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| unique311 | pupnik, would it be easy to get full screen going on basiliskII if i compiled with sdl video | 00:07 |
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| unique311 | ? | 00:07 |
| unique311 | i have the option...already tried...but when i do so...fullscreen goes is black... | 00:08 |
| unique311 | it starts in full screen when i compile with sdl video and audio, but screen is black at full | 00:08 |
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| pupnik | unique311: make sure the video mode is getting set to 16 bpp | 00:24 |
| unique311 | k | 00:24 |
| kelvar | hello is there a site w/ instructions to install gnumeric onto the nokia 770? | 00:27 |
| unique311 | when i compile with sdl support..the mouse doesn't work | 00:30 |
| lodxcol | is it possible to compile things on the 770? | 00:31 |
| unique311 | scratchbox | 00:31 |
| unique311 | maemo.org developer link | 00:31 |
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| lodxcol | huh? scratchbox? | 00:35 |
| unique311 | yeah | 00:36 |
| unique311 | you install scratchbox on a linux box or download the vmware image and compile stuff for your 770 or 800 | 00:37 |
| unique311 | maemo.org should help ya with everything... | 00:37 |
| lodxcol | ah. Well I only have a Windows box. :P | 00:37 |
| unique311 | and the people in here with the rest | 00:37 |
| unique311 | dl vmware | 00:37 |
| unique311 | install vmware | 00:37 |
| Tak | http://maemo.org/development/documentation/tutorials/Maemo_tutorial_bora.html | 00:38 |
| unique311 | google maemo scratchbox vm image | 00:38 |
| unique311 | i'm using the vmware version | 00:38 |
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| unique311 | does mplayer do mp4 | 03:14 |
| Pio | yeah | 03:15 |
| Pio | ..oh on maemo though.... im not sure | 03:15 |
| unique311 | on maemo? | 03:15 |
| unique311 | ok | 03:16 |
| Pio | didnt notice what channel this was heh | 03:16 |
| unique311 | yeah mplayer on maemo | 03:16 |
| unique311 | lol | 03:16 |
| unique311 | wat about the ipod extension | 03:16 |
| unique311 | gonna try..if it does..save me alot of work | 03:16 |
| unique311 | brb | 03:18 |
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| neostrider | hello folks | 04:44 |
| neostrider | its me or garage is really a confusing thing? | 04:44 |
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| geoffeg | When I try to install Evince from maemo downloads application manager loads and then nothing happens. | 05:41 |
| neostrider | geoffeg , whats your device? | 05:42 |
| geoffeg | 770 | 05:42 |
| neostrider | ok | 05:42 |
| neostrider | running the lastest version of the system? | 05:42 |
| geoffeg | yep, i just did the upgrade to the latest 2006 tonight | 05:42 |
| neostrider | ok | 05:43 |
| neostrider | sometimes, mine would complain "invalid operation" or something like that | 05:43 |
| neostrider | did yours complained? | 05:43 |
| geoffeg | no, no complaint | 05:43 |
| neostrider | do you have Xterm? | 05:43 |
| geoffeg | i do | 05:44 |
| neostrider | hum...actually..I dont know what is the unix name of the application manager,so forget about it... | 05:45 |
| neostrider | lets try a different thing | 05:45 |
| neostrider | can you reflash again? | 05:45 |
| neostrider | last time I reflashed, I had some issues, so I had to do it again | 05:45 |
| geoffeg | uhh, i'd rather not? :) | 05:45 |
| neostrider | why? | 05:45 |
| neostrider | so easy | 05:45 |
| neostrider | (ok, I wet my pants off =-P) | 05:45 |
| geoffeg | ugh, i just started playin around and getting it to where i want! :) | 05:45 |
| geoffeg | i'll try that later if i can't get it installed after a reboot or something :) | 05:47 |
| neostrider | its always a good plan | 05:48 |
| neostrider | 770 is unix...and unix is all about files | 05:48 |
| neostrider | maybe some file will be fixed by the system | 05:48 |
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| geoffeg | what's the difference betwen mistral and bora? | 05:54 |
| geoffeg | one is 2006 and the other 07? | 05:54 |
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| neostrider | mistral is the first 2006 edition | 05:57 |
| neostrider | scirocco is the 2st | 05:58 |
| neostrider | and gregalle , the lastest | 05:58 |
| neostrider | bora is for n800 | 05:58 |
| neostrider | and gregalle is the 770 equivalent | 05:58 |
| neostrider | as it indeed came after bora | 05:58 |
| geoffeg | thanks | 05:58 |
| neostrider | it absorbs some of the stuff made for it | 05:58 |
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| neostrider | night! | 05:59 |
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| geoffeg | it would appear that i can't install evince on the latest OS.. :( | 06:04 |
| geoffeg | latest 2006 OS that is | 06:05 |
| geoffeg | dpkg: error processing evince_0.5.0-1indt1_arm.deb (--install): package architecture (arm) does not match system (armel) | 06:07 |
| geoffeg | yay got the right repo and now it works! | 06:13 |
| * geoffeg dances | 06:13 | |
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| pupnik_ | Did you ever walk into a room and think "what did i come in here for"? | 07:17 |
| pupnik_ | I just opened a new browser window and forgot what i wanted to search for. | 07:17 |
| * pupnik_ makes coffee | 07:17 | |
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| Pupnik | Reptile Palace Orchestra - What did I come in here for? http://www.reptilepalaceorchestra.com/_tunes/Comeinherefore22.mp3 | 07:27 |
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| unique311 | mplayer dev, i love you man.... | 07:39 |
| unique311 | keep up the good work | 07:39 |
| Pupnik | hey unique311, what's new? | 07:42 |
| Pupnik | the maemo porter is ssvb (Siarhei S.) | 07:44 |
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| unique311 | k | 08:07 |
| unique311 | this is a 2 part message.... | 08:08 |
| unique311 | first watch this video of a skit done by dave chappelle of a white family with the last name niggar | 08:08 |
| unique311 | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VNqQtPE-1Fw | 08:08 |
| unique311 | btw, offffffffffff ttttttttttttopiccccccccc | 08:09 |
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| Pupnik | chapelle is funny | 08:10 |
| unique311 | now this skit done, and im thinking a bite off of a great skit...gone wrong, i love japan, but this one is just stupid. | 08:11 |
| unique311 | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-19ioGniZ88 | 08:11 |
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| unique311 | chappelle is funny | 08:12 |
| unique311 | dl some stuff right now... | 08:13 |
| unique311 | hopefully mplayer plays mp4's | 08:13 |
| unique311 | crossing my fingers | 08:13 |
| pahartik | unique311: Back when I tried AAC audio within MPEG-4 container, it did not work well | 08:19 |
| Pupnik | well humor often doesn't translate well across cultural boundaries. the japanese skit should be seen as satire on how US pop culture permeates to places it really shouldn't and has people acting silly | 08:20 |
| Pupnik | so it's just as silly for german kids to be acting like 'boyz from da hood' | 08:20 |
| Pupnik | or japanese families as well | 08:20 |
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| Hyperion|n800 | finally xchat is out :D | 08:36 |
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| Pupnik | new version? | 08:37 |
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| keesj | jolly good morning | 10:12 |
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| maddler | morning all... | 10:28 |
