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| carlosguerreiro | robtaylor, does that mean cairo is rendering everything in 24 bit and X is converting down to 16 bit? | 00:01 |
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| robtaylor | carlosguerreiro: hmm, i maybe wrong. I've just seen that 1.2 seems to have some 16bit support for certain orderings | 00:02 |
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| carlosguerreiro | robtaylor, if it didn't support at least the basic operations in 16 bit, wouldn't that show as lower performance? | 00:03 |
| robtaylor | carlosguerreiro: yeah, it'd be wasting a *lot* of time and memory | 00:05 |
| robtaylor | buffering to 24bit buffers and then the xserver converting them to 16bit | 00:05 |
| tigert | robtaylor: thats good news | 00:06 |
| konttori | Are there any 24 bit -> 16 bit dithering libs available? Nokia could include that for jpeg processing. At least for the image viewer. | 00:06 |
| konttori | floyd steinberg or whatever it was was pretty good on amiga graphics | 00:06 |
| konttori | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Floyd-Steinberg_dithering | 00:08 |
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| robtaylor | tigert: mm, unfortunatly any 16 bit rendering its cabable of isn't exposed in cairo_image_surface_create | 00:08 |
| carlosguerreiro | tko, regardless of whatever we do in bugzilla, nothing prevents us from doing regular point releases of the haf. We just need to want to do it | 00:11 |
| robtaylor | * @CAIRO_FORMAT_RGB16_565: This format value is deprecated. It has | 00:11 |
| robtaylor | * never been properly implemented in cairo and should not be used | 00:11 |
| robtaylor | * by applications. (since 1.2) | 00:11 |
| robtaylor | mmm, suspicious | 00:12 |
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| tko | carlosguerreiro, and someone needs to act as release manager and make sure it happens | 00:13 |
| tko | robtaylor, it was just removed | 00:13 |
| tko | you should go poke #cairo :) | 00:13 |
| carlosguerreiro | tko, do you have anybody in mind? | 00:14 |
| tigert | konttori: I think gdkpixbuf does some dithering for you | 00:14 |
| tigert | but I dunno if it is automatically on | 00:14 |
| tigert | or if I am just talking stuff I have no clue about :) | 00:15 |
| robtaylor | tko: yeah, http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/cairo/2006-September/007820.html | 00:15 |
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| robtaylor | tigert: maybe if i'm bored over xmas i'll hack up a good 16bit renderer for you ;) | 00:23 |
| tigert | robtaylor: :) | 00:23 |
| tigert | I try to finish the theme before christmas | 00:23 |
| tigert | but it might be a long shot | 00:23 |
| tigert | lots of little widgets to style | 00:23 |
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| tko | carlosguerreiro, kind of feels like it's part of what karl is going to be doing anyway, only with different pace and scope | 00:28 |
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| carlosguerreiro | tko, could be. we can get ask him to give it a shot | 00:34 |
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| pahartik | what needs to be done for Nokia 770 to show up on "hcitool scan" output of other hosts? | 01:53 |
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| PriYo | «ºôº» Priñcê OF PriYo«ºôº» |||| ScRipT - PriYo JusT EñTêRêd Iñ Thê RooM *!* Wish YoU JoU åñD MåñY Blêssiñg s OF LiFê *!* Hêllo Hêåvêñly pêoplê -«ºôº» Priñcê OF PriYo«ºôº» |||| ScRipT | 02:00 |
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| * spect slaps PriYo too | 02:04 | |
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| Whiz | I thought that all users with scripts like that were shot in the neck at mid 90's :) | 08:23 |
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| inz | Whiz, users of such scripts should've been shot in the nuts first, then waited for an hour or two and then shot properly... | 09:50 |
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| Whiz | inz, k :) | 09:52 |
| glass | for some weird reason most people with super annoying scripts seem to be from southern europe(and have bad english...) | 09:53 |
| Whiz | nowdays they often are also from southern america :) | 10:00 |
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| Knuckles | Hello? | 10:17 |
