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| DeLe0n | alterego: yep, i have none internet tablet, but still i don't complain hahaha, I'm just anxious to get my first hahaha | 00:00 |
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| alterego | I paid a lot for my first tablet. And I still love my N800 | 00:00 |
| alterego | Having an N810 and being accepted is a bonus. Just makes it more worth while to continue developing for the platform. Though, I develop for more selfish reasons. I like to hack in Ruby for my own nefarious ends :) | 00:01 |
| kbsingh | ewww. ruby | 00:01 |
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| alterego | kbsingh, you have a problem with Ruby? That's too bad. | 00:02 |
| Cord | . o O ( we will have a nice zoo of programming-languages on the thingie ) | 00:02 |
| kbsingh | ewwwww ruby | 00:03 |
| alterego | There's a nice zoo of program languages for most computers :P | 00:03 |
| alterego | kbsingh, shut up. | 00:03 |
| kbsingh | see thats what the problem with ruby and the people who work with it is. they cant really see beyond it. | 00:03 |
| Cord | alterego: ack. but on my linux-desktop is enough space to store them. | 00:04 |
| skibur | gnome ftp client for the Tablet? | 00:04 |
| alterego | I mean really .. One completely pointless statement and then you repeat yourself. | 00:04 |
| kbsingh | personally, erlang ftw, followed by haskell | 00:04 |
| alterego | kbsingh, how can you say the problem with a programming language are people that use it? | 00:04 |
| Cord | . o O ( now it gets ugly ;-) | 00:04 |
| kbsingh | alterego: I've found, in the last few months - working with some fairly obsessive ruby types - its the easiest way to get at them :D | 00:04 |
| alterego | I was thinking of doing Haskell-maemo .. | 00:04 |
| lardman|tv | night all | 00:05 |
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| alterego | kbsingh, well thanks for judging me because of some other people you've met. | 00:05 |
| alterego | I think you're a dick because I met a dick last night. | 00:05 |
| kbsingh | alterego: you're welcome. | 00:05 |
| deejoe | ruby? are we talking about this rant? http://zedshaw.com/rants/rails_is_a_ghetto.html | 00:05 |
| kbsingh | also, i didnt say it was about you - i did a slightly wider generalisation | 00:05 |
| kbsingh | unless everyone else has stopped using it :D | 00:06 |
| alterego | I think you're fat because I walked past burger king yesterday whilst on my way to the library. and I think you wear glasses because there was a girl in the library with glasses. | 00:06 |
| kbsingh | deejoe: naw, i am just pulling alterego's leg. and he's biting | 00:06 |
| kbsingh | alterego: actually you are right. i am fat. | 00:06 |
| alterego | If by biting you mean slightly amused .. I guess. | 00:06 |
| alterego | That's a shame. | 00:06 |
| kbsingh | not really | 00:06 |
| alterego | I knew I'd hit the nail on the head with one of those stereotypes. | 00:06 |
| kbsingh | wouldnt want to play rugby if i wasent in the shape i am | 00:06 |
| alterego | Sorry "generalisations" :) | 00:07 |
| kbsingh | yes, the ruby sorts are known to do it | 00:07 |
| alterego | I used to play rugby and I'm not too fat. | 00:07 |
| kbsingh | i wont hold it against you | 00:07 |
| alterego | 12 stone. | 00:07 |
| kbsingh | 15 here | 00:07 |
| kbsingh | left flank | 00:07 |
| alterego | I'm pretty average. | 00:07 |
| alterego | I just ran. | 00:07 |
| alterego | Ran and grabbed people. | 00:07 |
| celesteh | how much is a stone? | 00:08 |
| celesteh | it's not on my metric to american converter | 00:08 |
| kbsingh | 6.3 kg's i think | 00:08 |
| alterego | 76.2 Kg | 00:08 |
| kbsingh | alterego: eh ? 'a stone' ? | 00:08 |
| alterego | That's 12 stone in kilograms ;) | 00:08 |
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| alterego | I thought I'd save him doing the arithmetic. | 00:09 |
| celesteh | ah, i was thinking you must be the jolly green giant is a stone was 76 kg | 00:09 |
| alterego | celesteh, that's just a toe. | 00:09 |
| inz | !gcalc 1 stone in kilograms | 00:09 |
| inz | 1 stone = 6.35029318 kilograms | 00:09 |
| kbsingh | well, isnt the kg actually lighter now than it was sometime back ? | 00:09 |
| kbsingh | i recall reading something about that a while back and being quite amused | 00:09 |
| alterego | That's a bit absurd. Sounds like an April fools joke to me. | 00:10 |
| celesteh | alas. | 00:10 |
| inz | kbsingh, the official kilogram "prototype" reduces in size, yes | 00:10 |
| kbsingh | alterego: no, the original kg was this bit of 'something' kept somewhere in France ? | 00:10 |
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| kbsingh | inz: there ya go | 00:10 |
| alterego | Could that be the real reason Americans are getting fatter? | 00:10 |
| celesteh | i don't understand why some countries aren't on metric | 00:10 |
| alterego | But wouldn't that mean we're getting fatter too .. | 00:10 |
| alterego | celesteh, it's habit. | 00:10 |
| kbsingh | not sure | 00:11 |
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| celesteh | it's annoying. | 00:11 |
| Aniruddha_NL | hi | 00:11 |
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| kbsingh | personally, i am quite taken in by newsof this bug that requires people to stay home and not goto work for a few days | 00:11 |
| alterego | I use metric for a lot of things. But weight and distance are usually stone's and miles in England. | 00:11 |
| celesteh | the reason americans are getting fatter is the new quarter-kilogram wopper | 00:11 |
| kbsingh | even after you are supposed to be all bettter | 00:11 |
| Aniruddha_NL | is it possible to configure the n800 for a single tap? | 00:11 |
| Aniruddha_NL | I find the double tap rather annnoying | 00:11 |
| alterego | celesteh, ah. So they're doing it to reduce the _actual_ size of the burgers? | 00:11 |
| alterego | Aniruddha_NL, what double tap? | 00:12 |
| * alterego doesn't remember ever having to double tap anything .. | 00:12 | |
| Aniruddha_NL | I need to double tap to launc programs | 00:12 |
| alterego | Except when the first tap didn't succeed. | 00:12 |
| celesteh | alterego: was a joke. There exists a quarter pound wopper. 1kg = 2.2 lbs | 00:12 |
| alterego | Aniruddha_NL, no you don't. | 00:12 |
| alterego | Not unless somehow you've managed to _enable_ a double tap feature ^_^ | 00:13 |
| Aniruddha_NL | lol | 00:13 |
| Aniruddha_NL | mys mistake | 00:13 |
| Aniruddha_NL | you right | 00:13 |
| Aniruddha_NL | somehow I ocnvinced myself I needed to double tab | 00:13 |
| alterego | Heh, | 00:13 |
| alterego | I take it you're a windows user :P | 00:13 |
| Aniruddha_NL | maybe it was necesarry ebfor the screen calibration ^^ | 00:13 |
| Cord | . o O ( is there a camera somewhere here? ) | 00:13 |
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| alterego | Having said that .. Many years ago when I was actually using Windows, before I found UNIX. I was using single tap on 2000 .. | 00:14 |
| Aniruddha_NL | lol | 00:14 |
| Cord | 2000? that isn't long ago. | 00:15 |
| Aniruddha_NL | WIndoes? | 00:15 |
| Aniruddha_NL | feels like a past life | 00:15 |
| alterego | I'd say 8 years is quite some time ago .. | 00:15 |
| Aniruddha_NL | I need soem regression therapy to get that back | 00:15 |
| doc|work | kbsingh: sorry, was afk. That'll mean editing the config every time. I was hoping for something a little less of a pain in the arse :/ | 00:15 |
| kbsingh | doc|work: i wasent being serious. | 00:15 |
| doc|work | good :) | 00:16 |
| Aniruddha_NL | can I install 2007 software in 2008? | 00:16 |
| alterego | doc|work, what are you trying to do? | 00:16 |
| kbsingh | but that is what i did to stop it from blu'ing al the time | 00:16 |
| alterego | You appear to be off my buffer :P | 00:16 |
| kbsingh | i use claws which does not seem to do that | 00:16 |
| Cord | . o O ( you are all so fucking young ) | 00:16 |
| Aniruddha_NL | I tried wenoth but failed | 00:16 |
| kbsingh | so its fine to just misconfig or unconfig the built in app | 00:16 |
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| doc|work | alterego: disable the default mail checking at times | 00:16 |
| Aniruddha_NL | and nw I am search for an irc client | 00:16 |
| kbsingh | Aniruddha_NL: irssi ftw | 00:16 |
| alterego | Hmmm. | 00:16 |
| alterego | Is that a gconf key? | 00:17 |
| doc|work | alterego: like when I have the n800 beside me, but still have my email client running, so the instant it checks there's a mail there but then it's gone from the server but still flashing | 00:17 |
| doc|work | s/email client/email client on my desktop | 00:17 |
| alterego | Maybe write a command to do it and stick it in a command option under the status bar applet. | 00:17 |
| doc|work | alterego: hmmm, where would I look to even start at that? :/ | 00:18 |
| alterego | gconf-tool | 00:18 |
| alterego | Adding a command to the cpu mem applet is easy. | 00:18 |
| doc|work | ok, thanks | 00:20 |
| Aniruddha_NL | kbsingh: thank | 00:22 |
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| |tbb| | is there a gconf editor gui available for os 2008 | 00:23 |
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| Khertan | Hi ! | 00:25 |
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| Aniruddha_NL | kbsingh: do you have a link? | 00:26 |
| Khertan | http://www.jan-jansen.be/index.php/2008/01/03/nokia_internet_tablet_n810_part_5 | 00:28 |
| Khertan | do u have see this ? | 00:28 |
| Cord | yup. | 00:28 |
| kbsingh | Aniruddha_NL: no :( | 00:28 |
| kbsingh | Aniruddha_NL: you might be better off with xchat actually | 00:28 |
| kbsingh | and that might even bein the stock extra repo | 00:28 |
| sk | peace y'all im outta here | 00:28 |
| Aniruddha_NL | itcu | 00:29 |
| Aniruddha_NL | it is for 2007 :( | 00:29 |
| jsmith | kbsingh: It's not for 2008, but there's a beta build I found that works great in 2008 | 00:31 |
| Aniruddha_NL | jsmith: irc? | 00:33 |
| jsmith | Aniruddha_NL: Yes, xchat | 00:34 |
| Aniruddha_NL | where did you find the beta? | 00:34 |
| Luria | tasd, dammit | 00:34 |
| Aniruddha_NL | on maemo apps? | 00:34 |
| Luria | err yasd | 00:34 |
| jsmith | Aniruddha_NL: http://zeus.rm-fr.net/~skyhusker/xchat-chinook-betas/ | 00:34 |
| Aniruddha_NL | kewl thanks | 00:35 |
| jsmith | No problem | 00:35 |
| Aniruddha_NL | does he also has an repo? | 00:35 |
| jsmith | No clue | 00:35 |
| jsmith | I'm new at all this, so I'm just struggling to learn myself ;-) | 00:35 |
| Aniruddha_NL | lol | 00:35 |
| Aniruddha_NL | me to | 00:35 |
| Aniruddha_NL | got my n800 today | 00:35 |
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| |tbb| | anyone knows why Latitude: sometime 16 numbers and sometimes 17 numbers long near the same place | 01:14 |
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| astro76 | |tbb|, example? | 01:23 |
| |tbb| | http://www.vorlagen.uni-erlangen.de/vorlagen/karten/tool-map.shtml | 01:25 |
| |tbb| | click on that card sometimes 16 sometimes 17 | 01:25 |
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| rm_you|n800 | hrm | 01:25 |
| |tbb| | how can i end a for loop | 01:26 |
| |tbb| | wb rm_you | 01:27 |
| rm_you|n800 | done | 01:27 |
| |tbb| | me? | 01:27 |
| rm_you|n800 | for foo in $bar do done | 01:27 |
| rm_you|n800 | newlines, of course | 01:28 |
| |tbb| | and how quit it before if an event succeded | 01:28 |
| rm_you|n800 | hrm | 01:30 |
| rm_you|n800 | it's either exit or break | 01:30 |
| rm_you|n800 | i'm afraid exit will exit your entire script | 01:30 |
| rm_you|n800 | try break | 01:30 |
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| rm_you|n800 | hrm... dentist went... well? only one very small cavity beginning, but they aren't going to worry about it for like 6 months for some reason <_< | 01:32 |
| rm_you|n800 | anyways, i generally remember stuff about BASH "on the fly" so to speak | 01:32 |
| rm_you|n800 | just kinda try stuff out with test scripts | 01:33 |
| rm_you|n800 | it's mostly common sense | 01:33 |
| skibur | is this right | 01:33 |
| skibur | msdosfs /dev/mmcblk0p1 | 01:33 |
| rm_you|n800 | lol dunno | 01:34 |
| astro76 | mkdosfs not msdosfs | 01:34 |
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| rm_you|n800 | ah i was wondering what you were trying to do :P | 01:38 |
| rm_you|n800 | i thought it was like mkfs.vfat/ | 01:38 |
| rm_you|n800 | minus the / >_> | 01:38 |
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| skibur | o ok | 01:43 |
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| skibur | mkdosfs mkfs.vfat /dev/mmcblk0p1 | 01:43 |
| astro76 | err no you want one of mkdosfs or mkfs.vfat | 01:43 |
| astro76 | probably mkfs.vfat | 01:43 |
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| skibur | ? | 01:51 |
| skibur | I did mkdosfs on partition 1, but I don't see vfat using sfdisk | 01:53 |
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| alterego | Your mom's vfat | 01:55 |
| Spacer | just curious, what kind of video have you guys got running smoothly on the n8x0? | 01:56 |
| Cptnodegard | limit for me seems to be 624x352 xvid straight off the net, played in mplayer but just barely | 01:57 |
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| Cptnodegard | barely as in no lag but not far from it | 01:58 |
| Spacer | i had the same result, but sometimes in 'dense' scenes its gets rather choppy, resizing anything to width == 400 seems to play very well | 01:58 |
| skibur | lol | 01:58 |
| skibur | funny | 01:58 |
| jga23 | anybody imported contacts into their IT before? what format do they need to be in? | 02:01 |
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| Khertan | jga23> need to be vcard | 02:01 |
| Khertan | version 2.1 accepted but not fully compliant with 3.0 | 02:02 |
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| jga23 | hmm, ok | 02:02 |
| jga23 | what is the addressbook.db? is that sqlite? | 02:03 |
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| rm_you|n800 | Spacer: I encode my videos to 400x320 in xvid at 1200 bitrate | 02:03 |
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| rm_you|n800 | and 30fps. and they look marvelous | 02:03 |
| rm_you|n800 | lardman|gone: >_> gone. :( | 02:04 |
| Screaming | wotcher guyz(n galz) | 02:04 |
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| Screaming | Anyone else getting "you need to download a new version"..blah from YouTube on it2008? | 02:06 |
| rm_you|n800 | damn... building and testing is impossible with all this firewall blegh my buildbox is behind <_< | 02:06 |
| rm_you|n800 | Screaming: no, but youtube functions very poorly in browser anyway | 02:07 |
| rm_you|n800 | install UKMP and use UKTube program that is included | 02:07 |
| rm_you|n800 | it downloads the videos and plays them in mplayer | 02:07 |
| rm_you|n800 | ack, and now a text autocomplete bar has appeared at the bottom of my screen with "abc" on the right side... and it won't go away | 02:08 |
| Screaming | Ta. Ill try that. used to work in 007 more or less | 02:08 |
| shack008n | Screaming: check that you have the flash comoponent enabled in the browser | 02:08 |
| Screaming | ohhhh thats NEW | 02:09 |
| rm_you|n800 | i'm using a bluetooth keyboard, i don't need an autocomplete bar <_< | 02:09 |
| Screaming | tnx timeless..new stuff!!!! | 02:09 |
| shack008n | what new stuff? | 02:10 |
| Screaming | spot on shack008n its disabled...now how to enable it???? | 02:12 |
| shack008n | you select it | 02:12 |
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| Screaming | np got it now.....;-) Tnx | 02:13 |
