| Stskeeps | sfdisk | 00:00 |
|---|---|---|
| b-man | here's the syntax; | ,, = empty | ,512,C = 512mb vfat | ,,L = the rest in linux83. | 00:01 |
| vandenoever | at maemo conference i saw an awesome note taking app, does anyone know the name? | 00:01 |
| Vulcanis | Yeah, I don't have either of those, so do you know where the package for that would be found? | 00:01 |
| qwerty12_N801 | vandenoever, liqbase | 00:01 |
| b-man | apt-get install e2fsprogs? | 00:01 |
| vandenoever | qwerty12_N801: that sounds right, installing now | 00:01 |
| qwerty12_N801 | Vulcanis, you have to be root to 'see' sfdisk | 00:02 |
| Vulcanis | well, apparently it cannot see it even then, so I guess the card is toasted. Ah well, back to my dual 8gbs | 00:03 |
| *** blade_runner has quit IRC | 00:03 | |
| *** setanta has quit IRC | 00:04 | |
| b-man | do you have a device called mmcblk1 or mmcblk0, try 'ls /dev' to see if you have those devices. | 00:04 |
| *** luck^ has quit IRC | 00:05 | |
| b-man | you shuld have them. | 00:05 |
| Vulcanis | only when valid cards are in | 00:06 |
| Vulcanis | er | 00:06 |
| Vulcanis | working ones | 00:06 |
| b-man | what kind of error did you encounter when trying to format them? | 00:07 |
| *** TrueJournals has quit IRC | 00:08 | |
| Vulcanis | B-man: it died in the middle of a format | 00:08 |
| Vulcanis | so thats probably part of it | 00:08 |
| *** hkBst has quit IRC | 00:09 | |
| lcuk | vandenoever, is that the one you remember? | 00:09 |
| Vulcanis | B-man: You mean now, or back when I was trying to format it? | 00:10 |
| Vulcanis | because right now it just doesn't recognize the card at all, I guess. | 00:10 |
| b-man | now and back would be nice. ;) | 00:10 |
| *** aloisiojr has quit IRC | 00:11 | |
| vandenoever | lcuk: yes it is, its cool | 00:11 |
| lcuk | :) | 00:12 |
| Stskeeps | gah.. ok. sapwood is officially driving me insane. i just found a DoS for it that will cause it to lock up with 100% | 00:12 |
| lcuk | lol Stskeeps your nemesis is better than you | 00:12 |
| Stskeeps | the itch to rewrite it -has- come up. | 00:12 |
| Vulcanis | b-man: No real error back then, it just locked up for more than an hour and I decided to just turn it off | 00:13 |
| *** wms has quit IRC | 00:13 | |
| vandenoever | are there any nice apps for doing logging of things like personal weight, gps bike route, what your doing, what your eating | 00:14 |
| vandenoever | preferably in some semantic form | 00:14 |
| b-man | Vakcanis; try this insmod /mnt/initfs/lib/modules/`uname -r`/mbcache.ko; insmod /mnt/initfs/lib/modules/`uname -r`/ext2.ko; insmod /mnt/initfs/lib/modules/`uname -r`/jbd.ko; insmod /mnt/initfs/lib/modules/`uname -r`/ext3.ko | 00:14 |
| b-man | and see if that helps. | 00:15 |
| lcuk | vandenoever, how would it know your weight or your diet? | 00:15 |
| vandenoever | lcuk: i'd type it | 00:16 |
| vandenoever | lcuk: i'd want something simple like google base to enter recurring datatypes | 00:16 |
| lcuk | i was thinking standing on it like a wii fit and using the pressure reading ;) | 00:16 |
| vandenoever | lcuk: :-) | 00:16 |
| *** TokyoDan has joined #maemo | 00:17 | |
| lcuk | thats not too far from where i want liqbase, but for now lemme just see - ive spotted something recently | 00:17 |
| vandenoever | lcuk: actually, i was thinking that the next thing people will add to mobile phones is allow them to work like scales | 00:17 |
| vandenoever | (small ones for cooking) | 00:17 |
| vandenoever | also recording temperature should go in | 00:17 |
| *** simboss has quit IRC | 00:17 | |
| *** TokyoDan has left #maemo | 00:17 | |
| *** simboss has joined #maemo | 00:17 | |
| Stskeeps | GAN8001: where do you send security sensitive bugs? :P | 00:17 |
| Stskeeps | .. probably not a very serious one | 00:18 |
| *** MoRpHeUz has quit IRC | 00:21 | |
| *** herz1 has quit IRC | 00:21 | |
| lcuk | found it! | 00:23 |
| lcuk | vandenoever, http://www.internettablettalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=24790 :) | 00:23 |
| lcuk | might not be perfect, but sounds like what you are aiming for | 00:23 |
| LinuxCode | hey lcuk | 00:23 |
| lcuk | hi there lc :) how goes the wanderer | 00:23 |
| Vulcanis | Well, b-man, I ran it once, it crashed SSH, now run it and get | 00:24 |
| LinuxCode | good...im in Germany atm | 00:24 |
| Vulcanis | insmod: cannot insert '/mnt/initfs/lib/modules/2.6.21-omap1/mbcache.ko': File exists (-1): File exists | 00:24 |
| Vulcanis | insmod: cannot insert '/mnt/initfs/lib/modules/2.6.21-omap1/ext2.ko': File exists (-1): File exists | 00:24 |
| Vulcanis | insmod: cannot insert '/mnt/initfs/lib/modules/2.6.21-omap1/jbd.ko': File exists (-1): File exists | 00:24 |
| Vulcanis | insmod: cannot insert '/mnt/initfs/lib/modules/2.6.21-omap1/ext3.ko': File exists (-1): File exists | 00:24 |
| LinuxCode | how you mate ? | 00:24 |
| Vulcanis | sorry for pastespam | 00:24 |
| lcuk | tired but comfortable :) | 00:24 |
| LinuxCode | i second that | 00:24 |
| lcuk | Vulcanis, you will be \@/ | 00:24 |
| qwerty12_N801 | Stskeeps, http://maemo.org/community/security/ | 00:25 |
| lcuk | so lc, did they kick you out of the UK or did you go of your own volition? | 00:25 |
| *** ssvb has joined #maemo | 00:25 | |
| Stskeeps | qwerty12_N801: .. think i'll just submit it on bugs.*, i doubt it can do any harm | 00:25 |
| lcuk | Stskeeps, to report security sensitive bugs you must first obtain the IP address of quims personal n9x0, use the exploit to hack into it, and leave him a big warning message on his screen | 00:26 |
| Stskeeps | hehe | 00:26 |
| b-man | lol | 00:27 |
| Stskeeps | GAN8001: bugs.* has 2008.43-7 as 4.1.3 btw | 00:27 |
| *** sven-tek has quit IRC | 00:27 | |
| *** pH5 has quit IRC | 00:31 | |
| * lardman considers how much difference there is between how good/bad tracks sound with sbc | 00:32 | |
| Stskeeps | https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3939 | 00:32 |
| Stskeeps | simple fix, really, but.. | 00:33 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 00:33 |
| ssvb | lardman: what about the difference? | 00:33 |
| *** bilboed has quit IRC | 00:34 | |
| lardman | some tracks sound ok, some sound very poor | 00:34 |
| lardman | ssvb: did you get my email? I've not checked my account for a while | 00:35 |
| *** bergie has quit IRC | 00:36 | |
| ssvb | lardman: I guess not yet | 00:36 |
| lardman | hmm, was about some of the #defines in your patch | 00:36 |
| lardman | "sbc_tables.h", line 364: error: floating-point value does not fit in required integral type | 00:38 |
| lardman | here are the defines: http://pastebin.com/m3a96a69e | 00:39 |
| lardman | when I try to compile, the compiler chokes on values of F(1.0000) | 00:39 |
| lardman | sizeof(FIXED_T)=1, CHAR_BITS=16 | 00:39 |
| lardman | so it expands to this: (int16)((1.0000)*((int32)1<<15)+0.5) | 00:39 |
| lardman | and 1<<15 is too large to fit in a signed 16bit typr | 00:40 |
| lardman | s/typr/type | 00:40 |
| lardman | also, interestingly, the 16bit code is slower than the original (original as in the new filterbank + various patches from the list, but 32bit in/out + 16bit coeffs) | 00:41 |
| lardman | though the 16bit code still uses a 32bit out with 16bit in/coeffs | 00:42 |
| *** chmac is now known as chmac_away | 00:42 | |
| *** geaaru has quit IRC | 00:43 | |
| * vandenoever wonders how often people in this forum say that it is time to kick ass and chew bubble gum | 00:45 | |
| vandenoever | because i've got a strong urge to say just that | 00:45 |
| Stskeeps | lardman: have you encountered strange happenings of unsigned shorts (16) -> integer conversions on armv5/770? | 00:46 |
| Stskeeps | 16 bit, that is | 00:46 |
| Stskeeps | cos we've seen them on two platforms now | 00:46 |
| lardman | I've not been looking I'm afraid, I'm talking about the DSP | 00:46 |
| lcuk | lardman, you cant use the sign bit for your shifted results | 00:46 |
| Stskeeps | lardman: yeah, sorry, it was an unrelated problem to the DSP stuff | 00:47 |
| lardman | apparently not, at least not in my compiler | 00:47 |
| lardman | Stskeeps: sorry :) | 00:47 |
| lcuk | merely drop a bit in the shifting? | 00:47 |
| lardman | I just wanted to check with ssvb as to what he was wanting to happen in the patch before fiddling | 00:48 |
| mavhc | why can't I see this new ssu in the app manager? | 00:48 |
| *** chenca has quit IRC | 00:49 | |
| *** mike_xcr has joined #maemo | 00:51 | |
| Vulcanis | mavhc: check if your repos are diablo... I had problems until I went through and changed that | 00:51 |
| mike_xcr | hi all | 00:51 |
| lcuk | lardman, fair enough, i remember all this stuff from the fractint shifted ints library ;) | 00:51 |
| mike_xcr | i got problem... | 00:51 |
| mike_xcr | i load e17 to my n800... | 00:51 |
| mike_xcr | and i can't run this | 00:51 |
| mike_xcr | :( | 00:51 |
| lardman | lcuk: I've just tried listening to some other songs, and sbc encoded is pretty awful | 00:51 |
| lardman | lcuk: much work yet to be done | 00:51 |
| lcuk | whats wrong with it? have you sorted the speed yet? | 00:52 |
| lcuk | theres always work to be done :) | 00:52 |
| lardman | well I'm getting pitch variations, which is probably do to with speed | 00:52 |
| lardman | though I'm not sure it's a problem on the dsp, probably on the arm | 00:52 |
| lardman | as it happens with all the flavours of dsp task I have | 00:53 |
| lcuk | thats not good, have you tried sending test signal notes through it | 00:54 |
| lcuk | to see if theres a pattern to the variation or if its just wrong | 00:54 |
| lardman | no, I need to write a version of sbcenc which takes something other than BE pcm data and try that | 00:54 |
| lcuk | or you need to create some pcm data yourself | 00:55 |
| lardman | yeah, just bigendian is a pita | 00:55 |
| *** cyrus__ has joined #maemo | 00:55 | |
| *** qwerty12_N801 has quit IRC | 00:56 | |
| cyrus__ | Does the N800 and N810 use the same MMC driver? | 00:56 |
| lardman | though I've been meaning to look at the gstreamer component to see if I could easily encode mp3 say and send it to file | 00:56 |
| *** croppa has quit IRC | 00:56 | |
| *** b-man has quit IRC | 00:56 | |
| *** b-man has joined #maemo | 00:56 | |
| *** croppa has joined #maemo | 00:56 | |
| lcuk | lardman, you should be able to use gstreamer quite easily | 00:58 |
| lcuk | that is afterall what its there for | 00:58 |
| lardman | hmm, we'll see ;) | 00:58 |
| GAN8001 | Stskeeps, dunno. | 00:58 |
| GAN8001 | Hang on | 00:59 |
| GAN8001 | Stskeeps, http://maemo.org/community/security/ | 00:59 |
| GAN8001 | Stskeeps, 4.1.3 is correct | 00:59 |
| Stskeeps | yeah, ok, too late :P | 00:59 |
| Stskeeps | reported to bugs.*, it's not a outside-dos bug so | 00:59 |
| GAN8001 | Just because Nokia's being a bitch about syncing the SDK and Maemo versioning. . . . | 01:00 |
| lardman | where does gst-launch live? | 01:00 |
| GAN8001 | Stskeeps, johnx can confirm it? | 01:00 |
| Stskeeps | GAN8001: it's a logic bug and proven in source | 01:01 |
| GAN8001 | Stskeeps, OK, I'll set it NEW then | 01:01 |
| Stskeeps | i can write up a mathematical proof for it if you'd like.. | 01:01 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 01:01 |
| *** born2wonder has joined #maemo | 01:01 | |
| GAN8001 | Stskeeps, do you want editbugs/canconfirm? | 01:02 |
| lcuk | back later, got stuff to do | 01:02 |
| Stskeeps | GAN8001: not really yet, no | 01:02 |
| GAN8001 | How about canconfirm at least? | 01:02 |
| *** hfwilke has quit IRC | 01:02 | |
| lardman | hmm, file is here: http://repository.maemo.org/pool/maemo4.1.2/free/g/gstreamer0.10/gstreamer-tools_0.10.13-0osso13~diablo1_armel.deb | 01:02 |
| Stskeeps | i don't trust my own bug reports | 01:02 |
| lardman | how do I install it using apt-get? | 01:02 |
| Stskeeps | tools repo? :P | 01:03 |
| Stskeeps | or sdk | 01:03 |
| GAN8001 | Stskeeps, sure, but you might be able to confirm others'. :P | 01:03 |
| *** matt_c has quit IRC | 01:03 | |
| *** housetier has quit IRC | 01:04 | |
| born2wonder | hi, i just got some free time now and willing to run mer on my n810 instead of deblet, any advice where i can get started (a rootfs maybe) | 01:04 |
| *** matt_c has joined #maemo | 01:05 | |
| *** flavioribeiro has quit IRC | 01:06 | |
| lardman | ssvb: any thoughts? | 01:06 |
| born2wonder | I checked on the mer site (blueprints and stuff) but couldnt find links to anything. | 01:07 |
| *** matt_c has quit IRC | 01:07 | |
| *** Free_maN has quit IRC | 01:08 | |
| lardman | hmm, looks like I need to compile gstreamer-mad | 01:09 |
| *** chmac_away is now known as chmac | 01:12 | |
| *** lmoura has joined #maemo | 01:12 | |
| Stskeeps | born2wonder: we're finishing up the installer and will be providing images soon | 01:14 |
| *** eichi has quit IRC | 01:17 | |
| born2wonder | Stskeeps: Thanks for the reassurance, thanks for all the great work people! deblet felt right at home, being a zaurus user (running debian) and ubuntu on desktops, cant wait for the successor! | 01:17 |
| Stskeeps | born2wonder: .. we just had mer running on zaurus ;) | 01:18 |
| *** alextreme has quit IRC | 01:18 | |
| Stskeeps | (eabi) | 01:18 |
| Stskeeps | johnx in here has one too so | 01:19 |
| born2wonder | lol, i guess its time for my zaurus to get a little attention ( i just got the n810 recently) | 01:20 |
| born2wonder | yah i had debian eabi ,ran well enough but deblet on n810 was way faster and smoother | 01:20 |
| born2wonder | eabi on z | 01:20 |
| Stskeeps | *nod* | 01:20 |
| Stskeeps | born2wonder: basically just hang around in here and you'll probably be drafted to test some stuff :P | 01:21 |
| born2wonder | :-) , i am not leaving thic channel from now on. just finished uni finals today | 01:22 |
| *** mike_xcr has left #maemo | 01:22 | |
| Stskeeps | hehe | 01:22 |
| Stskeeps | but before getting hopes up, there are interesting possibilities with mer right now, but they're in no way polished. your best tools are a usb cable and knowing how to pop battery :P | 01:23 |
| lcuk | born2wonder, what about when you need the toilet? | 01:24 |
| born2wonder | n810/zaurus/p1510 (fav laptop) | 01:24 |
| born2wonder | love the mobility | 01:24 |
| lcuk | please mark yourself as away when you are ummm busy | 01:25 |
| born2wonder | i go by the saying: if it aint broke, then break it and try to fix it... so usb cable and pop battery are essentials in my gadgets | 01:26 |
| lardman | ssvb: you still about? | 01:26 |
| lardman | ssvb: in your bitpacking patch, using the #defines, was there any particular reason why you waited for >=32bits of data before writing it? | 01:27 |
| *** fab__ has quit IRC | 01:27 | |
| born2wonder | by the way, is the stlc45xx driver gonna be used in mer? | 01:28 |
| ssvb | lardman: about http://pastebin.com/m3a96a69e, the compiler is right because 1 << 15 does not fit into a signed 16-bit value | 01:28 |
| lardman | ssvb: was that by design? | 01:29 |
| Stskeeps | born2wonder: eventually - we have people with working 2.6.28-rcsomething so | 01:29 |
| ssvb | what exactly? | 01:29 |
| lardman | the fact it doesn't fit :) | 01:29 |
| Stskeeps | born2wonder: still some quirks to be ironed out regarding distribution of firmware bits though | 01:29 |
| *** StsN800 has joined #maemo | 01:30 | |
| ssvb | lardman: yes, because it would get the high order bit set and turn the value into negative, which is not what we expect | 01:30 |
| ssvb | this 1.0 constant is a special case, it is handled by a shift instead of multiplication in the filter function | 01:31 |
| lardman | ssvb: I meant, did you mean to change the sign of the value when converting it? | 01:31 |
| *** DHR has quit IRC | 01:31 | |
| born2wonder | thanks, cant wait for the n810 to be a powerfull network auditing system (without usb adapter/hub). | 01:31 |
| ssvb | lardman: this value from the table is not used anyway | 01:32 |
| lardman | ssvb: this is true, as the 12th entry is unneeded | 01:32 |
| born2wonder | Hoping to work in that field one day | 01:32 |
| ssvb | you can try to use something like (int16_t)(int32_t)... to shut up the compiler :) | 01:32 |
| lardman | ok, so your compiler allowed that, while mine doesn't then | 01:32 |
| lardman | or indeed put any value in there | 01:32 |
| * lardman has a quick look at the code to check | 01:33 | |
| ssvb | about the performance, the function still requires some optimizations to reduce the number of operations | 01:34 |
| ssvb | even if 16-bit multiplications are faster, there are more of them right now | 01:34 |
| ssvb | also checking disassembly output may help | 01:35 |
| *** chelli has quit IRC | 01:35 | |
| *** lele has quit IRC | 01:35 | |
| ssvb | we need to be really sure that the compiler generates the right instructions here | 01:35 |
| ssvb | for example, there might make sense to change the accumulator value to 40-bit type | 01:36 |