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| Knuckles | I'm in need of some maemo development help.... anyone? | 10:17 |
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| inz | Knuckles, try asking, it never hurt anyone | 10:18 |
| Knuckles | OK - i've opened a remote browser window, and i just want to get it to open up in full screen mode. Either as part of the open call or alternatively a special dbus message? | 10:19 |
| Knuckles | I can't find any info online about it - maybe you can send dbus messages to emulate key presses? | 10:20 |
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| inz | Knuckles, I'd guess you're pretty much out of luck... | 10:24 |
| inz | Knuckles, you can send a fake F6 via XTest extension, but how to assure the recipient is another, less trivial task | 10:24 |
| pahartik | is configuration file of official Maemo 2.0 or 2.1 Linux kernel available anywhere? direct URL to it? | 10:24 |
| inz | pahartik, I'd guess it's at least in the kernel source packages | 10:25 |
| Knuckles | OK thanks inz, i guessed there wasn't an easy work around but wanted to check with someone. | 10:25 |
| pahartik | inz: oh, you ported and packaged Gaim to Maemo... | 10:32 |
| inz | pahartik, nope, Devesh did that, I just repackaged it to mistral | 10:33 |
| inz | pahartik, and fixed a couple of bugs | 10:33 |
| pahartik | inz: very good... :) | 10:35 |
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| pahartik | inz: seems to be best IRC client for Maemo so far | 10:38 |
| inz | pahartik, nope, xterm + ssh + irssi is the best =) | 10:39 |
| pahartik | inz: well, I would use Irssi, but I do not like that X terminal... especially as it changes size when keyboard appears... | 10:42 |
| inz | pahartik, that is quite annoying, yes | 10:42 |
| inz | pahartik, I accidentally detached all my other screen sessions, so last time I used it, mut screen got resized 'swell | 10:42 |
| Whiz | changing windows in irssi is pain in the ass :( | 10:43 |
| inz | -ut+y | 10:43 |
| inz | how so? | 10:43 |
| glass | configure them to just some easier buttons? | 10:43 |
| glass | like left/right for window change | 10:43 |
| Whiz | I've binded them to letf/right buttons :) | 10:43 |
| inz | I've not bound them, I like to use left/right for other uses | 10:44 |
| Whiz | but I sometimes want to correct what I'm saying or add afterwards a word in a sentence I have previously said. | 10:44 |
| pahartik | inz: but I believe special IRC client can be much better than Irssi on device with small screen and restricted input devices | 10:44 |
| Whiz | I mainly use Xchat but it has some problems why it isnt a very nice to use. | 10:45 |
| inz | I don't concider the 770 screen to be small | 10:45 |
| Whiz | it is huge compared to my E60 which I previously used when I was somewhere else than home :) | 10:46 |
| pahartik | inz: default size of my Rxvt window is 90x55, that is how I like Irssi and Lynx (and shells) | 10:47 |
| inz | pahartik, I use 80x50, some of it gets outside the xterm, but I don't care, stuff that doesn't fit there isn't fresh enough anyway ;) | 10:48 |
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| Jaffa | Morning, all | 11:09 |
| inz | mrng | 11:09 |
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| Jaffa | tigert: very nice sneak.png :) | 11:14 |
| jonek | good morning | 11:15 |
| jonek | has anybody tried to compile sun's GPL'd phoneME for the 770? I guess this would interest quite some people here and I'm wondering if there is a joint effort. | 11:16 |
| Jaffa | jonek: AFAIK no-one's tried it, but it would be interesting to see how it performs. | 11:17 |
| jonek | Jaffa: I tried, but was stuck when I saw that java is needed to compile phoneME advanced which isn't the case in scratchbox. | 11:22 |
| jonek | I wrote a mail to maemo-dev but got impressive few response for a quite promising possibility of Java on 770 | 11:24 |
| * pahartik gets frustrated with Gaim, as it thinks I only have one "account" after starting up | 11:24 | |
| * pahartik decides to try configuring X-chat again | 11:25 | |
| jonek | yesterday there was traffic in sun's phoneME advanced forum. someone is using it on the ARM926EJ-S same as in the 770 -> http://forums.java.net/jive/thread.jspa?messageID=187402 | 11:26 |
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| AD-N770 | good morning | 11:27 |
| jonek | hi AD-N770 | 11:27 |
