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| MKChris | Hi is there a way of monitoring for call connected using /com/nokia/csd/ I can't find anything in the docs | 00:50 |
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| Ken-Young | I have a Maemo 5 application (orrery) which I am trying to get loaded into the Extras-devel catalog. The package built, without errors, about 20 hours ago. However, it does not yet appear in the Extras-devel catalog, at least as seen by my N900. Are there often long delays between autobuilder building a package, and the time that package appears in the Extras-devel catalog? If not, is there a way that I can tell why t | 01:17 |
| Ken-Young | he application did not appear in the catalog? | 01:17 |
| VDVsx | gonna check, but it takes a while to propagate the changes | 01:23 |
| VDVsx | oh 20 hours, not 20 min :p | 01:23 |
| Ken-Young | VDVsx, Yeah - 20 hours. Thanks for checking. | 01:23 |
| VDVsx | current version there is orrery 3.0.8-1 | 01:24 |
| Ken-Young | VDVsx, Yup. | 01:24 |
| VDVsx | is that one that you are looking for ? | 01:24 |
| VDVsx | or did you upload a new version ? | 01:24 |
| VDVsx | *uploaded | 01:25 |
| Ken-Young | VDVsx, Yes, 3.0.8-1 is the version I uploaded yesterday, but I can't find that version, or any other, in the catalog. | 01:25 |
| VDVsx | in the n900 ? | 01:25 |
| Ken-Young | Right | 01:26 |
| Ken-Young | I've activated the Extras-devel catalog on the N900, of course. | 01:26 |
| VDVsx | ok, gonna check here, If I find my device :p | 01:26 |
| VDVsx | I've it here | 01:29 |
| VDVsx | the short description is a bit strange | 01:30 |
| VDVsx | Ken-Young, ^ | 01:30 |
| VDVsx | is enclosed in < | 01:30 |
| VDVsx | it's in user/science | 01:30 |
| VDVsx | installing | 01:31 |
| Ken-Young | Where does it show up? Under Science? Under All? I've looked under Science and All, and I've used the search feature, but I can't find it. | 01:31 |
| VDVsx | science | 01:31 |
| Ken-Young | VDVsx, Thanks for giving it a try... | 01:31 |
| VDVsx | did you tried to update ? | 01:31 |
| Ken-Young | Yup | 01:31 |
| VDVsx | try again, HAM is picky :) | 01:31 |
| VDVsx | can be the a problem in the mirrors | 01:32 |
| Ken-Young | What's HAM? | 01:32 |
| VDVsx | the application manager | 01:32 |
| VDVsx | humm, seems to crash here, at least it exits immediately | 01:33 |
| VDVsx | Ken-Young, Nokia-N900-51-1:~# orrery | 01:34 |
| VDVsx | Wrong number (1) of numbers found on line 1 of /usr/share/orrery/orbitalElements/mercuryElements | 01:34 |
| Ken-Young | VDVsx, Oh, is your language set to something other than english? Perhaps a language that uses commas to separate the integer and fractional portions of a printed floating point number? | 01:35 |
| Ken-Young | In other words, 3,14159265 rather than 3.14159265 ? | 01:36 |
| VDVsx | you need also to fix the short description and add icons :D | 01:36 |
| VDVsx | yes | 01:36 |
| VDVsx | I'm using Portuguese | 01:36 |
| VDVsx | gonna change to ENG and try | 01:36 |
| * SpeedEvil waits for fennec to finish download before trying install. | 01:36 | |
| Ken-Young | Oh, My program was originally written for Openmoko phones. I had that problem on that platform, and I fixed it. Perhaps the fix doesn't work for Maemo. | 01:37 |
| VDVsx | I used it in OpenMoko, but AFAIR I only had English as a option :D | 01:37 |
| Ken-Young | VDVsx, I really thought I had it fixed for OM. I guess I didn't. | 01:38 |
| Ken-Young | VDVsx, What does the short description say? | 01:40 |
| Ken-Young | (my N900 still doesn't see it after update) | 01:40 |
| VDVsx | something inside <> | 01:41 |
| VDVsx | the package interface at maemo.org doesn't like it | 01:41 |
| VDVsx | also you should use these chars in the short description | 01:42 |
| VDVsx | a ending dot is also not allowed | 01:42 |
| Ken-Young | OK, that's a good tip. I'll fix that. | 01:43 |
| Ken-Young | VDVsx, Did it work in English? | 01:43 |
| VDVsx | yes | 01:44 |
| Ken-Young | OK, that'll give me a good thing to try to fix this weekend. | 01:44 |
| Ken-Young | (then language sensitivity) | 01:44 |
| Ken-Young | s/then/the/ | 01:44 |
| VDVsx | other bug when you're inside one of the menu options, you can choose other option from the menu, until you hit the ok button in the current option | 01:45 |
| Ken-Young | VDVsx, Can you tell if "optification" worked properly? | 01:46 |
| Ken-Young | /usr/bin/orrery and /usr/share/orrery should be links to /opt/... | 01:46 |
| VDVsx | Ken-Young, bin is right: Nokia-N900-51-1:/usr/bin# ls -la orrery | 01:50 |
| VDVsx | lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 25 Jan 22 23:30 orrery -> /opt/maemo/usr/bin/orrery | 01:50 |
| VDVsx | 01:50 | |
| woglinde_ | hi ken-young | 01:51 |
| Ken-Young | Hi woglinde_ ! | 01:51 |
| jebba | hey woglinde_ Ken-Young ! ;) | 01:51 |
| Ken-Young | hey jebba ! | 01:51 |
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| woglinde | damn my wife let me sleep again | 01:54 |
| sluo | does someone know whether the Diablo extras promotion interface is supposed to be working? | 01:54 |
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| VDVsx | sluo, dunno, gonna check, but they are making changes to the interface, will be integrated inside the package interface used to maemo5 | 02:03 |
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| VDVsx | sluo, 404 here | 02:05 |
| sluo | :( | 02:07 |
| sluo | oh well, thanks | 02:07 |
| VDVsx | gtg, g'night :) | 02:09 |
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| Ken-Young | VDVsx, Thanks again for testing my app. | 02:11 |
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| * SpeedEvil installs orrwery. | 02:19 | |
| Ken-Young | SpeedEvil, Thanks! I got some good bug reports from VDVsx. | 02:20 |
| SpeedEvil | Starts, and I get a starfield in portrait mode | 02:21 |
| SpeedEvil | with constellation names | 02:22 |
| Ken-Young | There is documentation here: http://wiki.maemo.org/Orrery | 02:23 |
| Ken-Young | Tapping the display toggles constellation mode on/off, Tapping near the bottom pans azimuth. | 02:23 |
| SpeedEvil | how to zoom - if possible - is unclear. panning works | 02:23 |
| Ken-Young | Circle an area with your finger to zoom. | 02:24 |
