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| pupnik | http://www.briggsmedia.com/mpeg/movies/stream/kaos/kaos-030708.mp3 today's Scott Horton show | 00:07 |
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| koshi | Has anyone found a good travel type(ie small) keyboard to use with n8x0? | 00:13 |
| koshi | By small I mean a full size one, but one you can collapse or roll up? But one that is actually worth it? | 00:14 |
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| KotCzarny | koshi: stowaways are foldable | 00:15 |
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| koshi | Oh, and blue tooth actually connects easily with it? | 00:16 |
| KotCzarny | yes i guess | 00:16 |
| KotCzarny | at least people from this channel told me that | 00:16 |
| KotCzarny | i'm planning getting bt kb too | 00:16 |
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| koshi | Ahh I see, my experience with bluetooth is that it just does't work. My phone so famanaged to connect to only two devices ever, and one of them was n8x0 <_< | 00:17 |
| KotCzarny | :) | 00:17 |
| KotCzarny | knowledge of low level bt commands can help | 00:18 |
| koshi | Hmmh, a lot of function keys on that one... Wonder if I can find it in local shops. Tried google searching before for something useful, but they are either not full size or just rubbish... | 00:20 |
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| KotCzarny | IT WORKS!!! | 00:20 |
| KotCzarny | esddsp :> | 00:20 |
| KotCzarny | let's see framerate then.. | 00:21 |
| pupnik | what | 00:22 |
| KotCzarny | ladies and gentelmen.. i see working uae emu | 00:22 |
| pupnik | nice :) | 00:22 |
| KotCzarny | with full screen, fast frame rate and sound | 00:22 |
| KotCzarny | :) | 00:22 |
| * pupnik bows to KotCzarny | 00:22 | |
| KotCzarny | 'gentlemen' | 00:22 |
| KotCzarny | also it resolves oss apps problem | 00:22 |
| KotCzarny | :> | 00:23 |
| pupnik | what what what | 00:23 |
| KotCzarny | esddsp | 00:23 |
| pupnik | fuck you | 00:23 |
| pupnik | i tried getting esddsp working for many days | 00:23 |
| pupnik | you say it works? | 00:23 |
| KotCzarny | yes | 00:23 |
| KotCzarny | at first try | 00:23 |
| pupnik | hmm. well ... good | 00:23 |
| KotCzarny | starting sound thread.. | 00:23 |
| KotCzarny | gp2x_set_sound: 44100/16bit/mono, 32 buffers of 4096 bytes | 00:23 |
| KotCzarny | sound_thread started | 00:23 |
| KotCzarny | ;) | 00:23 |
| KotCzarny | esddsp --mmap ./uae4all | 00:24 |
| pupnik | ah? | 00:24 |
| KotCzarny | though i don't know if --mmap is needed | 00:24 |
| KotCzarny | let's try without | 00:24 |
| KotCzarny | yup | 00:25 |
| KotCzarny | works without too | 00:25 |
| KotCzarny | :) | 00:25 |
| pupnik | that's great news, but i hate you | 00:27 |
| KotCzarny | :> | 00:27 |
| KotCzarny | i didn't do anything special | 00:27 |
| KotCzarny | just compiled it and copied to n800 | 00:27 |
| KotCzarny | now, let's back to hacking uae | 00:28 |
| KotCzarny | *get | 00:28 |
| pupnik | i think you're bullshitting | 00:28 |
| KotCzarny | wanna binaries? | 00:29 |
| pupnik | sure. show me | 00:29 |
| KotCzarny | moment | 00:29 |
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| KotCzarny | mrrau.dyndns.org:232800/n800/uae.tar.gz | 00:34 |
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| pupnik | thanks | 00:34 |
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| pupnik | still connecting | 00:35 |
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| KotCzarny | erm | 00:35 |
| KotCzarny | wrong port | 00:35 |
| KotCzarny | 23280 | 00:35 |
| KotCzarny | :) | 00:35 |
| pupnik | great stuff - the gp2x world is a goldmine for ARM | 00:36 |
| KotCzarny | :) | 00:36 |
| pupnik | and that was fast work | 00:36 |
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| KotCzarny | i could use a ps1 emu | 00:36 |
| KotCzarny | :> | 00:36 |
| pupnik | i have a 1/2 way ported nes emu | 00:36 |
| pupnik | from gp2x | 00:36 |
| KotCzarny | but it will be harder on cpu than ami | 00:36 |
| KotCzarny | nah, i have amiga/ps1 only sentiments | 00:37 |
| pupnik | ok | 00:37 |
| KotCzarny | btw. tapping screen is left mb | 00:37 |
| KotCzarny | i don't know what's joystick mapped to | 00:37 |
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| KotCzarny | but should get you at least to title screens etc. | 00:38 |
| pupnik | i will get back to you about gp2x projects then | 00:39 |
| KotCzarny | :> | 00:39 |
| pupnik | need to look at this first | 00:39 |
| KotCzarny | i'm hacking it now | 00:39 |
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| KotCzarny | keymappings | 00:39 |
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| KotCzarny | btw. i have my kernel locked at 400/133 | 00:40 |
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| pupnik | well we can talk later - i ahve to sleep now | 00:43 |
| KotCzarny | ok | 00:43 |
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| spirytusick | 'lo all :) | 00:43 |
| KotCzarny | spirytusik: :) | 00:43 |
| KotCzarny | wanna uae + sound + working mouse? | 00:44 |
| spirytusick | KotCzarny: hey :) | 00:44 |
| KotCzarny | ;) | 00:44 |
| spirytusick | KotCzarny: Yes! | 00:44 |
| spirytusick | KotCzarny: Please :) | 00:44 |
| KotCzarny | mrrau.dyndns.org:23280/n800/uae.tar.gz | 00:44 |
| KotCzarny | needs keys mapped properly for nokia | 00:44 |
| KotCzarny | but as a teaser you can try it now :) | 00:44 |
| spirytusick | wget dump in progress :) | 00:45 |
| spirytusick | ql! | 00:45 |
| spirytusick | I've got a copy or arte somwhere on the tablet :) | 00:45 |
| KotCzarny | i've tested it with superfrog and workbench | 00:45 |
| spirytusick | just following readme :) | 00:47 |
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| KotCzarny | spirytusik: feedback is welcome :) | 00:52 |
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| spirytusick | KotCzarny: Speed is superb!! | 00:59 |
| KotCzarny | :) | 00:59 |
| KotCzarny | yeah | 00:59 |
| spirytusick | KotCzarny: but the sound does not work for me :((( | 00:59 |
| KotCzarny | no? | 00:59 |
| KotCzarny | what model do you have? | 00:59 |
| spirytusick | n800 | 01:00 |
| spirytusick | esd is running | 01:00 |
| KotCzarny | same here | 01:00 |
| spirytusick | os2008 | 01:00 |
| spirytusick | stock libraries | 01:00 |
| KotCzarny | what are the startup messages? | 01:00 |
| KotCzarny | pastebin.com | 01:00 |
| KotCzarny | :) | 01:00 |
| spirytusick | what is the floor treeshold here ? | 01:00 |
| KotCzarny | use pastebin.com | 01:00 |
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| spirytusick | done | 01:01 |
| KotCzarny | but paste me the link | 01:01 |
| KotCzarny | it's not my site :) | 01:01 |
| spirytusick | http://pastebin.com/m3bc69f24 | 01:01 |
| KotCzarny | hmm | 01:02 |
| spirytusick | never used it before... very usefull gizmo | 01:02 |
| KotCzarny | maybe your sound is low? | 01:02 |
| KotCzarny | or muted? | 01:02 |
| KotCzarny | :) | 01:02 |
| spirytusick | nope :) I did | 01:02 |
| KotCzarny | weird | 01:02 |
| spirytusick | I did all " | 01:02 |
| KotCzarny | it looks like it worked | 01:02 |
| spirytusick | I did all "I am an idiot checks" | 01:02 |
| KotCzarny | mplayer -ao esd -ac mad some.mp3 ? | 01:02 |
| KotCzarny | just to be sure | 01:02 |
| KotCzarny | :) | 01:02 |
| spirytusick | weird | 01:04 |
| KotCzarny | mm? | 01:04 |
| spirytusick | the sound was not muted and the volume slider was at max but it was extremely silent | 01:04 |
| KotCzarny | yes | 01:04 |
| spirytusick | when I acceses sound settings it went back to normal | 01:04 |
| KotCzarny | there are two controls | 01:04 |
| KotCzarny | pcm and main | 01:04 |
| KotCzarny | i guess | 01:04 |
| KotCzarny | but sound works now? | 01:04 |
| KotCzarny | :) | 01:04 |
| spirytusick | but no advanced mixer to use though | 01:04 |
| spirytusick | will test | 01:04 |
| spirytusick | wait a sec, loading unreal | 01:04 |
| KotCzarny | o.O | 01:05 |
| KotCzarny | on ami? | 01:05 |
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| spirytusick | yep | 01:08 |
| spirytusick | not the demo :) game :) | 01:08 |
| KotCzarny | :) | 01:08 |
| spirytusick | ok: sound works but is muted on the edge of being silence, I need to hold the tablet next to my ears to be able to hear a whisper | 01:09 |
| KotCzarny | hmm | 01:09 |
| KotCzarny | weird | 01:09 |
| KotCzarny | may be internal mixer in uae4all | 01:09 |
| spirytusick | extremely | 01:09 |
| KotCzarny | try another game? | 01:09 |
| KotCzarny | superfrog worked fine for me | 01:09 |
| KotCzarny | ah, yes | 01:12 |
| KotCzarny | it's quiet | 01:12 |
| KotCzarny | let's hack. | 01:12 |
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| spirytusick | haven't got superfrog handy | 01:13 |
| spirytusick | wingsofdeath crashed | 01:13 |
| KotCzarny | that's a bad news | 01:13 |
| spirytusick | i will try and compile cmix for the tablet, perhaps I will be able to raise the volume from console | 01:13 |
| KotCzarny | i think i have seen vol=50 in the sources | 01:14 |
| spirytusick | KotCzarny: wingsofdeath should work in the original version as I only had an aga fix release handy | 01:14 |
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| spirytusick | KotCzarny: Regardles, congratulations!! speedy amiga emulation and a port from gp2x -- opens up a window for porting more emus :) | 01:18 |
| KotCzarny | :) | 01:18 |
| KotCzarny | i haven't ported it | 01:18 |
| KotCzarny | it compiled out of the box | 01:18 |
| KotCzarny | :) | 01:18 |
| spirytusick | you're joking ? :) | 01:18 |
| KotCzarny | nope | 01:18 |
| KotCzarny | :) | 01:18 |
| KotCzarny | i can give you sources if you want | 01:19 |
| KotCzarny | and see for yourself | 01:19 |
| * spirytusick sprints into a wall :) | 01:19 | |
| spirytusick | KotCzarny: may i ? | 01:19 |
| KotCzarny | sure | 01:19 |
| KotCzarny | :) | 01:19 |
| spirytusick | is it autotools based ? | 01:19 |
| KotCzarny | nope | 01:20 |
| KotCzarny | just a makefile | 01:20 |
| spirytusick | simple :) | 01:20 |
| KotCzarny | mrrau.dyndns.org:23280/n800/uae/ | 01:20 |
| KotCzarny | and compilation flags are for n770 | 01:21 |
| KotCzarny | i guess it can be compiled for n8x0 and be a little faster too | 01:21 |
| KotCzarny | :) | 01:21 |
| spirytusick | ok. will do some digiin :) | 01:22 |
| KotCzarny | if you want pixel doubling get my gp2x.cpp too | 01:23 |
| spirytusick | cyclone core compiled out of the box :) superb :) | 01:23 |
| spirytusick | only see the sources and your uae binaries + makefile | 01:23 |
| KotCzarny | refresh | 01:24 |
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| spirytusick | ql, thank you! | 01:27 |
| KotCzarny | :) | 01:27 |
| KotCzarny | don't thank me | 01:27 |
| KotCzarny | i'm not the author :) | 01:27 |
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| KotCzarny | btw. soundvolume is in gp2x.cpp too | 01:28 |
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| KotCzarny | battery empty | 01:30 |
| KotCzarny | oops | 01:30 |
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| spirytusick | ql, will check this out when my wife goes to sleep :) | 01:36 |
| KotCzarny | :) | 01:37 |
| spirytusick | there are some weird problems with some screenmodes, | 01:39 |
| KotCzarny | hmm? | 01:39 |
| KotCzarny | game? | 01:39 |
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| spirytusick | walker, unreal | 01:40 |
| spirytusick | this two for sure | 01:40 |
| spirytusick | i took a screenshot | 01:41 |
| spirytusick | wait a sec will upload | 01:41 |
| spirytusick | it might be HAM | 01:42 |
| spirytusick | or EHB | 01:42 |
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| Deformative | Can I get file transfer setup with my nokia to my phone? | 01:42 |
| Deformative | Also, could I get my nokia to play music on my bluetooth headset? | 01:42 |
| spirytusick | Deformative: on os2008 it works over bluetooth, providing the phone and tablet are authorised to access each other | 01:43 |
| spirytusick | on os2008 bt headset works but the quality of the sound is very poor | 01:43 |
| KotCzarny | spirytusik: i think uae fiddles with the mixer | 01:43 |
| KotCzarny | let's hack | 01:43 |
| KotCzarny | :) | 01:43 |
| KotCzarny | yup. in init | 01:44 |
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| spirytusick | KotCzarny: http://spirytusick.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/walker.png | 01:44 |
| KotCzarny | yup | 01:45 |
| KotCzarny | looks like ehb | 01:45 |
| spirytusick | but that's probably gp2x uae ver specific | 01:45 |
| KotCzarny | yess. | 01:45 |
| KotCzarny | now that's loud | 01:45 |
| KotCzarny | ;) | 01:45 |
| Deformative | spirytusick: I am on os2006 | 01:46 |
| KotCzarny | spirytusik: wanna updated binary/source? | 01:47 |
| KotCzarny | :) | 01:47 |
| spirytusick | ok, refresh :) | 01:47 |
| KotCzarny | ok | 01:48 |
| KotCzarny | now | 01:48 |
| KotCzarny | :) | 01:48 |
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| Deformative | Hmm, seems to suck. | 01:51 |
| spirytusick | testing | 01:51 |
| Deformative | I connected and disabled dun, yet it says it is enabled. | 01:52 |
| spirytusick | Deformative: I do not know anything about os2006 | 01:52 |
| Deformative | And there is not really a way to get into file transfer fromt he phone. | 01:52 |
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| Deformative | Oh file transfer works from the file browser. | 01:53 |
