IRC log of #maemo for Sunday, 2007-06-10

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trevarthanAlright folks. Guess what? I've got A2DP working on my n800! And it doesn't skip! Check it out: http://www.guardiani.us/index.php/N800_custom_packages#Bluetooth_ALSA00:02
trevarthanNow someone just needs to write an open source canola-like application that will allow us to pick music in a convenient way, and allow us to pick our output device (alsa a2dp vs. gst headphones or speaker).00:03
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rwhitbytrevarthan: sweet.  is there any possibilty of streaming podcasts through mono bt headsets via the headset or handsfree profiles?00:52
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edt_n800l am really starting to like my n800.01:44
edt_n800lots of 3rd party programs really add to the device01:46
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unique311question....01:46
unique311running synergyS on the NIT should allow it to be use as a drawing pad?01:47
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edtwhere can I find the url to use for google for maemo mapper?02:40
edtor how can I determine it?02:40
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pupnikhehe looking at samsung q1 running winblows03:02
pupniksflowww03:02
pupnikwell not too bad but sheez.  arm+maemo does quite well for the power consumption and price03:02
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unique311whats up pupnik03:07
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ChupiI have an SDL question if anybody's here06:19
ChupiThe SDL docs seem to say that I'll get one SDL_KEYDOWN event when I press a key and one SDL_KEYUP when it's released...06:21
Chupibut I06:21
Chupi...but I'm getting many keydowns when I hold a key, and (more annoyingly) alternating keydown/keyup when I hold the key and drag06:22
Chupidrag on the screen, I mean...06:22
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pupnikhi unique31107:13
pupniklots of back pain.  no work getting done07:13
unique311u always MIA now07:15
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unique311what other country u know can make a funny adult swim cartoon about the president...08:18
unique311making fun of him at that...08:18
unique311america is great...08:18
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mk8Hi to all ...08:44
trevarthan rwhitby: yeah, I'm pretty sure the headset profile would work just fine. I'll test it out tomorrow.08:45
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rwhitbytrevarthan: that will be a killer application for listening to mono podcasts through a normal mono bluetooth headset08:47
rwhitbywe need to get this added to ukmp!08:48
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trevarthanwhat is ukmp?09:00
rwhitbyUK media player09:01
rwhitbythe author was in here (and may still be - I forget his nick)09:02
rwhitbyhttps://garage.maemo.org/projects/ukmp/09:02
rwhitbyit's early in it's life, and the author seems open to new ideas :-)09:03
rwhitbykontorri was his nick09:03
rwhitby~seen kontorri09:04
infobotrwhitby: i haven't seen 'kontorri'09:04
`0660it's konttori09:04
rwhitby~seen konttori09:04
rwhitbythx09:05
infobotkonttori <n=konttori@a88-114-91-19.elisa-laajakaista.fi> was last seen on IRC in channel #maemo, 2d 9h 25m 21s ago, saying: 'in osx and ubuntu'.09:05
`0660maybe he's on vacation or something. he's been quite active on this channel09:07
trevarthanok. installed ukmp. it's rough, but i think it'll work. i wanted to use python anyway. easy development.09:15
trevarthani'll read through the code when i get a chance and add in headset support.09:16
trevarthanbut first i want to make ukmp use my cover.jpg files when they exist. some of those covers it downloaded are bogus.09:17
trevarthanvery nice starting point though. very cool.09:17
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trevarthanwell, i'm catching some sleep. night folks.09:28
rwhitbynight trevarthan09:30
rwhitbythx for the bluetooth-alsa work09:31
rwhitbyhmm - ukmp having a directory with a space in it in it's svn repository is a bit annoying.09:35
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pupnikgive feedback09:52
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tigertmost unix tools not coping with spaces in filenames are also fairly broken :)11:20
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rwhitbytigert: fully agree. that's why it's only annoying and not a bug :-)12:35
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tigertyeah12:43
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keesjI saw that in macOS it was possible to paste files names in the shell containing spaces12:45
keesjI guess it's more a shell problem12:45
