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| timeless_xchat | xfade. | 00:48 |
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| timeless_xchat | anyone here have a fremantle sdk handy? | 00:50 |
| chem|st | .oO(host is missing a PSU) nope sry | 00:50 |
| merlin1991 | timeless_xchat: yes I have :D | 00:51 |
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| merlin1991 | though it is polluted with cssu packages :D | 00:51 |
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| timeless_xchat | could i get you to build a package for me? | 00:53 |
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| timeless_xchat | http://bluevandevelopment.com/blog/2011/02/03/xchat-sasl-and-gcc-on-the-n900/ | 00:53 |
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| timeless_xchat | one big change though | 00:55 |
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| timeless_xchat | where it says: nano cap_sasl.c | 00:55 |
| timeless_xchat | don't | 00:55 |
| timeless_xchat | just create a file next to that file | 00:55 |
| timeless_xchat | mkdir xchat ; echo '#include <xchat-plugin.h>' > xchat/xchat-plugin.h | 00:56 |
| timeless_xchat | not sure if that'll work, but it's worth trying | 00:56 |
| timeless_xchat | if it doesn't, then: | 00:56 |
| timeless_xchat | ln -s . xchat ; ln -s $(find /usr/include -name xchat-plugin.h) . | 00:57 |
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| timeless_xchat | ... the goal is to create a vaguely valid .deb package that we could submit to a builder | 00:57 |
| timeless_xchat | but w/o me getting an sdk :) | 00:58 |
| timeless_xchat | thanks in advance | 00:58 |
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| Jartza | ShadowJK: yes, I did complain. | 01:03 |
| Jartza | I'm waiting for an answer still | 01:04 |
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| javispedro | timeless_xchat: the xchat package in fremantle doesn't seem to provide xchat-plugin | 01:19 |
| javispedro | xchat-plugin.h | 01:20 |
| merlin1991 | timeless_xchat: will do | 01:23 |
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| valerius | hi ppl | 01:38 |
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| * valerius installed scratchbox and trying to compile a toolchain in it. configure has created a.out and tried to execute it. And it tries to load ld-linux.so.3 which is missing /lib is empty at all. From where I can install it? | 01:42 | |
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| valerius | And strange, apt-get is present but /etc/apt is missing... | 01:44 |
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| badcloud_ | hey guys. is there some way to open link in background window in the web browser? | 02:22 |
| ShadowJK | closest thing is open in new window | 02:26 |
| ShadowJK | then you have to manually switch back | 02:26 |
| badcloud_ | ShadowJK: nuts | 02:27 |
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| merlin1991 | timeless_xchat: I just found a few mins to look into that stuff, so you suggest we create a source package where someone just has to throw the login line there compile and is all ready? | 03:46 |
| timeless_xchat | ideally we create a source package | 03:56 |
| timeless_xchat | send it to the builder | 03:56 |
| timeless_xchat | people install package | 03:56 |
| timeless_xchat | and they use the login line | 03:57 |
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| timeless_xchat | merlin1991: assuming i read things correctly | 03:57 |
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| Macer | damn. windows media center isn't too bad | 04:45 |
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| internetishard | When I try to save something in Notes it defaultly goes to /n900/Documents | 05:36 |
| internetishard | when I browse to /home/user/MyDocs/Documents the directory doesn't exist! | 05:37 |
| internetishard | what's the deal? | 05:37 |
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| robbiethe1st | internetishard, it's actually /home/user/MyDocs/.documents | 05:41 |
| internetishard | wow, wtf | 05:41 |
| robbiethe1st | See: Nokia Weirdness | 05:42 |
| internetishard | sweet. I looked into it because notes stopped saving files to there | 05:42 |
| internetishard | It says read only everytime | 05:42 |
| internetishard | why is .documents read only, but the subdirs arent? | 05:43 |
| internetishard | This happened out of nowhere | 05:43 |
| robbiethe1st | Dunno | 05:43 |
| robbiethe1st | Check permissions. | 05:43 |
| robbiethe1st | i.e. ls -al *path* | 05:44 |
| internetishard | everything is -rw-r--r-- | 05:44 |
| robbiethe1st | Who's the owner? | 05:44 |
| internetishard | and . is drwxrwxrwx | 05:45 |
| internetishard | root | 05:45 |
| robbiethe1st | And the folders inside? | 05:45 |
| internetishard | But I tried to touch a file as root | 05:45 |
| robbiethe1st | Also, type 'mount' and check to make sure there is an entry for /home/user/MyDocs | 05:45 |
| internetishard | same | 05:46 |
| robbiethe1st | See last comment | 05:47 |
| internetishard | ah, that's mounted? | 05:47 |
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| robbiethe1st | MyDocs is a different partition than the rest | 05:48 |
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| robbiethe1st | It's the 28GB or so fat32 partition that you see when you hook up to usb | 05:48 |
| robbiethe1st | /home/user, on the other hand, is on a 2GB ext3 partition | 05:48 |
| internetishard | ah it says /dev/mmblk0p1 on /home/user/MyDocs type vfat | 05:49 |
| robbiethe1st | If, for some reason, the MyDocs partition wasn't mounted, your files would disappear | 05:49 |
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| robbiethe1st | Ok, then it *is* mounted. | 05:49 |
| internetishard | yeah, MyDocs is fine | 05:49 |
| internetishard | the weirdness starts at .documents | 05:49 |
