IRC log of #maemo for Monday, 2007-06-11

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jonnylambtheril: AFAIK, no.00:01
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theriljonnylamb: OK, thanks00:02
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Fatallol, I have 770 unread items in my planet.maemo.org feed :D00:51
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unique311so 1 more day till an update...01:06
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SeRi@unique311 I wouldnt hold my breath01:15
unique311lol01:15
SeRi:P01:16
jonnylambUpdate?01:16
SeRiMan I hate when my job becomes work....01:16
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mattsqzanyone have an idea how 2007he is coming along02:03
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rwhitbymattsqz: what's the 'he' stand for?02:08
Sho_rwhitby: "hacker edition"02:11
Sho_rwhitby: unsupported backport to the 770, as i understand it02:11
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rwhitbyah, ok.  I thought it might be a nokia update.02:13
Sho_rwhitby: the HE is released by Nokia, I think02:13
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rwhitbyhttps://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel-announce/2007-May/000289.html <- is this a maemo port to Intel MIDs?03:02
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N800anyone using motion detector?04:10
N800besides me04:11
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trevarth1nN800: What's motion detector?04:46
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N800a camera app04:47
N800that has a feature where you set it, and any change in the pixels in the room it snaps a picture...04:47
N800really cool spy stuff...04:47
N800but its snaps so many pictures...04:48
N800not stable..04:48
N800it has a live mode...04:48
N800but i'm not sure what that does...04:48
N800i tried viewing it via my desktop on port 8080 with the n800 ip...that didn't work...04:49
N800early version of motion...live mode did work..04:49
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mattsqzanyone know whats up with this04:50
mattsqzSending and flashing rootfs image (77028 kB)...04:50
mattsqz100% (77028 of 77028 kB, avg. 626 kB/s)04:50
mattsqzFinishing flashing... done04:50
mattsqzSending request 0x83 failed: Cannot send after transport endpoint shutdown04:50
unique311trevarth1n, its in the garage...04:51
trevarth1nah. my camera is sloooooooow on my n800. Almost unusable slow.04:52
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unique311why is that?04:52
mattsqzis that an error i should worry about, or is that a result of the reboot04:52
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mattsqzdoes anybody know if the 52mhz mmc kernel will work with 2007he?05:54
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mattsqzhooray openbox works on my 77009:35
mattsqznow muck about with kde ;)09:35
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jga23is there a way to create a shortcut to a python script in the application menu?09:56
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melmothjga23, http://maemo.org/development/documentation/how-tos/3-x/python_maemo_3.x_howto.html10:01
melmothsee desktop integration10:01
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mattsqzbzip2 gives errors, crap10:13
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mattsqzim just gonna mount the ext2 on my mmc and unzip to that10:24
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Gathajais there an easy way to fix sudoers? Or do I need to install all again10:29
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AD-N770good morning11:08
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konttorimorning!11:29
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sbaturzioAloha!11:31
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konttorihey, is nokia going to release the new firmware today, as rumored?12:08
konttoriIf so, at what time?12:08
koenkonttori: it isn't friday :)12:09
konttorireally? I thought it was supposed to be on the 11th. (well rumored to be).12:09
konttoriMight remember incorrectly though.12:09
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konttoriAhh.. got the impression from here: http://www.internettablettalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=6569&highlight=firmware12:11
koenafaik nokia always releases on friday12:12
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axx_Hi all. I have a Nokia 770 and my ISP requires a PPPoE connection over my configured WiFi connection12:15
axx_what are the possibilities to set up a PPPoE connection?12:15
melmothkonttori, how long did it take between the mail you posted to have upload access on extra, and the first reply you got ?12:16
konttoriI haven't gotten the access to extra as far as I remember.12:17
konttoriThe extra upload process seemed so complicated that I decided it wasn't worth it.12:17
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rwhitbykonttori: did you see the work on a2dp reported here yesterday?12:19
rwhitbyhttp://www.guardiani.us/index.php/N800_custom_packages#Bluetooth_ALSA12:19
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konttoriI did see in summary that it seems to be working.12:20
rwhitbyit would be a great addition to ukmp to be able to stream mono podcasts into my existing mono bluetooth headset :-)12:20
rwhitby(using sco and the headset profile I guess)12:20
konttoriIndeed, it would rock. But I think I'll wait just a while before lunging forward to the ALSA world.12:20
konttoriAs next firmware might well support headset profiles out of the box.12:21