| Ken-Young | long-tap (>1/3 second) unzooms. | 02:24 |
| Ken-Young | Other displays available from the menu. | 02:24 |
| SpeedEvil | ah | 02:25 |
| Ken-Young | THere are still lots of problems. I wanted to push out an early version to get suggestions for improvements, along with bug reports. | 02:27 |
| Ken-Young | GPS doesn't work yet, etc. | 02:27 |
| SpeedEvil | you have to 'ok/cancel' out of dialogs. | 02:27 |
| SpeedEvil | you can't just pick a new screen | 02:27 |
| Ken-Young | Yeah, it needs a LOT more "hildonization". | 02:27 |
| SpeedEvil | there is a trivially read xml file with last position | 02:28 |
| Ken-Young | The worst thing is that the numeric input fields can only be modified with the arrow keys. | 02:28 |
| Ken-Young | SpeedEvil, Oh - I didn't know that. Is it documented on the Wiki? | 02:28 |
| SpeedEvil | ./var/lib/gconf/system/nokia/location/lastknown/%gconf.xml | 02:29 |
| Ken-Young | I was planning on going though DBUS. | 02:29 |
| SpeedEvil | don;'t think so | 02:29 |
| SpeedEvil | the right thing is clearly to use the live GPS | 02:29 |
| SpeedEvil | but... | 02:29 |
| Ken-Young | SpeedEvil, Does that file get location info from both cell towers and GPS? | 02:29 |
| SpeedEvil | yes | 02:30 |
| Ken-Young | Cool | 02:30 |
| SpeedEvil | that's the last reported location from all sources | 02:30 |
| SpeedEvil | if you start up maps - it will change | 02:30 |
| SpeedEvil | I'd personally like N W next to lat/lon degrees in the setup - as I tend to have to think about it for some reason. I don't know if that's common. | 02:32 |
| Ken-Young | That's exactly the kind of thing I was hoping people would tell me about if I pushed out an early version. | 02:32 |
| Ken-Young | (the location file) | 02:32 |
| Ken-Young | SpeedEvil, tapping near the center in the bottom 1/5th of the screen gets you an azimuth pan compass. | 02:33 |
| SpeedEvil | It's not immediately clear for all but the smallest pans that it is a pan not a zoom | 02:33 |
| SpeedEvil | the zoom buttons might be worth a look too. | 02:34 |
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| Ken-Young | SpeedEvil, The problem I have with zoom buttons is that they make you pan, to center a region, and then zoom. | 02:34 |
| Ken-Young | I like circle-to-zoom, because the center of the circle pans, and the size of the circle (or oval, etc) sets the zoom level. | 02:35 |
| SpeedEvil | True. | 02:35 |
| Ken-Young | So one simple gesture does both pan and zoom. | 02:35 |
| SpeedEvil | There isn't any zoom information though | 02:35 |
| Ken-Young | Yeah, I shouls add a scale, at least as an option. | 02:36 |
| SpeedEvil | Is the magnitude limit supposed to be settable? | 02:37 |
| Ken-Young | SpeedEvil, Yup. | 02:37 |
| SpeedEvil | ah | 02:37 |
| SpeedEvil | too high. | 02:37 |
| SpeedEvil | Forgot no db. | 02:37 |
| Ken-Young | But I'm using a GTK widget that works poorly under hildon. | 02:38 |
| Ken-Young | Only the arrow keys change the value. | 02:38 |
| Ken-Young | I need to find appropriate hildon widgets. | 02:38 |
| SpeedEvil | umm - I can change uising the keyboard - or virtual keyb | 02:39 |
| SpeedEvil | the 'what is displayed' - mag limit | 02:39 |
| SpeedEvil | s | 02:39 |
| Ken-Young | SpeedEvil, Oh, I never got that to work. I'll have to mess with that. | 02:39 |
| SpeedEvil | Also - the LED flashlight - the one on the back can do red light. | 02:39 |
| SpeedEvil | Though I've not investigated how to trigger it. | 02:40 |
| SpeedEvil | It's used as a warning that you're recording video. | 02:40 |
| Ken-Young | SpeedEvil, Yeah, I should drop the cheesy flashlights. | 02:40 |
| Ken-Young | And the solar system animations are very poor. | 02:40 |
| Ken-Young | SpeedEvil, How do you call up the virtual keyboard? | 02:41 |
| SpeedEvil | this months moons - could do with the box the date is in highlighted | 02:41 |
| SpeedEvil | rather than just the date | 02:42 |
| SpeedEvil | settings->input methods ->enable virtual keyb or something | 02:42 |
| Ken-Young | Will do. | 02:42 |
| Ken-Young | (date box, that is) | 02:42 |
| SpeedEvil | maybe flicking left or right over the whole screen should flick between pages? | 02:44 |
| SpeedEvil | eclipses on big moon calendars? That's probably overkill at this stage though. | 02:45 |
| Ken-Young | Maybe that could slew azimuth by one full page. | 02:45 |
| SpeedEvil | or that | 02:45 |
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| Ken-Young | SpeedEvil, I'm working on eclipse right now. Lunar eclipses are easy, but I want solar ones to work with location info, to show you how close you are to the eclipse path center, duration of totality (if any) right where you are, etc. | 02:46 |
| SpeedEvil | the 'key' page - maybe a line '5 magnitudes is 100* brighter" ? | 02:46 |
| Ken-Young | Good idea. It's a confusing unit, to say hte least. | 02:47 |
| SpeedEvil | Looking good anyway! Already handy. | 02:48 |
| SpeedEvil | also - a first run splash screen - maybe a help menu? | 02:48 |
| Ken-Young | SpeedEvil, Thanks for giving it a test drive. | 02:48 |
| SpeedEvil | on the planet view - the same zoom gesture should probably work | 02:49 |
| SpeedEvil | thanks for the effort! | 02:49 |
| SpeedEvil | Time I went to sleep. | 02:49 |
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| xprlbcxdy | Hi all. It seems we are again seeing javascript based flood spam. If you are experiencing this, please do not click the links in the messages as they will cause you to repeat the spam. More information is available at http://peoplesprimary.com. Thanks! | 04:09 |
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| _andy | (how|can) I submit a package for the dev repository? | 04:47 |
| jebba | _andy: search for extras-devel in wiki | 04:48 |
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| _andy | jebba, ty. but it is not apparent from that article how to actually get something into the repository. Do i need to create a project? | 05:11 |
| woglinde | andy? | 05:11 |
| woglinde | andy you need to make a debian package | 05:11 |
| _andy | woglinde, done that :) | 05:11 |
| woglinde | and submit it to the autobuilders | 05:11 |
| woglinde | https://garage.maemo.org/extras-assistant/index.php?step=2 | 05:12 |
