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| niekt0 | ok, this is what I was looking for http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=36012 | 00:06 |
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| niekt0 | strage search at wiki.maemo.org | 00:06 |
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| woglinde | hm | 00:09 |
| woglinde | http://maemo.org/api_refs/5.0/5.0-final/mce-dev/dbus-names_8h.html | 00:09 |
| jebba | woglinde: i uploaded a program called "d-feet" which allows you to browse DBUS. quite handy. The interface could use a tweak or a dozen, but it works and helps track down things | 00:10 |
| woglinde | jebba if you remember I helped you with d-feet | 00:11 |
| jebba | haha | 00:11 |
| jebba | ya, not sure if you knew what it actually did or not ;) | 00:11 |
| woglinde | hehe | 00:11 |
| woglinde | sure I looked up because of the strange name | 00:12 |
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| woglinde | jebba hm when you have the api you dont have to sniff it yourself | 00:14 |
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| xorAxAx | jebba: i tried d-feet | 00:35 |
| xorAxAx | jebba: but its not really usable. most of the interface is black | 00:35 |
| xorAxAx | jebba: and clicking the bus names does nothing | 00:35 |
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| jebba | xorAxAx: some of the bus names dont do anything, but that is a bug outside of d-feet (IIRC--regardless, the problem isn't with dfeet itself). Others do list things. I definitely need to tweak ou the interface tho | 00:38 |
| xorAxAx | jebba: yeah, looking forward to it | 00:39 |
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| jebba | dunno that one. the ofono developer pointed me a dfeet | 00:40 |
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| xorAxAx | DocScrutinizer51: what is kdcop? | 00:41 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | kdcop (if I didn't misspell) is a graphic browser for dcop on KDE | 00:42 |
| xorAxAx | dcop isnt dead yet? | 00:42 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | dcop is kde incarnatin of pre-dbus | 00:42 |
| woglinde | qcop? | 00:42 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | dunno | 00:43 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | quite a while since I last looked into it | 00:43 |
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| Ken-Young | Something odd happened to me today. I submitted my first package to Extras-devel, autobuilder built it without errors. I saw the application in the Extras-devel catalog. I was able to download and install the application on my N900. But then, an hour or two later, the application *disappeared* from the Extras-devel catalog. | 01:51 |
| Ken-Young | Is there any way I can find out why it was removed? THere are no entries at all in its bugzilla list. | 01:52 |
| woglinde | ken-young login into assistant again | 01:53 |
| woglinde | search in the fremantle interface | 01:53 |
| woglinde | promote your package | 01:53 |
| Ken-Young | woglinde, I don't even know how to login to assistant. Is there a link to it in the garage area? | 01:54 |
| Ken-Young | I do like the self-promotion idea, though. | 01:54 |
| woglinde | then you need 10 vote ups | 01:55 |
| woglinde | and you can promote it to extras after a week of waiting | 01:55 |
| Ken-Young | woglinde, It's confusing to me. Why would the package appear for a very short time, and then vanish? Is that normal behavior? | 01:56 |
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| woglinde | maybee a bug | 01:57 |
| Ken-Young | It seems unlikely that I'll ever get 10 votes if I'm the only person who ever saw it in the catalog. | 01:57 |
| woglinde | you bitch here | 01:58 |
| woglinde | or in maemo | 01:58 |
| woglinde | or at t.m.o | 01:58 |
| woglinde | or at your blog | 01:59 |
| Ken-Young | What's t.m.o. ? | 01:59 |
| woglinde | talk maemo org | 01:59 |
| Ken-Young | Oh, nevermind, I know. | 01:59 |
| Ken-Young | woglinde, Thanks again for your help. I make a *tiny* bit of progress each day. | 02:00 |
| woglinde | sure | 02:00 |
| woglinde | as I do | 02:00 |
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| jebba | Ken-Young: did you "promote" it? Perhaps check extras-testing too, if you promoted it (which is the definittion of promotion: moving to -testing). Though it should remain in -devel. What is the application? | 02:14 |
| woglinde | jebba hm? | 02:14 |
| jebba | I did see in qaiku they had NFS issues again today, but i have no idea if it's related. | 02:14 |
| woglinde | I already told | 02:14 |
| jebba | woglinde: heh. sry. I went from Andes mountains->Buenos Aires->DC->Denver->Rocky Mountains in like the last 48 hours, i'm a bit spacey ;) | 02:15 |
| woglinde | jebba so you are at home now? | 02:16 |
| Ken-Young | jebba, Actually, I can't even figure out how to promote it. The application is called Orrery, | 02:16 |
| jebba | woglinde: ya | 02:16 |
| Ken-Young | http://maemo.org/packages/view/orrery/ shaws that it built properly. | 02:17 |
| jebba | Ken-Young: look at the armel version of it | 02:17 |
| Ken-Young | s/shaws/shows/ | 02:17 |
| jebba | http://maemo.org/packages/package_instance/view/fremantle_extras-devel_free_armel/orrery/3.0.7-1/ | 02:17 |