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| Jaffa | Morning, all | 10:41 |
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| * timeless wonders what magic is required to convince apt-get install that configuring packages would be a good idea :( | 11:16 | |
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| keesj | postinstall scripts tend to work | 11:29 |
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| cosmo_ | http://hardware.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=07/05/08/137238 | 11:38 |
| gla55 | x86's though? | 11:40 |
| cosmo_ | " The chip will be just one-seventh the size of normal chips, and consume only 10% of the power of existing processor. " | 11:41 |
| cosmo_ | doesn't sound like x86 | 11:41 |
| Pupnik | what does the 926ej-s consume? | 11:42 |
| gla55 | cosmo: the "announced prototype" article sounds though | 11:42 |
| gla55 | cosmo: however, the mention of ubuntu in that article is just "has struck deals with Ubuntu creator Canonical and China's Red Flag Linux distribution." | 11:43 |
| Pupnik | i pray to see the x86 architecture die a long overdue, richly deserved death | 11:43 |
| gla55 | and that silverthrorne would be a single chip evolution of their current umpc plat.. | 11:44 |
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| timeless | keesj: i think you mean postinstall scripts tend to fail, and a black cat needs to be sacrificed in order to change that (an xserver available..) | 11:53 |
| shreyas | hey, i am trying to build the hildon framework on a pepper pad 3, i want to build it outside scratchbox and maemo enivronment, i saw this link http://maemo.org/community/wiki/HildonDesktopPortability. | 11:54 |
| shreyas | what should i essential checkout from svn (version), i am on this page right now https://stage.maemo.org/svn/maemo/projects/haf/ | 11:54 |
| shreyas | am i supposed to checkout trunk from there? | 11:54 |
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| Pupnik | sorry shreyas, it seems nobody knows the answer to that. hang around and maybe someone will later | 12:08 |
| gla55 | shreyas: hows pepper pad 3 otherwise, in general? nice device? | 12:10 |
| shreyas | gla55, decent device, does multimedia and browsing well, nothing else is very impressive | 12:11 |
| shreyas | ofcourse being a x86 device makes it easier to build stuff on | 12:11 |
| timeless | shreyas: there's nothing wrong w/ trying and then looking for answers if it fails :) | 12:11 |
| timeless | that path seems perfectly reasonable (checking google or whatever for svn commit logs could tell you if it's an active path) | 12:11 |
| shreyas | timeless, well, yes. Just did not want to waste 20 mins downloading sources and then figure out i need a different branch :-) | 12:12 |
| shreyas | but sure, you are right. I already started checking out gtk | 12:12 |
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| Pupnik | heh kulve i like kohina.org too :P | 12:21 |
| kulve | :) | 12:21 |
| Pupnik | 1462168 Kohina_Radio-Old_school_game_and_demo_music | 12:22 |
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| Pupnik | kulve, know of anybody who is able to implement libvorbisidec on dsp? :) | 12:23 |
| OlliK | Hi, all | 12:23 |
| OlliK | Has anyone figured out any easy way to make 770 to pair with P910i? | 12:23 |
| kulve | Pupnik: no. That would be nice though :) | 12:24 |
| kulve | I think it wouldn't even be a major thing, as some unoptimized version would do just fine.. | 12:24 |
| Pupnik | send me back in time 18 years and i will study dsp with a fresh brain | 12:25 |
| OlliK | I succeeded making the 770 to complete the pairing with 2006.39.14 OS once, but when I upgraded it to 49-2, the pairing doesn't work anymore | 12:28 |
| OlliK | Now it doesn't even work when I downgraded back to 39-14 | 12:28 |
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| OlliK | with original 2005 OS it didn't work either | 12:29 |
| Pupnik | OlliK: i think there are bluetooth diagnostics tools available, but i have no experience | 12:29 |
| OlliK | I found this: http://maemo.org/pipermail/maemo-users/2006-March/000840.html and then I upgraded my P910i to latest firmware, didn't help | 12:29 |
| Pupnik | OlliK: see http://maemo.org/pipermail/maemo-users/2006-March/000840.html | 12:30 |
| Pupnik | hah | 12:30 |
| OlliK | And then I found this: http://www.electrichamster.net/ but that part "how do I become root" seems to need WLAN connection and I don't have WLAN on my PC | 12:31 |
| kulve | if you have ssh running, you can try e.g. "ssh root@localhost" | 12:32 |
| OlliK | The strangest thing is that the pairing worked once... | 12:32 |
| OlliK | kulve: I don't have WLAN on my PC | 12:32 |
| kulve | did I mention anything about network connections..? | 12:33 |
| Pupnik | ssh from xterm on nokia, to localhost (nokia) (not through wlan) | 12:33 |
| OlliK | oh, i c | 12:33 |
| OlliK | I'll try that | 12:33 |
| OlliK | thanks | 12:35 |
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| tigert | also REMEMBER TO CHANGE the passwd for root | 12:36 |
| tigert | if you install ssh | 12:37 |
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| AD-N770 | There's any reason for not release osso-dsp-headers on maemo3 when was released on maemo1? | 12:38 |
| Pupnik | maybe n800 hardware has different license restrictions with manufacturers | 12:41 |
| Pupnik | 16GB SDHC cards out... <jealous> | 12:42 |
| OlliK | Is there any other xterm for 770 than "osso xterm" ? | 12:43 |
| Pupnik | there is an advanced version | 12:43 |
| OlliK | The basic version will be enough for now, just for me to get root access and the bluetooth pairing with P910i working | 12:44 |
| keesj | OlliK: the maemo-hackers version rulez bigtime. for example it's easy to hit control-c. That is why i consider that version "essential" :p | 12:47 |
| osfameron | where is that one? | 12:47 |
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| tigert | OlliK: maemo-hackers.org | 12:49 |
| tigert | it also installs bitstream vera sans mono | 12:49 |
| tigert | which *rocks* | 12:49 |
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| tigert | http://maemo-hackers.org/wiki/OssoXterm | 12:49 |
| tigert | this is maintained and hacked by inz | 12:49 |
| Pupnik | yes that font is great | 12:49 |
| Pupnik | courier can go to /dev/null | 12:50 |
| tigert | especially on the device screen | 12:50 |
| Pupnik | absolutely no comparison :) | 12:51 |
| OlliK | should I remove the normal version of osso-xterm before installing the advanced ? | 12:54 |
| OlliK | or can they co-exist? | 12:54 |
| Pupnik | don't know, i'd remove and get advanced | 12:55 |
| keesj | I just installed it and it worked | 12:55 |
| keesj | whlie(! installed) { try different }; | 12:56 |
| OlliK | http://maemo.org/community/wiki/ApplicationManagerRedPillMode <-- my 770 doesn't have application catalogue, does it mean application manager? | 12:57 |
| cosmo_ | yes | 12:58 |
| OlliK | 'click "New", enter "matrix" into the "Web Address" field, click "Cancel".' | 12:59 |
| OlliK | I don't have any New either, if it means "Install new applications" button, I don't have any field where I can enter this "matrix" word | 12:59 |
| sKaBoy | OlliK, application manager, menu, tools, application catalogue | 13:02 |
| OlliK | sKaBoy: got it, thanks | 13:02 |
| sKaBoy | np | 13:02 |
| OlliK | Does anyone have the needed files for osso-xterm advanced? | 13:02 |
| OlliK | the links in http://maemo-hackers.org/wiki/OssoXterm lead to nowhere (files are not there anymore) | 13:03 |