| _andy | w00t | 05:15 |
| _andy | ty | 05:15 |
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| _andy | also. would someone please let the tinymail developers that the graphic on their website looks like porn. | 05:23 |
| _andy | s/developers/developers\ know/ | 05:23 |
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| jebba | hahah | 05:32 |
| woglinde | good nite | 05:35 |
| woglinde | seems I finally done | 05:35 |
| woglinde | with navit | 05:35 |
| woglinde | but cannt test yet | 05:35 |
| woglinde | need sleep | 05:35 |
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| waelaase | hello | 10:07 |
| waelaase | i need a help here | 10:07 |
| waelaase | i cannot run any written application or even examples on N900 | 10:08 |
| waelaase | i recompiled them using arm | 10:08 |
| waelaase | then moved them to mydocs | 10:08 |
| waelaase | but when issuing it it gives nothing | 10:08 |
| waelaase | could someone guide me in this | 10:08 |
| waelaase | thank you | 10:08 |
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| jebba | how does one override a "Dependency provided by Scratchbox: cdbs (>= 0.4.39) " I want to use the cdbs from the repo, not the one provided by the scratchbox. It just ignores the cdbs Build-Depends: in debian/control | 12:48 |
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| jebba | woe is me. The scratchbox cdbs try to include non-existant files. | 13:13 |
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| blubbi | mmh, how can I install "X Terminal" in my scratchbox? | 13:45 |
| blubbi | found nothing via Appmanager and apt-cache | 13:45 |
| jeremiah | blubbi: Xterm? | 13:46 |
| jebba1 | osso-xterm | 13:46 |
| lcuk | hey jeremiah \o | 13:47 |
| blubbi | jeremiah: aiii, thats it :-) | 13:47 |
| blubbi | thanks | 13:47 |
| blubbi | mmh, why can't I add htps repos to my scratchbox? | 14:07 |
| blubbi | like: #deb https://downloads.maemo.nokia.com/fremantle/ssu/apps/ / | 14:07 |
| jeremiah | lcuk: ehlo localhost! | 14:08 |
| jeremiah | blubbi: htps? :p | 14:08 |
| jeremiah | blubbi: What is that last slash doing there? | 14:08 |
| jeremiah | Are you sure your sources.list correctly formatted? | 14:09 |
| blubbi | jeremiah: good question :) | 14:09 |
| jeremiah | What error message are you getting. :) | 14:09 |
| blubbi | permission denied | 14:09 |
| jeremiah | ah | 14:09 |
| jeremiah | are you doing apt-get install foo as root? | 14:09 |
| jeremiah | because your ordinary user cannot install software | 14:09 |
| jeremiah | Unless you go through HAM | 14:09 |
| blubbi | okay.. | 14:10 |
| blubbi | so I probably should add them to HAM | 14:10 |
| blubbi | ... right | 14:10 |
| jeremiah | :) | 14:11 |
| jeremiah | Oh wait - you are in scratchbox? | 14:11 |
| jeremiah | On thought you were on the machine | 14:11 |
| blubbi | no scratchbox | 14:11 |
| * jeremiah hates scratching his box | 14:11 | |
| blubbi | *G* | 14:11 |
| jeremiah | blubbi: Consider MADDE, it doesn't require you to do the scratchbox dance :) | 14:12 |
| jeremiah | But, back to your issue right now . . . | 14:12 |
| jeremiah | The permission denied issue is most likely due to your not having the right um, permissions. | 14:12 |
| jeremiah | Are you editing and downloading as root? | 14:13 |
| blubbi | Okay, but when adding repos to the HAM, it always asks me to enter a URL | 14:13 |
| jeremiah | Yeah | 14:13 |
| blubbi | I just "copy and past" whats in my N900 repo | 14:13 |
| blubbi | and there are these repos with https | 14:13 |
| jeremiah | you may have to have the 'key' you received when you first enabled those https repos | 14:14 |
| blubbi | Nokia Applications, OVI and Nokia system software | 14:14 |
| blubbi | well, I can't add those... | 14:14 |
| jeremiah | Is this a new SDK? | 14:14 |
| blubbi | 2 days old | 14:14 |
| jeremiah | Did you go through the Nokia web site to enable the Nokia repos? | 14:15 |
| blubbi | I did | 14:15 |
| blubbi | wait... I just got one | 14:15 |
| blubbi | deb http://repository.maemo.org/ .... nokia-binaries | 14:15 |
| jeremiah | And that is the one that is not working? | 14:15 |
| blubbi | but on the n900 I got deb htps://downloads.maemo.nokia.com/fremantle/ssu/apps/ / | 14:16 |
| jeremiah | (because that has no https) | 14:16 |
| blubbi | deb htps://downloads.maemo.nokia.com/fremantle/ssu/mr0 / | 14:16 |
| blubbi | deb htps://downloads.maemo.nokia.com/fremantle/ovi/ / | 14:16 |
| jeremiah | blubbi: That is not something you need in the SDK | 14:16 |
| jeremiah | I do believe | 14:16 |
| blubbi | and those don't work on the SB | 14:16 |
| blubbi | okay | 14:16 |
| jeremiah | Why are you trying to enable those, I think they are only updates for 'users' not devs | 14:16 |
| jebba1 | blubbi: i have a sample sources.list for the SDK here: http://wiki.maemo.org/User:Jebba/Package_Building_HOWTO#sources.list | 14:16 |
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| blubbi | jebba1: thanks | 14:18 |
| blubbi | okay, mine is similar: http://paste.pocoo.org/show/168750/ | 14:19 |
| blubbi | extras, testing and devel ar in the sources.list.d/ | 14:20 |
| blubbi | added via HAM | 14:20 |
| blubbi | just to have something in there to play around | 14:20 |
| blubbi | bu I'll have a look ade MADDE now (or how it is spelled) | 14:21 |
| woglinde | madde is right | 14:22 |
| jeremiah | MADDE is pretty cool. | 14:24 |
| jeremiah | It has the whole packaging bit built in - so you don't have to switch tools or lose focus | 14:25 |
| jeremiah | It is just one more MADDE call. | 14:26 |
| jeremiah | Plus, a lot of the yucky environment stuff is hidden. | 14:26 |
| jeremiah | So you don't have to fiddle around as much. | 14:26 |
| woglinde | jeremiah which format the png has to be | 14:26 |
| woglinde | so it will be shown in launcher menu | 14:26 |
| jeremiah | base64 | 14:26 |
| woglinde | huh? | 14:26 |
| jeremiah | If you meant the icon in the cotrol file so it shows in HAM? | 14:26 |
| jeremiah | Or do you mean the size of the icon? | 14:27 |
| woglinde | I meant where settings is | 14:27 |
| jeremiah | I'll get the relevant link from the wiki because this icon business has been problematic and buggy | 14:27 |
| woglinde | tab on the left upper sqaueres | 14:27 |
