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* sidnei gives up and installs mer | 00:41 | |
woglinde | *g* | 00:41 |
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Stskeeps | hint: choose simple installation | 00:41 |
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sidnei | Stskeeps: thanks, that was my guess *wink* | 00:42 |
sidnei | Stskeeps: to boot, it's downloading at full speed, ports.ubuntu.com was giving me just 10k/s | 00:42 |
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Stskeeps | yeah, ports.ubuntu.com is shite | 00:42 |
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ZehRique | Hello, there. Does somebody can tell me some maemo emulators under GNU/Linux? | 01:33 |
bef0rd | what do you mean ZehRique | 01:34 |
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ZehRique | bef0rd: Well, I would like to develop an application in python for maemo and I don't know wich kind of emulators for using | 01:35 |
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Jaffa | ZehRique: The Maemo SDK comes with qemu, and an x86 version of Maemo you can run locally | 01:37 |
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ZehRique | Jaffa: hmm.. OK! I will try it. But there is a software related with GNOME that does the same functionallity, am I sure? | 01:39 |
Jaffa | I'm afraid I don't understand your question. | 01:40 |
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ZehRique | Jaffa: I will paste a link here. If you can help me, I'll be very glad. | 01:41 |
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crashanddie_ | ZehRique, my I suggest that you read up upon the starter's guide for maemo developers? | 01:59 |
crashanddie_ | ZehRique, most of these questions are covered. Most people run qemu which allows to run an emulated ARM environment. This is probably what you are looking after, as Jaffa said. | 01:59 |
crashanddie_ | ZehRique, there is no software that originated in the GNOME project that achieves the same level of emulation, nor is there any support for other software than QEMU | 02:00 |
lbt | lcuk: I seem to have gotten finger scrolling integrated into Qt core :) | 02:00 |
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lcuk | !! :D lbt | 02:01 |
lbt | it's a bit ugly... | 02:01 |
lbt | it needs to introspect to find 'size()' methods | 02:02 |
lbt | but it works on the demo apps like Qt4 setting and qdbusviewer | 02:02 |
woglinde | hm what will be the standard videoplayer in fremantle? | 02:02 |
lbt | need to do a video tomorrow... | 02:03 |
RST38h | !!! | 02:03 |
woglinde | lbt hehe | 02:03 |
woglinde | I tried qt-embedded with gles at the desktop here with directfb | 02:03 |
woglinde | but this config is segfaulting | 02:03 |
lbt | night all :) | 02:05 |
woglinde | nite lbt | 02:05 |
woglinde | ~lart intel for no opensource driver for poulsbo | 02:05 |
* infobot frags intel for no opensource driver with his BFG9000 for poulsbo | 02:05 | |
woglinde | I am going to | 02:05 |
woglinde | good nite | 02:05 |
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ZehRique | sorry Jaffa: the link is this: http://live.gnome.org/Hildon | 02:06 |
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ZehRique | Jaffa: do you know if it has a good maemo emulator? | 02:07 |
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Jaffa | Hildon is a library used by Maemo and Ubuntu MID | 02:09 |
ZehRique | Jaffa: hmm... Then I will use the Maemo SDK. Thanks for your help! | 02:10 |
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RST38h | Finally! MaemoSDK+ installation | 05:14 |
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TrueJournals | Hey... anyone familiar with sdk+ | 05:24 |
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RST38h | What is your question? | 05:26 |
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TrueJournals | Well, I launch the gui for the latest diablo sdk (armel emulated), and when I click the application icon in the task navigator, the gui just closes | 05:27 |
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RST38h | Congratulations, it crashed. | 05:27 |
RST38h | Anything else you would like to know? =) | 05:27 |
TrueJournals | How can I make it not crash? :P | 05:28 |
fireun | use magic | 05:28 |
TrueJournals | Hmmm... | 05:28 |
TrueJournals | Can apt-get install that? | 05:28 |
RST38h | The trick is to avoid using i386 Maemo imulation | 05:29 |
RST38h | Ă¡simulation | 05:30 |
RST38h | Just debug on the real device | 05:30 |
TrueJournals | But it's so much easier with maemo emulation on my computer... | 05:31 |
TrueJournals | Trying to debug a task navigator plugin... | 05:32 |
RST38h | It crashes. | 05:32 |
RST38h | Also, it is not 100% the same | 05:32 |
TrueJournals | I realize that, but I'd like to get it working if possible | 05:32 |
RST38h | Ah, you are trying to DEBUG A TASK NAVIGATOR R PLUGIN :)) | 05:32 |
RST38h | Have you considered that it might have been your plugin crashing it? =) | 05:33 |
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TrueJournals | Haven't even installed the plugin | 05:33 |
TrueJournals | Much less enabled it... | 05:33 |
* RST38h wonders if sdk+ diablo boostrap is as buggy as before | 05:33 | |
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RST38h | True: Then it just crashes on its own. Avoid. Debug on the real hw. | 05:34 |
TrueJournals | *sigh* | 05:35 |
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TrueJournals | Ah, well... it seems upgrading to jaunty was a mistake :P | 06:10 |
fireun | "woops" | 06:14 |
fireun | its too pure | 06:14 |
TrueJournals | You're telling me :P Well, I hope the regular sdk works on jaunty... | 06:14 |
