebin] A "pastebin" is a web-based service where you should paste anything over 3 lines so you don't flood the channel. Here are links to a few : http://www.pastebin.com , http://pastebin.ca , http://channels.debian.net/paste , http://paste.lisp.org , http://bin.cakephp.org/ , http://asterisk.pastey.net/ , or install pastebinit with yum or aptitude. | 17:20 |
DocScrutinizer | sLumPia: please understand that experts might be interested in exactly those log lines you kicked out as you thought are irrelevant | 17:21 |
DocScrutinizer | sLumPia: your last quote gives a good hint though (you might have picked right logline :-D): udev[4062]: renamed network interface usb0 to n900 | 17:24 |
DocScrutinizer | see if there's "/dev/n900" | 17:25 |
DocScrutinizer | if there is, use that interface for wvdial | 17:25 |
DocScrutinizer | may or may not work | 17:25 |
sLumPia | that's what i thought, but there was no /dev/n900 | 17:26 |
DocScrutinizer | probably not as it seems to be cdc_ether rather than cdc_phonet | 17:26 |
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DocScrutinizer | find /dev -iname "*900*" -ls | 17:27 |
DocScrutinizer | find /dev -iname "*usb*" -ls | 17:27 |
sLumPia | http://pastebin.com/fJyaBHMs | 17:28 |
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sLumPia | sorry, i'm running xchat from n900 | 17:28 |
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sLumPia | if i want to connect n900 as modem in linux, iirc i need to disconnect 3g connection on n900 | 17:29 |
sLumPia | which mean, i got to quit xchat | 17:29 |
DocScrutinizer | yup | 17:29 |
DocScrutinizer | sLumPia: | 17:29 |
DocScrutinizer | http://webchat.freenode.net/ | 17:30 |
sLumPia | yes? | 17:30 |
DocScrutinizer | you want to use same or similar nick ;-D | 17:30 |
sLumPia | i have xchat on my linux, it just i dont have internet connection right now | 17:32 |
DocScrutinizer | ooh | 17:32 |
sLumPia | that is why i want to connect n900 to my pc | 17:33 |
DocScrutinizer | yes, gotit | 17:33 |
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sLumPia | brb | 17:34 |
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DocScrutinizer | udevadm monitor might be a friend of yours | 17:34 |
DocScrutinizer | wonder if (s)he seen last post of mine | 17:35 |
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sLumPia | DocScrutinizer: find result: http://pastebin.com/egtPFiN2 | 17:46 |
sLumPia | wvdial http://pastebin.com/2iFVPeC8 | 17:46 |
DocScrutinizer | no *900* find? | 17:47 |
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sLumPia | ups, sorry. there is: /dev/.udev/db/net:900 | 17:49 |
DocScrutinizer | yeah, but doesn't really work | 17:49 |
sLumPia | yup, wvdial say inappropriate ioctl for device | 17:50 |
DocScrutinizer | you most likely should see a "new" ttyACM or ttyUSB in your /dev/ | 17:50 |
DocScrutinizer | or /dev/*/ | 17:50 |
DocScrutinizer | udevadm monitor, prior to plugin, might yield some hints | 17:51 |
DocScrutinizer | btw if there's anybody more knowledgeable around and just lurking: please kick in, I'm basically clueless on this topic | 17:52 |
DocScrutinizer | maybe your udev rules even rename it to /dev/modem or whatever | 17:54 |
StyXman_ | network interfaces are not devces from a linux perspective, they don't appear in /dev | 17:55 |
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sLumPia | also, i have this udev rule on my pc: http://pastebin.com/i87wsT8p | 18:02 |
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sLumPia | StyXman_: so i should left Modem= in my wvdial.conf? | 18:04 |
StyXman_ | sLumPia: it should be a modem device, /dev/ttyUSB0 or something like that | 18:05 |
Sicelo | /dev/ttyACM0 | 18:07 |
sLumPia | there is no /dev/ttyACM0 or /dev/USB0 on my /dev | 18:08 |
sLumPia | :( | 18:08 |
Sicelo | i have 2.6.32 kernel here.. and it's /dev/ttyACM0 .. i can talk to it via minicom | 18:10 |