| robbiethe1st | Odd | 05:50 |
| internetishard | def. | 05:50 |
| robbiethe1st | Try unmounting it and running fsck | 05:50 |
| robbiethe1st | google for instructions | 05:50 |
| internetishard | umount /media/home/user/MyDocs && fsck /dev/whatever, eh? | 05:51 |
| robbiethe1st | More or less | 05:51 |
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| internetishard | why do they need such long/complex volume names? | 05:52 |
| internetishard | use sda!? | 05:52 |
| internetishard | nice, it found an error | 05:53 |
| internetishard | I'm guessing I can blindly select "fix it"? | 05:53 |
| robbiethe1st | Hopefully | 05:54 |
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| internetishard | this all might have happened when I dropped it in the toilet | 05:55 |
| internetishard | there are a lot of these | 05:55 |
| internetishard | how can I select 1 for all? | 05:55 |
| robbiethe1st | No clu | 05:57 |
| internetishard | there are shit loads of long garbled file names that its reporting | 05:58 |
| internetishard | I'm selecting 3: truncate checksum | 05:58 |
| internetishard | and 1: fix, for the rest | 05:58 |
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| internetishard | wholy christ there are thousands. I just use the -a so it'd auto doing it..... still going | 06:07 |
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| internetishard | It's on the 6,000th one | 06:07 |
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| robbiethe1st | Evidently, things are corrupt. And may be made worse | 06:10 |
| robbiethe1st | Hopefully you have backups | 06:10 |
| internetishard | 10k... | 06:11 |
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| internetishard | I hope the backup app covers all of these files | 06:11 |
| internetishard | That's what I've used for my backups so far | 06:11 |
| internetishard | I did all 4 checkboxes... But it didn't specifically list the dirs where I save stuf | 06:11 |
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| psycho_oreos | any of you guys tried JP regdom? | 10:54 |
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| arnet | anybody remember old good OS2008? | 11:02 |
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| arnet | On my n810 wimax editin I cannot get small onscreen keyboard, only the bii one shows up | 11:04 |
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| psycho_oreos | mm I don't have N810 but could it be because you installed international input (such as SCIM for instance) may have broken the vkbd? | 11:10 |
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| arnet | hmmm. will check, but I did't | 11:10 |
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| psycho_oreos | if not then try tracing back what you did last before you broke it.. I do know installing for instance mscim/qimsys on N900 breaks the vkbd.. so does portrait keyboard such as T9 for instance | 11:11 |
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| arnet | cause from the beginning when I used N810 only small keyboard were coming, and with N810W snly the big one shows up | 11:12 |
| arnet | Which is a right way to invoke one or other keyboard? | 11:12 |
| psycho_oreos | that I wouldn't know personally :| have you tried tmo? | 11:13 |
| arnet | not yet | 11:14 |
| psycho_oreos | I'd give that a shot as maybe more N8x0 owners may lurk on there more than here :).. it also seems to be a quiet time of the day too (for IRC) | 11:15 |
| arnet | I think I just dont know the right ay to change keyboard size | 11:15 |
| jaska | *shrug* never use vkbd on my n810 | 11:15 |
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| ShadowJK | arnet; iirc it's in settings | 11:49 |
| ShadowJK | the defaults are stylus keyboard if you tap with stylus, and finger keyboard (big) if you tap with thumb. | 11:50 |
| ShadowJK | the detection stylus/finger only worked first day for me though | 11:50 |
| ShadowJK | Jartza; what was wrong with your N900? | 11:51 |
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| * ruskie is still happy to say he never saw the on screen keyboard on the N900 | 11:53 | |
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| psycho_oreos | heh with N9 you have no choice but to use vkbd :D | 11:56 |
| jaska | which is why i will never have a n9 :) | 11:57 |
| psycho_oreos | I've been trying to convince myself that I'll never will want a N9.. truth be told that no matter how hard I try to ignore the N9, its still there in the brochures mocking me psychologically | 12:00 |
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| Chiku | hum gps not working :( someone got some problem ? | 12:06 |
| ShadowJK | it was working yesterday for me | 12:07 |
| Chiku | N900 ? | 12:07 |
| psycho_oreos | change your SUPL server to google instead of nokia | 12:08 |
| Chiku | so supl.google.com ? | 12:10 |
| jiero | psycho_oreos: will you attend the barcamp tomorrow? | 12:10 |
| jiero | lol | 12:11 |
| jiero | soz... | 12:11 |
| jiero | i got wrong person | 12:11 |
| psycho_oreos | Chiku, yes | 12:11 |
| Chiku | thank psycho_oreos | 12:14 |
| Chiku | do you use ovi maps ? | 12:14 |
| Chiku | hum I don't see the red dot on ovi maps | 12:14 |
| psycho_oreos | Chiku, every now and then, my ovi maps setup is screwed up right now however | 12:15 |
| Chiku | what happened to supl.nokia.com ? | 12:15 |
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| psycho_oreos | its not reliable, period | 12:17 |
| psycho_oreos | and this isn't official nokia support, if you want official nokia support you might want to try their own forums... something like nokia forums or whatever | 12:18 |
| ShadowJK | it was working without supl, at all, yesterday for me | 12:20 |
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| chem|st | Chiku: you are better off with something like mappero | 12:22 |