| ssvb | or something like this | 01:36 |
| lardman | yeah well the 16x16->32 doesn't seem to be faster than 32x16->32 | 01:36 |
| *** gentooer has joined #maemo | 01:37 | |
| *** melmoth has joined #maemo | 01:37 | |
| lardman | ssvb: well the good news is your patch works, thanks :) | 01:38 |
| lardman | and it sounds good too | 01:39 |
| mavhc | people have been optimising ARM code for years | 01:41 |
| ssvb | lardman: I'm going to optimized SBC for ARM, it should get quite fast there | 01:43 |
| lardman | cool | 01:43 |
| *** b-man has quit IRC | 01:43 | |
| ssvb | at least I know that 16-bit multiplications are definitely faster there | 01:43 |
| lardman | I'll do some more for the dsp, learning along the way | 01:43 |
| lardman | I'll have to do some tests, no timers enabled on the dsp so hard to time things | 01:44 |
| lardman | I also don't know how much of the pitch variation is to do with sbc or the arm-side wrapper | 01:44 |
| ssvb | also I guess bitstream writer can be quite fast on C55x because it is big endian | 01:44 |
| lardman | hmm, it's mixed endian isn't it | 01:45 |
| lardman | certainly in the mode it runs in atm it's littleendian for 16bit types and mixed for 32bit | 01:45 |
| ssvb | from the DSP side it is fully big endian unless I'm missing something | 01:45 |
| ssvb | or wait, you might be right | 01:46 |
| *** housetier has joined #maemo | 01:46 | |
| lardman | it might be possible to change the addressing mode or something, I don't know | 01:46 |
| *** hellwolf has quit IRC | 01:46 | |
| *** zakkm has joined #maemo | 01:47 | |
| zakkm | does Nitdroid work on the N800 yet | 01:47 |
| ssvb | lardman: yes, I remember reading something about changing endianness on the fly in the memory controller | 01:47 |
| zakkm | according to nitdroid page it got a update supporting n800? | 01:48 |
| lardman | ssvb: good good, so neither of us is going mad :) | 01:48 |
| *** mib_hoolagin has joined #maemo | 01:49 | |
| mib_hoolagin | Hello is there anyone available to help me with a relatively simple issue? | 01:49 |
| zakkm | NITdroid is working on N800 devices now at the same level as the original N810. | 01:49 |
| zakkm | By solca to #NITdroid 1 day, 2 hours ago. Add Comment | 01:49 |
| zakkm | does that mean it would work well on my n800 now? | 01:49 |
| *** datachaos has joined #maemo | 01:50 | |
| mib_hoolagin | I have an n810 and i just updated to the new os2008 diablo and I am having a problem with installations; when i try to install an ap it doesn't give me the option i used to get with the earlier version of maemo to choose an alternate location for the files | 01:51 |
| *** lele has joined #maemo | 01:52 | |
| dick-richardson | some aren't for me, either...just go to control panel --> panels --> organize and move them where you want them | 01:52 |
| *** Grackle has quit IRC | 01:52 | |
| mib_hoolagin | thats not the directory i meant, thats more the for the launcher, i meant the actual placement of files | 01:53 |
| dick-richardson | not sure then | 01:53 |
| mib_hoolagin | when I install something it asks me where to install to and it gives me the launcher's folders. | 01:53 |
| mib_hoolagin | before it used to ask where I wanted to install the files | 01:53 |
| lcuk | and where did you used to install the files to? | 01:54 |
| mib_hoolagin | the 256 mb storage quickly fills up if I can't use the internal 2GB or an external card | 01:54 |
| mib_hoolagin | i used to install them to the internal 2GB storage | 01:54 |
| born2wonder | AFAIK, the only solution is using the script at itt to clone os to card | 01:54 |
| mib_hoolagin | rather than the 256 mb storage | 01:54 |
| mib_hoolagin | clone the os to card? | 01:55 |
| born2wonder | then u will will get a more capable 2gb filesystem partition (less (1.6g) after swap and optional fat32) | 01:55 |
| lcuk | i understand the problem, but ive not heard of a solution like you are suggesting used to happen | 01:55 |
| born2wonder | let me check the forums | 01:55 |
| mib_hoolagin | thanks | 01:55 |
| lardman | ssvb: 16bit version of your filter has lots of high pitch harmonics | 01:56 |
| mib_hoolagin | i believe the older version allowed to install programs to alternate drives like desktop os's do | 01:56 |
| lardman | s/harmonics/artifacts | 01:56 |
| zakkm | lcuk: would a p3 933mhz debian *server* help mer development or well anything maemo? | 01:56 |
| mib_hoolagin | okay i gotta go | 01:57 |
| born2wonder | http://www.internettablettalk.com/forums/showthread.php?p=165586 | 01:57 |
| *** vandenoever has quit IRC | 01:57 | |
| lcuk | i dunno zakkm, speak to Stskeeps | 01:57 |
| zakkm | ok | 01:57 |
| born2wonder | clone to os site:internettablettalk.com is a good google search to get results better than built in foruum search | 01:57 |
| mib_hoolagin | ok thanks | 01:58 |
| *** mib_hoolagin has quit IRC | 01:58 | |
| *** redcomet1 has joined #maemo | 01:58 | |
| ssvb | lardman: is it in any way different from the other variants of the filter function? | 01:58 |
| mavhc | it's crazy you need to do all that, I'd have thought a symlink would be easier | 01:58 |
| lardman | ssvb: I don;t think so, just that it's 16x16->32 (i.e. T is the only 32bit var) | 01:59 |
| born2wonder | yah i remeber i ran a script that automated the whole thing but just gave him the first google like assuming that wa s it. i dont remeber who made it but should be easy to find | 01:59 |
| *** zakkm has quit IRC | 02:00 | |
| lardman | ah sorry, my fault, that's the previous filter, let me try again | 02:00 |
| lardman | ssvb: which of T1/T2 were you saying you thought could go 16bit? both? | 02:01 |
| lardman | t1 won't be any larger than the input, which is 16 bit, so that's ok | 02:01 |
| lardman | ah, but then the mac | 02:02 |
| lcuk | mmmm shell question: if i have a script and i want it to change the current directory when it leaves the script how do i do it? | 02:05 |
| lcuk | ive tried with just a cd xyz line in the script itself but when the script terminates the actual path remains the same | 02:06 |
| lardman | ssvb: ok, sounds ok with everything 16bit | 02:06 |
| *** hellwolf-n810 has joined #maemo | 02:07 | |
| lcuk | lardman, audio is very subjective ;) you need to start with double blind tests | 02:07 |
| *** redcomet has quit IRC | 02:07 | |
| ssvb | lardman: t1 should be 32-bit (or 40-bit) because it is used as accumulator, t2 can be 16-bit because it contains scaled down values that should fit it | 02:07 |
| ssvb | lcuk: there are also objective tests which can detect obvious problems | 02:08 |
| lardman | ooh, some artifacts though | 02:08 |
| lardman | I'll change t1 back to 32bit and see | 02:08 |
| *** zakkm has joined #maemo | 02:08 | |
| ssvb | t1 *must* be 32-bit at least | 02:08 |
| lcuk | oh yeah ssvb, but we know lardman is a perfectionist ;) | 02:09 |
| zakkm | anyone here been sucessful in installing nitdroid on n800? | 02:09 |
| *** redcomet has joined #maemo | 02:09 | |
| lardman | ok, with 32bit t1 I still get occasional artifacts | 02:09 |
| lardman | I'm passing my output as 16bit | 02:10 |
| ssvb | lardman: it does not have effect on the use of 16-bit multiplication instructions as it is only used as destination operand | 02:10 |
| lardman | yep | 02:10 |
| lardman | ah, I've also changed the intermediate sample buffers to 16bit, I suppose they should be 32bit too? | 02:10 |
| *** gentooer has quit IRC | 02:11 | |
| ssvb | which ones? | 02:11 |
| lardman | sbc_frame->sb_sample_f | 02:11 |
| ssvb | these should be 32-bit too | 02:11 |
| lardman | it actually doesn't sound bad with them 16bit; with some overflow prevention it might be ok | 02:12 |
| ssvb | because they don't always fit 16 bit | 02:12 |
| StsN800 | zakkm, re 900mhz it will run mer;) | 02:12 |
| ssvb | lardman: but you don't gain anything from converting them to 16 bit | 02:12 |
| ssvb | on the quantizing stage, it is multiplied by a value that also does not always fit 16-bit | 02:13 |
| lardman | no, that's ok | 02:13 |
| zakkm | StsN800: i was referring to making a server for mer development | 02:14 |
| zakkm | StsN800: my brother handed me a "throwout" 933mhz p3 the other day | 02:14 |
| zakkm | well yesterday. | 02:15 |
| lardman | ssvb: but the encoder state X is ok as 16bit? | 02:15 |
| zakkm | has a 10gb harddrive but i could network share as much space as you want with it | 02:15 |
| ssvb | lardman: doing saturation will distort sound, sb_sample_f are expected not to always fit 16-bit and if you cut them off, you will get worse audio quality | 02:15 |
| ssvb | lardman: X are perfectly fine as 16 bit | 02:15 |
| lardman | yep, fine | 02:15 |
| lardman | cool | 02:15 |
| StsN800 | zakkm, mm - we kinda hope to get needs covered by maemo.org, - but we will prolly need people testing/playing with mer/x86 | 02:16 |
| zakkm | oh | 02:16 |
| zakkm | some other purpose then? other than mer? i just thought that was the big project now so i mentioned it | 02:16 |
| zakkm | id love to test mer xd | 02:16 |
| StsN800 | soon people will be able to:P | 02:17 |
| *** gentooer has joined #maemo | 02:18 | |
| StsN800 | zakkm, http://www.daimi.au.dk/~cvm/DSC00007.JPG | 02:19 |
| StsN800 | mer x86 on tv out;) | 02:19 |
| ssvb | lardman: I also remember that there must be some trick used to utilize dual multiplier | 02:20 |
| ssvb | lardman: like all the operands in DARAM | 02:20 |
| lardman | yeah, but on different pages preferably | 02:21 |
| zakkm | StsN800: is mer more minimalistic than maemo? | 02:21 |
| zakkm | in the ram usage sense? | 02:21 |
| born2wonder | stsN800, i can do some basic testing for mer x86 | 02:21 |
| *** redcomet1 has quit IRC | 02:21 | |
| StsN800 | zakkm, i think maemo is more minimalistic | 02:22 |
| StsN800 | born2wonder, hehe, alright. will keep in mind | 02:22 |
| zakkm | stsN800: did you try nitdroid on the n800? | 02:22 |
| *** zap has quit IRC | 02:22 | |
| StsN800 | zakkm, helped a bit with advice, other than | 02:23 |
| *** redcomet1 has joined #maemo | 02:23 | |
| lardman | ssvb: so the tables do repeat, so there's scope for dual MAC | 02:23 |
| StsN800 | that im not terribly interested | 02:23 |
| * GAN8001 doesn't get the appeal. | 02:24 | |
| johnx | StsN800, mind if I disconnect the zaurus? | 02:24 |
| GAN8001 | Though, admittedly, I don't get the appeal of a lot of things. :P | 02:24 |
| StsN800 | johnx, go ahead | 02:24 |
| zakkm | am i suppose to chmod +x flasher-3.0? | 02:24 |
| ssvb | lardman: spru376 has some guidelines about 'Efficient Use of MAC hardware' | 02:24 |
| GAN8001 | zakkm, if you're planning on executing it. . . . | 02:24 |
| zakkm | k | 02:24 |
| zakkm | i just keep screwing up nitdroid install.. so i thought that was to blame -.- | 02:25 |
| StsN800 | johnx, fucky short->int conversions happen on 770 too | 02:25 |
| GAN8001 | "fucky" | 02:25 |
| GAN8001 | ehehe | 02:25 |
| lardman | ssvb: yeah, I'm reading the bit about if branching atm | 02:25 |
| zakkm | odd i know but i cant figure out what i keep doing wrong | 02:25 |
| lardman | ssvb: I'll have a look at arranging the coefficients to enable some dual mac tomorrow | 02:26 |
| StsN800 | GAN800, it puts the result in previous memory cell and puts garbage in the next 3.. | 02:26 |
| lardman | bed now though, night all | 02:26 |
| *** lardman has quit IRC | 02:26 | |
| StsN800 | so, fucky is a good term:p | 02:27 |
| *** gentooer has quit IRC | 02:27 | |
| *** born2wonder has quit IRC | 02:27 | |
| *** born2wonder has joined #maemo | 02:28 | |
| *** Kl0r has joined #maemo | 02:28 | |
| StsN800 | johnx, now that i've given your zaurus new purpose, will you fix tslib&omapfb? ;) | 02:28 |
| *** gentooer has joined #maemo | 02:29 | |
| *** alextreme has joined #maemo | 02:30 | |
| *** lele has quit IRC | 02:31 | |
| born2wonder | long live the zaurus ;-) | 02:34 |
| *** lele has joined #maemo | 02:34 | |
| *** hannesw has quit IRC | 02:35 | |
| *** CiroipN810 has quit IRC | 02:35 | |
| zakkm | how much is the zaurus? | 02:36 |
| born2wonder | depends on model and source | 02:37 |
| zakkm | average | 02:37 |
| zakkm | one that would be decent | 02:37 |
| born2wonder | i got a c1000 that cost about 400 a while back | 02:37 |
| zakkm | http://www.ma.utexas.edu/users/voloch/Hall/zaurus4.jpg | 02:37 |
| zakkm | like that one | 02:37 |
| born2wonder | i would recommend the 3100 or 3200 as they have an extra internal microdrive than can be replaced with a CF card | 02:39 |
| *** redcomet has quit IRC | 02:39 | |
| born2wonder | then u'll have the sd and external compact flash available for wifi/storage/dualboot expansions | 02:40 |
| StsN800 | bbl sleep | 02:41 |
| dick-richardson | is there any reason to run in red-pill mode? | 02:41 |
| dick-richardson | ...anymore | 02:41 |
| *** simboss has quit IRC | 02:42 | |
| born2wonder | was needed for root but not needed anymore for the avg end user AFAIK, not sure though | 02:42 |
| born2wonder | regarding red pill mode | 02:42 |
| dick-richardson | that's what I've kinda seen...I got root, etc. w/o it | 02:42 |
| dick-richardson | ssu updates don't require it, do they? | 02:43 |
| born2wonder | never enabled it myself as i went for debian as soon as i got my nit | 02:43 |
| born2wonder | no they dont | 02:43 |
| born2wonder | deblet to be exact | 02:43 |
| *** redcomet has joined #maemo | 02:44 | |
| born2wonder | apt-get on mobile devices is just awesome | 02:44 |
| dick-richardson | yes...makes more sense than these app stores that keep coming out..ie Palm, Android, iPhone, etc. | 02:45 |
| dick-richardson | of course, it doesn't have a real business model for pay-for software...but you can sell .deb's I guess | 02:45 |
| born2wonder | not tryin to start a flame war but i sold my 16g iphone to my sister so as to buy the n810 .debian based devices are way more interesting to me than a few good games | 02:48 |
| zakkm | anyone how how to fix the reboot loop on nitdroid? | 02:48 |
| Vulcanis | is deblet fastish now? | 02:49 |
| *** Vulcanis has quit IRC | 02:50 | |
| born2wonder | i run deblet with nit-env-gnome and my own customizations. it exceeded my expectations in speed and useability | 02:50 |
| born2wonder | maybe ive just been using debian on my zaurus for too long ;-) | 02:51 |
| born2wonder | in gnome, a few tweaks such as replacing nautilus with pcmanfm can help greatly. also some customizations to make it more touch friendly are very easy to adjust for noobs | 02:53 |
| dick-richardson | how do you set up a socks proxy on a connection? | 02:54 |
| born2wonder | google is ur best friend there | 02:54 |
| dick-richardson | kk | 02:54 |
| dick-richardson | got a search going as well | 02:54 |
| dick-richardson | I've been using squid...wasn't sure if there was something (other than ssh) to run on the server | 02:55 |
| born2wonder | i am sure some1 more knowledgable than me has explained it thoroughly | 02:55 |
| born2wonder | not much experience in that field | 02:56 |
| *** gentooer has quit IRC | 02:58 | |
| born2wonder | question; will mer include the debian auto-complete bash scripts ? | 03:00 |
| *** redcomet1 has quit IRC | 03:00 | |
| *** jpuderer has joined #maemo | 03:00 | |
| *** cyrus__ has quit IRC | 03:00 | |
| zakkm | why cant i pm ppl on itt forum? | 03:01 |
| LinuxCode | you are barred | 03:01 |
| LinuxCode | ;-p | 03:01 |
| LinuxCode | j/k | 03:01 |
| zakkm | not allowed? | 03:01 |
| LinuxCode | will maemo get flash 10 ? | 03:01 |
| LinuxCode | or was that in todays update ? | 03:01 |
| LinuxCode | zakkm, i was pulling your leg mate | 03:02 |
| LinuxCode | dont kknow | 03:02 |
| zakkm | LinuxCode: you try nitdroid? | 03:02 |
| zakkm | for some reason it works for everyone but me -.- | 03:02 |
| LinuxCode | no sir | 03:02 |
| born2wonder | zakkm , try to start fresh with diablo and a formatted card in the instructions, where r u getting stuck. i didnt install niitdroid but tried it on my zaurus in its early days | 03:03 |
| born2wonder | android that is.. | 03:04 |
| zakkm | im not getting stuck | 03:04 |
| zakkm | i followed it fine.. its just not working lol | 03:04 |
| zakkm | i get the robot for like few min.. it reboots.. robot | 03:04 |
| zakkm | it doesnt get past bootsplash. | 03:04 |
| *** harry has joined #maemo | 03:04 | |
| GAN8001 | LinuxCode, ha. | 03:05 |
| GAN8001 | Maybe for Fremantle. . . . | 03:05 |
| zakkm | born2wonder: its the older diablo.. and i formatted my card just recently in gparted | 03:05 |
| *** harry is now known as Guest13731 | 03:05 | |
| born2wonder | i think u have to update to the latest diablo but not sure for n800, did u try with latest diablo | 03:06 |
| zakkm | no but i dont see how that will help? cause i install the nitdroid kernel.. and use a new SD card. | 03:06 |
| zakkm | i dont see how maemo gets affected/involved? | 03:06 |
| zakkm | but people had it working fine, before the new recent update. | 03:07 |
| born2wonder | oh ok, let me do some quick searching | 03:07 |
