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| Jeff91 | So my n900 just took a two foot fall to the floor and now it doesn't display anything on the screen when I try to turn it on. It just has a faint black glow then it powers up. Any ideas what I broke? | 00:12 |
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| Sicelo | Macer: booted debian fine with nemo's kernel, modules, and firmware | 00:16 |
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| vizzy | hmm, i dont see fcam drivers in the repository, i added devel-extras but there is only fcamera, depends on fcam drivers, but.. which version? i need something like 0.1.7-2 not -1 | 00:37 |
| vizzy | will fcamera install the correct version? or is this aother thingy that went to csu? | 00:38 |
| Macer | Sicelo: nice | 00:38 |
| Macer | Sicelo: but booting is easy.. it's having functional hardware that is difficult ;) | 00:38 |
| vizzy | ah, ok, it tells me the correct version when i click install, weird... why is it not mentioned in dependencies.... | 00:41 |
| vizzy | maemo drives me crazy :) | 00:41 |
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| Sicelo | well, it's a tablet now Macer. touchscreen, sound, etc, works. right now i've been playing with ofono.. looks like there's promise there as well. i have Debian Wheezy on it, with Xfce | 00:42 |
| Sicelo | Macer: ^^ | 00:42 |
| Macer | heh | 00:43 |
| Macer | i want to see the nemo ux | 00:43 |
| Sicelo | franky, i don't need camera, gps, etc for my purposes. if i can get gprs/3g working, i'll have achieved my goal :) | 00:43 |
| Macer | "ux" heh | 00:43 |
| Sicelo | nor do i care about phone calls | 00:44 |
| Macer | oh | 00:44 |
| Macer | well i do ;-) | 00:44 |
| Macer | not only that but any os on a device should hace full functionality of the hardware | 00:44 |
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| Macer | that is what always drove me nuts with any os alternative on nokia's "open" devices | 00:45 |
| Macer | you found they were not open | 00:45 |
| Sicelo | heh | 00:45 |
| Macer | i kind of like this cheap charger i bought | 00:47 |
| Macer | it's a bl-5j charger with a usb port heh | 00:47 |
| Macer | so i have a battery charging now and my n900 :) | 00:47 |
| Macer | although i HATE using the usb port to charge.. i avoid it at all costs but i have 3 batteries and they are all dead | 00:48 |
| StyXman_ | Macer: buy more, even if they're not original. at least they're cheap, although not good for the environment | 00:49 |
| Macer | the 3 are fine.. i just was too lazy to charge them | 00:49 |
| StyXman_ | heeh | 00:49 |
| Macer | but i use the charger because of my last n900 | 00:49 |
| Macer | RIP | 00:49 |
| StyXman_ | I misread «dead» | 00:49 |
| Macer | with its usb port that ripped off | 00:50 |
| StyXman_ | the n900 or just the usb port? | 00:50 |
| StyXman_ | oh, ugh | 00:50 |
| Macer | and all the kings and all the kings men couldn't put it back together again | 00:50 |
| Macer | so i got a new one off ebay for $250 | 00:50 |
| Macer | which really was an awesome deal | 00:50 |
| Macer | considering how much they cost | 00:50 |
| Macer | $450+ | 00:50 |
| Macer | how much did they originally sell them for? i forget.. $500 or so? | 00:51 |
| StyXman_ | well, yeah, I bought mine for EUR 180 | 00:51 |
| StyXman_ | yeah, 500 $MONEYUNITS | 00:51 |
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| StyXman_ | UD in usa, EUR in europe, GBP in uk | 00:51 |
| StyXman_ | USD* | 00:51 |
| Macer | and now they are even more than that | 00:52 |
| Macer | to find one for $400 new you're lucky | 00:52 |
| dhbiker | 210 EUR in one store near me | 00:52 |
| Macer | amazon has some fools selling them for $800 wtf is up with that? | 00:52 |
| StyXman_ | really? I barely could find any | 00:52 |
| Macer | dhbiker: :-P they're probably refurbished | 00:52 |
| Macer | heh | 00:52 |
| Macer | or used | 00:52 |
| dhbiker | nah | 00:52 |
| dhbiker | new | 00:52 |
| dhbiker | brand new | 00:52 |
| Macer | LIES! | 00:52 |
| dhbiker | ill take a picture next time | 00:53 |
| Macer | where are you? HK? :-P | 00:53 |
| dhbiker | last one in this store | 00:53 |
| Macer | HK N900s don't count | 00:53 |
| dhbiker | Slovenia | 00:53 |
| StyXman_ | Macer: why? | 00:53 |
| Macer | heh... because it's HK .. there has to be something wrong with it :) | 00:53 |
| StyXman_ | Macer: shhhhh, mine's from there | 00:53 |