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| chem|st | ShadowJK: back when all where complaining I had to say WFM, it did get a fix within minutes without network and in seconds with... | 12:23 |
| chem|st | Chiku: change the supl if it need be | 12:24 |
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| Chiku | ok let's try it | 12:24 |
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| Chiku | without gps hardware ? how does it work? | 12:25 |
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| psycho_oreos | it has its own internal GPS | 12:25 |
| psycho_oreos | I can tell you without internal GPS being used to get the initial lock, there's almost zero chance of getting a lock under a roof of a solid house with no wifi, GSM or bluetooth connectivity | 12:26 |
| psycho_oreos | now it probably wouldn't even matter if you changed the SUPL server back to nokia after getting the initial lock with google | 12:26 |
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| chem|st | psycho_oreos: it doesn't matter | 12:28 |
| chem|st | once you got a fix you got the right caches | 12:29 |
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| psycho_oreos | chem|st, *sigh* and my point was? | 12:29 |
| chem|st | problem here on 3G is, the antenna is 300km away in supl.nokia.com^^ | 12:30 |
| psycho_oreos | <psycho_oreos> now it probably wouldn't even matter if you changed the SUPL server back to nokia after getting the initial lock with google | 12:30 |
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| chem|st | psycho_oreos: read again ;) "probably wouldn't even matter" and "doesn't matter" | 12:31 |
| chem|st | I was confirming your idea | 12:31 |
| psycho_oreos | chem|st, more like you were initially disagreeing but whatever | 12:31 |
| chem|st | I shoudl have written a proper sentence sry | 12:32 |
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| dangergrrl | the drivers from madde do not work for usbnet in win7 :( | 12:34 |
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| dangergrrl | (for me) | 12:34 |
| psycho_oreos | ... so use linux under vm.. win! | 12:34 |
| dangergrrl | i'll have a "real" usb wifi in a couple of days | 12:35 |
| dangergrrl | but needless to say, in the meantime linux is much more fun than win since my nets work | 12:36 |
| Jartza | ShadowJK: the usb plug came out, the usual :) | 12:36 |
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| dangergrrl | ua there a remedy for worn out usb plug on n900? | 12:36 |
| dangergrrl | is | 12:37 |
| dangergrrl | i have to wrap the usb cable around it to get contact | 12:37 |
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| psycho_oreos | yeah, get it re-soldered before it actually falls out | 12:38 |
| chem|st | I am not really gentle with my device and have no problems... what are you guys doing with your usb cords while plugged in? | 12:38 |
| chem|st | hunt down cattle? | 12:39 |
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| dangergrrl | i am using my n900 as a router | 12:39 |
| Sicelo | lol chem|st :P | 12:39 |
| chem|st | so it is laying untouched somewhere? | 12:39 |
| dangergrrl | hardly | 12:40 |
| chem|st | elab. | 12:40 |
| dangergrrl | i have to poke on it pretty often to check if the wifi came up, crappy motel wifi | 12:40 |
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| jiero | dangergrrl: how? using usb hotspot the application? | 12:41 |
| Gh0sty | dangergrrl: you use it as wifi router? | 12:41 |
| chem|st | so what? my device is hanging off my desk while charging... | 12:41 |
| Gh0sty | or just use it over usb? | 12:41 |
| dangergrrl | use it as usb<->wifi router | 12:41 |
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| Gh0sty | I usually connect it to my laptop over usb and route 3g like that :P | 12:41 |
| dangergrrl | it works | 12:41 |
| dangergrrl | kinda | 12:41 |
| dangergrrl | no gsm signal where i live | 12:42 |
| chem|st | dangergrrl: usb - wifi? are you seriouse?! | 12:42 |
| jiero | chem|st: yeah | 12:42 |
| Gh0sty | you live in the middle of nowhere :P | 12:42 |
| Gh0sty | chem|st: why not? :/ | 12:42 |
| jiero | chem|st: people do that, but I never success | 12:42 |
| dangergrrl | my site is upgrading to a T1 in a couple of weeks | 12:42 |
| Gh0sty | did it too like I said: connect to 3G with my n900 and connect it as network device over usb to my laptop | 12:42 |
| ShadowJK | I suspect the usb detaches sooner if you always unplug/plug it at an angle, or move it left/right or up/down when unplugging instead of straight out and in | 12:42 |
| Gh0sty | setup ip forwarding and done :) | 12:42 |
| chem|st | Gh0sty: all devices I hav which need internet have wifi or are that heavy that I do not take them with me in a motel | 12:42 |
| dangergrrl | i think we are stuck with carrier pigeons until then | 12:43 |
| dangergrrl | this device is quite heavy | 12:44 |
| psycho_oreos | if the N900 was dropped onto a relatively hard surface whilst the USB plug is plugged in and it happens to hit on the connector bit, it can either break or weaken the connectors | 12:44 |
| dangergrrl | full tower pc | 12:44 |
| chem|st | "this device"? | 12:44 |
| dangergrrl | i live in the motel | 12:44 |
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| Gh0sty | woow living in a motel :o | 12:44 |
| chem|st | ah | 12:45 |
| chem|st | that explains | 12:45 |
| chem|st | how about a $5 usb wifi? | 12:45 |
| dangergrrl | $750/mo pays all bills | 12:45 |
| dangergrrl | i ordered the $40 alfa 2000mw one | 12:46 |
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| dangergrrl | be here by wednesday | 12:46 |
| * ShadowJK used to rent a singleroom(+bath) for $250 a month, electricity,heat,water included | 12:46 | |
| dangergrrl | 9dbi antenna | 12:46 |
| chem|st | 2000mw?! with that power I could support wifi to ahlf of my city.... | 12:46 |
