IRC log of #maemo for Friday, 2011-12-09

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timeless_xchatanyone here have a fremantle sdk handy?00:50
chem|st.oO(host is missing a PSU) nope sry00:50
merlin1991timeless_xchat: yes I have :D00:51
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merlin1991though it is polluted with cssu packages :D00:51
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timeless_xchatcould i get you to build a package for me?00:53
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timeless_xchatone big change though00:55
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timeless_xchatwhere it says: nano cap_sasl.c00:55
timeless_xchatjust create a file next to that file00:55
timeless_xchatmkdir xchat ; echo '#include <xchat-plugin.h>' > xchat/xchat-plugin.h00:56
timeless_xchatnot sure if that'll work, but it's worth trying00:56
timeless_xchatif it doesn't, then:00:56
timeless_xchatln -s . xchat ; ln -s $(find /usr/include -name xchat-plugin.h) .00:57
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timeless_xchat... the goal is to create a vaguely valid .deb package that we could submit to a builder00:57
timeless_xchatbut w/o me getting an sdk :)00:58
timeless_xchatthanks in advance00:58
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JartzaShadowJK: yes, I did complain.01:03
JartzaI'm waiting for an answer still01:04
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javispedrotimeless_xchat: the xchat package in fremantle doesn't seem to provide xchat-plugin01:19
merlin1991timeless_xchat: will do01:23
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valeriushi ppl01:38
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* valerius installed scratchbox and trying to compile a toolchain in it. configure has created a.out and tried to execute it. And it tries to load which is missing /lib is empty at all. From where I can install it?01:42
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valeriusAnd strange, apt-get is present but /etc/apt is missing...01:44
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badcloud_hey guys. is there some way to open link in background window in the web browser?02:22
ShadowJKclosest thing is open in new window02:26
ShadowJKthen you have to manually switch back02:26
badcloud_ShadowJK: nuts02:27
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merlin1991timeless_xchat: I just found a few mins to look into that stuff, so you suggest we create a source package where someone just has to throw the login line there compile and is all ready?03:46
timeless_xchatideally we create a source package03:56
timeless_xchatsend it to the builder03:56
timeless_xchatpeople install package03:56
timeless_xchatand they use the login line03:57
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timeless_xchatmerlin1991: assuming i read things correctly03:57
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Macerdamn. windows media center isn't too bad04:45
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internetishardWhen I try to save something in Notes it defaultly goes to /n900/Documents05:36
internetishardwhen I browse to /home/user/MyDocs/Documents the directory doesn't exist!05:37
internetishardwhat's the deal?05:37
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robbiethe1stinternetishard, it's actually /home/user/MyDocs/.documents05:41
internetishardwow, wtf05:41
robbiethe1stSee: Nokia Weirdness05:42
internetishardsweet. I looked into it because notes stopped saving files to there05:42
internetishardIt says read only everytime05:42
internetishardwhy is .documents read only, but the subdirs arent?05:43
internetishardThis happened out of nowhere05:43
robbiethe1stCheck permissions.05:43
robbiethe1sti.e. ls -al *path*05:44
internetishardeverything is -rw-r--r--05:44
robbiethe1stWho's the owner?05:44
internetishardand . is drwxrwxrwx05:45
robbiethe1stAnd the folders inside?05:45
internetishardBut I tried to touch a file as root05:45
robbiethe1stAlso, type 'mount' and check to make sure there is an entry for /home/user/MyDocs05:45
robbiethe1stSee last comment05:47
internetishardah, that's mounted?05:47
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robbiethe1stMyDocs is a different partition than the rest05:48
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robbiethe1stIt's the 28GB or so fat32 partition that you see when you hook up to usb05:48
robbiethe1st/home/user, on the other hand, is on a 2GB ext3 partition05:48
internetishardah it says /dev/mmblk0p1 on /home/user/MyDocs type vfat05:49
robbiethe1stIf, for some reason, the MyDocs partition wasn't mounted, your files would disappear05:49
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robbiethe1stOk, then it *is* mounted.05:49
internetishardyeah, MyDocs is fine05:49
internetishardthe weirdness starts at .documents05:49
robbiethe1stTry unmounting it and running fsck05:50