| OlliK | I need the files under "no network install" because I can't install it through the network (as I dont have WLAN or phone connection working yet) | 13:03 |
| Pupnik | OlliK, contact project admins here: https://garage.maemo.org/projects/osso-xterm/ | 13:05 |
| tigert | or msg inz | 13:05 |
| Pupnik | they should put the binary up on garage | 13:06 |
| Veggen | t | 13:08 |
| OlliK | Yap, it also requires some dependencies which are needed | 13:10 |
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| OlliK | I guess I can try to do it with the normal osso-xterm anyway, it just needed some ctrl+button pressings which I don't know if I can do with it | 13:10 |
| Pupnik | you should get wifi :) | 13:13 |
| OlliK | It doesn't work anymore :( | 13:13 |
| OlliK | when I try to type "rootme" as the password, it doesn't accept it anymore | 13:13 |
| Pupnik | uh oh | 13:14 |
| OlliK | I didn't change anything in the first time I logged in as root.. Does it change root password automatically? | 13:14 |
| tigert | no | 13:14 |
| tigert | maybe someone else did? :) | 13:14 |
| tigert | are you sure you ssh as root@localhost? | 13:15 |
| tigert | and not "ssh localhost"? | 13:15 |
| tigert | since the default user is "user" | 13:15 |
| OlliK | I'm using dbclient | 13:15 |
| OlliK | ah.. stupid me, there was a mistake in the dbclient-line, I was trying to log in as something different :) | 13:15 |
| tigert | yeah | 13:16 |
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| OlliK | I guess I don't have any way to save/exit with vi if I use the default osso-xterm | 13:19 |
| OlliK | I can't press shift or ctrl | 13:19 |
| Pupnik | capital ZZ to save+exit | 13:20 |
| Pupnik | no shift? | 13:20 |
| OlliK | capital ZZ just inserts the letters ZZ to the editor | 13:20 |
| OlliK | no esc key | 13:20 |
| |tbb| | tigert: where to find that bitstream font | 13:21 |
| dpb_ | the esc key is a HW key.. | 13:21 |
| Pupnik | yes esc key is circle-arrow under dpad | 13:21 |
| OlliK | oh.. didn't realize that one. it works, thanks | 13:22 |
| |tbb| | forget it , i allready got that font installed | 13:22 |
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| OlliK | /dev/rfcomm: No such file or directory | 13:32 |
| Pupnik | my 770 has no /dev/rfcomm with it2007 hacker edition either | 13:33 |
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| Pupnik | hah score another one for me! tecnoballz arkanoid clone running on 770 | 14:01 |
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| OlliK | can I put mistral repositories if I'm using newer OS? | 14:04 |
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| Pupnik | i am running a few apps from mistral on the 770 it2007 hacker edition (bora repos) | 14:05 |
| Pupnik | but not everything works right | 14:05 |
| Pupnik | a lot of things do actually | 14:05 |
| OlliK | will there be a conflict if I add Garage repository two times, one for mistral one for gregale? | 14:06 |
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| Pupnik | not sure, i think it will just pick the newer app | 14:06 |
| kulve | yeah, it takes the newest version (based on the package version number) | 14:08 |
| kulve | but it's a bit risky to mix repos. Many parts work OK but you should pay attention what gets installed | 14:09 |
| OlliK | does gregale have all the same apps as mistral in Maemo Garage? | 14:09 |
| OlliK | if yes, then I don't need to put the mistral version there at all | 14:10 |
| kulve | I think they don't.. | 14:10 |
| kulve | or to be more precise: I would guess that they don't. | 14:10 |
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| Pupnik | tecnoballz initial playable port for 770/800 here http://pupnik.de/tecnoballz770.html | 14:37 |
| Pupnik | give it a whirl please and let me know if it works - esp on n800 | 14:37 |
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| b0unc3 | hello | 14:42 |
| OlliK | hi | 14:43 |
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| Pupnik | that's port number 17 for me :) | 14:52 |
| Pupnik | well, WIP-wise :P | 14:52 |
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| Pupnik | I still can't log-in to maemo.org with my newly created account, or with my old account. | 15:06 |
| kulve | I can log to garage, but not to maemo.org | 15:06 |
| Pupnik | same here | 15:07 |
| kulve | should the account be the same? | 15:07 |
| kulve | I've never managed to log in to maemo.org (to add stuff to downloads) | 15:07 |
| Pupnik | i have heard both yes and no | 15:07 |
| Pupnik | same here! | 15:07 |
| kulve | nice.. | 15:07 |
| Pupnik | For me, this is a more important issue than perfecting the site layout | 15:08 |
| Pupnik | i can't file/view bugs, can't add my apps to the application catalog WIP page | 15:09 |
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| Pupnik | hah the cnet review of the 770 is the worst piece of reporting i've seen in a long time | 15:46 |
| Pupnik | oh nm it's not all bad, but the overall rating totally misses the mark | 15:48 |
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| keesj | Pupnik: i was funny , it was cnet rating is worse , but the users rating it pretty good | 15:51 |
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| Pupnik | yeah i think the user rating is quite fair | 15:57 |
| Pupnik | a review reveals as much about the reviewer's experience, insight and expectations as it does product qualities | 15:59 |
| jku_ | I remember they acknowledge that later in a category in their year-end top-lists "Worst product that our readers loved" | 15:59 |
| jku_ | or something in that vein | 16:00 |
| Pupnik | one thing we need to work on as a community is making the effort to get apps polished up and integrated into the larger repositories | 16:01 |
| Pupnik | if a program/port isn't visible to a casual user, then it doesn't exist for that user | 16:02 |
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| gla55 | what i'd like.. would be a .. "all essential stuff" flash / mmc images | 16:03 |
| gla55 | for 770.. | 16:03 |
| gla55 | there's so much stuff i should put to my 770 before my st petersburg trip (some nokia tech days..) | 16:03 |
| gla55 | problem is that i don't use it too much while at home | 16:03 |
| Pupnik | can you define 'essential'? | 16:04 |
| gla55 | i'm within 3 meters of a pc always at home unless i'm in the wc | 16:04 |
| Pupnik | :) | 16:04 |
| gla55 | well, for example, what do you have? ebook readers, mplayer, few games, some of the better apps | 16:04 |
| Veggen | Getting everything into the same community repository would help a lot. | 16:04 |
| gla55 | ssh, terminals | 16:05 |
| gla55 | irssi, gaim and stuff | 16:05 |
| gla55 | yeah same repo would help a lot | 16:05 |
| gla55 | just clickety click then | 16:05 |
| Pupnik | yeah but my list would be different than most... and space on the 770 is limited | 16:05 |
| Veggen | gla55: Then perhaps make meta-packages. | 16:05 |
| kulve | I think the .install -files helps a lot too | 16:05 |
| gla55 | yeah they help | 16:05 |
| kulve | sombody should just make a page where they are all listed nicely | 16:05 |
| jku_ | Pupnik, you can't file bugs? | 16:05 |
| gla55 | but most users, including myself, aren't even up to date on what apps are essential :) | 16:05 |
| jku_ | bugzilla account is still separate from garage, do you have a problem with that too? | 16:06 |
| Veggen | gla55: that *will* vary from user to user? | 16:06 |
| jku_ | just asking so I can file one for you, if it's true... | 16:06 |
| gla55 | veggen: well, there's stuff that most people end up installing i think | 16:06 |