| dangergrrl | ShadowJK, not in boulder county coloradp :P | 12:46 |
| psycho_oreos | that's the theoretical maximum TX power | 12:47 |
| ShadowJK | chem|st; only if you could hear the distant stations | 12:47 |
| dangergrrl | -p+o | 12:47 |
| chem|st | ShadowJK: well would use the highest building and put it on top... | 12:47 |
| psycho_oreos | alfa devices are not fitted with preamp RX, only for TX are they fitted with a preamp | 12:47 |
| dangergrrl | it is really pretty here | 12:47 |
| dangergrrl | http://stonemountainlodge.com/ | 12:48 |
| dangergrrl | but it's a tiny place in the edge of the mountains | 12:49 |
| dangergrrl | psycho_oreos, has to have more power than i am getting with the n900 | 12:49 |
| dangergrrl | i have to check for sunspot activity before i go online now | 12:50 |
| psycho_oreos | dangergrrl, in theory it probably would but its not like you can make full use of the TX power if your windows has those stupid regulatory settings enforcd | 12:50 |
| psycho_oreos | s/enforcd/enforced/ | 12:50 |
| infobot | psycho_oreos meant: dangergrrl, in theory it probably would but its not like you can make full use of the TX power if your windows has those stupid regulatory settings enforced | 12:50 |
| psycho_oreos | and again you can't really compare a directional wireless setup with an omni directional antenna setup.. it really varies A LOT | 12:51 |
| dangergrrl | so, could i run gentoo on my n900? :P | 12:53 |
| ShadowJK | luke does it | 12:53 |
| dangergrrl | it is a lark btw | 12:53 |
| psycho_oreos | there's another bloke that runs gentoo on N900 as well, I can't quite remember his handle, definitely starts with s | 12:53 |
| psycho_oreos | slonopotamus or something | 12:54 |
| dangergrrl | anyhow getting some connectivity in windows will be a plus, uninterrupted nets in linux would be win | 12:54 |
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| psycho_oreos | for the latter part, it might be theoretically possible with some scripts being placed on crontab | 12:56 |
| Gh0sty | woow $750 or $250 is cheap | 12:57 |
| jiero | why not...just why the Raspberry Pi run everything, 1080P... want to make netbook on it. | 12:57 |
| Gh0sty | I pay 700 eur! :( | 12:57 |
| jiero | Even Gamemaker is porting their platform for Raspberry Pi... | 12:58 |
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| dangergrrl | Gh0sty, i just have a small room in the colorado foothills | 13:00 |
| dangergrrl | closest town is 2 miles, population 2000 including me | 13:01 |
| mihu | Hi. I'm playing around with a spare N900. I am logged in via ssh and sometimes when I shut down system services etc. it happens that the device reboots. Where is that watchdog functionality implemented and how can I keep the N900 from resetting? | 13:02 |
| ShadowJK | dsme | 13:02 |
| * Gh0sty google maps colorado foothills | 13:03 | |
| ShadowJK | there's also a hardware watchdog, which hard resets device if software stops poking it | 13:03 |
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| mihu | ShadowJK: That means if I disable the service via dsmetool then it should be safe and no reboot should happen, right? Which software is poking the hardware watchdog? | 13:03 |
| dangergrrl | Gh0sty, i am on the funtoo usermap | 13:04 |
| ShadowJK | in Diablo it was called kicker | 13:04 |
| ShadowJK | not sure about fremantle | 13:04 |
| dangergrrl | i think within like 50ft | 13:04 |
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| mihu | ShadowJK: Ideally, I want to shutdown the whole graphical user interface. | 13:05 |
| dangergrrl | you know the n900 reboots at random when used as a router :( | 13:05 |
| * ShadowJK vaguely remembers mobile hotspot people encountered a few kernel oops | 13:06 | |
| psycho_oreos | its not a true wifi hotspot mode, its more like adhoc | 13:07 |
| ShadowJK | sure | 13:07 |
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| Gh0sty | cool between the mountains :) | 13:07 |
| Gh0sty | looking with google streetview I see here a sign "Stone mountain" | 13:08 |
| dangergrrl | it's amazingly beautiful when there is snow in the morning | 13:13 |
| MohammadAG | <mihu> ShadowJK: That means if I disable the service via dsmetool then it should be safe and no reboot should happen, right? Which software is poking the hardware watchdog? | 13:14 |
| MohammadAG | yes | 13:14 |
| MohammadAG | dsmetool requests the reboot | 13:14 |
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| Gh0sty | dangergrrl: is it possible to ski there? :p | 13:15 |
| Gh0sty | not a big fan of snow though :) | 13:16 |
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| Gh0sty | to look at ... yes | 13:16 |
| Gh0sty | to go to work through it ... no :P | 13:16 |
| mihu | MohammadAG: Thanks. Is there a way to disable dsmetool or the daemon in the background completely? | 13:16 |
| dangergrrl | right here? probably not, a few hundred feet up, yes | 13:16 |
| dangergrrl | we don't get much snow, ot is high plains desert | 13:17 |
| MohammadAG | R&D mode | 13:17 |
| MohammadAG | flasher-3.5 --enable-rd-mode --set-rd-flags=no-lifeguard-reset | 13:17 |
| Gh0sty | whats temperatures there like right now? | 13:17 |
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| Gh0sty | (i have no idea about climate in the US) | 13:17 |
| dangergrrl | the deep snow is in oregon and washington | 13:18 |
| Gh0sty | yeah heard about that | 13:19 |
| Gh0sty | probably have to go for work in the surroundings of washington in jan / feb | 13:19 |
| Gh0sty | that'll be fun ... :p | 13:19 |
| dangergrrl | redmond is cool and damp then | 13:20 |
| dangergrrl | like 5C and rain | 13:20 |
| Gh0sty | only been once to the us ... NY and boston end of may | 13:20 |
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| Gh0sty | was pretty nice, not too hot | 13:20 |