| dhbiker | lol | 00:54 |
| Macer | lmao | 00:54 |
| Macer | so is mine ;) | 00:54 |
| Macer | i just got lucky | 00:54 |
| Macer | my n900 is a finland edition | 00:54 |
| dhbiker | mine says korea :P | 00:54 |
| Macer | i feel special | 00:54 |
| Macer | dhbiker: soon all nokias will say china ;) | 00:54 |
| dhbiker | i dont care about the other nokias | 00:55 |
| dhbiker | just the n900 | 00:55 |
| dhbiker | :P | 00:55 |
| Macer | fair enough | 00:55 |
| Macer | but mine is finland | 00:55 |
| Macer | thought that was awesome | 00:55 |
| Macer | having a non-asian made phone | 00:55 |
| dhbiker | heh | 00:55 |
| StyXman_ | mine says «made in finland» too | 00:55 |
| dhbiker | on the other sticker says you got fooled | 00:56 |
| dhbiker | :P | 00:56 |
| Macer | doubt it | 00:56 |
| StyXman_ | dhbiker: most probably, but in the end, the phone is what I spected | 00:56 |
| StyXman_ | so, who cares | 00:56 |
| Macer | yup | 00:56 |
| dhbiker | heh | 00:56 |
| Macer | i actually thought i was going to get a fake one lol | 00:56 |
| StyXman_ | (that will be my position until the mofo breaks :) | 00:57 |
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| Macer | when it got here it was the real deal | 00:57 |
| dhbiker | yeah the N900 is pretty awesome phone | 00:57 |
| Macer | WOW | 00:57 |
| Macer | and for $250? | 00:57 |
| Macer | i felt like i won the lottery heh | 00:57 |
| dhbiker | haha | 00:57 |
| Macer | i was about to drop $450 for a ne one | 00:57 |
| Macer | i ebayed like 12 of them and kept losing | 00:57 |
| dhbiker | i got mine for 160 EUR | 00:57 |
| dhbiker | 3 months used | 00:57 |
| dhbiker | still in warranty till 2013 | 00:57 |
| dhbiker | :> | 00:57 |
| Macer | i actually really want an e7 | 00:58 |
| Macer | but for some reason that thing will not drop in price | 00:58 |
| Macer | it got down to like 350 then shot back up | 00:58 |
| Macer | it sucks | 00:58 |
| dhbiker | E7 ? | 00:58 |
| * dhbiker googles | 00:58 | |
| Macer | i was waiting for the 300 mark :) | 00:58 |
| Macer | yeah... running symbian | 00:58 |
| Macer | it's the n8 with a qwerty | 00:59 |
| Macer | heh | 00:59 |
| dhbiker | yuck | 00:59 |
| dhbiker | Symbian | 00:59 |
| dhbiker | -.- | 00:59 |
| Macer | lol | 00:59 |
| Macer | hey i know it lost to android and ios | 00:59 |
| Macer | but symbian is actually an awesome mobile o | 01:00 |
| Macer | os | 01:00 |
| dhbiker | was on android | 01:00 |
| dhbiker | total piece of shit | 01:00 |
| dhbiker | -.- | 01:00 |
| StyXman_ | I wouldn't say it's a piece of shit, it is succesful after all. it's just not for me | 01:01 |
| dhbiker | its not optimized | 01:02 |
| dhbiker | you need a task killer to free up the ram | 01:02 |
| dhbiker | umm ???? | 01:02 |
| StyXman_ | dhbiker: hmm, it's just a design decision | 01:02 |
| dhbiker | right | 01:02 |
| StyXman_ | you don't have apps, just components | 01:02 |
| StyXman_ | a component can be killed anytime the system decides | 01:03 |
| dhbiker | still prefer Linux.... | 01:03 |
| StyXman_ | dhbiker: of course, | 01:03 |
| StyXman_ | but the idea is that they don't care that much about apps | 01:03 |
| StyXman_ | it's a shift in the paradigm (sorry for the buzzword)'you can agree or not; I don't | 01:04 |
| StyXman_ | but clearly it works | 01:04 |
| dhbiker | i can see that | 01:04 |
| dhbiker | but still | 01:04 |
| dhbiker | android boots up way longer than maemo :p | 01:04 |
| StyXman_ | dhbiker: and with a little bit of effort you can change your boot sequence in maemo | 01:05 |
| StyXman_ | remove things like the nokia mini-video, etc | 01:05 |
| StyXman_ | but that's not a mainstream need, we're a niche | 01:06 |
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| StyXman_ | most people jsut want a phone that works | 01:06 |
| dhbiker | heh | 01:06 |
| StyXman_ | I bricked mine 3 times in the fisrt week going to far modifying things to my needs | 01:06 |
| StyXman_ | too* | 01:07 |
| dhbiker | i'm working on a equalizer | 01:07 |
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| vizzy | ack, the boot video is annoying, i hate to hear that silly sound.... thats next i will do on my n900.... | 01:17 |
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| Macer | hm | 01:18 |
| Macer | how does u-boot work? | 01:18 |
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| Macer | is it like. n900 lilo/grub? | 01:18 |