| rm_you|n800 | tell me if the videos lag very badly on your system as well >_> | 02:14 |
| * Screaming thinks why didn't I see that? | 02:14 | |
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| kbsingh | so, i got that 8 gig minisd card today | 02:20 |
| kbsingh | turns out to be a class4 card, and not the class2 i feared it would be | 02:20 |
| Screaming | Mwah! Wille Nelson "You were always on my mind" Perfect!!!! | 02:21 |
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| rm_you|n800 | woooo :P | 02:23 |
| Screaming | rm_you|n800, Dead right, gotta download that! | 02:24 |
| rm_you|n800 | i have it at home somewhere <_< | 02:25 |
| Screaming | Hee! Gronmayer even gives me Ttimeless's temp fix repo when I look for uukmp. Now thats cool | 02:27 |
| Screaming | s/Tt/T | 02:28 |
| ryoohki | what's the cheapest nokia n810 deal out there in the states? i found one for $408 free ship and no tax unless in nj | 02:29 |
| Robot101 | god damn I should've got my n810 in the states | 02:30 |
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| DeLe0n | Robot101: where did u get it? and how much? | 02:34 |
| Screaming | Oooh repository.maemo.org/extras actually gave me ukmp. Things are gettin better, geettin better all the time... | 02:36 |
| Screaming | s/eee/e bloody vkb. Anyone got a fix for its double clicks yet? | 02:38 |
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| Screaming | s/eee/ee | 02:38 |
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| Screaming | Yes! Another 8Mb wwell spent. | 02:48 |
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| Screaming | zzzzzz s/ww/w | 02:48 |
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| Robot101 | DeLe0n: about £300, from misco.co.uk | 02:57 |
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| DeLe0n | wooow almost 600 us dollars!! | 02:57 |
| jga23 | anybody know where I can find python-abook? | 02:58 |
| skibur | How can I verify if I'm booting off of mmc2? | 02:58 |
| Screaming | Mmmmm Willie Nelson. 'Nother question..Any ideas how to fix ukmp and kagu so it gives me pictures of the singer Joselito, not the footballer?? If possible the one from 1956, not the later imitation. | 02:58 |
| Screaming | skibur, You cant see the internal card if you are. | 02:59 |
| skibur | ? | 02:59 |
| skibur | hum... | 02:59 |
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| Screaming | df tells you iif its mmc or mtdblock4 | 03:01 |
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| skibur | ok | 03:02 |
| skibur | /dev/mmcblk02 / | 03:03 |
| skibur | Nice | 03:03 |
| skibur | lol | 03:03 |
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| Screaming | Anyone considering hooking a usb midi gizmo to an n800/810? I have timidity running . Would be really cool to tape my n800 behind my midi keyboard to get a real symphony orchestra coming out. | 03:07 |
| kbsingh | umm... | 03:08 |
| Screaming | Midi is a standard usb kernel module. May need compiling of course.. | 03:10 |
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| Screaming | Sounds like a big "No" to usb midi there. You mean I'm gonna be first to go busking with an N800? Again! | 03:16 |
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| Screaming | Willie Nelson eat your heart out. | 03:17 |
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| skibur | downloading kde358.tar.bz2 | 03:33 |
| skibur | for my N800 | 03:33 |
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| |tbb| | dowloading compiz-fusion for my n810 | 03:38 |
| rm_you|n800 | rofl wtf | 03:39 |
| rm_you|n800 | that would be sweet :P | 03:39 |
| |tbb| | how do i enable those protocols for built in IM with that internet comunications software update2 | 03:41 |
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| shack008n | rbb,the announce and the site have instructions | 03:43 |
| shack008n | *tbb | 03:43 |
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| rm_you|n800 | you will need to do the rtcomm beta install thing, which involves redpill if you havent done that already | 03:49 |
| |tbb| | i have done that but the wizard wont show me any more protocols like before. sip and jabber there | 03:50 |
| ph|ber | anyone have any themes for the 810? | 03:51 |
| |tbb| | oh what i have seen now there is a new entry under extras called rtcominstaller beta with xterm logo lol | 03:52 |
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| EruditeHermit | hi, where can I find a repository to install GPE on OS2008? | 03:54 |
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| |tbb| | thats odd, it says no space left on the device. df shows that only /dev/mtdblock4 is 98% used whatever this is | 03:57 |
| rm_you|n800 | after you install the package you have to click it AGAIN in the manu and it will do a second install | 04:08 |
| rm_you|n800 | THEN you will have new options | 04:08 |
| rm_you|n800 | bbl, driving somewhere | 04:08 |
| rm_you|n800 | :( | 04:09 |
| rm_you|n800 | tbb: you get rtcom working? | 04:09 |
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| rm_you|n800 | after you install the package you have to click it AGAIN in the manu and it will do a second install | 04:09 |
| rm_you|n800 | Just fyi | 04:09 |
| rm_you|n800 | and now i must go | 04:09 |
| rm_you|n800 | *menu | 04:09 |
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| jga23 | anybody get fceu working in os2008? | 04:11 |
| luron_ | yes | 04:13 |
| jga23 | how? | 04:13 |
| luron_ | duno. check the itt thread | 04:14 |
| luron_ | unique311 and Tak might be around | 04:14 |
| |tbb| | any chances we will see kismet on os2008 | 04:14 |
| luron_ | would be great with the gps | 04:16 |
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| * thefool wants his n770 back... | 04:17 | |
| |tbb| | yeah got a few ideas for that | 04:17 |
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| sk | why doesn't kismet work on os2008/ | 04:19 |
| sk | it works on n770, id' just assume it works on os2008 | 04:20 |
| shack008n | something allong the lines of the wifi driver dropping/corrupting packets | 04:21 |
| sk | oh word | 04:21 |
| sk | damn | 04:21 |
| shack008n | gotta love binary drivers.. | 04:21 |
| sk | or not | 04:22 |
| sk | heh | 04:22 |
| sk | alright im out | 04:26 |
| sk | peace | 04:26 |
| shack008n | me too | 04:26 |
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| skibur | anybody running kde? | 04:30 |
| unique311 | luron not a dev for fceu...heh | 04:32 |
| unique311 | tak i think is. | 04:33 |
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| unique311 | but to answer your fceu questions..vba works so i don't see why fceu is not ported yet to 2008 | 04:34 |
| thefool | skibur: oh god, you mean on the tablet? | 04:34 |
| unique311 | working perfectly, thats another question. | 04:34 |
| skibur | yeah | 04:34 |
| unique311 | gngeo, is working 100 percent besides the a little issue with the onscreen keys not showing up . | 04:35 |
| jga23 | will any neogeo game run? | 04:36 |
| skibur | yeah | 04:36 |
| skibur | but slow | 04:36 |
| luron | i thought neogeo was very fast | 04:36 |
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| jga23 | I just want to play ikari warriors, I hope fceu gets ported quickly | 04:36 |
| unique311 | luron it is. | 04:37 |
| Vulcanis | PCSX being ported would be fun, too... As would drpocketsnes | 04:37 |
| unique311 | skibur, gngeo runs really fast. | 04:37 |
| skibur | ? | 04:37 |
| skibur | hum... | 04:37 |
| unique311 | Vulcanis, pupnik worked on a psx port. | 04:37 |
| skibur | no frames missing? | 04:37 |
| thefool | skibur: I think KDE on a tablet would be an abomination. But it does work according to what I have been told | 04:37 |
| skibur | abomination? | 04:38 |
| unique311 | and got it running at speeds you should not try to play unless you are drunk.. | 04:38 |
| unique311 | not even drunk | 04:38 |
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| jga23 | you think sengoku will run on the n810? | 04:38 |
| luron | ikari was an awesome game in the arcades. loved the controls | 04:38 |
| skibur | thefool, have you seen it? | 04:38 |
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| luron | "Welcome to my home, warrior!.... This is the place of your DEATH" | 04:38 |
| skibur | running? | 04:38 |
| thefool | pictures/screen shots | 04:39 |
| thefool | but not in real life | 04:39 |
| skibur | o ok | 04:39 |
| Vulcanis | Unique: Yeah, does not work with 2008 | 04:39 |
| skibur | I need to repartition my sd card | 04:39 |
| Vulcanis | With the upped processor speed, RPGs would probably be playable | 04:39 |
| luron | We'll get more emulators in 2008 | 04:39 |
| skibur | I had it in reverse order | 04:39 |
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| unique311 | gpsp a vba emulator runs on the gp2x and zaurus at really nice speeds. | 04:41 |
| unique311 | got it to build for chinook.. | 04:42 |
| unique311 | and it runs on the device, but i cann't find any games that will run. | 04:42 |
| luron | nice! | 04:42 |
| luron | hows that frontend you worked on for the gameboy? | 04:42 |
| unique311 | i think its bios problem or the roms. | 04:42 |
| unique311 | frontend is for gngeo. | 04:42 |
| unique311 | and i finally got the hang on the whole hildonization thing. right now i'm removing stuff i don't think it people will need. | 04:43 |
| thefool | how long does nokia take to do a repair usually? | 04:44 |
| unique311 | some of the menu options are really screwed. i have to fix that. | 04:44 |
| luron | unique311: wasn't Tak putting gngeo frontend into xmaeme? | 04:44 |
| thefool | I feel like I am going to die without my tablet...no gps, no mp3 player, no remote for my music... | 04:44 |
| unique311 | gngeo can be run from xmaeme. | 04:45 |
| |tbb| | gnite all | 04:45 |
| jga23 | I can't get gngeo to install | 04:46 |
| jga23 | I keep getting errors | 04:46 |
| unique311 | but the frontend i'm working on, has alot of the options in the config file availble | 04:46 |
| unique311 | whereas the xmaeme frontend don | 04:46 |
| unique311 | t | 04:46 |
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| jga23 | gngeo should install on an n810 fine right? | 04:51 |
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| luron | ok ty unique311 | 04:59 |
| luron | jga23: dunno about os2008 | 04:59 |
| unique311 | yes | 04:59 |
| unique311 | it does | 04:59 |
| unique311 | but you need to creata a directory | 04:59 |
| unique311 | /media/mmc1/roms/neogeo | 05:00 |
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| unique311 | jga23, check iTT for the neogeo thread. There's a howto post. | 05:07 |
| unique311 | on page 2 or 3 | 05:07 |
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| skibur | Now I got more space to install applications | 05:10 |
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| rm_you|n800 | woo, open wireless at a sushi restaurant in seattle :) | 05:28 |
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| rm_you|n800 | hrm, wonder if i can do devwork from here | 05:30 |
| rm_you|n800 | this rocks... table has a power outlet | 05:31 |
| rm_you|n800 | i should just do my work here everybody | 05:32 |
| rm_you|n800 | s/everybody/every day/ | 05:32 |
| infobot | rm_you|n800 meant: i should just do my work here every day | 05:32 |
| rm_you|n800 | the autocomplete on this thing is more annoying than helpful >_> | 05:33 |
| Vulcanis | its even worse when it covers most of the spacebar | 05:33 |
| Vulcanis | there needs to be an option to turn it off | 05:33 |
| rm_you|n800 | yeah | 05:34 |
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| shack008n | devwork on the n800? good luck :) | 05:38 |
| rm_you|n800 | lol | 05:38 |
| rm_you|n800 | i have a bluetooth keyboard :P | 05:39 |
| shack008n | ah yeah, you're the cargo guy | 05:39 |
| rm_you|n800 | rofl | 05:39 |
| rm_you|n800 | shhhhh | 05:39 |
| shack008n | why not just bring the lapttop? if there's power.. | 05:40 |
| rm_you|n800 | don't have one | 05:40 |
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| andqso | I've got a program that will run using run-standalone.sh | 05:48 |
| andqso | but when I try to launch it from the menu it says "loading" for a while | 05:48 |
| andqso | and then gives up | 05:48 |
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| andqso | I'm pretty sure it's not the desktop | 05:48 |
| andqso | file | 05:48 |
| andqso | and I can't seem to figure out what's causing it | 05:49 |
| andqso | I know this is not a lot of information | 05:49 |
| andqso | but I would appreciate it if anyone has thoughts about what the issue might be | 05:49 |
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| shack008n | sigh, i'm mighty hungry but too tired to get out of bed | 05:51 |
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| andqso | I've poked around at this for a while and I'm really not sure where to go | 05:52 |
| andqso | I apologize if this is straightforward and I'm just being dense | 05:52 |
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| skibur | Wow | 05:56 |
| shack008n | skib? | 05:56 |
| skibur | Kde is nice on The N800 OS2008 | 05:56 |
| skibur | just finished | 05:56 |
| skibur | going to play around with it | 05:56 |
| shack008n | mm, don't know if this is a goid or a bad thing | 05:56 |
| skibur | not sure | 05:59 |
| skibur | I'm here to test | 05:59 |
| skibur | :P | 05:59 |
| skibur | laters | 05:59 |
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| andqso | @shack008n oops | 06:04 |
| andqso | working now | 06:04 |
| shack008n | what was the problem? | 06:05 |
| andqso | it didn't like that I was specifiying X-Osso-Service and X-Osso-Type at the end of the desktop file | 06:06 |
| andqso | or else I did it wrong | 06:06 |
| andqso | either way, removing that bit fixed it | 06:06 |
| oil | morning | 06:06 |
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| luron | i dunno about kde. a lot of apps want too much vertical screen space | 06:08 |
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| dospod | hey | 06:12 |
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| talat | hi, i want to add new language layout my chinook on screen keyboard how can i do ? | 06:30 |
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| dospod | what keyboard layout? | 06:34 |
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| talat | turkish keyboard layout | 06:35 |
| dospod | you gotta see if its available | 06:36 |
| talat | not available i want to do this keyboard layout but i dont foundu how to change or how to make new keyboard layout | 06:37 |
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| dospod | ok u see where it says en on the onscreen keyboard? | 06:38 |
| dospod | see if its listed | 06:39 |
| dospod | if not ur out of luck | 06:39 |
| talat | ok maemo not list turkish keyboard layout i want to create this | 06:40 |
| dospod | can u code? | 06:41 |
| talat | but i hope find a defination fie for keyboard layout for new keyboard layouts but i dont find it | 06:41 |
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| talat | yes i can | 06:41 |
| talat | i try to translate my n800 english to turkish | 06:42 |
| dospod | if so in the garage someone made a czech onscreen keyboard , i would check its source and use it to add turk support | 06:42 |
| talat | hım | 06:43 |
| dospod | and its good seeing someone willing to do turkish for maemo | 06:44 |
| dospod | will help expand the maemo scene | 06:44 |
| talat | i dont find garage but i found this | 06:44 |
| talat | http://www.upir.cz/maemo/keyboards/ | 06:44 |