fireun | what does "beta" mean again? (; | 06:15 |
TrueJournals | Yes, yes... Apparently beta software on a beta OS = no-go... | 06:15 |
* fireun is still trying to get the video speed back after going to intrepid | 06:15 | |
TrueJournals | Well... this is going to take a good 10 minutes or so... | 06:17 |
fireun | time enough to go get a juicebox | 06:17 |
TrueJournals | More like midnight snack... it's 11:20 here... | 06:19 |
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neatojones | what's up peeps? | 07:38 |
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zakkm | do you need to buy anything to use irreco on a n800? | 08:15 |
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benson | zakkm: No, you can steal it. :p | 08:27 |
benson | I believe it does require additional hardware. | 08:27 |
zakkm | seriously though. | 08:27 |
zakkm | the description makes it sound so weird and googling | 08:28 |
zakkm | it doesnt actually specify | 08:28 |
zakkm | such play-on-words to me | 08:28 |
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qwerty12 | hannesw, if I can get libwebkit in -devel, would it be OK to use the autobuilder? Only thing I have reservations about is that the autobuilder uses Scratchbox 1 and you say libwebkit built in sbox1 crashes on CSS parsing code | 09:57 |
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hannesw | qwerty12: yes, that's my experience. | 10:00 |
hannesw | but it's worth a try, i'd say | 10:00 |
hannesw | if you get it to use a different version of bison like bundyo says, it might work | 10:00 |
qwerty12 | I may as well go for it, I've got bison-2.2 in -devel and I think my rules "magic" should work | 10:00 |
hannesw | would be really cool | 10:00 |
hannesw | did you try it locally? | 10:01 |
qwerty12 | No, I'm gonna try it now | 10:01 |
hannesw | good luck :-) | 10:03 |
qwerty12 | I'll enable VFP, hope the 770 users don't come after me :) | 10:03 |
qwerty12 | Lol, thanks :) | 10:03 |
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AStorm | hmm, seems that my n810 has given up :? | 10:11 |
AStorm | infinite reboot loop | 10:11 |
AStorm | guess I'll need a reflash | 10:11 |
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AStorm | or, not | 10:11 |
AStorm | but this is starting to happen more often | 10:12 |
vasily_pupkin | reflash sucks | 10:19 |
* vasily_pupkin make full flash of his device only once | 10:20 | |
hhahlo | hi, is xine compiled for maemo? | 10:21 |
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* qwerty12 curses himself for not running dpkg-buildpackage with DEB_BUILD_OPTIONS="parallel=2" | 10:58 | |
Stskeeps | heh | 11:00 |
qwerty12 | morning Stskeeps | 11:01 |
qwerty12 | hannesw, think the bison trick worked, configure succeeded and config.log shows /usr/bin as first in my path. Now just to see if it finishes compiling... :) | 11:02 |
Stskeeps | morning qwerty12 | 11:02 |
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qwerty12 | heh | 11:03 |
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qwerty12 | X-Fade, In the maemo-policy, the "B.3 Parallel option" section should be updated - it's been added to debian policy | 11:12 |
GeneralAntilles | qwerty12, hit -developers. | 11:12 |
GeneralAntilles | Eero and co. are in charge of the policy. | 11:12 |
qwerty12 | Ah, ok, thanks. | 11:12 |
GeneralAntilles | qwerty12, see section 1.4. :P | 11:13 |
qwerty12 | Haha, thanks:P | 11:13 |
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vasily_pupkin | anybody know, is there any way to emulate USB keyboard? | 11:31 |
vasily_pupkin | or generic HID device& | 11:31 |
vasily_pupkin | ? | 11:31 |
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qwerty12 | hannesw, welcome back, I think the bison trick worked, configure succeeded and config.log shows /usr/bin as first in my path. Now just to see if it finishes compiling... :) | 11:32 |
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lbt | hello gnuton... | 11:40 |
gnuton | 'morning lbt! :D | 11:40 |
gnuton | lbt: how are you mate? | 11:40 |
lbt | I'm just running qtdemo against my fingerscroller ... and it works quite well so I'm happy! | 11:40 |
lbt | it is nowhere near as elegant as ariya's version though | 11:41 |
lbt | OTOH mine actually works ;) | 11:41 |
gnuton | lbt: cool! Does it work also for horizontal and diagonal scrolling? | 11:41 |
lbt | oh yes... | 11:42 |
lbt | I was going to do a video... but I may just send you the patch to try | 11:42 |
lbt | it's not intrusive at all | 11:42 |
gnuton | perfect... what do you mean with intrusive? it filters the evetns? | 11:43 |
lbt | single line insert to add a 'monitor' object in the constructor new QAbstractScrollAreaPrivateScroller(this); | 11:43 |
lbt | no, code wise | 11:43 |
lbt | event wise it is intrusive | 11:43 |
lbt | but | 11:43 |
lbt | it takes press/move events eats them and copies them into a queue | 11:44 |
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lbt | then it replays them | 11:44 |
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lbt | which means no events are lost | 11:44 |
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lbt | sadly there are issues with movement calcs | 11:45 |
gnuton | mmm too expensive to add them in the libs :/ Do you think? | 11:45 |
lbt | probably not - it is the same approach as ariya | 11:45 |
lbt | but more flexible | 11:45 |
lbt | I think | 11:45 |
lbt | plus, it is *very* easy to disable | 11:46 |
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lbt | so I was thinking of integrating into the Qt settings manager | 11:46 |
gnuton | lbt: the ariya code has been amputated by me of the queue... :D | 11:46 |
lbt | ah | 11:47 |