| mihu | MohammadAG: Thanks. I found http://wiki.maemo.org/R%26D_mode which explains this nicely as well. Ultimately, I want to hook some custom hardware the uSD slot of the N900. For development purposes, I want to unmount /home. Otherwise I cannot enable MMC debugging in the kernel because every access to /home will flood my debug output. Do you think this is achievable? | 13:21 |
| MohammadAG | I'm not sure if you can do that | 13:21 |
| MohammadAG | /opt lives under /home | 13:22 |
| MohammadAG | that has system themes/fonts etc | 13:22 |
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| MohammadAG | you can probably edit the rootfs.jffs2 image to remove the script that moves items from / to /opt on first boot | 13:23 |
| MohammadAG | then reflash that image | 13:23 |
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| MohammadAG | and then you can probably unmount /home | 13:23 |
| dangergrrl | can you lock things in RAM and guarantee hard real time? | 13:23 |
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| MohammadAG | or just force umount and hope for the best | 13:23 |
| MohammadAG | I forced a unmount of / once | 13:24 |
| MohammadAG | system worked well till I closed an app | 13:24 |
| mihu | MohammadAG: With "first boot" do you mean reboot or really the first boot of a fresh system? | 13:24 |
| MohammadAG | latter | 13:24 |
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| MohammadAG | from PR1.2 onwards, there's a script that moves and symlinks system files | 13:25 |
| psycho_oreos | optification? | 13:25 |
| MohammadAG | maemo-optify-runounce is the name I think | 13:26 |
| MohammadAG | lemme check | 13:26 |
| mihu | Or can I just move back /home/opt/ to / now? | 13:26 |
| MohammadAG | well, yeah, you can probably do tha | 13:27 |
| MohammadAG | sec | 13:27 |
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| MohammadAG | http://maemo.gitorious.org/maemo-af/maemo-optify-boottime/blobs/501fbd29545a41d9e89e7728474c8e19994db4ed/maemo-optify-runonce.sh | 13:28 |
| MohammadAG | that's the script | 13:28 |
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| mihu | MohammadAG: Hm, these Qt libraries in /opt/lib are huge. | 13:33 |
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| MohammadAG | ask yourself | 13:34 |
| MohammadAG | do you need Qt libraries while debugging? | 13:34 |
| mihu | MohammadAG: Will a stock PR1.3 system come up without them? | 13:34 |
| psycho_oreos | any of you guys played with JP regdom? | 13:35 |
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| mihu | MohammadAG: Perhaps it's easier if I just compile in g_ether into the kernel and then let the device boot from a NFS root. | 13:39 |
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| MohammadAG | mihu, yes, it should | 13:44 |
| MohammadAG | Qt libraries aren't used in the main UI framework or during boot up | 13:44 |
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| Sicelo | no. not them.. works | 13:45 |
| Sicelo | hmm, wrong window. apologies | 13:45 |
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| mihu | MohammadAG: I don't want to change the system too much, because after initial bring-up, I want to go back to it. So I will try rootfs via NFS first. | 13:50 |
| vi_ | psycho_oreos: it is not real JP REG DOM...no channel 14. | 13:53 |
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| psycho_oreos | vi_, and heh it seems to make my N900 reboot when associated to my AP for a few moments | 13:57 |
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| vi_ | psycho_oreos: just set it to europran reg dom. It is the same. | 14:05 |
| vi_ | ^european | 14:05 |
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| psycho_oreos | vi_, yeah its set to EU by default | 14:06 |
| psycho_oreos | I was merely testing JP for curious purposes | 14:07 |
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| vi__ | on most AP it allows use of channel 14. JP being the only country in the world to allow it. | 14:08 |
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| vi__ | The benefit of 14 is it is a whole 2 channel widths away from 13 (instead of the usual 1) meaning there is less interferance from neighbouring channels. | 14:09 |
| psycho_oreos | you meant they forbade the use of channel 14 :) | 14:09 |
| psycho_oreos | well JP does allow the use of channel 14, which is true, but yes I was tinkering around with regdom following knownokia.ca site | 14:10 |
| vi__ | also people outside JP generally dont have it in use meaning you have a whole channel to yourself with no side interferance. | 14:10 |
| vi__ | ah, hawaii's blog | 14:10 |
| vi__ | there is some good shit on there. | 14:10 |
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| psycho_oreos | yup :) | 14:11 |
| psycho_oreos | hawaii's blog? I didn't know that belonged to him | 14:11 |
| ShadowJK | i thought even in jp, only 11b was allowed on 14 | 14:12 |
| vi__ | ShadowJK: perhaps. | 14:12 |
| vi__ | ShadowJK: perhaps that is why only upto 13 is available on n900 with jp reg dom. | 14:13 |
| vi__ | as it is in mixed mode by default. | 14:13 |
| vi__ | we need somone to investigate... | 14:13 |
| vi__ | psycho_oreos: I choose you! | 14:13 |
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| psycho_oreos | lol why me? :þ I got enough projects as it is | 14:15 |
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| vi__ | I was only choosing. like a blastoise. | 14:17 |
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| mihu | MohammadAG: Do you know what the sti-console flag does in R&D mode? I could not find an explanation. | 14:43 |
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| MohammadAG | mihu, serial console | 14:54 |
| mihu | MohammadAG: there is another flag called serial-console. Do you know the difference? | 14:54 |
| mihu | MohammadAG: I want to connect to the serial port below the battery. | 14:55 |
| MohammadAG | hmm, no idea then | 14:56 |
