| ||cw | as well as `man screen` | 00:00 |
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| ||cw | bwhwhahahahhaha! just got a phishing email that used an ftp:// address with a username and password embeded in the url, so I ftp'd in with that login info and deleted the phishing files | 00:17 |
| Tak | wow | 00:21 |
| Tak | that's incompetence | 00:21 |
| Tak | would be great if there was a known exploit for his ftpd... | 00:22 |
| tbb | lol | 00:23 |
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| timeless | :( | 00:46 |
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| timeless | who's alive? | 00:54 |
| Tak | aliveish | 00:55 |
| timeless | um, don't recognize your face :( [recognize your from irc, but that's not useful] | 00:55 |
| timeless | can you give me an "easy" way to find out if there's a source package available for a pacakge that ships w/ os2006? | 00:58 |
| Tak | do you have a scratchbox installed? | 01:00 |
| timeless | i have a 770 :) | 01:00 |
| timeless | other than that, i do have a debian-solaris system w/ apt-get and access to the web :) | 01:01 |
| timeless | i'd rather not ssh to a box that has scratchbox if i can avoid it | 01:01 |
| timeless | and whatever scratchboxes i have probably don't have proper sources.lists for 2006 | 01:01 |
| timeless | is the sources.list file available from maemo.org? :) | 01:02 |
| Tak | not sure | 01:03 |
| ||cw | what are you going to do with a source package wihtout a scratchbox? | 01:03 |
| timeless | figure out whether or not a source pacakge exists for a given binary | 01:04 |
| timeless | hrm | 01:05 |
| timeless | looks like i only need http://maemo.org/downloads/download-sdk.html | 01:05 |
| ||cw | heh | 01:05 |
| ||cw | um, ok | 01:05 |
| * timeless goes to figure out if this works | 01:05 | |
| timeless | hrm, no | 01:05 |
| timeless | my script expects a list of packages | 01:05 |
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| timeless | ok | 01:25 |
| * timeless has a script that works | 01:25 | |
| timeless | i tested my script and it was able to find sources for a package named 'popt' | 01:26 |
| timeless | but not for the package i cared about | 01:26 |
| timeless | hrm | 01:27 |
| timeless | but i can't seem to find the pacakge at all | 01:27 |
| timeless | does the maemo repository have *every* binary package that's installed in the device? | 01:27 |
| timeless | is anyone else alive? | 01:29 |
| * timeless is really confused | 01:29 | |
| Tak | what's the package? | 01:30 |
| timeless | osso-rss-feed-reader | 01:30 |
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| timeless | ok, how about something simpler? :) | 01:43 |
| Tak | dunno, sorry, I don't mess with the core packages much | 01:46 |
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| timeless | ok, i think i have a package list | 02:04 |
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| Tak | whee - xmame, fceu, vba, and xmaeme are in the maemo garage extras repo now | 02:41 |
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| Jaffa | Morning, all | 10:48 |
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| timeless | not a good morning | 10:50 |
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| AD-N770 | good morning | 11:30 |
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| florian_kc | morning | 12:47 |
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| Guard][an | any update on sirocco + apophis ? | 12:55 |
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| ferenc | hello | 13:32 |
| timeless | hi | 13:32 |
| timeless | i need to bug you about something | 13:33 |
| timeless | but i don't remember what :( | 13:33 |
| timeless | ferenc: where's the source for os2005 on maemo.org? :) | 13:33 |
| ferenc | timeless: if you mean sources for the tablet OS, then we don't have it. | 13:36 |
| ferenc | we only had the sources of the stuff that was in the 1.0/1.1 SDKs | 13:36 |
| timeless | hrm, that's interesting | 13:36 |
| |tbb| | anyone uses dsniff on his n770 | 13:39 |
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| X-Fade | ferenc: Are you able to do something about the http://maemo.org/downloads/d3.php etc problem? | 14:17 |
| ferenc | ah, not again :( | 14:19 |
| ferenc | yes, i will fix it. | 14:19 |
| X-Fade | I reopened the bug ;) And made it critical level. | 14:19 |