robbiethe1stgoogle for instructions05:50
internetishardumount /media/home/user/MyDocs && fsck /dev/whatever, eh?05:51
robbiethe1stMore or less05:51
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internetishardwhy do they need such long/complex volume names?05:52
internetisharduse sda!?05:52
internetishardnice, it found an error05:53
internetishardI'm guessing I can blindly select "fix it"?05:53
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internetishardthis all might have happened when I dropped it in the toilet05:55
internetishardthere are a lot of these05:55
internetishardhow can I select 1 for all?05:55
robbiethe1stNo clu05:57
internetishardthere are shit loads of long garbled file names that its reporting05:58
internetishardI'm selecting 3: truncate checksum05:58
internetishardand 1: fix, for the rest05:58
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internetishardwholy christ there are thousands. I just use the -a so it'd auto doing it..... still going06:07
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internetishardIt's on the 6,000th one06:07
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robbiethe1stEvidently, things are corrupt. And may be made worse06:10
robbiethe1stHopefully you have backups06:10
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internetishardI hope the backup app covers all of these files06:11
internetishardThat's what I've used for my backups so far06:11
internetishardI did all 4 checkboxes... But it didn't specifically list the dirs where I save stuf06:11
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DocScrutinizermoo, and bbl08:55
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psycho_oreosany of you guys tried JP regdom?10:54
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arnetanybody remember old good OS2008?11:02
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arnetOn my n810 wimax editin I cannot get small onscreen keyboard, only the bii one shows up11:04
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psycho_oreosmm I don't have N810 but could it be because you installed international input (such as SCIM for instance) may have broken the vkbd?11:10
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arnethmmm. will check, but I did't11:10
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psycho_oreosif not then try tracing back what you did last before you broke it.. I do know installing for instance mscim/qimsys on N900 breaks the vkbd.. so does portrait keyboard such as T9 for instance11:11
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arnetcause from the beginning when I used N810 only small keyboard were coming, and with N810W snly the big one shows up11:12
arnetWhich is a right way to invoke one or other keyboard?11:12
psycho_oreosthat I wouldn't know personally :| have you tried tmo?11:13
arnetnot yet11:14
psycho_oreosI'd give that a shot as maybe more N8x0 owners may lurk on there more than here :).. it also seems to be a quiet time of the day too (for IRC)11:15
arnetI think I just dont know the right ay to change keyboard size11:15
jaska*shrug* never use vkbd on my n81011:15
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ShadowJKarnet; iirc it's in settings11:49
ShadowJKthe defaults are stylus keyboard if you tap with stylus, and finger keyboard (big) if you tap with thumb.11:50
ShadowJKthe detection stylus/finger only worked first day for me though11:50
ShadowJKJartza; what was wrong with your N900?11:51
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* ruskie is still happy to say he never saw the on screen keyboard on the N90011:53
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psycho_oreosheh with N9 you have no choice but to use vkbd :D11:56
jaskawhich is why i will never have a n9 :)11:57
psycho_oreosI've been trying to convince myself that I'll never will want a N9.. truth be told that no matter how hard I try to ignore the N9, its still there in the brochures mocking me psychologically12:00
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Chikuhum gps not working :( someone got some problem ?12:06
ShadowJKit was working yesterday for me12:07
ChikuN900 ?12:07
psycho_oreoschange your SUPL server to google instead of nokia12:08
Chikuso ?12:10
jieropsycho_oreos: will you attend the barcamp tomorrow?12:10
jieroi got wrong person12:11
psycho_oreosChiku, yes12:11
Chikuthank psycho_oreos12:14
Chikudo you use ovi maps ?12:14
Chikuhum I don't see the red dot on ovi maps12:14
psycho_oreosChiku, every now and then, my ovi maps setup is screwed up right now however12:15
Chikuwhat happened to ?12:15
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psycho_oreosits not reliable, period12:17
psycho_oreosand this isn't official nokia support, if you want official nokia support you might want to try their own forums... something like nokia forums or whatever12:18
ShadowJKit was working without supl, at all, yesterday for me12:20