axx_or can you tell me some web page, where I can read about configuring the PPPoE?12:21
rwhitbykonttori: no worries - as long as I've wedged that into the back of your mind I'm happy :-)12:22
konttoriBy the way, I'll release ukmp 1.2 on Wednesday. It'll have quite many improvements.12:22
konttoricool. thanks!12:22
rwhitbyno, thank you!12:23
konttoricool. 690 people downloaded ukmp 1.0, 476 have downloaded 1.1.12:23
konttoriMakes me think on how many devices there are out there.12:24
konttoriAnd how to reach those people who have n800, but do not read internettablettalk nor planet maemo.12:25
konttoriIt would be great if nokia included extras as a default repository.12:26
konttori(and had python there as default)12:26
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gla55it would be great if the default repos had most of the stuff that really is available..12:28
rwhitbyheh - that would require developers agreeing on putting stuff in a single repo location ...12:29
rwhitbyinstead of just hosting .deb files on their private web space12:29
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gla55or someone at nokia to copy those debs to their repos12:29
konttoriI was trying to get Nokia to allow the downloads.maemo.org to support direct upload to extras repo.12:29
rwhitbyno, source always has to be alongside the .deb, or the .deb bitrots.12:29
konttoriImagine how easy it would be to update your library / application by just uploading it to extras repo.12:30
konttoridownloads.maemo.org could then automatically create install file for the deb.12:30
X-Fadekonttori: There is a api for updating now..12:30
X-Fadehttp://maemo.org/downloads/__ais/help/org.openpsa.products/api.html12:31
X-FadeIt is available since Friday ;)12:31
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konttorihow do you use that?12:32
X-FadeAt least you can keep the catalog updated that way..12:32
X-Fadekonttori: Just http-post..12:32
X-Fadehttp://maemo.org/downloads/__ais/help/org.openpsa.products/api_product_update.html12:32
konttoribut that is basically the same as downloads.maemo.org upload form12:33
konttoriright?12:33
konttoriso, it won't add the application to extras repository, right?12:34
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X-FadeYeah, but I think you can now add this to your release package script..12:34
X-FadeSo it makes it a little easier..12:34
konttoriWell, I prefer releasing manually.12:35
konttoriIt's not like I would be releasing every night.12:35
X-FadeHehe ;)12:36
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SeRiany body in?13:17
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konttoriSeRi: 173 people seem to be in. Just ask if you need answers.13:55
unique311where's my update nokia13:56
SeRihey waz up Konttori!13:58
SeRiHold your breath unique you might get it! :)13:59
konttoriunique311: koen pointed out earlier that nokia always releases on friday.13:59
konttoriSeRi: not much. working on 1.2 of UKMP.13:59
koen'usually'13:59
konttoriSeRi: and you?13:59
unique311maybe that got tired of being predictable..14:00
unique311and decide monday is a good day..14:00
SeRic00l... Nothing much ether just another day fixing the kids PC... corrupted reg...14:00
SeRilol @ unique14:00
unique311i got this app compile...called camserv....14:00
unique311maemo does v4l correct..or is it vl4?14:01
SeRic00l mind if I take a look?14:01
konttoriI don't think any company want's to launch on Monday. If you would, then people would have to work on Sunday to finalise it.14:01
unique311camserv sucks...14:02
unique311will not stream..14:02
unique311can't figure it out..14:02
unique311it compile with no errors...14:02
dpb_konttori: unless they finalise it on friday but waits to release it on monday..14:02
konttoriWhich doesn't make sense, as you might as well launch it on friday14:03
unique311go to divshare.org and search for group N80014:03
SeRikonttori: did you saw that there is A2DP support available? maybe you can be the first to release it on a media player14:03
unique311its located there14:03
konttoriI did notice it.14:03
unique311how about i call nokia up, and demand a update14:04
unique311that should be fun..14:04
konttoriBut I won't support it immediately. as 1. I don't have such a headset. 2. Nokia might have similar functionality in next firmware14:04
SeRiahhh That make since14:04
unique311link for A2DP14:04
unique311i have a  bluetooth headset14:04
SeRihttp://www.guardiani.us/index.php/N800_custom_packages#Bluetooth_ALSA14:05
unique311trevarth1n was working on that also...14:05
unique311it is his project14:05
SeRiI saw it in my logs :)14:06
SeRilong day 2day.... I might start my N800 face mod14:07
unique311thinking the same..14:07
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unique311gonna collect my airbrush kit from my buddy...14:07
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unique311i have to do something with it..14:08
unique311its just been sitting around lately...14:08
SeRiI am going tonight to get my tatto retouch so I better get it all done today... my leg will be hurting for a few weeks14:08
SeRishould be fun....14:11
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SeRiman wtf damn computer wont cd the damn xp cd14:21
SeRiman this is why I sat away from windows14:21
SeRistay*14:21
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unique311anybody figure out the issue with the camserv i compiled..14:44
unique311guessing right now its because v4l is calling the camera app..and thats not allowed...gstreamer v4l is supposed to call the camera...and thats not in my resume.14:45
unique311seri/14:45