| kulve | that's why a single page including the .install files would be nice. Everybody could just click the ones they want | 16:06 |
| gla55 | vegge: ssh, xterm, ebook reader | 16:07 |
| kulve | and try those that sounds interesting | 16:07 |
| gla55 | yeah a single page would be good | 16:07 |
| Veggen | Better to make a maemo-multimedia-apps, maemo-reader-apps, maemo-board-games, packages. | 16:07 |
| kulve | too bloat | 16:07 |
| Veggen | kulve: I meant as meta-packages. That depended on the others. | 16:07 |
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| Veggen | kulve: could perhaps work. | 16:08 |
| keesj | - About maemo Bugzilla, the tool itself. We have upgraded the software and integrated the design to the rest of the site. We have basically closed the access to non-registered users to avoid spammers even if we agree it's not the best option. We will integrate soon the users so same login will apply to the core website, Garage and bugzilla. But there is more. | 16:08 |
| mgedmin | kulve: I've made a single page with links to .install files for myself | 16:08 |
| kulve | yeah, too bloat. I really don't want to install "all multimedia apps" etc. I want the one that I've found to be the best | 16:08 |
| mgedmin | I imagine everyone would want different packages on their tablets | 16:08 |
| Veggen | kulve: true, but I think it's better than an image with "all essential apps" already in ;) | 16:08 |
| kulve | Veggen: yes :) | 16:09 |
| keesj | this is what quim has to say | 16:09 |
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| keesj | just get rid of bugzilla, it has bad karma | 16:10 |
| Pupnik | jku_ i made a new account on bugzilla and it doesn't work. also note how slow this is: https://maemo.org/bugzilla/createaccount.cgi | 16:10 |
| kulve | yeah, post bugs here | 16:10 |
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| keesj | yes , or just write them down on a piece of papper :) | 16:11 |
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| keesj | I had "better" response on bugs filed the maemo-mindgard garage project btw | 16:12 |
| jku_ | Pupnik, I can file a bug for you (on the bugzilla account creation issue) if you give some more details | 16:12 |
| jku_ | as in, what exactly failed | 16:12 |
| mgedmin | http://xkcd.com/c258.html | 16:13 |
| mgedmin | "Dear God, I'd like to file a bug report" | 16:13 |
| jku_ | Is that any better? I assume you need to have an account in $RELIGION to access that issue tracking system? | 16:16 |
| Pupnik | jku: entered new account+email on bugzilla/createaccount.cgi. got confirmation message (from 'garage'). tried logging in - failure. tried creating account again - "account exists". | 16:16 |
| jku_ | nice... I'll file. | 16:17 |
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| Pupnik | now testing new account generation again and maemo.org is timing out on 'Create Bugzilla Account' sumbission (10 minutes and counting) | 16:18 |
| jku_ | if bugzilla ever wakes up, that is | 16:18 |
| jku_ | (it times out on everything) | 16:19 |
| inz | mgedmin, I thought he was going to talk about the holes that the planes made to the wtc towers... | 16:19 |
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| keesj | inz: do you believe that the wtc really existed? | 16:20 |
| mgedmin | it was actually filmed on a set in mars | 16:20 |
| keesj | lol | 16:21 |
| inz | keesj, I've seen _a_ wtc, but was too late to see _the_ WTC, so I'm somewhat doubtful | 16:21 |
| inz | keesj, don't have any proof for or against, so my opininon is absolutely strong maybe | 16:22 |
| Pupnik | on the xkcd comic, he again makes a good point | 16:22 |
| inz | Pup, the rant was too long, didn't even bother reading it ;) | 16:23 |
| Pupnik | the best ones are terser | 16:23 |
| inz | Pup, but I knew what he was about to say... | 16:24 |
| inz | Pup, (and just read it to make sure I was correct ;) | 16:24 |
| Pupnik | i will resist posting xckd links now | 16:26 |
| inz | tis sometimes hard | 16:27 |
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| lardman | No, been using that for ages | 16:46 |
| lardman | Just installed the python imaging pack, and comix | 16:46 |
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| lardman | Python Imaging Library to be exact, comix doesn't seem to like the version of gtk we have | 16:47 |
| lardman | Does disabling the metacrawler have any negative effects? | 16:49 |
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| |tbb| | anyone have tried frogpad keyboard? | 16:53 |
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| __Nikos__ | does anyone knows if asynchronous sockets are available on the platform? | 16:54 |
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| Pupnik | i'll get a frogpad when somebody makes a display device that looks like a pair of sunglasses | 17:02 |
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| unique311 | wheres the kde guy? | 17:03 |
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| dragorn | __Nikos__: On maemo? Of course they are, it's a linux system. | 17:06 |
| __Nikos__ | i am trying to use the SDL_net library and it seems that it only uses blocking sockets | 17:08 |
| keesj | __Nikos__ there are some docs on using SDL_net and maemo on the wiki , did you happen to look at them? | 17:10 |
| unique311 | http://www.engadget.com/2007/04/16/intels-mid-umpcs-so-long-xp-vista-hello-linux/ | 17:10 |
| unique311 | i want that on my n800 | 17:10 |
| unique311 | dual boot that is.. | 17:10 |
| keesj | "prosumers" nice! | 17:11 |
| unique311 | http://www.engadget.com/gallery/intels-mid-umpc-so-long-xp-vista-hello-linux/214485/ | 17:12 |
| unique311 | its maemo | 17:12 |
| unique311 | so does that mean the apps they come out for the MID UMPC will be compatible with with maemos OS | 17:13 |
| __Nikos__ | keesj I have see a small tutorial on maemo.org and some examples. But everything seems to to be in a write socket/ read socket fashion. Not wait for an asynchronos read socket event | 17:13 |
| keesj | Funny I would have expected SDL_net to behave the same on other all platforms , what makes it maemo specifiq? | 17:16 |
| __Nikos__ | I don't believe that it is different on maemo. I don't think however that it supports asynchronous sockets as i haven't seen using polling or a dispatcher and callbacks in any of the examples. And i have seen many of them... | 17:19 |
| robtaylor | unique311: to some degree, yes.though of course not binary-compatible | 17:22 |
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| unique311 | should be ways around that.... | 17:25 |
| unique311 | open source rocks.. | 17:25 |
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| unique311 | some mod to the src should have apps for the mid umpc running on the n800 | 17:25 |
| unique311 | without the need to hildon...i hope.. | 17:25 |
| unique311 | on another note | 17:26 |
| unique311 | this looks interesting | 17:26 |
| unique311 | http://www.tweako.com/customizing_the_nokia_n800_and_770_or_how_to_configure_the_device_for_your_purposes | 17:26 |
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| mgedmin | a strange article | 17:27 |
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| mgedmin | why use gconf to enable swapping when there's a control panel applet that does that? | 17:28 |
| keesj | I understand why nokia would like strong "upstream" open source project. I find it harder to understand why they would like intel to use the same software | 17:28 |
| mgedmin | unless this is an instruction for creating a shell script to reproduce all the customizations after a reflash | 17:28 |