gnuton | lbt: if you take a look of my lib patch I've removed the queue | 11:47 |
lbt | that's probably why it doesn't work... <grin> | 11:47 |
gnuton | ahah :D maybe :D | 11:47 |
lbt | I have some questions | 11:47 |
gnuton | the worst thing is that sometime it works. sometime it doesn't.. :/ | 11:48 |
gnuton | lbt: ask me | 11:48 |
lbt | ScrollBar()->maximum() and friends | 11:49 |
lbt | internally Qt uses pixel size but this can be changed by setRange | 11:49 |
lbt | so we *should* do scroll_range.ry() = qabstractscrollarea->verticalScrollBar()->maximum() - qabstractscrollarea->verticalScrollBar()->minimum(); | 11:49 |
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lbt | and then work on these values - yes? | 11:50 |
lbt | so scroll_start / scroll_range = fraction_value_of_scrollbar when we 'touch' | 11:51 |
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lbt | we need to calculate fraction_value_of_scrollbar when we move/release | 11:51 |
lbt | fraction_value_of_scrollbar is related to child widget size | 11:51 |
lbt | so I am introspecting and using class-specifics to get size eg | 11:52 |
lbt | qscrollarea->widget()->width(); | 11:52 |
lbt | qtextedit->document()->size().toSize(); | 11:52 |
lbt | qgraphicsview->sceneRect().size().toSize(); | 11:52 |
lbt | (all this stuff is not in the 'fast path') | 11:53 |
lbt | all this is needed 'cos *I* think ariya's approach : horizontalScrollBar()->setValue(delta.x()); | 11:54 |
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lbt | will fail if the scrollbar range is changed | 11:54 |
lbt | am I right? | 11:54 |
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gnuton | lbt: that's right | 11:59 |
lbt | good - that's where 99% of the extra weight comes from... | 12:00 |
lbt | being generic | 12:00 |
lbt | I've sent you the patch | 12:00 |
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lbt | also I don't touch *anything* other than abstractscrollarea | 12:00 |
gnuton | okay | 12:00 |
lbt | and then only to add this monitor object during init | 12:01 |
lbt | it might be a good idea to try the patch before looking at the code <blush> | 12:01 |
gnuton | I took a look already :P ahah :D | 12:04 |
lbt | also, some of the code was designed to allow options like paperScroll vs normalScroll and constraining horiz/vert scrolling, turning kinetic off | 12:06 |
lbt | but that's not exposed as I didn't want to add any API | 12:06 |
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Jaffa | Morning, all | 12:10 |
StsN801 | morn jaffa | 12:11 |
lbt | 'lo | 12:11 |
Guest79732 | morning, jaffa~ | 12:12 |
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lbt | gnuton: fixed a bug where v.quick taps not handled... | 12:14 |
gnuton | lbt: commit the patch :D | 12:18 |
gnuton | lbt: I'm a bit away.. I'm cooking.. | 12:18 |
lbt | really? | 12:18 |
lbt | you happy with it? | 12:18 |
gnuton | send me the patch :P | 12:19 |
gnuton | to check it before | 12:19 |
lbt | OK - there's things I want to tidy up.... if this was git I'd branch | 12:20 |
lbt | you may get a few versions in the email... | 12:20 |
lbt | ping me if/when you get time :) | 12:20 |
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GeneralAntilles | Having fun with WebKit, qwerty12? ;) | 13:06 |
qwerty12 | Indeed :/ ;) | 13:06 |
qwerty12 | Need to keep updating the Build-Dependencies it seems :/ | 13:06 |
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VDVsx | Morning, all | 13:21 |
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lcuk | mornin VDVsx | 13:33 |
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crashanddie | damnit | 13:38 |
crashanddie | Google App Enginer Version 0-5-20090325.332364965460189648 | 13:38 |
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crashanddie | I understand why most Google products are still in beta | 13:39 |
lopz | hi | 13:39 |
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lcuk | microsoft having problems with touchscreen gesture detection rates: http://tech.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=09/03/28/0252230 | 14:02 |
lcuk | lbt, good read ;) | 14:03 |
crashanddie | holy crap | 14:05 |
crashanddie | I need to do my expenses | 14:05 |
lbt | lcuk: ta | 14:05 |
crashanddie | looking at the receipts, there's £800 worth | 14:06 |
zeenix | crashanddie: why do i want to know that? :) | 14:06 |
crashanddie | zeenix, how about because you're part of a community, and a community also shares not-so-useful information such as what's happening in each other lives | 14:07 |
t_s_o | thats the problem, no. a human may guesstimate what someone is meaning based on own experiences and so on, while a computer just looks at parameters and tolerances... | 14:07 |
zeenix | crashanddie: well yes but your bills is hardly something i want to know about at least | 14:08 |
crashanddie | zeenix, you see, some people actually enjoy talking with others, not because they also share very interesting information, but also because they simply care, or not, but even if you don't, just close your eyes and click on the right hand corner X, we won't hate you for it | 14:08 |
zeenix | crashanddie: something very private, isn't it? | 14:08 |
crashanddie | not really | 14:08 |
crashanddie | it's expenses, not bills | 14:08 |
lcuk | its only a real community if i can add things to YOUR expense account | 14:08 |
t_s_o | :P | 14:08 |
qwerty12 | zeenix, if crashanddie's words upset you, /ignore | 14:08 |
zeenix | crashanddie: i didn't really object | 14:08 |
zeenix | crashanddie: notice the ":)" in my first message to you, i was hardly serious | 14:09 |
t_s_o | lcuk: income is private, expences are communal? | 14:09 |
Jaffa | We all get a share of crashanddie's reimbursement? Cool. | 14:09 |