| dospod | garage is the repo | 06:45 |
| dospod | on the us site at least | 06:45 |
| talat | can you give me link ? | 06:45 |
| dospod | the page u found is good | 06:46 |
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| dospod | but yea ho;d on | 06:46 |
| dospod | garage.maemo.org | 06:46 |
| dospod | nothin special | 06:47 |
| talat | ok search in | 06:47 |
| talat | if i do tukish keyboard | 06:48 |
| dospod | it will be appreciated by turks | 06:48 |
| talat | how can i add default n800 firmware ? | 06:48 |
| dospod | ;] | 06:48 |
| dospod | personally idk but that page you linked looks extremely useful | 06:49 |
| dospod | but im out time for bed i got school tommorow | 06:49 |
| talat | ok thank you all of them :) | 06:49 |
| dospod | good luck talat | 06:50 |
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| talat | god night dospod | 06:50 |
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| luron | http://steve.yegge.googlepages.com/tour-de-babel An experienced software engineer's insightful rant on programming languages | 07:02 |
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| darx | hi guys.. how can i improve the frame rate of videos? | 07:34 |
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| luron | i use mpeg4 at 400x240 and have no problems with fps | 07:35 |
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| darx_ | any thoughts on how to improve video performance for n800? | 07:36 |
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| darx_ | I tried mplayer. | 07:36 |
| darx_ | upgraded to the latest firmware as well | 07:36 |
| luron | you give too little info | 07:37 |
| luron | so you won't get help | 07:37 |
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| darx | luron: i'm on an n800 with the latest firmware. I'm using mplayer to play. i cant watch full res videos; xvids (around 640*480) in 30 fps. what more info do you need? | 07:40 |
| darx | ?;-( | 07:40 |
| darx | luron: I'm a newbie ok? At least tell me what is it that you need so I can go find it out? | 07:43 |
| darx | jeez you guys are elitists | 07:43 |
| darx | :-( | 07:43 |
| luron | yeah | 07:46 |
| luron | sorry was in another chan | 07:46 |
| darx | ok | 07:46 |
| darx | sorry about the name calling :-P | 07:47 |
| luron | anything high res you pretty much need to transcode to lower res | 07:47 |
| luron | i only use mplayer because it's highest performing | 07:47 |
| luron | xvid should be ok, but 400x240 is max res you'll get full fps on | 07:48 |
| darx | ;-( | 07:48 |
| darx | i was hoping to stream from the lan | 07:48 |
| darx | how abt the n810? is it better? | 07:48 |
| luron | what do you have, n800 or n770 | 07:49 |
| darx | n800 | 07:49 |
| luron | same hardware cpu/gfx performance as 810 | 07:49 |
| luron | it's basically a limitation caused by texas Instruments on the OMAP 2420 system on a chip | 07:49 |
| luron | they did not design it for such high res screens | 07:49 |
| luron | the OMAP 3430 will avoid these problems - N9x0 hopefully | 07:50 |
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| luron | for streaming from the lan i use experimental knots server | 07:50 |
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| luron | and client-- and use vlc to convert video on the fly | 07:50 |
| luron | others have reported success with ogg | 07:50 |
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| darx | luron: cool. | 07:51 |
| luron | s/ogg/orb | 07:51 |
| luron | https://garage.maemo.org/projects/mediastreamer/ also some people are having fun with mediastreamer | 07:51 |
| luron | right now the vlc + knots player is a little too problematic to recommend | 07:52 |
| darx | :-( why is that? | 07:52 |
| luron | the vlc conversion is a bit picky with formats and hard to find an ffmpeg package with good support | 07:53 |
| luron | what is your server os - windows or *nix? | 07:53 |
| darx | i've access to both. | 07:53 |
| luron | do you want to convert videos and transfer them, or do streaming more? | 07:53 |
| darx | streaming | 07:53 |
| luron | ok i don't know what the best solution is right now | 07:54 |
| darx | thanks for the info. I'll try google. | 07:55 |
| darx | cheers | 07:55 |
| luron | and internettablettalk.com forums darx | 07:55 |
| darx | okies.. | 07:56 |
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| solmumaha | luron: best bet is to compile vlc from around june by hand | 07:59 |
| solmumaha | darx: you might want to try mediaserv | 08:00 |
| darx | will do. | 08:01 |
| darx | why do you think vlc is better? | 08:01 |
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| metatron | what am i doing here.... | 08:01 |
| darx | solmumaha: ^^ | 08:02 |
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| solmumaha | darx: well vlc enables seeking of the transcoded stream | 08:04 |
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| darx | performance wise, is vlc better than mplayer? | 08:04 |
| solmumaha | ah, vlc is not meant for playing, only streaming | 08:05 |
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| solmumaha | mplayer is faster, but the default player works fine with mediaserv | 08:05 |
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| solmumaha | haven't tested the vlc for the tablet, don't think it will match the speed of mplayer | 08:06 |
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| darx | flash stopped working on my n800 os 2008. any ideas? | 08:49 |
| darx | also how can i reformat n800? | 08:50 |
| luron | reformatting is called reflashing | 08:51 |
| luron | dunno about flash problems, try powering off and on again | 08:52 |
| darx | can i just update the firmware as usual to reflash? | 08:53 |
| luron | darx: http://maemo.org/community/wiki/HOWTO_FlashLatestNokiaImageWithLinux | 08:53 |
| solmumaha | darx: the magnifying glass icon on browser -> components -> check flash is selected | 08:55 |
| darx | solmumaha: too late, :-) already reflashing | 08:55 |
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| solmumaha | well in case it happens again | 08:56 |
| solmumaha | i believe it disables flash if you're short on memory | 08:57 |
| darx | ah | 08:58 |
| darx | nice tip. a prompt would have been nice when disabling flash. | 08:59 |
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| darx | also is it possible to install mainstream distros like gentoo or ubuntu? | 09:01 |
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| Lurianic | is there acmonitor for os2008/does the old build work? | 09:27 |
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| hahlo | unmet depencies libhildonfm2 and libhildonmime0 E: broken packages | 09:35 |
| hahlo | too old versions of those | 09:36 |
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| luron | i have no exp with os2008 | 09:37 |
| lardman|home | morning all | 09:38 |
| hahlo | 1:1.9.49 should be and is .46 where and how i get newer of those? | 09:39 |
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| sparr | i am trying to use a usbnet+nat connection from my 770 | 09:49 |
| sparr | everything from a console works fine, but everything in the gui opens the damn wifi connection selector | 09:50 |
| sparr | help? | 09:50 |
| Lurianic | i assume the gui only handles the two devices | 09:50 |
| sparr | :( | 09:51 |
| X-Fade_ | sparr: I think there was a dummy connection hack for that.. | 09:51 |
| sparr | thats weird | 09:51 |
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| sparr | aha | 09:52 |
| X-Fade_ | sparr: http://maemo.org/community/wiki/usbnetworking/ | 09:52 |
| X-Fade_ | sparr: And this http://maemo.org/community/wiki/DummyIAP | 09:53 |
| sparr | found it, thanks | 09:54 |
| sparr | working fine now | 09:54 |
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| X-Fade_ | So, did anyone order a N810 with discount code yet? :) | 10:01 |
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| msh_ | X-Fade_: us store doesn't appear working at least. | 10:01 |
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| X-Fade_ | msh_: I ordered mine via direct.nokia.com, worked for NL. | 10:02 |
| skibur | hello | 10:03 |
| lardman|home | X-Fade_: with the code? | 10:04 |
| X-Fade_ | lardman|home: Yep :) | 10:04 |
| lardman|home | X-Fade_: I get redirected to shop.nokia.co.uk | 10:04 |
| X-Fade_ | http://direct.nokia.com/Product.aspx?model=N810 | 10:04 |
| X-Fade_ | lardman|home: I guess you are out of luck then :( | 10:04 |
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| lardman|home | oh no, it's changed since I last tried, it goes straight through now | 10:05 |
| unique311 | can someone help me with this last problem i'm facing. | 10:05 |
| unique311 | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KN57-Vn0WpI | 10:05 |
| unique311 | i manage to build and hildon somewhat this app | 10:05 |
| unique311 | I need help removing the tab containing File Configuration and Rom Drivers. | 10:06 |
| msh_ | X-Fade_: huh, selecting US with that link goes to n800. oh well, shall wait. | 10:06 |
| unique311 | not removing. | 10:06 |
| lardman|home | X-Fade_: product not found in the UK Nseries Online shop; have to wait a bit longer | 10:06 |
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| X-Fade_ | Hmm even weirder, the link doesn't work for me in IE, but does in firefox :) | 10:07 |
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| * lardman|home tried with Firefox | 10:07 | |
| msh_ | mm. nokia's websites seem to be pretty special | 10:07 |
| unique311 | but adding it to hildon menubar | 10:08 |
| X-Fade_ | I get a nokia error page in IE :) | 10:08 |
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| X-Fade_ | But I ordered my N810 on my N800 ;) | 10:08 |
| vegai | hmm, I thought they were supposed to mail us when a device is available in a local shop | 10:08 |
| X-Fade_ | vegai: I guess not all shops are ready yet. | 10:08 |
| X-Fade_ | vegai: I just try that url every day and yesterday it started to work :) | 10:09 |
| vegai | ah :) nifty. | 10:09 |
| kulve | vegai: I didn't get any email from the nseries shop, even though I entered my mail there. And I ordered the device yesterday from the direct.nokia.com url. The nseries.com is still saying that the device is not available | 10:10 |
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| vegai | ok, so the mails might come in the near future then | 10:10 |
| lardman|home | direct.nokia.com redirects me to the nseries shop now | 10:10 |
| jga | is there an svn client for os2008? | 10:10 |
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| X-Fade_ | It is really nice to see that you get a 360 euro discount ;) | 10:11 |
| lardman|home | perhaps not a redirect, the url stays the same, but the words at the top certainly say "Nseries online shop" | 10:11 |
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| kulve | lardman|home: same here, but I managed to buy it even though nseries.com claims it's not available | 10:13 |
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| lardman|home | hmm | 10:14 |
| talat | hi, what is the default font os 2008 | 10:14 |
| lardman|home | I see there's a phone number, I wonder if I could buy it over the phone with the code...? | 10:14 |
| Cptnodegard | hmm, anyone know if this is n800 compatible? http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.4860 ? looks like it | 10:14 |
| kulve | afaik, you cannot charge n800 with through the usb | 10:16 |
| kulve | -through | 10:17 |
| jga | for neogeo games, can I leave the file zipped or do I have to unzip it? | 10:17 |
| Cptnodegard | you can if its not the USB on the device | 10:17 |
| Cptnodegard | you cant shove USB power in the USB port, but you can shove it in the charge port :) | 10:18 |
| kulve | Cptnodegard: ah, sorry, I read the thing too hasty.. | 10:19 |
| Cptnodegard | i think the plug itself will fit, thats the only real q... but its only 5 bucks anyways | 10:20 |
| talat | what is the os 2008 font ? | 10:20 |
| talat | is it DejaVu Sans | 10:21 |
| sparr | havent used my 770 in weeks | 10:23 |
| sparr | its gonna play navigator/atlas for a road trip this weekend | 10:23 |
| sparr | glad i havent sold it yet | 10:23 |
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| * keesj also ordered the n810 while living in the netherlands using the discount code | 10:44 | |
| X-Fade_ | keesj: Let us hope they deliver on saturday ;) | 10:45 |
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| luron | anybody get a code activated in germany? | 10:53 |
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| skibur | how do you change the font? | 10:55 |
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| Jaffa | Morning, all | 11:06 |
| Jaffa | Discount codes fully working then? | 11:06 |
| Jaffa | Nope, mine for the UK doesn't. | 11:07 |
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| Cptnodegard | italian one doesnt either, from what i heard | 11:08 |
| Cptnodegard | so no | 11:08 |
| Cptnodegard | which is retarded by noka | 11:08 |
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| anders_ | My swedish code worked (going to the swedish shop via http://direct.nokia.com/Product.aspx?model=N810) | 11:09 |
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| Jaffa | The UK has, since shortly after the launch of the N800, redirected to shop.nokia.co.uk rather than direct.nokia.com (I ordered my N800 from direct.nokia.com, but the N810 will have to come from shop....) | 11:21 |
| alp | Jaffa: shop.nokia.co.uk didn't work for me this morning, "invalid code" | 11:23 |
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| hendry | Silly question: can I upgrade the firmware on a N800 to what's on a N810? | 11:27 |
| luron | nice work unique311 | 11:28 |
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| luron | hopefully someone who knows the way to get the tabs into the hildon menu | 11:28 |
| luron | but i am starting to learn it too | 11:28 |
| luron | Jaffa: german one (mine) not working either | 11:29 |
| luron | hendry: basically yes - check wiki to flash os2008 onto n800 | 11:29 |
| Spacer | mm evince not available for os2008 | 11:30 |
| hahlo | Nokia-N800-44-4:~# apt-get install skype sayz: " skype: Depends: libhildonfm2 (>= 1:1.9.49) but 1:1.9.46 is to be installed, and Depends: libhildonmime0 (>= 1.10.1) but 1.10.0-1 is to be installed" No skype n800-os2008 then? | 11:32 |
| red-zack | read the text | 11:33 |
| hahlo | too old version of those libs | 11:35 |
| hahlo | cause it sayz 'libhildonfm2 is already the newest version.' | 11:36 |
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| ustunozgur | is this not booting up issue common for n800? i see the nokia screen but after that it shuts down again. | 11:39 |
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| d^_^B | hi | 11:41 |
| d^_^B | guys | 11:41 |
| Khertan | Hi ! | 11:41 |
| d^_^B | :D | 11:41 |
| timelyx | hahlo: skype doesn't support non latest | 11:42 |
| timelyx | 44 is the beta, | 11:42 |
| timelyx | you need 50 or whatever the official is | 11:43 |
| hahlo | ah ok, thanks again | 11:43 |
| timelyx | hendry: depends, you can upgrade both n800 and n810 to the same version | 11:43 |
| timelyx | but you shouldn't try to install 42 on n800 (you'll be unhappy) | 11:43 |
| d^_^B | :D | 11:44 |
| d^_^B | cool | 11:44 |
| timelyx | in fact, you shouldn't run 42 or 44 on anything :) | 11:44 |
| timelyx | unless you happen to like being unhappy | 11:44 |
| onion | yay, discount code worked for finland | 11:45 |