| X-Fade | But bugs about that go to QA? | 14:20 |
| ferenc | X-Fade: depends who is the owner and QA contact | 14:22 |
| ferenc | anyway the d*.php's are fixed again | 14:22 |
| X-Fade | https://maemo.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=858 | 14:23 |
| ferenc | i will change the website product, i should be the owner of it | 14:24 |
| ferenc | well, the owner field seems to be OK for the website components in bugzilla. | 14:25 |
| ferenc | i don't know why #858 was assigned to qa, he will surely not fix these issues :) | 14:26 |
| X-Fade | I think it was first filed against another product. | 14:26 |
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| mndctrl | hi guys ;) I've just bought myself a 770 (the new 2006 OS, the one that ships with the nav-kit) | 15:15 |
| mndctrl | When adding repositories like: http://repository.meamo.org mistral free - just a very limited number of applications show up... | 15:16 |
| mndctrl | could this be because of different maemo versions? | 15:17 |
| Guard][an | anyone ever tried using code::blocks ide along with scratchbox+maemo ? | 15:17 |
| inz | mndctrl, add repositories with more applications =) | 15:18 |
| inz | mndctrl, IIRC repository.maemo.org only has osso-xterm | 15:19 |
| mndctrl | inz: but only two applications show up adding that rep... And browsing the rep, oh.. | 15:19 |
| mndctrl | oh, ok ;) | 15:19 |
| mndctrl | is there a list of reps I should add somewhere? | 15:19 |
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| inz | mndctrl, http://maemo.org/maemowiki/ApplicationRepositories | 15:22 |
| inz | mndctrl, the application manager only shows packages with sections that begin with user/ -- ones that are meant to be installed by end user | 15:22 |
| mndctrl | ah, ok.. other I need to use apt-get? | 15:23 |
| inz | yeah | 15:24 |
| VRe | Hmm, is the wiki somehow broken? Or why I can't modify applicationcatalog2006 as logged in user? | 15:25 |
| mndctrl | inz: I seem to have to be root in order to use apt-get !=? | 15:26 |
| Veggen | the red pill hack isn't that bad. Then, you'll see all packages. | 15:28 |
| inz | mndctrl, yes you do, you can get root by installing the becomeroot package | 15:33 |
| inz | mndctrl, or enabling r&d mode and doing sudo gainroot | 15:33 |
| inz | mndctrl, for the "red pill mode" Veggen suggested, see http://maemo.org/maemowiki/ApplicationManagerRedPillMode | 15:34 |
| Veggen | I ended up enabling r&d-mode and then adding an extra line to sudoers-file...that enables me to sudo any command. | 15:36 |
| Veggen | (with or without password, depending on whether you value security. I've of course set a password for the user) | 15:36 |
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| |tbb| | when the screen of the n770 go into suspend mode, will the wlan power also go down to 10mw | 15:56 |
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| robtaylor | dwd: could work, all thatwould be needed would be an sbuild that used scratchbox rather than a plain chrot | 15:59 |
| robtaylor | wow, my scrollback was waaay back, nm | 15:59 |
| dwd | robtaylor: Indeed. Took me a while to fault that page in. :-) | 16:07 |
| robtaylor | heh | 16:09 |
| |tbb| | rofl, chose the red or the blue pill | 16:09 |
| |tbb| | i like it | 16:09 |
| mndctrl | lool :P red pill mode was what I wanted! now chatting through the 770 :P | 16:11 |
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| robtaylor | mndctrl: isn't that the 'green pill' mode? ;) | 16:13 |
| mndctrl | sure, now you can call it whatever you feel like :P | 16:14 |
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| |tbb| | again someone knows that the wlan0 adapter going down to 10mw while the screen is off, or other question is there a possibility to setup diffrent wlan connections with diffrent power settings for the wlan card | 16:16 |
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| Jaffa | |tbb|: apparently 10/100mW doesn't make much difference to the power used when the chipset power requirements etc. are taken into account. The option is for regulatory compliance, not battery reasons. | 16:30 |
| roope | Yes, somewhere (like in France or something) the regulations dictate that the option must be there. | 16:32 |
| |tbb| | jaffa, have u used dsniff before | 16:33 |
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| Jaffa | |tbb|: nope | 17:00 |