| Deformative | But it does not work from the phone to teh nokia. | 01:53 |
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| KotCzarny | spirytusik: nie jestem zarejestrowany | 01:58 |
| KotCzarny | jak cos to #kotc | 01:58 |
| KotCzarny | :) | 01:58 |
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| KotCzarny | wrzucilem jak cos | 01:59 |
| KotCzarny | uae4all.gz | 01:59 |
| spirytusick | KotCzarny: spox :) dzieki :) a przy okazji dzwiek dziala juz :) glosno :) | 01:59 |
| KotCzarny | nie tar | 02:00 |
| KotCzarny | ;) | 02:00 |
| KotCzarny | seems faster | 02:01 |
| KotCzarny | :> | 02:01 |
| KotCzarny | or maybe not that much | 02:01 |
| KotCzarny | :) | 02:01 |
| KotCzarny | i have to make dpad working as a joy | 02:02 |
| KotCzarny | and map other keys | 02:02 |
| spirytusick | KotCzarny: feels faster, not much but noticeable :) | 02:02 |
| KotCzarny | :) | 02:02 |
| KotCzarny | but only fps test will tell | 02:02 |
| * ccooke wonders... | 02:02 | |
| KotCzarny | would be great to use pcmtask directly.. | 02:03 |
| ccooke | Is there any way to get os2008 to open an internet radio stream at a particular time... | 02:03 |
| spirytusick | KotCzarny: I suppose some games should be playable, lemmings for sure, as soon as the mouse is calibrated :) | 02:03 |
| KotCzarny | esd incurs some overhead | 02:03 |
| ccooke | basically, an internet radio alarm clock :-) | 02:03 |
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| spirytusick | KotCzarny: yep + the hildon part which gp2x does not have to worry about too much | 02:04 |
| KotCzarny | i think it already used sdl_hw | 02:04 |
| KotCzarny | to render faster | 02:04 |
| KotCzarny | do you know if n800 have mmu? | 02:04 |
| spirytusick | KotCzarny: I suppose it has to have for the effictive swap management ? | 02:05 |
| spirytusick | KotCzarny: I know it can be done in software but it's not very effective | 02:05 |
| KotCzarny | my nokia seems warm | 02:05 |
| KotCzarny | ;) | 02:05 |
| Jaffa | Interesting. According to the iPhone SDK HIG doc at http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/03/07/iphone-sdk-some-of-the-details-arent-great/ every iPhone app has a "launcher screen" configured which is displayed by the OS to increase the perceived speed of loading | 02:05 |
| sp3000 | perception is everything ;) | 02:07 |
| KotCzarny | yeah.. look ma'.. shiniess.. | 02:07 |
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| spirytusick | ok guys!! time to hit the showers.. see you tommorow | 02:13 |
| KotCzarny | go go | 02:13 |
| KotCzarny | :) | 02:13 |
| spirytusick | KotCzarny: 3m sie :) milego weekendu :) | 02:14 |
| KotCzarny | spox | 02:14 |
| KotCzarny | :) | 02:14 |
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| Jaffa | sp3000: I think it's a clever idea; better than just a spinning "Web loading" | 02:14 |
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| sp3000 | you mean "You're waiting" | 02:15 |
| sp3000 | ;) | 02:15 |
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| leandroal | /j #octave | 02:17 |
| leandroal | ops! | 02:17 |
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| KotCzarny | hi texel | 02:33 |
| KotCzarny | :) | 02:33 |
| texel | Heya. | 02:33 |
| * texel is preparing for a quick weekend stent in SFO. | 02:33 | |
| * KotCzarny has fast uae | 02:33 | |
| KotCzarny | :> | 02:33 |
| texel | Woo! =o) | 02:33 |
| texel | That's freaking awesome! =o0 | 02:34 |
| KotCzarny | yup | 02:34 |
| KotCzarny | with sound and mouse too | 02:34 |
| KotCzarny | :) | 02:34 |
| texel | Awesome. =o) | 02:34 |
| KotCzarny | yup | 02:34 |
| KotCzarny | :) | 02:34 |
| texel | Hildonized yet? =O) | 02:34 |
| KotCzarny | what for? | 02:34 |
| KotCzarny | :> | 02:34 |
| KotCzarny | has own gui | 02:34 |
| jott | hm well mouse has the usual problem :P | 02:34 |
| KotCzarny | and is fullscreen | 02:34 |
| KotCzarny | :) | 02:34 |
| texel | Ahh. Well, if it's fullscreen... =o) | 02:34 |
| KotCzarny | and eats through battery like mad | 02:34 |
| KotCzarny | ;) | 02:35 |
| KotCzarny | btw. do you know preferable gcc flags for n800/ | 02:35 |
| texel | I only ask for Hildonization so you don't end up with the "hidden window" effect when you switch to another task. | 02:35 |
| KotCzarny | i made it behave i guess | 02:35 |
| KotCzarny | added x11app variable | 02:35 |
| KotCzarny | or something | 02:35 |
| jott | i wonder if there is an amiga-side solution for the mouse .. :/ | 02:36 |
| KotCzarny | jott: nope, only hacks | 02:36 |
| texel | So it shows up in the task list? | 02:36 |
| KotCzarny | like writing directly to ami ram current mouse pos | 02:36 |
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| KotCzarny | texel: i can't check | 02:36 |
| KotCzarny | because i don't know how to get back to hildon | 02:36 |
| KotCzarny | :> | 02:36 |
| KotCzarny | other than quitting of course | 02:36 |
| * jott wants to play lemmings :/ | 02:37 | |
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| KotCzarny | jott: wanna? | 02:37 |
| jott | runs quite nice :) | 02:37 |
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| jott | but mouse is unusable atm | 02:37 |
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| KotCzarny | jott: it is usable | 02:37 |
| KotCzarny | :) | 02:37 |
| texel | KotCzarny: Hmm... Press the task button? | 02:37 |
| jott | how? :) | 02:37 |
| KotCzarny | texel: no bonus | 02:37 |
| KotCzarny | :) | 02:37 |
| texel | Eh? | 02:37 |
| texel | As in, I fail? =op | 02:37 |
| KotCzarny | i think it overrides hildon | 02:37 |
| texel | Ahh. | 02:37 |
| KotCzarny | total fullscreen | 02:38 |
| KotCzarny | :) | 02:38 |
| texel | Crazy. =o) | 02:38 |
| texel | But awesome. =o) | 02:38 |
| texel | well, frack. | 02:38 |
| texel | Stupid FF3 won't print worth a damn. | 02:38 |
| KotCzarny | :) | 02:38 |
| texel | I keep trying to print my tickets, but unfortunately it keeps dumping out blank paper. O.o | 02:38 |
| jott | KotCzarny: do you have any pointer for fixing the mouse? | 02:39 |
| KotCzarny | texel: convert to ps/pdf ? :) | 02:39 |
| KotCzarny | jott: it's fixed in uae4all version i have found | 02:39 |
| KotCzarny | :) | 02:39 |
| texel | KotCzarny: tried that -- FF's print engine is completely busted. | 02:39 |
| texel | Even PS/PDF output is screwed. | 02:39 |
| KotCzarny | texel: huh, wget + any2ps ? | 02:40 |
| jott | KotCzarny: not really :P | 02:40 |
| KotCzarny | jott: have you tried it? | 02:40 |
| jott | running it yeah.. | 02:40 |
| texel | Eh. I just saved the page as an HTML collection and reopened in Safari. | 02:40 |
| KotCzarny | hmm | 02:40 |
| KotCzarny | let me get my lemmings | 02:40 |
| jott | i had to replace kick.rom for lemmings to start | 02:40 |
| texel | "Let's go!" | 02:40 |
| jott | is there a hack in kick.rom?! | 02:40 |
| KotCzarny | erm | 02:40 |
| KotCzarny | jott | 02:40 |
| KotCzarny | replace kick.rom with a rom | 02:40 |
| KotCzarny | load adf as usual in gui | 02:40 |
| KotCzarny | :) | 02:40 |
| jott | yeah.. lemmings started fine and is super smooth | 02:41 |
| texel | Hehe | 02:41 |
| jott | but the mouse is still relative.. | 02:41 |
| texel | Yeah, kick.rom is always the tricky part. | 02:41 |
| jott | hence it's unusable.. | 02:41 |
| KotCzarny | jott: fixable i guess | 02:41 |
| KotCzarny | :) | 02:41 |
| KotCzarny | it's a little off | 02:41 |
| KotCzarny | but works | 02:41 |
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| KotCzarny | :) | 02:41 |
| KotCzarny | it's off because i have turned pixel doubling on | 02:42 |
| KotCzarny | and didn't updated mouse algo yet (i guess) | 02:42 |
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| KotCzarny | huh | 02:43 |
| jott | KotCzarny: does the mouse work for you? (i.e. absolute) | 02:43 |
| KotCzarny | yes i guess | 02:43 |
| KotCzarny | i have tried to move windows in wb | 02:44 |
| KotCzarny | but let me check | 02:44 |
| KotCzarny | (it's off because i have turned pixel doubling on and didn't updated mouse algo yet (i guess)) | 02:44 |
| KotCzarny | expansion ram detected and utilized | 02:45 |
| KotCzarny | lol | 02:45 |
| KotCzarny | texel: teaser: mrrau.dyndns.org:23280/n800/uae/ | 02:46 |
| texel | Hehe | 02:48 |
| texel | Nice. | 02:48 |
| KotCzarny | uae.tar.gz is containing esddsp | 02:49 |
| KotCzarny | oss->esd wrapper | 02:49 |
| KotCzarny | :) | 02:49 |
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| * Jaffa had the same problem with the relative mouse in his quick 'n' dirty ArcEm port | 02:54 | |
| KotCzarny | relative mouse is ease (i guess) | 02:54 |
| jott | dosbox has the same problem | 02:54 |
| KotCzarny | as long as you can get mx/my from emu | 02:55 |
| jott | mh i suppose games might use a custom mouse handler? | 02:57 |
| KotCzarny | uae just writes to some hardwired address in emu ram | 02:57 |
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| Deformative | Bluetooth is pretty damn cool. | 03:05 |
| KotCzarny | works, sometimes | 03:05 |
| Deformative | Easiest way to get images off the phone. | 03:05 |
| KotCzarny | slow as hell | 03:05 |
| KotCzarny | nope, sshfs is easier | 03:05 |
| Deformative | MY PHONE. | 03:05 |
| KotCzarny | :) | 03:05 |
| jott | a phone without sshd is not a real phone :P | 03:05 |
| Deformative | It is a free phone. | 03:06 |
| KotCzarny | there's no such thing as free | 03:06 |
| Deformative | An included phone. | 03:06 |
| Deformative | (And what about the public domain?) | 03:07 |
| elb | I'm not sure how "sshfs" is "easier" than "bluetooth" | 03:07 |
| elb | that's like saying the highway is easier than a motorcycle | 03:08 |
| elb | or, more appropriately, a motorcycle is easier than the highway | 03:08 |
| KotCzarny | have you tried setting up bt? | 03:08 |
| KotCzarny | :> | 03:08 |
| Deformative | All I had to do was "scan for bluetooth devices" | 03:08 |
| Deformative | That was about it. | 03:09 |
| elb | maybe you mean something different from "bluetooth" when you say "bluetooth" | 03:09 |
| elb | perhaps you mean OBEX file transfer, KotCzarny ? | 03:09 |
| KotCzarny | and what he meant then? | 03:09 |
| KotCzarny | :) | 03:09 |
| elb | I don't know | 03:10 |
| KotCzarny | ; | 03:10 |
| KotCzarny | ) | 03:10 |
| elb | but note that OBEX is not nearly as painful on other platforms as it is on Linux | 03:10 |
| elb | which has royally craptastic OBEX support | 03:10 |
| KotCzarny | :) | 03:10 |
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| * Jaffa is constantly impressed with OBEX on ITOS. Trying to script my XP laptop to send stuff over OBEX to my phone or tablet is impossible | 03:12 | |
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| KotCzarny | write_log ("Keyboard buffer overrun. Congratulations.\n"); | 03:53 |
| KotCzarny | lol | 03:53 |
| johnx | ahahaha | 03:53 |
| johnx | that's awesome | 03:53 |
| KotCzarny | kind of | 03:54 |
| KotCzarny | :) | 03:54 |
| KotCzarny | johnx: have you seen uae i have found? | 03:54 |
| KotCzarny | :> | 03:54 |
| lcuk_2 | writeln("press any key to continue\n"); ;) | 03:54 |
| KotCzarny | /* n800 keys: tdrlx 273 274 275 276 13 L^ 27 menu 285 home 286 fs + - 287 288 289 */ | 03:54 |
| KotCzarny | this is sdl | 03:54 |
| KotCzarny | i mean key codes sdl sees | 03:55 |
| johnx | mm | 03:55 |
| KotCzarny | may be usefull | 03:55 |
| KotCzarny | i wonder if hw keys are a tiny kb or just hardwired bangs | 03:56 |
| johnx | I think they are a keyboard...or at least they are as far as Linux cares | 03:57 |
| johnx | they work in the console | 03:57 |
| KotCzarny | hum | 03:57 |
| KotCzarny | so there's a possibility for external ps2 port? | 03:58 |
| KotCzarny | ;) | 03:58 |
| johnx | yeah, over usb :P | 03:58 |
| KotCzarny | that would be usb port :P | 03:58 |
| johnx | with a usb->ps2 converter... | 03:59 |
| KotCzarny | and a usb->usb converter | 03:59 |
| KotCzarny | *grin* | 03:59 |
| johnx | heh...my setup is actually *more* complicated :/ | 03:59 |
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| dospod | suup | 04:08 |
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| dospod | anybody | 04:12 |
| dospod | know about the youtube plugin | 04:12 |
| dospod | ??? | 04:13 |
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| lcuk_2 | plugin? | 04:21 |
| KotCzarny | flash | 04:21 |
| KotCzarny | maybe | 04:21 |
| lcuk_2 | as in browser addin or the program | 04:21 |
| KotCzarny | :) | 04:21 |
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| dospod | its for canola | 04:21 |
| lcuk_2 | ahhh dont use it - dont liek the flicker | 04:21 |
| dospod | they have a vid of it somewhere but no rrlease yet | 04:22 |
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| johnx | dospod, I thought I heard that it would be soon | 04:22 |
| dospod | canola beta 5 sux on scanning music | 04:22 |
| dospod | it was supposed to be last friday or today i thought | 04:23 |
| johnx | "sux" on scanning music? it works fine here... | 04:25 |
| jott | does it support collections (soundtracks etc.) now? | 04:26 |
| dospod | it has picked up 7 out of 200 songs | 04:27 |
| KotCzarny | medialibrary sucks. | 04:27 |
| KotCzarny | :) | 04:27 |
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| dospod | and its a common bug in fresh beta 5 installations | 04:28 |
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| KotCzarny | whooo-hoooo! | 05:40 |
| KotCzarny | dpad works as joy :) | 05:40 |