| jeremiah | eh? | 14:28 |
| woglinde | the six squares | 14:28 |
| jeremiah | Yes, what about them? | 14:28 |
| woglinde | left upper corner | 14:28 |
| jeremiah | okay, I'm with you | 14:28 |
| woglinde | when tab there | 14:28 |
| woglinde | and tab more | 14:28 |
| woglinde | in this menu | 14:28 |
| woglinde | I want the app icon | 14:28 |
| woglinde | its only blue | 14:28 |
| jeremiah | Yeah, that is what I was talking about ^^ | 14:28 |
| jeremiah | I'll get the relevant link from the wiki because this icon business has been problematic and buggy | 14:28 |
| jeremiah | http://wiki.maemo.org/Documentation/Maemo_5_Developer_Guide/Packaging,_Deploying_and_Distributing#Icons | 14:30 |
| woglinde | hm ah | 14:31 |
| woglinde | .desktop file | 14:31 |
| woglinde | is not right | 14:31 |
| blubbi | mmh, does anybody know how the python sqlite3 module is called in maemo repo? | 14:32 |
| jeremiah | Are you doing a Qt package? | 14:32 |
| woglinde | no | 14:32 |
| woglinde | navit | 14:32 |
| jeremiah | ah, navit. | 14:32 |
| jeremiah | blubbi: There is a pacakge search which I think you could use to find out | 14:32 |
| jeremiah | blubbi: But I can look too, since I have a better one. ;P | 14:33 |
| blubbi | jeremiah: I did apt-cache search sqlite, but found no python related sqlite | 14:33 |
| jeremiah | ah, you are looking for something like python-libsqlite3? | 14:33 |
| jeremiah | Or similar? | 14:33 |
| blubbi | apt-cache search sqlite | grep python not hing that helps me | 14:33 |
| woglinde | jeremiah a sample .desktop file is missing in this link | 14:34 |
| blubbi | yes | 14:34 |
| jeremiah | woglinde: Which link | 14:34 |
| jeremiah | The one I gave you? | 14:34 |
| blubbi | som other app has apparently pulled it alread in on my n900 but in the scratchbox I am missing sqlite: ImportError: No module named sqlite3 | 14:35 |
| jeremiah | woglinde: do you have gtk-update-icon-cache in your postinst file? | 14:35 |
| jeremiah | blubbi: That is odd. | 14:35 |
| jeremiah | That may be a bug if you can't find it. | 14:36 |
| woglinde | jeremiah not yet | 14:36 |
| jeremiah | I cannot access the SDK repos becuase they have software that my NDA soes not cover. | 14:36 |
| blubbi | args, so how do i find out? | 14:36 |
| blubbi | jeremiah: okay, the bug was me.... had a type in my search | 14:38 |
| blubbi | typo | 14:38 |
| woglinde | *sigh* | 14:40 |
| woglinde | jeremiah explaining the app.link file will be could | 14:40 |
| woglinde | for hand makes optify | 14:40 |
| woglinde | mades | 14:40 |
| jeremiah | blubbi: :) | 14:40 |
| woglinde | saw the ugly postinst link making in nspeed | 14:41 |
| jeremiah | woglinde: Yeah, I agree. | 14:41 |
| woglinde | okay icons have to 48x48 | 14:41 |
| blubbi | did anyone port the texteditor "joe" to maemo? | 14:43 |
| woglinde | blubbi porting the debian package should be easy | 14:43 |
| woglinde | jeremiah last question, when I change the .desktop file do I need to run some update command? | 14:45 |
| blubbi | woglinde: jeah, I did it with mechanize and clientform (you'll probably remember my questions) | 14:45 |
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| blubbi | woglinde: http://maemo.org/packages/view/python-clientform/ http://maemo.org/packages/view/python-mechanize/ | 14:46 |
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| blubbi | by the way, how can I import my gpg to sign a package when I build it in scratchbox? | 14:50 |
| blubbi | gpg: [stdin]: clearsign failed: secret key not available | 14:50 |
| woglinde | one way would be link your host gpg into sratchbox | 14:51 |
| woglinde | other export secret and public key | 14:51 |
| woglinde | and import them into sratchbox | 14:51 |
| Jaffa | Morning, all | 14:52 |
| blubbi | with gpg, and dpkg-buildpackage will then request the key from gpg? | 14:52 |
| Jaffa | blubbi: But, btw, if you're uploadingh g to extras - you don't need to sign | 14:52 |
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| blubbi | Jaffa: I know | 14:52 |
| blubbi | Jaffa: it's just for a local build, just courious | 14:52 |
| woglinde | hm oh | 14:53 |
| woglinde | I always signed | 14:53 |
| blubbi | Jaffa: just on't to test the stuff before uploding... and to wait to see it failing | 14:53 |
| blubbi | wan't | 14:53 |
| blubbi | want | 14:53 |
| jeremiah | Signing is good practice. :) | 14:54 |
| jeremiah | Because if you were to upload your package to somewhere else, you'd have to sign. | 14:54 |
| jeremiah | But, Jaffa's right. | 14:54 |
| woglinde | hms | 14:56 |
| woglinde | jeremiah can I debug when I hit the button from ham the app not starts? | 14:56 |
| woglinde | navit starts fine from commandline | 14:56 |
| blubbi | nice... now signing works | 15:01 |
| lcuk | is it easy to configure dput for uploading automatically | 15:06 |
| woglinde | hm I dont get it | 15:06 |
| lcuk | and afaik that part i still need to sign dont i? | 15:06 |
| woglinde | why navit wont start | 15:06 |
| woglinde | from app launcher | 15:06 |
| lcuk | woglinde, start at all? | 15:06 |
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| woglinde | lcuk as I wrote | 15:07 |
| woglinde | it starts from terminal | 15:07 |
| lcuk | pastebin the .desktop | 15:07 |
| woglinde | lcuk do I have to update something whe I change the .desktop file? | 15:07 |
| V13 | Hello. I want to add some buttons in a window (not a dialog), but I want the buttons to be like those of a dialog (large and finger friendly). Any idea on how I'm supposed to do that ? | 15:08 |
| woglinde | http://pastebin.ca/1762797 | 15:08 |
| V13 | The normal way creates buttons that are very small, without any border inside them. | 15:08 |
| V13 | s/border/space/ | 15:08 |
| lcuk | hmmm woglinde perhaps, though i thought the menu updated when something changed, maybe not? | 15:08 |
| lcuk | woglinde, has it ever worked? | 15:09 |
| woglinde | lcuk what? | 15:09 |
| woglinde | starting navit | 15:09 |
| woglinde | no | 15:09 |
| woglinde | not from launcher | 15:09 |
| woglinde | lcuk any idea how to debug? | 15:10 |
| woglinde | I run dbus-monitor | 15:10 |
| woglinde | and can see the request | 15:10 |
| woglinde | but navit never started | 15:10 |