crashanddie | haha lcuk... Told you'd I'd give you £50 if I keep borrow a couch :P | 14:09 |
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lcuk | my income is private, your expenses are communal | 14:09 |
crashanddie | s/keep/could/ | 14:09 |
infobot | crashanddie meant: haha lcuk... Told you'd I'd give you £50 if I could borrow a couch :P | 14:09 |
lcuk | you can borrow a couch, ill just move it into the back garden :D | 14:10 |
crashanddie | you'd ruin your couch for £50? Dayum, not sure I want to sleep on that | 14:10 |
lcuk | never said it was mine :D | 14:11 |
crashanddie | lcuk, I can actually do that btw, you know, stay over with friends/family and expense their costs? | 14:11 |
lcuk | get to know the hiltons | 14:11 |
crashanddie | yeah, but something tell's me hilton's running costs are about the same as my company's yearly tax | 14:12 |
crashanddie | s/'s/s/ | 14:12 |
infobot | crashanddie meant: yeah, but something tells me hilton's running costs are about the same as my company's yearly tax | 14:12 |
lcuk | its not the running costs as such, its the vet bills for paris's frontline | 14:12 |
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npatt0n | Does anyone no where I can get a tablet | 14:35 |
lcuk | chemist | 14:37 |
lcuk | npatt0n, can you get direct from nokia? | 14:37 |
npatt0n | well it's on backorder | 14:37 |
npatt0n | I ordered one from cdw but it's back ordered til next month | 14:38 |
GeneralAntilles | npatt0n, try buy.com? | 14:38 |
npatt0n | I was wondering if there was a place that had any in stock | 14:38 |
npatt0n | ok | 14:38 |
lcuk | Myrtti, how do i pronounce your name | 14:38 |
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npatt0n | thanks for the General Antillies | 14:40 |
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lcuk | bbl | 14:51 |
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ranjith | hi | 15:33 |
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darkblue_B | hello - what is the minimal thing I need to do to start a python script on system start on an N800 ? | 16:47 |
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VDVsx | darkblue_B, http://wiki.clug.org.za/wiki/How_GNU/Linux_start-up_scripts_work for e.g | 16:52 |
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GeneralAntilles | GNU/Linux is unfortunate in a URL | 17:01 |
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* qwerty12 apologises to mgedmin in advance for leeching all the logs of his server... | 17:03 | |
Stskeeps | yeah.. that's a lot of info there | 17:04 |
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RST38h | qwerty: Do you expect to find The Truth there? =) | 17:20 |
Stskeeps | so your ubuntu install worked, RST38h? | 17:20 |
RST38h | Sts: Seems to be working just fine, better than XP in fact | 17:20 |
qwerty12 | RST38h, lol | 17:20 |
qwerty12 | RST38h, that's a given ;P | 17:20 |
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qwerty12 | I decided to be decent. I didn't leech every log. Instead, I leeched the ones from after 15/09/08. Why? http://qwerty12.maemobox.org/irc/ (Newer version of http://outpo.st/irc/) | 17:22 |
Stskeeps | hehe | 17:22 |
Stskeeps | dear god | 17:22 |
Stskeeps | am i the line whore? | 17:23 |
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qwerty12 | This is just stats from 15/09/08-today | 17:23 |
Stskeeps | hehe | 17:23 |
GeneralAntilles | Haha | 17:24 |
GeneralAntilles | Stskeeps beat lcuk | 17:24 |
qwerty12 | Bah, I'll do a yearly one. I spoke less lines this time than in jott's one :P | 17:24 |
lcuk | thats only cos ive been doing more stuff outside of maemo :P | 17:24 |
lcuk | and cos kotzcarny wasnt on freenode to waffle to | 17:24 |
GeneralAntilles | Whoever wrote pisg needs to be stabbed. | 17:24 |
GeneralAntilles | He/She | 17:25 |
qwerty12 | ~stab pisg author | 17:25 |
* infobot runs at pisg author with an origami Swiss Army knife, and inflicts a nasty paper cut. | 17:25 | |
lcuk | ooooh Stskeeps you out-actioned me as well | 17:26 |
* lcuk will get his revenge | 17:26 | |
* lcuk kicks | 17:27 | |
* lcuk stomps | 17:27 | |
* lcuk throws toys out of the pram | 17:27 | |
qwerty12 | Those stats suck, I'm doing one for the year :P | 17:27 |
lcuk | yeah you are | 17:27 |
lcuk | ive got a whole swath here | 17:27 |
qwerty12 | If you really want to see the total lines, for now, add the number given in my stats to jott's | 17:28 |
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lcuk | "lcuk seems to be unliked too. He/She got beaten 5 times." | 17:28 |
lcuk | :( | 17:28 |
lcuk | thats all u that | 17:28 |
lcuk | qwerty you are a bully | 17:28 |
qwerty12 | ~bitchslap lcujk | 17:28 |
* infobot beats the sh*t out of lcujk | 17:28 | |
qwerty12 | ~bitchslap lcuk | 17:28 |
* infobot beats the sh*t out of lcuk | 17:28 | |
qwerty12 | Thanks | 17:29 |
* lcuk phones qwertys mum and tells on him | 17:29 | |
lbt | hmm, I'm glad my random quote wasnt a recent mis-speak from #c++ : I wanted to interfere as little as possible with the children | 17:29 |
qwerty12 | "Yes? Who is this qwerty fucker?" | 17:29 |
keesj | this ain't fantasy this it real irc . wake up | 17:29 |
keesj | you just can't go slapping around can you? | 17:30 |
Stskeeps | in uk maybe.. | 17:30 |
qwerty12 | *cough* happy slap *cough* | 17:30 |
lcuk | thankfully that was a fad quickly replaced by "jailtime" | 17:31 |
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lcuk | and the setting of a whole police division tasked with watching youtube all day | 17:32 |
lcuk | they need dangermoney! | 17:32 |
jaska | having to watch youtube videos all day? they must have high attrition and suicide rates | 17:32 |