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chem|stChiku: you are better off with something like mappero12:22
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chem|stShadowJK: back when all where complaining I had to say WFM, it did get a fix within minutes without network and in seconds with...12:23
chem|stChiku: change the supl if it need be12:24
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Chikuok let's try it12:24
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Chikuwithout gps hardware ? how does it work?12:25
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psycho_oreosit has its own internal GPS12:25
psycho_oreosI can tell you without internal GPS being used to get the initial lock, there's almost zero chance of getting a lock under a roof of a solid house with no wifi, GSM or bluetooth connectivity12:26
psycho_oreosnow it probably wouldn't even matter if you changed the SUPL server back to nokia after getting the initial lock with google12:26
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chem|stpsycho_oreos: it doesn't matter12:28
chem|stonce you got a fix you got the right caches12:29
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psycho_oreoschem|st, *sigh* and my point was?12:29
chem|stproblem here on 3G is, the antenna is 300km away in^^12:30
psycho_oreos<psycho_oreos> now it probably wouldn't even matter if you changed the SUPL server back to nokia after getting the initial lock with google12:30
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chem|stpsycho_oreos: read again ;) "probably wouldn't even matter" and "doesn't matter"12:31
chem|stI was confirming your idea12:31
psycho_oreoschem|st, more like you were initially disagreeing but whatever12:31
chem|stI shoudl have written a proper sentence sry12:32
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dangergrrlthe drivers from madde do not work for usbnet in win7 :(12:34
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dangergrrl(for me)12:34
psycho_oreos... so use linux under vm.. win!12:34
dangergrrli'll have a "real" usb wifi in a couple of days12:35
dangergrrlbut needless to say, in the meantime linux is much more fun than win since my nets work12:36
JartzaShadowJK: the usb plug came out, the usual :)12:36
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dangergrrlua there a remedy for worn out usb plug on n900?12:36
dangergrrli have to wrap the usb cable around it to get contact12:37
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psycho_oreosyeah, get it re-soldered before it actually falls out12:38
chem|stI am not really gentle with my device and have no problems... what are you guys doing with your usb cords while plugged in?12:38
chem|sthunt down cattle?12:39
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dangergrrli am using my n900 as a router12:39
Sicelolol chem|st :P12:39
chem|stso it is laying untouched somewhere?12:39
dangergrrli have to poke on it pretty often to check if the wifi came up, crappy motel wifi12:40
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jierodangergrrl:  how? using usb hotspot the application?12:41
Gh0stydangergrrl: you use it as wifi router?12:41
chem|stso what? my device is hanging off my desk while charging...12:41
Gh0styor just use it over usb?12:41
dangergrrluse it as usb<->wifi router12:41
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Gh0styI usually connect it to my laptop over usb and route 3g like that :P12:41
dangergrrlit works12:41
dangergrrlno gsm signal where i live12:42
chem|stdangergrrl: usb - wifi? are you seriouse?!12:42
jierochem|st:  yeah12:42
Gh0styyou live in the middle of nowhere :P12:42
Gh0stychem|st: why not? :/12:42
jierochem|st: people do that, but I never success12:42
dangergrrlmy site is upgrading to a T1 in a couple of weeks12:42
Gh0stydid it too like I said: connect to 3G with my n900 and connect it as network device over usb to my laptop12:42
ShadowJKI suspect the usb detaches sooner if you always unplug/plug it at an angle, or move it left/right or up/down when unplugging instead of straight out and in12:42
Gh0stysetup ip forwarding and done :)12:42
chem|stGh0sty: all devices I hav which need internet have wifi or are that heavy that I do not take them with me in a motel12:42
dangergrrli think we are stuck with carrier pigeons until then12:43
dangergrrlthis device is quite heavy12:44
psycho_oreosif the N900 was dropped onto a relatively hard surface whilst the USB plug is plugged in and it happens to hit on the connector bit, it can either break or weaken the connectors12:44
dangergrrlfull tower pc12:44
chem|st"this device"?12:44
dangergrrli live in the motel12:44
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Gh0stywoow living in a motel :o12:44
chem|stthat explains12:45
chem|sthow about a $5 usb wifi?12:45
dangergrrl$750/mo pays all bills12:45
dangergrrli ordered the $40 alfa 2000mw one12:46