| blubbi | arrrrg, ENTER does not work in the xterminal in Xterm | 15:11 |
| lcuk | woglinde, look here | 15:11 |
| lcuk | http://github.com/lcuk/liqbase-playground/blob/master/sub_published/sheepdrawing/base_fs/usr/share/applications/hildon/sheepdrawing.desktop | 15:11 |
| blubbi | mmmh, how do I enable the virtual keyboard? Never used it on my N900... | 15:12 |
| lcuk | the path to yours isnt specified and there are inconsistencies in how you specify the osso service | 15:12 |
| blubbi | I activated it in settings | 15:12 |
| lcuk | not sure how it matters | 15:12 |
| woglinde | lcuk I compared with nspeed.destop and service | 15:12 |
| lcuk | but you can try to emulate one that works | 15:13 |
| lcuk | ok | 15:13 |
| lcuk | just try to rule out the things which might fail it | 15:13 |
| woglinde | ah Icon is there now | 15:14 |
| lcuk | step by step | 15:14 |
| woglinde | hm startup works now too | 15:14 |
| lcuk | :D | 15:14 |
| woglinde | lol | 15:14 |
| lcuk | cool stuff | 15:14 |
| woglinde | lcuk that worked http://pastebin.ca/1762805 | 15:15 |
| lcuk | woglinde, great, you are right about not having a debugging method, i think theres documentation somewhere | 15:16 |
| lcuk | but a .desktop validator might be useful tool | 15:17 |
| lcuk | tho once you have yours working you wont have the problem again | 15:17 |
| woglinde | jupp | 15:17 |
| woglinde | hms | 15:18 |
| woglinde | segfault again | 15:18 |
| woglinde | okay | 15:18 |
| woglinde | next task | 15:18 |
| woglinde | gdb | 15:18 |
| blubbi | mmh, when removing my app I get a "dpkg - warning: while removing www2sms, directory `/opt/www2sms' not empty so not removed." becacuse python bytecompiles the .py files and I end up with some .pyo files | 15:18 |
| lcuk | make your console open a terminal with gdb | 15:18 |
| lcuk | make your desktop | 15:19 |
| woglinde | lcuk I meant 7.1 | 15:19 |
| blubbi | how should I handle this? | 15:19 |
| lcuk | doh! | 15:19 |
| woglinde | nut not haralds way | 15:19 |
| lcuk | woglinde, gdb 71 is out already | 15:19 |
| lcuk | i just got 70 working | 15:19 |
| lcuk | i have biult 70 properly | 15:19 |
| lcuk | its pending integration | 15:19 |
| woglinde | lcuk harald's deb is /usr/local which suckz | 15:19 |
| lcuk | yeah i know, hold on, ive got 7.0 build around somewhere | 15:19 |
| lcuk | wheres the maemo bug rpeort ill add the comment there too | 15:20 |
| lcuk | i forgot after christmas | 15:20 |
| woglinde | lol | 15:20 |
| woglinde | navit is nice its calls gdb itself when it is segfaulting | 15:20 |
| woglinde | hm ah remember me to optify the dbg package | 15:21 |
| lcuk | i created a new project on gitorious for alternative optification process | 15:21 |
| lcuk | it just takes a list of folders (like /usr/include or /usr/share/* ) and optifies the whole damned lot | 15:22 |
| woglinde | hm what will I do next | 15:22 |
| lcuk | much simpler and the principle could be added into a preinst for apps that wanted to use same method | 15:22 |
| woglinde | git-buildpackage again qtnx finishing | 15:22 |
| woglinde | or java | 15:22 |
| lcuk | woglinde, are you comfortable with some of the other open source desktop apps | 15:23 |
| lcuk | have a look around the maemo gitorious thing and see if theres outstanding issues you can have a go at | 15:23 |
| lcuk | it will help if you can fix anything there :) | 15:24 |
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| woglinde | lol | 15:25 |
| woglinde | I have enough todo | 15:25 |
| blubbi | arg, why does my .desktop file not execute my python application | 15:26 |
| blubbi | http://paste.pocoo.org/show/168787/ | 15:27 |
| blubbi | Exec=/opt/www2sms/www2sms.py > /home/user/mylog 2>&1 does not yield anything | 15:28 |
| lcuk | woglinde, :) you are an asset to open source | 15:28 |
| woglinde | lcuk lucily my company is focused on opensource | 15:29 |
| woglinde | so I can work with it all time | 15:29 |
| lcuk | nice | 15:29 |
| woglinde | can play with cool gadjets | 15:29 |
| blubbi | launching my app via "python /opt/www2sms/www2sms.py" works | 15:29 |
| lcuk | i can too! | 15:29 |
| lcuk | collabora kicks ass | 15:29 |
| woglinde | sure | 15:29 |
| woglinde | know this from freedesktop.org blog-rool | 15:30 |
| blubbi | or just /opt/www2sms/www2sms.py works to... jsut the .desktopfile will not launch the GUI | 15:30 |
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| lcuk | blubbi, can you launch your app by simply "/opt/www2sms/www2sms.py" | 15:31 |
| blubbi | yes | 15:31 |
| lcuk | if not, you need a shebang and setting the execute flag | 15:31 |
| blubbi | just a second | 15:31 |
| blubbi | aaah, okay, got it | 15:32 |
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| blubbi | everything was in place, was just a false exception checking... | 15:32 |
| lcuk | blubbi, cool, so its working now | 15:33 |
| blubbi | jupp | 15:33 |
| lcuk | nice | 15:33 |
| lcuk | one more app for maemo | 15:33 |
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| blubbi | lcuk: yes, bu I need to integrate it more | 15:33 |
| lcuk | :) dont we all | 15:33 |
| blubbi | open a number from the address book | 15:33 |
| blubbi | and save the send SMS so the contect | 15:34 |
| lcuk | blubbi, look at hermes, it has extensive addressbook manipulation | 15:34 |
| lcuk | written in python | 15:34 |
| blubbi | I already found http://pymaemo.garage.maemo.org/abook.html | 15:34 |
| lcuk | jaffa may also be able to give you some pointers | 15:34 |
| blubbi | so It should not be that hard to make it over vor QT instad of GTK | 15:35 |
| lcuk | well its python | 15:35 |
| blubbi | jupp | 15:35 |
| frals | blubbi: those are old and not used in fremantle | 15:35 |
| woglinde | hms | 15:35 |
| blubbi | frals: okay... | 15:35 |
| lcuk | jaffa, speaking of hermes, i saw something in hamburg airport that reminded me of you | 15:35 |
| frals | if you only need to get numbers from contacts you can check fMMS and contacts.py, i've solved it pretty ugly with evolution but it works | 15:36 |
| frals | or jaffa as lcuk said, its the goodlooking way of integrating with abook ;-) | 15:36 |
| frals | err, s/jaffa/hermes/ | 15:36 |
| lcuk | jaffa http://liqbase.net/liq.hamburg.hermes.jaffa.20100117_011.jpg | 15:40 |