| Macer | where it flashes a kernel on the fly and boots ? | 01:19 |
| Macer | i want to try nemo out | 01:19 |
| StyXman_ | Macer: it's cthulhu's bastard son | 01:19 |
| Macer | StyXman_: i wish i knew what that meant ;) | 01:20 |
| StyXman_ | Macer: nevermind | 01:21 |
| Macer | i wish i could get active on the n900 with the ability to use the phone heh | 01:21 |
| Macer | on my transformer too | 01:21 |
| Macer | i am waiting for good instructions on installing active on my transformer | 01:21 |
| StyXman_ | plasma active? | 01:22 |
| Macer | yes | 01:22 |
| Macer | it looks promising | 01:22 |
| Macer | i've always had a special place in my heart for kde | 01:22 |
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| StyXman_ | blej, bedtime | 01:24 |
| dhbiker | nn StyXman_ :P | 01:26 |
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| vizzy | hahahaha, cool, i just wnder why the statusbar menu from hildon is screwed up and has not enough space to show all entries....... | 01:59 |
| vizzy | i just mentioned its scrollable... omfg | 01:59 |
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| vizzy | someone here know ozymo.com? u see my n900 making connections to mail.ozymo.com ... i dont requested | 02:03 |
| vizzy | trojan? worm? | 02:03 |
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| vizzy | aloof_jezzster, please stop pm me | 02:09 |
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| vizzy | hmm, i see ozymo.com in an old irc log of maemo | 02:15 |
| vizzy | so, .... some coders are creating nice trojans mailing sensitive data? | 02:15 |
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| orbiting | is there a python 2.6 or 3 out there for maemo? | 02:20 |
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| merlin1991 | 2.6 is in the repos afaik | 02:21 |
| orbiting | thx | 02:21 |
| orbiting | i've got 2.5 on an n800 and n810 | 02:21 |
| orbiting | is that the community ssu? | 02:21 |
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| merlin1991 | lemme check | 02:26 |
| merlin1991 | orbiting: sry, it's actually only 2.5 | 02:27 |
| x29a | wasnt there a big discussion and a final "wont happen" somewhere in the forums? | 02:29 |
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| x29a | i remember https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4734 beeing somewhat involved | 02:30 |
| povbot | Bug 4734: lsb-core conflicts with python >= 2.6, blocking PyMaemo from upgrading to 2.6 | 02:30 |
| x29a | orbiting: please also see http://wiki.maemo.org/PyMaemo/Python_2.6_porting_guide | 02:31 |
| orbiting | thx! | 02:32 |
| Sazpaimon_ | so if anyone cares | 02:32 |
| Sazpaimon_ | maemo 5's libflashplayer.so works on the N9 | 02:32 |
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| mattcen | Hi all. I'm trying to hook my Apple Bluetooth keyboard up to my N900. I've re-enabled the 'input' profile for Bluetooth in /etc/bluetooth/main.conf, restarted BT, but when I try to connect, it succeeds, and then disconnects again. | 08:16 |
| mattcen | I'm having difficulty diagnosing it because I can't find any error output. Can anybody give me any advice? | 08:16 |
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| beford | http://wiki.maemo.org/Fremantle_Bluetooth_Keyboard_Layout | 08:33 |
| beford | did you follow this? | 08:33 |
| beford | and this http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=41845 | 08:36 |
| beford | people complain about being hard to pair, but after that it works | 08:36 |
| beford | you need also a custom kernel, or to install the apple keyb kernel module | 08:36 |
| mattcen | Hmm, thanks beford, I'll dig into those; I suspect your second link better explains where I'm getting stuck. | 08:40 |
| beford | if you have the stock kernel it will not work I believe | 08:40 |
| mattcen | beford: I've installed the kernel-power package and am using the CSSU. I'm not sure whether that kernel is suitable or whether extra stuff needs to be compiled into it though. | 08:41 |
| beford | I *think* its enough :) | 08:42 |
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| fabio_ | Good morning to all .. you know the path of these icons, I would like to change, thanks http://img807.imageshack.us/img807/6656/screenshot2012021303524.png | 09:59 |
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| Pali | ping X-Fade | 10:19 |