| * mgedmin too lazy to actually read the article | 17:28 | |
| unique311 | You need a newly flashed device to work with, like the 770 or N800 | 17:30 |
| Pupnik | maybe intel would use the free stuff then try to bundle propriety stuff without opening the source | 17:31 |
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| Pupnik | anybody know if their flashy animated gui candy is closed source? | 17:33 |
| unique311 | sucks..don't kill the mood for me.. | 17:34 |
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| unique311 | disrepectful competition....770 vs. sony Mylo....... | 17:37 |
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| Pupnik | unique311 - i got tecnoballz arkanoid clone running today... - dl here http://pupnik.de/tecnoballz770.html | 17:42 |
| Pupnik | if you want to test it on n800 and let me know if it works -- needs libmikmod... start it with ./tecnoballz --full for fullscreen | 17:42 |
| unique311 | tc tlk | 17:44 |
| Pupnik | ? | 17:44 |
| unique311 | brainfart | 17:45 |
| Pupnik | i wish the Neo1973 used maemo instead of a new linux distro | 17:50 |
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| gla55 | i wish they had some decent hw in it | 17:52 |
| gla55 | phonewise | 17:52 |
| inz | I wish I had the money to even care... | 17:53 |
| koen | Pupnik: and have tons of binary only parts? No thank you | 17:57 |
| Pupnik | koen to what are you referring? | 17:58 |
| Pupnik | oh the phone running maemo | 17:58 |
| koen | "i wish the Neo1973 used maemo instead of a new linux distro" | 17:58 |
| koen | and it isn't a new distro | 17:58 |
| koen | Openembedded is older than maemo | 17:59 |
| Pupnik | ah i thought openmoko was new | 17:59 |
| jku_ | it is | 17:59 |
| koen | hildon was considered, but they didn't want to depend on a non-standard gtk | 17:59 |
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| keesj | Pupnik I wish maemo was not basted on whaterver it's currently based on | 17:59 |
| Pupnik | we used to call friends 'basted' if they were baked and wasted | 18:00 |
| keesj | I sill don't understand the debian thing . it must be my fault | 18:00 |
| keesj | based | 18:00 |
| Veggen | what don't you understand? | 18:01 |
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| Veggen | (that's the part I *do* understand about maemo ;-) | 18:02 |
| Tak|work | no kidding | 18:02 |
| part | keesj: "the debian thing"? | 18:03 |
| Pupnik | the package manager... what's wrong with apt? | 18:04 |
| keesj | from the user side I do like it , but not as developer. | 18:05 |
| part | dpkg is the package manager, but that's a minor detail, I'm interested in what "the debian thing" is | 18:05 |
| jku_ | Pupnik, maemo uses libapt, doesn't it? | 18:06 |
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| pyhimys | Ha. They should've used FreeBSD as a base system. Think of the sweetness of running portupgrade, make installworld etc. | 18:06 |
| part | jku_: maemo has dpkg and apt, yes | 18:06 |
| Tak|work | pyhimys: omg the pain | 18:07 |
| keesj | part: just as example how are the maemo .deb files created, why isn't that part of the official debian. | 18:07 |
| unique311 | I wish all the linux devs from the different distros would come together a create an ultimate distro....and call it | 18:07 |
| unique311 | Ultmate distro | 18:07 |
| unique311 | heh | 18:07 |
| part | keesj: maemo isn't debian, openmoko isn't part of openembedded, it's upstream | 18:07 |
| unique311 | are we still wishing | 18:08 |
| unique311 | ? | 18:08 |
| jku_ | keesj, they're created with the exact same commands as in debian... | 18:08 |
| Veggen | unique: it won't happen, and Linux would probably not be Linux if it *could | 18:08 |
| keesj | why are there so many different repositories for bora. greagale etc. | 18:08 |
| part | keesj: that's dumb, I agree on that | 18:08 |
| unique311 | no unity | 18:08 |
| unique311 | no peace | 18:09 |
| Tak|work | you mean different official repos, or all the scattered developer repos? | 18:09 |
| unique311 | we need to unite | 18:09 |
| Veggen | Freedom to tinker, to build upon, etc. is what has made Linux - as in not the kernel but the whole environment - to what it is today. | 18:09 |
| Veggen | unique: I've heard it said, and I'm not sure I agree. | 18:09 |
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| unique311 | only in unity can the ultimate distro be found.. | 18:09 |
| Veggen | We need to explore different paths, but then reunite where it makes sense. | 18:09 |
| keesj | part: but the worse for me is that I still can't create full signed debian packages , I have just given up on it | 18:09 |
| Tak|work | unique311: not everybody has the same needs, and until they do, there's no sense in having a unified distribution | 18:10 |
| unique311 | veggen how long has it been since the paths have been explored... | 18:10 |
| unique311 | we need to unite now....who seconds that notion | 18:10 |
| Veggen | unique: It's a continuous process. | 18:10 |
| unique311 | we can start in maemo. | 18:10 |
| part | keesj: can you elaborate on that? | 18:10 |
| unique311 | and spread like a germ to the rest of irc.. | 18:10 |
| Veggen | unique: I do. I don't think total unity is necessary. | 18:11 |
| part | total unity isn't necessary, and won't happen | 18:11 |
| unique311 | k, lets start with the mobile devices... | 18:11 |
| unique311 | how about that.. | 18:11 |
| Veggen | unique: But let me give an example: GNOME and KDE. There's now various levels of basic interoperability, while still maintaining the differences that makes it separate choices. | 18:11 |
| Veggen | unique: That will probably be even more difficult. | 18:12 |
| unique311 | lets not compare window managers.. | 18:12 |
| unique311 | lets do it by arch... | 18:12 |
| part | unique311: desktop environments.. | 18:12 |
| unique311 | yeah | 18:12 |
| unique311 | thanks..meant to say that | 18:12 |
| keesj | part: I am trying to say that you have to learn an awfull lot in order to be able to distribute you code | 18:13 |
| Pupnik | heh yeah the debian new maintainer's guide | 18:13 |
| Tak|work | keesj: that's not a bad thing - it prevents people from spewing random drivel | 18:13 |
| keesj | in the first week of using maemo I was able to install sbox and create a small app | 18:13 |
| part | keesj: you could also get someone else to maintain the package | 18:13 |
| keesj | So I was very happy and people on this irc channel have been very helpfull with such problems | 18:14 |
| keesj | part , yes and no, I have done what I could do to make it easyer. | 18:15 |
| keesj | I have worked with MUD , that helped a lot but did not solve the last "upload/sign" problem | 18:15 |
| Veggen | unique: I'm afraid that if we did that, we'd do the following things: | 18:15 |
| keesj | nobody really cares that somebody else can't package, it's not sexy to package | 18:16 |
| Veggen | 1) Scare away those that don't agree with those standards. | 18:16 |
| Veggen | 2) Lose out on a lot of improvements, partly because of that. | 18:16 |
| part | keesj: so the actual problem is file upload and pgp signing? | 18:16 |
| Tak|work | now I do agree that they should make the signing work from within scratchbox | 18:17 |
| keesj | part yes this is one of remaining problems | 18:17 |
| Tak|work | but the fact that it doesn't doesn't invalidate debian as a base development platform | 18:17 |
| part | tak: that's a legal problem, but I wouldn't sign packages _inside_ sbox anyway, I don't put my key there | 18:18 |