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dangergrrlbe here by wednesday12:46
* ShadowJK used to rent a singleroom(+bath) for $250 a month, electricity,heat,water included12:46
dangergrrl9dbi antenna12:46
chem|st2000mw?! with that power I could support wifi to ahlf of my city....12:46
dangergrrlShadowJK, not in boulder county coloradp :P12:46
psycho_oreosthat's the theoretical maximum TX power12:47
ShadowJKchem|st; only if you could hear the distant stations12:47
chem|stShadowJK: well would use the highest building and put it on top...12:47
psycho_oreosalfa devices are not fitted with preamp RX, only for TX are they fitted with a preamp12:47
dangergrrlit is really pretty here12:47
dangergrrlbut it's a tiny place in the edge of the mountains12:49
dangergrrlpsycho_oreos, has to have more power than i am getting with the n90012:49
dangergrrli have to check for sunspot activity before i go online now12:50
psycho_oreosdangergrrl, in theory it probably would but its not like you can make full use of the TX power if your windows has those stupid regulatory settings enforcd12:50
infobotpsycho_oreos meant: dangergrrl, in theory it probably would but its not like you can make full use of the TX power if your windows has those stupid regulatory settings enforced12:50
psycho_oreosand again you can't really compare a directional wireless setup with an omni directional antenna setup.. it really varies A LOT12:51
dangergrrlso, could i run gentoo on my n900? :P12:53
ShadowJKluke does it12:53
dangergrrlit is a lark btw12:53
psycho_oreosthere's another bloke that runs gentoo on N900 as well, I can't quite remember his handle, definitely starts with s12:53
psycho_oreosslonopotamus or something12:54
dangergrrlanyhow getting some connectivity in windows will be a plus, uninterrupted nets in linux would be win12:54
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psycho_oreosfor the latter part, it might be theoretically possible with some scripts being placed on crontab12:56
Gh0stywoow $750 or $250 is cheap12:57
jierowhy not...just why the Raspberry Pi run everything, 1080P... want to make netbook on it.12:57
Gh0styI pay 700 eur! :(12:57
jieroEven Gamemaker is porting their platform for Raspberry Pi...12:58
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dangergrrlGh0sty, i just have a small room in the colorado foothills13:00
dangergrrlclosest town is 2 miles, population 2000 including me13:01
mihuHi. I'm playing around with a spare N900. I am logged in via ssh and sometimes when I shut down system services etc. it happens that the device reboots. Where is that watchdog functionality implemented and how can I keep the N900 from resetting?13:02
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ShadowJKthere's also a hardware watchdog, which hard resets device if software stops poking it13:03
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mihuShadowJK: That means if I disable the service via dsmetool then it should be safe and no reboot should happen, right? Which software is poking the hardware watchdog?13:03
dangergrrlGh0sty, i am on the funtoo usermap13:04
ShadowJKin Diablo it was called kicker13:04
ShadowJKnot sure about fremantle13:04
dangergrrli think within like 50ft13:04
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mihuShadowJK: Ideally, I want to shutdown the whole graphical user interface.13:05
dangergrrlyou know the n900 reboots at random when used as a router :(13:05
* ShadowJK vaguely remembers mobile hotspot people encountered a few kernel oops13:06
psycho_oreosits not a true wifi hotspot mode, its more like adhoc13:07
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Gh0stycool between the mountains :)13:07
Gh0stylooking with google streetview I see here a sign "Stone mountain"13:08
dangergrrlit's amazingly beautiful when there is snow in the morning13:13
MohammadAG<mihu> ShadowJK: That means if I disable the service via dsmetool then it should be safe and no reboot should happen, right? Which software is poking the hardware watchdog?13:14
MohammadAGdsmetool requests the reboot13:14
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Gh0stydangergrrl: is it possible to ski there? :p13:15
Gh0stynot a big fan of snow though :)13:16
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Gh0styto look at ... yes13:16
Gh0styto go to work through it ... no :P13:16
mihuMohammadAG: Thanks. Is there a way to disable dsmetool or the daemon in the background completely?13:16
dangergrrlright here?  probably not, a few hundred feet up, yes13:16
dangergrrlwe don't get much snow, ot is high plains desert13:17
MohammadAGR&D mode13:17
MohammadAGflasher-3.5 --enable-rd-mode --set-rd-flags=no-lifeguard-reset13:17
Gh0stywhats temperatures there like right now?13:17
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Gh0sty(i have no idea about climate in the US)13:17
dangergrrlthe deep snow is in oregon and washington13:18
Gh0styyeah heard about that13:19