lcuk | qwerty get those stats up, errrr stat | 17:32 |
qwerty12 | I'm waiting on wget to grab ~200 logs | 17:33 |
qwerty12 | My conscience is saying no to getting any more than that | 17:33 |
lcuk | from where? | 17:33 |
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lcuk | raw ones or processed html ones? | 17:34 |
qwerty12 | mgedmin's logs. Take of the .html and you get the raw log | 17:34 |
lcuk | cool | 17:34 |
lcuk | when has your conscience ever stopped you before ? | 17:34 |
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qwerty12 | I just saved his page and used find and replace and awk to print about ~866 direct links to logs in a text file | 17:34 |
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lcuk | lol | 17:35 |
qwerty12 | lcuk, "I just want you all to notice me and people to see that somewhere deep down, there's a decent human being in me - It just can't be found" | 17:35 |
lcuk | ive got a single xchat log from my first day in xchat | 17:35 |
qwerty12 | aww, that's so sweet | 17:36 |
qwerty12 | not | 17:36 |
* lcuk passes qwerty a cuppy of orange | 17:36 | |
lcuk | dont take the lid off it | 17:37 |
* qwerty12 kicks it around | 17:37 | |
qwerty12 | bloody hell... I swear the autobuilder is slower than my computer: https://garage.maemo.org/builder/diablo/webkit_1.0-svn41128-1maemo1/ ... | 17:37 |
Stskeeps | qwerty12: webkit is rather nasty | 17:37 |
qwerty12 | I should have set arch: armel :/... | 17:38 |
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qwerty12 | http://qwerty12.maemobox.org/irc/ <- that's better. Generated from 28/03/08 - 29/03/08 | 17:50 |
GeneralAntilles | Bitch! | 17:51 |
lcuk | i | 17:52 |
qwerty12 | hehe | 17:52 |
lcuk | need | 17:52 |
lcuk | to | 17:52 |
lcuk | make | 17:52 |
lcuk | up | 17:52 |
lcuk | 600 lines | 17:52 |
Stskeeps | heh | 17:52 |
Stskeeps | same effect in all irc channels when stats like that come up. line whoring. | 17:52 |
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lcuk | i didnt need to with jotts lol | 17:52 |
GeneralAntilles | qwerty12, now we just need karma for it. ;) | 17:53 |
* qwerty12 fucking kills Macer and ^Tux^ - how dare they fucking take the fucking swearing that should be fucking me. knobs! :P | 17:53 | |
qwerty12 | GeneralAntilles, hah, yeah | 17:53 |
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qwerty12 | s/me/mine/ | 17:53 |
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lcuk | lcuk spoke a total of 401272 words! | 17:54 |
qwerty12 | gobby northerner | 17:54 |
qwerty12 | :P | 17:54 |
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lcuk | lcuk always lets us know what he/she's doing: 2257 actions! | 17:55 |
lcuk | huzzah! | 17:55 |
lcuk | qwerty12, i wonder if you could do something else: aliases, find a nice way to merge all the various versions | 17:56 |
qwerty12 | I'm itching to do one from 2006 but I have a feeling that mgedmin will kick my ass | 17:57 |
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Stskeeps | how's the n810? | 18:30 |
luke-jr | sucks | 18:30 |
luke-jr | why did I get it? | 18:30 |
luke-jr | -.- | 18:30 |
Stskeeps | luke-jr: cos it's leet? :P | 18:30 |
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luke-jr | it's useless | 18:31 |
rmt | Stskeeps, Going well.. using it mostly for reading ebooks atm .. I discovered I like reading, just not carrying around books. :) And also for VOIP.. :-) | 18:31 |
Stskeeps | hehe, skype is excellent | 18:31 |
luke-jr | N810 demands internet to be useful | 18:31 |
luke-jr | and wireless is too broken | 18:31 |
luke-jr | never works | 18:32 |
Stskeeps | heh | 18:32 |
rmt | Stskeeps, Just using the built in SIP with smslisto.com .. same service I use for the landline in Italy. Will use Skype more for work, I think. | 18:32 |
luke-jr | WRT54G crashes every 5 minutes with WiFi and La Fonera usually just won't let me connect | 18:32 |
rmt | luke-jr, Your wlan router crashes with the N810? | 18:32 |
Stskeeps | la fonera is shite | 18:32 |
Stskeeps | :P | 18:32 |
GeneralAntilles | luke-jr, don't blame the device for broken routers. | 18:33 |
luke-jr | rmt: with any wireless | 18:33 |
Stskeeps | and crashes is a wide term | 18:33 |
luke-jr | GeneralAntilles: all routers are broken? | 18:33 |
GeneralAntilles | luke-jr, all the routers you're using, apparently. | 18:33 |
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GeneralAntilles | Or you've just plain ignored all the troubleshooting advice I've given you. | 18:33 |
luke-jr | or maybe OpenWrt? | 18:33 |
luke-jr | but there's not much for options | 18:33 |
rmt | So far I'm not really seeing issues .. (although I did have some issues two days in a row with my home router's wlan dying.. but since it was working fine for days before that, I'm assuming it's not related to the 810) | 18:33 |
luke-jr | DD-Wrt doesn't support IPv6 anymore | 18:33 |
Stskeeps | luke-jr: openwrt crashes on some chipsets for me on too much load | 18:34 |
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rmt | I currently have an InternetEverywhere device (GSM I guess.. or maybe WiMax) connected to my laptop.. and Ubuntu's NetworkManager Share Connection setup in Ad-Hoc mode, and the 810 using that.. | 18:34 |
rmt | SIP calls worked too, but occasionally were a little laggy | 18:35 |
luke-jr | :o | 18:35 |
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* rmt spent CHF 150 today on a 50% discount card for Switzerland .. travel is very expensive without it.. Still about twice the price of travel in Italy with it, I think. | 18:38 | |
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Stskeeps | 'lo jeremiah_ | 18:38 |
jeremiah_ | hello! | 18:38 |