| * woglinde scratches head about optify -dbg packages | 15:40 | |
| lcuk | where does the dbg info get stored | 15:41 |
| woglinde | /usr/lib/debug | 15:43 |
| woglinde | but playtime now | 15:43 |
| woglinde | till later | 15:43 |
| lcuk | woglinde, cool, ill add it to the list of things on the maemo-optify-boottime package | 15:44 |
| lcuk | and include it in the testing phases | 15:45 |
| anidel | hi Gary! | 15:56 |
| lcuk | hiya anidel | 15:57 |
| lcuk | how goes it | 15:57 |
| anidel | everything's fine.. what about you? | 15:57 |
| anidel | back from Finland eh? | 15:57 |
| blubbi | ah one mor thing: how do I get rid of: dpkg - warning: while removing www2sms, directory `/opt/www2sms' not empty so not removed. | 15:58 |
| blubbi | because python generates those .pyo files | 15:58 |
| blubbi | andd they are not included in the install package | 15:58 |
| lcuk | anidel, yeah | 15:59 |
| anidel | cool... | 15:59 |
| lcuk | landed last night, and thankfully this time no ambulances | 15:59 |
| anidel | you know I am leaving the UK for a bunch of months? | 15:59 |
| anidel | ehehe :) | 15:59 |
| anidel | they fixed the doors then | 15:59 |
| lcuk | yeah | 16:00 |
| lcuk | anidel, when are you leaving? | 16:00 |
| lcuk | and why | 16:00 |
| anidel | in a month.. for work reasons (my company sending me to Canada) | 16:01 |
| lcuk | thats cool you looking forward to it? | 16:01 |
| anidel | of course.. it's a nice exp and money | 16:01 |
| anidel | unfortunately I will miss some Maemo events :/ | 16:01 |
| lcuk | we will have to bring them to you then! | 16:02 |
| lcuk | meetup with qole | 16:02 |
| anidel | indeed it's time for a US Maemo event :) | 16:02 |
| anidel | Push N900 just launched an US only competition.. | 16:03 |
| lcuk | i love seeing the photos from all around the world | 16:03 |
| lcuk | taken with n900 | 16:03 |
| lcuk | its worldwide | 16:03 |
| anidel | looks like Nokia's giving a try at the US market again.. slowly | 16:03 |
| anidel | from flickr? | 16:03 |
| anidel | ah you mean from the meetings | 16:03 |
| lcuk | theres a load of places | 16:03 |
| anidel | :) we will | 16:03 |
| anidel | where's qole from actually ? | 16:03 |
| lcuk | i like the "post best n900 photos" thread | 16:03 |
| lcuk | theres people just showing a couple of their personal favorites | 16:04 |
| lcuk | canada | 16:04 |
| anidel | well you do know it takes 7 day to travel from one side to the other in Canada, do you ? :) | 16:04 |
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| anidel | it's like saying Qole lives on Earth :p | 16:04 |
| lcuk | heh some doubt canadians are from this planet :D | 16:05 |
| lcuk | omg it feels so good to be home | 16:05 |
| anidel | makes sense :) | 16:05 |
| anidel | Home in the UK or home in Manchester? | 16:05 |
| lcuk | home home at my chair and stuff | 16:05 |
| anidel | :) nice | 16:06 |
| anidel | I will move to Moncton.. local buses there are provided with WiFi access.. how cool is that? | 16:07 |
| lcuk | heh amazing, its like 3g all over again lol | 16:08 |
| anidel | ehehe | 16:08 |
| lcuk | i got the collaborative adhoc sketching working whilst i was away | 16:08 |
| anidel | collaborative ? looks interesting | 16:09 |
| lcuk | it works on wifi hotspots too, so people in the same bus can all chat | 16:09 |
| lcuk | yeah | 16:09 |
| anidel | it's chat@? | 16:09 |
| lcuk | sketch | 16:09 |
| lcuk | liqflow on multiple computers | 16:09 |
| lcuk | like i said i wanted | 16:09 |
| anidel | I was thinking to add something to Xournal.. I can use your protocol | 16:10 |
| lcuk | it makes many pages | 16:10 |
| lcuk | ive got a graffiti wall that fills up dynamically as people talk | 16:10 |
| anidel | talk ? | 16:11 |
| lcuk | its ubercool and zoomable as normal | 16:11 |
| lcuk | err sketch | 16:11 |
| anidel | eheh | 16:11 |
| lcuk | remember liqsketching is simple postit note type things | 16:11 |
| lcuk | not the advanced stuff | 16:12 |
| lcuk | best part is because of hte way i implemented undo (works like backspace for typing) remote undo works a treat | 16:12 |
| anidel | wonderful stuff... | 16:12 |
| anidel | what do you actually send over-the-air? | 16:12 |
| lcuk | via wifi hotspot, that can be a router or an adhoc | 16:13 |
| lcuk | i was playing in the airport | 16:13 |
| anidel | yeah I meant technically | 16:13 |
| lcuk | and in other places | 16:13 |
| anidel | pixels? strokes? the unit you're sending | 16:13 |
| lcuk | ahh ive got a small protocol sat ontop of opensoundcontrol | 16:13 |
| lcuk | thats the transport layer | 16:13 |
| anidel | makes sense | 16:14 |
| lcuk | the protocol consists of a group of messages | 16:14 |
| lcuk | /hello [user] | 16:14 |
| lcuk | /goodbye [user] | 16:14 |
| lcuk | /sketchnewpage [user],[w],[h] | 16:14 |
| anidel | cool.. I'll give it a look | 16:14 |
| lcuk | /sketchpendown [user],[x],[y],[color] | 16:15 |
| lcuk | you cant yet its | 16:15 |
| lcuk | lol | 16:15 |
| lcuk | opensoundcontrol you can | 16:15 |
| lcuk | i use it in onedotzero | 16:15 |
| lcuk | similar sort of protocol | 16:15 |
| lcuk | but thats to a big machine | 16:15 |
| anidel | it takes care of the peers connected? | 16:15 |
| lcuk | peers arent connected | 16:15 |
| lcuk | its udp | 16:15 |
| anidel | mmm | 16:15 |
| lcuk | connectinoless | 16:15 |
| anidel | yeah | 16:15 |
| anidel | I know.. but still they are "virtually" connected to one.. wall | 16:16 |
| lcuk | the messages are multicast | 16:16 |
| lcuk | no | 16:16 |
| anidel | didn't mean as TCP connection :) | 16:16 |
| lcuk | the username is sent along with the message | 16:16 |
| anidel | I know what you mean.. so it's open to everyone.. can you form groups? | 16:16 |
| lcuk | when i get a stroke message, i look on the grAFFITI WALL FOR AN OPEN SKETCH BY THAT USER | 16:16 |
| anidel | there.. ok | 16:17 |
| lcuk | ahhhh caps fail | 16:17 |
| anidel | eheh | 16:17 |
| lcuk | its everyone on the wifi at the moment | 16:17 |
| lcuk | which is ideal for local | 16:17 |
| lcuk | i will break it into channels tho soon | 16:17 |
| lcuk | i want to allow historical stories to be available | 16:17 |