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| hendry | in macosx i get "Unsupported board (id = 0x0000)" while trying to flash my n800 with /flasher.macosx RX-34_2008SE_2.2007.50-2_PR_COMBINED_MR0_ARM.bin -f -R | 11:53 |
| msh_ | hrm. anyone figured how to fix application manager always showing "operation failed" in scratchbox? | 11:53 |
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| Spacer | nice, you can use the sys interface to manually control keyboard led intensity... echo 512 > /sys/class/leds/keyboard/brightness | 11:56 |
| timelyx | hendry: google doesn't show any promising hits for osx/2008 | 11:59 |
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| * Jaffa has been told that it's worked to flash 2008 (through the command line and my GUI wrapper). | 12:09 | |
| Jaffa | But I've not got a Mac anymore so can't test, and have heard contradictory things about Intel macs | 12:09 |
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| luron | boo @ nokia.de | 12:09 |
| hendry | i was missing the -F switch :> | 12:10 |
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| unique311 | luron, hopefully. | 12:16 |
| unique311 | guess some more reading i can probably manage to get the toolbar menu in the hildonmenu . | 12:16 |
| luron | yeah takes some time to figure out that stuff | 12:17 |
| luron | and i'm not always motivated enough to do it | 12:17 |
| unique311 | but if I don't. i'll release it how it is, and someone else can take over. | 12:17 |
| luron | k | 12:17 |
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| * msh_ ponders why maemo-mapper isn't showing anything (in scratchbox)... | 12:28 | |
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| hahlo | I try to download that stable image 2008, last link but I have got twice this beta RX-34_2008SE_1.2007.44-4_PR_COMBINED_MR0_ARM.bin | 12:32 |
| hahlo | is there some other place to download | 12:32 |
| mariorz | is there a gnupg port for maemo? | 12:33 |
| hahlo | apparently this http://tablets-dev.nokia.com/nokia_N800.php isn't right | 12:33 |
| mariorz | could fwknop port for maemo be trivial? | 12:34 |
| mariorz | specifically the client side | 12:34 |
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| tsavola | fwknop sounds like a profanity | 12:36 |
| mariorz | like fwnop you tsavola ? | 12:37 |
| mariorz | or fwknop you even | 12:37 |
| tsavola | maybe | 12:37 |
| hahlo | where i can download that stable image 50.something? | 12:41 |
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| tbf | how can i tell the media player to add a samba share to its playlist? | 12:42 |
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| fugitivo | hello | 12:45 |
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| hendry | ok RX-34_2008SE_2.2007.50-2_PR_COMBINED_MR0_ARM.bin, what maemo version is that? maemo 4.0 'chinook' repository ? | 12:52 |
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| kulve | 2008 = 4.0 SDK | 12:54 |
| kulve | so, yes | 12:54 |
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| hendry | i just want to setup the repositries right, to have all the latest stuff (i want to develop) | 12:58 |
| truls | anyone played with pygame stuff on the n800? | 12:58 |
| truls | wondering how you would integrate stuff like that with hildon, or if you just fullscreened it | 12:58 |
| hendry | hmm, it has power, though it seems to drop ssh clients from its ssh server after a minute | 13:04 |
| d^_^B | :D COOL | 13:04 |
| d^_^B | is there anyone from UAE? | 13:04 |
| d^_^B | huh? | 13:07 |
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| |tbb| | will this usb-networking guide work for os2008 -> http://maemo.org/community/wiki/howto_simpletoggles/ and/or there a deb out there which do that usb-networking from gui | 13:08 |
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| lardman | hmm, code's still not working in the uk :( | 13:21 |
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| d^_^B | ? | 13:22 |
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| * EY is shopping for a new phone... Any advice? | 13:31 | |
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| hahlo | EY: depens what you want from phone but gnokii didn't work too well with s60 3rd edition | 13:33 |
| lardman | Anyone fancy some code debugging? ;) | 13:35 |
| lardman | here's the code: http://people.bath.ac.uk/enpsgp/nokia770/dsp/vorbisdec/Tremor-threaded/framing.c | 13:35 |
| EY | hahlo: 3G, Bluetooth, and lightweight. That's about all I want. | 13:35 |
| lardman | here's the explanation of the code: http://people.bath.ac.uk/enpsgp/nokia770/dsp/vorbisdec/Tremor-threaded/explanation.txt | 13:36 |
| hahlo | EY: do you plan to use it with internet tablet? | 13:37 |
| EY | Yes. | 13:37 |
| hahlo | at least it doesn't accept windows mobile as a gateway | 13:38 |
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| EY | So a battery that lasts as long as the N800's is essential. | 13:38 |
| truls | do you have phones that last less than the n800? | 13:38 |
| EY | truls: true :-) | 13:39 |
| hahlo | here in rubberbootland one operator bundle n800 with 6120 it should work only gnokii might not | 13:40 |
| Spacer | i got a new n810, and its battery life is impressive. Specs say 4hours with continuous use, but after 6h its still going strong | 13:40 |
| fugitivo | Spacer: connected to a wifi spot? | 13:41 |
| Spacer | yes | 13:41 |
| fugitivo | nice | 13:41 |
| glass | no phone out there will work as 3g bt modem that long | 13:41 |
| Spacer | indeed, im pleasantly surprised | 13:41 |
| EY | My N800 has been playing an Internet radio for the past 3 hours. | 13:41 |
| |tbb| | install battery-status to see how many percent the battery is, the indicator on the applet lies sometimes | 13:41 |
| EY | last* 3 hours | 13:41 |
| fugitivo | my 770 dies in 30 min :) | 13:42 |
| EY | looks like the screen is what drains the battery | 13:42 |
| hahlo | wifi takes more than bt to 3g phone? | 13:42 |
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| Spacer | 30min? how so? | 13:42 |
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| lardman | depends whether you're sending data the whole time and how hard the processor's working too | 13:42 |
| EY | hahlo: I suppose there would be 2 transmissions: one to the BT device, and another to the cell. | 13:42 |
| Spacer | im working on a new mapper, which will be quite cpu intensive, i hope it will be battery friendly | 13:43 |
| lardman | I can sit my N800 on wifi and ssh in for a few hours and it doens't do much to the battery | 13:43 |
| lardman | Spacer: what will your new mapper do? | 13:43 |
| hahlo | ok. | 13:43 |
| Spacer | right now its just downloading png's from openstreetmap. I'm working on making it render "real life" using raw osm data | 13:44 |
| lardman | can't maemo mapper do that already? | 13:44 |
| Spacer | heh. no ;) | 13:44 |
| lardman | osm? | 13:44 |
| Spacer | well its the xml formatted gps data containing all the roads and points of interest | 13:45 |
| lardman | ah, I see, and the meta data too, such as road speeds? | 13:45 |
| Spacer | i condensed the current database containing europe down to a dbase of ~800mb in size. This is all that is needed to draw beautifull maps down to any level | 13:46 |
| Spacer | yes thats all in there | 13:46 |
| Spacer | in the osm file anyway | 13:46 |
| lardman | you could also do on-demand downloading of parts of the database | 13:46 |
| EY | IS the 6300 any good? | 13:46 |
| glass | it's ok | 13:47 |
| glass | most s40's are the same | 13:47 |
| Spacer | eventually ;) Right now i first need to finish the dbase format so it can be used on maemo, and then write a lib to actually render | 13:47 |
| lardman | sounds interesting | 13:47 |
| lardman | I want to look at routing | 13:47 |
| EY | ah, ok. | 13:48 |
| glass | EY: if you intend to compare nokias phones then their dev pages come handy.. http://www.forum.nokia.com/devices/6300 | 13:48 |
| Spacer | lardman routing is possible then | 13:48 |
| EY | glass: Thanks. | 13:49 |
| lardman | Spacer: have you seen Navit? http://www.navit-project.org/ | 13:49 |
| Spacer | yes, its a nice. What I had in mind is slightly different though, using agg (like mapnik) to do the drawing so we get nice antialiased graphics | 13:51 |
| Spacer | and integrate it in mapper | 13:51 |
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| lardman | how well will that work without hw accel? | 13:52 |
| hahlo | apparently that nokia_N800.php doesn't direct wrong image it just disconnects downloading too early | 13:52 |
| lardman | Spacer: depends how fast you want to update I suppose | 13:53 |
| Spacer | my main focus is just 2d graphics, not yet 3d | 13:53 |
| Spacer | the advantage is you dont have to updte in real time | 13:53 |
| hahlo | firefox saves file as nokia_N800.php and it is 135M data | 13:54 |
| fugitivo | does SIP work in os2007 HE? | 13:55 |
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| kulve | fugitivo: I think the SIP support came with the 2008, so it's not in the 2007HE | 13:58 |
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| fugitivo | god, i want my discount codeeee | 14:03 |
| Spacer | how much of a discount? | 14:03 |
| X-Fade_ | Spacer: I got 360 euro ;) | 14:03 |
| Spacer | nice | 14:04 |
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| Spacer | could by some extra sd space for it... which I did but turned out no micro->mini adapter included :( | 14:04 |
| X-Fade_ | Yeah, need to find a micro->mini adapter too. | 14:05 |
| fugitivo | i think it's 99 euro | 14:05 |
| X-Fade_ | fugitivo: Yep, 99 euro ex. shipping. | 14:06 |
| fugitivo | how much will it be for usa? | 14:06 |
| fugitivo | 99 dolars? | 14:06 |
| X-Fade_ | 149 orso.. | 14:06 |
| X-Fade_ | The equivalent of 99 euro in dollars.. | 14:07 |
| lardman | derf: how does one check compliance of a vorbis encoder? Is there code available to check that an ogg vorbis file is structured correctly or does one just decode it and see if there are errors? | 14:08 |
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| hahlo | from windows with software updater i seem to get latest stable image | 14:14 |
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| Spacer | someone here with a n810 in reach? | 14:26 |
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| hendry | has anyone setup a amd64 maemo scratchbox development enviroment under debian sid? | 14:28 |
| Spacer | sort of ;P | 14:28 |
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| Spacer | i set it up on gentoo/amd64 | 14:28 |
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| Spacer | anyway scratchbox and maemo run just fine on amd64 | 14:30 |
| hendry | i guess i need to do it by hand as maemo-scratchbox script is i386 only by the looks of things | 14:30 |
| Spacer | ooh thats easily fixed with fooling uname | 14:31 |
| hendry | hmm, i think i'll try install it vmware 32bit | 14:31 |
| Spacer | its a mystery to me why they try to exclude x86_64 that way since it works just fine | 14:31 |
| Spacer | well you can also install setarch... seems a bit roundabout to use vmware | 14:33 |
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| luron | no code on nokia.de here yet | 14:34 |
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| hendry | Spacer: I've got vmware ready to rock and roll here. | 14:36 |
| Spacer | hendry, are you going to be development work? | 14:37 |
| Spacer | *doing* | 14:37 |
| luron | ahh only shops with http://direct.nokia.com/Product.aspx?model=N810 work | 14:37 |
| hendry | Spacer: getting into it | 14:37 |
| Spacer | which kind of applications? | 14:37 |
| hendry | Spacer: I want to compile a plugin for the microb browser | 14:37 |
| Spacer | ah isee | 14:38 |
| hendry | so I guess I need to compile in a scratchbox in debian, and then transfer the binary across? | 14:38 |
| Spacer | someone here with a n810 in reach? | 14:38 |
| Spacer | you want to compile an existing plugin? | 14:38 |
| hendry | Spacer: yes | 14:38 |
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| hendry | gcc says it's installed on my n800, gcc cannot be found | 14:39 |
| Spacer | well you login to scratchbox, set the armel target, and simply do the ./configure && make stuff | 14:39 |
| d^_^B | is there anyone from UAE? | 14:39 |
| luron | not advisable to do development on the n800 | 14:39 |
| Spacer | yeah, also no need to actually compile things on it | 14:39 |
| luron | from the middle east, or the amiga emulator d^_^B | 14:39 |
| hendry | Spacer: ok, i'm waiting for the scratchbox-devkit to be setup and then we'll see | 14:40 |
| Spacer | good luck hendry ^^ | 14:40 |
| hendry | the scripts and all these seperate files is a bit of a nuisance. isn't there a nice qemu/vmware image? | 14:40 |
| hendry | Spacer: heh, thanks =) | 14:40 |
| doc|home | woohoo, 8gig sd card just arrived :D | 14:40 |
| d^_^B | from the middle east | 14:40 |
| d^_^B | :) | 14:40 |
| d^_^B | YEA DUBAI CITY! | 14:41 |
| d^_^B | doc|home | 14:41 |
| d^_^B | doc|home | 14:41 |
| glass | i thought uae meant the amiga emu.. | 14:41 |
| d^_^B | which one u have n800 or n810? | 14:41 |
| X-Fade_ | Lol, the sources for OS2008 just got published. Guess which package is missing :) | 14:42 |
| d^_^B | hehe no dude | 14:42 |
| Spacer | X-Fade_, where? | 14:42 |
| X-Fade_ | http://repository.maemo.org/pool/os2008/free/ | 14:42 |
| Spacer | aah right... i inspected the osso pdf reader, turns out to be just a small wrapper for xpdf | 14:42 |
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| Spacer | would be nice to create a small lib that lets you control the top led, keyboard and lcd brightness, or configure powersave profiles | 14:44 |
| luron | i'm thinking that the tablets should symlink /var/cache/apt/archives to a tempdir on the mmc / sd card | 14:45 |
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| luron | doc|home: has a N800, d^_^B | 14:47 |
| luron | Spacer, the screen dimming at least is configured in gconf | 14:47 |
| hendry | Spacer: the install script b0rked because network-manager is not installed on my machine | 14:48 |
| luron | and afaik the actual power states are handled with dbus | 14:48 |
| Spacer | yeah thats quite likely | 14:48 |
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| Spacer | hendry, i have null knowledge of vmware stuff... like I said before, i used setarch x86 and ran the automated install scripts | 14:49 |
| |tbb| | X-Fade: cx3111x for example? | 14:49 |
| Spacer | cx3111x source is available.. the firmware is not ;) | 14:49 |
| X-Fade_ | |tbb|: Kernel ;) | 14:49 |
| Spacer | kernel is included | 14:49 |
| Spacer | look more closely | 14:50 |
| Spacer | kernel-source-rx-34_2.6.21.0.orig.tar.gz | 14:50 |
| X-Fade_ | Spacer: http://repository.maemo.org/pool/os2008/free/k/kernel-source-rx-34/ ? | 14:50 |
| Spacer | cx3110x-module-src_2.0.14-2.tar.gz | 14:50 |
| Spacer | and some other things, yes | 14:50 |
| X-Fade_ | Ah: http://repository.maemo.org/pool/os2008/free/source/k/kernel-source-rx-34/ ;) | 14:51 |
| X-Fade_ | Missed the source part ;) lol | 14:51 |
| |tbb| | cx3110x-module-src_2.0.14-2.tar.gz is that source ready to patch for injection ;) | 14:52 |
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| X-Fade_ | |tbb|: I guess you need to add injection in the blob, so good luck.. | 14:52 |
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| Spacer | |tbb| yeah | 14:57 |
| Spacer | the patch is no big deal | 14:57 |
| Spacer | planning to do some wardriving, are we? | 14:57 |
| |tbb| | i cant patch it, hope dragorn can do it | 14:58 |