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jeremiah_ | /c | 18:39 |
jeremiah_ | wha? | 18:39 |
rmt | 3 return trips to Zurich and a bus ticket and it will have paid for itself. | 18:39 |
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jeremiah_ | there we go, clean irssi window. :) | 18:39 |
Stskeeps | ;) | 18:39 |
Stskeeps | rmt: yeah, similar with youth cards in .dk. they pay themselves quite easily | 18:39 |
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jeremiah_ | hey qwerty :) | 18:45 |
qwerty12 | hi jeremiah :) | 18:45 |
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qwerty12 | huzzah! https://garage.maemo.org/builder/diablo/webkit_1.0-svn41128-1maemo1/armel.build.log.OK.txt | 18:53 |
qwerty12 | Now for the i386 build... | 18:53 |
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qwerty12 | I was always giving tips on what should be done to get it in extras, so I thought why not try it myself :P | 18:54 |
qwerty12 | Although I see my parallel make option didn't make it through, I'll reboot and see why - no wonder it's building at shit slow speeds | 18:55 |
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jeremiah_ | interesting to see if people do stuff with webkit. | 19:04 |
jeremiah_ | qwerty12_N800: Thanks for putting that in there. :) | 19:04 |
GeneralAntilles | There's stuff, we just gotta get 'em to get it in Extras. :\ | 19:05 |
qwerty12_N800 | jeremiah_: np :). hannesw & Bundyo are having a lot of fun with it :) | 19:06 |
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jeremiah_ | It would be useful if you could make it fast and small. | 19:14 |
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GAN800 | Blown transformer . . . fun fun | 19:23 |
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Stskeeps | GAN800: heh, city transformer so no power in the house? :P | 19:28 |
GAN800 | A single branch shorting one stupid transformer will take down half the grid | 19:29 |
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Stskeeps | lovely | 19:30 |
GAN800 | The hurricanes are actually a good thing in some ways since they end up forcing them to upgrade the infrastructure to something from the later half of the 20th century. ;) | 19:30 |
GAN800 | I haven't done a rundown test with the UPS and the router recently, let's see how the battery is holding up. | 19:31 |
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GAN800 | Faster response time than normal. | 19:34 |
Firebird | really? | 19:35 |
Stskeeps | GAN800: less lag on the cable(?) network, cos everyone else is off the grid? ;) | 19:35 |
GAN800 | Er, the utility company, Firebird. : | 19:35 |
GAN800 | P | 19:35 |
GAN800 | A couple cops moved into this complex a few weeks ago. That probably helps. | 19:36 |
Stskeeps | heh | 19:36 |
Stskeeps | and cops obviously never pirate.. :P | 19:37 |
qwerty12 | What do you take them for? :P | 19:37 |
GAN800 | Stskeeps, dunno, but they'll definitely call the dispatcher to send out a truck faster. ;) | 19:38 |
Stskeeps | hehe | 19:39 |
GAN800 | How the hell do I get nm to connect to a DUN connection. . . . | 19:40 |
qwerty12 | nm sucks, it barely works for connecting me to an AP... | 19:41 |
GAN800 | I can configure a connection. . . . | 19:42 |
GAN800 | Somebody should tell Nokia to open icd2 with the justification 'throw these lintards a bone' | 19:43 |
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Stskeeps | GAN800: i honestly think ICD2 may be nokia's strongest asset on mobile devices, heh | 19:45 |
qwerty12 | Stskeeps, nah, that award goes to browserd. *cough* | 19:46 |
GAN800 | Is 'mobile broadband' DUN or something more like MiniPCIe | 19:46 |
Stskeeps | GAN800: it's connect through a serial port | 19:46 |
Stskeeps | to a modem | 19:46 |
GAN800 | Ugh | 19:46 |
Stskeeps | BT DUN? nfi :P | 19:46 |
Stskeeps | blueman seems nice for this | 19:46 |
* GAN800 stabs Ubuntu repeatedly | 19:47 | |
Stskeeps | qwerty12: strongest asset as in that it actually makes most things more seamless than OSS solutions | 19:48 |
qwerty12 | Stskeeps, sarcasm | 19:48 |
Stskeeps | yes :P | 19:48 |
GAN800 | The Google results are now making me we to stab myself | 19:50 |
GAN800 | Ready for the desktop my ass | 19:50 |
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mavhc | is windows ready for the desktop? | 19:53 |
luke-jr | no way | 19:54 |
luke-jr | major usability issues | 19:54 |
luke-jr | GAN800: what do you mean>? | 19:54 |
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GAN800 | luke-jr, I mean trying to peddle this heaped pile of steamy mush to mainstream is a joke. | 19:56 |
luke-jr | GAN800: yeah, GNOME sucks | 19:56 |
luke-jr | better push Kubuntu | 19:56 |
luke-jr | but what "Google results"? | 19:56 |
GAN800 | mavhc, I don't know, I don't use Windows. | 19:57 |
GAN800 | luke-jr, apparently it's not possible to tether without first wasting hours of your life. | 19:58 |
GAN800 | Something I can do pain free in Maemo and OS X. | 19:58 |
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luke-jr | GAN800: oh, that's intentional I think ☺ | 19:59 |
GAN800 | Must be having more fun out there than I thought. 3 squad cars. | 20:00 |
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GAN800 | These brainstorm comments are just bizarre. | 20:14 |
Stskeeps | on ubuntu? | 20:15 |
GAN800 | Yes | 20:16 |
trofi | [: | 20:17 |
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v6sa | Hi | 20:20 |
v6sa | Luis here? | 20:20 |
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VDVsx | v6sa, which one ? :p | 20:23 |
v6sa | Luis Felipe? | 20:23 |
VDVsx | is lfelipe[AWAY] | 20:24 |
v6sa | thanks for the information | 20:25 |