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| konttori | Morning!!! | 11:30 |
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| konttori | tigert: Jeah!!!!! I got TM finally working with your layout files. | 12:08 |
| konttori | About time! | 12:08 |
| konttori | Naturally it's been typo hunting time... ;) | 12:08 |
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| VRe | ..007 and his 770 =) | 12:17 |
| inz | ~007 = 770(oct) | 12:20 |
| inz | Given that you use 9 bit integers... | 12:21 |
| inz | :o | 12:21 |
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| tigert | konttori: !! | 13:03 |
| tigert | cool | 13:03 |
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| tigert | inz: :) | 13:03 |
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| roope | g'morning. | 13:06 |
| X-Fade | tigert: I can't help to notice that your sneak preview differs quite a lot from the template in svn ;) | 13:06 |
| konttori | tigert: although it seems that theme maker is messing up the home view top bar. | 13:07 |
| pahartik | inz: I changed my mind, X-chat is better than Gaim... but it required figuring out how to modify configuration file by hand, due to network list dialog being too large and partially out of sight | 13:14 |
| inz | irc_message_send(g_object_new(IRC_TYPE_MESSAGE_GREETING, "greeting_type", IRC_MESSAGE_JOIN, "timezone", irc_timezone_get_by_name("ugt"), NULL)); | 13:15 |
| inz | pahartik, improving it has been on my geek-TODO list, but unfortunately my geek-TODO list is quite low in priority and my non-geek-TODO list is long. | 13:15 |
| pahartik | inz: which one? | 13:18 |
| inz | pahartik, the Xchat connection dialog | 13:19 |
| pahartik | inz: is that progress bar supposed to keep moving constantly by text input field or is X-chat busy with something? | 13:22 |
| inz | pahartik, I dunno =) | 13:22 |
| tigert | X-Fade: yes it does | 13:28 |
| tigert | konttori: how is it messing it? | 13:28 |
| konttori | well, for some reason the part that has the app title in the app view, isn't visible | 13:29 |
| konttori | And after the messup, no other theme is able to get their home view top bar to work either. | 13:29 |
| konttori | I think I may be able to fix it though. | 13:29 |
| tigert | hmm | 13:29 |
| tigert | it would be good to be able to do a diff between the gtkrc's | 13:29 |
| tigert | maybe something is missing or wrong there? | 13:30 |
| tigert | once I get this style right, I will make a -2 template too | 13:30 |
| tigert | and then we'll get a nice blue theme :) | 13:30 |
| tigert | but its quite a lot of work to do it all | 13:30 |
| tigert | and do it well | 13:30 |
| tigert | with hildon-theme-tools its easy now though | 13:31 |
| tigert | the remaining challenge is just artistic | 13:31 |
| konttori | It uses the -2 gtkrc | 13:31 |
| konttori | the problem is not in the gtkrc. | 13:31 |
| konttori | It's in postinst script... I think | 13:32 |
| tigert | do you also use the -2 template? | 13:32 |
| tigert | yes, could be that too | 13:32 |
| tigert | tried setting a new wallpaper? | 13:32 |
| konttori | Nope. | 13:32 |
| konttori | good point | 13:32 |
| konttori | I just restarted, so after bootup, will do that | 13:32 |
| tigert | since the desktop "top panel" is just the small icon area | 13:33 |
| tigert | the rest of the "top bar" is just rendered on the wallpaper on runtime | 13:33 |
| konttori | so, could also be in a too old version of the home-image-loader | 13:33 |
| konttori | or wrong params | 13:33 |
| tigert | yea | 13:33 |
| konttori | postinst does /usr/bin/home-image-loader new_image 0 | 13:33 |
| tigert | I dunno about that one | 13:33 |
| tigert | and mdk is not logged in | 13:34 |
| tigert | he always forgets to get online :) | 13:34 |
| konttori | and some params. So, it's not too old version, but perhaps the params have changed from 2006 initial to the 2.1 version | 13:34 |
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| konttori | cool. changing bg fixed it | 13:34 |
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| konttori | so, it seems that the home-image-loader params are at the moment wrong | 13:35 |
| MDK | hey | 13:35 |
| MDK | home image loader? Does this load the wallpaper? | 13:36 |
| konttori | If I remember correctly, yeah | 13:37 |
| konttori | MDK: sent you privmsg. did you get it? | 13:39 |
| MDK | konttori: nope. I think you're not registered with freenode | 13:42 |