| Spacer | i can do it for you as well | 14:58 |
| |tbb| | there where a lot of ppl which are thankfully for that | 14:59 |
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| Spacer | i will have a look when i get back, have to go to work in a few min | 14:59 |
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| unverbraucht | i just compiled a new kernel from todays linux-omap tree | 15:15 |
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| unverbraucht | at first it was missing the mipid lcd driver and the boot process output garbled lcd out | 15:15 |
| unverbraucht | now the lcd ouput stays at the nokia screen like it should, but it just turns itself off after about 40 seconds instead of continuing to boot | 15:16 |
| X-Fade_ | unverbraucht: Probably because the files in your initfs don't match the version of the kernel. | 15:16 |
| unverbraucht | so i have to flash that too? up to now i was just testing in-ram | 15:17 |
| unverbraucht | i'm wary of flashing it ;) | 15:17 |
| X-Fade_ | unverbraucht: I think there are checks. | 15:17 |
| unverbraucht | ah, ok | 15:17 |
| X-Fade_ | And binary driver blobs that aren't compatible.. | 15:17 |
| unverbraucht | so i'll try to pile my modules into the initrd and see what happens | 15:18 |
| unverbraucht | are there any other blobs apart from the wifi driver? | 15:18 |
| unverbraucht | because thats what i wanted to attack with the new p54 driver to be released in 2.6.24 | 15:18 |
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| X-Fade_ | I guess the wifi driver and the dsme stuff. | 15:18 |
| unverbraucht | ouch, i didn't think of dsme :( | 15:20 |
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| X-Fade_ | Maybe you can try to backport that driver to the current kernel version? | 15:20 |
| unverbraucht | you mean the wifi driver? | 15:21 |
| unverbraucht | intel ported mac80211 to 2.6.18 | 15:21 |
| unverbraucht | but 2.6.16 isn't quite there yet | 15:21 |
| X-Fade_ | unverbraucht: 2008 uses 2.6.21 | 15:22 |
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| unverbraucht | makes me wish i had a 800/810 :) | 15:23 |
| unverbraucht | did anybody try booting it on a 770 yet? | 15:23 |
| ustunozgur | on gronmayer.com when install all repositories is chosen the Austinche repository is not installed properly so it gives the error "unable to refresh application list" | 15:24 |
| rtp | unverbraucht: which kernel ? the one from the omap tree or the one from theos 2008 package ? | 15:24 |
| unverbraucht | rtp: i tried fresh omap tree | 15:25 |
| unverbraucht | is theos 2008 an os2008 implementation for 770? | 15:26 |
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| rtp | unverbraucht: I didn't tried fresh omap tree but I can already say that the mmc support is broken | 15:26 |
| unverbraucht | ah | 15:27 |
| unverbraucht | but did you manage to boot into x? | 15:27 |
| unverbraucht | i was trying to boot from flash so missing mmc should be non-critical | 15:27 |
| rtp | no. I only tried to rebuild the 2.6.21 from os2008 | 15:27 |
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| rtp | but the mmc bug is in both kernels | 15:28 |
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| unverbraucht | thats sad | 15:29 |
| unverbraucht | so can i continue at all without dsme? it appears that thats whats turning the power off | 15:30 |
| rtp | dsme should still be working imho | 15:30 |
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| rtp | try disabling CONFIG_FB_OMAP_MANUAL_UPDATE and configure the fb console. That'll gives you boot messages and a hint about what's wrong | 15:32 |
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| derf | lardman: ogginfo or oggzinfo can at least check that it has been muxed correctly, but I don't think there's much to check the validity of the Vorbis packets themselves. | 15:33 |
| derf | Though vorbose might be able to do that. | 15:33 |
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| unverbraucht | rtp: thanks, thats ideal | 15:33 |
| rtp | unverbraucht: btw, I've also a patch for the mmc issue if you want :) | 15:34 |
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| unverbraucht | rtp: sure, i have holidays till monday and time to tinker :) | 15:35 |
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| unverbraucht | i wonder why sometimes the kernel recompiles everything and sometimes it only compiles a few files after config change | 15:39 |
| Tak | depends whether the chicken has indigestion | 15:41 |
| unverbraucht | *g | 15:42 |
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| unverbraucht | oh crud | 15:44 |
| unverbraucht | now that i see the console i see tons of jffs2_get_inode crc failed errors | 15:45 |
| unverbraucht | but it also says vfs: mounted root (jffs2 filesystem) | 15:45 |
| unverbraucht | so i guess the partition table is ok? | 15:45 |
| rtp | unverbraucht: you've better to use a mmc. iirc, Nokia has patches for the jffs2 fs in their kernel | 15:47 |
| unverbraucht | ok | 15:47 |
| unverbraucht | so my flash isn't foobar? thats good :) | 15:48 |
| unverbraucht | so hacking will have to wait till i get my hands on a mmc thats bigger than 64mb | 15:48 |
| doc|home | is there any way to get tablet_encode to index files when it encodes? | 15:49 |
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| truls | doc|home: index how? | 15:54 |
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| doc|home | truls: some encoded movies can't skip forward or backward when you play them using mplayer because of a lack of indexing apparently | 15:55 |
| truls | so use -idx | 15:55 |
| doc|home | but there's a parameter you can pass to mplayer to index it when it starts playing, it takes a while however and requires command line use of mplayer | 15:55 |
| doc|home | truls: yeah, but if I could have it index in the first place it'd be much better | 15:56 |
| truls | it should index by itself | 15:56 |
| doc|home | seemingly not | 15:56 |
| truls | then it seems your files aren't complete | 15:56 |
| doc|home | if that was the case then why would -idx work? | 15:57 |
| truls | because it goes through the file and makes an index | 15:57 |
| doc|home | right, which is what I want to have it do as it encodes | 15:57 |
| truls | for the part of the file it has | 15:57 |
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| doc|home | there's no error when it encodes | 15:57 |
| |tbb| | how to add ctrl+r search for given commands to osso-xterm? | 15:58 |
| keesj | use bash? | 15:59 |
| luron | woohoo Baldurs Gate 4 in 1 dvd set arrived, and so did Jagged Alliance 2 | 16:01 |
| luron | game engine goodness... | 16:01 |
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| |tbb| | keesj: is it possible to install bash on os2008 | 16:06 |
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| keesj | apt-cache policy bash | 16:11 |
| keesj | http://repository.maemo.org bora/free Packages ( not tested of course) | 16:11 |
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| unverbraucht | anybody have a copy of initfs_flasher.tgz? fanoushs homepage seems to be down... | 16:18 |
| luron | i had it but slocate not finding | 16:22 |
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| fugitivo | YES@! | 16:23 |
| fugitivo | "The discount codes of the N810 maemo contributors program are going to be valid from today onwards in the supported Nokia shops." | 16:23 |
| fugitivo | damn, USA is not in the list | 16:24 |
| Tak | Smackdown! | 16:24 |
| tsavola | fugitivo: where did you read that? | 16:25 |
| nomis | tsavola: its a mail that got sent to the code-owners | 16:25 |
| X-Fade_ | tsavola: We just got a mail with those instructions.. | 16:25 |
| fugitivo | why USA is not in the list? | 16:25 |
| tsavola | didn't get one yet | 16:25 |
| Tak | The USA store is probably out of stock. | 16:26 |
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| fugitivo | there's no information regarding USA in the mail | 16:27 |
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| fugitivo | Canadian contributors will receive further information next week. | 16:27 |
| fugitivo | what about USA? | 16:27 |
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| Tak | You will die, and your country will be taken over by China. | 16:27 |
| fugitivo | what country? | 16:27 |
| * Tak blinks | 16:28 | |
| tsavola | USA has several countries, maybe Iraq? | 16:28 |
| tsavola | wasn't funny? :( | 16:29 |
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| * tsavola gets his goat | 16:29 | |
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| onion | tsavola: for non-US people perhaps :) | 16:29 |
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| nomis | tsavola: I found it funny. I was just about to suggest scandinavia, because thats where the trolls come from :) | 16:30 |
| fugitivo | i'm not from USA, i'll buy the tablet from there :) | 16:30 |
| tsavola | the country of Scandinavia?-) | 16:31 |
| tsavola | USS - United States of Scandinavia | 16:32 |
| Tak | pff, everybody knows Scandinavia's only a city-state | 16:32 |
| tsavola | where polar bears reign | 16:32 |
| tsavola | http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2007/12/071228-finwarming-video-ap.html | 16:32 |
| Tak | damn, I guess national geographic is smarter than I am: "Shorter winters and shrinking ice caps are threatening the Scandinavian country's birds and mammals, including polar bears." | 16:33 |
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| onion | tsavola: poor polar bears | 16:33 |
| Jaffa | Bah, UK still doesn't work | 16:34 |
| Andy80 | hi all ) | 16:34 |
| Andy80 | :) | 16:34 |
| Tak | finntroll, korpiklaani, and wintersun should do a joint tour to save the scandinavian polar bears | 16:34 |
| nomis | Jaffa: neither does germany. | 16:34 |
| Andy80 | just ordered the N810 from Italy :D | 16:34 |
| ajturner | erm, no US shops for N810? | 16:35 |
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| fugitivo | ajturner: no US in the email | 16:35 |
| ajturner | that's... surprising | 16:35 |
| fugitivo | the site shows "out of stock" | 16:35 |
| fugitivo | but the email doesn't says anything about USA | 16:36 |
| ajturner | I would assume there are "several" devs in the US ;) | 16:36 |
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| ajturner | there isn't even a spot to put in discount codes | 16:38 |
| ajturner | <sigh> | 16:38 |
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| fugitivo | i hate murphy | 16:40 |
| Tak | ajturner: we've been thwarted by the polar bears | 16:40 |
| ajturner | Polar Bears? I thought I took care of them in the last World Artic Battle Extreme++ | 16:40 |
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| Andy80 | L0cutus: corri a ordinare il tablet :P | 16:42 |
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| qos | hey guys ... | 16:42 |
| qos | any german n810 discount code users out here ;) | 16:42 |
| qos | ? | 16:43 |
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| nomis | qos: here. We tried some minutes ago, does not yet seem to work though. | 16:43 |
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| nomis | qos: (also be aware that the code probably has changed, it now is the one listed at the end of the mail from today? | 16:43 |
| nomis | . | 16:43 |
| qos | nomis, do you also enter it at: "Aktions- und Gutscheincode hier eingeben:" ? | 16:44 |
| qos | nomis, i tried both several times ... | 16:44 |
| DeLe0n | mmm any from US with discount code? | 16:45 |
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| nomis | qos: yeah. As they wrote in the mail, we might have to wait till tomorrow. | 16:46 |
| Jaffa | Indeed | 16:46 |
| L0cutus | Andy80, ? | 16:46 |
| Andy80 | L0cutus: uhm... don't you speak italian? | 16:47 |
| L0cutus | sisi :) | 16:47 |
| Andy80 | ahhh :) | 16:47 |
| L0cutus | what you mean ? | 16:47 |
| Andy80 | L0cutus: codes are working in IT :) | 16:47 |
| Andy80 | discount codes... | 16:47 |
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| L0cutus | i haven't received a code... | 16:47 |
| L0cutus | (unfortunately...) | 16:47 |
| Andy80 | ah :( | 16:48 |
| qos | nomis, where did they wrote that we have to wait until tomorrow? | 16:49 |
| L0cutus | but i feel good with my pretty new n800 :) | 16:49 |
| L0cutus | what i need now is rdiff-backup or dirvish :) | 16:50 |
| Cord | qos: in the mail that just came in. | 16:51 |
| Cord | and i really got a new discount code. | 16:52 |
| nomis | qos: "are going to be valid | 16:52 |
| nomis | from today onwards" | 16:52 |
| nomis | qos: which means, that they are not yet. | 16:52 |
| qos | nomis, ohh that means it :) | 16:52 |
| qos | does anyone here wants to test a package? it a theme for the build-in chat application ... | 16:54 |
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| wnd | "from that day/time on(wards) LITERARY: starting at that time and then continuing" (cambridge dictionary) | 16:57 |
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| * hahlo finally got stable os2008 in Linux Nokia-N800-50-2 2.6.21-omap1 | 17:00 | |
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| penguinbait | hello? | 17:00 |
| penguinbait | anyone know where USA discounts codes are? | 17:01 |
| hahlo | that far, weeks i played with beta and complaint that nothing works | 17:01 |
| penguinbait | fudge muckers!!!! | 17:01 |
| jpuderer | fanoush.wz.cz seems to be down. Anyone know what happened? | 17:02 |
| hahlo | who needs discount at these prices euro is high and dollar low | 17:02 |
| X-Fade_ | hahlo: I doubt that you can import a N810 for 99eur ;) | 17:03 |
| hahlo | is it that cheap? | 17:03 |
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| wnd | the funny thing is that the order tracking page has my phone number as street address... | 17:04 |
| hahlo | I payed 259e for n800 and thought it was cheap | 17:04 |
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| X-Fade_ | hahlo: This price is only for the 500 people selected for the developer device program. | 17:05 |
| hahlo | cool | 17:05 |
| ptman | it's 99e + shipping, in my case 122.06e | 17:05 |
| X-Fade_ | ptman: Hehe, could not wait another day, could you :) | 17:06 |
| Sho_ | The German codes don't seem to work yet | 17:06 |
| hahlo | still very low price | 17:06 |
| wnd | ptman, if you go check the order tracking page, is your delivery address correct? | 17:06 |
| Cord | Sho_: ack. | 17:06 |
| ptman | X-Fade_: why should I? I think I've waited enough | 17:06 |
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| Sho_ | ptman: 23€ shipping? Ouch, hefty. Well, still a bargain of course. | 17:06 |
| X-Fade_ | Sho_: That is express shipping. Regular is about 11 euro.. | 17:07 |
| ptman | I haven't received a order tracking link | 17:07 |
| Sho_ | ah | 17:07 |
| Sho_ | I'll go with regular, waiting a little longer won't be the end :) | 17:07 |
| X-Fade_ | ptman: Me neither. And I ordered yesterday ;) | 17:07 |
| wnd | ptman, order number is on the order confirmation page | 17:07 |
| ptman | X-Fade_: no, I took regular | 17:07 |
| ptman | wnd: yes, I've got the order number | 17:08 |
| Sho_ | ptman: 23€ for an in-country shipping, or is the package skipping borders? | 17:08 |
| X-Fade_ | ptman: Hmm I had to pay 11 euro for it.. | 17:08 |
| ptman | it's coming from belgium or something | 17:08 |
| wnd | order confirmation page also has a link to order tracking thing | 17:08 |
| wnd | http://direct.nokia.com/orderTracking.aspx | 17:08 |
| X-Fade_ | wnd: Ah yes, now I see my UPS tracking number ;) | 17:09 |