| zakkm | born2wonder: thank you | 03:08 |
| *** Guest13731 is now known as kcome | 03:12 | |
| zakkm | ill be back in a few minutes | 03:12 |
| *** zakkm has quit IRC | 03:13 | |
| *** benh has quit IRC | 03:13 | |
| *** TokyoDan has joined #maemo | 03:14 | |
| *** Pyrhos has quit IRC | 03:15 | |
| *** zakkm has joined #maemo | 03:16 | |
| born2wonder | r u sure u flashed ur kernel with R&D mode enabled using linux. that seems to cause the reboot loop issue. check the nitdroid topic on itt , the last couple of pages for the commands | 03:17 |
| born2wonder | zakkm | 03:17 |
| zakkm | yes sorry, hhad to boot into mac | 03:17 |
| born2wonder | np | 03:17 |
| zakkm | yes i did.. and that causes a different reboot loop | 03:17 |
| zakkm | that, android boots.. but it reboots after 5 min or so | 03:17 |
| zakkm | this .. android doesnt fully boot at all | 03:17 |
| born2wonder | umm, did u try using a different card just for good measure | 03:18 |
| zakkm | i did check the topic.. i read every single page.. tried it in the past but theres been a new update in the nitdroid project that adds good n800 support | 03:18 |
| zakkm | and since then.. many ppl supposely got it working on the n800 | 03:18 |
| zakkm | so i thought id try again. but no luck | 03:18 |
| zakkm | yes | 03:18 |
| zakkm | ive tried 2 4gb's sdhc's | 03:18 |
| born2wonder | maybe ur rootfs is corrupt | 03:19 |
| zakkm | ? | 03:19 |
| zakkm | i extracted it twice | 03:19 |
| born2wonder | check if there is a md5 for it or just redoownload it | 03:19 |
| zakkm | and did all sorts | 03:19 |
| zakkm | i did | 03:19 |
| zakkm | 3 times downloaded | 03:19 |
| zakkm | on a knoppix livecd | 03:20 |
| zakkm | and one time on mac osx | 03:20 |
| born2wonder | ok, let me check smth | 03:20 |
| *** florian has quit IRC | 03:22 | |
| born2wonder | did u try penguinbait and qwerty's android | 03:23 |
| *** pvanhoof has quit IRC | 03:25 | |
| * born2wonder is away: I'm busy | 03:31 | |
| LinuxCode | night all | 03:35 |
| *** LinuxCode has quit IRC | 03:39 | |
| *** kimitake_______5 has quit IRC | 03:41 | |
| *** Sargun has quit IRC | 03:44 | |
| *** chmac has quit IRC | 03:47 | |
| *** benh has joined #maemo | 03:48 | |
| *** TokyoDan has left #maemo | 03:49 | |
| *** kimitake has joined #maemo | 03:52 | |
| *** Luria has joined #maemo | 03:52 | |
| *** melmoth has quit IRC | 04:05 | |
| *** gentooer has joined #maemo | 04:13 | |
| zakkm | burn2wonder: sorry, and no i havent | 04:13 |
| zakkm | born2wonder: its not quite the same though | 04:13 |
| born2wonder | well i c but seems like there is a diablo kernel for n800 for it, might be worth a try as its a very simple solution, 3 debs or so | 04:16 |
| born2wonder | at the end of the posts for that android topic, it seems that u have to have latest diablo for it. | 04:20 |
| *** datachaos has quit IRC | 04:20 | |
| *** housetier has quit IRC | 04:22 | |
| born2wonder | furthermore did u confirm with pycage or others onn the forum who got the droid on their n800 about method and versions of files/os | 04:23 |
| zakkm | born2wonder: i cant pm on the forum | 04:25 |
| zakkm | i made the last post though | 04:25 |
| zakkm | born2wonder: thats for like really olddddd android.. and it doesnt have touchscreen or anything worthwhile | 04:26 |
| born2wonder | i c, but i thought qwerty got touchscreen working but manybe not for n800 for | 04:31 |
| born2wonder | did u use the latest kernel and userspace , 3days ago | 04:33 |
| born2wonder | and add --enable-rd-mode | 04:33 |
| born2wonder | to flasher | 04:33 |
| zakkm | yes | 04:35 |
| zakkm | born2wonder: yes | 04:35 |
| *** matt_c has joined #maemo | 04:35 | |
| *** zakkm has quit IRC | 04:36 | |
| *** matt_c has quit IRC | 04:37 | |
| *** dick-richardson has left #maemo | 04:37 | |
| *** matt_c has joined #maemo | 04:38 | |
| *** k-s[AWAY] is now known as k-s | 04:39 | |
| *** zakkm has joined #maemo | 04:40 | |
| disco_stu | hi zakkm | 04:41 |
| zakkm | hi | 04:41 |
| zakkm | burn2wonder: sorry, had to logout | 04:41 |
| born2wonder | np | 04:42 |
| born2wonder | someone mentioned something about disabling double frame buffering so userspace doesnt crash, might be already fixed though | 04:43 |
| born2wonder | try redoing the whole thing starting by redownloading ur kernel | 04:44 |
| born2wonder | i know its tedious but it seems to work for everybody. | 04:45 |
| disco_stu | zakkm, did you get the latest ssu? | 04:45 |
| zakkm | no | 04:45 |
| zakkm | should i of? | 04:45 |
| *** inherited has quit IRC | 04:45 | |
| zakkm | redownloading my kernel? | 04:46 |
| zakkm | born2wonder: i just tried it several times today | 04:46 |
| disco_stu | zakkm, get the last ssu, speed improvements are huge | 04:47 |
| zakkm | really? | 04:47 |
| zakkm | i heard it wasnt significant | 04:47 |
| *** inherited has joined #maemo | 04:47 | |
| disco_stu | yes, X server optimizations | 04:47 |
| zakkm | really? sweet | 04:48 |
| zakkm | maybe i should then | 04:48 |
| zakkm | in % .. how good you think? | 04:48 |
| disco_stu | you will lose rotation support for now, and you´ll have to set bootmenu again | 04:48 |
| born2wonder | i will install android soon and then might be able better to help u | 04:49 |
| zakkm | disco_stu: should i reflash.. or just update | 04:49 |
| disco_stu | dont know.. but is really nice | 04:49 |
| zakkm | born2wonder: you have n800 ? | 04:49 |
| disco_stu | just update fron app. manager | 04:49 |
| disco_stu | s/fron/from/ | 04:50 |
| infobot | disco_stu meant: just update from app. manager | 04:50 |
| zakkm | ok thanks :) | 04:50 |
| zakkm | 19mb only ;o | 04:51 |
| disco_stu | yeah :) | 04:52 |
| zakkm | i have 120kb/s internet.. so thats gonna take awhile ;p | 04:52 |
| born2wonder | no n810 | 04:54 |
| born2wonder | i would reflash to start fresh since ur facing unique problems | 04:54 |
| born2wonder | but as mentioned , update is though manager | 04:55 |
| zakkm | yeah im doing update | 04:55 |
| zakkm | thanks | 04:55 |
| disco_stu | wow. zakkm why do you have such an slow connection? live away from town? | 04:56 |
| zakkm | ... i live in Toronto , Canada | 04:56 |
| zakkm | lol | 04:56 |
| zakkm | 1/4-1/5 of canada lives in the same city ;p | 04:56 |
| zakkm | just have no money.. so buy cheap internet | 04:56 |
| zakkm | i dont download that much | 04:56 |
| disco_stu | i live in an small town of argentina and i have 2mb symmetric | 04:57 |
| disco_stu | for a few dollars | 04:57 |
| zakkm | ? | 04:57 |
| zakkm | 120kbyte/s .. not kbit | 04:58 |
| disco_stu | lol | 04:58 |
| disco_stu | its ok then | 04:58 |
| zakkm | its okay | 04:59 |
| zakkm | i used to have 1mbyte/s .. and it didnt help too much | 04:59 |
| *** kimitake has quit IRC | 05:00 | |
| born2wonder | very cheap internet providor in canada is acanac.ca | 05:00 |
| zakkm | thats pretty cheap | 05:01 |
| born2wonder | less than 20 bucks including tazes plue 6mbps and 100 gb og online storage with unlimited bandwidth | 05:01 |
| disco_stu | static public ip? | 05:02 |
| born2wonder | ideal if u want to overcome the throttling done by bell by ssh tunneling ur torrents throught that | 05:02 |
| born2wonder | static ips are 30 bucks | 05:02 |
| born2wonder | there is a catch | 05:03 |
| disco_stu | nice | 05:03 |
| zakkm | the residental adsl? | 05:03 |
| born2wonder | u have to pay for the whole year upfront | 05:03 |
| disco_stu | wow | 05:03 |
| zakkm | oh cant do that | 05:03 |
| zakkm | im with rogers | 05:03 |
| zakkm | im only 17.. my parents pay the bills ;p | 05:03 |
| disco_stu | zakkm, you keep stealing wifi to the neighbour? | 05:04 |
| zakkm | used to, they kept wifi off for ages now | 05:04 |
| born2wonder | well 234 for a whole years unlimited internet is worth it , plus the fringe benefits mentioned | 05:04 |
| *** milhouse has quit IRC | 05:05 | |
| * disco_stu thinks born2wonder works for acanac | 05:05 | |
| disco_stu | lol | 05:05 |
| born2wonder | be carefull as i some ppl leave their wifi open so as to gain info on connected users using sniffing tools and such | 05:06 |
| born2wonder | lol | 05:06 |
| *** k-s is now known as k-s[AWAY] | 05:06 | |
| disco_stu | yeah i do that | 05:06 |
| zakkm | lol | 05:06 |
| zakkm | its okay | 05:06 |
| zakkm | they arent that smart around here ;p | 05:07 |
| born2wonder | lol | 05:07 |
| disco_stu | have two wlans and i dump all the traffic from one | 05:07 |
| disco_stu | :) | 05:07 |
| zakkm | some also connect to open wifis | 05:08 |
| zakkm | to sniff them ;p | 05:08 |
| disco_stu | i do that too | 05:08 |
| *** Kl0r has quit IRC | 05:08 | |
| disco_stu | :) | 05:08 |
| zakkm | what you use? | 05:08 |
| disco_stu | mostly tcpdump | 05:09 |
| born2wonder | well that gives u their plain passwords such as pop3, telnet,rdp (assuming no ssh tunneling) but mitm attacks for ssl sites are to be watched for | 05:09 |
| disco_stu | but ettercap too | 05:09 |
| disco_stu | ppl im going to study for a while. see you tomorrow | 05:10 |
| born2wonder | ettercap is the easiest with amazing filters and options | 05:10 |
| zakkm | wanna teach me how to use ettercap? :) | 05:11 |
| disco_stu | zakkm, install it | 05:11 |
| born2wonder | dont sniff networks u dont own though, u never know whose on the other side, plus its illegal | 05:11 |
| disco_stu | its very intuitive | 05:11 |
| zakkm | i did ages ago, its deleted now | 05:11 |
| zakkm | i didnt get it too much | 05:11 |
| disco_stu | well i can show you how to use | 05:12 |
| born2wonder | a google search will give u what u need | 05:12 |
| disco_stu | but maybe tomorrow, im leaving now | 05:12 |
| born2wonder | google ettercap tutorial | 05:12 |
| disco_stu | bye bye | 05:12 |
| *** jacques has joined #maemo | 05:13 | |
| zakkm | byee | 05:13 |
| born2wonder | but u have to understand that this might bottleneck the network as traffic is directed through u when creating ssl-certs on the fly with ettercap, an admin can detect this and act accordingly | 05:14 |
| zakkm | act accordingly? | 05:14 |
| born2wonder | so its not an experimentation tool to try at school or the likes, | 05:15 |
| zakkm | my school isnt smart enough ;p | 05:15 |
| born2wonder | well , admins can ban macaddresses or certain accounts | 05:16 |
| zakkm | but untraceable to you? | 05:16 |
| born2wonder | well u have been warned and this is highly illegal | 05:16 |
| zakkm | im aware of its legality | 05:16 |
| born2wonder | well for a mac address, a simple macchanger -m device name will set ur device to a random man, also ur hostname can be seen | 05:17 |
| zakkm | you can easily change your mac address? | 05:18 |
| born2wonder | yes | 05:18 |
| zakkm | cool :) | 05:18 |
| zakkm | i found ettercap for nokia.. several weeks ago | 05:18 |
| born2wonder | the plain passwords work fine on it, but had problems with forwarding packets on it when using iptables to route the data using the ettercap conf | 05:20 |
| zakkm | plain passwords? | 05:20 |
| born2wonder | didnt try it again on maemo | 05:20 |
| zakkm | why are they ever used lol | 05:20 |
| born2wonder | since some protocols still use them like ftp rdp pop3 , | 05:21 |
| born2wonder | if u are interested in this kind of thing u should go the backtrack3 forums and start reading... .... alot of guides and info | 05:22 |
| born2wonder | but i have friends who got caught in university doing a mitm arp poisining attack. most schools allow u on their network only after some sort of authorization that will be able to distinguish u , by username for example | 05:24 |
| zakkm | i remember backtrace | 05:24 |
| zakkm | never used it though | 05:24 |
| zakkm | nah, | 05:25 |
| zakkm | my school just has password'd but everyone knows it | 05:25 |
| born2wonder | in that case, that part isnot a problem but still, u should have complete understanding of what ur doing before u use these tools | 05:26 |
| born2wonder | and i advise u against tryin it at school. a home test will be much more fruitful as u can tweak it and check its working properly .. | 05:28 |
| zakkm | oh ill test at home first of course | 05:28 |
| *** gentooer has quit IRC | 05:30 | |
| born2wonder | dont say i didnt warn u | 05:30 |
| * born2wonder is away: I'm busy | 05:32 | |
| *** spencer_ has joined #maemo | 05:34 | |
| *** matt_c has quit IRC | 05:38 | |
| *** matt_c has joined #maemo | 05:38 | |
| redcomet | anyone online who has gotten sbrsh working between scratchbox and 810? | 05:48 |
| *** pcfe` has joined #maemo | 05:52 | |
| *** twilightNoir has joined #MAemo | 05:56 | |
| *** oilinki has quit IRC | 05:57 | |
| redcomet | nevermind, problem was with sanbox setting | 05:57 |
| *** pcfe has quit IRC | 06:00 | |
| *** b-man has joined #maemo | 06:02 | |
| *** twilightNoir has left #MAemo | 06:06 | |
| *** Grackle has joined #maemo | 06:12 | |
| *** twilightNoir has joined #MAemo | 06:14 | |
| *** TrueJournals has joined #maemo | 06:17 | |
| *** b-man has quit IRC | 06:22 | |
| *** born2wonder has quit IRC | 06:30 | |
| *** kimitake has joined #maemo | 06:36 | |
| *** TrueJournals has quit IRC | 07:00 | |
| *** datachaos has joined #maemo | 07:00 | |
| *** spencer_ has quit IRC | 07:07 | |
| *** datachaos has quit IRC | 07:09 | |
| *** tulkastaldo has quit IRC | 07:09 | |
| *** Grackle has quit IRC | 07:09 | |
| *** Grackle has joined #maemo | 07:13 | |
| twilightNoir | Quick question | 07:13 |
| twilightNoir | Is there an irssi for OS 2008? | 07:14 |
| `0660 | there is ssh+screen | 07:16 |
| `0660 | in the other hand, none of the current terminals let you open hyperlinks without frustration | 07:17 |
| twilightNoir | >.< | 07:17 |
| zakkm | ;p | 07:19 |
| zakkm | there is irssi | 07:19 |
| zakkm | just apt-get it | 07:19 |
| *** fnordianslip has quit IRC | 07:21 | |
| *** ciroip has quit IRC | 07:23 | |
| *** Sargun has joined #maemo | 07:33 | |
| *** zakkm has quit IRC | 07:38 | |
| *** pupnik has quit IRC | 07:39 | |
| *** spencer_ has joined #maemo | 07:40 | |
| *** jacques has quit IRC | 07:42 | |
| spencer_ | can someoone help me?? in sb2, i can't seem to use configure script... the perl is always saying missing XML::parser but libxml* are all installed. | 07:43 |
| *** pupnik has joined #maemo | 07:46 | |
| *** oilinki has joined #maemo | 07:49 | |
| *** TokyoDan has joined #maemo | 07:49 | |
| *** ralann has joined #maemo | 07:50 | |
| *** ralann has quit IRC | 07:52 | |
| *** Meiz_n810 has quit IRC | 08:01 | |
| *** fourhundredtwo has joined #maemo | 08:02 | |
| *** fourhundredtwo has left #maemo | 08:02 | |
| tchan | XML::Parser is a perl CPAN module. It has nothing to do with libxml libraries. | 08:05 |
| tchan | You need to figure out how to get your perl to install a CPAN module | 08:05 |
| *** twilightNoir has left #MAemo | 08:12 | |
| *** benh has quit IRC | 08:23 | |
| *** geaaru has joined #maemo | 08:24 | |
| *** |thunder has joined #maemo | 08:24 | |
| pupnik | installing that stuff in sb was a pita | 08:29 |
| *** CiroipN810 has joined #Maemo | 08:32 | |
| *** Meiz_n810 has joined #maemo | 08:39 | |
| *** Grackle has quit IRC | 08:41 | |
| *** melmoth has joined #maemo | 08:47 | |
| *** juergbi has joined #maemo | 08:47 | |
| *** Grackle has joined #maemo | 08:49 | |
| *** pcfe` is now known as pcfe | 08:53 | |
| *** benh has joined #maemo | 09:03 | |
| *** vincenzo has joined #maemo | 09:03 | |
| vincenzo | Hello ;) | 09:04 |
| johnx | hi | 09:05 |
| *** spencer_ has quit IRC | 09:05 | |
| *** ciroip has joined #maemo | 09:06 | |
| *** benh has quit IRC | 09:08 | |
| *** Meiz_n810 has quit IRC | 09:11 | |
| *** melmoth has quit IRC | 09:13 | |
| *** click170 has quit IRC | 09:15 | |
| *** melmoth has joined #maemo | 09:16 | |
| *** benh has joined #maemo | 09:17 | |
| *** trickie has joined #maemo | 09:21 | |
| *** benh has quit IRC | 09:22 | |
| *** TokyoDan has quit IRC | 09:22 | |
| *** trickie has quit IRC | 09:23 | |
| *** trickie has joined #maemo | 09:23 | |
| *** qwerty12 has joined #maemo | 09:24 | |
| *** benh has joined #maemo | 09:25 | |
| *** benh has quit IRC | 09:26 | |
| *** rmoravcik has joined #maemo | 09:27 | |
| *** benh has joined #maemo | 09:29 | |
| *** ssvb has quit IRC | 09:31 | |
| *** tekojo has joined #maemo | 09:33 | |
| *** Wikier has joined #maemo | 09:34 | |
| *** Sargun has quit IRC | 09:49 | |
| *** Sargun has joined #maemo | 09:51 | |
| *** geaaru has quit IRC | 09:57 | |
| *** DamagE_425 has joined #maemo | 10:02 | |
| DamagE_425 | heyo! | 10:02 |
| johnx | hiho! | 10:03 |
| DamagE_425 | is this a new reality 2 have kde in my pocket device? o.O | 10:03 |
| johnx | eh, just think of it as a small laptop :P | 10:04 |
| *** ttmrichter_ has joined #maemo | 10:04 | |
| DamagE_425 | and what about all that kul apps? they're ready 2 install? | 10:05 |
| johnx | all the kde apps? well, it's a little more complicated in some ways | 10:05 |
| DamagE_425 | but i wanna install kde by myself and found only deb files which make all routines automatically | 10:06 |