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GAN800 | They aren't seriously telling me people put up with this silliness day-to-day. . . . | 20:40 |
* GAN800 thinks he's switching to OS X. | 20:40 | |
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qwerty12_N800 | Why not install & use the lovliness that is Windows? | 20:42 |
* GAN800 shoots qwerty12 with a tranq dart. | 20:42 | |
qwerty12_N800 | aii! OK, I take that back :P | 20:42 |
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Stskeeps | 'lo yerga | 20:43 |
yerga | hola! | 20:43 |
fireun | windows + lovliness = implosion | 20:43 |
Stskeeps | heh, any OS can screw up immensely | 20:44 |
fireun | they just have a history of it | 20:44 |
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Stskeeps | yeah - i think history should start at xp though | 20:45 |
Stskeeps | they did something right there | 20:45 |
fireun | bah | 20:45 |
fireun | you could argue NT in a similar fashion | 20:45 |
fireun | "marginalism" | 20:45 |
qwerty12_N800 | Sure. And start again with Vista. | 20:45 |
Stskeeps | pretty much not look at vista | 20:45 |
Stskeeps | :p | 20:45 |
GAN800 | The voting thread has gone way off into left field. | 20:46 |
yerga | qwerty12_N800, when you have webkit working, you should upload pywebkit :P | 20:46 |
Stskeeps | some truths are said in that thread, though | 20:46 |
fireun | in comparison, macos has had a steady record of increasing sanity | 20:47 |
fireun | linux we know to be somewhat autistic | 20:47 |
qwerty12_N800 | yerga: hehe, I'm not much of a python packager - why don't you go for it? :) | 20:47 |
yerga | qwerty12_N800, I haven't much time lately | 20:48 |
yerga | and today one hour less ;) | 20:49 |
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qwerty12_N800 | Ah :/, hannesw/hns has it already debianized - he says he'll request Extras upload permissions when libwebkit is there | 20:49 |
qwerty12_N800 | Hehe | 20:49 |
* RST38h says it for the record that the "history" should have stopped at CP/M-86 | 20:49 | |
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fireun | RST38h: ludite | 20:50 |
RST38h | That is "luddite", and I am not one | 20:50 |
GAN800 | Stskeeps, unfortunate it's surrounded by a lot of conspiracy-theory grade insanity. | 20:51 |
Stskeeps | GAN800: .. who is gene-ven anyway? | 20:51 |
RST38h | GAN: So, what is the conspiracy theory of the day? | 20:51 |
GAN800 | Stskeeps, oldtime itT member. | 20:52 |
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Stskeeps | ah | 20:52 |
RST38h | [sorry for asking but I am leaving for the airport in 10 minutes and won't be able to check itt] | 20:52 |
qwerty12_N800 | Stskeeps: Nokia mafia | 20:52 |
GAN800 | Basically he's been trolling and spewing bile in greater and greater amounts of the last two years. | 20:52 |
timelE61i | gan: wanna try getting osx tethering working w/ me -again :) | 20:52 |
GAN800 | RST38h, evil council overloads wanting to enslave and abuse the poor little users. | 20:52 |
GAN800 | s/loads/lords/ | 20:53 |
Stskeeps | GAN800: but it's true.. :( | 20:53 |
Stskeeps | ;( | 20:53 |
RST38h | GAN: Oh shit, do you also suck brains through straws? =) | 20:53 |
GAN800 | timelE61i, not until the power's back up. | 20:53 |
GAN800 | Stskeeps, nah, we just want to enslave you. Muahahaha! | 20:53 |
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GAN800 | RST38h, apparently, although I have no memory of it. | 20:54 |
* RST38h woudld be interested to know the exact mechanism of enslavement, in case he needs something like that later | 20:54 | |
qwerty12_N800 | and keep us on the beach? :P | 20:54 |
Stskeeps | RST38h: you work for intel don't you, don't you get taught that stuff? ;p | 20:54 |
timelE61i | sUre | 20:54 |
fireun | brain wave modulation using a wifi carrier | 20:54 |
RST38h | Alas, no network for the next 12 hours or so | 20:54 |
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RST38h | Sts: Naah, they started training in it starting with grade 12. | 20:55 |
RST38h | s/started/start | 20:55 |
timelE61i | on friday itunes ordered my ipod to delete all its music+apps | 20:55 |
GAN800 | Could Samsung have made their logo any bigger on their new netbooks? | 20:55 |
Stskeeps | timelE61i: skynet in the making | 20:55 |
RST38h | ttg | 20:56 |
Stskeeps | have a good flight | 20:56 |
RST38h | GAN: They would if they were LG =) | 20:56 |
RST38h | thanks | 20:56 |
GAN800 | Firefox fullscreen is broken. :( | 20:57 |
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GAN800 | Is there any way I can make this thing hide the cursor when scrolling? | 20:58 |
GAN800 | It's the little things that get you. :( | 21:01 |
Stskeeps | you're spoiled by good UI designers | 21:02 |
Stskeeps | :P | 21:02 |
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GAN800 | and OSes that, you know, work. | 21:02 |
timelE61i | heh | 21:02 |
Pavlov | you're in the wrong channel for those | 21:02 |
GAN800 | Pavlov, Maemo works. | 21:03 |
timelE61i | You need to pay a tax for working+usable | 21:03 |
GAN800 | Don't have any trouble with cursors or DUN in Maemo. | 21:03 |
timelE61i | Typically it's a hardware tax | 21:03 |
GAN800 | timelE61i, I paid something to Dell, I think. | 21:03 |
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timelE61i | Gan: indeed dun on maemo is the only place i've had where bt works | 21:04 |
GAN800 | There goes the UPS | 21:04 |
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Stskeeps | timelE61i: PAN is a godsend when you have a phone that does it | 21:04 |
timelE61i | You know my phone. Can it and osx get along? | 21:04 |
* qwerty12_N800 is a traditionalist: DUN all the way. | 21:04 | |
Stskeeps | timelE61i: i think i've either set that or N95 up for MacOS X once. it seemed trivial once you had the #99* (sp) stuff | 21:05 |