| dospod | whoooo | 05:41 |
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| cLin | sanyone use car mounts for their nokia n8x0? | 05:51 |
| cLin | besides proclipusa, are there any other recommended companies? | 05:51 |
| k-s | dospod: possible one of our changes to lms broke for one of your media | 05:53 |
| dospod | i only get my daft punk :/ | 05:53 |
| k-s | dospod: for speed reasons we default to a big commit_interval, but if it break there, it will loose that amount of tracks (in the worst case) | 05:53 |
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| k-s | dospod: it would be great if you could identify which specific music trigger the problem | 05:54 |
| k-s | dospod: and mail us it | 05:54 |
| k-s | dospod: however I changed it a lot today and you should get some speedups even more, and some fixes as well | 05:54 |
| k-s | dospod: do you know scratchbox? | 05:55 |
| dospod | i know what it is | 05:55 |
| k-s | dospod: but do you have the skills to use it? | 05:55 |
| dospod | but i dont run linux and i dont have the sdk installed | 05:55 |
| k-s | dospod: ah, ok | 05:55 |
| k-s | dospod: do you have xterm on your device? | 05:56 |
| dospod | nope im a 15 script kiddie with a hacker toy | 05:56 |
| dospod | yes i have xterm | 05:56 |
| k-s | dospod: you can try to use python-lightmediascanner test.py to do some tests | 05:57 |
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| k-s | I'll get a pointer to you, just a min... | 05:57 |
| dospod | thanks | 05:57 |
| KotCzarny | 0x893f93a | 05:58 |
| KotCzarny | ^ pointer | 05:58 |
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| k-s | dospod: http://staff.get-e.org/?p=users/barbieri/python-lightmediascanner.git;a=blob_plain;f=examples/test.py;hb=HEAD | 05:59 |
| k-s | dospod: download this file as test.py (or any name you want) | 06:00 |
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| k-s | dospod: then go to xterm (or ssh) and run: python test.py 1 10000 /home/user/lms-test.db id3 ISO-8859-1 /media/PATH/TO/MUSIC | 06:01 |
| dospod | it hasnt even dled yet :/ | 06:02 |
| k-s | dospod: you can then check with "sqlite3 /home/user/lms-test.db" | 06:02 |
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| k-s | dospod: it's easier if you can isolate the media in smaller folders and try on them individually, remove the database between runs (rm /home/user/lms-test.db) | 06:03 |
| k-s | dospod: gotta run now, but post a bug report or mail me at barbieri at gmail | 06:03 |
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| christefano | can anyone help me check to see if my N810's GPS is working? I can't seem to get a GPS fix | 07:41 |
| pupnik | lay it out in the open, unobstructed by trees or buildings and wait 4 minutes | 07:42 |
| christefano | I'm not sure I waited 4 minutes. I'll try that | 07:43 |
| KotCzarny | pupnik: i hacked in dpad :> | 07:43 |
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| pupnik | cool | 08:00 |
| KotCzarny | wanna see it? | 08:01 |
| KotCzarny | :> | 08:01 |
| pupnik | yes | 08:01 |
| pupnik | it's faster than stock uae, yes? | 08:01 |
| KotCzarny | mrrau.dyndns.org:23280/n800/uae/uae4all.gz | 08:01 |
| KotCzarny | i don't know | 08:01 |
| KotCzarny | but it's based on cyclone cpu emu | 08:01 |
| pupnik | ok i'll tell you | 08:01 |
| KotCzarny | so i guess yes | 08:01 |
| KotCzarny | :> | 08:01 |
| KotCzarny | replace binary from an earlier package with this one | 08:02 |
| KotCzarny | mrrau.dyndns.org:23280/n800/uae/readme.txt | 08:02 |
| KotCzarny | mouse needs to be fixed | 08:03 |
| KotCzarny | but otherwise it's very playable | 08:03 |
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| KotCzarny | superfrog ran ~10-30fps | 08:04 |
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| pupnik | i don't have another uae4all install | 08:04 |
| pupnik | shall i follow your readme? | 08:05 |
| KotCzarny | yes | 08:05 |
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| pupnik | where do i get lib contents? | 08:06 |
| KotCzarny | hum | 08:06 |
| KotCzarny | moment | 08:06 |
| KotCzarny | refresh | 08:06 |
| pupnik | dank u wel | 08:07 |
| KotCzarny | danke schon ? ;) | 08:07 |
| pupnik | what rom version works? 1.2, 3.0? | 08:09 |
| KotCzarny | i ran 1.3 | 08:09 |
| KotCzarny | but i guess any will do | 08:09 |
| KotCzarny | just name or symlink it to kick.rom | 08:09 |
| pupnik | i have my own esddsp bin, but i want to use yours | 08:11 |
| KotCzarny | esddsp is a script | 08:11 |
| KotCzarny | i guess it's the lib that does the work | 08:11 |
| pupnik | ok i try it | 08:11 |
| pupnik | awesome | 08:11 |
| KotCzarny | :) | 08:11 |
| KotCzarny | works? | 08:12 |
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| pupnik | yes selecting disk image | 08:12 |
| KotCzarny | i have started working #ifdef N8x0 over the code | 08:13 |
| pupnik | segfaulted on lemmings | 08:13 |
| KotCzarny | what nokia do you have? | 08:13 |
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| pupnik | n810 os2008 | 08:13 |
| KotCzarny | hum | 08:13 |
| KotCzarny | maybe it's the compile flags | 08:13 |
| pupnik | i try with gdb | 08:14 |
| dskippy | How do I install gstreamer-tools on maemo os2008? I have it in red pill mode and have enabled the extras packages. | 08:14 |
| KotCzarny | dskippy: apt-get install gstreamer-tools | 08:14 |
| dskippy | KotCzarny, Doesn't find it. | 08:14 |
| pupnik | KotCzarny: is there any sound playing in the uae4all menu? | 08:14 |
| dskippy | I'm pretty sure it's gstreamer0.10-tools but I did try both. | 08:15 |
| KotCzarny | pupnik: probably, but disabled for now | 08:15 |
| pupnik | ok there are no debugging symbols | 08:18 |
| KotCzarny | i can recompile | 08:18 |
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| pupnik | switching to SDL_HWSURFACE... done | 08:20 |
| pupnik | rmmod: mmuhack: No such file or directory | 08:20 |
| pupnik | insmod: can't open '-f': No such file or directory | 08:20 |
| pupnik | Using PAL timing | 08:20 |
| pupnik | Fatal signal: Segmentation Fault (SDL Parachute Deployed) | 08:20 |
| KotCzarny | mmuhack is a gp2x fallout | 08:20 |
| pupnik | yeah it's not important | 08:20 |
| pupnik | but i need to see where it's segfaulting | 08:21 |
| pupnik | i have kick13.rom renamed to kick.rom | 08:21 |
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| KotCzarny | ah. btw. show me ls ? | 08:23 |
| KotCzarny | i mean ls -lR of the dir you're running from | 08:24 |
| KotCzarny | pastebin.com | 08:24 |
| KotCzarny | or #kotc | 08:24 |
| KotCzarny | it segfaults if data/*bmp are not accessible | 08:24 |
| KotCzarny | anyway, uae4all-g.gz | 08:25 |
| KotCzarny | same link | 08:25 |
| pupnik | http://pastebin.ca/933283 | 08:25 |
| KotCzarny | and how are you running it ? | 08:26 |
| pupnik | /usr/bin/esddsp ./uae4all | 08:26 |
| KotCzarny | hum | 08:28 |
| KotCzarny | maybe try running it as root? | 08:29 |
| pupnik | Program received signal SIGSEGV, Segmentation fault. | 08:30 |
| pupnik | [Switching to Thread 1073794048 (LWP 1431)] | 08:30 |
| pupnik | unrecognized_callback () at src/m68k/cyclone/m68k_intrf.cpp:231 | 08:30 |
| pupnik | 231 src/m68k/cyclone/m68k_intrf.cpp: No such file or directory. in src/m68k/cyclone/m68k_intrf.cpp | 08:30 |
| pupnik | odd | 08:30 |
| pupnik | (gdb) bt | 08:30 |
| pupnik | #0 unrecognized_callback () at src/m68k/cyclone/m68k_intrf.cpp:231 | 08:30 |
| KotCzarny | line 230: // This is from the dummy Kickstart replacement | 08:31 |
| KotCzarny | line 231: uae_u16 arg = *(uae_u16 *)(pc+2); | 08:31 |
| pupnik | maybe i try other rom | 08:31 |
| pupnik | lol wtf | 08:32 |
| KotCzarny | hmm? | 08:32 |
| KotCzarny | btw. source is the original source without my hacks | 08:34 |
| pupnik | i try a few disks to load | 08:34 |
| pupnik | oh | 08:34 |
| pupnik | hehe | 08:34 |
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| LinuxCode | morning ;-D | 12:51 |
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| jaska_ | found out the hard way that nand-test writes to flash even if not in r/w mode :) | 12:53 |
| jaska_ | good thing i didnt use it on the bootloader partition | 12:53 |
| johnx | O_o | 12:53 |
| johnx | close call, eh? | 12:54 |
| LinuxCode | johnx, use gpe ? | 12:54 |
| LinuxCode | if so there are two issues with evolution | 12:54 |
| LinuxCode | 1. there are 2 categories | 12:54 |
| LinuxCode | 1 a user category and one a to do list category | 12:54 |
| LinuxCode | as example | 12:54 |
| LinuxCode | only to do categories get synced | 12:55 |
| LinuxCode | then gpesynd crashes! | 12:55 |
| LinuxCode | when there are odd chars | 12:55 |
| johnx | neat | 12:55 |
| LinuxCode | specifically in contacts! | 12:55 |
| johnx | I keep all my PIM stuff in text files and sync with rsync :) | 12:55 |
| LinuxCode | otherwise its awesome | 12:55 |
| LinuxCode | ;-} | 12:55 |
| LinuxCode | I need to remake my contacts | 12:55 |
| LinuxCode | I imported them from a vcf I exported from my old mobile | 12:56 |
| LinuxCode | which probably is the issue anyway | 12:56 |
| LinuxCode | standards have changed I bet | 12:56 |
| johnx | ah...vcf support must be harder than it looks | 12:56 |
| johnx | it usually is that way when I don't know about things | 12:56 |
| LinuxCode | hehe | 12:57 |
| LinuxCode | well thats just how I got my mobile crap out of the phone hehe | 12:57 |
| LinuxCode | never managed to sync it | 12:57 |
| LinuxCode | although people report it works | 12:58 |
| johnx | I didn't manage to get my stuff out of my last phone :/ | 12:58 |
| johnx | the stupid thing had no interface to the outside world except through GSM and I had no data plan | 12:58 |
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| Dazgard | hi | 13:27 |
| EvilGuru | Hi Dazgard | 13:28 |
| Dazgard | can i use my n800 to share it's internet connection with on pc using an usb cable please ? | 13:28 |
| KotCzarny | yes | 13:28 |
| KotCzarny | but you will need special usb cable | 13:28 |
| Dazgard | the n800 is connected to the net throught a wifi AP | 13:29 |
| Dazgard | :( | 13:29 |
| KotCzarny | ok. i'm off to bed | 13:29 |
| johnx | KotCzarny, what do you mean special usb cable? | 13:30 |
| johnx | Dazgard, are you using windows or linux on the pc? | 13:30 |
| Dazgard | linux | 13:30 |
| Dazgard | but i can use windows too, it's installed on some other partition | 13:30 |
| johnx | it's easier in linux :) | 13:31 |
| johnx | do you already have usb networking setup between the tablet and the linux desktop? | 13:31 |
| Dazgard | no | 13:31 |
| Dazgard | i never did it before | 13:31 |
| johnx | alright, then first follow this: http://maemo.org/development/documentation/how-tos/4-x/setting_up_usb_networking.html | 13:32 |
| Dazgard | ok, im going to read this | 13:32 |
| johnx | what distro are you using? Debian/ubuntu? | 13:32 |
| Dazgard | thanks | 13:32 |
| Dazgard | ubuntu hardy | 13:32 |
| johnx | basically, what you'll need to do is first get usb networking, then you'll need to either build or find the iptables modules for the tablet that support NAT | 13:33 |
| johnx | this is of course all in theory since I haven't done it...but it *should* work | 13:33 |
| johnx | well, I've setup usb networking, but the internet sharing was the other direction, tablet borrowing inet access from the pc | 13:34 |
| Dazgard | ok, i'm going dig this :) | 13:34 |
| johnx | good luck. :) feel free to ask here if you get stuck | 13:34 |
| Dazgard | so the other direction should be fine too, i just need the right kerbel module | 13:35 |
| johnx | yeah, I would assume | 13:36 |
| johnx | and you'd need to add all the lines about iptables to the *tablet* instead of the *desktop*, the reverse of what that page I linked says | 13:37 |
| denny | heyla... I'm looking for an IRC client for my 810. It looks like xchat should be available, but the site maemo.org links to seems to be lacking any content... any suggestions? | 13:40 |
| pH5 | it would be cool if you could update that page once it works. | 13:40 |
| johnx | denny, google: xchat chinook beta | 13:40 |
| denny | ta | 13:41 |
| johnx | hmm...that used to give the repo as the first result O_o | 13:41 |
| johnx | s/repo/site/ | 13:41 |
| infobot | johnx meant: hmm...that used to give the site as the first result O_o | 13:41 |
| johnx | but now it's pushed out of the way by me talking about it in IRC :/ | 13:42 |
| denny | 2.8.4 ? | 13:42 |
| johnx | yeah | 13:43 |
| johnx | rm-fr.net | 13:43 |
| * denny nods | 13:43 | |
| Dazgard | guys, i've this error : | 13:43 |
| Dazgard | insmod: cannot insert '/mnt/initfs/lib/modules/2.6.21-omap1/g_ether.ko': Device or resource busy (-1): Device or resource busy | 13:43 |
| johnx | are you already plugged into USB? | 13:43 |
| Dazgard | oh, my god, shome on me | 13:43 |
| Dazgard | lol | 13:43 |
| johnx | :D | 13:43 |
| johnx | for once that message is actually accurate | 13:44 |
| denny | oh hey, where can I get some nice themes for this thing? and will a theme sort out the five-mile-wide scroll bar I seem to currently have? | 13:44 |
| johnx | first: there aren't many themes, but some are at downloads.maemo.org, second I don't think any of the current themes adjust scrollbar size | 13:45 |
| LinuxCode | I have a site | 13:45 |
| LinuxCode | not a repo though | 13:45 |
| denny | the scrollbar is about a cm thick on my screen - is that normal? it seems a bit silly when space is so tight | 13:45 |