| *** geaaru has joined #maemo | 10:07 | |
| johnx | no one's stopping you from installing it manually | 10:07 |
| DamagE_425 | could u give me instructions? | 10:08 |
| *** qwerty12 has quit IRC | 10:08 | |
| johnx | sorry, I don't use KDE | 10:08 |
| DamagE_425 | i see this site very usefull and "i'll be back!" ;))) | 10:08 |
| johnx | have you checked one of the threads in the KDE section of ITT? | 10:08 |
| DamagE_425 | ofcourse )) | 10:09 |
| DamagE_425 | thanks for all bye bye! | 10:09 |
| johnx | 'later | 10:10 |
| *** kimitake has quit IRC | 10:13 | |
| *** chelli has joined #maemo | 10:14 | |
| *** DamagE_425 has quit IRC | 10:14 | |
| *** ttmrichter has quit IRC | 10:21 | |
| *** rm_you has joined #maemo | 10:22 | |
| * rm_you sighs | 10:23 | |
| johnx | hey rm_you :D | 10:24 |
| rm_you | back in WA | 10:24 |
| rm_you | horrible day of travel tho | 10:24 |
| johnx | how's the snow by your place? | 10:25 |
| *** Meiz_n810 has joined #maemo | 10:26 | |
| *** rm_you has quit IRC | 10:26 | |
| *** rm_you has joined #maemo | 10:27 | |
| *** Zic has joined #maemo | 10:28 | |
| *** rm_you has quit IRC | 10:29 | |
| *** rm_you has joined #maemo | 10:30 | |
| *** rm_you has joined #maemo | 10:30 | |
| *** eocanha has joined #maemo | 10:32 | |
| *** ab has joined #maemo | 10:33 | |
| *** AD-N770 has joined #maemo | 10:37 | |
| *** AD-N770 has quit IRC | 10:40 | |
| *** simboss has joined #maemo | 10:40 | |
| *** alextreme has quit IRC | 10:47 | |
| *** fab has joined #maemo | 10:48 | |
| *** jurop881 has left #maemo | 10:50 | |
| *** AD-N770 has joined #maemo | 10:52 | |
| *** luogni has joined #maemo | 10:54 | |
| *** pvanhoof has joined #maemo | 11:00 | |
| *** calvaris has joined #maemo | 11:02 | |
| *** herzi has joined #maemo | 11:02 | |
| *** fab has quit IRC | 11:08 | |
| *** fab has joined #maemo | 11:12 | |
| *** mgedmin has joined #maemo | 11:19 | |
| *** ciroip has quit IRC | 11:25 | |
| *** hellwolf-n810 has quit IRC | 11:35 | |
| *** hannesw has joined #maemo | 11:38 | |
| *** denny has joined #maemo | 11:39 | |
| * Stskeeps grrs at having a nightmare on getting late up, having to choose between a nokia tablet summit at his uni and research centre xmas lunch | 11:39 | |
| johnx | this is a sign you might be working on tablet stuff too much | 11:40 |
| Stskeeps | ... and i actually woke up 3 hours later than supposed today | 11:40 |
| johnx | eep | 11:40 |
| johnx | you'll make it to the summit though right? we're all here waiting for you :D | 11:40 |
| Stskeeps | meh, ok, i'll have to skip that class then :P | 11:40 |
| Stskeeps | and will make it to xmas lunch, first in 4 hours | 11:41 |
| Stskeeps | need to further clean the house :P | 11:41 |
| *** melmoth has quit IRC | 11:41 | |
| * johnx unbreaks -tslib | 11:41 | |
| Stskeeps | woo | 11:41 |
| Stskeeps | b-man was finishing up the installer | 11:41 |
| johnx | was feeling guility for letting it sit while I was out today | 11:42 |
| Stskeeps | i need to edit some packages so they don't rely on being installed from tablet to tablet | 11:42 |
| Stskeeps | so we can run imaging from a qemu lets say | 11:42 |
| *** melmoth has joined #maemo | 11:42 | |
| Stskeeps | johnx: did you see my comment on sapwood? | 11:45 |
| johnx | around when was that? | 11:45 |
| Stskeeps | last night i guess | 11:45 |
| Stskeeps | that r2d2rogers' problem but it exhibits differently | 11:45 |
| johnx | and a way to DoS it? | 11:46 |
| johnx | neat | 11:46 |
| Stskeeps | yeah, found by accident | 11:46 |
| RST38h | moo all | 11:46 |
| johnx | m00f RST38h | 11:46 |
| Stskeeps | johnx: http://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3939 | 11:46 |
| *** pvanhoof has quit IRC | 11:46 | |
| johnx | sorry that I pulled you into the pit of howling madness that is sapwood | 11:47 |
| *** pvanhoof has joined #maemo | 11:47 | |
| Stskeeps | hehe | 11:47 |
| Stskeeps | well the bug is really funny | 11:48 |
| johnx | any gtk X client can cause it, right? | 11:48 |
| Stskeeps | we got it to trigger with gradient | 11:48 |
| Stskeeps | on his 770, any sapwood call will do it | 11:48 |
| johnx | haha! a different terrifying bug | 11:48 |
| *** yerga has quit IRC | 11:50 | |
| *** alextreme has joined #maemo | 11:50 | |
| Stskeeps | ok, due to the class not being in calendar, it seems like everyone else has booked something else today | 11:55 |
| Stskeeps | fair enough, i'm not going to feel guilty about not going | 11:55 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 11:55 |
| *** frade has joined #maemo | 11:56 | |
| *** florian_ has joined #maemo | 11:59 | |
| johnx | there we go. should be able to build -tslib again. someone should revoke my license to edit source | 12:01 |
| RST38h | Gentlemen, could somebody help me with a stupid question? | 12:03 |
| *** kcome has quit IRC | 12:03 | |
| johnx | only if it's really stupid | 12:03 |
| johnx | I don't answer smart questions | 12:03 |
| johnx | and don't think you'll be able to trick me | 12:03 |
| RST38h | In an OpenEmbedded Linux, what do I use to read hw buttons? | 12:03 |
| RST38h | Is there some generic device for that? | 12:04 |
| johnx | maybe /dev/input/eventN | 12:04 |
| *** krutt has joined #maemo | 12:04 | |
| johnx | where N depends on your machine | 12:04 |
| *** hellwolf has joined #maemo | 12:04 | |
| RST38h | ah | 12:04 |
| johnx | try /dev/input/by-path for hints | 12:05 |
| RST38h | Whatis it supposed to contain? | 12:05 |
| johnx | links to the event devices | 12:05 |
| *** florian_ is now known as florian | 12:05 | |
| johnx | root@Zero:~# ls -l /dev/input/by-path/platform-corgi-ts-event- | 12:06 |
| johnx | lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 9 Dec 17 18:11 /dev/input/by-path/platform-corgi-ts-event- -> ../event2 | 12:06 |
| johnx | on a zaurus | 12:06 |
| Stskeeps | mm, RST38h, know of any good way to reveal stack buffer overflows on gcc4/arm? | 12:06 |
| RST38h | johnx: ! | 12:06 |
| RST38h | thanks | 12:06 |
| RST38h | Sts: Electric Fence may work | 12:06 |
| *** _berto_ has joined #maemo | 12:06 | |
| Stskeeps | isn't that more of a malloc thing? | 12:07 |
| RST38h | http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=electric+fence+armel&btnG=Search | 12:07 |
| RST38h | it is | 12:07 |
| RST38h | Wait, I think there is a really easy way | 12:07 |
| Stskeeps | "dont write crap code"? :> | 12:08 |
| *** greentux has joined #maemo | 12:08 | |
| RST38h | First of all, add -fstack-check option | 12:09 |
| *** eichi has joined #maemo | 12:10 | |
| RST38h | And then read http://tuvix.apple.com/documentation/DeveloperTools/gcc-4.0.1/gccint/Stack-Checking.html although I think the default method is just fine for you | 12:10 |
| *** bilboed-pi has joined #maemo | 12:11 | |
| Stskeeps | ta | 12:11 |
| Stskeeps | johnx: .. admittedly the summit in my dream was quite interesting. it was nokia busting through with a way to make a complete pervasive computing environment .. while serving danish xmas food and alcohol \o/ | 12:12 |
| johnx | is danish xmas food awesome? | 12:12 |
| Stskeeps | if done right, yeah | 12:13 |
| Stskeeps | there's the professional "modern" xmas food, which sucks | 12:13 |
| RST38h | Sts: Was the pervasive environment implemented through syringe shots of glowing multicolored liquids? =) | 12:13 |
| johnx | ...or plastic cups full of koolaid? | 12:14 |
| RST38h | As far as I know, koolaid *is* a glowing multicolored liquid | 12:14 |
| johnx | and a plastic cup is a lot like a syringe if you stab it into your arm hard enough | 12:14 |
| Stskeeps | RST38h: no, it was actually in style with the world :P | 12:15 |
| *** vincenzo has quit IRC | 12:15 | |
| johnx | ok, I think I unbroke tslib | 12:15 |
| RST38h | Sts: Mm...with ugly gray laptops running Windows XP? | 12:15 |
| Stskeeps | hehe | 12:15 |
| RST38h | [looking at the window] THEY TURNED ON THE LIGHT! | 12:16 |
| johnx | since I already ran /import-new-packages, will I have to bump the version number to re-upload? | 12:16 |
| RST38h | Not for long though. | 12:16 |
| Stskeeps | johnx: yeah | 12:16 |
| *** beavis has quit IRC | 12:17 | |
| johnx | jeez, that chinese n800-alike thing will run more than a pandora O_o | 12:20 |
| Stskeeps | .. we should port mer to it | 12:21 |
| johnx | we should get one free to port mer to | 12:21 |
| Stskeeps | hehe | 12:21 |
| Stskeeps | seriously though, if there was proper easy-to-make-images maemo like os'es.. that could do interesting things for the market | 12:21 |
| johnx | though you're right. I'm running out of things that aren't a stones throw away from mer | 12:21 |
| RST38h | Sts: It will go out of business before you port mer to it | 12:22 |
| Stskeeps | probably | 12:23 |
| Stskeeps | RST38h: i mean, if it wasn't such a balant design ripoff, it would actually work out | 12:23 |
| johnx | that's true of a lot of companies given today's economy :/ | 12:23 |
| johnx | well, the problem would be marketing and global distribution | 12:23 |
| Stskeeps | if they were a bit creative with form factor, they'd have a kickass competitor :P | 12:24 |
| johnx | as for how well it would do in the native Chinese market...I really can't tell you about market trends in China | 12:24 |
| Stskeeps | hehe | 12:25 |
| Stskeeps | i suspect it could work decently at danish market | 12:25 |
| johnx | with an off brand name and an off OS? | 12:26 |
| johnx | would people really risk it? | 12:26 |
| *** christefano has joined #maemo | 12:26 | |
| Stskeeps | that's a good question | 12:27 |
| Stskeeps | i think people should just avoid saying it's linux | 12:27 |
| Stskeeps | and people would just take it as some mobile OS | 12:27 |
| johnx | people accept that for a mobile phone, but with a tablet they're usually looking for something more flexible than a smartphone | 12:27 |
| johnx | and even with smartphones users are picky about OS | 12:28 |
| Stskeeps | the problem with netbooks is that people expect to run their normal pc activities | 12:28 |
| Stskeeps | with a tablet its a tool | 12:28 |
| Stskeeps | or a media player | 12:29 |
| Stskeeps | etc | 12:29 |
| Stskeeps | with pleasant surprise when it can actually most of the same activities as a netbook would be able to | 12:29 |
| johnx | but only a small group of people are even interested in tablets and I'd really describe them as power users for the most part currently | 12:29 |
| * johnx crosses his fingers. tell me good news merbuilder... | 12:30 | |
| Stskeeps | *nod* | 12:30 |
| *** eichi has quit IRC | 12:30 | |
| Stskeeps | there's one thing i'd like to try once time is.. targeted community images | 12:30 |
| Stskeeps | "the chem students image" | 12:31 |
| Stskeeps | there's a tool for drawing molecules, for instance | 12:31 |
| *** bergie has joined #maemo | 12:31 | |
| Stskeeps | omapfb built | 12:31 |
| johnx | yup, no changes except for a version bump | 12:31 |
| johnx | tslib should be fine | 12:31 |
| Stskeeps | k, so what was the issue, the -input-all/whatever stuff? | 12:32 |
| johnx | the omapfb issue was that Provides: had a substitution for xserver-xorg-video-4 and that needs to be -5 now with xorg-core >= 1:7.4~5ubuntu6 | 12:34 |
| Stskeeps | ah | 12:34 |
| Stskeeps | silly packaging systems :P | 12:34 |
| johnx | yeah, and tracking unstable distros | 12:34 |
| Stskeeps | yeah | 12:34 |
| Meiz_n810 | xserver-xorg-core: Conflicts: xserver-xorg-input-2.1 | 12:35 |
| Stskeeps | Meiz_n810: still buildin' probably | 12:35 |
| Meiz_n810 | okay | 12:35 |
| Stskeeps | i should really adjust merbuilder to use the sdk instead | 12:36 |
| johnx | luckily these are small | 12:36 |
| Stskeeps | yeah, but it is still faster on sdk :P | 12:37 |
| johnx | well yeah | 12:37 |
| Stskeeps | except im not confident on how to do it cleanly cos of all the packages in sdk already | 12:38 |
| Stskeeps | since we can't "just" start from a buildd foundation | 12:39 |
| johnx | yeah, but I think we can have an understanding that we'll start with whatever the SDK has and if we need a clean buildd-like setup we'll do that as needed | 12:40 |
| johnx | or am I confused? :D | 12:40 |
| Stskeeps | yeah.. something like that | 12:41 |
| Stskeeps | also i'm still pondering on the fact that i386 needs pbuilder+chroot or whatever, and armel needs scratchbox.. and with maemo it has both in scratchbox | 12:42 |
| *** fnordianslip has joined #maemo | 12:44 | |
| johnx | so what's qwerty12 doing with hildon-desktop-env? | 12:45 |
| Stskeeps | he added h-i-m to it (http://wiki.maemo.org/Mer_Blueprint#December_tasks) | 12:45 |
| johnx | ok, so I can do some other changes without stepping on his toes? | 12:46 |
| Stskeeps | yeah, his changes were added | 12:46 |
| Stskeeps | so source+stuff is in repo now | 12:46 |
| Stskeeps | (i think) | 12:46 |
| johnx | if we're getting close to installable, I'd like to get the desktop startup stuff down solid | 12:47 |
| RST38h | Sts: You have not held their device in your hands so you do not know | 12:47 |
| RST38h | Sts: There is a LOT more than design that makes the product successful | 12:47 |
| Stskeeps | true | 12:47 |
| Stskeeps | like, not requiring to be on AC power constantly :P | 12:47 |
| Stskeeps | johnx: we should think about /home/user too. | 12:48 |
| johnx | so I'm thinking of having hildon-desktop-env -> /etc/alternatives/x-session-manager | 12:48 |
| RST38h | With these Chinese guys, the biggest problem is that they don't and can't market | 12:48 |
| johnx | Stskeeps, the $tablet_user thing didn't seem too bad | 12:49 |
| Stskeeps | $tablet_user? or /etc/tablet_user | 12:49 |
| johnx | sorry, the latter | 12:49 |
| Stskeeps | yeah.. im just worried about all the maemo apps relying on it being /home/user | 12:50 |
| johnx | hmm, that would be very dumb of them | 12:51 |
| johnx | are some of these apps confirmed to exist? | 12:51 |
| Stskeeps | one way could be a /etc/default_user that a package in maemo extras provides (with contents "user"), and for them to depend on | 12:51 |
| Stskeeps | not sure tbh | 12:51 |
| Stskeeps | qwerty12 hinted there might be | 12:51 |
| johnx | tablet_user=$(cat /etc/tablet_user) ; ln -s /home/$tablet_user -> /home/user | 12:52 |
| Stskeeps | true | 12:53 |
| Stskeeps | is username renames possible? | 12:53 |
| Stskeeps | should be i guess | 12:54 |
| Stskeeps | just need some way to boot up and ask for username :P | 12:54 |
| johnx | would that be better as part of the install or part of the first-boot? | 12:55 |
| johnx | though if we distribute images eventually there is no interactive "install" | 12:56 |
| Stskeeps | first-boot. our goal is images | 12:56 |
| johnx | yeah, just thought about that | 12:56 |
| johnx | eventually we'll need a classy "first-boot" wizard I suppose | 12:56 |
| Stskeeps | yeah | 12:56 |
| Stskeeps | i'm sure we can whop something together with zenity and h-i-m | 12:56 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 12:56 |
| johnx | yeah, so that will just run Xserver+first-boot.sh :) | 12:57 |
| johnx | yeah, shouldn't be bad I suppose | 12:57 |
| johnx | thank god for zenity | 12:58 |
| *** aantn has joined #maemo | 12:58 | |
| Stskeeps | also we should find some portable way of indicating what kind of hardware its being installed on.. i mean, people look at /proc/component_version atm | 13:00 |
| johnx | yeah, that's notably missing on non-tablets huh? | 13:00 |
| Stskeeps | yeah | 13:01 |
| johnx | what about: cat /proc/cpuinfo | grep Hardware: | 13:01 |
| johnx | minus the : | 13:02 |
| johnx | could someone with a N810 or 770 tell me what this says on your device: | 13:02 |
| johnx | cat /proc/cpuinfo | grep Hardware | 13:02 |
| * florian looks up in gpe-conf | 13:03 | |
| florian | johnx: The 70 says: "Generic OMAP1510/1610/1710" | 13:03 |
| johnx | well, that's less than good | 13:04 |
| *** bergie has quit IRC | 13:04 | |
| florian | indeed | 13:04 |
| johnx | I have visions of a giant branching sh script | 13:04 |
| Stskeeps | or simply making a echo $TARGET_NAME > /etc. | 13:04 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 13:04 |
| *** lele has quit IRC | 13:04 | |
| RST38h | that is Satan tempting you | 13:04 |
| florian | johnx: The N800 is better: "Nokia N800" | 13:04 |
| johnx | yeah, that's all nice and agreeable | 13:05 |
| johnx | and my zaurus does the right thing | 13:05 |
| *** christefano has quit IRC | 13:05 | |
| florian | johnx: Most devices do - luckily. | 13:07 |
| *** lele has joined #maemo | 13:07 | |
| johnx | angstrom goes from that IIRC | 13:08 |
| johnx | I've devled into their giant machine guessing script | 13:08 |
| johnx | as long as it gets updated bit by bit as new machines are supported it's probably not a problem | 13:08 |
| *** yerga has joined #maemo | 13:09 | |
| Stskeeps | morning yerga | 13:10 |
| Stskeeps | johnx: omapfb built on arm | 13:10 |
| yerga | morning Stskeeps | 13:10 |
