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| MSCHOEN | Wow, this channel has really grown since I was last year 6 months ago. | 00:14 |
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| Tak | last year was nearly 11 months ago | 00:18 |
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| MSCHOEN | ack, you are right, my mind is scattered right now trying to read all the latest posts on itt.com - Ive been deployed over seas for 6 months and I finally upgraded to 2006OS. | 00:19 |
| MSCHOEN | A few more neat features... most of which I probably wont use ;P | 00:19 |
| daniels | still not quite as good as the person who told us he'd been using ubuntu in his school for two years. that was september 2005. | 00:19 |
| MSCHOEN | tigert: how have you been? | 00:20 |
| Tak | or employers who require 8 years of c# experience? | 00:20 |
| ||cw | once saw a php5 req that would required a coder to have started using php5 at beta1 | 00:26 |
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| tigert | MSCHOEN: well. but now I must sleep & | 00:33 |
| tigert | MSCHOEN: thanks for asking, I'll be back tomorrow | 00:33 |
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| Jaffa | Morning, all | 11:07 |
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| pv2b | i've got what must seem like an incredibly silly question. how on earth do you reboot a nokia 770? :-) i've seen it referenced in countless places, but never does it say *how* to actually reboot it... | 14:00 |
| daniels | take the battery out | 14:01 |
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| pv2b | that simple? no magic reset hole? no weird key combinations? no hidden deep menu options? | 14:01 |
| daniels | hold down the power button? | 14:01 |
| nomis | pv2b: well, press the power button and select "switch off" from the menu that appears. | 14:01 |
| pv2b | nomis: does it actually reboot or just go into some kind of weird sleep? | 14:02 |
| daniels | there's a magic reset hole on the button of the device: poke something conductive into it, and the mic will short quite badly. but that's probably not what you want ;) | 14:02 |
| daniels | pv2b: 'switch off' actually switches the thing off | 14:02 |
| daniels | unexpectedly | 14:02 |
| pv2b | wow. i'm just so used to devices which lie about what they're doing as to not confuse people | 14:02 |
| pv2b | oh, right. i see what i was doing wrong. i was leaving the charger in. | 14:03 |
| inz | Yeah in that case it doesn't shut really down. | 14:04 |
| inz | Also if there's an alarm soon (minute or two), the device doesn't really shut down. | 14:05 |
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| tigert | pv2b: I just take the battery out if I want to be really sure... :) | 14:48 |
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| shapr | Good Morning Finland! | 15:17 |
| dpb | Afternoon. o_o | 15:18 |
| bergie | tigert: anything new about the application catalog layout? | 15:23 |
| tigert | not yet | 15:27 |
| tigert | but hmm, just put the content there and I'll style it. basically I want: | 15:27 |
| tigert | ----------------------------------------------------------- | 15:27 |
| tigert | .------. *Maemo Mapper* <link) v1.0 : .-. | 15:27 |
| tigert | | shot | : _| |_ | 15:27 |
| tigert | | | Maemo Mapper is a nice and light : \ / | 15:27 |
| tigert | `------' weight map viewer that can also : \_/ | 15:27 |
| tigert | work with a gps device etc : install now! | 15:27 |
| tigert | ------------------------------------------------------------ | 15:28 |
| tigert | 15:28 | |
| tigert | something like this | 15:28 |
| tigert | and the "box" left and right sides will have a color bar like the submenus | 15:28 |
| tigert | that indicate OS2005 / OS2006 I think | 15:28 |
| tigert | ie, os2006 apps could have an orange sideborder | 15:28 |
| tigert | but that can be done later; just take it into account that it might be needed to style them | 15:29 |
| tigert | the install now - thing has an icon that points to the .install file | 15:29 |
| tigert | and the title takes the viewer to the detailed page | 15:29 |
| tigert | which I havent thought of much yet, but it could be pretty similar | 15:29 |
| tigert | just more info | 15:29 |
| tigert | does that help you? | 15:29 |
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| mgedmin | wooh, pretty ascii art | 15:39 |