Gh0styprobably have to go for work in the surroundings of washington in jan / feb13:19
Gh0stythat'll be fun ... :p13:19
dangergrrlredmond is cool and damp then13:20
dangergrrllike 5C and rain13:20
Gh0styonly been once to the us ... NY and boston end of may13:20
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Gh0stywas pretty nice, not too hot13:20
mihuMohammadAG: Thanks. I found which explains this nicely as well. Ultimately, I want to hook some custom hardware the uSD slot of the N900. For development purposes, I want to unmount /home. Otherwise I cannot enable MMC debugging in the kernel because every access to /home will flood my debug output. Do you think this is achievable?13:21
MohammadAGI'm not sure if you can do that13:21
MohammadAG/opt lives under /home13:22
MohammadAGthat has system themes/fonts etc13:22
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MohammadAGyou can probably edit the rootfs.jffs2 image to remove the script that moves items from / to /opt on first boot13:23
MohammadAGthen reflash that image13:23
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MohammadAGand then you can probably unmount /home13:23
dangergrrlcan you lock things in RAM and guarantee hard real time?13:23
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MohammadAGor just force umount and hope for the best13:23
MohammadAGI forced a unmount of / once13:24
MohammadAGsystem worked well till I closed an app13:24
mihuMohammadAG: With "first boot" do you mean reboot or really the first boot of a fresh system?13:24
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MohammadAGfrom PR1.2 onwards, there's a script that moves and symlinks system files13:25
MohammadAGmaemo-optify-runounce is the name I think13:26
MohammadAGlemme check13:26
mihuOr can I just move back /home/opt/ to / now?13:26
MohammadAGwell, yeah, you can probably do tha13:27
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MohammadAGthat's the script13:28
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mihuMohammadAG: Hm, these Qt libraries in /opt/lib are huge.13:33
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MohammadAGask yourself13:34
MohammadAGdo you need Qt libraries while debugging?13:34
mihuMohammadAG: Will a stock PR1.3 system come up without them?13:34
psycho_oreosany of you guys played with JP regdom?13:35
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mihuMohammadAG: Perhaps it's easier if I just compile in g_ether into the kernel and then let the device boot from a NFS root.13:39
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MohammadAGmihu, yes, it should13:44
MohammadAGQt libraries aren't used in the main UI framework or during boot up13:44
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Sicelono. not them.. works13:45
Sicelohmm, wrong window. apologies13:45
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mihuMohammadAG: I don't want to change the system too much, because after initial bring-up, I want to go back to it. So I will try rootfs via NFS first.13:50
vi_psycho_oreos: it is not real JP REG channel 14.13:53
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psycho_oreosvi_, and heh it seems to make my N900 reboot when associated to my AP for a few moments13:57
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vi_psycho_oreos: just set it to europran reg dom.  It is the same.14:05
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psycho_oreosvi_, yeah its set to EU by default14:06
psycho_oreosI was merely testing JP for curious purposes14:07
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vi__on most AP it allows use of channel 14.  JP being the only country in the world to allow it.14:08
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vi__The benefit of 14 is it is a whole 2 channel widths away from 13 (instead of the usual 1) meaning there is less interferance from neighbouring channels.14:09
psycho_oreosyou meant they forbade the use of channel 14 :)14:09
psycho_oreoswell JP does allow the use of channel 14, which is true, but yes I was tinkering around with regdom following site14:10
vi__also people outside JP generally dont have it in use meaning you have a whole channel to yourself with no side interferance.14:10
vi__ah, hawaii's blog14:10
vi__there is some good shit on there.14:10
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psycho_oreosyup :)14:11
psycho_oreoshawaii's blog? I didn't know that belonged to him14:11
ShadowJKi thought even in jp, only 11b was allowed on 1414:12
vi__ShadowJK: perhaps.14:12
vi__ShadowJK: perhaps that is why only upto 13 is available on n900 with jp reg dom.14:13
vi__as it is in mixed mode by default.14:13
vi__we need somone to investigate...14:13
vi__psycho_oreos: I choose you!14:13
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psycho_oreoslol why me? :þ I got enough projects as it is14:15
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vi__I was only choosing.  like a blastoise.14:17