| Stskeeps | (1724s) | 13:10 |
| johnx | you're right, that does take a bit of time | 13:11 |
| Stskeeps | glib took ~15 min on cross-compile | 13:11 |
| Stskeeps | like, what, 10 hours on not? :P | 13:11 |
| johnx | takes 4 or so natively I think without docs | 13:12 |
| johnx | but that's cheating of course :) | 13:12 |
| Stskeeps | my idea that binary-level emulation would accelerate that process a bit was right though :P | 13:13 |
| * johnx needs to eat real food instead of cookies | 13:13 | |
| jumpula | cookies! | 13:13 |
| johnx | I ate all the cookies in the house :/ | 13:14 |
| jumpula | i'm all out :( | 13:14 |
| *** zap has joined #maemo | 13:14 | |
| johnx | craps :/ | 13:19 |
| *** AStorm has joined #maemo | 13:19 | |
| johnx | seems that ubuntu guys still haven't rebuilt most of their x packages yet | 13:19 |
| AStorm | hello | 13:20 |
| johnx | hey AStorm | 13:20 |
| AStorm | ehh, stupid SSU broke ukeyboard | 13:20 |
| AStorm | more exactly, all its added layours | 13:21 |
| AStorm | *layouts | 13:21 |
| *** Sho_ has joined #maemo | 13:25 | |
| *** caio1982 has joined #maemo | 13:25 | |
| *** lardman|gone is now known as lardman | 13:34 | |
| lardman | morning | 13:34 |
| *** bergie has joined #maemo | 13:34 | |
| *** benh has quit IRC | 13:35 | |
| *** krau has joined #maemo | 13:37 | |
| *** Meiz_n810 has quit IRC | 13:37 | |
| AStorm | hmm | 13:40 |
| *** tekojo has quit IRC | 13:40 | |
| AStorm | why oh why won't Nokia adopt ukeyboard and all the nice mods.. | 13:40 |
| AStorm | Stskeeps, mer will have all that, right? | 13:41 |
| *** k-s[AWAY] is now known as k-s | 13:41 | |
| Stskeeps | does it integrate into h-i-m or? | 13:41 |
| mgedmin | what layouts were added in the SSU? | 13:41 |
| Stskeeps | (.. what is it? :P) | 13:42 |
| AStorm | mgedmin, none | 13:43 |
| mgedmin | ah | 13:43 |
| AStorm | Stskeeps,it does not, it's a control panel applet | 13:43 |
| mgedmin | I misparsed your statement as "stupid SSU (more exactly,all its added layouts) broke ukeyboard" | 13:43 |
| Stskeeps | so it adds h-i-m layouts or? | 13:43 |
| AStorm | replaces standard one | 13:43 |
| AStorm | him doesn't care about layouts | 13:44 |
| AStorm | it can change them, yes | 13:44 |
| AStorm | but what's more important, can change X layout | 13:44 |
| Stskeeps | well if we can make it work with the vkb example, sure :P | 13:44 |
| AStorm | and allows picking your own new layouts | 13:44 |
| AStorm | = less broken | 13:45 |
| AStorm | I guess X update moved the basic layout somewhere | 13:45 |
| Stskeeps | http://internettablettalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=25677 | 13:47 |
| Stskeeps | this is awesome | 13:47 |
| AStorm | new browser is a tiny bit faster (of the SSU) | 13:47 |
| AStorm | and flash isn't horrible anymore | 13:48 |
| AStorm | Stskeeps, I guess it will fail at my handwriting | 13:48 |
| AStorm | as epitext does | 13:49 |
| Stskeeps | guess numbers and such are easier | 13:49 |
| AStorm | (about 33% probability of failure) | 13:49 |
| AStorm | no | 13:49 |
| Stskeeps | .. true, there are some confusing ones | 13:49 |
| AStorm | it mistakes 8 with 9 and 4 with 7 | 13:49 |
| AStorm | and rarely 3 and 9 | 13:50 |
| AStorm | it's just, meh | 13:50 |
| AStorm | not good enough | 13:50 |
| AStorm | that's why I'm writing a replacement | 13:51 |
| *** krau has quit IRC | 13:51 | |
| AStorm | the most annoing bug is that you can only have 256 samples | 13:52 |
| AStorm | and can't add your own symbols and dictionaries | 13:52 |
| *** baaba has quit IRC | 13:52 | |
| *** baaba has joined #maemo | 13:53 | |
| *** eichi has joined #maemo | 13:55 | |
| RST38h | Is this calculator in Extras? =) | 13:57 |
| AStorm | nice job though with the sqrt symbol | 13:58 |
| RST38h | alas it probably does not derive or integrate | 13:59 |
| AStorm | hehe | 13:59 |
| RST38h | 'cause SlideRule does ;) | 13:59 |
| AStorm | maybe it can do a discrete sum and permutation? | 13:59 |
| RST38h | prolly not | 13:59 |
| RST38h | But this would be cool as an input engine to Qalculate | 13:59 |
| AStorm | or a mode of epitext | 14:00 |
| AStorm | :) | 14:00 |
| AStorm | (hildon-i-m-) | 14:00 |
| *** MoRpHeUz has joined #maemo | 14:00 | |
| *** Schnouki has joined #maemo | 14:07 | |
| *** ijon_ has quit IRC | 14:08 | |
| AStorm | hmm | 14:08 |
| AStorm | let's see if I can singlehandedly beat a team of developers from Beijing :P | 14:09 |
| *** CiroipN810 has quit IRC | 14:10 | |
| *** ijon_ has joined #maemo | 14:11 | |
| *** yigal has quit IRC | 14:14 | |
| *** calvaris_ has joined #maemo | 14:15 | |
| AStorm | nokia.com really needs .deb mime type fixed | 14:17 |
| *** calvaris has quit IRC | 14:18 | |
| Stskeeps | johnx: tslib built too | 14:21 |
| *** qwerty12 has joined #maemo | 14:22 | |
| Stskeeps | lo qwerty12 | 14:23 |
| qwerty12 | hey Stskeeps | 14:23 |
| AStorm | meh, their calculator can't read * | 14:25 |
| AStorm | :P | 14:25 |
| AStorm | ok, it fails worse than epitext on its own :P | 14:26 |
| Stskeeps | * or x? | 14:27 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 14:27 |
| Stskeeps | or the dot in the middle | 14:27 |
| AStorm | * as in star | 14:28 |
| AStorm | also, it frequently misreads numbers as powers | 14:28 |
| *** fab has quit IRC | 14:29 | |
| AStorm | misreads dots too (multiplication vs comma) | 14:32 |
| *** luck^ has joined #maemo | 14:32 | |
| AStorm | brb | 14:33 |
| *** AStorm has quit IRC | 14:33 | |
| *** Meiz_n810 has joined #maemo | 14:34 | |
| *** gomiam has joined #maemo | 14:34 | |
| Meiz_n810 | hello! | 14:34 |
| Meiz_n810 | tslib and omapfb installable? | 14:34 |
| Meiz_n810 | :P | 14:35 |
| *** AStorm has joined #maemo | 14:35 | |
| *** murrayc has joined #maemo | 14:36 | |
| *** inherited is now known as eric_uni | 14:39 | |
| *** eric_uni is now known as inherited | 14:39 | |
| qwerty12 | ~curse update applet | 14:39 |
| infobot | May the fleas of a thousand camels infest your most sensitive regions, update applet ! | 14:39 |
| Stskeeps | Meiz_n810: .. maybe. we fixed them but im not sure ubuntu compiled all their new x packages | 14:40 |
| johnx | yeah, x-x-i-evdev is still providing 2.1 | 14:41 |
| johnx | s/2.1/x-x-i-2.1/ | 14:41 |
| infobot | johnx meant: yeah, x-x-i-evdev is still providing x-x-i-2.1 | 14:41 |
| Stskeeps | do we need that or does it mess up install? | 14:42 |
| johnx | it gets depended on by xorg-core | 14:42 |
| StsN800 | ah | 14:42 |
| johnx | I don't think we can get Xorg installed without some of the X modules that are still 2.1 | 14:42 |
| johnx | all they have to do is rebuild, but depending on their backlog...I don't even want to think about it | 14:43 |
| StsN800 | mm | 14:46 |
| StsN800 | if it takes too long we'll compile on our own | 14:46 |
| johnx | we may be going through a lot of packages | 14:46 |
| *** chenca has joined #maemo | 14:47 | |
| StsN800 | nah. xserver-xorg is pretty separated | 14:47 |
| johnx | well, there's bound to be more that need rebuilding | 14:48 |
| johnx | actually, guess not | 14:49 |
| johnx | just evdev... | 14:49 |
| *** housetier has joined #maemo | 14:50 | |
| *** ignacius has joined #maemo | 14:55 | |
| johnx | if we provide the same package name-version at a higher priority, then pull ours when ubuntu releases the fix upgrades should work ... I think | 14:56 |
| StsN800 | we already do pinning | 14:57 |
| johnx | right, exactly | 14:57 |
| *** Wikier has quit IRC | 14:58 | |
| lardman | ~lart Windows for needing reboots | 14:59 |
| * infobot keeps mailing Windows free America Online CDs until he drowns for needing reboots | 14:59 | |
| lardman | bbiam | 14:59 |
| *** lardman has quit IRC | 14:59 | |
| * Stskeeps will leave for xmas lunch in 10 mins or so | 15:05 | |
| Stskeeps | i work at pervasive healthcare research centre.. xmas lunch dresscode is coming as a disease | 15:05 |
| johnx | ahaha | 15:06 |
| Stskeeps | i've gone for measles as i'm horridly uninspired, but i suspect whiteboard marker and skin isn't such a good thing | 15:06 |
| Stskeeps | good thing there'll be a doctor at the lunch | 15:06 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 15:06 |
| johnx | you need a sharpie marker, whiteboard marker will come off inside a couple hours :P | 15:06 |
| Stskeeps | hehe | 15:07 |
| Stskeeps | http://ports.ubuntu.com/pool/main/x/xserver-xorg-input-evdev/xserver-xorg-input-evdev_2.1.0-0ubuntu2_armel.deb <- isnt this the one in question? | 15:07 |
| *** aantn has quit IRC | 15:07 | |
| johnx | yes | 15:07 |
| Stskeeps | so it isn't in packages, or just providing -2.1 still? | 15:08 |
| Stskeeps | ah | 15:08 |
| Stskeeps | (.. reading #u-a | 15:08 |
| johnx | :) | 15:09 |
| *** Sho_ has quit IRC | 15:10 | |
| *** StsN800 has quit IRC | 15:11 | |
| *** Sho_ has joined #maemo | 15:11 | |
| *** t0h has quit IRC | 15:12 | |
| * johnx starts a build and goes to buy dinner...and maybe a beer | 15:12 | |
| *** t0h has joined #maemo | 15:12 | |
| Stskeeps | i got two good things today, brilliant xmas food, cheap booze, and gf coming home \o/ | 15:12 |
| johnx | congrats | 15:12 |
| Stskeeps | bbl | 15:13 |
| johnx | same here | 15:14 |
| *** Sho_ has quit IRC | 15:17 | |
| *** Sho_ has joined #maemo | 15:18 | |
| *** housetier has quit IRC | 15:20 | |
| *** guardian has quit IRC | 15:25 | |
| *** Meiz_n810 has quit IRC | 15:27 | |
| *** StsN800 has joined #maemo | 15:30 | |
| *** mk500 has quit IRC | 15:38 | |
| *** etrunko has quit IRC | 15:43 | |
| *** BugBlue has quit IRC | 15:46 | |
| *** Ryback_ has joined #maemo | 15:47 | |
| *** AStorm has quit IRC | 15:49 | |
| *** flavioribeiro has joined #maemo | 15:51 | |
| *** croppa has quit IRC | 15:52 | |
| *** AStorm has joined #maemo | 15:52 | |
| *** croppa has joined #maemo | 15:52 | |
| *** AStorm has quit IRC | 15:54 | |
| *** gomiam has quit IRC | 15:54 | |
| *** StsN800 has quit IRC | 15:55 | |
| *** serrano has quit IRC | 15:56 | |
| *** thopiekar has joined #maemo | 16:03 | |
| *** thopiekar has left #maemo | 16:05 | |
| *** etrunko has joined #maemo | 16:07 | |
| *** guardian has joined #maemo | 16:08 | |
| *** pupnik_ has joined #maemo | 16:10 | |
| *** Meiz_n810 has joined #maemo | 16:10 | |
| *** redcomet1 has joined #maemo | 16:15 | |
| *** pupnik has quit IRC | 16:16 | |
| *** jpuderer has quit IRC | 16:19 | |
| *** borism__ has joined #maemo | 16:19 | |
| *** lardman has joined #maemo | 16:20 | |
| *** borism___ has joined #maemo | 16:24 | |
| *** borism_ has quit IRC | 16:26 | |
| *** eichi has quit IRC | 16:28 | |
| *** bilboed-pi has quit IRC | 16:29 | |
| *** frade has quit IRC | 16:29 | |
| *** borism__ has quit IRC | 16:30 | |
| *** harry has joined #maemo | 16:32 | |
| *** harry is now known as Guest18392 | 16:33 | |
| *** redcomet has quit IRC | 16:33 | |
| *** Guest18392 is now known as kcome | 16:38 | |
| *** frade has joined #maemo | 16:41 | |
| *** zakkm has joined #maemo | 16:45 | |
| *** guardian has quit IRC | 16:49 | |
| *** redcomet1 has quit IRC | 16:49 | |
| *** redcomet has joined #maemo | 16:49 | |
| *** zakkm has quit IRC | 16:51 | |
| *** fab__ has joined #maemo | 16:52 | |
| *** guardian has joined #maemo | 16:54 | |
| *** tchan has quit IRC | 16:55 | |
| *** tchan has joined #maemo | 16:56 | |
| oli | can i make a gtalk video call from n800 to PC? | 17:06 |
| *** edt has quit IRC | 17:17 | |
| *** edt has joined #maemo | 17:17 | |
| GAN8001 | oli, with a client that implements Jingle | 17:17 |
| GAN8001 | There are some, though that list doesn't include Google's own client. | 17:17 |
| *** ciroip has joined #maemo | 17:18 | |
| *** frade has quit IRC | 17:18 | |
| *** zakkm has joined #maemo | 17:22 | |
| *** qgil has joined #maemo | 17:23 | |
| lardman | hey qgil | 17:24 |
| lardman | how are you? | 17:24 |
| lardman | in Deutschland? | 17:25 |
| GAN8001 | lol, Beta Labs doesn't know the difference between the N800 and N810. :P http://www.nokia.com/betalabs/handwritingcalculator | 17:25 |
| qgil | hi lardman: yes | 17:26 |
| lardman | GAN8001: well they probably deal mainly with symbian anyway | 17:26 |
| qgil | GAN8001 where is the confusion? | 17:27 |
| GAN8001 | qgil, he calls the N810 an "N800" twice. ;) | 17:27 |
| qgil | ah, the video | 17:28 |
| GAN8001 | I wish the platform HWR worked that well. . . . | 17:28 |
| qgil | the pages and videos are done by the own developer teams afaik | 17:28 |
| qgil | the beta labs people do know us | 17:28 |
| zakkm | you guys know where i could find extra stylus's? | 17:29 |
| qgil | actually they are in the same building in Helsinki :) | 17:29 |
| zakkm | my n800 one got lost | 17:29 |
| *** Belagern has joined #maemo | 17:29 | |
| lardman | zakkm: I thought a couple came in the box? | 17:29 |
| GAN8001 | zakkm, unless you can beg for one at one of the flagship stores. . . | 17:29 |
| qgil | btw anyone familiar with http://maemo.org/downloads/product/OS2008/feedcircuit/ ? | 17:29 |
| zakkm | they probably did, but i got it used.. and he gave me 2.. and i somehow lost both | 17:29 |
| qgil | and/or the developer(s) | 17:29 |
| lardman | no, sorry | 17:30 |
| GAN8001 | Nope | 17:30 |
| qgil | or any other remarkable feed reader for Maemo? | 17:30 |
| zakkm | ;o | 17:30 |
| zakkm | builtin :) | 17:30 |
| qgil | I'm a bit puzzled about the comments on that page..... | 17:30 |
| qgil | so enthusiastic | 17:30 |
| qgil | have you ever heard of anybody interested in improving the official RSS Feed Reader (open source) or putting time developing one? | 17:31 |
| zakkm | Is the new Kernel really important? | 17:32 |
| GAN8001 | Lot of duplicate rating. | 17:32 |
| zakkm | cause i tried nitdroid again, failed.. and only had the 36-5 kernel.. so i reflashed the nokia with that kernel | 17:32 |
| lardman | qgil: I guess it's one of those "would be nice, but have other things to do first" sorts of things | 17:32 |
| GAN8001 | zakkm, some xv and fb improvements. | 17:32 |
| zakkm | oh okay | 17:33 |
| GAN8001 | zakkm, nitdroid probably isn't really worth the effort. | 17:33 |
| zakkm | so i should download the bin and flash? | 17:33 |
| zakkm | it failed again, after some persons help on the forum | 17:33 |
| zakkm | now its a quicker rebot loop -.- | 17:33 |
| *** zap has quit IRC | 17:33 | |
| GAN8001 | qgil, qwerty12 and Navi have some small patches for the applet, but I've never really seen anybody interested in really developing for it. | 17:33 |
| lardman | more publicity about its openness might help? | 17:34 |
| lardman | dunno | 17:34 |
| qwerty12 | GAN8001, It's really Navi's work, I just applied his chinook stuff to the diablo version :) | 17:34 |
| qgil | do you think it's because of feed readers themselves are not interesting nowadays or because it would be too much work or...? | 17:34 |
| lardman | probably that it's not that interesting | 17:35 |
| GAN8001 | The feed reader seems to be important enough to a lot of people to complain frequently about it. | 17:35 |
| GAN8001 | But I doubt improving it would be very much fun. | 17:35 |
| GAN8001 | Seems like a long way to go to get the official client up to snuff. | 17:35 |
| lardman | if I had some complaint (that I could remember, I think I did once upon a time complain about it for some reason) I'd submit a patch | 17:35 |
| lardman | yeah, depends on what the source looks like I suppose | 17:36 |
| Jaffa | Morning, all | 17:36 |
| qgil | on the other hand... are there amazing fed readers out there | 17:36 |
| qgil | ? | 17:36 |
| * GAN8001 doesn't use RSS. | 17:37 | |
| * zakkm thinks rss should come through email at a certain interval .. | 17:37 | |
| * lardman doesn't use it much either | 17:37 | |
| lardman | though it could be quite useful | 17:38 |
| GAN8001 | I'm usually just frustrated that it's not the web interface. | 17:38 |
| lardman | the way it was on the 770 - small headlines, etc | 17:38 |
| qgil | I would be happy pushing some "incentives" for either move the Diablo reader for a next level in Fremantle, or support a 100% community project challenging the official one | 17:38 |
| * qwerty12 just uses it to read the BBC news | 17:38 | |
| qgil | my case is similar | 17:38 |
| * Jaffa uses the in-built reader for a few feeds (BBC, Techmeme, p.m.o & Facebook friends feed) | 17:38 | |
| qgil | what I think though is whether feed readrs would be more used if they would address better the problems | 17:38 |
| zakkm | does ssh server work well on nokia? | 17:39 |
| lardman | bring on hw accel and scrolling will be fine | 17:39 |
| oli | zakkm: yep | 17:39 |
| Jaffa | It's not very good for many of them like p.m.o & Techmeme as I never remember to look at items "saved for later" when I've got a n/w connection. | 17:39 |
| oli | i've got a problem with adding a SIP account on my n800 | 17:39 |
| Jaffa | RX-51 with HSPA could help there | 17:39 |
| GAN8001 | qgil, I think a good feed reader will make a lot of people happy. | 17:39 |
| zakkm | does the deb in application manager automatically set up ssh server? | 17:39 |