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Sicelo | [ 7144.058234] cdc_acm 1-3:1.6: ttyACM0: USB ACM device | 18:11 |
Sicelo | [ 7144.063416] usbcore: registered new interface driver cdc_acm | 18:11 |
Sicelo | [ 7144.064440] cdc_acm: v0.26:USB Abstract Control Model driver for USB modems and ISDN adapters | 18:11 |
sLumPia | i'm using 2.6.38 kernel | 18:11 |
Sicelo | u don't have a line like the 3 above? | 18:11 |
sLumPia | this is my dmesg: http://pastebin.com/iTpgmQaM | 18:12 |
StyXman_ | maybe you forgot to load a module? | 18:13 |
Sicelo | rmmod cdc_ether; modprobe cdc_acm | 18:13 |
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sLumPia | i dont have cdc_acm module | 18:15 |
sLumPia | where is it? | 18:15 |
Sicelo | that's your point of fail then. u need to find one for your distro. i'm using Debian Squeeze. try 'modinfo cdc_acm' | 18:16 |
Sicelo | description: USB Abstract Control Model driver for USB modems and ISDN adapters | 18:17 |
sLumPia | ok, found it | 18:20 |
sLumPia | compiling kernel. wish me luck | 18:20 |
Sicelo | gentoo? | 18:20 |
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sLumPia | yup | 18:23 |
Sicelo | :) | 18:25 |
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DocScrutinizer | hah :-D | 18:27 |
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DocScrutinizer | tbh I never got it why we can't make N900 "share internet access" via wired networking I.E. via cdc_ether | 18:32 |
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DocScrutinizer | probably needs iptables config that's not available in stock kenel | 18:33 |
DocScrutinizer | kernel even | 18:33 |
Sicelo | because it works for KP. | 18:33 |
Sicelo | so stock kernel doesn't support iptables? | 18:34 |
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DocScrutinizer | afaik not | 18:35 |
DocScrutinizer | one of the reasons why you need powerkernel for hotspot | 18:36 |
Sicelo | hmm. i used stock kernel for only one week (for h-e-n), so never got to really know it's limitations | 18:36 |
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DocScrutinizer | for "classic" USB based sharing you'd just replace wifi with USB NIC | 18:37 |
DocScrutinizer | (in mobile hotspot) | 18:38 |
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DocScrutinizer | or simpler put: just do on N900 side what you're usually supposed to do on PC side when sharing internet of your linux PC to N900 | 18:39 |
DocScrutinizer | ;-) | 18:39 |
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Sicelo | my boss received Samsung i9100.. so he's showing off to me, to which i reply that i'd still love to get a second N900 if he paid more.. 2 days later he's pissed off because it's finishing his data plan in ways he can't understand | 18:40 |
Sicelo | :P | 18:40 |
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DocScrutinizer | haha | 18:41 |
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Sicelo | 0.o no 'real' multitasking with 1gb ram and dual core processor, lol | 18:50 |
Sicelo | wasteo of hardware | 18:50 |
Sicelo | *waste of | 18:51 |
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SpacedOut | New package 'minutemonitor' announcement. It has a daemon to add the duration to the call log (end_time was there but never set), and a gui to display it and the number of minutes used that period. | 18:52 |
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sLumPia | meh, can't find the correct wvdial.conf for my carrier | 19:12 |
sLumPia | btw, is that the appropriate way to use 'meh'? | 19:13 |
sLumPia | what is meh actually mean? | 19:13 |
sLumPia | :p | 19:13 |
Sicelo | ~meh | 19:13 |
infobot | meh int. /meh/ [The Simpsons] An interjection expressing apathy, or mgeary's favorite phrase | 19:13 |
Sicelo | sLumPia: u might find pppconfig to be easier to use. | 19:14 |