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| konttori | MDK: https://stage.maemo.org/svn/maemo/projects/haf/tags/maemo-af-desktop/2.9.20.2-new-navigator-1/debian/maemo-af-desktop.postinst | 13:49 |
| MDK | konttori: so you want to bundle your wallpaper and switch to it upon installation? | 13:57 |
| konttori | yeah | 13:57 |
| MDK | jobi: ping | 13:58 |
| konttori | Makes sense if someone wants to use left side bar that looks partially transparent | 13:58 |
| konttori | As e.g. aqua theme uses | 13:58 |
| tigert | yeah | 13:59 |
| tigert | mdk? | 14:05 |
| konttori | testing bites ... test. no-go. change a bit . recreate theme. upload to 770. test. loop. | 14:05 |
| tigert | konttori: no kidding | 14:05 |
| MDK | tigert: yeah? | 14:13 |
| tigert | MDK: what is the logical color used for selected menu item text? | 14:13 |
| MDK | hmm... should be same as everywhere | 14:16 |
| MDK | the task navigator menu uses a custom one | 14:16 |
| MDK | should be PaintedDefaultTextColor | 14:19 |
| tigert | hmm | 14:19 |
| tigert | okay | 14:19 |
| tigert | lemme see if that is black | 14:19 |
| tigert | nope, its not | 14:20 |
| tigert | lemme show you | 14:20 |
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| * pahartik wonders about where does "load-applet-run" store those saved commands | 14:28 | |
| tigert | probably in gconf? | 14:29 |
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| pahartik | tigert: that would make sense... | 14:32 |
| inz | osso-statusbar-cpu does at least | 14:33 |
| tigert | ok, it was a bug | 14:40 |
| tigert | menu text color for selected was painted using default text color | 14:40 |
| MDK | fixed in svn | 14:42 |
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| tigert | coolio | 14:43 |
| tigert | what about -2? | 14:44 |
| tigert | I wonder if the bug is there too | 14:44 |
| MDK | true | 14:44 |
| MDK | but check first if it works for you so I'll backport it | 14:45 |
| tigert | yep | 14:45 |
| tigert | wilco, once I get this sardine version done | 14:46 |
| tigert | MDK: if you have a sec, come over? :) | 14:49 |
| konttori | aw... I had .png in the postinst and the file was .jpg. .... I just hate these small typos. | 14:52 |
| konttori | cool. but now it's done! | 14:52 |
| tigert | right | 14:52 |
| tigert | cool | 14:52 |
| konttori | Want a version? | 14:54 |
| konttori | This will allow you to use any layout.txt but gtkrc is always the on that is in defaultcontent.zip. | 14:54 |
| tigert | sure! | 14:54 |
| tigert | yea, thats a good start | 14:54 |
| tigert | eventually everything needs to come from one selected bundle | 14:55 |
| konttori | I'll implement bundle behaviour later on | 14:55 |
| tigert | yeah | 14:55 |
| tigert | nice | 14:55 |
| tigert | lemme know if you need ui help | 14:55 |
| tigert | I would love to help with that | 14:55 |
| konttori | well, I'll have extended bundles, but they will be compatible with yours as well. | 14:55 |
| tigert | hmm | 14:55 |
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| tigert | yeah | 14:55 |
| tigert | we want to extend this to icons too | 14:56 |
| tigert | once we write the tools | 14:56 |
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| konttori | I think background should also always be part of a theme | 14:59 |
| konttori | You should include that as well | 14:59 |
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| konttori | sent | 15:00 |
| tigert | yep | 15:01 |
| tigert | although force-changing it while you switch themes is not nice | 15:01 |
| tigert | as the user might have some nice photo there etc | 15:01 |
| konttori | Indeed. the installer should have a question for that. Any ideas on how to add it without too much trouble? | 15:02 |
| konttori | Current TM uses -2 gtkrc. If you need to test with -3 stuff, just replace the gtkrc, index.theme , gtk.maemoafdesktop | 15:03 |
| konttori | I mean replace them in the defaultcontent.zip | 15:03 |
| konttori | Oh, and if you use layout, use -2 nokia theme png | 15:03 |
| tigert | yea | 15:03 |
| konttori | Once I get the bundles running, this stuff should help quite a bit. | 15:03 |
| tigert | yeah | 15:04 |
| konttori | did you get the file? | 15:06 |
| konttori | slash mail | 15:06 |
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| florian_kc | hi all | 15:07 |
| tigert | konttori: lemme check | 15:08 |