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| |tbb| | this dasher input thing for the n770 is it good? | 17:16 |
| Tak | how does one upload a source package to the garage extras repo? | 17:18 |
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| timeless | ask ferenc ;-) | 17:19 |
| Tak | lol | 17:19 |
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| Tak | "mistral/scirocco is supposed to be used for development only" ? | 17:26 |
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| timeless | i think that means don't install it on your device :) | 17:28 |
| Tak | I thought they were shipping with mistral... | 17:30 |
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| timeless | thinking is hazardous to my health | 17:31 |
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| florian_kc | I have an improved syncing daemon available (unpackaged binary) | 18:11 |
| florian_kc | http://linuxtogo.org/~florian/files/gpesyncd | 18:11 |
| koen | package it :) | 18:12 |
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| nelson | So is it just me, or is Nokia systematicaly repeating all the mistakes that hh.org made? | 18:15 |
| nelson | (e.g. starting off with a gazillion repos rather than one centralized one?) | 18:16 |
| timeless | it's not as bad as it looks. it's worse :) | 18:18 |
| timeless | what's hh? | 18:18 |
| timeless | happy hearts? | 18:18 |
| florian_kc | nelson: to be honest, multiple repos were the least important mistakes hh.org made | 18:18 |
| florian_kc | timeless: handhelds.org... forget it :-( | 18:19 |
| timeless | hrm, something else to index | 18:19 |
| * timeless plans it | 18:19 | |
| timeless | atually, 285g would blow my budget | 18:20 |
| timeless | s/t/ct/ | 18:20 |
| florian_kc | budgect? ;) | 18:20 |
| timeless | regexp's are first come first serve =b | 18:21 |
| nelson | florian_kc: I'm just pointing out there there's a lot of wisdom being lost by not looking at what hh.org has done. | 18:22 |
| timeless | but it's so much fun to make more mistakes than your predecessors! | 18:22 |
| nelson | er, maybe so, but I'm of the opinion that mistakes shouldn't be repeated. | 18:22 |
| Pio | at least you dont have to do the work of coming up with original excuses | 18:23 |
| timeless | i hope you don't think you're alone in that opinion | 18:23 |
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| Darknesss | hi, which one should I install? maemo rootstrap 2.0 or 2.1? | 19:32 |
| Darknesss | the tutorial still mentions the 2.0 but the tutorial is about installing 2.1... | 19:33 |
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| waite | florian_kc, does your gpe syncd actully publish and subscribe to calendars (IE schedule world?? | 20:12 |
| koen | waite: no, gpesyncd is a conduit between the database and opensync | 20:13 |
| florian_kc | waite: no, that's done by gpe-calendar itself | 20:13 |
| waite | florian, I thought gpe-calendar only supported publish *or* subscribe, not both | 20:14 |
| waite | koen. thx I get it now | 20:14 |
| koen | waite: gpe-calendar can subscribe to .ics calendards, though | 20:15 |
| waite | koen, right I am subscribed to my schedule world cal but I cannot publish to it from what I understand | 20:15 |
| waite | It is one or the other I thought | 20:15 |
| Guard][an | is it possible to alter definition files to change the vkb layout ? | 20:16 |
| koen | gpe-calendar can push to anything libsoup supports iirc | 20:16 |
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| waite | koen, So do I setup 2 calendars? One to publish to SW and one to subcribe to it? | 20:21 |
| koen | one should work afaik | 20:22 |
| * koen wonders where neal is hiding | 20:22 | |
| waite | koen, is neal a better target :) | 20:23 |
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| koen | he wrote the libsoup part :) | 20:23 |
| waite | Because my calendar options are Local,Publish, Subscribe. I do not see a Publish and subscribe. | 20:23 |
| waite | Ill keep my eye open then and quite beating on you | 20:24 |
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| roope | oh, engadget. | 20:47 |
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| mgedmin | but why oh why make the newer device uglier than the old one? | 20:54 |
| koen | and no slide on cover | 20:54 |
| koen | I like the slide on cover | 20:55 |
| Tak | ditto | 20:55 |