| LinuxCode | johnx, wasnt it you who gave me that ?!?! | 13:46 |
| johnx | gave you what? | 13:46 |
| LinuxCode | xchat link | 13:46 |
| * johnx is pretty forgetful O_o | 13:46 | |
| LinuxCode | or it was lcuk | 13:46 |
| johnx | yeah, but I always just tell people to google for it | 13:46 |
| LinuxCode | haha | 13:46 |
| LinuxCode | k | 13:46 |
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| LinuxCode | http://zeus.rm-fr.net/~skyhusker/xchat-chinook-betas/ <-- | 13:47 |
| LinuxCode | for anyone reading | 13:47 |
| Dazgard | man, that internet tablet still amazed me to the top after 1 year !! | 13:47 |
| Dazgard | wonderful | 13:47 |
| johnx | and it *used to* show the right site as the first result, but the IRC logs of (mostly this channel) are now the first results :/ | 13:47 |
| LinuxCode | Dazgard, yep | 13:47 |
| LinuxCode | and with chinook...more and more appz become available | 13:48 |
| LinuxCode | every day | 13:48 |
| LinuxCode | its like x-mas every week | 13:48 |
| johnx | and hopefully chinook is the last really big API break | 13:48 |
| LinuxCode | seeing what each update brings | 13:48 |
| LinuxCode | http://kakaroto.homelinux.net/~kakaroto/n810/ <-- amsn for N810 | 13:49 |
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| LinuxCode | supports the webcam too | 13:49 |
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| LinuxCode | things I use most are xchat, amsn, fbreader, gpe cal to-do etc.. gpesyncd, pdf/evince | 13:50 |
| LinuxCode | the shell obviously! | 13:50 |
| Dazgard | LinuxCode: amazing app :D | 13:50 |
| johnx | really not a fan of having to use the terminal on my N800 :/ it's probably the lack of included keyboard... | 13:50 |
| LinuxCode | ahh theres a vnc now too | 13:51 |
| LinuxCode | johnx, yeh ;-| | 13:51 |
| LinuxCode | I was pondering to buy the N800 | 13:51 |
| LinuxCode | as it was cheap | 13:51 |
| LinuxCode | but...I glad I did not! | 13:51 |
| LinuxCode | Im | 13:51 |
| LinuxCode | keybaord is awesome | 13:51 |
| LinuxCode | I play bomberman all the time using the keybaord haha | 13:51 |
| LinuxCode | and pengupop | 13:51 |
| LinuxCode | when im on the train on the way home | 13:52 |
| johnx | pengupop doesn't need a keyboard...and pingus is a blast | 13:52 |
| * johnx played pingus on the train today :D | 13:52 | |
| LinuxCode | hehe | 13:52 |
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| LinuxCode | I need to wipe my contacts | 13:55 |
| LinuxCode | and start from scratch | 13:55 |
| LinuxCode | see if they sync | 13:55 |
| LinuxCode | maybe best to move them out first hehe | 13:55 |
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| denny- | well that worked :-) | 13:59 |
| denny- | thanks for the link... catch you later | 14:00 |
| johnx | ah good. I should try it on my n800 now that I have a keyboard :) | 14:00 |
| johnx | 'later | 14:00 |
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| LinuxCode | john try what mate ? | 14:00 |
| johnx | xchat on the tablet :) | 14:01 |
| LinuxCode | ahh | 14:01 |
| LinuxCode | try gpe | 14:01 |
| LinuxCode | hehe | 14:01 |
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| LinuxCode | you know you want to | 14:01 |
| LinuxCode | DEPP DOWN | 14:01 |
| johnx | heh...so I can fix your problem with syncing? | 14:01 |
| LinuxCode | DEEP even | 14:01 |
| LinuxCode | naa | 14:01 |
| LinuxCode | nothing to fix mate | 14:01 |
| LinuxCode | well... | 14:01 |
| LinuxCode | gpesyncd needs a fix but it synces | 14:01 |
| johnx | ah, cool | 14:01 |
| LinuxCode | just have to remake my contacts | 14:01 |
| LinuxCode | atm im syncing by excluding contacts | 14:02 |
| LinuxCode | which is ok | 14:02 |
| LinuxCode | main this for me is | 14:02 |
| LinuxCode | thing | 14:02 |
| LinuxCode | todo + calendar | 14:02 |
| LinuxCode | <---- emental cheese memory | 14:02 |
| LinuxCode | emmental | 14:03 |
| LinuxCode | it has big holes! | 14:03 |
| johnx | yeah, I let my phone handle contacts | 14:03 |
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| Dazgard | are there people with the nat module compiled please ? | 14:16 |
| Dazgard | would not like to go through teh whole compile precess :s | 14:16 |
| LinuxCode | Dazgard, I dont thing the N810 has kernel modules | 14:16 |
| LinuxCode | its compiled in | 14:17 |
| LinuxCode | afaik | 14:17 |
| Dazgard | im using the n800... lucky you :) | 14:17 |
| johnx | LinuxCode, what modules are you talking about? :P | 14:17 |
| LinuxCode | kerne modules ? | 14:17 |
| johnx | Dazgard, they run the same exact software... | 14:17 |
| Dazgard | the iptable nat module | 14:17 |
| LinuxCode | I thought the firmwares were static | 14:17 |
| johnx | LinuxCode, you're possibly a little confused :) | 14:18 |
| LinuxCode | more than likely | 14:18 |
| Dazgard | :) | 14:18 |
| LinuxCode | had a 36 hours deadline session the last days | 14:18 |
| johnx | Dazgard, let me see if fanoush compiled them | 14:18 |
| LinuxCode | no sleep | 14:18 |
| johnx | O_o | 14:18 |
| johnx | why hang out on IRC then? go to sleep man! | 14:18 |
| LinuxCode | i already did | 14:18 |
| Dazgard | lol | 14:18 |
| LinuxCode | wouldnt be here otherwise! | 14:19 |
| LinuxCode | just mybrain is dead | 14:19 |
| LinuxCode | hehe | 14:19 |
| LinuxCode | brain drain | 14:19 |
| johnx | aaah...so you're dreaming you're on IRC? | 14:19 |
| LinuxCode | ;-p | 14:19 |
| Dazgard | hahaha, funny | 14:19 |
| LinuxCode | lol | 14:19 |
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| Dazgard | my n800 will act as a luxurious internet usb dongle for my home pc, wonderful | 14:21 |
| Dazgard | next i would like to develop an ardour remote controler based on python and OSC :D | 14:21 |
| johnx | alright, I'll see if I can get the NAT/iptables stuff to compile, but no guarantees :P | 14:21 |
| Dazgard | cool :) | 14:21 |
| Dazgard | thanks man | 14:22 |
| johnx | no promises...if I can't get it to compile easily I won't spend a lot of time on it. :) | 14:22 |
| Dazgard | no problem | 14:22 |
| LinuxCode | I need a wroking QEMU SDK appliance | 14:22 |
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| LinuxCode | my vmware is stupid | 14:23 |
| LinuxCode | cant flatten a vmware image | 14:23 |
| LinuxCode | the app crashes ;-| | 14:23 |
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| johnx | great...scratchbox is screwed up | 14:26 |
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| johnx | errr...nope, just PEBKAC | 14:27 |
| Dazgard | sad news | 14:27 |
| johnx | heh | 14:28 |
| Dazgard | i think i'll install qemu and use the vmware applaince :s | 14:28 |
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| johnx | do you know what PEBKAC means? | 14:29 |
| LinuxCode | johnx, whats the pebkac | 14:29 |
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| LinuxCode | mayeb thats my issue | 14:29 |
| johnx | problem exists between keyboard and chair :) | 14:29 |
| LinuxCode | nooo | 14:29 |
| johnx | as in, it didn't work because I was being dumb :D | 14:30 |
| LinuxCode | whats the PEBKAC! | 14:30 |
| LinuxCode | as in THE | 14:30 |
| LinuxCode | hehe | 14:30 |
| LinuxCode | hang on a sec | 14:30 |
| LinuxCode | did you say...its me before ? or did you have a pebkac moment ? | 14:31 |
| * LinuxCode is confused | 14:31 | |
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| LinuxCode | eating lunch doesnt help that confusion | 14:31 |
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| johnx | as in...I was complaining about scratchbox but I realized the problem was me | 14:31 |
| LinuxCode | k | 14:31 |
| LinuxCode | what was the problem | 14:31 |
| LinuxCode | ? | 14:32 |
| johnx | trying to compile the kernel while scratchbox was in x86 mode | 14:32 |
| LinuxCode | ahh ok | 14:32 |
| LinuxCode | I cant even get it to work | 14:32 |
| johnx | where do you get stuck? | 14:32 |
| LinuxCode | which is proabbly more due to the fact that there missing files | 14:32 |
| LinuxCode | it says something about error on line 66 | 14:32 |
| LinuxCode | havent got it loaded atm | 14:33 |
| LinuxCode | but there were other errors...stating missing files | 14:33 |
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| LinuxCode | which probably is related | 14:33 |
| LinuxCode | I tell ya in a few | 14:33 |
| * LinuxCode finishes eating pizza | 14:33 | |
| johnx | mmm...pizza | 14:33 |
| Dazgard | :) | 14:33 |
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| LoCusF | how do I list all installed packages? | 14:39 |
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| johnx | dpkg --get-selections | 14:41 |
| * LinuxCode clicks on scratchbox | 14:42 | |
| johnx | Dazgard, well it's compiling O_o ... You'll get to be the guinea pig though. :D | 14:42 |
| LinuxCode | ohh wait | 14:43 |
| LinuxCode | I fucked around with this one | 14:43 |
| * LinuxCode unpacks new one | 14:43 | |
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| Dazgard | lol | 14:45 |
| Dazgard | johnx: happy to be that pig :p | 14:46 |
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| johnx | alright, once it finishes compiling I'll have to figure out a way to send you the modules... | 14:46 |
| LinuxCode | johnx, rsync ? | 14:48 |
| LinuxCode | straight into his N810 | 14:48 |
| LinuxCode | heheh | 14:48 |
| LinuxCode | or whatever hes suing | 14:48 |
| johnx | heh | 14:49 |
| Dazgard | dcc ? | 14:51 |
| Dazgard | i've a little problem... my n800 is out of batery :s | 14:53 |
| johnx | charging it might help :) | 14:53 |
| Dazgard | and i've only my car charger | 14:53 |
| johnx | no regular charger? | 14:53 |
| johnx | anyways, it's a 576KB tar.bz2 for the modules | 14:55 |
| johnx | I can email them to you or dcc them I guess | 14:55 |
| Dazgard | johnx: no i pass it to someone at walk, and the guy just take it to his home :) | 14:56 |
| pupnik | awesome ... james pond | 14:57 |
| Dazgard | send the on dazgard At gmail dot com plz | 14:57 |
| johnx | alright | 14:57 |
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| johnx | Dazgard, sent. | 15:00 |
| LoCusF | johnx: ok | 15:02 |
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| LinuxCode | lol | 15:04 |
| LinuxCode | just kidding | 15:04 |
| Dazgard | cool men | 15:05 |
| Dazgard | i'll have to go to the car to charge this little toy | 15:06 |
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| Dazgard | and next, if you 'are still here, i'll elt you know about the sucess/error story :) | 15:06 |
| johnx | alright | 15:07 |
| johnx | good luck | 15:07 |
| LinuxCode | they didnt give you a charger for the N800! | 15:07 |
| LinuxCode | wtf | 15:07 |
| LinuxCode | what country you live in ? | 15:07 |
| LinuxCode | probably south africa... a way to save energy | 15:08 |
| LinuxCode | cuning plan | 15:08 |
| johnx | someone borrowed it from him... | 15:08 |
| LinuxCode | sell devices without chargers | 15:08 |
| LinuxCode | ahh | 15:08 |
| LinuxCode | thieved ? | 15:08 |
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| lcuk_2 | 5 fingered discount | 15:08 |
| johnx | I think just forget to give it back... | 15:08 |
| LinuxCode | "forget" | 15:08 |
| LinuxCode | lcuk_2, oi! | 15:08 |
| lcuk_2 | oi yourself | 15:08 |
| LinuxCode | lcuk_2, didnt you use gpe ? | 15:09 |
| LinuxCode | because I figured the issue out | 15:09 |
| lcuk_2 | i only use gpe when i skydive, otherwise i dont like falling to earth | 15:09 |
| LinuxCode | two issues actually | 15:09 |
| lcuk_2 | ive never used gpe.. should i be? | 15:10 |
| LinuxCode | hehe | 15:10 |
| LinuxCode | k | 15:10 |
| LinuxCode | N810 doesnt have a to do list | 15:10 |
| johnx | LinuxCode is our local gpe salesman | 15:10 |
| johnx | :D | 15:10 |
| LinuxCode | or calendar | 15:10 |
| LinuxCode | johnx, well...a pda needs a cal+contacts+todo | 15:11 |
| lcuk_2 | todo list = notes, calendar = hmmm dunno cos i dont need one | 15:11 |
| LinuxCode | but then maybe thats why they called it an IT | 15:11 |
| lcuk_2 | i agree with that | 15:11 |
| lcuk_2 | higher priority though is kidnapping skype guy and supergluing an 810 to his hands so he has to use it - we would have video soon after | 15:12 |
| lcuk_2 | (and an arrest warrant, but thats minor) | 15:12 |
| LinuxCode | lol | 15:12 |
| LinuxCode | I thought that often myself | 15:12 |
| johnx | and restraining orders, lawyer's fees, jail time...lcuk_2 what have you gotten us into?! | 15:12 |
| LinuxCode | not ebing able to use webcam = stupid | 15:12 |
| LinuxCode | johnx, its the Uk | 15:13 |
| LinuxCode | legal aid is for that | 15:13 |
| LinuxCode | and the udge will sya..it was for the greater good | 15:13 |
| lcuk_2 | yes johnx, its solicitors fees | 15:13 |
| LinuxCode | judge | 15:13 |
| lcuk_2 | the rest is right tho ;) | 15:13 |
| LinuxCode | 30 hours community service | 15:13 |
| LinuxCode | heheh | 15:13 |
| lcuk_2 | and a prison issue hoodie "Property of HMP" | 15:13 |
| LinuxCode | lool | 15:13 |
| LinuxCode | naa the judge wil have a N810 | 15:14 |
| LinuxCode | and think...why isnt there webcam support on my skype | 15:14 |
| lcuk_2 | nahhh judges play ds | 15:14 |
| LinuxCode | lol | 15:14 |
| LinuxCode | a game called "Bobo" ? | 15:14 |
| LinuxCode | rofl | 15:14 |
| lcuk_2 | you see them playing mario sonic at olympics and furiously scribbling just under the table | 15:15 |
| LinuxCode | some amiga games are still awesome | 15:15 |
| LinuxCode | thats whats missing | 15:15 |
| LinuxCode | a UAE emu | 15:15 |