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| bergie | tigert: yeah... using colors for different OSs based on the primary color scheme of that release's default template sounds nice | 15:46 |
| tigert | yep | 15:47 |
| tigert | bergie: so what I am thinking is something like | 15:47 |
| tigert | # # | 15:48 |
| tigert | # # | 15:48 |
| tigert | # # | 15:48 |
| tigert | # # | 15:48 |
| tigert | # # | 15:48 |
| tigert | 15:48 | |
| tigert | for the colors | 15:48 |
| tigert | ie, on the sides | 15:48 |
| bergie | +1 | 15:48 |
| ab | they look the same | 15:48 |
| tigert | heh | 15:48 |
| ab | or I'm using wrong IRC client | 15:48 |
| tigert | ab: thats because you have a monochrome font!!!! ;^) | 15:48 |
| ab | :-) | 15:48 |
| tigert | bergie: ie, border-left: 8px solid #c0ffee | 15:49 |
| tigert | or something | 15:49 |
| tigert | (#coffee is horrible colour) | 15:49 |
| Knirch | haven't seen colored fonts since deluxepaint 4 | 15:49 |
| tigert | #c0ff33 evem | 15:49 |
| tigert | or #c0ffee | 15:49 |
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| alp | i get "unable to complete secure transaction" when i connect to ssl sites in the browser (tried google mail and garage.maemo.org), is there a fix? | 18:11 |
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| bedboi | hi there | 18:22 |
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| shapr | alp: Haven't seen that problem, can you give more details? | 18:48 |
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| alp | it's the final '06 firmware, and the opera browser. just going to gmail.com triggers a message dialog with that error and with an expanded url | 18:50 |
| alp | (a redirect i guess) | 18:51 |
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| Tak | I have the same firmware and browser; I don't get this | 18:56 |
| alp | i recently went to Tools and cleared all history, etc. in the browser | 19:00 |
| alp | maybe it wiped ssl certs by mistake? | 19:00 |
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| alp | well, i'd hope that they're installed read only for the ordinary user actually | 19:00 |
| shapr | I think certs are handled in the control panel. | 19:02 |
| sp3000 | alp: did google on the error msg help? I see a bunch of relevant-looking hits | 19:02 |
| alp | sp3000: i had a brief look earlier but didn't find replies | 19:03 |
| alp | http://www.ndesk.org/tmp/maemo-gmail-error.jpg for reference | 19:05 |
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| sp3000 | alp: could something funny have happened to your proxy settings? | 19:10 |
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| sp3000 | alp: see http://thoughtfix.blogspot.com/2006_06_25_archive.html (look for "Update 3" | 19:15 |
| sp3000 | alp: which refers to https://beta.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=20105749&postID=115181529954125513 | 19:16 |
| sp3000 | which suggests your clock is set to the future | 19:16 |
| sp3000 | (dst ftw!) | 19:16 |
| sp3000 | omg unbalanced parens | 19:16 |
| sp3000 | ) | 19:16 |
| * sp3000 will blame dst for anything | 19:20 | |
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| alp | fixing the clock did it. cheers! | 19:40 |
| sp3000 | np :) | 19:51 |
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| shapr | Man, I had a maemo question, but I can't remember it... | 22:32 |
| jobi | heh | 22:32 |
| Tak | no soup for you! | 22:32 |
| shapr | Let's see... I've already asked about the alarm framework status. (answer: Still in legal check) | 22:33 |
| IkeKrull | i just wish my 770s would actually connect to my wifi LANs | 22:34 |
| Tak | I wish I could connect to a WEP+PEAP LAN | 22:34 |
| IkeKrull | my problem is with WDS... the Nokia connects, but wont work for more than about 30 seconds or so before dropping off | 22:35 |
| IkeKrull | hopefully the open source prism54 guys will get their driver functional and stable soon | 22:36 |
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| shapr | Probably not much point in asking for the contacts app to be open sourced so I can add a phone number field... | 22:39 |
| shapr | I'd like to see maemowiki pages that document ad-hoc network experience :-) | 22:57 |