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| MohammadAG | ask jacekowski | 14:56 |
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| mihu | MohammadAG: Ok, thanks. Not so important now. Hm, my system keeps bind-mounting /home/opt/ to /opt. fstab is "autogenerated". Do you know how the bind-mounting is done on boot and where? I haven't found it yet. | 15:18 |
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| MohammadAG | any reversing experts? | 15:20 |
| MohammadAG | mihu, check /etc/rcS* | 15:20 |
| MohammadAG | I have a wireshark capture | 15:20 |
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| MohammadAG | of whatsapp logging in, not sure I can figure it all out | 15:20 |
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| jonwil | I think it would be easier to reverse engineer the binary than to try and figure it out from the network protocol | 15:21 |
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| mihu | MohammadAG: Found it. It wasn't in /etc/rcS, but /usr/lib/genfstab.awk creates it. | 15:22 |
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| MohammadAG | jonwil, want the binary? :P | 15:22 |
| jonwil | for which platform? I think the Android APK is the easiest to reverse engineer | 15:22 |
| MohammadAG | I have that | 15:23 |
| MohammadAG | but the .java files are compiled into dex(?) | 15:23 |
| jonwil | there are decompilers for that | 15:24 |
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| jonwil | currently running the apk file from their website through http://www.apkdecompile.com/ | 15:26 |
| jonwil | see what comes out | 15:26 |
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| jonwil | if only there was an easy way to figure out the encrypted osso-backup format... | 15:28 |
| MohammadAG | cool | 15:29 |
| MohammadAG | the only thing I know is usernames are phonenumber@whatsapp.com | 15:29 |
| MohammadAG | mine is 97254.......@whatsapp.com | 15:29 |
| jonwil | ok, its decompiled | 15:30 |
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| jonwil | hmmm, its too obfusicated to be of help | 15:33 |
| jonwil | which is what I suspected | 15:33 |
| chem|st | are you guys trying to get msg to whatsapp from outside or implement a client for maemo? | 15:35 |
| chem|st | the license note keeps me telling people to not use it | 15:36 |
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| badcloud_ | hey guys. anyone know where flash vids reside on rootfs when being played via MicroB? I looked in /tmp and 'ps aux|grep flash' ('/proc/#/fd/Flashxx' trick) and both came up empty | 16:08 |
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| MohammadAG | jonwil, so? :P | 16:17 |
| MohammadAG | want the iOS binary? | 16:17 |
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| jonwil | noper | 16:21 |
| jonwil | that wont help | 16:21 |
| jonwil | I know nothing about ios | 16:21 |
| MohammadAG | it's OBJ-C | 16:22 |
| jonwil | I know nothing about objective C either | 16:22 |
| MohammadAG | it's a superset of C | 16:22 |
| jonwil | None of the tools I have are any use at reverse engineering IOS binaries | 16:22 |
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| jonwil | and I have no real interest in that WhatsApp crap anyway :P | 16:24 |
| MohammadAG | XMPP/AsyncSocket.m | 16:24 |
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| MohammadAG | XMPP/XMPPConnection.m | 16:25 |
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| MohammadAG | XMPP/XMPPDigestAuthentication.m | 16:26 |
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| MohammadAG | I just need the password | 16:32 |
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| MohammadAG | gonna try looking at the android config/data files | 16:32 |
| jonwil | Might have another crack at the osso-backup format | 16:32 |
| merlin1991 | okay odd situatuation, my sister claims her n900 suddenly started to ask for lock code, best way to recover? | 16:32 |
| MohammadAG | suddenly? | 16:33 |
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| MohammadAG | like, when she's using it it asks for a lock code, or was the code request interval set to off and it still asked for a lock code? | 16:33 |
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| merlin1991 | as in there never was a lockcode, she laid it aside and when unlocking the screen as usually it asked for one | 16:34 |
| MohammadAG | if it's the former, it's probably mce segfaulting/restarting for some reason | 16:34 |
| MohammadAG | ask her if the keyboard lights flicker right before it asks for the code | 16:34 |
| MohammadAG | 12345? | 16:34 |
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| MohammadAG | does it have ssh? if so, fire an unlock signal | 16:34 |
| merlin1991 | afaik it doesn't | 16:35 |
| merlin1991 | what would the unlock signal be? oO | 16:35 |
| MohammadAG | some dbus line | 16:35 |
| MohammadAG | sec | 16:35 |
| MohammadAG | dbus-send --print-reply --system --type=method_call --dest=com.nokia.system_ui /com/nokia/system_ui/request com.nokia.system_ui.request.devlock_close string:'com.nokia.mce' string:'/com/nokia/mce/request' string:'com.nokia.mce.request' string:'devlock_callback' uint32:'0' | 16:36 |
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| MohammadAG | the reason Aegis's mce::devLock cap is denied | 16:36 |
| ketas | damn i want n900 myself | 16:37 |
| merlin1991 | well no ssh, and 12345 isn't working either | 16:37 |
| MohammadAG | string the mtd block? | 16:37 |
| merlin1991 | yep, but how? | 16:37 |
| merlin1991 | since it ofc asks for lock code on bootup | 16:38 |
| MohammadAG | MeeGo rescue initrd | 16:38 |
| merlin1991 | okay | 16:38 |
| merlin1991 | this is going to be fun :D | 16:38 |
| MohammadAG | just an FYI | 16:38 |
| MohammadAG | make sure there's no ssh | 16:38 |