| lcuk_2 | ive seen a few people talking about getting uae working on here | 15:15 |
| Dazgard | LinuxCode: talking about amiga games | 15:15 |
| lcuk_2 | but i would want native games | 15:15 |
| LinuxCode | then id make myself an adapter lol | 15:15 |
| lcuk_2 | i didnt buy this device for it to become another mame machine | 15:16 |
| LinuxCode | for my usb competition pro | 15:16 |
| lcuk_2 | native =the way to go - we just have to find people willing to code directly for it | 15:16 |
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| jott | what's so bad about emulation? :) | 15:16 |
| * lcuk_2 is coding directly for the device, but not game based atm | 15:16 | |
| jott | making a good game is not a weekend project.. | 15:17 |
| lcuk_2 | platforms with a high priority in emulation show the device cannot stand on its own merits | 15:17 |
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| lcuk_2 | good games CAN be wrote in a weekend - the artwork around them however takes longer :) | 15:18 |
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| lcuk_2 | unless you are rolf harris | 15:18 |
| Dazgard | there was a game with a little ship | 15:18 |
| jott | level design, balance, sound/music, ... etc.etc | 15:18 |
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| Dazgard | do someone know the name | 15:18 |
| lcuk_2 | but if you have had a pet project in mind for a while then it will come together - and if enough people have a desire to do it then it will work | 15:18 |
| Dazgard | i do know whith only that, it'll be pretty hard to guess with one | 15:19 |
| Dazgard | but i've not other info | 15:19 |
| jott | i see no point in writing games _only_ for the ITs :p | 15:19 |
| lcuk_2 | nor do i - but writing new software is good | 15:20 |
| lcuk_2 | i can only speak from a book perspective (because thats what i am looking towards) but fbreader is multi platform, but whilst its basic rendering technology works its sluggish as hell with most books i read. im building something specific for now which will work well within the bounds of what we have | 15:21 |
| jott | there are actually very few programs that make sense to develop with only ITs in mind.. | 15:21 |
| lcuk_2 | similar to how we used to code for amiga or spectrum - multi platform targetting is good as long as you dont sacrifice the best of what your original platform has to offer | 15:22 |
| jott | and i guess you could make fbreader fast enough to be usable without loosing platform abstraction | 15:22 |
| johnx | it's funny, because it isn't as slow on a zaurus... | 15:22 |
| lcuk_2 | aim for me is to write a specific reading engine then see how i can get that into fb and make use of best of all worlds | 15:22 |
| lcuk_2 | its the rendering tree and 800*480 from sdl | 15:23 |
| johnx | but when the zaurus is in "portrait" mode that's the native rotation for its LCD... | 15:23 |
| lcuk_2 | native rotation be damned, its only blitting glyphs(sprites) onto a canvass | 15:23 |
| johnx | lcuk_2, but doesn't fbreader seem to render faster in landscape than portrait on the n8x0? | 15:24 |
| lcuk_2 | and the 8x0 also has native rotation built into the lcd, its just not used because of sdl | 15:24 |
| johnx | hmm "not used because of sdl" | 15:24 |
| johnx | elaborate please... | 15:24 |
| jott | sdl does not support hardware rotation :) | 15:25 |
| johnx | aaah...so it needs to be abstracted somewhere | 15:25 |
| lcuk_2 | sdl does not support telling it to open a fullscreen window rotated 270 degrees although if you configure the framebuffer correctly you can send data in normal order and have the lcd rotate it for you | 15:25 |
| johnx | I think the fbreader guy probably doesn't want to get that close to the hardware O_o | 15:26 |
| jott | actually sdl should really be optimized for the ITs.. :) | 15:26 |
| lcuk_2 | YES | 15:26 |
| lcuk_2 | but that means getting a maintainer for it | 15:26 |
| lcuk_2 | because you couldnt just do it once | 15:26 |
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| * jott builds a time machine | 15:27 | |
| johnx | KotCzarny built an x server / fb driver with the fb rotation patches that were up | 15:27 |
| johnx | I should poke at him to let me test those | 15:27 |
| jott | johnx: i did so too :) | 15:27 |
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| LinuxCode | jott, backward patching ? | 15:27 |
| johnx | ah, cool | 15:27 |
| jott | johnx: http://sse2.net/roate | 15:27 |
| lcuk_2 | now, ive gone lower than sdl and am using x and xv - its a YUV format, so booked are greyscale but i gain 25fps+ fullscreen tear free 800*480 frames | 15:27 |
| LinuxCode | by timing a few years back ..altering events ? | 15:27 |
| jott | (i even wrote a statusbar rotation app :P | 15:27 |
| lcuk_2 | if i decide to lower the res i gain 50fps+ frames of a lower res *automatically scaled* | 15:28 |
| jott | quite usable | 15:28 |
| LinuxCode | link dont work | 15:28 |
| lcuk_2 | yes jott | 15:28 |
| johnx | jott, how badly does hildon-desktop break? :) | 15:28 |
| lcuk_2 | yours uses a .ko though doesnt it | 15:28 |
| johnx | LinuxCode, spelling :) | 15:28 |
| LinuxCode | ohh | 15:28 |
| LinuxCode | rotate | 15:28 |
| LinuxCode | lolol | 15:28 |
| jott | johnx: well the menu is not really usable but for most things its really ok | 15:28 |
| * LinuxCode smacks head on desk | 15:28 | |
| jott | (like browsing using fbreader etc) | 15:28 |
| johnx | so apps seem to cope with it ok for the most part? | 15:29 |
| johnx | that's very encouraging news | 15:29 |
| lcuk_2 | how quickly does it switch jott? is it usable to go from 0rotated desktop to 90deg fullscreen app in the blink of an eye? | 15:29 |
| jott | as the rotation is managed by the randr extension there the rotation is instant so you can easily rotate at runtime | 15:29 |
| jott | rotation takes ~1 sec | 15:29 |
| jott | johnx: yeah for most part it works.. some dialogs are too wide .. | 15:30 |
| lcuk_2 | i believe it can be done inter frame by poking the ioctl on the framebuffer - ive started to follow xv down the line at the moment to possibly allow it | 15:30 |
| johnx | good news for getting maemo on the vga zauruses then :D | 15:30 |
| jott | hehe.. yeah as the menu is closed source anyway :P | 15:30 |
| johnx | the menu? | 15:30 |
| jott | or is it open? | 15:31 |
| jott | application launcher | 15:31 |
| johnx | the side bar, top bar, and app menu are open | 15:31 |
| lcuk_2 | speaking of which - i get the xv sources from x11 dont i? and do they include the omap/blizzard specific source? | 15:31 |
| johnx | browser and communications menu are closed | 15:31 |
| jott | ah ok.. | 15:31 |
| jott | anyway. the app menu would need some tweaking.. | 15:31 |
| johnx | I just dropped the whole left bar for now | 15:32 |
| lcuk_2 | stone bloke from nokia said there were lots of hard coded 800*480s in the closed source | 15:32 |
| johnx | takes up 80 freakin' pixels | 15:32 |
| lcuk_2 | a whole 80 :O | 15:32 |
| lcuk_2 | ;) | 15:32 |
| LinuxCode | lol | 15:32 |
| johnx | well, I don't care about the closed source anyways | 15:32 |
| johnx | 80 is a lot on a 640x480 screen | 15:32 |
| johnx | 80 pixels is a lot vertically for the tablet | 15:33 |
| jott | even more on a 480x640 screen ;) | 15:33 |
| jott | ;> | 15:33 |
| johnx | heh | 15:33 |
| LinuxCode | 640 ? | 15:33 |
| lcuk_2 | its still higher res than an iphone | 15:33 |
| lcuk_2 | and *they* manage ok | 15:33 |
| johnx | LinuxCode, i'm poking at hildon-desktop for the zaurus | 15:33 |
| LinuxCode | ohh | 15:33 |
| johnx | lcuk_2, it's not *that* bad in terms of hardcoded-ness | 15:34 |
| LinuxCode | traitors | 15:34 |
| LinuxCode | lol | 15:34 |
| johnx | the theming is just really ugly | 15:34 |
| lcuk_2 | fair enough | 15:34 |
| * LinuxCode strokes his n810 | 15:34 | |
| lcuk_2 | mmmmmm mini laptop http://img99.imageshack.us/my.php?image=810cratelaptopmodetc6.jpg | 15:34 |
| LinuxCode | but then again | 15:34 |
| LinuxCode | the more devices..the more developers..the more distros | 15:34 |
| LinuxCode | the better for the software | 15:34 |
| LinuxCode | the better for the users | 15:35 |
| johnx | LinuxCode, exactly | 15:35 |
| LinuxCode | still...traitors | 15:35 |
| LinuxCode | lolol | 15:35 |
| LinuxCode | ;-D | 15:35 |
| LinuxCode | hahaha | 15:35 |
| johnx | and the zaurus users could really use a source of new apps | 15:35 |
| johnx | lcuk_2, your laptop is made of *wood* ... just so you know... | 15:35 |
| LinuxCode | looool @ pic | 15:36 |
| LinuxCode | bahaha | 15:36 |
| LinuxCode | wtf | 15:36 |
| lcuk_2 | dont forget the elastic band | 15:36 |
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| LinuxCode | hahaha | 15:36 |
| LinuxCode | does that come in the package ? | 15:36 |
| LinuxCode | a bag of rubber bands | 15:36 |
| LinuxCode | ? | 15:36 |
| LinuxCode | lolol | 15:36 |
| LinuxCode | with Nokia written on the bands | 15:36 |
| lcuk_2 | well it stops it boinking me on the head when im reading at night | 15:37 |
| johnx | get some duct tape on there and I'll call it a winner | 15:37 |
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| LinuxCode | that keybaord is nice | 15:37 |
| LinuxCode | what is it ? | 15:38 |
| johnx | apple bt keyboard | 15:38 |
| LinuxCode | nice | 15:38 |
| LinuxCode | be nicer if one coul;d fold it | 15:38 |
| johnx | oh you can | 15:38 |
| LinuxCode | ahh cool | 15:38 |
| johnx | it just doesn't unfold | 15:38 |
| LinuxCode | hahaha | 15:39 |
| LinuxCode | ok! | 15:39 |
| LinuxCode | ;-p | 15:39 |
| LinuxCode | isnt it shocking | 15:39 |
| LinuxCode | to think that a device like the N810 is like half the size of a small keyabord | 15:39 |
| LinuxCode | lol | 15:39 |
| * LinuxCode thinks of his old amiga | 15:39 | |
| * LinuxCode thinks portable device | 15:39 | |
| LinuxCode | lol | 15:40 |
| LinuxCode | nice just ordered food..its being delivered tomorrow | 15:40 |
| LinuxCode | one job less to do | 15:41 |
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| Dazgard | im leaving, i'll be back soon, with the charged tablet | 16:13 |
| Dazgard | and the working gateway i hope | 16:13 |
| Dazgard | see you later | 16:13 |
| Dazgard | and once again thanks | 16:13 |
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| pupnik | LinuxCode: amiga emulation is coming soon | 16:27 |
| pupnik | thanks to KotCzarny | 16:27 |
| pupnik | not the crap i built (UAE) | 16:28 |
| LinuxCode | sweet! | 16:28 |
| LinuxCode | cant wait to play giana sisters on the train then hehe | 16:28 |
| pupnik | the games are all too fast for me now :) | 16:28 |
| pupnik | oh gotta try that | 16:28 |
| LinuxCode | or | 16:28 |
| LinuxCode | hostages | 16:28 |
| LinuxCode | or | 16:28 |
| LinuxCode | man endless possibilities | 16:29 |
| LinuxCode | lol | 16:29 |
| pupnik | i was looking for a good amiga RPA | 16:29 |
| pupnik | RPG | 16:29 |
| h3sp4wn | Is there a way I can run risc os (fits in 2mb written in arm asm so should be fast) | 16:29 |
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| LinuxCode | pupnik, hmm | 16:30 |
| LinuxCode | sindbad | 16:30 |
| LinuxCode | ? | 16:30 |
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| LinuxCode | that looked quite good back then | 16:30 |
| pupnik | i see some, Eye of the Beholder, Dungeon Master, World of Legends, Realms of Arkania - Blade of Destiny | 16:31 |
| pupnik | ok thanks | 16:31 |
| LinuxCode | deja vu | 16:31 |
| LinuxCode | if you like it oldschool | 16:31 |
| pupnik | Just bought a cd of 500 amiga games for 5 euro | 16:31 |
| LinuxCode | pupnik, why ? | 16:31 |
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| LinuxCode | http://www.planetemu.net/ | 16:31 |
| LinuxCode | click on amiga under "ordis" | 16:32 |
| LinuxCode | on the right | 16:32 |
| LinuxCode | then under roms | 16:32 |
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| LinuxCode | amiga -games | 16:32 |
| LinuxCode | how soon will that amiga emu be ? | 16:33 |
| LinuxCode | lol | 16:33 |
| * LinuxCode rubs hands | 16:33 | |
| pupnik | trying to get it closer to 30fps | 16:33 |
| * LinuxCode fidgets around in his chair | 16:33 | |
| LinuxCode | 30fps! | 16:34 |
| LinuxCode | bloody hell | 16:34 |
| LinuxCode | hehe | 16:34 |
| LinuxCode | quake has 8 or so ?!?! | 16:34 |
| LinuxCode | lol | 16:34 |
| LinuxCode | so I read | 16:34 |
| pupnik | well 25 would be nice for pal games | 16:34 |
| LinuxCode | ahh k | 16:34 |
| LinuxCode | ;-D | 16:34 |
| pupnik | but really i need to finish my nes emu port | 16:35 |
| LinuxCode | will it be similar to e-uae ? | 16:35 |
| pupnik | that's rockin at 95-105fps | 16:35 |
| pupnik | not really | 16:35 |
| LinuxCode | but one can select uae games yes ? | 16:35 |
| pupnik | yes in-game menu | 16:36 |
| LinuxCode | k | 16:36 |
| pupnik | also there's no 2nd mouse button | 16:36 |
| LinuxCode | and it knows the joypad thing is the mouse and joystick ? | 16:36 |
| pupnik | the tablet layout just sux for fast games | 16:36 |
| LinuxCode | did amiga even have 2 seperate mouse buttons ?!?! | 16:36 |
| pupnik | yeah he made the dpad double as joystick and arrow keys | 16:36 |
| LinuxCode | I thought it was one | 16:36 |
| pupnik | oh.. hmm | 16:36 |
| lcuk_2 | no - apple was 1 button | 16:37 |
| pupnik | i just read something about button 2 - i forghot :) | 16:37 |
| lcuk_2 | amiga had 2 | 16:37 |
| lcuk_2 | big old dopey tank of a mouse with a click you could hear from orbit | 16:37 |