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mihuMohammadAG: Do you know what the sti-console flag does in R&D mode? I could not find an explanation.14:43
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MohammadAGmihu, serial console14:54
mihuMohammadAG: there is another flag called serial-console. Do you know the difference?14:54
mihuMohammadAG: I want to connect to the serial port below the battery.14:55
MohammadAGhmm, no idea then14:56
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MohammadAGask jacekowski14:56
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mihuMohammadAG: Ok, thanks. Not so important now. Hm, my system keeps bind-mounting /home/opt/ to /opt. fstab is "autogenerated". Do you know how the bind-mounting is done on boot and where? I haven't found it yet.15:18
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MohammadAGany reversing experts?15:20
MohammadAGmihu, check /etc/rcS*15:20
MohammadAGI have a wireshark capture15:20
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MohammadAGof whatsapp logging in,  not sure I can figure it all out15:20
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jonwilI think it would be easier to reverse engineer the binary than to try and figure it out from the network protocol15:21
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mihuMohammadAG: Found it. It wasn't in /etc/rcS, but /usr/lib/genfstab.awk creates it.15:22
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MohammadAGjonwil, want the binary? :P15:22
jonwilfor which platform? I think the Android APK is the easiest to reverse engineer15:22
MohammadAGI have that15:23
MohammadAGbut the .java files are compiled into dex(?)15:23
jonwilthere are decompilers for that15:24
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jonwilcurrently running the apk file from their website through
jonwilsee what comes out15:26
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jonwilif only there was an easy way to figure out the encrypted osso-backup format...15:28
MohammadAGthe only thing I know is usernames are phonenumber@whatsapp.com15:29
MohammadAGmine is 97254.......@whatsapp.com15:29
jonwilok, its decompiled15:30
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jonwilhmmm, its too obfusicated to be of help15:33
jonwilwhich is what I suspected15:33
chem|stare you guys trying to get msg to whatsapp from outside or implement a client for maemo?15:35
chem|stthe license note keeps me telling people to not use it15:36
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badcloud_hey guys. anyone know where flash vids reside on rootfs when being played via MicroB? I looked in /tmp and 'ps aux|grep flash' ('/proc/#/fd/Flashxx' trick) and both came up empty16:08
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MohammadAGjonwil, so? :P16:17
MohammadAGwant the iOS binary?16:17
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jonwilthat wont help16:21
jonwilI know nothing about ios16:21
MohammadAGit's OBJ-C16:22
jonwilI know nothing about objective C either16:22
MohammadAGit's a superset of C16:22
jonwilNone of the tools I have are any use at reverse engineering IOS binaries16:22
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jonwiland I have no real interest in that WhatsApp crap anyway :P16:24
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MohammadAG I just need the password16:32
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MohammadAGgonna try looking at the android config/data files16:32
jonwilMight have another crack at the osso-backup format16:32
merlin1991okay odd situatuation, my sister claims her n900 suddenly started to ask for lock code, best way to recover?16:32
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MohammadAGlike, when she's using it it asks for a lock code, or was the code request interval set to off and it still asked for a lock code?16:33
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merlin1991as in there never was a lockcode, she laid it aside and when unlocking the screen as usually it asked for one16:34
MohammadAGif it's the former, it's probably mce segfaulting/restarting for some reason16:34
MohammadAGask her if the keyboard lights flicker right before it asks for the code16:34
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MohammadAGdoes it have ssh? if so, fire an unlock signal16:34
merlin1991afaik it doesn't16:35
merlin1991what would the unlock signal be? oO16:35
MohammadAGsome dbus line16:35
MohammadAGdbus-send --print-reply --system --type=method_call /com/nokia/system_ui/request string:'' string:'/com/nokia/mce/request' string:'' string:'devlock_callback' uint32:'0'16:36
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MohammadAGthe reason Aegis's mce::devLock cap is denied16:36
ketasdamn i want n900 myself16:37
merlin1991well no ssh, and 12345 isn't working either16:37
MohammadAGstring the mtd block?16:37