| ptman | wnd: no, actually it's showing my phone number as my address | 17:09 |
| ptman | wnd: but thanks for the link | 17:10 |
| X-Fade_ | ptman: Indeed, it does show my telephone as address :) | 17:10 |
| ptman | bummer, are we in for another wait | 17:10 |
| wnd | glad to hear I'm not the only one. the page must be buggy, the confirmation email has also the address correct. | 17:10 |
| mat|work | my code allows me to get a N810 for 0 euros... kinda cool :] | 17:10 |
| Sho_ | X-Fade_, ptman: Do you remember from ordering whether the shop software expects the credit card owner to be the discount recipient or the name on the billing/shipping address, or if there's a separate field? | 17:11 |
| X-Fade_ | Sho_: I clicked that it was the same.. | 17:11 |
| Sho_ | ah, so I suppose you can also click that it isn't | 17:11 |
| X-Fade_ | Sho_: But both my billing and shipping and delivery address is my phone number now ;) | 17:11 |
| Sho_ | hm :) | 17:12 |
| X-Fade_ | Sho_: I am sure that after a few days I will see in UPS tracking that is has been returned to sender.. | 17:13 |
| X-Fade_ | Sho_: Just my luck :) | 17:13 |
| Sho_ | :/ | 17:13 |
| wnd | always the optimist | 17:13 |
| Sho_ | pessimists get disappointed less, I suppose ;) | 17:13 |
| penguinbait | where is USA store, they are killing me :( | 17:13 |
| penguinbait | no news at all? | 17:13 |
| X-Fade_ | wnd: I have had that happen with direct nokia and ups before ;) | 17:13 |
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| Sho_ | penguinbait: The mail we got only had something about Canada as far as NA is concerned | 17:14 |
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| penguinbait | I got the same mail | 17:14 |
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| ptman | everyone tells me I'm a pessimist, I think of myself as an realist and in the end I turn out to be an optimist | 17:14 |
| penguinbait | whole lot a good it does me? | 17:14 |
| derf | I've pretty much resigned myself to not getting the device before I leave for LCA at this point. | 17:14 |
| luron | are code recipients limited to the store they specified? | 17:16 |
| penguinbait | not sure? | 17:16 |
| luron | i can't remember if i specified nokia.de or some other strangeness - can't see it in my maemo profile | 17:16 |
| penguinbait | I thought that was the original statement, but dont know | 17:16 |
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| penguinbait | I guess I live in Michigan, so Canada is only about 50 miles to Windsor, and I know a couple people in Canada | 17:17 |
| ph|ber | will maemomapper not use the internal gps? | 17:19 |
| Andy80 | mat|work: lucky you :D | 17:19 |
| mat|work | Andy80: well, I haven't completed the order... I'm still unsure about what to do about that :) | 17:19 |
| Andy80 | well... just try :D | 17:20 |
| X-Fade_ | Hmm gmail has built-in ups tracking support. | 17:20 |
| Sho_ | Cord: Mind giving me an IRC ping when your German code starts working? I'll do the same when it starts on one of my tries | 17:21 |
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| Zic | hi | 17:26 |
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| |R | maemo program instruction received! ... but not for canada haha doh :( | 17:26 |
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| penguinbait | at least they mention Canada | 17:28 |
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| |R | hehe yeah :) | 17:29 |
| * |R has to get this before the end of february | 17:29 | |
| penguinbait | I am in same boat, but in USA with no mention of how to achieve this goal | 17:30 |
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| penguinbait | at least canada is coming next week | 17:30 |
| penguinbait | ? | 17:30 |
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| |R | oh didn't notice USA was not in the list | 17:30 |
| penguinbait | or next month? hehe | 17:30 |
| |R | wtf | 17:30 |
| penguinbait | ?? | 17:30 |
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| X-Fade_ | lardman: Did you order yours yet? | 17:34 |
| X-Fade_ | lardman: Should work for UK now too.. | 17:34 |
| luron | german nokia shop link still says invalid registration code | 17:36 |
| |R | ah nice! telepathy haze and salut in the 2008 rtcomm beta :D ... anyone tried it? Now all we need is OTR added and the libpurple+gstreamer video support to come ;) | 17:37 |
| luron | does one need to 'log in' to one's shop account before entering code? | 17:37 |
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| ph|ber | anyone using canola? | 17:37 |
| Tak | hah, not holding my breath on the gstreamer video | 17:37 |
| luron | Sho_: Cord please give your codes a try | 17:38 |
| keesj | I woudl love skype video support | 17:38 |
| |R | hehe me neither, OTR would be nice enougth :) | 17:38 |
| ptman | keesj: who wouldn't | 17:38 |
| keesj | or some other moronOS compatible video calling solution | 17:38 |
| |R | that would be sooo nice to have all IM in the OS with OTR :D | 17:38 |
| Sho_ | luron: Half an hour ago it didn't work, and not for Cord either | 17:39 |
| luron | check your mail | 17:39 |
| Sho_ | luron: Neither the old code nor the new code | 17:39 |
| Cord | Sho_, luron: nope. | 17:39 |
| luron | ok same here | 17:39 |
| Sho_ | well at least we're not flukes then - guess Germany is down in total | 17:40 |
| Sho_ | well to be fair, the mail did say "are going to be" not "they work NOW" | 17:40 |
| Sho_ | "are going to work from today onward" might mean midnight ;) | 17:40 |
| luron | it's nice to have confirmation | 17:40 |
| Tak | |R: you running os2008? | 17:40 |
| |R | yep | 17:40 |
| Tak | feel like guinea-pigging for gngeo? | 17:41 |
| |R | haha sure :) | 17:41 |
| Cord | (we are four people here desperatly waiting to get the code active :-) | 17:41 |
| |R | hehe :) | 17:41 |
| Tak | seems to be having the same button issue that fceu did, at least judging from unique311's video | 17:41 |
| |R | it's like torture, every time there is a news it's a new delay haha ;-) | 17:41 |
| |R | oh... | 17:42 |
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| |R | though i don't have any roms :) | 17:42 |
| Tak | google can fix that | 17:42 |
| |R | is fceu/xmaeme for 2008 out yet? (i didn't have time to check) | 17:42 |
| Tak | you'll need a neogeo arcade bios as well | 17:42 |
| Tak | |R: yeah, in extras-devel | 17:42 |
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| |R | is repository.maemo.org fixed yet? :P | 17:43 |
| |R | (i had it disabled ;) | 17:43 |
| kbsingh | |R: one way to find out | 17:43 |
| |R | yep | 17:43 |
| |R | doing it right now :P | 17:43 |
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| kbsingh | if you drop the 'i' in the repository part, that will giv eyou most of the extras anyway | 17:43 |
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| kbsingh | s/giv eyou/give you/ | 17:44 |
| * |R installes xmaeme gngeo fceu ... fceu size mismatch doh! | 17:44 | |
| infobot | kbsingh meant: if you drop the 'i' in the repository part, that will give you most of the extras anyway | 17:44 |
| Tak | size mismatch? | 17:44 |
| |R | dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/gngeo_0.7maemo-1_armel.deb (--unpack): | 17:44 |
| |R | error setting ownership of `./media/mmc1/roms': Operation not permitted | 17:44 |
| kbsingh | eee...ya... | 17:44 |
| |R | Tak : yeah i get that all the time for repositoroy.maemo.org ... like this: | 17:44 |
| |R | Failed to fetch http://repository.maemo.org/extras-devel/pool/chinook/free/f/fceu/fceu_0.98.12-8_armel.deb Size mismatch | 17:44 |
| Tak | oh - so it's not just fceu? | 17:45 |
| kbsingh | yes, so did you try it with repostory.maemo.org ? ( note the missing 'i' ) | 17:45 |
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| keesj | need to eat more enlargement pils | 17:45 |
| |R | haha | 17:45 |
| |R | kbsingh : gimmie a sec, i may not have cloned all the extra extra devel etc ;) | 17:45 |
| kbsingh | humm i dont think devel is on repostory | 17:46 |
| kbsingh | unless they / someone did something in the last 2 days | 17:46 |
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| kbsingh | you might also need to apt-cache update | 17:46 |
| |R | of course :) | 17:47 |
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| |R | uhm no even from repostory i get a size mismatch for fceu... and gngeo is broken while installing because i don't have a mmc1/roms ... | 17:48 |
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| Tak | k, one sec | 17:48 |
| |R | (i guess i could create the folder and see but maybe this should be fixed as most people won't have that folder :) | 17:49 |
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| Tak | I'm not sure what the deal is with the fceu deb | 17:49 |
| Tak | first test sent | 17:52 |
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| |R | it installed :) | 17:56 |
| jga | for gngeo, you just have to create /mmc1/roms/neogeo | 17:56 |
| lardman | yay! ordered my N810 | 17:57 |
| lardman | curiously the code they just sent me was different to the original one | 17:57 |
| lardman | and they don't deliver on weekends :( | 17:57 |
| lardman | (at least my gf will be happy about that :) ) | 17:57 |
| keesj | lol | 17:57 |
| Tak | hah, fceu_0.98.12-9.tar.gz 666KB | 17:58 |
| Tak | jga: yeah, but people shouldn't have to do that | 17:58 |
| |R | lardman : same here (though i can't order yet ;) | 17:59 |
| giskard | lardman, same here | 17:59 |
| giskard | don't know why it changes | 17:59 |
| |R | Tak : can you send a good rom? :P | 17:59 |
| lardman | ah, I just read my mail backlog and saw that others were changed too | 17:59 |
| |R | i don't have anything to test it :) | 17:59 |
| Tak | yeah - do you have a bios? | 18:00 |
| |R | what do you mean? | 18:00 |
| |R | basic input output system? on the n800? :P | 18:00 |
| Tak | I'll take that as a "no" | 18:00 |
| * |R not very woken up ;) | 18:00 | |
| |R | hehe | 18:01 |
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| lardman | what do you think the chances are of a crc returning the same value for two different buffers ~ 3k bytes long? | 18:01 |
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| Tak | depends on the crc, I guess, but pretty small | 18:01 |
| lardman | the crc is the vorbis one | 18:02 |
| lardman | hmm | 18:02 |
| |R | if i wget this and dpkg -i, it works... go figure http://repository.maemo.org/extras-devel/pool/chinook/free/f/fceu/fceu_0.98.12-8_armel.deb | 18:02 |
| lardman | http://maemo.pastebin.com/m6b818337 - output of code running on x86 and N800/DSP | 18:03 |
| lardman | checksums are the same, and the same as expected in the file, but the first bytes of the ogg_references are different (except for the first one).... | 18:04 |
| sxpert | ah crap, I can't order from another country than my own to get a non-french keyboard | 18:04 |
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| sxpert | because I can't change the bloody delivery country | 18:08 |
| Aniruddha_NL | hi | 18:08 |
| Aniruddha_NL | how do I set the n800 back to it's factory defaults? | 18:08 |
| lardman | flash it | 18:08 |
| Aniruddha_NL | ah ok | 18:08 |
| Aniruddha_NL | that's the onmly way? | 18:08 |
| Tak | probably the easiest way | 18:09 |
| lardman | realistically yes, why? | 18:09 |
| luron | nice job lardman | 18:09 |
| lardman | luron: what's that? | 18:10 |
| Aniruddha_NL | Tak: lol | 18:10 |
| Aniruddha_NL | thanks :) | 18:10 |
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| luron | the debugging output on x86 vs ARM | 18:10 |
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| lardman | yeah, it's a bit of a pita though - the DSP output there is with all sizes passed around as 16bit words, I decided to change that to pass everything around as 8bit words and the output is the same except for the ogg_reference values and crc | 18:12 |
| lardman | I haven't the faintest idea why (yet) | 18:12 |
| lardman | need to add yet more dbg() statements | 18:12 |
| lardman | s/words/bytes (in both cases) | 18:13 |
| sxpert | hah/ | 18:14 |
| sxpert | well, guess I should be happy | 18:14 |
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| * Tak wait for r.m.o to update | 18:15 | |
| sxpert | wierd. coupon was for the entire price of the device... | 18:16 |
| sxpert | not that I'll complain :-) | 18:16 |
| lardman | sounds ideal :) | 18:17 |
| lardman | Mine was for price-£66 iirc | 18:17 |
| mat|work | sxpert: same here, -499 euros... | 18:17 |
| * lardman heads home to see if he can work out what's wrong with that code | 18:17 | |
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| sxpert | mat|work, that's for the pain of having to put up with an azerty keyboard :-) | 18:18 |
| * Tak hopes for 900E discount | 18:18 | |
| sxpert | Tak, rotfl | 18:18 |
| sxpert | Tak, you could buy all the accessories then | 18:19 |
| captainigloo | Thanks maemo and nokia guys :D | 18:19 |
| sxpert | for some reason the price is not identical over the euro zone. | 18:20 |
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| sxpert | of course, it could be that the non-taxed price is indeed identical | 18:21 |
| DeLe0n | sxpert: mat|work: hows that u r getting the n810 for free!??? | 18:21 |
| sxpert | DeLe0n, just typed in a coupon code :-) | 18:22 |
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| DeLe0n | -499 euros!?!!! so ur still getting money back ? | 18:22 |
| DeLe0n | hhahaha | 18:22 |
| sxpert | DeLe0n, the thing *is* 499 here | 18:22 |
| DeLe0n | aaah ok, where is that? i still don't know if i can order it from USA | 18:22 |
| sxpert | the difference probably lies in stupid VAT being different in your country | 18:23 |
| qos | the price differs from country to country ... | 18:23 |
| DeLe0n | yes i was watching that, in spain is 400 euros | 18:23 |
| Tak | maybe the US price will be lowered to account for our worthless currency | 18:23 |
| sxpert | the price in the US should be... 499/0.6765 == 737.6201034 USD | 18:24 |
| sxpert | Tak, hmm, no the price should be hiked | 18:25 |
| Tak | tomorrow it will be 900USD | 18:25 |
| sxpert | heh | 18:25 |
| Tak | next week it will be 3000 | 18:25 |
| Cord | sxpert: you're from switzerland? | 18:25 |
| sxpert | unlike stuff on the apple store where the a particular macbook is 1299 usd and 1249 eur | 18:25 |
| sxpert | Cord, I wish | 18:25 |
| Cord | sxpert: so where did you buy? | 18:26 |
| sxpert | fr | 18:26 |
| Cord | i c. and 499EUR + 499EUR discount? | 18:26 |
| Cord | s/+/-/ | 18:26 |
| infobot | Cord meant: i c. and 499EUR - 499EUR discount? | 18:26 |
| Sho_ | multiple frenchies have reported that full price discount bug, it seems | 18:26 |
| Sho_ | guess it's put in on a per-shop basis | 18:26 |
| sxpert | Sho_, what bug ? | 18:26 |
| sxpert | ;-) | 18:27 |
| Sho_ | sxpert: hehe ;) | 18:27 |
| Cord | let's see what the germans can do to in introducing bugs... | 18:27 |
| qos | i wish i will have this bug too :) | 18:27 |
| sxpert | Cord, correct | 18:27 |
| Sho_ | Cord: Perhaps they did introduce it, but then someone noticed and put it offline ;) | 18:27 |
| sxpert | too late... | 18:28 |
| Sho_ | since the German codes don't work so far | 18:28 |
| Cord | as i now have two discount codes... >:-) | 18:28 |
| qos | Sho_, sadly | 18:28 |
| sxpert | Cord, try both :-) | 18:28 |
| * Sho_ did try both | 18:28 | |
| Sho_ | no luck | 18:28 |
| Cord | sxpert: be sure. | 18:28 |
| sxpert | perhaps you'll get 2 devices :-) | 18:28 |
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| Sho_ | or the two cancel each other out into 0 ;) | 18:29 |