| LinuxCode | I recall a distinct pain in my right finger | 16:37 |
| LinuxCode | lcuk_2, hahaha | 16:37 |
| LinuxCode | and it made you cry with pain | 16:37 |
| LinuxCode | playing games like defender of the crown | 16:37 |
| lcuk_2 | no - it was first computer i had with a native mouse - it made me smile | 16:38 |
| LinuxCode | pupnik, I hope that amiga emu supports two floppies | 16:38 |
| lcuk_2 | i had a mouse on my spectrum but that only worked with one program | 16:38 |
| LinuxCode | ;-D | 16:38 |
| LinuxCode | defender of the crown would own | 16:38 |
| LinuxCode | lcuk_2, hehe | 16:38 |
| pupnik | no it only has 1 floppy but you can swap | 16:38 |
| lcuk_2 | and pupnik, if you are doing amiga emulation, make sure you make the memory stick port click | 16:38 |
| LinuxCode | I never had a speccy | 16:38 |
| LinuxCode | speccies were more a UK thing | 16:38 |
| LinuxCode | I grew up abroad | 16:38 |
| lcuk_2 | lucky for some | 16:39 |
| LinuxCode | pupnik, hmmm k | 16:39 |
| LinuxCode | ;-| | 16:39 |
| LinuxCode | lol | 16:39 |
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| LinuxCode | fortunately..most games come on one disc | 16:39 |
| LinuxCode | hahaha | 16:40 |
| LinuxCode | I can play barabrian then | 16:40 |
| LinuxCode | "Prepare to die!" | 16:40 |
| LinuxCode | lol | 16:40 |
| LinuxCode | "ding...ding....ding" | 16:40 |
| LinuxCode | pupnik, are you know e-uae | 16:40 |
| LinuxCode | any idea why my menu might not work ? | 16:41 |
| LinuxCode | ohh wait | 16:41 |
| LinuxCode | there was a gtk2 compile issue | 16:41 |
| LinuxCode | which I didnt get | 16:41 |
| LinuxCode | despite specifiying where it should look | 16:41 |
| LinuxCode | for the headers | 16:41 |
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| pupnik | you built e-uae LinuxCode ? | 16:41 |
| LinuxCode | yeh | 16:41 |
| LinuxCode | had to | 16:41 |
| pupnik | hehe | 16:42 |
| LinuxCode | but the menu wont show | 16:42 |
| pupnik | can you launch a game from commandline? | 16:42 |
| LinuxCode | I use the amd64 thing to save the settings then start my e-uae | 16:42 |
| LinuxCode | I built for x86_64 | 16:42 |
| LinuxCode | as Im using a quad core | 16:42 |
| LinuxCode | intel | 16:42 |
| LinuxCode | pupnik, it works | 16:42 |
| LinuxCode | just not the menu bit | 16:42 |
| lcuk_2 | lol @ thought of supergluing a quadcore onto the back of n810 ;) | 16:43 |
| LinuxCode | lcuk_2, lol | 16:43 |
| * LinuxCode glues a amd k6-2-400 on lcuk_2's forhead | 16:43 | |
| pupnik | do you have e-uae on the tablet? | 16:44 |
| lcuk_2 | oi! you knocked my H off | 16:44 |
| LinuxCode | pupnik, no | 16:44 |
| LinuxCode | I wish | 16:44 |
| pupnik | i think osemutech built it | 16:44 |
| LinuxCode | ohh! | 16:44 |
| LinuxCode | theres a link ?!?! | 16:44 |
| LinuxCode | for N810! | 16:44 |
| LinuxCode | GIMME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! | 16:44 |
| LinuxCode | please | 16:44 |
| lcuk_2 | its a shame we cant do a cross convert - arm asm looks suspiciously similar to 68k | 16:45 |
| pupnik | i don't know where it is | 16:45 |
| LinuxCode | pupnik, ohh noes | 16:45 |
| LinuxCode | you got me all excited | 16:45 |
| pupnik | http://pupnik.de/uae.html | 16:45 |
| LinuxCode | lol | 16:45 |
| johnx | LinuxCode, up on itt somewhere I'm sure | 16:45 |
| pupnik | you can try that but it's not so hot | 16:45 |
| LinuxCode | FND IT...OW! | 16:45 |
| * LinuxCode bookamrks pupnik's link | 16:45 | |
| * LinuxCode goes hunting on ITT | 16:45 | |
| pupnik | i think everybody needs to try my uae | 16:46 |
| pupnik | so they will better appreciate KotCzarny's work | 16:46 |
| LinuxCode | General: iPhone s/w wishlist: They want what we already have! (4) by tz | 16:46 |
| LinuxCode | lol | 16:46 |
| lcuk_2 | apple sdk is restricted to 1 user app and no background processing | 16:47 |
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| lcuk_2 | http://pupnik.de/uae.html | 16:47 |
| lcuk_2 | pup, will try it now :) | 16:47 |
| pupnik | I think there will still be a place for the general UAE on the tablets | 16:48 |
| pupnik | since it does 68020 and more resolutions | 16:48 |
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| lcuk_2 | 680ec20 surely ;)( | 16:49 |
| lcuk_2 | -( | 16:49 |
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| lcuk_2 | where is uae installed to pup? | 16:51 |
| lcuk_2 | im running from the shortcut but nothings happening ill run the command line | 16:52 |
| lcuk_2 | if i know where it is | 16:52 |
| pupnik | /usr/bin/uae | 16:52 |
| pupnik | sorry | 16:52 |
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| lcuk_2 | its ok - it ran without a path i got ruther from command line than with the shortcut | 16:52 |
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| KotCzarny | :) | 16:53 |
| pupnik | wb KotCzarny | 16:54 |
| lcuk_2 | where on earth would i find a workbench disk, and even once i have one how do i hook up a floppy drive ;0 | 16:54 |
| KotCzarny | just for a moment | 16:54 |
| KotCzarny | have you hacked anything interesting? | 16:54 |
| KotCzarny | :) | 16:54 |
| johnx | lcuk_2, usb floppy drive? | 16:55 |
| KotCzarny | lcuk: google | 16:55 |
| lcuk_2 | yer i know ill dig one out from somewhere - i could probably even get my original | 16:55 |
| KotCzarny | i have transferred all my floppies using amos program i wrote :> | 16:56 |
| KotCzarny | and serial link ;) | 16:56 |
| pupnik | i tried various compile flags KotCzarny - need some way to get fps over the run of the game | 16:56 |
| lcuk_2 | dont like how its using 16bit graphics by default tho - planar to chunky is expensive - it should be trying for the 2bp versions and a quick lookup table | 16:56 |
| KotCzarny | pupnik: getting around oss->esd could be one way | 16:57 |
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| KotCzarny | ie. hacking proper pcmtask support, or alsa | 16:57 |
| lcuk_2 | (for desktop) for games 5bpp should be enough | 16:57 |
| lcuk_2 | or did most use halfbright? | 16:57 |
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| pupnik | i see define NUM_DRIVES 2 in uae.h | 16:58 |
| pupnik | i need to do sound for fceu2 so maybe i will have a good backend sometime | 16:58 |
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| LinuxCode | http://www.planetemu.net/index.php?section=roms&dat=375 | 17:01 |
| KotCzarny | i should add a note about 512kb rom | 17:02 |
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| pupnik | KotCzarny: i think it'd be best to map the menu to the front 'menu' button maybe | 17:02 |
| pupnik | some games need joy button 2 i think? | 17:03 |
| KotCzarny | pupnik: that's work in progress | 17:03 |
| pupnik | i think menu is F4 - not sure | 17:03 |
| KotCzarny | i will make it configurable later | 17:03 |
| KotCzarny | ok, bbl | 17:04 |
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| LinuxCode | pupnik, installing mate | 17:08 |
| LinuxCode | ;-} | 17:08 |
| LinuxCode | ohh | 17:09 |
| LinuxCode | menu icon too | 17:09 |
| LinuxCode | hmmm | 17:09 |
| LinuxCode | i click the icon..it says loading..but nothing happens | 17:09 |
| pupnik | yeah it's broken, dunno why | 17:09 |
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| LinuxCode | menu has more than one floppy | 17:10 |
| LinuxCode | I thought ya said it dont work ? | 17:10 |
| LinuxCode | now i need a rom file | 17:12 |
| * LinuxCode uploads | 17:12 | |
| pupnik | LinuxCode: this new emu seems to have only one floppy | 17:14 |
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| florian | hi tigrux | 17:26 |
| tigrux | florian: Nice to see you here! | 17:26 |
| florian | tigrux: yeah, long time no see... how are you? | 17:27 |
| LinuxCode | im such a moron | 17:27 |
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| LinuxCode | couldnmt find my cable | 17:27 |
| LinuxCode | ;-[ | 17:27 |
| LinuxCode | it was tucked behnd some folder | 17:28 |
| tigrux | florian: I can complain. I work in a company that is developing the multimedia part of the linux systems for Texas Instruments, for its embedded with linux. | 17:28 |
| florian | tigrux: this sounds pretty good indeed | 17:28 |
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| lcuk_2 | hmm how do i ensure sprintf doesn't exceed my buffer, is there a sprintnf ? | 17:33 |
| florian | lcdd: snprintf | 17:34 |
| lcuk_2 | excellent thanks | 17:34 |
| LinuxCode | how do i make amiga boot ? | 17:37 |
| truls | turn on power | 17:38 |
| LinuxCode | truls, comedian ? | 17:38 |
| LinuxCode | hehe | 17:38 |
| truls | no, couchpoteta | 17:38 |
| truls | poteto | 17:38 |
| truls | almost the same | 17:38 |
| truls | less pay | 17:38 |
| LinuxCode | hmmmm | 17:42 |
| LinuxCode | nothing happens | 17:42 |
| * LinuxCode waits patiently | 17:42 | |
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| LinuxCode | hmmmm | 17:44 |
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| LinuxCode | pupnik, my rom wont even show the wrokbench | 17:46 |
| LinuxCode | i tried two | 17:47 |
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| pupnik | heh sux | 17:47 |
| pupnik | :/ | 17:47 |
| LinuxCode | wait | 17:47 |
| LinuxCode | maybe the files didnt transfer right | 17:47 |
| LinuxCode | for some odd reason they sometimes dont transfer | 17:48 |
| Proteous | plug in the cable next time | 17:48 |
| LinuxCode | shows 200kb | 17:48 |
| LinuxCode | should be ok | 17:48 |
| LinuxCode | Proteous, another comedian ? | 17:48 |
| Proteous | :P | 17:48 |
| LinuxCode | did I miss something today ? | 17:49 |
| LinuxCode | World comedian day ? | 17:49 |
| Proteous | no one told me, I'll have to step it up | 17:49 |
| LinuxCode | pupnik, did you try this on a N810 ? | 17:50 |
| LinuxCode | or did you just compile | 17:50 |
| LinuxCode | ? | 17:50 |
| * LinuxCode cries | 17:51 | |
| pupnik | sux doesn't it | 17:51 |
| LinuxCode | an amiga emu for N810 would be the icing on the cake | 17:51 |
| pupnik | what rom version btw? | 17:52 |
| LinuxCode | iceing | 17:52 |
| LinuxCode | tried 1.2 | 17:52 |
| LinuxCode | 1.3 | 17:52 |
| LinuxCode | which one did you try ? | 17:52 |
| pupnik | ok those should work | 17:52 |
| pupnik | both | 17:52 |
| pupnik | i'll test here again | 17:52 |
| LinuxCode | from the gui right ? | 17:52 |
| pupnik | yes | 17:52 |
| LinuxCode | k | 17:52 |
| LinuxCode | just checking | 17:52 |
| LinuxCode | hehe | 17:52 |
| LinuxCode | maybe name limit ? | 17:53 |
| LinuxCode | mine are named quite long | 17:53 |
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| pupnik | oh give them short names without strange characters | 17:54 |
| pupnik | do you see the 'insert floppy' image? | 17:55 |
| LinuxCode | yep | 17:57 |
| LinuxCode | hmmm | 17:57 |
| pupnik | works 4 me | 17:57 |
| LinuxCode | is the workbench image supposed to show ? | 17:58 |
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| pupnik | yes | 17:58 |
| LinuxCode | hmmm | 17:59 |
| LinuxCode | ive got my amiga stuff on the mmc2 | 17:59 |
| pupnik | how many bytes is your bios image? | 17:59 |
| pupnik | should be 524288 | 18:00 |
| LinuxCode | sec | 18:00 |
| LinuxCode | my rom files are 256kb | 18:00 |
| LinuxCode | but they work | 18:00 |
| LinuxCode | because I ran them on this machine | 18:00 |
| pupnik | ok some emus can't use those packed roms | 18:00 |
| LinuxCode | hmm | 18:01 |
| LinuxCode | lets try kickstart 2.0 then | 18:01 |
| LinuxCode | hmmm | 18:02 |
| LinuxCode | hallelujah | 18:03 |
| LinuxCode | found some orig grabs | 18:03 |
| LinuxCode | sec | 18:03 |
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| LinuxCode | does the reset button work ? | 18:05 |
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| pupnik | not really since you can't get back to the launch menu | 18:06 |
| LinuxCode | last try | 18:06 |
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| LinuxCode | nope | 18:07 |
| LinuxCode | stays black | 18:07 |
| LinuxCode | terminal says | 18:08 |
| LinuxCode | Using Normal image buffer | 18:08 |
| t_s_o | heh, i take it people are playing around with a amiga emulator? | 18:08 |
| LinuxCode | yes sir | 18:08 |
| LinuxCode | pupnik, whats your settings | 18:08 |
| LinuxCode | before I give up | 18:08 |
| t_s_o | hmm, now i got the silly idea of embedding a N800 inside the case of a A500 :P | 18:09 |
| LinuxCode | 68010 are the size of the n810 sizeways | 18:09 |
| LinuxCode | lol | 18:09 |
| LinuxCode | 5 of them = size of N810 in total | 18:09 |
| pupnik | default settings | 18:09 |
| LinuxCode | k renaming rom again | 18:09 |
| pupnik | do you see the kick rom loader image? | 18:09 |
| LinuxCode | no workbench if thats what ya mean | 18:10 |
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| pupnik | ok yes | 18:10 |
| pupnik | the hand holding the blue floppy | 18:10 |
| LinuxCode | thats the workbench icon yes | 18:11 |
| LinuxCode | hehe | 18:11 |
| dskippy | I have a .deb package I've created for my project. It requires python2.5 and python2.5-gstreamer. These dependancies are not being installed automatically when I install my debian file. In fact, when I try to apt-get install the two of them I get errors and it suggests "apt-get -f install". Doing that works. Doesn't anyone know how I can make my debian file work without requiring the user to run the apt-get -f install | 18:12 |
| LinuxCode | k | 18:12 |
| LinuxCode | lets see | 18:12 |