| anidel | yep.. I wanted to make the Xournal sharing more a 'group' sharing.. and you pick the members of the group among your contacts or people you know | 16:18 |
| lcuk | but i couldnt get the http embedded server running | 16:18 |
| anidel | while yours is more on a wide collaboration tool :) more like art :p | 16:18 |
| lcuk | when you go to an event | 16:18 |
| lcuk | everyone at the event is taking part | 16:18 |
| anidel | yeah.. it's amazing.. love that idea | 16:18 |
| lcuk | anidel, you would be more interested in the irc based versio n | 16:19 |
| lcuk | so you can join a channel with your friends | 16:19 |
| lcuk | from anywhere worldwide | 16:19 |
| anidel | IRC based version of the open sound prot? | 16:19 |
| lcuk | irc is the transport mechanism in that case | 16:20 |
| lcuk | i have sketching over irc too lol | 16:20 |
| lcuk | in a different app | 16:20 |
| anidel | :) | 16:20 |
| anidel | tmo is slow again | 16:23 |
| lcuk | i dunno ive not been on | 16:24 |
| anidel | (111) Connection refused | 16:25 |
| anidel | niec | 16:25 |
| anidel | nice | 16:25 |
| anidel | but I think it's locally | 16:25 |
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| frals | anidel: tmo is timing out for me | 16:33 |
| anidel | ah okay so it's not only me.. and it's Saturday :) | 16:34 |
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| anidel | later | 16:53 |
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| dragly | hi folks. Anyone here with some experience with the gst_photography_set_autofocus function? | 17:05 |
| dragly | It seems like it gets hung up in something when I'm running it now. The thread calling it just hangs and waits for a couple of seconds before the actual focusing starts. | 17:05 |
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| pillar | hey I lost my .install file that copied my .desktop and icon to the right folders when building deb package, can someone show me an example paste or something | 17:37 |
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| pillar | found it | 17:40 |
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| dragly | I figured out that one should call gst_element_set_state (pipeline, GST_STATE_PAUSED); before calling the refocus and gst_element_set_state (pipeline, GST_STATE_PLAYING); afterwards to avoid the problem I mentioned earlier | 17:43 |
| blubbi | okay, my program now works, bu I still have a probelm unsinstalling my program: dpkg - warning: while removing www2sms, directory `/opt/www2sms' not empty so not removed. | 18:06 |
| blubbi | thats because of the .pyo python creates on runtime | 18:06 |
| blubbi | how to convince dpkg to remove the folder despite it is not empty | 18:06 |
| blubbi | or does "apt-get remove" handel that | 18:07 |
| Ken-Young | blubbi, Can you put a command to remove it in the packages postrm file? | 18:10 |
| Ken-Young | s/packages/package's/ | 18:10 |
| blubbi | how would thaht look like | 18:10 |
| Ken-Young | blubbi, That file is just a script, so it can contain rm commands. | 18:11 |
| blubbi | okay | 18:11 |
| blubbi | Ken-Young: you mean : postrm.ex | 18:12 |
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| Ken-Young | blubbi, I think that's just a template. For my pacakge I've put commands in postrm, not postrm.ex, and it definately works. | 18:13 |
| Ken-Young | blubbi, There are requirements for that file, in terms of exit status etc. | 18:13 |
| blubbi | Ken-Young: could you post an example? I am new to this debian stuff | 18:15 |
| Ken-Young | blubbi, I'm *very* new to it too, so you should take anything I say with many grains of salt. | 18:16 |
| blubbi | :-) | 18:16 |
| blubbi | k | 18:16 |
| blubbi | I guess I figured it out | 18:16 |
| Ken-Young | blubbi, postrm will work for you, I'm pretty sure. But it may be considered poor form. There might be a more elegant solution that I'm unaware of. | 18:17 |
| blubbi | but where does the potrm script get called? | 18:19 |
| woglinde | blubbi hm normaly this handeld when you use the proper python support | 18:20 |
| woglinde | inside the rules file | 18:20 |
| Ken-Young | blubbi, If you look in /var/lib/dpkg/info you can see a lot og postrm files. | 18:20 |
| blubbi | woglinde: I just modified the template | 18:20 |
| Ken-Young | s/og/of/ | 18:21 |
| blubbi | woglinde: http://dpaste.com/149441/ | 18:21 |
| woglinde | blubbi is ir pure python or do you use setup.py? | 18:21 |
| blubbi | pure python | 18:21 |
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| woglinde_ | re | 18:23 |
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| woglinde_ | yeah than postrm is right | 18:25 |
| blubbi | okay, in the template there is a "case" menu | 18:25 |
| woglinde_ | whats the problem? | 18:26 |
| blubbi | and i added a "remove) rm -rf /opt/www2sms" | 18:26 |
| woglinde_ | pstebin it | 18:26 |
| blubbi | so I need to know wheere I call the postrm like "postrm remove" | 18:26 |
| blubbi | k | 18:26 |
| blubbi | woglinde_: http://dpaste.com/149444/ | 18:26 |
| Ken-Young | blubbi, postrm is called automatically during the package removal process. | 18:27 |
| blubbi | ah, so it is called with "postrm remove"? | 18:27 |
| woglinde_ | hm do the same for purge | 18:28 |
| woglinde_ | to be clean on thos topic | 18:28 |
| blubbi | okay | 18:28 |
| blubbi | thx | 18:29 |
| woglinde_ | that might not thix the error | 18:29 |
| woglinde_ | args fix | 18:29 |
| blubbi | not? | 18:29 |
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| blubbi | woglinde: okay, did the trick | 18:37 |
| blubbi | done | 18:37 |
| woglinde | blubbi consider so use setup.py | 18:38 |
| woglinde | but needs some time read the docu | 18:38 |
| blubbi | for now it works, will look in setup.py later | 18:39 |
| blubbi | uploading my app now... | 18:39 |
| Ken-Young | blubbi, What's your app? | 18:39 |
| blubbi | www2sms | 18:39 |
| blubbi | https://garage.maemo.org/extras-assistant/index.php?step=1 down? | 18:40 |
| woglinde | till later | 18:41 |
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| jebba1 | blubbi: hanging for me too | 18:47 |
| blubbi | :_) | 18:47 |
| jebba1 | blubbi: report it here: https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=5818 | 18:48 |
| povbot` | Bug 5818: We need servers | 18:48 |