| Pali | ~seen X-Fade | 10:19 |
| infobot | x-fade is currently on #maemo #harmattan #meego, last said: 'Anyway, time to do some real work, later.'. | 10:19 |
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| nze | g'morning #maemo | 12:24 |
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| nze | i messed up my /home/user/.profile; when i reboot my n900 it gets stuck in a loop… any way i can recover it without flashing? | 12:26 |
| nze | i have a nitdroid install on my sd card, using multiboot. any way i could use that to access maemo's filesystem? or boot maemo into single user mode? | 12:27 |
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| Sicelo | for your first question: try RescueOS, by NIN101 | 12:34 |
| Sicelo | second question .. | 12:34 |
| Sicelo | ~nitdroid | 12:34 |
| infobot | [nitdroid] Nokia Internet Tablets with android OS. Support on nitdroid is provided in the channel #nitdroid and #nitdroid-help and Nokia does not officially support owners with android OS on their tablets. For more information read here: http://nitdroid.com/index.php?title=NITDroid_project. If you have bricked your N900 device and have installed nitdroid, flash with both eMMC and fiasco. | 12:34 |
| Sicelo | maybe someone else might help u with that | 12:35 |
| RST38h | Like someone at #nitdroid or #nitdroid-help ? | 12:35 |
| Sicelo | :) | 12:36 |
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| StyXman_ | nze: if you have BootMenu installed, you can boot with usb-net, ssh into it and fix your .profile | 12:43 |
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| Sicelo | hmm, u mean BackupMenu, i suppose | 12:44 |
| StyXman_ | Sicelo: it´s listed as BootMenu in the package manager | 12:44 |
| Sicelo | ok | 12:45 |
| StyXman_ | «Fanoush´s Boot Menu» | 12:45 |
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| nze | Sicelo: thanks, i'm looking into rescueOS, it might well be what i need; in the announcement thread on maemo.org someone mentioned that nitdroid could be used for the same purpose, but #nitdroid{,-help} are rather silent atm. maybe someone will answer a little later, i'll rather wait a little before rushing anything | 12:47 |
| StyXman_ | nze: it there´s a terminal in nidroid and you have root access, you should be able to mount your home and fix it too | 12:49 |
| nze | StyXman_: yea that'll be the first thing i'll install as soon as i get it working again -.- . my last full backup dates back ~2 weeks, but i'd still rather not lose the last 2 weeks of my conversations | 12:51 |
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| Sicelo | nze: rescueos doesn't need to be installed. nor does it affect your n900 in any adverse way, unless u mess up in the terminal :) | 12:54 |
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| Sicelo | http://216.189.8.164/N900/rescueOS/documentation.txt | 12:56 |
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| Sicelo | i hope u didn't think i was talking about MeeGo's initrd, with is a pita to work on | 12:57 |
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| nze | Sicelo: that's what i first came across when looking for n900 rescueOS (meego), but maemo.org was helpful. giving it a shot now, nitdroid feels too crippled (can't find the right device nodes, no fdisk/lsblk/blkid…) | 13:05 |
| Sicelo | kewl :) | 13:08 |
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| nze | meh... i have the flasher and the initfs, but where can i find a fitting kernel image? | 13:17 |
| Sicelo | http://216.189.8.164/N900/rescueOS/2.6.37 | 13:20 |
| Sicelo | read carefully the page .. especially remembering to use the -l option for flasher | 13:21 |
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| nze | got it running, but mass storage mode doesn't seem to work, i can't see anything new in /dev after enabling it | 13:46 |
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| nze | and mounting /dev/mmblk1p1 fails with an i/o error | 13:46 |
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| StyXman_ | nze: still around? | 16:23 |
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| Gear_ | wake up! | 16:27 |
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| _merlin1991 | anybody in here with a hetzner server? | 16:27 |
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| _merlin1991 | hetzner seems to have gone down though my quasselcore still lives :D | 16:28 |