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| MohammadAG | since once you reboot, you're not going to have wifi | 16:38 |
| merlin1991 | don't have wifi anyway | 16:38 |
| merlin1991 | :D | 16:38 |
| MohammadAG | lol | 16:38 |
| MohammadAG | oh and another thing | 16:38 |
| MohammadAG | if you can get hildon-desktop to crash the lock code dialog won't be modal anymore | 16:39 |
| merlin1991 | router here sucks ass, so need to disable power save in order to have proper wireless | 16:39 |
| merlin1991 | so don't have it on autoconnect | 16:39 |
| merlin1991 | well I'll have to try the meego rescue initrd | 16:39 |
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| MohammadAG | if that doesn't work meego will for sure | 16:42 |
| MohammadAG | just hope the cal parition isn't corrupt | 16:42 |
| javispedro | is there a fiasco for the latest n900 pr btw? | 16:43 |
| Macer | does meego work on an n900 | 16:44 |
| MohammadAG | javispedro, yes, on navifirm | 16:45 |
| javispedro | hrmpf | 16:45 |
| MohammadAG | I'm not sure if X-Fade can add it under tablets-dev | 16:45 |
| merlin1991 | javispedro: why do you need a fiasco for the latest n900pr? | 16:45 |
| merlin1991 | it's 4 packages to update | 16:45 |
| merlin1991 | like 5 mb or something | 16:45 |
| javispedro | fiasco images are prelinked | 16:46 |
| javispedro | (or at least, that's what they told me...) | 16:46 |
| merlin1991 | "prelinked" ? | 16:46 |
| javispedro | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prelink | 16:46 |
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| MohammadAG | so you'll have the maemo certificates applet start faster, big whoop :p | 16:49 |
| javispedro | note that at most it will provide a subsecond enhacement on a very limited set of binaries, so it's not usually worth it, but since I'm reflashing | 16:49 |
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| javispedro | MohammadAG: and the browser! =) | 16:49 |
| MohammadAG | why? | 16:49 |
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| javispedro | it probably links with certman | 16:50 |
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| MohammadAG | nah | 16:52 |
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| mihu | MohammadAG: Finally I was successful. I moved /home/opt to /opt2 and /home/user to /home2/user and mount-binded these together. After modifying usr/lib/genfstab.awk and especially /etc/event.d/rcS-late, all partitions from eMMC can be unmounted after boot. The MMC driver and subsystem can be unloaded. Thank you very much for your help. | 16:57 |
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| MohammadAG | mihu, you're welcome :D | 17:06 |
| MohammadAG | jonwil, phonenumber@s.whatsapp.com | 17:07 |
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| timeless_xchat | hi merlin1991 | 17:18 |
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| merlin1991 | timeless_xchat: I'll look into it today | 17:26 |
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| uros1 | after update speedpatch and battery patch today i was unable to change clock of CPU locked on 500 mhz. Any fix | 17:45 |
| uros1 | please | 17:45 |
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| DocScrutinizer51 | timeless_xchat: long time no see | 18:28 |
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| badcloud_ | hey guys | 18:45 |
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| badcloud_ | broken record here, anyone know where flash files are hidden on rootfs while being played by MicroB? | 18:46 |
| javispedro | funny, the n950 never showed the name of my carrier, but the n900 does | 18:47 |
| javispedro | (both showed the name of my old carrier) | 18:47 |
| javispedro | ah... so nice to use a resistive screen again | 18:47 |
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| javispedro | cannot really believe that on the n900 ovi store the word "beta" still appears. | 18:58 |
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| MohammadAG | poor javispedro | 19:12 |
| MohammadAG | Harmattan withdrawal symptoms, they caused me to buy an iDevice, or two | 19:12 |
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| scoobertron | Can I change the outline/border color of desktop command execution widgets? I have noticed that it changes as I change the theme, but I am not sure how to change it on its own. | 19:58 |
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| DocScrutinizer | ([2011-12-09 16:45:11] <uros1> after update speedpatch and battery patch today...) aren't that those considered-placebo-with-a-bit-of-toxic-shit voodoo-based N900 "improvement" packages? | 20:16 |
| uros1 | DocScrutinizer: :) | 20:18 |
| uros1 | placebo? nice definition | 20:19 |
| DocScrutinizer | well, I tried hard not to sound too offensive | 20:19 |
| DocScrutinizer | my private definition of those is using more harsh terms | 20:20 |
| uros1 | well this is new light on this issue | 20:20 |
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| uros1 | A music messaging session has been requested. Please click the MM icon to accept. | 20:22 |
| DocScrutinizer | scoobertron: not sure about dcew, but in queenBeecon you can configure each single pixel, for each minute of the day ;-D | 20:22 |
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| redeeman | is there an easy way to read out detailed call log? | 21:30 |
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| jiero | Seriously, Web OS is going to be Open Source Community project! http://www.hp.com/hpinfo/newsroom/press/2011/111209xa.html? | 21:45 |
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| wh86 | hello everyone! greetings from brasil | 22:29 |
| wh86 | i'm new with my n900 but i saw a thousand good stuffs to do with it, so i´d like some help to start it from zero and help everyone who needs help and i can do tests for you guys cause i love to do it | 22:31 |