| oli | i enter login, password and proxy adress, but it says it can't connect | 17:39 |
| qgil | GAN8001 this is my feeling too, but I'm unsure where to start | 17:40 |
| lardman | a page like the PIM one, asking what features people would like? | 17:41 |
| qgil | the thing is that, in this case, a team could take over almost completely | 17:41 |
| qgil | since the app is as free as the application manager | 17:42 |
| GAN8001 | For open development, I kinda get the feeling that the dev community is stretched a little thin to start driving Nokia applications forward. | 17:42 |
| qgil | but less critical, so to say | 17:42 |
| zakkm | ... i enter password in sshing to my nokia | 17:42 |
| qgil | lixe the osso-xterm, but for a different audience. :) | 17:42 |
| zakkm | but it says permission denied | 17:42 |
| lardman | GAN8001: it just needs one person who's really interested to start pushing it I suppose | 17:42 |
| GAN8001 | zakkm, connection refused or are you just entering the wrong password? | 17:43 |
| qgil | this is why I was asking about this http://maemo.org/downloads/product/OS2008/feedcircuit/ | 17:43 |
| zakkm | im entering the right password.. and no connection refused | 17:43 |
| zakkm | zak@192.168.0.198's password: | 17:43 |
| zakkm | Permission denied (publickey,password). | 17:43 |
| *** cmvo_ is now known as cmvo | 17:44 | |
| qgil | well, it's in extras so the guy has done some homework | 17:44 |
| qgil | I'll try it over the weekend | 17:44 |
| qgil | anyway, have to go - see you! | 17:44 |
| GAN8001 | I think getting some wheels moving on h-a-m's open development and seeing the beta SDK will help get people interested in these open projects. | 17:44 |
| GAN8001 | Later. | 17:44 |
| qgil | GAN8001 - agreed, hopefully git.maemo.org will play a role as well | 17:45 |
| qgil | bye | 17:45 |
| *** qgil has left #maemo | 17:45 | |
| oli | zakkm: try ssh root@127.0.0.1 on nokia and tell does it work | 17:45 |
| fnordianslip | i tend to use the iphone version of google reader in the browser, which looks nice. a standalone reader that worked similarly would be cool, i think - http://www.google.com/reader/i/ | 17:45 |
| zakkm | oli: im reinstalling openssh on nokia.. but ill try that, thanks :) | 17:46 |
| fnordianslip | its a bit like netnewswire, which i like on the Mac | 17:46 |
| zakkm | ;o | 17:46 |
| zakkm | i have a mac :) | 17:46 |
| zakkm | heyyy oli: it worked :D thank youu | 17:47 |
| fnordianslip | i have two, but i have more linux boxes | 17:47 |
| zakkm | your probably older too ;p | 17:48 |
| fnordianslip | git | 17:48 |
| fnordianslip | lols | 17:48 |
| oli | hm, would anyone help me with setting up a SIP account on my n800? | 17:48 |
| zakkm | oli: what sip ? | 17:48 |
| oli | sipphone | 17:48 |
| zakkm | uhh onesec | 17:49 |
| oli | it works on a PC client | 17:49 |
| zakkm | there was a guide i followeed to setup sipphone on mine | 17:49 |
| oli | but nokia can't even connect to the server | 17:49 |
| *** r2d2rogers has quit IRC | 17:49 | |
| zakkm | yeah you gotta mess with server pages | 17:49 |
| zakkm | http://www.internettablettalk.com/wiki/index.php?title=HOW_TO:_SIP_Setup_for_VoipDiscount%2C_VoipBuster%2C_etc. | 17:50 |
| zakkm | step 3b: ... | 17:50 |
| *** AStorm has joined #maemo | 17:50 | |
| *** rmoravcik has left #maemo | 17:51 | |
| zakkm | dont laugh please but would ssh -X or something work ..? to see nokia's screen on my mac? | 17:52 |
| oli | zakkm: try installing x11vnc | 17:53 |
| oli | it's a vnc server | 17:53 |
| zakkm | nokia can be the server though. or just client? | 17:53 |
| oli | server | 17:54 |
| oli | and client too | 17:54 |
| zakkm | oh sweet :) | 17:54 |
| zakkm | ssh'ing nokia helps so much :D | 17:55 |
| *** mk500 has joined #maemo | 17:56 | |
| oli | zakkm: http://i42.tinypic.com/25s7mza.jpg | 17:57 |
| zakkm | zune theme :) | 17:57 |
| zakkm | sorry , i love to skin | 17:57 |
| zakkm | would that work well on mac ? | 17:57 |
| *** calvaris has joined #maemo | 17:57 | |
| GAN8001 | Chicken of the VNC | 17:57 |
| zakkm | so i install x11vnc on nokia.. and chicken of the vnc on my mac? | 17:58 |
| *** hannesw has quit IRC | 18:01 | |
| *** dneary has joined #maemo | 18:01 | |
| lcuk | what a day from hell | 18:01 |
| zakkm | lcuk: what happened | 18:01 |
| AStorm | lcuk, hehe | 18:01 |
| *** t_s_o has joined #maemo | 18:01 | |
| lcuk | 5am this morning eldest screamed that jake was having a fit | 18:01 |
| lcuk | :( its the worst thing ive ever seen | 18:02 |
| AStorm | oh | 18:02 |
| zakkm | "unknown rectangle encoding 2097156 -> exiting ........... <--- vncing the nokia error ? | 18:02 |
| dneary | lcuk: One of your kids? How old is Jake? | 18:02 |
| *** calvaris_ has quit IRC | 18:03 | |
| lcuk | hes 6 1/2, outside the normal "expected" range for femitile(sp?) fits | 18:03 |
| *** booiiing has quit IRC | 18:05 | |
| zakkm | sh-3.2# ./flasher.macosx -f -F RX-34_DIABLO_5.2008.43-7_PR_COMBINED_MR0_ARM.bin --flash-only=kernel -R | 18:07 |
| zakkm | Invalid FIASCO subblock count (2) | 18:07 |
| zakkm | any ideas? | 18:07 |
| AStorm | what fits? :P | 18:07 |
| *** matt_c has quit IRC | 18:08 | |
| AStorm | broken download? | 18:08 |
| zakkm | it finished fine | 18:08 |
| zakkm | never had a broken download on my mac before? | 18:08 |
| zakkm | dont want to reboot into linux :( | 18:09 |
| AStorm | broken flasher then | 18:11 |
| zakkm | ./flasher.macosx -F RX-34_DIABLO_5.2008.43-7_PR_COMBINED_MR0_ARM.bin --flash-only=kernel -R | 18:12 |
| zakkm | does that sound right? | 18:12 |
| *** Sargun has quit IRC | 18:13 | |
| *** madhav has joined #maemo | 18:17 | |
| *** zaaakkkkk has joined #Maemo | 18:18 | |
| *** geaaru has quit IRC | 18:20 | |
| *** aloisiojr has joined #maemo | 18:20 | |
| *** booiiing has joined #maemo | 18:22 | |
| *** zaaakkkkk has quit IRC | 18:23 | |
| *** bergie has quit IRC | 18:23 | |
| *** b-man has joined #maemo | 18:24 | |
| *** trickie has quit IRC | 18:26 | |
| *** matt_c has joined #maemo | 18:27 | |
| *** matt_c has quit IRC | 18:29 | |
| *** matt_c has joined #maemo | 18:29 | |
| *** greentux has quit IRC | 18:30 | |
| *** bilboed has joined #maemo | 18:30 | |
| *** Sho_ has quit IRC | 18:30 | |
| *** _johny has quit IRC | 18:30 | |
| *** qwerty12 has quit IRC | 18:36 | |
| AStorm | hello again | 18:37 |
| *** ab has quit IRC | 18:37 | |
| AStorm | do you know of a nice transparent "tunnel" that can autostart an ssh session? | 18:38 |
| *** setanta has joined #maemo | 18:38 | |
| *** qwerty12 has joined #maemo | 18:38 | |
| AStorm | and use that for tunneling | 18:38 |
| AStorm | so that I don't have to manually restart the session | 18:38 |
| AStorm | instead just connect to the port and the tunnel will start | 18:39 |
| oli | any SIP account doesnt work :| | 18:39 |
| GAN8001 | zakkm, restart x11vnc | 18:42 |
| GAN8001 | lcuk, :( | 18:42 |
| zakkm | GAN8001: i did | 18:42 |
| zakkm | oli: follow that guide? | 18:42 |
| AStorm | hey | 18:43 |
| AStorm | do we have a xinetd build for maemo? | 18:43 |
| AStorm | I need it for autostarting of ssh sessions | 18:43 |
| *** born2wonder has joined #maemo | 18:44 | |
| oli | zakkm: i've followed, i've tried 2 sip providers and nothing | 18:46 |
| * born2wonder is away: I'm busy | 18:46 | |
| AStorm | Stskeeps, could you build a package? | 18:46 |
| *** zakkm has quit IRC | 18:46 | |
| AStorm | born2wonder, public away is evil, disable | 18:46 |
| AStorm | oli, you're probably firewalled or natted | 18:46 |
| AStorm | so, could some kind sould build me a xinetd deb? | 18:47 |
| *** eichi has joined #maemo | 18:47 | |
| oli | AStorm: net works, pinging the prov. domain too, and gtalk accounts works ok | 18:47 |
| AStorm | that's not enough | 18:47 |
| *** eocanha has quit IRC | 18:48 | |
| AStorm | for sip, you need two-way communication | 18:48 |
| AStorm | esp. incoming connections | 18:48 |
| AStorm | or a sip proxy :) | 18:48 |
| GAN8001 | oli, did you configure STUN and everything? | 18:48 |
| oli | yeah, i set up the outbound proxy | 18:48 |
| GAN8001 | proxy01.sipphone.com etc? | 18:49 |
| oli | yep. | 18:49 |
| * born2wonder is back (gone 00:03:22) | 18:49 | |
| AStorm | stun is not enough sometimes | 18:49 |
| AStorm | it tries to bust the firewall | 18:49 |
| born2wonder | @Astorm , why | 18:49 |
| GAN8001 | born2wonder, please don't do public aways in here. :) | 18:49 |
| oli | maybe I will take screenshots of configuration screen | 18:49 |
| born2wonder | ok sure, just never really used irc .. | 18:50 |
| GAN8001 | born2wonder, it basically amounts to spam. ;) | 18:50 |
| GAN8001 | Unless you're really, really important, nobody really cares whether or not you're AFK. :P | 18:50 |
| AStorm | born2wonder, http://sackheads.org/~bnaylor/spew/away_msgs.html | 18:51 |
| AStorm | :) | 18:51 |
| born2wonder | lol | 18:51 |
| born2wonder | good point | 18:51 |
| AStorm | ok | 18:52 |
| *** calvaris has quit IRC | 18:52 | |
| AStorm | so I'm still short of xinetd | 18:52 |
| AStorm | who volunteers for a build? | 18:52 |
| born2wonder | by the way can the great debian scripts for auto completion in bash be added in mer? | 18:52 |
| AStorm | born2wonder, ask stskeeps | 18:53 |
| born2wonder | ok | 18:53 |
| *** murrayc has quit IRC | 18:53 | |
| *** zap has joined #maemo | 18:55 | |
| AStorm | ehh | 18:57 |
| AStorm | no one with sb1 wanting to build me a xinetd package is around? | 18:58 |
| qwerty12 | should have asked when I was still in Linux :P | 18:58 |
| AStorm | I tried | 18:59 |
| AStorm | half an hour ago | 18:59 |
| *** blade_runner has joined #maemo | 19:00 | |
| *** t_s_o has quit IRC | 19:01 | |
| GAN8001 | qwerty12 is becoming remiss in his responsibilities. :P | 19:01 |
| AStorm | hehehe | 19:01 |
| AStorm | ok, so. Could *anyone* please build a package | 19:01 |
| qwerty12 | What can I say? Being internationally known & locally respected does sometimes lead to problems :P :D | 19:02 |
| AStorm | or submit xinetd deb to extras-devel? | 19:02 |
| AStorm | (or tell me how I can do that) | 19:02 |
| * GAN800 wonders what's eating battery so quickly. | 19:03 | |
| AStorm | top, use it | 19:03 |
| AStorm | and enable ondemand/conservative sched | 19:04 |
| AStorm | also, wifi being active eats battery | 19:04 |
| AStorm | also, stupid SSU disables extras repo | 19:05 |
| AStorm | :P | 19:05 |
| *** harryl has joined #maemo | 19:05 | |
| *** yerga has quit IRC | 19:06 | |
| oli | can any one check -> http://www.oli.yoyo.pl/sip/ (screenshots related to my SIP problem ;) | 19:06 |
| GAN800 | AStorm, it's been fixed. | 19:06 |
| *** Dar_AFK has quit IRC | 19:07 | |
| AStorm | gan800, not in latest | 19:07 |
| AStorm | :P | 19:07 |
| AStorm | it did disable that | 19:07 |
| *** gentooer has joined #maemo | 19:07 | |
| GAN800 | AStorm, it'll take one release for the fix to take effect. | 19:07 |
| GAN800 | But it's been fixed. | 19:07 |
| AStorm | mhm | 19:07 |
| AStorm | whatever | 19:08 |
| GAN800 | oli, I thought you were using sipphone. | 19:08 |
| AStorm | ok, so build me that xinetd :) | 19:08 |
| *** oyvind_ has joined #maemo | 19:08 | |
| GAN800 | AStorm, buy me a computer I can install the SDK on. | 19:08 |
| AStorm | heh | 19:09 |
| oli | GAN800: I'd thought that it could depend of provider so i checked sip2sip, but with the same result | 19:09 |
| *** luogni has quit IRC | 19:09 | |
| AStorm | ok, another idea | 19:09 |
| AStorm | how do I submit a package for extras-devel autobuilder? | 19:09 |
| *** kimitake has joined #maemo | 19:09 | |
| qwerty12 | ~upload-extras | 19:09 |
| infobot | upload-extras is probably http://wiki.maemo.org/Uploading_to_Extras | 19:09 |
| GAN800 | ~upload-extras | 19:10 |
| qwerty12 | But you need an invite first | 19:10 |
| AStorm | ok | 19:10 |
| AStorm | drat | 19:10 |
| AStorm | I don't have one | 19:10 |
| AStorm | qwerty12, so, could you drop xinetd into it? | 19:10 |
| AStorm | (it has a debian package) | 19:10 |
| oli | GAN800: what do you think I should do? | 19:11 |
| qwerty12 | astorm, hmm, dunno, I don't really like sending stuff to the autobuilder unless I've checked it creates no problems when I compile in sbox | 19:11 |
| AStorm | what problems can xinetd create? | 19:11 |
| AStorm | :P | 19:11 |
| qwerty12 | I can't do it anyway, I need to generate a changes file and I'm in windows :P | 19:12 |
| AStorm | GAN800, then maybe you? | 19:12 |
| *** kimitake has quit IRC | 19:13 | |
| GAN8001 | AStorm, I don't have a machine I can install the SDK on. | 19:13 |
| *** kimitake has joined #maemo | 19:13 | |
| AStorm | you don't need one | 19:13 |
| AStorm | you need submit rights to extras | 19:13 |
| AStorm | :P | 19:13 |
| GAN8001 | I don't have a machine I can put together deb packages on. | 19:13 |
| AStorm | there is one already | 19:14 |
| GAN8001 | Nor do I have upload permissions. | 19:14 |
| AStorm | debian's | 19:14 |
| AStorm | ouch | 19:14 |
| oli | ... :P | 19:14 |
| AStorm | guess I'm SOL | 19:14 |
| *** melmoth has quit IRC | 19:15 | |
| AStorm | what about that "extras-assistant"? | 19:16 |
| qwerty12 | You need a invite to use it | 19:16 |
| *** mlpug has joined #maemo | 19:16 | |
| qwerty12 | + a changes file | 19:16 |
| qwerty12 | which you get when you make a source package in scratchbox | 19:17 |
| qwerty12 | it probably could be done by hand but too long | 19:17 |
| AStorm | blah | 19:17 |
| pupnik_ | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sKKMj37Psd8&feature=channel_page angstrom on pandora, claws mail... | 19:18 |
| AStorm | I also need someone to build me btrfs-unstable | 19:18 |
| AStorm | and related tools :) | 19:19 |
| AStorm | that, or a way to set up sb1 w/o downloading hundreds of MB | 19:19 |
| GAN8001 | pupnik_, seeing other mobile UIs, it's amazing how polished Maemo looks in comparison. | 19:20 |
| AStorm | :P | 19:20 |
| GAN8001 | Will the Pandora have accelerometers? | 19:21 |
| pupnik_ | iirc no | 19:21 |
| pupnik_ | look at that ugly vkbd | 19:21 |
| GAN8001 | matchbox-kb | 19:21 |
| *** mlpug has joined #maemo | 19:21 | |
| pupnik_ | XMMS! woot! | 19:22 |
| pupnik_ | nice and fast | 19:22 |
| *** kcome has quit IRC | 19:23 | |
| oli | Help, please ;) oli.yoyo.pl/sip/ | 19:23 |
| GAN8001 | Take any of that awesome and multiply it by 100 and you've got RX-51 | 19:23 |
| GAN8001 | oli, it may not be autodetecting the STUN server. | 19:24 |
| AStorm | or your firewall might actually be well designed | 19:25 |
| oli | STUN doesn't depend on sip provider? | 19:25 |
| AStorm | and unable to be tricked by STUN | 19:25 |
| AStorm | it doesn't | 19:25 |
| *** rm_you has quit IRC | 19:25 | |
| oyvind_ | I used the "Clone OS to SD Deb!! Boot from SD made EASY!!" from penguinbait post, when my OS was updated a couple days ago the bootloader disappeared, and it automatically boots to the original install. | 19:26 |
| GAN8001 | ~boot-sd | 19:26 |
| infobot | i heard boot-sd is https://wiki.maemo.org/Booting_from_a_flash_card | 19:26 |
| oli | hm, (INTERNET) <adsl line> (MODEM) <usb cable> (PC) <wireless ad-hoc network> (N800) | 19:26 |
| AStorm | you need to reinstall the deb | 19:26 |
| disco_stu | no no | 19:26 |
| AStorm | ok | 19:26 |
| disco_stu | reinstallin will reclone | 19:26 |
| AStorm | the PC | 19:26 |
| AStorm | is doing some NAT | 19:27 |
| disco_stu | he will loose the update | 19:27 |
| AStorm | hehe | 19:27 |
| AStorm | ok, then | 19:27 |
| AStorm | you need to update initfs | 19:27 |
| disco_stu | you need to go to /root/ | 19:27 |
| disco_stu | and reflash with the fil in there | 19:28 |
| disco_stu | dont remember the name now | 19:28 |
| *** born2wonder has quit IRC | 19:28 | |
| dneary | lcuk: Is it epilepsy? | 19:29 |
| disco_stu | /root/install_tools i guess | 19:29 |
| oli | but even with no STUN i should login to server, shouldn't I ? | 19:29 |
| AStorm | dneary, imo it's just a pissed off 6yo guy | 19:30 |
| lcuk | the doctors cannot say, hes a bit old for a febrile seizure (got spelling now) but not so far out that its not possible. hes had a virus for a couple of weeks so was already zapped of energy | 19:30 |
| oyvind_ | DoI need to reinstall bootloader or just activate the old one? | 19:30 |
| AStorm | ah, that | 19:31 |
| AStorm | these fits | 19:31 |
| lcuk | singular so far and hopefully | 19:31 |
| AStorm | probably still possible, but might be something more insidious | 19:32 |
| *** rm_you| has joined #maemo | 19:32 | |
| AStorm | btw, never use aspirin in children | 19:32 |
| AStorm | :> | 19:32 |
| AStorm | just a reminder | 19:33 |
| lcuk | we dont, paracetamol and kiddie ibuprofen as required | 19:34 |
| *** eichi has quit IRC | 19:35 | |
| AStorm | lcuk, maybe you can build me that xinetd, if you're not busy I mean | 19:35 |
| *** kimitake has quit IRC | 19:35 | |
| AStorm | ~scratchbox | 19:36 |