| keesj | other problems are that there is no support to compile and test for the different maemo sdk's | 18:18 |
| unique311 | so i guess with Linux "Divided we stand, United we fall..." to a certain degree. | 18:18 |
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| part | keesj: automatic compilation? | 18:18 |
| Veggen | unique: See what happens with the BSDs. Lots of good work happens, but *more* happens in the Linux world, thus we generally get features faster. | 18:19 |
| part | keesj: a single sdk is targeted to a single device, mostly. This stems from the symbian world | 18:19 |
| Veggen | In the BSDs, there's a lot more of what you wish, happening. | 18:19 |
| keesj | part: if you are willing to help I would be very happy | 18:20 |
| part | keesj: go ahead and ask | 18:20 |
| part | I'm currently in a debian packaging course as a co-teacher :) | 18:21 |
| Tak|work | part: nor do I, but I can understand why people would want to do so | 18:21 |
| keesj | part: my last aproach was here http://box.mmapps.net/~keesj/qemu_maemo_gentoo/ | 18:22 |
| Pupnik | nice google footprint, part (!) | 18:23 |
| part | Pupnik: uh, sorry? | 18:23 |
| keesj | I want an automated fresh install of the maemo sdk 2.2 and 3.1 . to garenty that a package will run on the two platforms | 18:24 |
| Pupnik | no, it's impressive stuff | 18:24 |
| part | Pupnik: I don't know what you are talking about | 18:25 |
| Pupnik | keesj, well your users don't have fresh installs either :) | 18:25 |
| keesj | I would like so also sign /upload the package. | 18:25 |
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| keesj | I have been working with a few people , usualy when a debian package compiles in onnes install it fails on mine , that it why I wanted that. | 18:26 |
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| keesj | part ,Pupnik if you know a better aproach pleast don't be shy. | 18:27 |
| part | keesj: a clean environment for building is a good thing | 18:27 |
| keesj | most package in garage are not delivered with source and I blame the system for that | 18:28 |
| Jaffa | I think the ultimate solution to the packaging problem and the repository/SDK version problems is a Debian/Ubuntu-style approach with build servers up at the top | 18:28 |
| part | keesj: I blame the people doing those packages | 18:29 |
| part | Jaffa: yeah, that would be a good thing | 18:29 |
| keesj | Jaffa: yes and no , the mud / oe / gentoo aproach combimes with a central build is even better, it's easy for people to join in the effort ,s tart fixing problems | 18:30 |
| keesj | part it's altight to blame people like me , But I have really tried the best I could to make it work. | 18:31 |
| part | keesj: not providing the source is sometimes a license violation | 18:31 |
| keesj | yep, and I would even preft if we could upload source to the maemo repository and that maemo could build the sources for us. | 18:32 |
| keesj | so at least we know that packageX was created with sourceX | 18:32 |
| part | keesj: your qemu image looks interesting, but I can't run it on my laptop (powerpc ibook), but I'll take a look at it tomorrow | 18:32 |
| part | keesj: yes, that would be a good thing, but seems to have some legal issues | 18:32 |
| keesj | part: the funy thing is that I know I am missing some critical components , for exmaple for sardine there is / was a build system. I don;t know if it was also building the os2007on770 but it is the same kind of problem | 18:35 |
| part | keesj: I don't think it was building the 2007 backport hack | 18:36 |
| Pupnik | i've been compiling for os2007on770 from by gregale scratchbox... am i bad? | 18:36 |
| part | keesj: the sardine build system isn't very good either | 18:36 |
| Pupnik | seems to work :| | 18:36 |
| Tak|work | I'm still using a mistral build env | 18:37 |
| part | my laptop battery is running out very rapidly | 18:37 |
| keesj | bye bye :p | 18:37 |
| Pupnik | one nice thing about maemo-apps.org is they make it easy to host files | 18:38 |
| Pupnik | it's pretty sparese though | 18:39 |
| Pupnik | what would be everybody's vote for the main repository of choice for 3rd party app developers? | 18:40 |
| part | ~ . | 18:41 |
| Tak|work | garage | 18:41 |
| part | oops | 18:41 |
| Pupnik | heh i thought that was sarcasm | 18:41 |
| Pupnik | "your home dir" | 18:41 |
| part | tried to exit ssh as network changed | 18:42 |
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| mgedmin | no space between the ~ and the ., I think | 18:43 |
| keesj | but I guess maemo will get less atention now nokia joined / created the gnome mobile && embedded platform. something new and fresh will comme | 18:43 |
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| part | mgedmin: if ~ is a combination of ~ and " ", then yes | 18:44 |
| mgedmin | ah, dead keys | 18:44 |
| koen | keesj: maemo is just gmae + hildon | 18:44 |
| mgedmin | pasting URLs containing a /~username/ portion is fun when your dead keys are implemented as vim mappings | 18:44 |
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| unique311 | Pupnik libmikmod | 18:47 |
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| unique311 | where? | 18:47 |
| unique311 | the vorbis stuff where easy to find | 18:47 |
| keesj | koen for me maemo is also the sdk , sbox, the community | 18:48 |
| Pupnik | sec unique311 | 18:48 |
| Pupnik | http://pupnik.de/libmikmod_pupnik.tgz | 18:53 |
| Pupnik | can't do a .deb for bora yet | 18:53 |
| Pupnik | unpack to /usr/lib and run ldconfig | 18:53 |
| part | Pupnik: why no bora? | 18:53 |
| Pupnik | i just have sdk 2.2 set up | 18:54 |
| Pupnik | and the dpkg-buildpackage wants texinfo, which is a pain to build | 18:55 |
| part | Pupnik: 2.2 and 3.x work on the same scratchbox installation | 18:55 |
| part | Pupnik: you could make it not to build the documentation | 18:55 |
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| Pupnik | searching the web for how to do that | 18:58 |
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| Pupnik | part, do i just remove dh_installdocs -a from debian/rules? | 19:01 |
| Pupnik | along with dh_installinfo -a docs/mikmod.info ? | 19:01 |
| Pupnik | ah and remove texinfo from control's build-depends | 19:02 |
| Pupnik | hey, that wasn't too hard! :) | 19:03 |
| unique311 | eoor while loading shared libraries: /usr/lib/libmikmod.so.2: ELF file version does not match current one | 19:03 |
| unique311 | need to compile libmikmod for bora | 19:04 |
| Pupnik | ah my build broke | 19:04 |
| * Pupnik has to edit makefile, config as well | 19:05 | |
| Pupnik | or no that's bad... i need to ... deal with... .in files | 19:06 |
| Pupnik | and autoconf | 19:06 |
| Pupnik | and automake | 19:07 |
| Pupnik | and Makefile.am | 19:07 |
| Pupnik | and Makefile.in | 19:07 |
| Pupnik | and ltmain.sh | 19:08 |
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| mgedmin | waitasec, if you're dealing with Makefile.am, then it means you don't need to deal with Makefile.in | 19:10 |
| Pupnik | oh i just grepped docs and started deleting | 19:10 |
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| Pupnik | ../libtool: line 1: s,^.*/,,g: No such file or directory | 19:16 |
| Pupnik | what file is libtool referring-to? | 19:16 |
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| * Pupnik *totally* agrees with keesj | 19:17 | |
| Pupnik | 'just don't build the docs' indeed | 19:19 |
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| Pupnik | ok it built fine in sb, but not on pc | 19:22 |
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| Pupnik | \o/ http://pupnik.de/libmikmod2_3.1.11-a-6_armel.deb | 19:31 |