| tigert | yes, thanks | 15:08 |
| tigert | can I forward it to mdk also? as I need to run in a sec, cannot test it today | 15:08 |
| tigert | but will be eager to try it out tomorrow when I can | 15:09 |
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| tigert | konttori: also the top bar height btw changed between os2006 -> sardine | 15:11 |
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| konttori | I'll keep that in mind. TM should be able to change that for the app top bar. | 15:12 |
| konttori | at least it is able to do that for the current gtkrc | 15:12 |
| tigert | yeah | 15:13 |
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| Anidel | hallo | 15:37 |
| Anidel | anyone here that installed Sardine ? | 15:37 |
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| konttori | tigert: anyway, if you use the TM, let me know how it goes. | 15:43 |
| konttori | Thanks | 15:44 |
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| kender | hi | 16:06 |
| keesj_ | hi | 16:08 |
| kender | hello keesj | 16:10 |
| kender | hello keesj_ | 16:10 |
| kender | hehe | 16:10 |
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| bencer | has anyone built gpe-minibrowser on maemo ? | 16:24 |
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| Zmanu | hello | 16:57 |
| Zmanu | chan for user of nokia 770 ? | 16:57 |
| Juhaz | user, developer, ... | 16:58 |
| Zmanu | ok | 16:58 |
| Zmanu | i've just get mine | 16:59 |
| keesj_ | congrats! | 16:59 |
| Zmanu | :) | 16:59 |
| Zmanu | i see wonderful use of it, a guy with a robot | 16:59 |
| keesj_ | yes , that yourtube movie right? | 17:00 |
| Zmanu | yes | 17:00 |
| Zmanu | my girlfriend is less happy, because i can get a computer every time in my pocket :) | 17:00 |
| keesj_ | pretty amayzing | 17:00 |
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| keesj_ | Zmanu: try playing Mahjong with here with one nokia and two pens. | 17:01 |
| Zmanu | keesj_: is there some information about how he done | 17:01 |
| keesj_ | Zmanu: there is a garage project search on garage.maemo.org | 17:02 |
| keesj_ | I think that for controlling robot's perhaps the 770 is a bit overdone | 17:02 |
| Zmanu | yes, i see but i only start to look config, so i keep garage for later | 17:02 |
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| keesj_ | https://garage.maemo.org/docman/view.php/134/69/README.txt | 17:03 |
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| Zmanu | keesj_: thanks for interesting doc | 17:14 |
| Anidel | anyone here played a bit with Sardine or Herring ? | 17:15 |
| Anidel | :( | 17:16 |
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| nomis | Anidel: probably. | 17:19 |
| Anidel | well :) no one replied :P I've been trying to install Herring.. with no luck so far | 17:21 |
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| X-Fade | Sardine doesn't work on my 770 atm. Something crashes and leaves me with a white display :) | 17:22 |
| nomis | Anidel: I have not played with either, but if you'd ask a specific question about a specific problem, someone might be interested in answering. | 17:22 |
| Anidel | x-fade: exactly.. some issue.. I am trying with Herring now | 17:22 |
| X-Fade | Anidel: https://maemo.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=910 | 17:23 |
| Anidel | nomis: well it's not a "specific" issue.. as I get only a white screen :) | 17:23 |
| X-Fade | Can you post a me too there? :) | 17:23 |
| Anidel | I will :) | 17:23 |
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| Anidel | damn.. creating a new account | 17:26 |
| Zmanu | i put my cable to my usb, i get icon, but can i use usb cable to use internet from my pc ? | 17:26 |
| X-Fade | Zmanu: http://www.maemo.org/platform/docs/howtos/howto_usb_networking.html | 17:27 |
| Zmanu | thanks | 17:27 |
| X-Fade | Doesn't work when a MMC card is inserted though. | 17:28 |
| Anidel | ok done.. | 17:28 |
| Anidel | uhm.. the new initfs is not working .. shoot... | 17:29 |
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| Zmanu | X-Fade: ok | 17:30 |
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| Anidel | x-fade I cannot choose to boot from the MMC anymore :/ | 17:34 |
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| Anidel | flashing the nokia again.. :/ | 17:36 |
| Anidel | let's see if the initfs flasher works working from a brand new system | 17:37 |