unique311?14:45
SeRiwaz up14:45
unique311did ya try the camserv?14:46
SeRinot yet sorry got in to fixing the kids computer the damn thing wont boot due to corrupted reg14:46
unique311k14:46
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fish_re15:23
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Sho_Anyone happen to know whether Canola has DAPP Support, btw?15:43
Sho_*DAAP15:43
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fatal-has anybody recompiled the xserver? I'm a bit puzzled what packages I need to be able to recompile it16:08
inzDoesn't debian/control tell you the build-dependencies?16:10
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fatal-hmm. apparently yes.16:12
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kulverun "dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot"16:16
kulveit will list all the missing build deps"16:16
kulve-"16:16
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Milhouse2planet.maemo.org down? not loading here in london17:05
Milhouse2maemo.org seems ok17:05
Milhouse2hmmm http 500 error accessing bugzilla - interanl server error. maemo.ord in meltdown it would appear17:05
X-FadeYeah, it is dead for me too.17:06
X-FadeProbably because they are uploading the new firmware :D17:07
Milhouse2lol17:07
* melmoth feels like it s christmass eve17:09
melmothi wonder if my poney will be there....17:09
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Milhouse2planet seems to be back (but slow) and bugzilla still down17:14
Milhouse2bugzilla back :)17:17
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pupnikyaay17:18
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jga23anybody know when support for python applet building will come?17:39
konttorinext firmware probably17:40
Milhouse2you mean today! ;)17:40
jga23which was rumored for today right?17:40
Milhouse2emphasis on "rumour" I think :)17:40
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SeRilol17:49
fer_hi17:50
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SeRiwaz up17:50
SeRibRb17:50
fer_does anyone know if it's possible to get usb host working on the n800?17:50
fer_(like it did on the 770)17:51
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_Shurik_I believe it is, people were asking about it on internettablettalk.com17:52
_Shurik_I have no need for that so never researched that item17:52
fer_ok, will have to check that out17:52
_Shurik_just too messy with +5v etc...17:53
_Shurik_what are you trying to connect to it?17:53
fer_just curious..17:53
_Shurik_ic17:53
fer_I mean, I just wanted to know if it was possible17:54
_Shurik_pretty sure it is17:54
fer_ok, have to go now, thanks17:54
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_Shurik_cya17:54
dragornlook on the mailing list archives18:00
dragornit's been done, it requires some cable hacking and a custom kernel18:00
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Milhouse2holy shit - has bugzilla has gone again...? what mickey mouse infrastructure18:04
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zj__Does anyone know if there's a JDK available for the 770 or 800?19:41
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||cwgoogle says http://www.jalimo.org/wiki/doku.php?id=packages&DokuWiki=f9274003f476889364de0c6bb96529fa19:46
||cwlooks like that mostly uses a hildonized java-gnome19:48
zj__thanks19:48
zj__any experience with it?19:48
||cwnope19:49
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Hyperion|mobileis there any way get ping in terminal20:19
Hyperion|mobileie what app gives it to you?20:19
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florianre20:40
pnare20:46
Knowledgewhat does re mean again?20:46
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mgedminKnowledge: it's short for "hello again", afaik20:48
pnaheh, you are the knowledge20:48
pnatell you20:48
mgedminhi -> rehi -> re20:48
pna;)20:49
Knowledgemgedmin: ...hmm, thanks for the explanation.20:49
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Milhouse2planet.maemo.org gone AWOL again?20:58
Milhouse2Sooooooo slow20:59
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abMilhouse2: fast for me right now21:12
Milhouse2A bit better here now but still slow21:13
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Milhouse2ab where are you? planet is still dog arse slow in London21:25
abMilhouse2: Russia21:25
Milhouse2And bugzilla too21:25
Milhouse2nuts :(21:25
Milhouse2maemo need to get the hamster turning his wheel a bit faster21:26
mgedminrun, hamster, run!21:29
melmoththis is the famous webhamster21:31
Milhouse2I think he just died21:32
Milhouse2RIP maemo hammy21:32
abI have some caching improvement for maemo.org but didn't finish it yet. Ferencz was eager to use it :-)21:33
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Milhouse2Apple release Safari on Windaz... why?21:35
Milhouse2Still got major Planet performance problems - anyone from Maemo in the house? Feed the hamster!!21:37
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Milhouse2Safari on Win download link if anyone is interested: http://www.apple.com/safari/download/21:50
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Mkononihi all.  i just got a BT keytboard abd was wondering if it was possible to assign applications to keyboard shortcuts?22:57
Mkononiobviously still getting used to the keyboard :)22:57
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pupnikMkononi: possibly you could with xmodmap23:28
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MkononiThanks pupnik, i'll look into it.23:37
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