| lardman | ~lart metalayer-crawler | 19:32 |
| lardman | bloody thing has drained my battery | 19:33 |
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| * TimRiker watches lardman try to lart. is there a bot in here? do folks want one? | 19:52 | |
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| * TimRiker runs apt/ibot/infobot/jbot/purl on freenode. | 19:52 | |
| bill20r3 | I blame you! | 19:52 |
| * bill20r3 kids. | 19:53 | |
| lardman | I think there is a bot, at least there's history | 19:53 |
| lardman | logs that is | 19:53 |
| TimRiker | ah. I'd be happy to add infobot here (the other connections are in max channels atm) | 19:53 |
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| * mgedmin runs supybot to keep channel logs; it doesn't do anything else | 19:54 | |
| tigert | darn. i love my 770 | 19:54 |
| TimRiker | Toni: thoughts? looks like you own the channel. | 19:54 |
| tigert | the n800 is nice, but the size and feel is much better on this | 19:55 |
| Tak|work | agree | 19:55 |
| * TimRiker wishes nokia would release a gsm/gprs/edge/umts model. | 19:55 | |
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| lardman | ~lart metalayer-crawler, just for luck ;) | 19:56 |
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| TimRiker | mgedmin: who is the supybot? | 19:56 |
| TimRiker | !help | 19:56 |
| TimRiker | .help | 19:56 |
| TimRiker | ~help | 19:56 |
| mgedmin | google supybot | 19:56 |
| tigert | i wouldnt need gsm on this, as i already have a bluetooth phone | 19:57 |
| tigert | also i wouldnt want another SIM | 19:57 |
| TimRiker | mgedmin: I know very when _what_ a supybot is. that was not the question. | 19:57 |
| mgedmin | ah, sorry | 19:57 |
| tigert | but i guess it would be useful as yet another way to connect | 19:57 |
| mgedmin | povbot, say hi | 19:57 |
| greentux | hi | 19:57 |
| * TimRiker watches povbot say nothing. | 19:58 | |
| TimRiker | povbot`: say hi | 19:58 |
| povbot` | TimRiker: Error: "say" is not a valid command. | 19:58 |
| greentux | somebody knows how the external sd-card switch works? | 19:58 |
| TimRiker | greentux: switch? | 19:58 |
| tigert | enjoys irssi while waiting for kebab in tikkurila | 19:58 |
| greentux | also something like hall or so? | 19:58 |
| greentux | TimRiker: yes the nokia accept the sd card only while the little switch s closed | 19:58 |
| tigert | awesomely useful device for an irc aficionado ;) | 19:59 |
| TimRiker | tigert: yeah, not everyone would want one, but it would be nice to have a n800g or something that had it. | 19:59 |
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| TimRiker | greentux: you mean the internal sd card then? | 19:59 |
| tigert | i guess yea. people seem to ask for it | 19:59 |
| greentux | TimRiker: no, the external. there is a little lever | 20:00 |
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| greentux | TimRiker: the internal has the hall magnet in the cover. | 20:00 |
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| greentux | TimRiker: I want try to use SD-Device that dont fit the sd-card size... a sd-connector with a eval board attahced | 20:01 |
| * TimRiker looks at his n800 | 20:01 | |
| tigert | greentux, i can check at home if i remember, i have one disassembled unit | 20:01 |
| greentux | TimRiker: yeah have a look :) | 20:01 |
| greentux | tigert: would be nice. is it hard to disassamble? | 20:01 |
| greentux | tigert: is there a howto anywhere? | 20:01 |
| tigert | no if you know what to probe | 20:02 |
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| tigert | look under the stand | 20:02 |
| tigert | three small clips | 20:02 |
| tigert | holds the front in place | 20:02 |
| tigert | then there are just screws under. small torx | 20:03 |
| greentux | ok, my one is at office. but go on, will try your tips tomorrow... | 20:03 |
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| tigert | but you are on your own of course etc yadda yadda.. | 20:03 |
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| greentux | tigert: yes I know... opened a zaurus and some other devices. :) | 20:04 |
| TimRiker | sure enough. the "lid" on the external needs to be closed almost all the way. | 20:04 |
| mgedmin | all you need is a large-enough hammer | 20:05 |
| tigert | ok, kebab is here, brb | 20:05 |
| greentux | TimRiker: Yes and now the question is, if it is possible do workaround that by software/config etc... :) | 20:06 |
| TimRiker | greentux: so cut off the door and close the stub. :/ | 20:06 |
| greentux | TimRiker: Yes, I had that in mind, but :) | 20:08 |
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| Pupnik | is /usr/local/bin in the standard PATH of n800 / n770? | 20:28 |
| Pupnik | i can't remember | 20:28 |
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| Pupnik | unique311: got debs up for tecnoballz - just have to tweak paths and the default option to make it fullscreen | 20:29 |
| Tak|work | I've never seen a deb install anything into /usr/local | 20:29 |
| Pupnik | this thing wants to go into /usr/games | 20:30 |
| maddler | hello! | 20:30 |
| mgedmin | debian policy says debs should never install anythin into /usr/local (well, except for empty directories) | 20:31 |
| Pupnik | ahh ty for the lurning | 20:31 |
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| Pupnik | "ic Tick Timer for Linux (dyn-tick) makes the HZ dynamic. When | 20:51 |
| Pupnik | using dyn-tick, the system runs at full HZ during load, and skips | 20:51 |
| Pupnik | ticks when possible while idle." | 20:51 |
| Pupnik | "Dyn-tick was originally implemented for TI's OMAP ARM architecture, | 20:51 |
| Pupnik | and has been in use in the linux-omap tree since October 2004." | 20:51 |
| Pupnik | cool | 20:51 |
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| geoffeg | Does anyone else have an issue where Opera won't do anything when you enter a URL and press enter or the "Go" arrow? | 21:03 |
| geoffeg | I have to restart Opera to get it to work again. | 21:03 |
| Pupnik | with the virtual keyboard or bt? | 21:04 |
| geoffeg | virt | 21:05 |
| geoffeg | Maybe it does after I switch connections | 21:05 |
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| Pupnik | could be. i haven't seen that problem | 21:06 |
| Tak|work | geoffeg: that consistently happens to me if opera isn't focused when the page finishes loading | 21:07 |
| Tak|work | e.g. I click a link, switch to a different window, and come back after the page is loaded | 21:07 |
| geoffeg | ah, i will try to avoid that.. | 21:07 |
| geoffeg | digg really needs a light version | 21:07 |
| geoffeg | Has anyone contacted google about writing an official google maps app for the 770/n800? | 21:11 |
| Pupnik | i bet a good coder could even do google earth | 21:12 |
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| Pupnik | btw maps.google.com works fine here - vaddayavant? | 21:14 |
| ||cw | maemo mapper can use google maps and works quite well | 21:17 |
| ||cw | why would google want to make an official one when someone is making a good one for free | 21:17 |
| geoffeg | maps.google.com works ok.. doesn't map the Directional Pad | 21:17 |
| geoffeg | ah, i thought maemo mapper was using google's maps in voilation of their terms | 21:17 |
| Pupnik | maps.google.com doesn't use keyboard arrows either, and they are the nokia's equivalent of those | 21:18 |
| geoffeg | maps.google.com on my desktop uses the keyboard arros | 21:19 |
| ||cw | geoffeg: it doesn't come with the urls by default, and will work with other map sites as well | 21:19 |