| LinuxCode | k I tell ya what I do | 18:13 |
| LinuxCode | start uae..add rom into rom field | 18:13 |
| LinuxCode | cpu load goes up | 18:13 |
| pupnik | what is size of the rom file? | 18:13 |
| LinuxCode | terminal shows 1866 CPU functions | 18:13 |
| LinuxCode | 512kb | 18:13 |
| LinuxCode | Building cpu function tabel | 18:14 |
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| LinuxCode | using 16bit visual.... | 18:14 |
| LinuxCode | using normal image buffer | 18:14 |
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| Stskeepz | dskippy: something tells me you dont have the repositories enabled that contains python2.5? | 18:15 |
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| konttori | dskippy: did you install from a local deb?? | 18:16 |
| konttori | Application manager doesn't support installing dependencies from locally stored debs | 18:16 |
| konttori | Although, if you create a repository on your mmc, then you can install also dependencies | 18:17 |
| LinuxCode | pupnik, hmm | 18:20 |
| LinuxCode | nada | 18:20 |
| LinuxCode | what did you build this on ? | 18:20 |
| LinuxCode | im using default nokia flash | 18:20 |
| LinuxCode | what dependencies does this have ? | 18:20 |
| LinuxCode | sdl ? | 18:21 |
| pupnik | hm | 18:22 |
| LinuxCode | odd isnt it | 18:23 |
| LinuxCode | ;-| | 18:23 |
| * LinuxCode cries | 18:23 | |
| pupnik | well it sucks anyway... i do like the frontend though | 18:23 |
| LinuxCode | haha | 18:23 |
| LinuxCode | ;-[ | 18:23 |
| pupnik | def needs tweaking on the memory tab | 18:23 |
| LinuxCode | I dont want it to suck | 18:23 |
| LinuxCode | getting amiga games to play on the N810 would be the sex | 18:24 |
| pupnik | well the source is on my page | 18:24 |
| pupnik | but don't spend too much time with this | 18:24 |
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| LinuxCode | pupnik, out of curiosity | 18:25 |
| LinuxCode | run it and ctrl-c it | 18:25 |
| pupnik | that gets you to a debugger | 18:26 |
| LinuxCode | then quit the app | 18:26 |
| LinuxCode | glib warning | 18:26 |
| pupnik | yeah - what do those mean? | 18:26 |
| LinuxCode | gtk_is_notebook | 18:26 |
| LinuxCode | get that ? | 18:26 |
| pupnik | k i;'ll test | 18:26 |
| pupnik | cool | 18:27 |
| LinuxCode | probably because uae disappeared | 18:27 |
| pupnik | the errors keep on coming | 18:27 |
| LinuxCode | yeh | 18:27 |
| pupnik | i think i need to free-up something on program close | 18:27 |
| LinuxCode | dunno if that helps | 18:27 |
| pupnik | thanks | 18:27 |
| LinuxCode | hehe | 18:27 |
| LinuxCode | np | 18:27 |
| pupnik | but i'm dropping it | 18:28 |
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| * pupnik plays the 'Heidi' theme song | 18:29 | |
| LinuxCode | I will pay Nokia 1 million for a amiga emu | 18:33 |
| LinuxCode | in pizza crumbs | 18:33 |
| lcuk_2 | 1 million kenyan dollars | 18:36 |
| LinuxCode | lcuk_2, hehe | 18:36 |
| LinuxCode | is that worth anything | 18:37 |
| lcuk_2 | well, if you have no toilet paper it might be | 18:37 |
| lcuk_2 | but otherwise im not so sure | 18:37 |
| LinuxCode | lol | 18:37 |
| LinuxCode | I just pay them in zimbabwe money | 18:37 |
| LinuxCode | it will be worth 1 million one day | 18:38 |
| LinuxCode | by the time I pay them it will be worth a roll of toilet paper | 18:38 |
| LinuxCode | pitty a uae would have been the icing on the cake | 18:38 |
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| pupnik | hhahah | 18:39 |
| LinuxCode | that would have pawned anything | 18:39 |
| pupnik | not to be mean but there's work to be done man | 18:39 |
| LinuxCode | yeh I know | 18:39 |
| LinuxCode | just saying ;-D | 18:39 |
| LinuxCode | giving encouragement | 18:39 |
| pupnik | meanwhile everyone needs to dance with heidi. http://youtube.com/watch?v=n4lW19A4Hlk | 18:39 |
| * LinuxCode politely declines | 18:40 | |
| pupnik | hehehe | 18:40 |
| pupnik | heidi, heidi, komm nach haus, find dein glück. komm doch wieder zurueck! | 18:40 |
| pupnik | total kitsch | 18:40 |
| pupnik | but biene maja may be even better | 18:40 |
| LinuxCode | I wouldnt decline a girl called heidi | 18:40 |
| LinuxCode | if she wants to find her glueck with me | 18:41 |
| LinuxCode | doing rude acts | 18:41 |
| LinuxCode | you get the drift | 18:41 |
| LinuxCode | lol | 18:41 |
| LinuxCode | ;-p | 18:41 |
| LinuxCode | the drift* | 18:41 |
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| LinuxCode | wtf | 18:41 |
| LinuxCode | I corrected somethign I already wrote | 18:41 |
| LinuxCode | hahaha | 18:41 |
| * LinuxCode knocks head on desk | 18:42 | |
| pupnik | hahaha | 18:42 |
| LinuxCode | must be after effects from last week | 18:42 |
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| pupnik | http://www.talk2myshirt.com/blog/archives/category/accessories/keyboard Fabric Keyboards | 19:24 |
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| Navi | pupnik, lol | 19:25 |
| pupnik | hi navi | 19:25 |
| Navi | Hullo | 19:26 |
| pupnik | a bit pricy though | 19:26 |
| pupnik | Snoop Dog in lederhosen: http://buzzworthy.mtv.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/08/snoop.jpg | 19:27 |
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| pupnik | I'd like to see maemo running on the pandora someday | 19:38 |
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| magicrobotmonkey | how to i make the arrows scroll instead of jump to links in tne browser in os2008' | 19:48 |
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| aquatix | anyone tried gpasman? [password manager] | 19:58 |
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| zoran | sky is blue | 20:05 |
| zoran | s/blue/red/ | 20:05 |
| infobot | zoran meant: sky is red | 20:05 |
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| zoran | folks, I need help for something not related to maemo, but infobot | 20:06 |
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| lcuk_2 | magicrobotmonkey, i have something installed which makes the cursor keys do page up down but i cant find it now | 20:06 |
| lcuk_2 | http://www.russellbeattie.com/blog/paging-in-n800n810s-mozilla-browser | 20:10 |
| lcuk_2 | this appears to do it, but i managed to find a .deb which made the changes required and haven't looked back since | 20:11 |
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| vivijim | hi | 20:25 |
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| ccooke | ... In the default os2008 chat app, is it normal for contacts not to be synced from - say - AIM, Yahoo etc? | 20:26 |
| pupnik | grbdbl no gcda files coming out | 20:28 |
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| * pupnik gets out the "Acme KotCzarny magnet" | 20:34 | |
| pupnik | you wierdos who use the tablet for what it was intended.... | 20:35 |
| LinuxCode | ccooke, ?!? | 20:35 |
| LinuxCode | using what ?!?! | 20:35 |
| ccooke | LinuxCode: the default chat app | 20:35 |
| LinuxCode | I dont use that | 20:35 |
| LinuxCode | my thing doesnt even support aim | 20:36 |
| LinuxCode | yaho | 20:36 |
| ccooke | well, pidgin looked to be *terribly* slow | 20:36 |
| LinuxCode | or are we talking about pidgin here ? | 20:36 |
| ccooke | LinuxCode: it does, if you install the packages for it | 20:36 |
| LinuxCode | guess not | 20:36 |
| ccooke | pidgin is unusable | 20:36 |
| LinuxCode | ccooke, and the package was ? | 20:36 |
| ccooke | account-plugin-haze | 20:38 |
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| LinuxCode | ohh noes | 20:41 |
| LinuxCode | my pipe symbol is gone | 20:41 |
| LinuxCode | damn | 20:41 |
| LinuxCode | anybody recall what a pipe was called | 20:42 |
| LinuxCode | vtab ? | 20:42 |
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| LinuxCode | vt ? | 20:42 |
| LinuxCode | hmm | 20:43 |
| LinuxCode | vbar | 20:44 |
| LinuxCode | bar it is! | 20:44 |
| LinuxCode | no such package | 20:46 |
| LinuxCode | where did you get it from ? | 20:46 |
| LinuxCode | google doesnt know about it either | 20:47 |
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| ccooke | LinuxCode: give me a moment and I'll find out... | 20:49 |
| LinuxCode | cool ta | 20:50 |
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| ccooke | LinuxCode: It's from one of the more standard repos on gronmayer | 20:53 |
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| LinuxCode | ccooke, found it mate | 20:55 |
| LinuxCode | does this require blue pill mode ? | 20:56 |
| LinuxCode | nmi find out hehe | 20:56 |
| LinuxCode | mental laziness creeping in | 20:57 |
| LinuxCode | nooooo | 21:00 |
| LinuxCode | still no irc! | 21:00 |
| LinuxCode | lol | 21:00 |
| LinuxCode | everything else but that | 21:00 |
| ccooke | looks like I should be using rtcom instead, anyway | 21:01 |
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| LinuxCode | hmmm | 21:03 |
| LinuxCode | adding account doesnt work | 21:03 |
| LinuxCode | says no accounts set up | 21:03 |
| ccooke | restart, and you'll see a non-working account there :-) | 21:03 |
| LinuxCode | non-working ? | 21:04 |
| LinuxCode | hehe | 21:04 |
| LinuxCode | nada | 21:08 |
| LinuxCode | does this have a dependency ?!?! | 21:08 |
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| pupnik | woot -fprofile-generate kicked ass | 21:10 |
| pupnik | maybe 10-20% speed increase | 21:10 |
| ccooke | LinuxCode: Take a look at rtcom-beta-os2008 | 21:11 |
| ccooke | LinuxCode: which I'm looking at now | 21:11 |
| GNUton | Hi | 21:11 |
| ccooke | LinuxCode: Needs red pill mode, IIRC | 21:12 |
| LinuxCode | i think i will stick to amsn + xchat | 21:15 |
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| LinuxCode | but good to see something happening | 21:18 |
| LinuxCode | was a bit disappointing | 21:18 |
| LinuxCode | most peopleuse all sorts of IM | 21:18 |
| fysa | http://www.engadget.com/2008/03/08/asus-ms71-couldnt-choose-between-mouse-and-flash-drive/ | 21:18 |
| fysa | this could be a perfect carry-with mouse for the N800. ;) | 21:18 |
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| LinuxCode | brb reboot | 21:25 |
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| pupnik | lets make led blink when accessing amiga floppy :P | 21:25 |
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| ccooke | LinuxCode: Seems to be working, by the way | 21:57 |
| LinuxCode | with rfcom beta ? | 21:57 |
| ccooke | LinuxCode: my old AIM account imported correctly just now | 21:57 |
| ccooke | yes | 21:57 |
| LinuxCode | cool | 21:57 |
| ccooke | had to install via the command line... and dist-upgrade afterwards | 21:57 |
| LinuxCode | if it had irc id be sold | 21:57 |
| ccooke | it does | 21:57 |
| LinuxCode | it does ? | 21:57 |
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| LinuxCode | its not in the list | 21:58 |
| ccooke | full list I see is: AIM, Ekiga(SIP), FreeWorldDialup (SIP), Google Talk, ICQ, IRC, Jabber, Link-local XMPP, MSN, SIP, sipphone.com and Yahoo. | 21:58 |
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| LinuxCode | i dont see that | 21:59 |
| LinuxCode | in account setup ? | 21:59 |
| ccooke | yes | 21:59 |
| ccooke | did you install rfcom-beta? | 21:59 |
| LinuxCode | no | 21:59 |
| ccooke | then you wouldn't be expecting to see that list, would you? :-) | 22:00 |
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| LinuxCode | well that acoount haze package added options | 22:00 |
| ccooke | yes, but it's only part of the full update | 22:00 |
| LinuxCode | so id assume it would add that too | 22:00 |
| LinuxCode | ahhh | 22:00 |
| LinuxCode | k | 22:00 |
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| admin_ | Hey, isit possible to install OS2008 onto the n770 at this time? | 22:04 |
| pupnik | no | 22:05 |
| pupnik | it is possible to install OS2008HE | 22:06 |
| LinuxCode | fuck it | 22:06 |
| * LinuxCode installs rtcom | 22:07 | |
| admin_ | is it worth it pupnik ? | 22:07 |
| LinuxCode | now i can sync gpe | 22:07 |
| LinuxCode | its not such a big deal anymore | 22:07 |
| pupnik | never tried it admin_ | 22:08 |
| admin_ | ah | 22:08 |
| pupnik | you using os2007he? | 22:08 |
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| admin_ | no, just plain '06 | 22:09 |
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| pupnik | same here | 22:14 |
| pupnik | but integrating apps in to the 06 menu is kind of a pain | 22:14 |
| LinuxCode | hey pupnik .. that issue might be arch related | 22:14 |
| pupnik | ? | 22:14 |
| LinuxCode | I have a e-uae compiled for amd64..dont work on intel | 22:14 |
| LinuxCode | compiled my own ..works | 22:14 |
| LinuxCode | it also stays black and dies...the amd64 | 22:15 |
| LinuxCode | but the menu shows | 22:15 |
| pupnik | you are using n800 LinuxCode ? | 22:15 |
| LinuxCode | i have to save and then use mine to play | 22:15 |
| LinuxCode | no n810 | 22:15 |
| pupnik | ok same here | 22:15 |
| LinuxCode | hmm k | 22:15 |
| LinuxCode | ok rtcom installed | 22:16 |
| LinuxCode | and indeed it shows irc | 22:16 |
| LinuxCode | hehe | 22:16 |
| LinuxCode | wicked | 22:16 |
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| LinuxCode | AHa | 22:22 |
| LinuxCode | Hahah | 22:22 |
| ccooke | any good? | 22:22 |
| LinuxCode | On the n810 now | 22:23 |
| LinuxCode | Yeh | 22:23 |
| LinuxCode | Heheh | 22:23 |
| LinuxCode | Wish the nicks were on the right though | 22:23 |
| LinuxCode | /Whois linuxcode | 22:25 |