| koen | and looking at the dents, it doesn't like me :) | 20:55 |
| koen | the "180MB" seems a bit weird | 20:57 |
| Tak | I wonder how much faster the cpu is | 20:57 |
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| koen | probably 64MB ram + 116 MB nand | 20:58 |
| koen | Tak: if it's an omap it might be 330MHz | 20:58 |
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| Tak | hm | 20:58 |
| * koen hopes for an omap with vfp | 20:58 | |
| mgedmin | the 770 has 64 mb ram + 128 mb nand | 20:58 |
| mgedmin | I'm pretty sure they didn't shrink the "disk" | 20:58 |
| koen | mgedmin: kernel + initfs + bootloader subtracted? | 20:59 |
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| mgedmin | ah, no, I was counting the total, not the available capacity | 20:59 |
| Tak | hmm - SD under the battery cover? | 21:00 |
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| kender | hi | 21:13 |
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| X-Fade | Hmm weird bump on the back/top of that 870. | 21:18 |
| myren | oooh | 21:18 |
| Tak | from the one top/back view, it just looks like the fs, zoom, power buttons | 21:20 |
| Tak | or do you mean the ridge above the battery case? | 21:20 |
| X-Fade | No, i mean that the back isn't flat. | 21:20 |
| Tak | ah | 21:21 |
| myren | wheres the 870 pr0n you guys are looking at? | 21:22 |
| X-Fade | http://www.engadget.com/2006/11/28/a-few-more-spy-shots-of-nokias-870-internet-tablet/ | 21:22 |
| myren | figures | 21:22 |
| mgedmin | hey, there's more than was on the front page | 21:22 |
| X-Fade | In the second image you can see that thicker top part.. | 21:22 |
| X-Fade | mgedmin: 'Click here for more info' :) | 21:23 |
| myren | i've been waiting for the next iter for a while | 21:23 |
| X-Fade | Actually it was 'Continue reading A few more spy shots of Nokia's 870 Internet Tablet' | 21:23 |
| kender | but, what you think guys? wait util it apears or buy it now, very cheap? (280€) | 21:23 |
| myren | still dont have a 770 | 21:24 |
| kender | I don't know what to do | 21:24 |
| X-Fade | I think it is ugly. | 21:24 |
| mgedmin | hmm... it looks thicker than the 770... I don't like that | 21:24 |
| Tak | kender: 770 will be even cheaper after the 870 comes out | 21:24 |
| X-Fade | And that camera, don't think I will use it much. | 21:24 |
| myren | the 870 is uglier. :/ | 21:25 |
| kender | Tak, yes, but I can get it so cheap (280) | 21:25 |
| kender | at nokia shop, it cost 350 | 21:25 |
| myren | kender, you dont live in MD do you? | 21:25 |
| mgedmin | or is it actually thinner for the most part? | 21:25 |
| kender | MD? | 21:25 |
| kender | I'm from spain | 21:25 |
| kender | hehe | 21:25 |
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| myren | uhhh never mind | 21:25 |
| Tak | apparently I paid about 260 eur for mine | 21:26 |
| mgedmin | the camera looks like a cell phone antenna | 21:26 |
| kender | Tak, where? | 21:26 |
| Tak | texas ;-) | 21:26 |
| kender | hehehe | 21:26 |
| X-Fade | Well some of us only paid 100 euro ;) | 21:26 |
| Tak | :-P | 21:26 |
| kender | but, through internet? | 21:26 |
| X-Fade | Yep, direct.nokia | 21:26 |
| kender | well, tell me me how | 21:27 |
| kender | xDD | 21:27 |
| Tak | mgedmin: the comments make it sound like it's thinner overall | 21:27 |
| X-Fade | You're about one year too late :) | 21:27 |
| mgedmin | thin is good | 21:27 |
| mgedmin | I loved my Palm m500 | 21:27 |
| kender | X-Fade, yes...I suppose.. | 21:27 |
| mgedmin | (until I dropped it one time too many and it stopped working) | 21:27 |
| kender | so, any place to get it cheap? | 21:28 |
| kender | wait till the new one appear? | 21:28 |
| X-Fade | Too bad they didn't ask the users what they want. And what they like. | 21:28 |
| myren | yea/win 3 | 21:28 |
| myren | pardon | 21:28 |
| kender | to get it cheap? | 21:28 |
| myren | maybe they'll magically read our minds and put in gps | 21:28 |
| myren | and improve that DSP | 21:28 |
| kender | X-Fade, yes... | 21:28 |
| X-Fade | More RAM, better CPU ;) | 21:30 |
| myren | what hte current cpu? | 21:30 |
| myren | its not an omap is it | 21:31 |
| kender | well, my old pda, a sony cassiopeia, have more CPU than the 770, and is 7 or more years old | 21:31 |
| kender | ^^ | 21:31 |
| koen | a beefier cpu wouldn't help a lot | 21:33 |