| Anidel | "Such is life on the bleeding edge." ... right | 17:39 |
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| Anidel | great! it worked.. | 17:47 |
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| Anidel | now I can boot again from flash and from MMC.. now I just have to update the MMC to Herring.. and it should work | 17:47 |
| Anidel | *should*.. so let's cross the fingers | 17:48 |
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| Anidel | this time I'll update to Herring from inside the nokia.. and not from ssh.. let's see | 17:49 |
| tigert | probably disable lifeguard | 17:53 |
| Anidel | already did it... or reflashing to a brand new IT2006 will put it back ? | 17:53 |
| tigert | so killing maemo-launcher wont reboot the tablet | 17:53 |
| tigert | it shouldnt put it back | 17:54 |
| Anidel | in fact.. ok.. installing hildon-application-framework.. | 17:54 |
| Anidel | last time it gave me many errors regarding no dpgr-preconfigure and no /etc/ld.so.conf | 17:54 |
| tigert | i would do this from ssh so term dying wont stop you | 17:55 |
| Anidel | is this normal? and no libXfaces.so.0 I think... well that was with "sardine", now I'm trying with "herring" | 17:55 |
| Anidel | uhm ok.. | 17:55 |
| Anidel | I'll have to install ssh.. | 17:55 |
| tigert | also. if it breaks, please document it on the devel mailing list | 17:55 |
| tigert | so people know. | 17:56 |
| Anidel | sure.. I didn't do it with "sardine" as it may be well know already (as they are updating it often I think) | 17:56 |
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| tigert | we are trying to move into using sardine ourselves but it takes time to do the change | 17:57 |
| tigert | yet its the only way to make sure it works | 17:58 |
| Anidel | yep I can imagine.. actually the upgrade to sardine didn't work for me.. same as here: https://maemo.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=910 | 17:58 |
| Anidel | ok.. in the nokia via ssh.. let's try the install and then the upgrade now | 18:00 |
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| Anidel | while it downloads and installs... are those errors about "/bin/sh: /usr/sbin/dpkg-preconfigure: not found | 18:02 |
| Anidel | " | 18:02 |
| Anidel | normal ? | 18:02 |
| tigert | ok. good luck, i need to run now | 18:03 |
| tigert | sorry about that | 18:03 |
| Anidel | okay.. thanks :) | 18:03 |
| Anidel | anyway also: ldconfig: Can't open configuration file /etc/ld.so.conf: No such file or directory | 18:03 |
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| Anidel | I think they are normal.. :) bye | 18:03 |
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| Anidel | damn! it keeps booting from the internal flash now! :/ | 18:30 |
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| Anidel | bye to everyone | 19:01 |
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| robtaylor | anyone know what packages i need for building kernel modules on maemo? | 19:47 |
| koen | libgoat-dev | 19:47 |
| koen | libvirgin-dev | 19:47 |
| koen | and sacrifice those | 19:48 |
| X-Fade | lol | 19:49 |
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| robtaylor | *sigh* | 19:52 |
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| kender | hello | 20:45 |
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| pahartik | Any suggestions for buffered telnet client like TinyFugue? | 21:17 |
| Tak | I built a tf deb if you'd like it | 21:20 |
| pahartik | Tak: not sure about that... maybe I should try remote TinyFugue first to see how bad it feels with constantly changing terminal size | 21:25 |
| * Tak shrugs | 21:25 | |
| pahartik | Tak: or do you mean that you have package already? | 21:27 |
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| Tak | pahartik: I mean I built it months ago | 21:55 |
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| ivlad | hi | 23:34 |
| ivlad | is there a way to get a internal jabber client connection log in maemo? | 23:35 |
| * ivlad cannot get jabber working | 23:35 | |
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| minra | clicking in the opera url text box while it is working is a sure way to crash it | 23:59 |
| minra | if it is building up a site, and you tap the textbox, it crashes | 23:59 |
| minra | can anyone verify? | 23:59 |
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