| infobot | extra, extra, read all about it, scratchbox is a cross-compiling system that uses binfmt_misc, rpc calls, and an nfs mount to make a cross-build appear to be 100% native, and is found at http://www.scratchbox.org/ | 19:36 |
| AStorm | no | 19:36 |
| GAN8001 | penguinbait's .deb's are so evil. :\ | 19:36 |
| lcuk | xined? | 19:36 |
| AStorm | I want the guide | 19:36 |
| lcuk | xinetd? | 19:36 |
| AStorm | lcuk, xinetd | 19:36 |
| AStorm | yes | 19:36 |
| GAN8001 | They make it easy initially, but just lead to a lot of trouble later on. | 19:36 |
| AStorm | I want to use it to autostart ssh sessions | 19:37 |
| AStorm | uhm, ssh tunnels | 19:37 |
| lcuk | ive not got scratchbox at the mo | 19:37 |
| *** eichi has joined #maemo | 19:38 | |
| AStorm | but you have the extras account | 19:38 |
| AStorm | and could upload debian's deb for it | 19:38 |
| dneary | lcuk: All OK in the end? | 19:38 |
| GAN8001 | AStorm is actually trying to get somebody to upload a virus. :P | 19:38 |
| AStorm | ah, no :> | 19:38 |
| AStorm | nah | 19:38 |
| AStorm | xinetd, not some virus | 19:39 |
| lcuk | think so, his temp is up and down - somethings goin through him | 19:39 |
| oyvind_ | I just reinstall the deb, dosent take ling to install my favorite programs, the script has worked great before the update | 19:39 |
| AStorm | no | 19:40 |
| AStorm | at least | 19:40 |
| AStorm | first update your "old system" with the latest SSU | 19:40 |
| *** vivijim has joined #maemo | 19:48 | |
| *** Sargun has joined #maemo | 19:48 | |
| *** kimitake has joined #maemo | 19:49 | |
| *** madhav has quit IRC | 19:51 | |
| *** madhav has joined #maemo | 19:51 | |
| *** qwerty12 has quit IRC | 19:58 | |
| AStorm | ... I really need that xinetd | 19:59 |
| AStorm | ~scratchbox-howto | 19:59 |
| *** eichi has quit IRC | 19:59 | |
| AStorm | ehh | 20:01 |
| *** florian has quit IRC | 20:01 | |
| lcuk | AStorm, i found it simplest to just use the vmware image | 20:01 |
| AStorm | which is 4G | 20:01 |
| AStorm | thank you very much | 20:01 |
| AStorm | my 64k would love it | 20:01 |
| AStorm | and my disk would just be enamored | 20:02 |
| lcuk | heh understood | 20:02 |
| *** cyrus__ has joined #maemo | 20:03 | |
| cyrus__ | Does the N800 use a tsc2005 while the N810 use tsc2301 | 20:03 |
| AStorm | yes | 20:03 |
| *** AD-N770 has quit IRC | 20:04 | |
| cyrus__ | can you tell me what, if any is the difference between those two drivers? | 20:04 |
| cyrus__ | reason I ask is that the current android port out there for the n810 uses the tsc2005 | 20:04 |
| AStorm | try diffing them | 20:04 |
| cyrus__ | I tried enavling the tsc2301 but it failed to initialize | 20:05 |
| AStorm | or maybe I was wrong | 20:05 |
| *** geaaru has joined #maemo | 20:07 | |
| AStorm | best way is to check | 20:07 |
| AStorm | anyway | 20:07 |
| AStorm | cyrus__, if you have the nokia kernel and toolchain ready, could you build btrfs-unstable from gitand btrfs-progs-unstable from git too? | 20:07 |
| AStorm | meh | 20:09 |
| AStorm | maybe I should do it myself | 20:09 |
| AStorm | where's the "build stuff in scratchbox" howto? | 20:09 |
| *** _acyd_ has joined #maemo | 20:09 | |
| cyrus__ | AStorm - what is btrfs-unstable | 20:09 |
| *** greentux has joined #maemo | 20:15 | |
| *** murrayc has joined #maemo | 20:15 | |
| *** acydlord has quit IRC | 20:15 | |
| AStorm | cyrus__, filesystem | 20:15 |
| AStorm | unstable branch of btrfs | 20:15 |
| *** krau has joined #maemo | 20:15 | |
| AStorm | (git is at git.kernel.org, ~mason one) | 20:15 |
| *** pupnik_ is now known as pupnik | 20:16 | |
| AStorm | ok, so how do I grab the fresh scratchbox env now? | 20:19 |
| *** guerby has quit IRC | 20:26 | |
| *** fab__ has quit IRC | 20:26 | |
| *** GuySoft has quit IRC | 20:26 | |
| *** caio1982 has quit IRC | 20:26 | |
| *** pcfe has quit IRC | 20:26 | |
| *** Luria has quit IRC | 20:26 | |
| *** legind_ has quit IRC | 20:26 | |
| *** GAN8001 has quit IRC | 20:26 | |
| *** bstock has quit IRC | 20:26 | |
| *** Jaffa has quit IRC | 20:26 | |
| *** _closure has quit IRC | 20:26 | |
| *** xorAxAx has quit IRC | 20:26 | |
| *** rtp has quit IRC | 20:26 | |
| *** MiskaX has quit IRC | 20:26 | |
| *** GeneralAntilles has quit IRC | 20:26 | |
| *** onion_ has quit IRC | 20:26 | |
| *** murrayc has quit IRC | 20:26 | |
| *** borism___ has quit IRC | 20:26 | |
| *** _berto_ has quit IRC | 20:26 | |
| *** Khertan_n810 has quit IRC | 20:26 | |
| *** fie_ has quit IRC | 20:26 | |
| *** bmidgley has quit IRC | 20:26 | |
| *** glass has quit IRC | 20:26 | |
| *** anima has quit IRC | 20:26 | |
| *** solmumaha has quit IRC | 20:26 | |
| *** LiraNuna has quit IRC | 20:26 | |
| *** riot has quit IRC | 20:26 | |
| *** dob has quit IRC | 20:26 | |
| *** kad has quit IRC | 20:26 | |
| *** mikkov_ has quit IRC | 20:26 | |
| *** bearclaw_ has quit IRC | 20:26 | |
| *** Norrit_ has quit IRC | 20:26 | |
| *** karbas has quit IRC | 20:26 | |
| *** taplax has quit IRC | 20:26 | |
| *** solarion has quit IRC | 20:26 | |
| *** jumpula has quit IRC | 20:26 | |
| *** bergwolf has quit IRC | 20:26 | |
| *** madhav has quit IRC | 20:26 | |
| *** rm_you| has quit IRC | 20:26 | |
| *** booiiing has quit IRC | 20:26 | |
| *** croppa has quit IRC | 20:26 | |
| *** Ryback_ has quit IRC | 20:26 | |
| *** krutt has quit IRC | 20:26 | |
| *** simboss has quit IRC | 20:26 | |
| *** l7 has quit IRC | 20:26 | |
| *** lcuk has quit IRC | 20:26 | |
| *** Aisling_ has quit IRC | 20:26 | |
| *** john_G has quit IRC | 20:26 | |
| *** rwhitby has quit IRC | 20:26 | |
| *** ljp has quit IRC | 20:26 | |
| *** ccooke has quit IRC | 20:26 | |
| *** ddenis has quit IRC | 20:26 | |
| *** VRe has quit IRC | 20:26 | |
| *** tuukkah has quit IRC | 20:26 | |
| *** jkyro has quit IRC | 20:26 | |
| *** hap has quit IRC | 20:26 | |
| *** flatface_ has quit IRC | 20:26 | |
| *** kaatis has quit IRC | 20:26 | |
| *** summatusmentis has quit IRC | 20:26 | |
| *** Neithan has quit IRC | 20:26 | |
| *** _acyd_ has quit IRC | 20:26 | |
| *** geaaru has quit IRC | 20:26 | |
| *** harryl has quit IRC | 20:26 | |
| *** oyvind_ has quit IRC | 20:26 | |
| *** bilboed has quit IRC | 20:26 | |
| *** b-man has quit IRC | 20:26 | |
| *** AStorm has quit IRC | 20:26 | |
| *** Meiz_n810 has quit IRC | 20:26 | |
| *** cyrus__ has quit IRC | 20:26 | |
| *** t0h has quit IRC | 20:26 | |
| *** ijon_ has quit IRC | 20:26 | |
| *** MoRpHeUz has quit IRC | 20:26 | |
| *** rsalveti has quit IRC | 20:26 | |
| *** straind has quit IRC | 20:26 | |
| *** dforsyth has quit IRC | 20:26 | |
| *** svu has quit IRC | 20:26 | |
| *** bipolar has quit IRC | 20:26 | |
| *** cmvo has quit IRC | 20:26 | |
| *** Sakkath has quit IRC | 20:26 | |
| *** philipl has quit IRC | 20:26 | |
| *** soap has quit IRC | 20:26 | |
| *** briand has quit IRC | 20:26 | |
| *** kimitake has quit IRC | 20:26 | |
| *** Sargun has quit IRC | 20:26 | |
| *** mk500 has quit IRC | 20:26 | |
| *** tchan has quit IRC | 20:26 | |
| *** guardian has quit IRC | 20:26 | |
| *** lardman has quit IRC | 20:26 | |
| *** chenca has quit IRC | 20:26 | |
| *** luck^ has quit IRC | 20:26 | |
| *** mgedmin has quit IRC | 20:26 | |
| *** oilinki has quit IRC | 20:26 | |
| *** lmoura has quit IRC | 20:26 | |
| *** disq has quit IRC | 20:26 | |
| *** hoene has quit IRC | 20:26 | |
| *** emma has quit IRC | 20:26 | |
| *** asedeno has quit IRC | 20:26 | |
| *** else58 has quit IRC | 20:26 | |
| *** RST38h has quit IRC | 20:26 | |
| *** lsobral has quit IRC | 20:26 | |
| *** sanders has quit IRC | 20:26 | |
| *** LoCusF has quit IRC | 20:26 | |
| *** marcoil has quit IRC | 20:26 | |
| *** Veggen has quit IRC | 20:26 | |
| *** tmielika_ has quit IRC | 20:26 | |
| *** Macer has quit IRC | 20:26 | |
| *** lubyou has quit IRC | 20:26 | |
| *** jrayhawk has quit IRC | 20:26 | |
| *** Vudentz has quit IRC | 20:26 | |
| *** renato has quit IRC | 20:26 | |
| *** fuz_ has quit IRC | 20:26 | |
| *** krau has quit IRC | 20:26 | |
| *** vivijim has quit IRC | 20:26 | |
| *** blade_runner has quit IRC | 20:26 | |
| *** aloisiojr has quit IRC | 20:26 | |
| *** etrunko has quit IRC | 20:26 | |
| *** baaba has quit IRC | 20:26 | |
| *** fnordianslip has quit IRC | 20:26 | |
| *** efleury has quit IRC | 20:26 | |
| *** ch4os has quit IRC | 20:26 | |
| *** danilocesar has quit IRC | 20:26 | |
| *** ||cw has quit IRC | 20:26 | |
| *** troyh has quit IRC | 20:26 | |
| *** Tuco1 has quit IRC | 20:26 | |
| *** drjnut has quit IRC | 20:26 | |
| *** Gary has quit IRC | 20:26 | |
| *** deejoe has quit IRC | 20:26 | |
| *** ChanServ has quit IRC | 20:26 | |
| *** greentux has quit IRC | 20:26 | |
| *** matt_c has quit IRC | 20:26 | |
| *** hellwolf has quit IRC | 20:26 | |
| *** mariorz has quit IRC | 20:26 | |
| *** eXeonical has quit IRC | 20:26 | |
| *** `Mace has quit IRC | 20:26 | |
| *** christendoc has quit IRC | 20:26 | |
| *** Stskeeps has quit IRC | 20:26 | |
| *** pyhimys has quit IRC | 20:26 | |
| *** jaska has quit IRC | 20:26 | |
| *** Mikho has quit IRC | 20:26 | |
| *** RP has quit IRC | 20:26 | |
| *** Hirvinen has quit IRC | 20:26 | |
| *** kulve has quit IRC | 20:26 | |
| *** Robot101 has quit IRC | 20:26 | |
| *** zap has quit IRC | 20:26 | |
| *** Belagern has quit IRC | 20:26 | |
| *** ciroip has quit IRC | 20:26 | |
| *** pvanhoof has quit IRC | 20:26 | |
| *** Zic has quit IRC | 20:26 | |
| *** inherited has quit IRC | 20:26 | |
| *** punk-ass has quit IRC | 20:26 | |
| *** keesj has quit IRC | 20:26 | |
| *** Schnouki has quit IRC | 20:26 | |
| *** `0660 has quit IRC | 20:26 | |
| *** lool has quit IRC | 20:26 | |
| *** setanta has quit IRC | 20:26 | |
| *** simon__ has quit IRC | 20:26 | |
| *** GAN800 has quit IRC | 20:26 | |
| *** Blafasel_ has quit IRC | 20:26 | |
| *** nelson has quit IRC | 20:26 | |
| *** cyndis has quit IRC | 20:26 | |
| *** k-s has quit IRC | 20:26 | |
| *** mortti_ has quit IRC | 20:26 | |
| *** aquatix has quit IRC | 20:26 | |
| *** fysa has quit IRC | 20:26 | |
| *** befr0d has quit IRC | 20:26 | |
| *** mavhc has quit IRC | 20:26 | |
| *** dragorn has quit IRC | 20:26 | |
| *** IRSeekBot has quit IRC | 20:26 | |
| *** rmrfchik has quit IRC | 20:26 | |
| *** tank-man has quit IRC | 20:26 | |
| *** k`sOSe has quit IRC | 20:26 | |
| *** ds3 has quit IRC | 20:26 | |
| *** TTilus has quit IRC | 20:26 | |
| *** kaltsi has quit IRC | 20:26 | |
| *** gentooer has quit IRC | 20:26 | |
| *** edt has quit IRC | 20:26 | |
| *** redcomet has quit IRC | 20:26 | |
| *** flavioribeiro has quit IRC | 20:26 | |
| *** ignacius has quit IRC | 20:26 | |
| *** herzi has quit IRC | 20:26 | |
| *** chelli has quit IRC | 20:26 | |
| *** ttmrichter_ has quit IRC | 20:26 | |
| *** Grackle has quit IRC | 20:26 | |
| *** |thunder has quit IRC | 20:26 | |
| *** Disconnect has quit IRC | 20:26 | |
| *** chouse has quit IRC | 20:26 | |
| *** _freelikegnu has quit IRC | 20:26 | |
| *** gletelli__ has quit IRC | 20:26 | |
| *** wjt has quit IRC | 20:26 | |
| *** BULLE has quit IRC | 20:26 | |
| *** jjo has quit IRC | 20:26 | |
| *** lir1 has quit IRC | 20:26 | |
| *** timeless has quit IRC | 20:26 | |
| *** JunnuX has quit IRC | 20:26 | |
| *** mat has quit IRC | 20:26 | |
| *** dneary has quit IRC | 20:26 | |
| *** cjdavis has quit IRC | 20:26 | |
| *** romaxa has quit IRC | 20:26 | |
| *** Pio has quit IRC | 20:26 | |
| *** sp3000 has quit IRC | 20:26 | |
| *** aquarius- has quit IRC | 20:26 | |
| *** w00t has quit IRC | 20:26 | |
| *** infobot has quit IRC | 20:26 | |
| *** ShadowJK_ has quit IRC | 20:26 | |
| *** Pavlov has quit IRC | 20:26 | |
| *** suihkulokki has quit IRC | 20:26 | |
| *** nomis has quit IRC | 20:26 | |
| *** lfelipe has quit IRC | 20:26 | |
| *** towo has quit IRC | 20:26 | |
| *** sneakret has quit IRC | 20:26 | |
| *** jott has quit IRC | 20:26 | |
| *** mlpug has quit IRC | 20:26 | |
| *** maddler has quit IRC | 20:26 | |
| *** Navi has quit IRC | 20:26 | |
| *** johnx has quit IRC | 20:26 | |
| *** disco_stu has quit IRC | 20:26 | |
| *** dev has quit IRC | 20:26 | |
| *** robink has quit IRC | 20:26 | |
| *** nikosapi has quit IRC | 20:26 | |
| *** Summeli has quit IRC | 20:26 | |
| *** herwood has quit IRC | 20:26 | |
| *** MikaT has quit IRC | 20:26 | |
| *** cy3o3 has quit IRC | 20:26 | |
| *** ryoohki has quit IRC | 20:26 | |
| *** solca has quit IRC | 20:26 | |
| *** jpnurmi has quit IRC | 20:26 | |
| *** denny has quit IRC | 20:26 | |
| *** lele has quit IRC | 20:26 | |
| *** sibbe has quit IRC | 20:26 | |
| *** inz has quit IRC | 20:26 | |
| *** Astro- has quit IRC | 20:26 | |
| *** alextreme has quit IRC | 20:26 | |
| *** dlmarti has quit IRC | 20:26 | |
| *** Dasajev has quit IRC | 20:26 | |
| *** ToyKeeper has quit IRC | 20:26 | |
| *** andrunko has quit IRC | 20:26 | |
| *** zeenix has quit IRC | 20:26 | |
| *** pupnik has quit IRC | 20:26 | |
| *** juergbi has quit IRC | 20:26 | |
| *** derf has quit IRC | 20:26 | |
| *** Juhaz has quit IRC | 20:26 | |
| *** dystopia has quit IRC | 20:26 | |
| *** pdz has quit IRC | 20:26 | |
| *** vcgomes has quit IRC | 20:26 | |
| *** trenka has quit IRC | 20:26 | |
| *** kabtoffe has quit IRC | 20:26 | |
| *** EgS has quit IRC | 20:26 | |
| *** wanders has quit IRC | 20:26 | |
| *** tabletee1 has quit IRC | 20:26 | |
| *** Jiten has quit IRC | 20:26 | |
| *** script has quit IRC | 20:26 | |
| *** Firehand has quit IRC | 20:26 | |
| *** wiza has quit IRC | 20:26 | |
| *** akiniemi has quit IRC | 20:26 | |
| *** X-Fade has quit IRC | 20:26 | |
| *** wnd has quit IRC | 20:26 | |
| *** [pablo] has quit IRC | 20:26 | |
| *** teprrr has quit IRC | 20:26 | |
| *** Proteous has quit IRC | 20:26 | |
| *** ChanServ has joined #maemo | 20:36 | |
| *** dick-richardson has joined #maemo | 20:36 | |
| *** krau has joined #maemo | 20:36 | |
| *** murrayc has joined #maemo | 20:36 | |
| *** greentux has joined #maemo | 20:36 | |
| *** _acyd_ has joined #maemo | 20:36 | |
| *** geaaru has joined #maemo | 20:36 | |
| *** cyrus__ has joined #maemo | 20:36 | |
| *** madhav has joined #maemo | 20:36 | |
| *** kimitake has joined #maemo | 20:36 | |
| *** vivijim has joined #maemo | 20:36 | |
| *** rm_you| has joined #maemo | 20:36 | |
| *** mlpug has joined #maemo | 20:36 | |
| *** gentooer has joined #maemo | 20:36 | |
| *** harryl has joined #maemo | 20:36 | |
| *** blade_runner has joined #maemo | 20:36 | |
| *** zap has joined #maemo | 20:36 | |
| *** setanta has joined #maemo | 20:36 | |
| *** bilboed has joined #maemo | 20:36 | |
| *** matt_c has joined #maemo | 20:36 | |
| *** b-man has joined #maemo | 20:36 | |
| *** booiiing has joined #maemo | 20:36 | |
| *** aloisiojr has joined #maemo | 20:36 | |
| *** dneary has joined #maemo | 20:36 | |
| *** mk500 has joined #maemo | 20:36 | |
| *** AStorm has joined #maemo | 20:36 | |
| *** Belagern has joined #maemo | 20:36 | |
| *** ciroip has joined #maemo | 20:36 | |
| *** edt has joined #maemo | 20:36 | |
| *** tchan has joined #maemo | 20:36 | |
| *** guardian has joined #maemo | 20:36 | |
| *** fab__ has joined #maemo | 20:36 | |
| *** redcomet has joined #maemo | 20:36 | |
| *** borism___ has joined #maemo | 20:36 | |
| *** lardman has joined #maemo | 20:36 | |
| *** Meiz_n810 has joined #maemo | 20:36 | |
| *** pupnik has joined #maemo | 20:36 | |
| *** etrunko has joined #maemo | 20:36 | |
| *** croppa has joined #maemo | 20:36 | |
| *** flavioribeiro has joined #maemo | 20:36 | |
| *** Ryback_ has joined #maemo | 20:36 | |
| *** t0h has joined #maemo | 20:36 | |
| *** ignacius has joined #maemo | 20:36 | |
| *** chenca has joined #maemo | 20:36 | |
| *** luck^ has joined #maemo | 20:36 | |
| *** ijon_ has joined #maemo | 20:36 | |
| *** Schnouki has joined #maemo | 20:36 | |
| *** MoRpHeUz has joined #maemo | 20:36 | |
| *** baaba has joined #maemo | 20:36 | |
| *** irc.freenode.net sets mode: +o ChanServ | 20:36 | |
| *** caio1982 has joined #maemo | 20:36 | |
| *** lele has joined #maemo | 20:36 | |
| *** fnordianslip has joined #maemo | 20:36 | |
| *** _berto_ has joined #maemo | 20:36 | |
| *** hellwolf has joined #maemo | 20:36 | |
| *** krutt has joined #maemo | 20:36 | |
| *** alextreme has joined #maemo | 20:36 | |
| *** pvanhoof has joined #maemo | 20:36 | |
| *** denny has joined #maemo | 20:36 | |
| *** mgedmin has joined #maemo | 20:36 | |
| *** herzi has joined #maemo | 20:36 | |
| *** simboss has joined #maemo | 20:36 | |
| *** Zic has joined #maemo | 20:36 | |
| *** chelli has joined #maemo | 20:36 | |
| *** ttmrichter_ has joined #maemo | 20:36 | |
| *** Grackle has joined #maemo | 20:36 | |
| *** juergbi has joined #maemo | 20:36 | |
| *** |thunder has joined #maemo | 20:36 | |
| *** oilinki has joined #maemo | 20:36 | |
| *** pcfe has joined #maemo | 20:36 | |
| *** inherited has joined #maemo | 20:36 | |
| *** Luria has joined #maemo | 20:36 | |
| *** lmoura has joined #maemo | 20:36 | |
| *** simon__ has joined #maemo | 20:36 | |
| *** rsalveti has joined #maemo | 20:36 | |
| *** l7 has joined #maemo | 20:36 | |
| *** Dasajev has joined #maemo | 20:36 | |