merlin1991yep, but how?16:37
merlin1991since it ofc asks for lock code on bootup16:38
MohammadAGMeeGo rescue initrd16:38
merlin1991this is going to be fun :D16:38
MohammadAGjust an FYI16:38
MohammadAGmake sure there's no ssh16:38
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MohammadAGsince once you reboot, you're not going to have wifi16:38
merlin1991don't have wifi anyway16:38
MohammadAGoh and another thing16:38
MohammadAGif you can get hildon-desktop to crash the lock code dialog won't be modal anymore16:39
merlin1991router here sucks ass, so need to disable power save in order to have proper wireless16:39
merlin1991so don't have it on autoconnect16:39
merlin1991well I'll have to try the meego rescue initrd16:39
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MohammadAGif that doesn't work meego will for sure16:42
MohammadAGjust hope the cal parition isn't corrupt16:42
javispedrois there a fiasco for the latest n900 pr btw?16:43
Macerdoes meego work on an n90016:44
MohammadAGjavispedro, yes, on navifirm16:45
MohammadAGI'm not sure if X-Fade can add it under tablets-dev16:45
merlin1991javispedro: why do you need a fiasco for the latest n900pr?16:45
merlin1991it's 4 packages to update16:45
merlin1991like 5 mb or something16:45
javispedrofiasco images are prelinked16:46
javispedro(or at least, that's what they told me...)16:46
merlin1991"prelinked" ?16:46
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MohammadAGso you'll have the maemo certificates applet start faster, big whoop :p16:49
javispedronote that at most it will provide a subsecond enhacement on a very limited set of binaries, so it's not usually worth it, but since I'm reflashing16:49
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javispedroMohammadAG: and the browser! =)16:49
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javispedroit probably links with certman16:50
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mihuMohammadAG: Finally I was successful. I moved /home/opt to /opt2 and /home/user to /home2/user and mount-binded these together. After modifying usr/lib/genfstab.awk and especially /etc/event.d/rcS-late, all partitions from eMMC can be unmounted after boot. The MMC driver and subsystem can be unloaded. Thank you very much for your help.16:57
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MohammadAGmihu, you're welcome :D17:06
MohammadAGjonwil, phonenumber@s.whatsapp.com17:07
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timeless_xchathi merlin199117:18
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merlin1991timeless_xchat: I'll look into it today17:26
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uros1after update speedpatch and battery patch today i was unable to change clock of CPU locked on 500 mhz. Any fix17:45
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DocScrutinizer51timeless_xchat: long time no see18:28
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badcloud_hey guys18:45
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badcloud_broken record here, anyone know where flash files are hidden on rootfs while being played by MicroB?18:46
javispedrofunny, the n950 never showed the name of my carrier, but the n900 does18:47
javispedro(both showed the name of my old carrier)18:47
javispedroah... so nice to use a resistive screen again18:47
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javispedrocannot really believe that on the n900 ovi store the word "beta" still appears.18:58
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MohammadAGpoor javispedro19:12
MohammadAGHarmattan withdrawal symptoms, they caused me to buy an iDevice, or two19:12
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scoobertronCan I change the outline/border color of desktop command execution widgets?  I have noticed that it changes as I change the theme, but I am not sure how to change it on its own.19:58
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DocScrutinizer([2011-12-09 16:45:11] <uros1> after update speedpatch and battery patch today...) aren't that those considered-placebo-with-a-bit-of-toxic-shit voodoo-based N900 "improvement" packages?20:16
uros1DocScrutinizer: :)20:18
uros1placebo? nice definition20:19
DocScrutinizerwell, I tried hard not to sound too offensive20:19
DocScrutinizermy private definition of those is using more harsh terms20:20
uros1well this is new light on this issue20:20
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uros1A music messaging session has been requested. Please click the MM icon to accept.20:22
DocScrutinizerscoobertron: not sure about dcew, but in queenBeecon you can configure each single pixel, for each minute of the day ;-D20:22
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redeemanis there an easy way to read out detailed call log?21:30
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jieroSeriously, Web OS is going to be Open Source Community project!