| * mgedmin would prefer better optimized software + the current cpu + longer battery life than current software + faster cpu + shorter battery life | 21:33 | |
| koen | better graphics thingy would make more sense | 21:33 |
| Tak | ditto @ mgedmin | 21:34 |
| mgedmin | the cairo performance work that is happening now is inspiring | 21:34 |
| timeless | where can you get it for 280?) | 21:35 |
| Tak | hardware accelerated 3d would be cool, although probably of limited usefulness for the majority of apps/users | 21:35 |
| * mgedmin tries to imagine compiz with wobbly windows on the 770 and fails | 21:35 | |
| * rev is a wobbly! | 21:35 | |
| kender | timeless, a friend of mine.... | 21:35 |
| Tak | lol | 21:35 |
| kender | have some of them | 21:35 |
| myren | omap3 is being built to accelerate opengl es | 21:35 |
| kender | mgedmin, hehe | 21:36 |
| myren | cairo is such a dog | 21:36 |
| myren | even with a $600 video card | 21:36 |
| myren | i just dont understand how such a simple drawing library can perform so mother f'ing slow | 21:36 |
| zumbi | !hi | 21:36 |
| myren | !hello | 21:37 |
| rev | !yo | 21:37 |
| myren | !rules | 21:37 |
| zumbi | :-) | 21:37 |
| myren | oh wait | 21:37 |
| kender | hey zumbi | 21:37 |
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| rev | @myzoombie Herbert, Frank - Dune [txt v4].zip | 21:37 |
| kender | rev, a good book ;-) | 21:37 |
| rev | kender: indeed | 21:38 |
| zumbi | i got a bluetooth Nokia GPS module :-) | 21:38 |
| Tak | classic | 21:38 |
| zumbi | maemo mapper does fine, but gpsdrive is a little more tricky | 21:38 |
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| timeless | cairo is anything but simple | 21:40 |
| Tak | I prefer pdf for ebooks | 21:40 |
| kender | me too | 21:40 |
| timeless | os2005 is the best choice for pdf :) | 21:40 |
| X-Fade | They are working hard to improve cairo. But if you can do better, please offer them your services :) | 21:41 |
| kender | timeless, why? | 21:41 |
| timeless | 2006's reader won't open google ebooks :( | 21:41 |
| * rev is very impressed with the PDF reader in 2006 | 21:42 | |
| rev | the stock PDF reader, even | 21:42 |
| rev | it beats out anything on the Zaurus or on CE/PPC | 21:42 |
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| rev | faster than other readers are even on a 624 MHz Axim on Windows Mobile | 21:42 |
| Tak | yeah, it handled my signed first-edition scan of The Gunslinger perfectly | 21:42 |
| rev | with the exception of the Picsel Browser, but you can't buy that | 21:42 |
| rev | even though it runs on Linux/Qt and WinCE-derivatives | 21:42 |
| timeless | i had rally bad experiences w/ someone's evince port, i need to track them down and complain | 21:43 |
| kender | rev, is nice to hear that | 21:43 |
| rev | which bugs the hell out of me... but until you can buy it for your device, the n770's PDF reader is quite impressive | 21:43 |
| rev | it is fast, renders text quickly enough... the N770 is the first tiem i've actually read PDFs on a device, except for checking a bus schedule quick out of bare need. | 21:43 |
| rev | it was always too painful a process. most of this is the speed and usability of the built-in PDF reader, part of it is the resolution; but i've used a good PDF reader on Palm OS (Picsel Viewer), on a lower res device (480x320) that was a bit better, but that's because the app is so great; my point being resolution isn't the main factor here | 21:44 |
| rev | timeless: yeah, people keep saying you need evince, but for me it's just slow... ymmv | 21:44 |
| kender | http://www.engadget.com/2006/11/28/a-few-more-spy-shots-of-nokias-870-internet-tablet/ | 21:45 |
| kender | the theme is different or isn't the it06? | 21:45 |
| Tak | comments say it's os2006 | 21:45 |
| kender | ok | 21:45 |
| rev | looks like os06 with a theme, that's all | 21:46 |
| rev | the icons are all the same and in the same spots | 21:46 |
| rev | just skinned | 21:46 |
| timeless | evince just caused my device to reboot fairly consistently | 21:46 |
| timeless | it turns out there's more than one evince provider, you don't want the one i chose :) | 21:46 |
| rev | i like the new stand looking thing on the 870... also looks like a buigger battery, much bigger. does anyone else see a USB port? | 21:47 |
| rev | http://www.blogsmithmedia.com/www.engadget.com/media/2006/11/nokia-870-1.jpg | 21:47 |