| *** ToyKeeper has joined #maemo | 20:36 | |
| *** inz has joined #maemo | 20:36 | |
| *** dlmarti has joined #maemo | 20:36 | |
| *** zeenix has joined #maemo | 20:36 | |
| *** sibbe has joined #maemo | 20:36 | |
| *** andrunko has joined #maemo | 20:36 | |
| *** Astro- has joined #maemo | 20:36 | |
| *** lcuk has joined #maemo | 20:36 | |
| *** punk-ass has joined #maemo | 20:36 | |
| *** straind has joined #maemo | 20:36 | |
| *** disq has joined #maemo | 20:36 | |
| *** guerby has joined #maemo | 20:36 | |
| *** Khertan_n810 has joined #maemo | 20:36 | |
| *** fie_ has joined #maemo | 20:36 | |
| *** cjdavis has joined #maemo | 20:36 | |
| *** derf has joined #maemo | 20:36 | |
| *** dforsyth has joined #maemo | 20:36 | |
| *** efleury has joined #maemo | 20:36 | |
| *** svu has joined #maemo | 20:36 | |
| *** Aisling_ has joined #maemo | 20:36 | |
| *** maddler has joined #maemo | 20:36 | |
| *** bipolar has joined #maemo | 20:36 | |
| *** Navi has joined #maemo | 20:36 | |
| *** Disconnect has joined #maemo | 20:36 | |
| *** cmvo has joined #maemo | 20:36 | |
| *** keesj has joined #maemo | 20:36 | |
| *** ch4os has joined #maemo | 20:36 | |
| *** mariorz has joined #maemo | 20:36 | |
| *** GAN800 has joined #maemo | 20:36 | |
| *** Sakkath has joined #maemo | 20:36 | |
| *** Juhaz has joined #maemo | 20:36 | |
| *** romaxa has joined #maemo | 20:36 | |
| *** philipl has joined #maemo | 20:36 | |
| *** `0660 has joined #maemo | 20:36 | |
| *** hoene has joined #maemo | 20:36 | |
| *** chouse has joined #maemo | 20:36 | |
| *** _freelikegnu has joined #maemo | 20:36 | |
| *** eXeonical has joined #maemo | 20:36 | |
| *** dystopia has joined #maemo | 20:36 | |
| *** legind_ has joined #maemo | 20:36 | |
| *** Pio has joined #maemo | 20:36 | |
| *** Blafasel_ has joined #maemo | 20:36 | |
| *** bmidgley has joined #maemo | 20:36 | |
| *** gletelli__ has joined #maemo | 20:36 | |
| *** emma has joined #maemo | 20:36 | |
| *** glass has joined #maemo | 20:36 | |
| *** sp3000 has joined #maemo | 20:36 | |
| *** asedeno has joined #maemo | 20:36 | |
| *** soap has joined #maemo | 20:36 | |
| *** wjt has joined #maemo | 20:36 | |
| *** john_G has joined #maemo | 20:36 | |
| *** danilocesar has joined #maemo | 20:36 | |
| *** GAN8001 has joined #maemo | 20:36 | |
| *** bergwolf has joined #maemo | 20:36 | |
| *** johnx has joined #maemo | 20:36 | |
| *** `Mace has joined #maemo | 20:36 | |
| *** rwhitby has joined #maemo | 20:36 | |
| *** briand has joined #maemo | 20:36 | |
| *** else58 has joined #maemo | 20:36 | |
| *** RST38h has joined #maemo | 20:36 | |
| *** bstock has joined #maemo | 20:36 | |
| *** nelson has joined #maemo | 20:36 | |
| *** lsobral has joined #maemo | 20:36 | |
| *** solmumaha has joined #maemo | 20:36 | |
| *** disco_stu has joined #maemo | 20:36 | |
| *** pdz has joined #maemo | 20:36 | |
| *** ljp has joined #maemo | 20:36 | |
| *** sanders has joined #maemo | 20:36 | |
| *** BULLE has joined #maemo | 20:36 | |
| *** ccooke has joined #maemo | 20:36 | |
| *** ||cw has joined #maemo | 20:36 | |
| *** LoCusF has joined #maemo | 20:36 | |
| *** marcoil has joined #maemo | 20:36 | |
| *** GuySoft has joined #maemo | 20:36 | |
| *** christendoc has joined #maemo | 20:36 | |
| *** Veggen has joined #maemo | 20:36 | |
| *** tmielika_ has joined #maemo | 20:36 | |
| *** Macer has joined #maemo | 20:36 | |
| *** lubyou has joined #maemo | 20:36 | |
| *** Vudentz has joined #maemo | 20:36 | |
| *** renato has joined #maemo | 20:36 | |
| *** fuz_ has joined #maemo | 20:36 | |
| *** jrayhawk has joined #maemo | 20:36 | |
| *** vcgomes has joined #maemo | 20:36 | |
| *** lool has joined #maemo | 20:36 | |
| *** Stskeeps has joined #maemo | 20:36 | |
| *** aquarius- has joined #maemo | 20:36 | |
| *** jjo has joined #maemo | 20:36 | |
| *** Tuco1 has joined #maemo | 20:36 | |
| *** Gary has joined #maemo | 20:36 | |
| *** troyh has joined #maemo | 20:36 | |
| *** drjnut has joined #maemo | 20:36 | |
| *** deejoe has joined #maemo | 20:36 | |
| *** dev has joined #maemo | 20:36 | |
| *** robink has joined #maemo | 20:36 | |
| *** Robot101 has joined #maemo | 20:36 | |
| *** pyhimys has joined #maemo | 20:36 | |
| *** Hirvinen has joined #maemo | 20:36 | |
| *** RP has joined #maemo | 20:36 | |
| *** kulve has joined #maemo | 20:36 | |
| *** jaska has joined #maemo | 20:36 | |
| *** Mikho has joined #maemo | 20:36 | |
| *** w00t has joined #maemo | 20:36 | |
| *** bearclaw_ has joined #maemo | 20:36 | |
| *** trenka has joined #maemo | 20:36 | |
| *** anima has joined #maemo | 20:36 | |
| *** lfelipe has joined #maemo | 20:36 | |
| *** cyndis has joined #maemo | 20:36 | |
| *** infobot has joined #maemo | 20:36 | |
| *** ddenis has joined #maemo | 20:36 | |
| *** kabtoffe has joined #maemo | 20:36 | |
| *** EgS has joined #maemo | 20:36 | |
| *** lir1 has joined #maemo | 20:36 | |
| *** k-s has joined #maemo | 20:36 | |
| *** ShadowJK_ has joined #maemo | 20:36 | |
| *** timeless has joined #maemo | 20:36 | |
| *** Pavlov has joined #maemo | 20:36 | |
| *** mortti_ has joined #maemo | 20:36 | |
| *** Jaffa has joined #maemo | 20:36 | |
| *** Norrit_ has joined #maemo | 20:36 | |
| *** LiraNuna has joined #maemo | 20:36 | |
| *** aquatix has joined #maemo | 20:36 | |
| *** suihkulokki has joined #maemo | 20:36 | |
| *** wanders has joined #maemo | 20:36 | |
| *** VRe has joined #maemo | 20:36 | |
| *** fysa has joined #maemo | 20:36 | |
| *** GeneralAntilles has joined #maemo | 20:36 | |
| *** nikosapi has joined #maemo | 20:36 | |
| *** befr0d has joined #maemo | 20:36 | |
| *** mavhc has joined #maemo | 20:36 | |
| *** dragorn has joined #maemo | 20:36 | |
| *** tuukkah has joined #maemo | 20:36 | |
| *** _closure has joined #maemo | 20:36 | |
| *** IRSeekBot has joined #maemo | 20:36 | |
| *** jkyro has joined #maemo | 20:36 | |
| *** rmrfchik has joined #maemo | 20:36 | |
| *** JunnuX has joined #maemo | 20:36 | |
| *** hap has joined #maemo | 20:36 | |
| *** riot has joined #maemo | 20:36 | |
| *** dob has joined #maemo | 20:36 | |
| *** mat has joined #maemo | 20:36 | |
| *** kad has joined #maemo | 20:36 | |
| *** xorAxAx has joined #maemo | 20:36 | |
| *** mikkov_ has joined #maemo | 20:36 | |
| *** tank-man has joined #maemo | 20:36 | |
| *** kaatis has joined #maemo | 20:36 | |
| *** jumpula has joined #maemo | 20:36 | |
| *** wiza has joined #maemo | 20:36 | |
| *** MikaT has joined #maemo | 20:36 | |
| *** cy3o3 has joined #maemo | 20:36 | |
| *** k`sOSe has joined #maemo | 20:36 | |
| *** wnd has joined #maemo | 20:36 | |
| *** solca has joined #maemo | 20:36 | |
| *** MiskaX has joined #maemo | 20:36 | |
| *** X-Fade has joined #maemo | 20:36 | |
| *** summatusmentis has joined #maemo | 20:36 | |
| *** kaltsi has joined #maemo | 20:36 | |
| *** ds3 has joined #maemo | 20:36 | |
| *** TTilus has joined #maemo | 20:36 | |
| *** Firehand has joined #maemo | 20:36 | |
| *** rtp has joined #maemo | 20:36 | |
| *** onion_ has joined #maemo | 20:36 | |
| *** ryoohki has joined #maemo | 20:36 | |
| *** jott has joined #maemo | 20:36 | |
| *** solarion has joined #maemo | 20:36 | |
| *** Jiten has joined #maemo | 20:36 | |
| *** nomis has joined #maemo | 20:36 | |
| *** flatface_ has joined #maemo | 20:36 | |
| *** towo has joined #maemo | 20:36 | |
| *** herwood has joined #maemo | 20:36 | |
| *** Summeli has joined #maemo | 20:36 | |
| *** Neithan has joined #maemo | 20:36 | |
| *** karbas has joined #maemo | 20:36 | |
| *** taplax has joined #maemo | 20:36 | |
| *** jpnurmi has joined #maemo | 20:36 | |
| *** [pablo] has joined #maemo | 20:36 | |
| *** sneakret has joined #maemo | 20:36 | |
| *** teprrr has joined #maemo | 20:36 | |
| *** Proteous has joined #maemo | 20:36 | |
| *** akiniemi has joined #maemo | 20:36 | |
| *** tabletee1 has joined #maemo | 20:36 | |
| *** script has joined #maemo | 20:36 | |
| dick-richardson | ok...it's actually only xkcd that I'd like it for regularly anyway | 20:40 |
| *** _berto_ has quit IRC | 20:40 | |
| dick-richardson | f-f-fail whale! | 20:40 |
| *** eichi has joined #maemo | 20:40 | |
| AStorm | GAN800, ok, where's the scratchbox installation guide? | 20:40 |
| *** yerga has joined #maemo | 20:40 | |
| *** dick-richardson has left #maemo | 20:41 | |
| AStorm | hmm | 20:41 |
| *** qwerty12_N800 has joined #maemo | 20:41 | |
| GAN8001 | http://maemo.org/development/ | 20:41 |
| AStorm | no help in sight I guess :( | 20:41 |
| *** Pyrhos has joined #maemo | 20:41 | |
| AStorm | :) | 20:41 |
| AStorm | ehh, it's huge | 20:41 |
| *** denny has quit IRC | 20:41 | |
| AStorm | scratchbox itself is 46 MB | 20:41 |
| AStorm | so, who will build me that xinetd quicker? | 20:41 |
| AStorm | the dl of it will take about 2h | 20:41 |
| *** simboss has quit IRC | 20:42 | |
| *** ignacius has quit IRC | 20:43 | |
| *** Zic has quit IRC | 20:43 | |
| Stskeeps | GAN8001: with exception of being drunk and such, looks good regarding legal guys feedback \o/ | 20:48 |
| * Stskeeps returns to being social | 20:48 | |
| *** k-s is now known as k-s[AWAY] | 20:48 | |
| AStorm | Stskeeps, build me xinetd, please oh please | 20:49 |
| Stskeeps | AStorm: for mer? i think it's just apt-get install xinetd.. | 20:49 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 20:49 |
| Stskeeps | and you dont want me near any code right now | 20:50 |
| Stskeeps | bbl | 20:50 |
| AStorm | for diablo | 20:50 |
| AStorm | or at least a binary tar.gz | 20:50 |
| AStorm | :/ | 20:50 |
| *** Vulcanis has joined #maemo | 20:51 | |
| *** krau has quit IRC | 20:52 | |
| GAN8001 | Stskeeps, did they contact you directly? | 20:52 |
| *** croppa has quit IRC | 20:53 | |
| *** croppa has joined #maemo | 20:53 | |
| *** danilocesar has quit IRC | 20:54 | |
| *** mgedmin has quit IRC | 20:58 | |
| *** b-man has quit IRC | 20:59 | |
| *** hellwolf has quit IRC | 20:59 | |
| *** eichi_ has joined #maemo | 21:01 | |
| *** eichi has quit IRC | 21:01 | |
| *** danilocesar has joined #maemo | 21:04 | |
| *** AstralSt has joined #maemo | 21:08 | |
| *** murrayc has quit IRC | 21:09 | |
| *** AStorm has quit IRC | 21:09 | |
| *** AstralSt is now known as AStorm | 21:09 | |
| *** AStorm has joined #maemo | 21:11 | |
| *** murrayc has joined #maemo | 21:18 | |
| *** guardian has quit IRC | 21:23 | |
| *** dneary has quit IRC | 21:26 | |
| *** Sargun has joined #maemo | 21:27 | |
| *** hellwolf has joined #maemo | 21:32 | |
| *** k-s[AWAY] is now known as k-s | 21:38 | |
| *** punkass has joined #maemo | 21:40 | |
| *** harryl has quit IRC | 21:41 | |
| *** Schnouki has quit IRC | 21:41 | |
| *** lele has quit IRC | 21:52 | |
| *** krau has joined #maemo | 21:53 | |
| *** punk-ass has quit IRC | 21:56 | |
| *** christefano has joined #maemo | 21:59 | |
| *** cyrus__ has quit IRC | 21:59 | |
| *** eichi_ has quit IRC | 22:00 | |
| Stskeeps | GAN8001: should be on m-c | 22:13 |
| GAN8001 | Ah, OK | 22:13 |
| GAN8001 | I wasn't sure if it was that or something additional. | 22:13 |
| *** b-man has joined #maemo | 22:15 | |
| *** madhav has quit IRC | 22:17 | |
| RST38h | moooo. | 22:21 |
| b-man | ??????????? | 22:22 |
| qwerty12_N800 | moo RST38h | 22:22 |
| b-man | i don't get it. | 22:22 |
| b-man | :/ | 22:22 |
| b-man | sooo, how is the weather out there qwerty12? | 22:26 |
| b-man | it's verry cold and there is ice everywhere here.... | 22:27 |
| qwerty12_N800 | hehe, cold as ever :D. i think this is supposed to be our coldest winter for a long time :D | 22:27 |
| *** bilboed has quit IRC | 22:27 | |
| b-man | same here :D | 22:27 |
| b-man | we were suppose to get a snowstorm but it all turned to ice... | 22:28 |
| b-man | but school was canceld! :D | 22:29 |
| qwerty12_N800 | hehe :D, but I got 2 weeks off today :P | 22:29 |
| b-man | same here. :) | 22:29 |
| qwerty12_N800 | hehe :) | 22:29 |
| RST38h | qwerty | 22:30 |
| RST38h | WINE thread on iTT is hilarious | 22:30 |
| b-man | @ qwerty12; what are you doing/getting for christmas? | 22:31 |
| GAN8001 | WINE + ARM is always hilarious. | 22:31 |
| qwerty12_N800 | b-man, nothing much :/ | 22:31 |
| b-man | i'm getting a Dell studio 15. :D | 22:31 |
| qwerty12_N800 | heh nice :D | 22:32 |
| *** AStorm has quit IRC | 22:32 | |
| b-man | I' thinking of whiping out windows and installing Ubuntu on it. | 22:33 |
| *** woglinde has joined #maemo | 22:33 | |
| b-man | or dual booting.. | 22:33 |
| Pavlov | hmm | 22:40 |
| Pavlov | so lets say your n810 power cable is 2500 miles away | 22:40 |
| Pavlov | what is the fastest way to get something to charge it with? | 22:40 |
| GAN8001 | Local cellular store? | 22:41 |
| Pavlov | (it doesn't charge over usb does it?) | 22:41 |
| GAN8001 | No | 22:41 |
| `0660 | that handwriting calculator is so cool | 22:41 |
| GAN8001 | Most of the Nokia phones shipped use that plug. | 22:41 |
| Pavlov | ok | 22:41 |
| *** acydlord has joined #maemo | 22:41 | |
| GAN8001 | Radio Shack will have it for sure if you're in the States. | 22:42 |
| Pavlov | yeah? | 22:43 |
| Pavlov | any idea what voltage/etc i need? | 22:44 |
| GAN8001 | 5.7v | 22:44 |
| pupnik | i've found car adapters that do not actually charge the device, just power it | 22:44 |
| pupnik | claimed to be n800 compat | 22:44 |
| pupnik | so ymmv | 22:45 |
| GAN8001 | 890mA | 22:45 |
| GAN8001 | The car adaptors are usually closer to 400mA | 22:45 |
| GAN8001 | So it'll only charge if it's using very little power | 22:45 |
| Pavlov | just powering it would be fine | 22:45 |
| Pavlov | but charging would be nice | 22:45 |
| Pavlov | ok, so 5.7v 890mA | 22:45 |
| * Pavlov heads to radio shack | 22:45 | |
| ||cw | if you power it off it would charge it | 22:45 |
| GAN8001 | Pavlov, http://www.radioshack.com/product/index.jsp?productId=2760955 | 22:46 |
| GAN8001 | Plus the adaptor | 22:46 |
| Pavlov | k | 22:46 |
| *** krau has quit IRC | 22:47 | |
| *** Grackle has quit IRC | 22:53 | |
| *** krau has joined #maemo | 22:55 | |
| *** caio1982 has quit IRC | 22:58 | |
| *** _acyd_ has quit IRC | 22:58 | |
| *** mlpug has quit IRC | 22:59 | |
| *** _acyd_ has joined #maemo | 23:01 | |
| *** b-man has quit IRC | 23:05 | |
| *** b-man has joined #maemo | 23:05 | |
| *** AStorm has joined #maemo | 23:06 | |
| *** murrayc has quit IRC | 23:08 | |
| *** MoRpHeUz has quit IRC | 23:12 | |
| *** Grackle has joined #maemo | 23:15 | |
| *** acydlord has quit IRC | 23:18 | |
| Pavlov | woo i have the power | 23:22 |
| Pavlov | found the igo thing | 23:22 |
| *** setanta has quit IRC | 23:27 | |
| GAN8001 | Pavlov, congrats. :P | 23:27 |
| *** yigal has joined #maemo | 23:28 | |
| RST38h | Gentlemen, does anyone know how I can disable blinki console cursor when I am using it as a frame buffer (fb0)? | 23:32 |
| RST38h | blinking | 23:32 |
| RST38h | The OS is OpenEmbedded | 23:34 |
| AStorm | google knows | 23:35 |
| AStorm | and terminfo/curses/termcap too | 23:35 |
| AStorm | you have to toggle a terminal flag | 23:35 |
| *** benh has joined #maemo | 23:36 | |
| RST38h | Can't find it | 23:36 |
| RST38h | Proly don't know the right magic words | 23:36 |
| *** r2d2rogers has joined #maemo | 23:37 | |
| AStorm | hint: X/Open specification | 23:38 |
| AStorm | http://www.usenet-forums.com/linux-general/96908-possible-hide-cursor-console-mode.html | 23:39 |
| AStorm | first hit | 23:39 |
| RST38h | aha | 23:39 |
| AStorm | you are *really* lazy | 23:39 |
| RST38h | I am. | 23:39 |
| AStorm | and my hint about terminfo was good too | 23:39 |
| RST38h | way too many things on my hands :( | 23:39 |
| *** StsN800 has joined #maemo | 23:40 | |
| RST38h | naaah, tput did not do a thing | 23:42 |
| *** Pio has quit IRC | 23:44 | |
| *** christefano has quit IRC | 23:44 | |
| AStorm | it should | 23:46 |
| AStorm | hmm | 23:46 |
| AStorm | it works in my console (linux) | 23:46 |
| *** melmoth has joined #maemo | 23:46 | |
| AStorm | unless your terminfo database is broken | 23:46 |
| AStorm | then, complain to the distro author | 23:46 |
| AStorm | :P | 23:46 |
| *** luck^ has quit IRC | 23:47 | |
| *** Pio has joined #maemo | 23:50 | |
| *** renato has quit IRC | 23:51 | |
| RST38h | AStorm: Not possible. | 23:51 |
| AStorm | maybe terminal doesn't support it, but that's very unlikely | 23:52 |
| woglinde | hm | 23:55 |
| woglinde | busbox problem? | 23:55 |
| *** lmoura has quit IRC | 23:56 | |
| woglinde | intressting in both mapages | 23:57 |
| woglinde | civis and cnorm is not described | 23:57 |
| AStorm | because it's just setting a feature | 23:58 |
| AStorm | it is mentioned in man terminfo here | 23:58 |
| AStorm | :) | 23:58 |
| AStorm | full name is cursor_invisible | 23:58 |
| AStorm | tcap codes are civis=vi and cnorm=ve | 23:59 |
| *** etrunko has quit IRC | 23:59 | |
| RST38h | AStorm: It is OpenEmbedded. God knows how their terminal is implemented. | 23:59 |
Generated by irclog2html.py 2.15.1 by Marius Gedminas - find it at mg.pov.lt!