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wh86hello everyone! greetings from brasil22:29
wh86i'm new with my n900 but i saw a thousand good stuffs to do with it, so i´d like some help to start it from zero and help everyone who needs help and i can do tests for you guys cause i love to do it22:31
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RaeCarruthhey all22:32
wh86welcome #raecarruth22:32
wh86i am new here and would like to join to this maemo testing22:33
RaeCarruthyou mean the repository?22:33
wh86no sorry, i´d like to join in testing stuffs, apps and more you know;?22:34
RaeCarruthiunno anything about that22:34
Sicelowh86: u may want to join #maemo-ssu, read up on the /topic , and choose your flavor :)22:34
wh86to developers news, i can test it without fear22:34
wh86Thanks #Sicelo22:35
wh86even if i am new with linux and n900?22:35
Sicelowell, linux would help, but that's not bad. u can learn as u go :)22:36
jierowh86:  find your path to learn whatever you need, nothing tagged "have-to" if you want nothing.22:37
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wh86thanks again Sicelo, i'm gonna check it out and start to do tutorials for newbies is that fine?22:38
RaeCarruthguys, is there a plugin or a means of creating one conversation stream per contact regardless of whether it's a cell number/gtalk/skype?22:39
Siceloyw. check out .. good stuff for beginners, intermediate and more experienced users.22:39
Sicelowh86: i learned at lesat 80% of my linux right here :)22:40
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wh86wow , so i´ll make the video tutorials and then i put the links here if it is possible (sorry for my english, i am brazilian, not usually type in english, more conversation)22:41
Sicelonice. i'm african22:42
RaeCarruthwhere in africa Sicelo?22:42
SiceloRaeCarruth: i dunno. none that i've heard of22:42
SiceloSwaziland :)22:43
wh86good! so we could keep an easy talk22:43
Sicelou know it? (not many do, heh)22:43
RaeCarruthsurrounded by SA22:43
Siceloindeed, and Mozambique towards the east22:44
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Siceloheh, what's up?22:54
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user___I amwriting an espeak to irc22:55
user___irc to espeak actually22:55
user___it uses your user name to generate a unique voice.22:56
user___so the irc conversation is spoken in different, yet consistent voices22:56
nox-heh i didnt even know it could do that...22:57
user___you sound like a woman.22:57
user___you can pipe any old shite from stdout to espeak.22:57
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nox-yeah and how do you change the voice?22:59
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NIN101user___: Why do you use this channel to test?23:04
NIN101it's kinda annoying .23:05
user___sorry bro, i will stop interrupting your precious silence.23:05
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keriouser___: hey, fu23:07
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MacerIf a particular program or Windows 7 experience requires a higher score than your base score, you can upgrade your hardware to meet the necessary base score.23:31
Maceri wonder how much they paid MS for that one :)23:31
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chem|stMacer: especially as I cannot get higher scores... my 8core 48GBram nvidia quadro6000 workstation with lowlatency HDD has the same score as my gaming pc...23:43
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Macerall my scores were about 6.9 .. but the hard drive is 5.623:55
Macerso according to MS i can't play 3d games ;)23:55
MacerA computer with a base score of 6.0 or 7.0 has a faster hard disk, and can support high-end, graphics-intensive experiences, such as multiplayer and 3.D gaming and recording and playback of HDTV content23:56
Maceroh yeah. can't play high def videos either ;)23:56
nox-does ms actually forbid doing these things then or is that score just `adivsory'?23:57
Maceradvisory ;)23:57
Macerbut i swear they need to fire whoever writes this stuff23:57
Maceroh of course23:58
Macerbut my 5.6 scored hard drive plays rage just fine ;)23:58
Maceri think the nvidia gt 240 is probably a little more important than hard drive speed23:58
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nox-same silliness as why most notbooks come with glossy screens, marketing said `it looks better in the shops'...23:58
Macerwhich really isn't that strong of a card anymore but can still hold its own.. especially with cuda23:58
fralsfor some reason that WEI picks up one of my storage drives instead of the vertex3 SSD to benchmark as harddrive...23:59
Macerfrals: then no 3D gaming for you! slow hard drive! :)23:59
Macernox-: it would be great if they really did forbid you from playing the game23:59
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