| * mgedmin is wondering if/when somebody will start to develop a completely open set of applications based on Maemo, as an alternative to IT2006 | 22:58 | |
| mgedmin | I think I saw a mailing list post from a Nokia developer that explained ad-hoc networking on the 770 nicely | 22:58 |
| daniels | mgedmin: http://projects.o-hand.com/poky | 22:58 |
| Veggen | I'd really like to be able to hook into more parts of the OS. Like, the networking stuff (for example to implement PAN) | 22:59 |
| * mgedmin initially expected all software (except for Opera, and maybe some hardware drivers) to be open-source | 22:59 | |
| IkeKrull | i've been looking at completely bypassing all the networking stuff but wpa_supplicant doesnt work with the nokia driver | 22:59 |
| ||cw | shapr: tried the GPE pim apps? | 23:00 |
| IkeKrull | opie (Qt based PIM environment) can also run on the 770.. lacks power management though | 23:00 |
| Tak | IkeKrull: I ran into that as well | 23:01 |
| IkeKrull | my clients project is a qt-embedded app | 23:01 |
| IkeKrull | got that working pretty well | 23:01 |
| shapr | ||cw: I don't think I've tried it yet, but does it integrate into the google talk contacts part? | 23:02 |
| ||cw | shapr: not yet, but it is a full contacts app, with mutliple phone and address per person support and all that goodness | 23:02 |
| shapr | neat | 23:03 |
| ||cw | to be fait, I don't know if anyone is working it either | 23:03 |
| ||cw | fair^ | 23:03 |
| shapr | mgedmin: Any keywords I can use for the nokia dev ad-hoc post? | 23:03 |
| ||cw | google talk is pretty new in the linux world | 23:03 |
| mgedmin | shapr: Message-ID: <87y7thyo0w.fsf@nokia.com> | 23:04 |
| shapr | mgedmin: excellent =) | 23:04 |
| mgedmin | Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2006 15:04:47 +0300 | 23:04 |
| mgedmin | Subject: Re: [maemo-users] link local and adhoc networks... | 23:04 |
| mgedmin | From: Kalle Valo | 23:04 |
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| Ayoze | hi all | 23:12 |
| Ayoze | one question... where to find libsdl-net1.2? I need it to install battlegweled.. | 23:12 |
| jobi | http://repository.maemo.org/pool/mistral/free/libs/libsdl-net1.2/libsdl-net1.2_1.2.5-osso1_armel.deb | 23:14 |
| Ayoze | thanks jobi :) | 23:15 |
| jobi | you are welcome, it's a bug it's in the SDK but not on device | 23:17 |
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| Ayoze | jobi: not on the device? | 23:18 |
| Ayoze | i'm talking about the device | 23:18 |
| guru3 | anyone seen any good 3d stuff on the 770? | 23:18 |
| jobi | Ayoze: I mean that itÃ's not shipped on the device | 23:19 |
| jobi | Ayoze: but that package should work | 23:19 |
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| Ayoze | i cant install that package on the device :S | 23:19 |
| jobi | Ayoze: hmm you may have to use dpkg directly | 23:23 |
| Ayoze | I'm using the application installer | 23:23 |
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| jobi | Ayoze: this is so broken. You would need to get it from an apt repository, but using the maemo scratchbox repository where this package is breaks other things | 23:27 |
| jobi | Ayoze: does this one work for you: http://people.via.ecp.fr/~jobi/libsdl-net1.2_1.2.5-osso1_armel.deb ? | 23:35 |
| Ayoze | do you mean... installing from the app installer? | 23:35 |
| jobi | yes | 23:36 |
| jobi | I recompiled it and tried to make it AI friendly | 23:36 |
| Ayoze | ok, one sec | 23:36 |
| Ayoze | jobi: no :( | 23:36 |
| shapr | I agree that a debian repository should never hold packages for the device if it holds packages that only work in scratchbox and will kill the device. | 23:38 |
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| jobi | Ayoze: I updated http://people.via.ecp.fr/~jobi/libsdl-net1.2_1.2.5-osso1_armel.deb | 23:42 |
| jobi | works for my AI now | 23:42 |
| Ayoze | jobi: ok, one sec, ill try | 23:42 |
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| Ayoze | jobi: yeah, it works ! | 23:43 |
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| jobi | Ayoze: cool | 23:44 |
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| Ayoze | thanks jobi :) | 23:44 |
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| jobi | Ayoze: you're welcome, this repository screw up is a bit embarassing to say the least | 23:52 |
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