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rwhitbyit's not a real problem, you just escape the space with a backslash in the shell.12:46
keesjthere are even bigger problems like having file names starting with -12:47
keesjor "--" as file name or "*"12:47
keesjI think the shell programming language should just be a little smarter and not so much depend on string parsing12:49
keesjon the web they solved this problem with urlencoding12:52
zuhAnd in the shell the special characters are escaped with '\'s12:53
zuhOr the names delimited with ''12:54
tigertkeesj: it works on linux too12:56
tigertit pastes the filenames in '' quotes12:57
keesjtigert: so I must know it was a file name13:01
tigertwell yeah13:03
tigertbut I mean, if you drag a file to the terminal13:03
tigertit does the quotation for you for all paths13:03
tigertwhich is handy. but yeah, the shell is not any smarter13:03
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makihow can i get the maemo platform on a linux host up and running14:50
jonnylambmaki: Do you mean the Hildon desktop?14:51
makiyep14:54
makii mean to run maemo on qemu or ...14:54
makihttp://bp0.blogger.com/_XExY_OuNVv4/RmlbqNF1fOI/AAAAAAAAAJs/B6FiTkjSuXw/s1600-h/sardine-alpha.png14:55
makilike in here14:56
jonnylambEither run Sardine..14:56
jonnylamb..or read the HildonDesktopPortability page on the maemo wiki.14:57
makiok14:57
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jonnylambThe former is a live CD IIRC. The latter actually installs all the hildon/osso libs to your computer.14:57
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pupnikfreedom !!!15:39
gla55wah15:40
pupnikhi gla5515:43
gla55you're free from what15:43
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pupnikIt's a call to arms, really.16:32
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trevarthanso... does everything use gstreamer in maemo?16:56
kulveafaik, no16:56
kulvemplayer doesn't16:56
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trevarthanin other words, would i be able to make an alsa gstreamer sink for my a2dp headset and everything would automatically use it?16:58
kulveif you would be able to make an alsa gstreamer sink, then yes16:59
trevarthankulve: actually, mplayer does. it uses the gst ao by default. type 'mplayer -ao help' to see.17:00
kulvebut the device (afaik) doesn't have real alsa driver as everything goes through the dsp, so making the a2dp thing might be hard..17:00
kulvetrevarthan: ok17:00
trevarthana2dp is already working. i just need to make a standard gst alsa sink, i guess. http://www.guardiani.us/index.php/N800_custom_packages#Bluetooth_ALSA17:02
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kulveI think there's alsa sink already..17:04
kulvegarage seems to be too slow again..17:05
kulvehttps://garage.maemo.org/projects/dsp-alsa/17:05
kulvemaybe that one. Hard to say, since garage doesn't say anything to me17:06
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trevarthani was told yesterday that the dsp-alsa project is a placeholder  for the alsa support that ships with the n800 by default. that's why there are no files. it's already on the device. not sure if there is an alsa gst sink though.17:10
devI've here an alsaspdif:  alsaspdifsink: S/PDIF ALSA audiosink on my N80017:18
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florianhi all19:27
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Blacksitoxhi :)19:35
florianhi Blacksitox19:36
Blacksitoxflorian, how are you ?19:37
* florian is fine and starts to catch up what he missed in the past two weeks19:38
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Blacksitoxflorian, you speak spanish ?19:41
florianBlacksitox: no, sorry19:41
Blacksitoxok19:41
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pupnikla cuchuracha19:41
Blacksitoxnot problem19:41
pupnikciao amigos19:42
Blacksitoxpupnik, tu hablas espaƱol ?19:43
pupniknada19:43
pupnikbuenos noches :)19:43
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trevarthanis there any way to make the hildon scrollbars thicker?19:57
trevarthanmore thumb friendly?19:57
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melmothTo people having access on upload to extra repository. how long did it take for garage@maemo.org to reply to your initial request ?21:52
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keesjmelmoth: 5 days21:58
keesjmelmoth: that was for a garage project not a upload only account21:58
melmothoh. You were unlucky, i dont remember waiting that much for the garage opening.21:59
melmothwell, let s say i m experiencing a karma balance sort of event then :)21:59
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therilHello. I managed to get my N800 to a reboot loop by removing the sdk-theme. Is there any way apart from flashing to rescue it?23:59
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