| BluesLee | woglinde: hi, are you the right man to talk about navit on the n900? | 18:49 |
| blubbi | povbot`: ack | 18:52 |
| povbot` | blubbi: Error: "ack" is not a valid command. | 18:53 |
| blubbi | shame on Nokia | 18:53 |
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| lardman | dragly: ping | 18:59 |
| lcuk | BluesLee, he would be | 19:00 |
| lcuk | but he said he was going out | 19:00 |
| lcuk | no doubt he will return later | 19:00 |
| BluesLee | lcuk: thanx | 19:05 |
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| pillar | okay got my deb ready, how do I get it to extras-devel? | 19:19 |
| lardman | dragly: mbarcode-qt doens't seem to build using dpkg-buildpackage, is this known? I've updated the debian/rules file to make it work | 19:20 |
| jebba1 | pillar: the website is down so you cant | 19:22 |
| jebba1 | pillar: but when it works you go to https://garage.maemo.org/extras-assistant/index.php for example | 19:23 |
| pillar | jebba1: ok, was wondering what's going on | 19:24 |
| pillar | jebba1: I hope it doesn't take till monday to get them up again like it did with repositories last weekend.. | 19:26 |
| jebba1 | uh huh. | 19:30 |
| jebba1 | mirror here.... http://espejo.freemoe.org | 19:30 |
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| lcuk | jebba1, are you planning to retain the entire contents of all the repos | 19:39 |
| jebba1 | for now at least. Only the free repos. | 19:41 |
| lardman | how does one get a Qt app to package correctly? | 19:46 |
| lardman | edit the .pro file, or stick everything in the debian/rules ? | 19:46 |
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| blubbi | https://garage.maemo.org/ still down :-( | 20:07 |
| woglinde | yeah | 20:08 |
| woglinde | I am getting little bit frustrating now | 20:08 |
| * blubbi too | 20:09 | |
| blubbi | Shame on Nokia... they could at least provide some server with proper load balancing when the community does the work and developement... | 20:10 |
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| blubbi_ | mpf.. | 20:16 |
| BluesLee | woglinde: do you have navit running on the n900? | 20:19 |
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| blubbi_ | by the way... hat is nyvit? Everybody in here is talking about it... | 20:20 |
| blubbi_ | navit | 20:20 |
| BluesLee | blubbi_: an opensource app which could replace ovi maps app | 20:24 |
| blubbi_ | BluesLee: aiiii, with real TurnByTurn navigation? | 20:25 |
| BluesLee | blubbi_: yes | 20:25 |
| blubbi_ | nice | 20:25 |
| BluesLee | blubbi_: its a matter of time and we will get it | 20:26 |
| blubbi_ | sounds realy promising | 20:27 |
| BluesLee | blubbi_: http://wiki.navit-project.org/index.php/File:Navit-Mineque_art.png | 20:27 |
| woglinde | blubbi they have new server | 20:27 |
| woglinde | but nut so much manpower | 20:27 |
| blubbi_ | woglinde: who? | 20:28 |
| woglinde | only 3 people for server | 20:28 |
| woglinde | or 4 | 20:28 |
| woglinde | nokia sponsors maemo | 20:28 |
| woglinde | maemo hires people | 20:28 |
| blubbi_ | k | 20:28 |
| blubbi_ | navit looks nice | 20:28 |
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| woglinde | blueslee you are aware that I am working since 4 weeks on navit? | 20:29 |
| BluesLee | you are not the only one | 20:29 |
| woglinde | *sigh* | 20:29 |
| BluesLee | that doesnt mean that i am working on it:-) | 20:29 |
| blubbi_ | will it support TCM :-) | 20:30 |
| woglinde | blubbi no | 20:31 |
| blubbi_ | k | 20:31 |
| woglinde | only with converted osm maps and garmin | 20:31 |
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| woglinde | okay till later again | 20:35 |
| blubbi_ | cu | 20:35 |
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| xorAxAx | Jaffa: if you want to have the latest version of dwimd, i can mail it to you | 21:17 |
| xorAxAx | the current one in the repos bricks the device on reboot :] | 21:17 |
| Jaffa | Right, best avoid that one :) | 21:19 |
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| VSav | Hello, I've got a problem with SDK installation. | 21:27 |
| VSav | Cannot install the Nokia binaries because I'm unable to access EULA page | 21:27 |
| VSav | http://tablets-dev.nokia.com/eula/index.php | 21:27 |
| VSav | It gives me error "An error occurred while processing your request." | 21:28 |
| VSav | Is it just me? | 21:28 |
| VSav | Or is it just down right now? | 21:28 |
| jebba1 | VSav: things are down right now | 21:29 |
| VSav | Oh I see | 21:29 |
| VSav | Thank you | 21:29 |
| blubbi_ | does anyone know how I can controll the IR device on the N900 with python? | 21:32 |
| lardman | is probably a standard serial device | 21:38 |
| SpeedEvil | strace irreco | 21:44 |
| blubbi_ | okay, thx | 21:48 |
| lardman | hmm, the qt-maemo channel is rather quiet and unresponsive | 21:48 |
| * lardman battles through .pro files anyway | 21:50 | |
| lardman | where are you dragly, good job on the coding :) | 21:50 |
| lardman | the curious thing about shopping, is that it encourages me to actually get on with mbarcode* as I need it when I look at DVDs and books :) | 21:53 |
| woglinde | lardman madde? | 21:54 |
| lardman | no, sb | 21:54 |
| woglinde | why not madde? | 21:54 |
| lardman | Linux box, already setup with sb | 21:54 |
| woglinde | hm | 21:55 |
| woglinde | your pain | 21:55 |
| woglinde | *g* | 21:55 |
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| lardman | is madde good then? | 21:56 |
| lardman | might have to give it a try eventually | 21:56 |
| lardman | but I don;t really have the time to mess about learning new tools, just need to crack on with coding | 21:56 |
| woglinde | didnt used it myself yet | 21:56 |
| woglinde | but it seems to be a nice integration tool | 21:56 |
| lardman | and with that said, /me goes to watch TV otherwise his wife will kill him for ignoring her | 21:56 |
| woglinde | which lets you quickly make your .deb's | 21:57 |
| lardman | bbl :) | 21:57 |
| woglinde | hihi | 21:57 |
| woglinde | bye lardman | 21:57 |
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| woglinde | enjoy the film | 21:57 |
| woglinde | movie | 21:57 |
| lardman|afk | cu later | 21:57 |
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