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timelE61i | it should be | 21:06 |
GAN800 | timelE61i, well, DUN works great for me on Leopard. | 21:06 |
timelE61i | But we tried the #+apn | 21:06 |
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timelE61i | btw, what's your natural disaster, and when is it scheduled to abate? | 21:08 |
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timelE61i | (it's snowing outside) | 21:10 |
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GAN800 | Variable intensity thunderstorms for the past 2 days | 21:10 |
GAN800 | (snow doesn't come here) | 21:10 |
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lcuk | timelE61i, could you keep the snow up there please, its threatening to come down here and spoil spring! | 21:11 |
timelE61i | Et-departure? | 21:12 |
atv | hi frendz , can sumbudy help me regarding gsoc project "Bluetooth audio speaker" ? | 21:12 |
GAN800 | Dunno, too lazy to open up weather.com in MicroB | 21:12 |
timelE61i | Lcuk: oh, our snow likes to last into may | 21:12 |
timelE61i | Atv: i gave you a nick on friday | 21:12 |
timelE61i | Did you ping him? | 21:12 |
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lcuk | yeah i know timelE61i i suppose it makes you a better driver | 21:15 |
lcuk | or at least more cautious | 21:15 |
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timelE61i | i've been a passenger in a car driven by a native | 21:16 |
lcuk | haha | 21:17 |
timelE61i | And i don't think it follows | 21:17 |
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timelE61i | Chicago, buffalo, sure | 21:17 |
timelE61i | Boston, native, probably | 21:17 |
timelE61i | Finn? No. | 21:17 |
timelE61i | * some finns are country finns, some are city finns, and some are female | 21:18 |
GAN800 | That's special. Downed oak tree, too. | 21:18 |
GAN800 | Power lines draped all over the parking lot. | 21:18 |
lcuk | you did right putting females in a class on their own ;) | 21:18 |
Stskeeps | finnish females are interesting | 21:19 |
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timelE61i | sadly, as w/ most of their gender, they can be enticing | 21:19 |
lcuk | i was merely talking about the driving aspects, its a worldwide phenominem | 21:19 |
timelE61i | They also aren't particularly attached to matrimony | 21:19 |
timelE61i | Heh | 21:19 |
lcuk | trolley parks and curbsides jump out from nowhere at them! | 21:19 |
timelE61i | heh | 21:20 |
* lcuk has no trim on the side of his car | 21:20 | |
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timelE61i | better than no hair on one side of your head ;) | 21:21 |
lcuk | nearly, she just slapped me! | 21:21 |
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timelE61i | I'm sure you deserved it... | 21:23 |
timelE61i | If only for ignoring her in favor of something shiny that she isn't wearing | 21:23 |
lcuk | thats pretty true | 21:23 |
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jaem | hey folks | 22:22 |
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Proteous | howdy | 22:26 |
jaem | does anybody now if the N810 works with WPA2/AES? I'm not getting any useful errors, but the connection consistently fails since my friend switched from TKIP | 22:27 |
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Proteous | I use my n810 with WPA2 AES | 22:30 |
Proteous | didn't do anything special | 22:30 |
jaem_afk | hrm ... that bears some looking into, then | 22:31 |
jaem_afk | thanks | 22:31 |
* jaem_afk is afk | 22:31 | |
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* VDVsx football time - Portugal Vs Sweden :p | 22:46 | |
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konttori__ | canola 2 code looks good! | 22:50 |
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timeless_mbp | konttori__: i need help w/ mac.nokia.com :) | 23:10 |
konttori__ | what is that? | 23:11 |
timeless_mbp | a gateway to a horribly confusing wiki | 23:12 |
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lfelipe | v6sa: hey | 23:14 |
lfelipe | VDVsx: saw your email, will go through them in a bit | 23:15 |
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Stskeeps | 'lo wazd | 23:52 |
wazd | Stskeeps: hey :) | 23:52 |
wazd | RST38h: moo, around? | 23:52 |
wazd | RST38h: http://s42.radikal.ru/i097/0903/e6/e38a0b07729c.png | 23:52 |
Stskeeps | wazd: he's out flying | 23:53 |
wazd | ah | 23:53 |
wazd | Stskeeps: how's mer?) | 23:53 |
Stskeeps | getting closer to 0.11 ui finals, testing week next week | 23:54 |
Stskeeps | http://bsd.tspre.org/~stskeeps/currentstate.png (we so need a better background for that.) | 23:54 |
Stskeeps | (that's a notification, btw) | 23:55 |
lcuk | does it pulse? | 23:55 |
Stskeeps | yeah | 23:55 |
Stskeeps | the icon | 23:55 |
Stskeeps | wazd: http://trac.tspre.org/meiz/screenshots/xephyr/ is some experiments Meiz did with different resolutions | 23:55 |
Stskeeps | (think it's an older version of theme) | 23:56 |
jaem_afk | wazd: any word on when the new ATI85 will be out? | 23:56 |
wazd | Stskeeps: woo :) | 23:57 |
lcuk | Stskeeps, i saw those and its great to have context | 23:57 |
wazd | jaem_afk: well, when it's done) | 23:57 |
jaem_afk | :P right | 23:57 |
wazd | jaem_afk: I think everything is ready and Marat is waiting for Ti82 and selection menu faceplate | 23:58 |
wazd | jaem_afk: that I'm at | 23:58 |
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jaem_afk | nice! | 23:58 |
jaem_afk | is linking support going to be in there in the future? | 23:58 |
jaem_afk | e.g. fake link to the NIT? | 23:58 |
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