| * nelson tried this URL, but it didn't work: http://direct.nokia.com/countries.aspx?model=N810&country=US&add=true | 18:29 | |
| mat|work | sxpert: used your code btw? | 18:29 |
| * mat|work finally decided to try to order it anyway... | 18:29 | |
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| Khertan | Hi | 18:29 |
| mat|work | let's see what happens :) | 18:29 |
| sxpert | mat|work, worked for me | 18:29 |
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| nelson | mat|work: order it from the US? | 18:30 |
| DeLe0n | mat|work: u r in France also? | 18:30 |
| Khertan | do you have test your discount code ? Mine works ... but price isn't 99 Euros ... | 18:30 |
| Khertan | what is the price for you ? | 18:30 |
| sxpert | Khertan, is it 0 ? | 18:30 |
| mat|work | DeLe0n: yes | 18:30 |
| DeLe0n | Khertan: how much? | 18:30 |
| sxpert | mebbe they added some more because it's after xmas and they apologise for being late or something | 18:30 |
| Sho_ | sxpert: How much was your shipping, btw? | 18:31 |
| sxpert | 7.50 | 18:31 |
| Khertan | ohoh ... i ve just received a new email saying that my command isn't validated yet | 18:31 |
| sxpert | standard | 18:31 |
| Sho_ | sxpert: ah cool ... someone else said 23€ for them | 18:31 |
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| Sho_ | for standard, too | 18:31 |
| mazzen_ | sxpert: wich code worked for you? the old or the new one? | 18:31 |
| Khertan | is it a rating for the position in the maemo profile ? | 18:31 |
| sxpert | mazzen, the one in the mail with the ton of links | 18:32 |
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| mazzen_ | sxpert: k. thanks! | 18:32 |
| Khertan | for me it was the new code ... haven't see in the mail the new one ... and i ve test the old before which doen't work | 18:32 |
| luron | ". In case the code listed here is different than the one you received, this is the good one. | 18:32 |
| sxpert | ah just received an email | 18:32 |
| sxpert | sent by some "microsoft CDO" MUA | 18:33 |
| Khertan | euillez noter que ce reçu de commande constitue simplement une mise à jour du statut de votre commande et non une confirmation de commande. Sachez que votre commande peut faire l'objet d'un contrôle de sécurité supplémentaire avant d'être expédiée. | 18:33 |
| Khertan | oupssss | 18:33 |
| Sho_ | sxpert: What's the mail? Ordering trouble? | 18:33 |
| mat|work | meh, my mail server is late :p | 18:33 |
| sxpert | Sho_, nope; similar to what Khertan just pasted | 18:33 |
| Sho_ | Unfortunately I didn't have French in school | 18:33 |
| Sho_ | (But if Nokia starts sending mails in Latin I'm all set) | 18:34 |
| luron | http://direct.nokia.com/product.aspx?model=N810 Khertan, does that link work in france? | 18:34 |
| sxpert | "this is not an order confirmation, merely a statement that you did order. we will do some security checks on the order prior to validating it blah blah" | 18:34 |
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| Sho_ | interesting | 18:35 |
| Khertan | luron : no it doesn't work | 18:35 |
| Khertan | sho > and this part of this mail is in bold style | 18:35 |
| Khertan | luron> it s on the boutique.nokia.fr for france | 18:35 |
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| Sho_ | Interesting, so you guys who successfully ordered in France didn't use the direct. link but the national shop? | 18:36 |
| mat|work | it doesn't matter | 18:36 |
| Sho_ | Cord: Maybe we should try shop.nokia.de then | 18:36 |
| mat|work | the direct.nokia.com redirects you | 18:36 |
| mat|work | I tried it | 18:37 |
| Sho_ | ah | 18:37 |
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| Tak | holy crap, I uploaded a package 45min ago and r.m.o hasn't updated yet | 18:39 |
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| Khertan | the direct redirect you only if cookies isn't set ... | 18:39 |
| |R | Tak : what do i do with the bios files? :) | 18:39 |
| Khertan | look at this | 18:39 |
| Khertan | http://boutique.nokia.fr/nokia-fr/product.aspx?sku=3522636&culture=fr-FR#__anchor_ProductSelector | 18:39 |
| sxpert | that's because it's the same machine running the shop :-) | 18:39 |
| Khertan | then this http://direct.nokia.com/Product.aspx?model=N800 | 18:39 |
| Khertan | same machine ... but 101 Euros of differences in the price ! | 18:40 |
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| Tak | |R: put them somewhere, and point xmaeme there | 18:40 |
| |R | oh ok :) | 18:40 |
| * maddler just ordered his new N810! hooray! | 18:41 | |
| maddler | (.it) | 18:41 |
| mat|work | Khertan: "Momentanément non disponible" though :p | 18:42 |
| mazzen_ | maddler: who much is your discount? | 18:42 |
| |R | Tak : uhm, should i have a menu for that? a config file? | 18:43 |
| Tak | menu for which? | 18:43 |
| |R | bios selection | 18:43 |
| |R | oh i found it | 18:44 |
| Tak | You should have a button...ok | 18:44 |
| |R | in the user's home, sorry ;) | 18:44 |
| zoran | someone user | 18:44 |
| zoran | uh! | 18:44 |
| zoran | someone used wordnet as perl/python backend? | 18:44 |
| maddler | mazzen_: 360E | 18:45 |
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| * mazzen_ thinks about ordering the n810 in france ;-) | 18:46 | |
| |R | urhm... | 18:46 |
| mat|work | the orders will probably be canceled | 18:46 |
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| mazzen_ | just kidding :) | 18:47 |
| * mat|work just hopes they won't have to send new codes... meaning another 2 months delay :( | 18:47 | |
| Tak | should be able to update fceu from r.m.o now | 18:47 |
| |R | Tak: unable to load rom (with rompath /media/mmc2/ROMS/ngeo having both de game and all the bios files in that folder.. | 18:48 |
| |R | de -> the | 18:48 |
| Tak | using xmaeme or the command line? | 18:48 |
| |R | xmaeme | 18:48 |
| Tak | ok - did you point the bios there as well? | 18:49 |
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| |R | well in the ~/.gngeo/gngeorc file with the rompath variable above | 18:49 |
| |R | i don't have a menu for the bios in my xmaeme... | 18:49 |
| |R | (or button or ...) | 18:49 |
| |R | xmaeme 0.12-1 | 18:50 |
| Tak | isn't there a button below the rom selection, marked "Bios" ? | 18:50 |
| |R | there is "Bios" but no buttons | 18:50 |
| |R | i have : [browse for other ROMs] ... then BIOS... than a check button for "Play Sound" | 18:50 |
| |R | but no BIOS button :( | 18:50 |
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| scibot | D: | 18:51 |
| Tak | wth - does os2008 ship with a broken gtk? | 18:51 |
| |R | hehe maybe | 18:51 |
| vegai | no gtk is unbroken ... | 18:51 |
| Tak | well...substantially more broken than standard | 18:52 |
| vegai | ah, ok. | 18:52 |
| scibot | Is there any paint apps out for 2008 yet? | 18:52 |
| scibot | All the DS users are kicking ass with http://www.collectingsmiles.com/colors/ | 18:53 |
| |R | same result maximized or not | 18:53 |
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| tank-man | how do you play games in fceu? must be hard with the buttons | 18:53 |
| scibot | tank-man, Luckily the 4:3 leaves enough space on either end for buttons on the touchscreen | 18:54 |
| tank-man | i see | 18:54 |
| |R | Tak : gotta run, i'll test some more if needed later, cheers! :) | 18:55 |
| tank-man | do you know if anyone tried with the ps3 bluetooth controller? | 18:55 |
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| Tak | |R: cool, thanks | 18:56 |
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| Tak | I think people have used wii controllers | 18:57 |
| tank-man | with one of the tablets? | 18:58 |
| tank-man | or pc? | 18:58 |
| Tak | tablet | 18:59 |
| glass | dunno why not with tablets | 18:59 |
| glass | symbian devices, pc's, mac's..... | 18:59 |
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| |tbb| | does modest run automaticly in background and watching for mails, ive got /usr/bin/modest under ps aux but i havent started it after reboot | 19:07 |
| X-Fade_ | |tbb|: Yep.. checks mail every 10 minutes orso.. | 19:07 |
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| X-Fade_ | Or earlier if there is mail and you use imap IDLE | 19:08 |
| |tbb| | will it use the flash led thing and the popup on the left corner downer side | 19:08 |
| X-Fade_ | yep | 19:08 |
| |tbb| | nice | 19:09 |
| |tbb| | how can i replace the built in then | 19:09 |
| X-Fade_ | I have been using it for about 2 months now, works great. | 19:09 |
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| djcb | |tbb|, you can't really easily replace the stock email client | 19:12 |
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| |tbb| | anyone familar with gps_saver | 19:14 |
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| scibot | Who do I have to kill to get a paint program? :| | 19:16 |
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| Tak | there's already tuxpaint | 19:18 |
| bstock | hey, is flashing the n810 the same process as flashing the 770 as long as i use the flasher 3.0 app? | 19:20 |
| bstock | and an n810 image obvously | 19:20 |
| inz | yes | 19:21 |
| bstock | alright cool, thx | 19:21 |
| scibot | I'd be happy with tuxpaint if I had atleast 256 colours at my disposal. | 19:25 |
| Tak | are you female? | 19:25 |
| skibur | hello | 19:26 |
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| Tak | bonjour | 19:27 |
| skibur | Just got my N800 - OS2008 running KDE | 19:28 |
| skibur | looks nice | 19:28 |
| flip^ | does it work nice though? | 19:28 |
| skibur | yeah | 19:28 |
| skibur | good | 19:28 |
| |tbb| | how fast | 19:28 |
| skibur | hum... | 19:28 |
| skibur | under extra, there is an app called "KDE" | 19:29 |
| scibot | skibur, Does Krita work well? | 19:29 |
| skibur | when you launch it, it about 1 min to boot up | 19:29 |
| |tbb| | scibot what r u trying to do? | 19:29 |
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| skibur | once its up and running, each app takes about 6 seconds to run. Once its running, it smooth | 19:30 |
| skibur | :) | 19:30 |
| skibur | checking... | 19:30 |
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| skibur | need to boot my nokia | 19:31 |
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| scibot | |tbb|, Want to put up some competition with the guys doing stuff like this : http://colors.brombra.net/details/2106-helmeted_guy_by_wesburt.php :: On the DS | 19:32 |
| |tbb| | ice | 19:33 |
| |tbb| | nice | 19:33 |
| scibot | http://www.collectingsmiles.com/colors | 19:34 |
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| scibot | So hunting around for a half decent paint app. | 19:36 |
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| skibur | o :) lol Scibot I almost forgot. Yes it does | 19:39 |
| skibur | on it right now | 19:39 |
| dhdfoo | hey, what is the status of people loading their own code onto the DSP from Linux? | 19:40 |
| skibur | Not sure how well it works | 19:40 |
| dhdfoo | I remember some posts about it on maemo-developers from a while back | 19:40 |
| scibot | skibur, Can you do a curve with the paint tool? | 19:40 |
| scibot | Just a stroke, and see if it comes out jagged. | 19:40 |
| scibot | If it doesn't, tell me where I can get myself KDE. :D | 19:40 |
| skibur | ok | 19:41 |
| Tak | dhdfoo: lardman has made a lot of progress | 19:42 |
| scibot | As long as I can pick colours and put down strokes easily, I'm set. | 19:42 |
| bstock | is it just me or is the maemo.org site going pretty slow today | 19:43 |
| scibot | It's slow every day | 19:43 |
| bstock | heh, haven't used it much in the last like 6 months until i got my 810 today | 19:44 |
| rdorsch | hello, has anybody experience with "the cloud" hostspots and their 10 Euro flatrate? | 19:45 |
| skibur | :( Well, When I choose red, I think since there is no way to simulate a right click, it press both left and right click together when I use the stylus. So when I choose Red, the paint tools is using RED and WHITE together on a stroke. :( | 19:45 |
| rdorsch | if yes, are you using devicescape to connect to the cloud or are you doing that manually? | 19:45 |
| scibot | skibur, I wasn't aware right-click changed colours. | 19:46 |
| skibur | o | 19:47 |
| skibur | :) | 19:47 |
| dhdfoo | Tak: is that Simon Pickering? | 19:47 |
| Tak | according to his irc client, yes | 19:47 |
| dhdfoo | :) | 19:47 |
| dhdfoo | cool | 19:47 |
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| dhdfoo | I finally have some time to play with it I think | 19:49 |
| dhdfoo | basically I just want to do FFT on it | 19:49 |
| scibot | skibur, Is that the final verdict? | 19:49 |
| skibur | yeah | 19:50 |
| skibur | still needs work on it | 19:50 |
| skibur | all the other apps are great | 19:50 |
| skibur | Koffice doesn't support MS EXEL | 19:51 |
| skibur | AFAIK | 19:51 |
| Tak | dhdfoo: he's got his own code running on the dsp afaik; he's just having debugging issues due to dsp being much different from "normal" programming mindset | 19:51 |
| kulve | dhdfoo: http://maemo.org/community/wiki/dspprogramming/ | 19:51 |
| |tbb| | is it possible to define an alias for busybox which automaticly type some sentence for me like if i do mmm and enter it should replace mmm with /path/to/anywhere? | 19:52 |
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| inz | dhdfoo, are you gonna make singstar for maemo? | 19:53 |
| Tak | I would kill for a performant ultrastar on maemo | 19:54 |
| dhdfoo | inz: no I'm looking to accelerate pocketsphinx | 19:54 |
| dhdfoo | is the DSP on the N800/N810 a c54x or c55x? | 19:55 |
| dhdfoo | kulve: thank you! | 19:55 |
| jga | anybody tried to connect their tablet in OTG mode to an ipod? | 19:56 |
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| rdorsch | My system rebooted, so I missed the answers on the cloud question. Have there been any? | 20:20 |
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| Tak | rdorsch: no. | 20:21 |
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| rdorsch | Tak: thanks. | 20:42 |
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| bstock | anyone know the best way to get root on n810? | 20:48 |
| fugitivo | enabling rd mode? | 20:49 |
| bstock | hmm guess i can do that | 20:49 |
| hahlo | becomeroot? | 20:50 |
| bill2or3 | I just ssh root@localhost. | 20:50 |
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| |tbb| | how do i replace a string with another with bash like "foo foo" with "foo bar" | 20:52 |
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| bill2or3 | echo 'foo foo' |sed 's/foo$/bar/' | 20:53 |
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| inz | foo='foo foo'; echo ${foo/ foo/ bar} | 20:57 |
| Tak | echo 'foo foo' | awk '{ print $1" bar" }' | 21:00 |
| Cord | echo 'foo foo' |sed -e 's/foo$/bar/' | 21:01 |
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| kulve | bashism is bad, because it's not very portable.. | 21:08 |
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| Khertan | Hi ! | 21:21 |
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| locutu1 | Hi | 21:23 |
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| locutu1 | Is all software wich is installable on os2008 available over proogrammanager? | 21:25 |
| locutu1 | Or can i find some other software on some websites? | 21:27 |
| kulve | locutu1: for some stuff you need to find the .install that adds the repo to application manager. Then you can use it to install the app | 21:29 |
| locutu1 | Do you know some sites where i can get them | 21:31 |