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| RaeCarruth | hey all | 22:32 |
| wh86 | welcome #raecarruth | 22:32 |
| RaeCarruth | thanks | 22:32 |
| wh86 | i am new here and would like to join to this maemo testing | 22:33 |
| RaeCarruth | you mean the repository? | 22:33 |
| wh86 | no sorry, i´d like to join in testing stuffs, apps and more you know;? | 22:34 |
| RaeCarruth | ah | 22:34 |
| RaeCarruth | iunno anything about that | 22:34 |
| Sicelo | wh86: u may want to join #maemo-ssu, read up on the /topic , and choose your flavor :) | 22:34 |
| wh86 | to developers news, i can test it without fear | 22:34 |
| wh86 | Thanks #Sicelo | 22:35 |
| wh86 | even if i am new with linux and n900? | 22:35 |
| Sicelo | well, linux would help, but that's not bad. u can learn as u go :) | 22:36 |
| jiero | wh86: find your path to learn whatever you need, nothing tagged "have-to" if you want nothing. | 22:37 |
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| wh86 | thanks again Sicelo, i'm gonna check it out and start to do tutorials for newbies is that fine? | 22:38 |
| RaeCarruth | guys, is there a plugin or a means of creating one conversation stream per contact regardless of whether it's a cell number/gtalk/skype? | 22:39 |
| Sicelo | yw. check out wiki.maemo.org .. good stuff for beginners, intermediate and more experienced users. | 22:39 |
| Sicelo | wh86: i learned at lesat 80% of my linux right here :) | 22:40 |
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| wh86 | wow , so i´ll make the video tutorials and then i put the links here if it is possible (sorry for my english, i am brazilian, not usually type in english, more conversation) | 22:41 |
| Sicelo | nice. i'm african | 22:42 |
| RaeCarruth | where in africa Sicelo? | 22:42 |
| Sicelo | RaeCarruth: i dunno. none that i've heard of | 22:42 |
| Sicelo | Swaziland :) | 22:43 |
| RaeCarruth | nice | 22:43 |
| wh86 | good! so we could keep an easy talk | 22:43 |
| Sicelo | u know it? (not many do, heh) | 22:43 |
| RaeCarruth | surrounded by SA | 22:43 |
| Sicelo | indeed, and Mozambique towards the east | 22:44 |
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| user___ | hello | 22:53 |
| user___ | lol | 22:53 |
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| Sicelo | heh, what's up? | 22:54 |
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| user___ | hello | 22:55 |
| Sicelo | lol? | 22:55 |
| user___ | Yar | 22:55 |
| user___ | I amwriting an espeak to irc | 22:55 |
| Sicelo | heh | 22:55 |
| nox- | haha | 22:55 |
| user___ | irc to espeak actually | 22:55 |
| nox- | *nod* | 22:56 |
| user___ | it uses your user name to generate a unique voice. | 22:56 |
| user___ | so the irc conversation is spoken in different, yet consistent voices | 22:56 |
| nox- | heh i didnt even know it could do that... | 22:57 |
| user___ | you sound like a woman. | 22:57 |
| nox- | hahaha | 22:57 |
| user___ | you can pipe any old shite from stdout to espeak. | 22:57 |
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| nox- | yeah and how do you change the voice? | 22:59 |
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| user___ | hello | 22:59 |
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| user___ | lol | 23:00 |
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| user___ | lol | 23:01 |
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| user___ | lol | 23:03 |
| NIN101 | user___: Why do you use this channel to test? | 23:04 |
| NIN101 | it's kinda annoying . | 23:05 |
| user___ | sorry bro, i will stop interrupting your precious silence. | 23:05 |
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| kerio | user___: hey, fu | 23:07 |
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| Macer | lol | 23:31 |
| Macer | If a particular program or Windows 7 experience requires a higher score than your base score, you can upgrade your hardware to meet the necessary base score. | 23:31 |
| Macer | i wonder how much they paid MS for that one :) | 23:31 |
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| chem|st | Macer: especially as I cannot get higher scores... my 8core 48GBram nvidia quadro6000 workstation with lowlatency HDD has the same score as my gaming pc... | 23:43 |
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| Macer | lol | 23:55 |
| Macer | all my scores were about 6.9 .. but the hard drive is 5.6 | 23:55 |
| Macer | so according to MS i can't play 3d games ;) | 23:55 |
| Macer | A computer with a base score of 6.0 or 7.0 has a faster hard disk, and can support high-end, graphics-intensive experiences, such as multiplayer and 3.D gaming and recording and playback of HDTV content | 23:56 |
| Macer | oh yeah. can't play high def videos either ;) | 23:56 |
| nox- | does ms actually forbid doing these things then or is that score just `adivsory'? | 23:57 |
| Macer | advisory ;) | 23:57 |
| Macer | but i swear they need to fire whoever writes this stuff | 23:57 |
| nox- | marketing.... | 23:57 |
| Macer | oh of course | 23:58 |
| Macer | but my 5.6 scored hard drive plays rage just fine ;) | 23:58 |
| Macer | i think the nvidia gt 240 is probably a little more important than hard drive speed | 23:58 |
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| nox- | same silliness as why most notbooks come with glossy screens, marketing said `it looks better in the shops'... | 23:58 |
| Macer | which really isn't that strong of a card anymore but can still hold its own.. especially with cuda | 23:58 |
| frals | for some reason that WEI picks up one of my storage drives instead of the vertex3 SSD to benchmark as harddrive... | 23:59 |
| Macer | frals: then no 3D gaming for you! slow hard drive! :) | 23:59 |
| Macer | nox-: it would be great if they really did forbid you from playing the game | 23:59 |
| nox- | haha | 23:59 |
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