Sicelo | but u can easily find the info on the net as well :) | 19:15 |
Sicelo | i suppose you're getting a modem now.. | 19:15 |
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sLumPia | Sicelo: i know, but i'm tired (it's 1 am here) | 19:17 |
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sLumPia | thanks for all the help gus | 19:18 |
sLumPia | *guys | 19:18 |
sLumPia | gtg | 19:18 |
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suport | 283 | 19:44 |
suport | 283 | 19:44 |
suport | hello | 19:46 |
suport | hello | 19:46 |
suport | see me | 19:46 |
SpacedOut | I just released a new package minutemonitor, want to give it a try? It's in extras-devel. | 19:46 |
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suport | what | 19:48 |
suport | released a new package | 19:49 |
SpacedOut | It has a daemon to add the duration to the call log (end_time was there but never set), and a gui to display it and the number of minutes used that period. | 19:49 |
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suport | I use a mobile phone" | 19:51 |
suport | what you are user? | 19:51 |
SpacedOut | This is #maemo so Nokia N900 mostly. | 19:53 |
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suport | •¤%•¤•%¤•%¤•% | 19:54 |
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DocScrutinizer | suport: please stop flooding this chan with nonsense! | 20:02 |
DocScrutinizer | ShadowJK: ping | 20:03 |
ShadowJK | hello | 20:03 |
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DocScrutinizer | n900 *NEW* \o/ | 20:29 |
* DocScrutinizer buys the last one you can find in EMEA ;-P | 20:29 | |
DocScrutinizer | well, s/EMEA/Germany/ | 20:30 |
NIN102 | is this your third? | 20:30 |
DocScrutinizer | yep | 20:30 |
DocScrutinizer | pondering to get two | 20:30 |
DocScrutinizer | with only 3 devices, I feel almost naked | 20:31 |
DocScrutinizer | ;-P | 20:31 |
NIN102 | learn to live with one :-). | 20:31 |
DocScrutinizer | I can live with ONE *working* N900 :-) | 20:31 |
DocScrutinizer | 2 days ago I got my first "SIM registration failed" on my daily device | 20:32 |
DocScrutinizer | :-o | 20:32 |
* DocScrutinizer screams and runs | 20:32 | |
NIN102 | :/ | 20:32 |
Sicelo | DocScrutinizer: there's still a brand new N900 in one shop here, but i got no bucks to get it | 20:33 |
Sicelo | :P | 20:33 |
RST38h | folks, you are pathetic | 20:33 |
RST38h | ok, I am also pathetic. | 20:33 |
DocScrutinizer | indeed | 20:33 |
DocScrutinizer | :-D | 20:34 |
Sicelo | :D | 20:34 |
* ShadowJK has two, #2 with collapsed 's' key and dodgy headphone port, and #3 with "SGX Recovery triggered" | 20:34 | |
ShadowJK | #1 died of sim registration failed :P | 20:34 |
DocScrutinizer | I gather #1 is already recycled? | 20:34 |
ShadowJK | Yes, they replaced it and gave me #3 | 20:35 |
DocScrutinizer | hmm, I have no real clue if they replaced my #1 and if then how much of it | 20:36 |
NIN102 | I was lucky to get an N900 in mid 2011 as a replacement after my first died after 6 months(USB port), it was the time when many already got an N8/E7. phew... | 20:37 |
* DocScrutinizer annouces foundation of the N900-vintage-club | 20:37 | |
DocScrutinizer | club's goal: to keep alive N900 tradition, help with refurbishing, trade, spare parts | 20:38 |
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DocScrutinizer | of course I'm president of the club ;-P | 20:39 |
DocScrutinizer | and so far the only member | 20:39 |
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DocScrutinizer | ttyl | 20:40 |
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Tofe | QtQuick is really... quick :) | 20:47 |
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Phlogistique | hey | 20:55 |
Phlogistique | anyone here uses a japanese dictionnary on their N900? | 20:56 |
Phlogistique | which one | 20:56 |
Phlogistique | ? | 20:56 |
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