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| kpel | hi all | 21:19 |
| ||cw | so maemo mapper itself isn't in violation, just the users who tell it to use google's maps | 21:19 |
| geoffeg | so i'm breakin the law!? :) | 21:19 |
| ||cw | no, you are breaking a terms of service that you didn't agree to | 21:20 |
| geoffeg | aww, come on, i wanna be breakin the law! :) | 21:20 |
| Pupnik | wow google maps is very efficiently done | 21:20 |
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| Juhaz | ok, you're breaking the law. copyright violation, they'll send the MAPAA after you | 21:21 |
| ||cw | wrong again | 21:21 |
| geoffeg | ok, not breaking the law! :) | 21:21 |
| ||cw | using google maps images might be a copyright violation, but that breaking the "law", it's only a civil offence. and the MPAA could care less, and the DMCA isn't a problem either because you didn't crack any encryption to do it | 21:23 |
| ||cw | and you aren't distributing the maps either | 21:23 |
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| geoffeg | ||cw: I thought he was joking.. "MAP-AA" :) | 21:24 |
| Juhaz | yes, it's not a criminal offence, but offence nevertheless. and yes, that part was a joke | 21:25 |
| ||cw | hm, maybe i do that caffiene | 21:25 |
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| keesj | google must be watching as we speak. there is so much google software on the n800 | 22:00 |
| jku__ | like what? | 22:02 |
| jku__ | there's a lot with google brand or smthg but I doubt there's any google code | 22:03 |
| jku__ | although I don't really know, just my impression | 22:03 |
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| keesj | ther is the branding. google talk. gooole maps.news and mail as links. google search. google mail notifier. i do like it all. | 22:05 |
| keesj | also there is no skype openwengo. but perhaps google allows different clients on there network? | 22:06 |
| unique311 | speaking of skype... | 22:07 |
| unique311 | whats going on with skype on maemo | 22:07 |
| unique311 | any news on that | 22:07 |
| Robot101 | keesj: google allows any client on their network, it's an openly federated XMPP server | 22:08 |
| keesj | cool | 22:09 |
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| keesj | why are there no good google talk linux clients(voice) | 22:11 |
| keesj | the technology is there and even the code. | 22:11 |
| Robot101 | well, our stuff that's on the N800 works on the desktop too, we just don't have a good frontend for it | 22:11 |
| Robot101 | there are like 3 being written at the moment though | 22:12 |
| keesj | i saw that even the windows tablet talk version contained gtk or something similar. | 22:14 |
| keesj | interesting! | 22:14 |
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| keesj | robot we as in not google? | 22:16 |
| Robot101 | we as in telepathy | 22:16 |
| Robot101 | telepathy.freedesktop.org | 22:16 |
| Robot101 | the framework behind the N800's built-in VOIP/IM stuff | 22:16 |
| Pupnik | this is my favorite n770 picture still http://www.pupnik.de/Netrek_0_01_tinyfont.jpg | 22:18 |
| greentux | tigert: sorry, child awaked... I need that to connect a sd device larger then a memory card to the sd port... | 22:19 |
| keesj | Pupnik: is it old? | 22:20 |
| Pupnik | about 6 weeks i think | 22:21 |
| Pupnik | somehow the lighting looks very finnish :) | 22:22 |
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| geoffeg | ok, maemo maps is pretty cool :) | 22:32 |
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| keesj | maemo mapper? | 22:35 |
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| geoffeg | a native mapping app.. uses different sources, can connect to a GPS | 22:36 |
| keesj | yes , it is very nice | 22:37 |
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| kulve | seems to crash thou | 22:42 |
| kulve | just tried it for the first time. Looks nice and works nicely most of the time.. | 22:42 |
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| keesj | At the end I found it just to geeky to really use | 22:45 |
| tigert | greentux: ah | 22:46 |
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| kulve | keesj: when was this? I though the same a year ago.. | 22:46 |
| keesj | I tried it again a few month ago. I was then possible to download the maps urls via the web | 22:47 |
| keesj | I also compiled the speech engine for the n800 freetts? | 22:48 |
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| keesj | I think it should be a little easyer to find directions | 22:48 |
| geoffeg | maemo mapper needs geocodder support, i found no way to say "show me a certain address" | 22:51 |
| keesj | yes or vector based road information so I can find roads by itself | 22:52 |
| geoffeg | it's very impressive for how good it is already | 22:53 |
| keesj | yes , I had exact same feeling of how complete it was for the initial release. and that all in one file! | 22:54 |
| geoffeg | i wish it didn't use sqlite but.. oh well | 22:54 |
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| geoffeg | (i've noticed that a lot of developers use an SQL database when berkeleyDB or similar would work fine and be faster with a smaller footprint) | 22:55 |
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| keesj | geoffeg what would you like to store in the berkeleyDB? | 23:00 |
| unique311 | To port Cumulus, the first thing was make it using normal Qt/X11 3.x instead Qtopia Qt/e 2.x | 23:00 |
| unique311 | Thhe porting from Qt/e 2.x to Qt/x11 was really small work. Emulationg Qutopia | 23:00 |
| unique311 | functions Qtopia emulation ( or stub ) layer was needed. The following table contains | 23:00 |
| unique311 | porting steps and their current status. | 23:00 |
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| unique311 | alot of the zaurus apps well the sources..require QT | 23:00 |
| unique311 | so with these guys handling the QT part for the maemo...can port more apps made for zaurus to 770/800 | 23:01 |
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| geoffeg | keesj: I'm not sure what exactly is stored in the sqlite database right now.. but i'm guessing it's map data and route data.. I imagine it's not a highly complex relational structure.. that data might be able to be easily stored in BerkDB | 23:03 |
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| keesj | I have to walk the dog :( . greetings | 23:08 |
| mgedmin | eek, someone mentioned BerkeleyDB | 23:08 |
| mgedmin | the horror | 23:08 |
| geoffeg | what's wrong with BerkeleyDB? | 23:08 |
| mgedmin | I won't ever forgive it for eating my subversion repository | 23:08 |
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| geoffeg | Are you sure that BerkeleyDB was the culprit? | 23:09 |
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| geoffeg | BerkeleyDB is everywhere although you probably don't know it. I doubt that it has such a massive flaw. :) | 23:10 |
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| vbraun | anybody using n800 usb networking? On the PC, I get "kernel: cdc_ether: probe of 5-2:1.0 failed with error -32". Of course I removed g_file_storage.ko and insmodded g_ether.ko on the n800 side. | 23:19 |
| zyxulnaga | vbraun: usb over ethernet? | 23:24 |
| zyxulnaga | I mean ethernet over usb? | 23:24 |
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| vbraun | Yes. I'm trying to connect n800<->PC by a usb cable and share network connection. I'm not sure if its technically "ethernet over usb". | 23:27 |
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