| rev | http://www.blogsmithmedia.com/www.engadget.com/media/2006/11/nokia-870-4.jpg | 21:48 |
| rev | at the bottom | 21:48 |
| Tak | I saw the small usb port like the 770 | 21:48 |
| rev | oh, ok | 21:48 |
| rev | bummer | 21:48 |
| rev | if it had usb host port i'd buy one of these immediately | 21:48 |
| kender | hehehe | 21:48 |
| kender | I think that will be difficult | 21:49 |
| kender | no battery | 21:49 |
| kender | no way | 21:49 |
| kender | xD | 21:49 |
| Tak | lot of the ports/plugs apparently got moved to the right side | 21:49 |
| kender | yes, and the cover of the battery, is big | 21:50 |
| Tak | right, but if you look at the third pic, the battery only takes up like 1/2 to 2/3 of the space underneath | 21:50 |
| kender | yes, so....what is in the other "hole"? | 21:51 |
| rev | indeed | 21:51 |
| kender | in the other...part | 21:51 |
| kender | xD | 21:51 |
| Tak | apparently an SD slot | 21:51 |
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| kender | sorry my poor english | 21:51 |
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| arj | hi | 22:11 |
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| arj | would it be a good idea to upgrade to maemo 2.1 and how do I do that? | 22:29 |
| koen | dunno and reflash | 22:29 |
| arj | do you have a url with instructions? | 22:32 |
| ||cw | 2.1 is IT2006? | 22:33 |
| ||cw | guess not | 22:33 |
| Tak | it's it2006 second release, isn't it? | 22:33 |
| ||cw | http://maemo.org/downloads/releases.html | 22:34 |
| ||cw | it2007? | 22:34 |
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| Tak | "New SDK matching the latest IT OS 2006 edition" | 22:39 |
| arj | where can I find information on setting up a development enviroment so that I can test on my pc? | 22:47 |
| Tak | http://maemo.org/platform/docs/tutorials/Maemo_tutorial.html#settingup | 22:48 |
| arj | excellent | 22:48 |
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| florian | re | 23:23 |
| rev | oi | 23:28 |
| Tak | Tak! | 23:29 |
| rev | TAK! | 23:29 |
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| rev | what does re even stand for? | 23:29 |
| Jaffa | sort of "re-hello", "re-welcome" type thing. | 23:29 |
| bhima | REgarding? Regular Expression? | 23:29 |
| Tak | rhinoceros enema | 23:30 |
| rev | ahh ok | 23:30 |
| rev | i always read it as rejoin | 23:30 |
| rev | like hi guys, i rejoined the channel | 23:30 |
| rev | not sure why | 23:30 |
| rev | it's one of those irc slang questions i just never asked about :P | 23:30 |
| Jaffa | works that way too. I'm not sure there's any consensus on what it means | 23:30 |
| Jaffa | Just a shared understanding of the concept | 23:30 |
| bhima | It's not just on IRC, though. My e-mail client likes to use it in replies. | 23:30 |
| rev | bhima: but that is different | 23:31 |
| Jaffa | :) | 23:31 |
| rev | derr derr derr! | 23:31 |
| bhima | It might be different, or it might not be. Maybe one started the other. | 23:31 |
| rev | bhima: well, yeahm, we know it's differe | 23:32 |
| rev | bhima: Re: for an email originated in written memos, meaning regarding | 23:32 |
| rev | maybe the irc use comes from the memo/email usage, but the meaning is pretty different, so it seems unlikely | 23:33 |
| Guardian | anyone ever made a tutorial on how to program the dsp on the 770 ? | 23:34 |
| rev | what does the dsp get used for? sound? | 23:35 |
| rev | i mean, does it have any auxillary use with the 770 now? decoding of mp3s or something? | 23:35 |
| Guardian | i want to speed up scalar products | 23:36 |
| waite | How can I get new radio stations to show up in the internet radio applet? | 23:40 |
| rev | waite: i just edited the file manuially | 23:41 |
| rev | waite: but i thin kyou can add the stream to your 'favorites' list and it'll show up, after a reboot | 23:41 |
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| rev | waite: i don't have my 770 on me now, but it's in a dot file, or a file in a dot-folder in your home directory... called .favorites or something along those lines | 23:42 |
| waite | rev, thx. I missed the 'add to favortives nuaince | 23:45 |
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| waite | It actually works without reboot also | 23:50 |
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| brendan | cat /proc/mdstat | 23:57 |
| brendan | oops | 23:57 |
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