| LinuxCode | Hmm | 22:25 |
| LinuxCode | Heheh | 22:25 |
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| admin_ | how do I flash a FIASCO image, I have that flasher program | 22:26 |
| LinuxCode | Hey can somebody say something in 10 seconds ? | 22:27 |
| pupnik | ? | 22:27 |
| LinuxCode | Thx | 22:27 |
| pupnik | heh | 22:28 |
| LinuxCode | It makes a sound | 22:28 |
| LinuxCode | But does not show the led | 22:28 |
| LinuxCode | Hmmm | 22:28 |
| LinuxCode | Pitty | 22:28 |
| LinuxCode | 8) | 22:28 |
| LinuxCode | :) ;) 8) :X | 22:28 |
| admin_ | oh, got it | 22:28 |
| LinuxCode | Lol | 22:28 |
| LinuxCode | Got icons though | 22:28 |
| * admin_ watches 2008HE wreck his n770 :D | 22:28 | |
| keesj | admin_: :) | 22:29 |
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| admin_ | dang, seems so slow, sending rootfd image @ 643 kB/s | 22:29 |
| admin_ | *rootfs | 22:29 |
| keesj | I removed he2008, | 22:30 |
| keesj | swichted back to 2007 and still have problems with the wifi | 22:30 |
| admin_ | heh | 22:30 |
| admin_ | yeah, I hve wifi probs, can't connect to some networks :/ | 22:30 |
| keesj | the good new is that I will be running mamona perhaps as soon as next week | 22:31 |
| admin_ | OMG, it's done :D | 22:31 |
| admin_ | ooo the kernel bar is blue | 22:31 |
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| LinuxCode | Hmmm | 22:33 |
| LinuxCode | Can only use one account though | 22:33 |
| admin_ | oo it's pretty :D | 22:33 |
| admin_ | well, I'm still doing setup | 22:33 |
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| admin_ | hmm | 22:37 |
| admin_ | it's very nice, but kinda slow :P | 22:37 |
| * admin_ tries 2007HE | 22:38 | |
| jott | admin_: i think you have to enable swap to make 2008he usable | 22:38 |
| admin_ | think that's why it's a bit slow? | 22:39 |
| jott | yeah.. the ones using it told so | 22:39 |
| admin_ | hmm ok | 22:39 |
| KotCzarny | re | 22:40 |
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| admin_ | omg, hey KotCzarny | 22:41 |
| KotCzarny | hi | 22:41 |
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| Tama^2 | Hello | 22:41 |
| molkko | can I some see whats the N800 battery charging status like in off-the-shelf ubuntu command acpi tells the status | 22:43 |
| KotCzarny | yes | 22:43 |
| molkko | some=somehow | 22:43 |
| KotCzarny | but you will have to use my util | 22:43 |
| KotCzarny | :) | 22:43 |
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| molkko | and its expensive I guess | 22:44 |
| KotCzarny | well | 22:44 |
| KotCzarny | that depends | 22:44 |
| KotCzarny | how much do you have? | 22:45 |
| molkko | I can tell the battery level to you in return | 22:45 |
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| KotCzarny | sounds good | 22:46 |
| KotCzarny | mrrau.dyndns.org:23280/n800/kcbatt/kcbatt | 22:48 |
| KotCzarny | what it really shows is battery voltage | 22:48 |
| KotCzarny | so percentage is estimated | 22:49 |
| KotCzarny | battery empty starts around 350 | 22:49 |
| KotCzarny | battery full is around 550 | 22:49 |
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| KotCzarny | ah, and it has to be updated to show charging status | 22:52 |
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| molkko | updated? I just run that suspicious executable and output is sensible: retu-adc #8:559 batt: 95% ====== | 22:54 |
| molkko | battery is more than full | 22:55 |
| KotCzarny | it's just my guessing | 22:55 |
| KotCzarny | as i said retu-adc show battery voltage | 22:55 |
| KotCzarny | not 'remaining charge' | 22:55 |
| KotCzarny | but it can be estimated from voltage | 22:55 |
| KotCzarny | while charging it can to up to ~600-620 | 22:56 |
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| spirytusick | helo :) | 23:00 |
| spirytusick | hello to be exact :) | 23:01 |
| admin_ | hey guys, how do I pair up my n770 through bluetooth, but the other thing has no PIN | 23:01 |
| spirytusick | yo Kot | 23:01 |
| KotCzarny | ehlo | 23:01 |
| spirytusick | KotCzarny: Do you sleep at all ;-) | 23:01 |
| KotCzarny | an hour or two | 23:02 |
| spirytusick | admin_: the other side usually has a default pin, try 0000 or 1111 or 1234 | 23:02 |
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| spirytusick | KotCzarny: Have you made any progress with uae ? | 23:03 |
| KotCzarny | yes, i guess | 23:03 |
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| KotCzarny | i have hacked dpad/keys support | 23:03 |
| KotCzarny | and pupnik made it run 10-20% faster | 23:03 |
| KotCzarny | :) | 23:03 |
| spirytusick | wow :) | 23:03 |
| spirytusick | KotCzarny: is it on your home serv ? | 23:03 |
| KotCzarny | yes | 23:03 |
| spirytusick | KotCzarny: I can see some activity :) | 23:03 |
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| KotCzarny | read new readme :) | 23:03 |
| spirytusick | ok | 23:04 |
| spirytusick | do I need all archives ? data, lib and uae4all ? | 23:04 |
| KotCzarny | only exec | 23:04 |
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| KotCzarny | assuming you have esddsp and data dir already | 23:05 |
| jott | KotCzarny: any solution for the mouse? just started to look into it.. | 23:05 |
| KotCzarny | jott: awfull. | 23:05 |
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| KotCzarny | ami supports max movements per update of +/-127 | 23:05 |
| spirytusick | yep i do have those already | 23:05 |
| KotCzarny | and to get more one need to do mousehack | 23:06 |
| KotCzarny | and it's ugly. | 23:06 |
| jott | with mousehack the mouse jumps around :& | 23:06 |
| spirytusick | KotCzarny: I suppose if the mouse cannot be hacked easily then perhaps you can use one of the top keys to switch dpad modes between joystick and mouse emulation ? | 23:06 |
| spirytusick | so the curson can be moved with dpad | 23:06 |
| spirytusick | cursor | 23:06 |
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| jott | yuck.. dpad is so unusable for anything but scrolling :P | 23:07 |
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| spirytusick | jott: yep but for the time being it might suffice, I suppose without someone from amiga community rewriting mousehack for maemo specificaly | 23:07 |
| spirytusick | it's gonna be hard to emulate the mouse correctly... | 23:07 |
| jott | maemo is nothing special | 23:08 |
| KotCzarny | i have started adding some kind of mouse queue | 23:08 |
| KotCzarny | btw. mousehack works | 23:08 |
| KotCzarny | but the problem is that it first clicks. then moves | 23:08 |
| spirytusick | KotCzarny: Maybe solution from straciatella might be usefull ? | 23:08 |
| KotCzarny | hmm? | 23:09 |
| spirytusick | KotCzarny: btw, which bin is the best one ? uae4all-g or just uae4all ? | 23:09 |
| jott | hmm it does not seem to work here :/ | 23:09 |
| KotCzarny | -g is a version made for pupnik | 23:09 |
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| KotCzarny | get new uae4all.gz | 23:09 |
| spirytusick | ok | 23:09 |
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| spirytusick | thanks | 23:09 |
| LinuxCode | wrks | 23:09 |
| LinuxCode | ;-] | 23:09 |
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| pupnik | this is a very exciting thing | 23:11 |
| spirytusick | pupnik: hello :) | 23:11 |
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| pupnik | hi! | 23:11 |
| LinuxCode | KotCzarny, omg..what did i miss ? | 23:12 |
| spirytusick | pupnik: uae :) Thanks :) | 23:12 |
| pupnik | i'm going to poke around with sound tonight | 23:12 |
| pupnik | KotCzarny did the work | 23:12 |
| KotCzarny | linuxcode: everything? | 23:12 |
| KotCzarny | :) | 23:12 |
| * spirytusick grins | 23:12 | |
| LinuxCode | uae..where when why what ? | 23:12 |
| spirytusick | pupnik: do you think we will be able to ditch esddsp ? | 23:12 |
| pupnik | there's not much between this and real solid | 23:12 |
| pupnik | uh i suppose | 23:13 |
| admin_ | anyone have a link to good list of OS2007 repos? | 23:13 |
| pupnik | http://pastebin.ca/934412 profile for uae4all in-game (animations, scrolling) | 23:13 |
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| spirytusick | admin_: see the topic :) | 23:13 |
| KotCzarny | brb | 23:13 |
| LinuxCode | so uae works now ? | 23:14 |
| admin_ | :D | 23:14 |
| pupnik | we may be better off running stereo mode, but i need a way to get more accurate fps data on the backend | 23:14 |
| spirytusick | LinuxCode: it works at nearly or exactly the full speeds with sound (with a little hickup for the time being) | 23:14 |
| jott | for me the mouse still does not work :~( | 23:15 |
| KotCzarny | yeah, mouse needs work | 23:15 |
| LinuxCode | whats the link ? | 23:15 |
| LinuxCode | I just rejoined and missed all the excitement | 23:15 |
| jott | KotCzarny: do you know how this mousehack_helper is supposed to work? | 23:15 |
| LinuxCode | ;-[ | 23:15 |
| KotCzarny | yes | 23:15 |
| KotCzarny | there are 3 versions of it in the code | 23:16 |
| jott | it does not seem to be called | 23:16 |
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| KotCzarny | each has it's quirks | 23:16 |
| KotCzarny | i think 'follow mouse' is the closest | 23:16 |
| KotCzarny | but it needs events queue | 23:16 |
| KotCzarny | to put click at the end of sub movements | 23:16 |
| KotCzarny | ie. if moving 400px right | 23:17 |
| jott | it just gives quite arbitrary values :/ | 23:17 |
| KotCzarny | it moves it in 3 steps | 23:17 |
| KotCzarny | jott: sorry, no go | 23:17 |
| KotCzarny | unless you add hack from winuae | 23:17 |
| KotCzarny | to do that | 23:17 |
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| jott | winuae does handle absolute mouse movement? | 23:18 |
| KotCzarny | i have seen in stock uae/e-uae some kick.rom functions added | 23:18 |
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| KotCzarny | that will take arbitrary positions | 23:18 |
| KotCzarny | not only +/-127 max | 23:18 |
| jott | hmm.. | 23:18 |
| KotCzarny | i may be wrong, source is available :> | 23:19 |
| jott | yeah.. checking | 23:19 |
| KotCzarny | brb. | 23:19 |
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| spirytusick | Guys: Good Job, Arte runs so much smoother right now!!! Thanks | 23:24 |
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| spirytusick | ok, will see you guys later, I am going to test some old adf images... | 23:26 |
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| LinuxCode | "test" | 23:26 |
| LinuxCode | rofl | 23:26 |
| LinuxCode | more like game | 23:26 |
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| LinuxCode | im off ..nn all | 23:32 |
| pupnik | cu LinuxCode | 23:32 |
| LinuxCode | ;-] | 23:32 |
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| pupnik | KotCzarny: also in menu file browser there needs to be way to abort (esc) out of it | 23:36 |
| KotCzarny | yeah, i have also noticed that | 23:36 |
| KotCzarny | probably on full keyboard there's a key for that | 23:36 |
| KotCzarny | :) | 23:36 |
| pupnik | how about esc to exit and +/- to pgup/pgdown? | 23:37 |
| KotCzarny | nice idea | 23:37 |
| pupnik | or maybe left/right would be easier | 23:37 |
| pupnik | oh left/right already does that! | 23:37 |
| KotCzarny | yeah, links like browsing | 23:37 |
| pupnik | lol | 23:37 |
| KotCzarny | :) | 23:37 |
| pupnik | i was clicking down like 100 times | 23:37 |
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| KotCzarny | autorepeat would be nice too | 23:38 |
| KotCzarny | :) | 23:38 |
| KotCzarny | even easier is specifying adf on cmd line | 23:41 |
| KotCzarny | ;) | 23:41 |
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| Dazgard | hi there | 23:42 |
| Dazgard | im back :) | 23:42 |
| Dazgard | johnx: i did try to install the modules, but i got unresolved symols | 23:43 |
| Dazgard | here is the exact error | 23:43 |
| Dazgard | cannot insert 'iptable_nat.ko': Unknown symbol in module (-1): No such file or directory | 23:43 |
| pH5 | Dazgard: dmesg will show you which symbols are unresolved, maybe that will give a hint what is missing. | 23:45 |
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| pH5 | nf_nat and nf_conntrack modules maybe. | 23:46 |
| Dazgard | yep | 23:46 |
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| pH5 | and ip_tables | 23:46 |
| Dazgard | ok, the error seems to be related to nf_conntrack_untracked | 23:46 |
| Dazgard | that's cool | 23:47 |
| jott | get depmod and use modprobe, that makes things easier ;) | 23:48 |
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| Dazgard | jott: i'll put every required command in a shel script :) | 23:53 |
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| admin_ | ugh, wtf is with this, I put 2006 back on there, if I try to install a package, it'll DL it, then say can't instal ~_~ | 23:54 |
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| Dazgard | jott: or perhaps you're right :'( | 23:55 |
| Dazgard | how can i add file to /mnt/initfs/lib/modules/2.6.21-omap1/, teh directory is RO | 23:58 |
| Dazgard | the | 23:58 |
| KotCzarny | you can't | 23:58 |
| KotCzarny | but you can use /lib/modules/2.6.21-omap1/ | 23:58 |
| KotCzarny | and it will work | 23:58 |
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| KotCzarny | modprobe etc. | 23:58 |
| KotCzarny | ok. good night people | 23:58 |
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