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| Gear_ | what does that even mean | 16:28 |
| merlin1991 | ah wait seems they are back | 16:28 |
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| merlin1991 | why do I have a server in a datacenter when the whole company goes offline twice in one day | 16:29 |
| Gear_ | I have an n900 that's stuck in post somewhere | 16:29 |
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| Gear_ | but I wanna put the pwnie express image on it | 16:29 |
| Gear_ | anyone tried that? | 16:29 |
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| merlin1991 | pwnie express? | 16:30 |
| StyXman_ | Gear_: I which the N900 ould have POST... | 16:30 |
| StyXman_ | I wish* | 16:30 |
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| Gear_ | I mean I have my one I use as a phone, and there is another one which should arrive any day, which I want to use without a sim | 16:30 |
| Gear_ | for stuff. | 16:30 |
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| Gear_ | like neopwn if that ever gets released this year, but pwnie express because that phone image is already out | 16:31 |
| merlin1991 | Gear_: neopwn is dead | 16:31 |
| Gear_ | so it's not gonna be released for the n900? | 16:32 |
| merlin1991 | you're better off just installing the driver and all the tools from -devel | 16:32 |
| merlin1991 | afaik there is no development anymore | 16:32 |
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| Gear_ | that looked freakin awesome :( | 16:32 |
| Gear_ | I'm stuck with pwnie express then | 16:32 |
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| Gear_ | anyone used it? | 16:34 |
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| FIQ | http://communities-dominate.blogs.com/brands/2012/01/how-many-lumia-sales-as-nokia-and-microsoft-ashamed-to-reveal-number-lets-count-and-compare-to-n9-me.html | 18:43 |
| FIQ | interesting | 18:43 |
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| xmlich02 | hi i was trying to port my meego (qt-components based app) to maemo and i have problem with device orientation. In landscape mode application works well, but in portrait mode is visible only part of window and the cursor (touch) is gives also rotated response.. | 18:51 |
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| DocScrutinizer51 | xmlich02: rotation isn't genuinely supported on maemo fremantle | 19:35 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | xmlich02: /join #maemo-ssu | 19:36 |
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| DocScrutinizer51 | there's a whole bunch of devels obviously interested mainly in porting apps to portrait mode ;-D | 19:36 |
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| DocScrutinizer51 | also CSSU comes with some support for genuine portrait | 19:37 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | your app shouldn't do this locally | 19:37 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | also you app MUST NOT use direct accelerometer values to do roatation! | 19:38 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | ~2118 | 19:39 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | ~2119 | 19:39 |
| infobot | The key words "MUST", "MUST NOT", "REQUIRED", "SHALL", "SHALL NOT", "SHOULD", "SHOULD NOT", "RECOMMENDED", "MAY", and "OPTIONAL" in this document are to be interpreted as described in RFC 2119. | 19:39 |
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| nze | StyXman_: yea, still here (re) | 20:09 |
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| nze | Sicelo: rescueOS worked very well, got everything working again, with no reflash or data loss whatsoever! | 20:09 |
| nze | thanks guys | 20:09 |
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| Sicelo | thanks goes to NIN101 | 20:12 |
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| nze | true, didn't see he was lurking in the channel | 20:15 |
| StyXman_ | nze: heeh | 20:15 |
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| StyXman_ | nze: ah, good to hear | 20:15 |
| StyXman_ | dang, again? | 20:15 |
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| StyXman_ | is it me or this page is infested with spam? http://wiki.meego.com/ARM/N900 | 22:18 |
| StyXman_ | (completely off topic, I know) | 22:19 |
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