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| Tak | http://downloads.maemo.org | 21:36 |
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| locutu1 | Thx. I know that site already, but i think there are not so many apps | 21:43 |
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| |tbb| | how can i change the account connector applet by script like OnlineAvailable NotAvailable ... | 21:44 |
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| locutu1 | Someone should port the vlc-player to os2008 ;) | 21:45 |
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| AD-N770 | locutu1: I tried to port vlc to the 770 but I abandoned this project. Currently I think that extending gstreamer is more interesting. | 21:47 |
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| locutu1 | Why can | 21:51 |
| locutu1 | I can i not find gstreamerr | 21:52 |
| locutu1 | It is not onn the maemmo page | 21:52 |
| AD-N770 | locutu1: gstreamer is the multimedia framework | 21:52 |
| locutu1 | Do i have to install it | 21:53 |
| locutu1 | ? | 21:54 |
| AD-N770 | locutu1: the media player is written on top of gstreamer, you have it | 21:55 |
| locutu1 | Ok | 21:55 |
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| drwx | hi, i'm in france and my discount code works now, I just buy my N800 7.50€ (499€ is the réel price). but I dont understand in the first mail it was 99€, no? | 21:57 |
| drwx | how many did you buy you N810? | 21:59 |
| locutu1 | I bought mine for 250 | 21:59 |
| drwx | sorry I talk about the N810 | 22:00 |
| AD-N770 | in spain I ordered mine today | 22:00 |
| drwx | N810? | 22:00 |
| AD-N770 | 100€ + 7€ for delivery | 22:00 |
| drwx | me 7€ for delivery and that's all | 22:00 |
| AD-N770 | N810 with discount code | 22:00 |
| |tbb| | #!/bin/sh latarr=(48815575 48816727 48818316 48817016) | 22:01 |
| |tbb| | end up with error -> 2: Syntax error: "(" unexpected | 22:02 |
| |tbb| | #!/bin/bash latarr=(48815575 48816727 48818316 48817016) | 22:02 |
| |tbb| | second works, how can i declare arrays with sh | 22:02 |
| drwx | yes | 22:02 |
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| |tbb| | drwx, thas a good deal | 22:03 |
| * Tak shrugs @ sh | 22:03 | |
| drwx | sure | 22:03 |
| inz | |tbb|, you don't | 22:03 |
| |tbb| | means i cant do arrays with sh? | 22:04 |
| kulve | Tak: why don't you use some proper language if you are doing something more complex? | 22:04 |
| Tak | uhh | 22:04 |
| inz | kulve, tab-completion bites? | 22:04 |
| * Tak panics | 22:04 | |
| kulve | hups | 22:05 |
| kulve | |tbb|: why don't you use some proper language if you are doing something more complex? | 22:05 |
| |tbb| | im allready finished now just this array broke my script | 22:06 |
| kulve | people use bash way too often. There are many environments without bash | 22:06 |
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| Tak | e.g. ubuntu | 22:07 |
| * Tak grumbles about ubuntu and dash | 22:07 | |
| inz | ubuntu does have bash, but not as sh | 22:08 |
| inz | And having a fast shell as default sh makes sense | 22:08 |
| inz | (fast as in fast to load) | 22:08 |
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| Tak | s/And(.*)fast(.*)( [a-z]+$)/But\1broken\2no\3/ | 22:10 |
| |tbb| | inz could you show me a way to get the same result with sh? | 22:10 |
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| inz | |tbb|, I dunno what you're doing | 22:10 |
| inz | Tak, define broken? | 22:11 |
| inz | Tak, broken == not bash? | 22:11 |
| Tak | broken == dash :-P | 22:11 |
| inz | Tak, does it break standards or how is it broken? | 22:11 |
| |tbb| | want to get the numbers into a variable like i do it in bash with #!/bin/bash latarr=(48815575 48816727 48818316 48817016) | 22:11 |
| inz | |tbb|, I would guess the closest match would be to put them space separated into a string var | 22:12 |
| Tak | it at least behaves differently than bash in sh-compatibility mode | 22:13 |
| inz | Tak, does that mean it's not POSIX-compliant? | 22:13 |
| inz | Tak, at least the debian package description for dash says: ...is a POSIX compliant shell... | 22:15 |
| Tak | I'm not sure whether dash is broken or bash's compatibility mode is broken | 22:15 |
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| inz | Tak, I would guess that either bash's compatibility is broken, or the script | 22:15 |
| JussiP | Bash enables certain non-sh extensions even when run as sh. | 22:15 |
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| Tak | example: http://pastie.caboo.se/135077 | 22:17 |
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| EruditeHermit | hi, does anyone know where I can get abiword for maemo 4.0? | 22:21 |
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| inz | Tak, what's wrong with it w/ dash? | 22:22 |
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| Tak | $ diff -u blah.h.sh blah.h.dash | wc -l: 91 | 22:24 |
| lcuk | so have i landed in the right place? | 22:25 |
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| inz | Tak: bash bleh.sh blah.glade blah.h.bash; dash bleh.sh blah.glade blah.h.dash; diff blah.h.dash blah.h.bash | wc -l == 0 | 22:26 |
| lcuk | coooooooooey, is anyone alive in here? | 22:26 |
| Tak | lcuk: also http://www.mibbit.com | 22:26 |
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| Tak | inz: try with http://tinyurl.com/youhcf ;-) | 22:29 |
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| |tbb| | tak did you see pm | 22:29 |
| scibot | Ow my hand | 22:29 |
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| skibur | I still can't believe that the Life of a "Hacker" can be found in the Bible. | 22:30 |
| drwx | ? | 22:30 |
| |tbb| | oh wasnt identified | 22:30 |
| lcuk | jedus hacked his battery and came back 3 days after they had given up | 22:31 |
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| * scibot tries to upload an image made in sketch | 22:32 | |
| inz | Tak, yeah, now I get 58 | 22:33 |
| * Tak nods | 22:33 | |
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| Tak | I didn't investigate which one breaks the standard, or if this situation is even covered by the standard; I just fixed my script/makefile to explicitly use bash | 22:34 |
| skibur | like this verse | 22:34 |
| inz | Tak, alter the script to do /bin/echo instead of echo, and the results will match | 22:34 |
| scibot | hand cramp | 22:34 |
| inz | Tak, i.e. the bash echo-builtin is the one to blame | 22:34 |
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| skibur | "He then answered, 'Whether He is a sinner, I do not know; one thing I do know, that though I was blind, now I see.'" | 22:34 |
| Tak | skibur: You can't beat Ezekiel 23:20. | 22:35 |
| skibur | John Chapter 9 Verse 25 = Reverse Engineering :P | 22:35 |
| lcuk | when jesus was giving his sermon on the mount do you think ppl in the audience with n81bc models could get a gps signal? | 22:37 |
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| Tak | actually, I get the same result with /bin/echo | 22:37 |
| Tak | which makes sense, because the echo manpage says that -E is the default, not -e | 22:38 |
| scibot | http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/7752/sketchsketchfc7.png | 22:38 |
| * skibur is 0_0 Ezekiel 23:20 | 22:38 | |
| Tak | rofl! | 22:38 |
| scibot | There we go | 22:38 |
| scibot | Maemo Sketch sucks. | 22:38 |
| Tak | skibur: you drew me, but why am I surrounded by ashes? | 22:39 |
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| skibur | lol | 22:39 |
| Tak | wtf, I even get [ck] confused when tab-completing | 22:39 |
| skibur | lol lcuk | 22:40 |
| lcuk | *will have to port his little drawing proggy to linux | 22:40 |
| lcuk | *will also have to learn how to do actions | 22:40 |
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| Tak | /me | 22:40 |
| lcuk | ta :) | 22:40 |
| scibot | /me actions | 22:40 |
| * lcuk tries it | 22:41 | |
| * lcuk thanks you both | 22:41 | |
| scibot | Sweet | 22:41 |
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| Aniruddha_NL | is there a good rs reader for the n800? | 22:41 |
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| skibur | here is another verse dealing with Hacker/Cracker | 22:43 |
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| scibot | lcuk, Seen colors! for the DS? | 22:44 |
| skibur | "Ask and it shall be given to you; seek, and you shall find; knock, and it shall be opened to you. For everyone who asks receives, and he who seeks finds, and to him who knocks it shall be opened." | 22:44 |
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| skibur | Matthew 7:7 = Using Nmap!!! | 22:45 |
| lcuk | no, but I now have a youtube up | 22:45 |
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| scibot | ? | 22:46 |
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| lcuk | im watching a yt vid of it now - it looks sweet :) | 22:47 |
| scibot | http://colors.brombra.net/details/2274-colors_slot14_by_Harbadakus.php | 22:47 |
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| lcuk | sci - no source tho.. | 22:52 |
| scibot | Yeah bummer | 22:52 |
| lcuk | if its technically built with the libs he mentions shouldn't we be able to ermmmm push him? | 22:53 |
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| jga | is there any way to log the location in maemo mapper? | 22:54 |
| * scibot shrugs | 22:55 | |
| jga | I just want to store the gps location to use on google earth | 22:55 |
| scibot | You should aq | 22:56 |
| scibot | You should ask if it's possible to port a ds application | 22:56 |
| lcuk | its probably easier just to add the nice bits from there into another app over here | 22:57 |
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| sibbe | oh nice.. http://repository.maemo.org/pool/os2008/free/source/k/kernel-source-rx-34/ the actual kernel source | 22:59 |
| lcuk | fianlly... | 23:00 |
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| sibbe | http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/maemo/developers/32486 | 23:02 |
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| lcuk | am i right in thinking that i can tweak and play and rebuild an entire flash image with this? | 23:04 |
| Mousey | anybody got freeciv working on an n810? | 23:05 |
| Mousey | (or wesnoth?) | 23:05 |
| * lcuk has been trying to grasp this whole thing for the last few weeks but unable to advance without updated source | 23:05 | |
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| sibbe | my precious custom kernel compiled fine, but i don't have miniusb cable with me now.. damn. just the microusb for n810, but i have n800 with me now | 23:08 |
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| Aniruddha_NL | Mousey: I tried isntaling wesnoth on 0s2008 but failed :( | 23:09 |
| * Mousey cries!! | 23:12 | |
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| Aniruddha_NL | Mousey: i am gonna try manual install | 23:13 |
| Aniruddha_NL | http://blackax.net/Pub/wesnoth/dists/bora/user/binary-armel/ | 23:13 |
| lcuk | is it just the bindings for '08 that breaks things, or are there substantial problems with porting? | 23:13 |
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| * Mousey investgates | 23:14 | |
| sibbe | great, secondary sd-slot seems to work now with custom kernel | 23:15 |
| Aniruddha_NL | *downloading wesnoth now* | 23:15 |
| lcuk | sibbe - how did you get it onto your device without a cable? binary text entry? | 23:15 |
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| sibbe | lcuk, found one... but yeah i was about to transfer it via bluetooth and dd it to mtd block, or something | 23:20 |
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| scibot | Anyone know how to pixel doubling through Xsp python? (pygame) | 23:28 |
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| * lcuk has read lots about pixel doubling but still knows nothing :( | 23:28 | |
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| lcuk | wasnt proper doubling only for the 770 | 23:29 |
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| scibot | I just want to do stuff in pygame =/ | 23:29 |
| lcuk | im in the same boat... | 23:29 |
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| acydlord | i just want my n810, but apparently nokia doesnt like the united states anymore | 23:31 |
| lcuk | i think you can do it if you are in proper dsl | 23:32 |
| lcuk | sdl* | 23:32 |
| scibot | Yep theres an example in the wiki | 23:32 |
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| scibot | No idea how to translate it to python though | 23:33 |
| lcuk | also from the page in the wiki "NOTE This currently only applies to the 770." | 23:33 |
| lcuk | dunno if its out of date | 23:33 |
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| scibot | We need answers. =/ | 23:34 |
| lcuk | with you 100%, but I would prefer the powervr core more... | 23:35 |
| lcuk | later on i will (re)try to get c example up and running and if its possible ill then take a look at pygame and see about adding xsppixeldoubling call into it | 23:37 |
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| * lcuk is waiting for his missus to come off majong before gettin his device back | 23:37 | |
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| scibot | Sweet, it'd be great if we could get a rking example app in the wiki | 23:39 |
| scibot | working* | 23:39 |
| sibbe | hmm now there seems to be sources for hildon-application-manager, hildon-control-panel.. were those available earlier? | 23:39 |
| lcuk | i gather we are both singing from the same sheet: http://maemo.org/community/wiki/GameDevelopment | 23:40 |
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| scibot | Yep | 23:43 |
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| lcuk | good, then i shall see where the convoluted process leads me to | 23:43 |
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| * lcuk never thought he would say that visual studio dev for pocket pc was nicer.... (at least to start) | 23:44 | |
| Chris12349 | This might not be the right channel, but I've upgraded my n800 to os 2008. I've installed openssh. I can connect to my n800 from my pc but it is unusably slow. It seems to be transmitting in short bursts. Anyone have any ideas? | 23:44 |
| lcuk | chris, was the connection flakey before the upgrade | 23:45 |
| scibot | lcuk, At worst we could probably just plug in a C module somewhere. | 23:45 |
| lcuk | sci - had that thought, but i doubt hardware scaling is available | 23:46 |
| Chris12349 | lcuk: Nope, worked fine. | 23:46 |
| Chris12349 | It's wierd I'm not losing a connection. If I type "cd /home" about 10 seconds later I'll see it on my screen, Another 10 seconds and I'll see my prompt change | 23:47 |
| lcuk | chris, is the 800 cpu pegged way up - do local apps respond fine? | 23:47 |
| Sho_ | Cord: Any news on the coupon front? | 23:48 |
| Chris12349 | cpu is good, I've got an app that monitors that. Local apps also respond fine. Browsing works well. however I do see slowdowns when download from repos. But I can't complain about slow servers :) | 23:49 |
| lcuk | dunno then | 23:49 |
| * lcuk shrugs | 23:49 | |
| Chris12349 | lcuk: I'll see if maybe ethereal can provide some answers | 23:50 |
| Chris12349 | thanks anyways | 23:50 |
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| unique311 | Tak, Plan to fix the onscreen buttons bug, gngeo. | 23:56 |
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| * lcuk damns nokia for not utilising the powervr core | 23:59 | |
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