| jebba | you should see a promote link there (if you want it in -testing) | 02:17 |
| woglinde | ken-young -> http://maemo.org/packages/package_instance/view/fremantle_extras-devel_free_armel/orrery/3.0.7-1 | 02:17 |
| woglinde | ah | 02:17 |
| woglinde | lol | 02:17 |
| woglinde | now I am to late | 02:17 |
| woglinde | ken-young you should fix ->Warning: This package is not using one of the allowed user/* sections! | 02:18 |
| Ken-Young | jebba, Oh - so it was rejected because I used an invalid section? | 02:18 |
| woglinde | ken-young -> http://wiki.maemo.org/Maemo_packaging | 02:18 |
| jebba | Ken-Young: ask archebyte to review it, he does a great/thorough job of it. | 02:18 |
| jebba | Ken-Young: no, i dont think it gets rejeected automatically like that. But it won't make it to Extras until things like that get fixed | 02:19 |
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| jebba | Ken-Young: i was just able to download/install it ok | 02:19 |
| woglinde | Ken-Young it will be not shown in app-manager | 02:19 |
| jebba | pretty! | 02:19 |
| Ken-Young | Thanks. Are the headings shown in the Application Manager "Desktop", Development" etc the legal values? | 02:19 |
| Ken-Young | jebba, Thanks! | 02:20 |
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| jebba | how do you zoom out? | 02:20 |
| Ken-Young | jebba, Just press the screen for more than 1/3 second. | 02:20 |
| jebba | gotcha | 02:20 |
| jebba | i did it before but i couldnt figure out how i did it ;) | 02:21 |
| jebba | for location it should by default grab your last location (you probabbly know this of course) | 02:21 |
| Ken-Young | jebba, Documentation can be found here: http://wiki.maemo.org/Orrery | 02:22 |
| Ken-Young | It's certainly needs more hildonization. Setting lat/long, time etc can really only be done with the keyboard arrow keys. | 02:22 |
| Ken-Young | I need to change to hildon widgets for the numeric input fields. | 02:23 |
| Ken-Young | It will use GPS soon, too. | 02:23 |
| jebba | cool. Nice one :) | 02:23 |
| Ken-Young | jebba, Thanks again. | 02:24 |
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| DocScrutinizer51 | damn that http://maemo.org/api_refs/5.0/5.0-final/mce-dev/dbus-names_8h.html was a really good finding | 02:34 |
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| DocScrutinizer51 | thanks woglinde :) | 02:35 |
| woglinde | doc? | 02:35 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | 231006 <woglinde> http://maemo.org/api_refs/5.0/5.0-final/mce-dev/dbus-names_8h.html | 02:36 |
| woglinde | doc hm | 02:37 |
| woglinde | okay | 02:37 |
| woglinde | lol | 02:37 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | lol? | 02:37 |
| jebba | Ken-Young: ah definitely "optify" your package as well: | 02:38 |
| jebba | echo auto > debian/optify | 02:38 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | I really do very few actve scanning of the wiki | 02:38 |
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| jebba | that's it. The builder will automatically optfiy it (and you can run `maemo-optify-deb orrery.deb` to optify the ones in your own SDK | 02:38 |
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| Ken-Young | jebba, Well, I manually optified it - you'll see the /usr/bin/orrery is a link to /opt... and /usr/share/orrery is a link to /opt/..., and those are the only significant files. Doesn't that count as optification? | 02:39 |
| jebba | Ken-Young: I have version 3.0.7-1, and no files are in /opt. I suggest just doing the automated way, it's really easy. | 02:41 |
| woglinde | jebba you need to call maemo-optify too | 02:42 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | ~optification | 02:43 |
| Ken-Young | jebba, THat's really odd, because I tested that carefully (I thought), I've installed it several times on my phone, and all significant files get put in /opt, with links in /usr. | 02:43 |
| jebba | woglinde: no, not for the builder. | 02:43 |
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| woglinde | jebba but how than you will test what will be optified? | 02:43 |
| jebba | Ken-Young: ~ $ dpkg -L orrery |grep opt | 02:43 |
| jebba | ~ $ | 02:43 |
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| jebba | woglinde: then run `maemo-optify-deb orrery.deb` for example. | 02:43 |
| woglinde | maemo-optify doesnt scope well with -data packages | 02:43 |
| jebba | woglinde: the only place i've seen maemo-optify barf is in things like plugins (e.g. pidgin-otr in my case) | 02:44 |
| Ken-Young | jebba, The optification is done by my postinst and postrm files. Are you sure it didn't create links when you installed it? | 02:44 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | it's a shame each and every app getting optified makes it harder to radically fix that botch. repartitioning would be needed desparately | 02:44 |
| woglinde | hm I always used it in the rules file | 02:44 |
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| jebba | Ken-Young: ah yes. I do see it that way. Definitely should *not* be done that way thoguh. | 02:46 |
| jebba | woglinde: yes, i did at first too. | 02:46 |
| Ken-Young | jebba, OK, I'll switch. I don't want to cause confusion. | 02:46 |
| jebba | DocScrutinizer51: it's not goign to be fixed for maemo 5, but almost certianly fixed for maemo6 | 02:46 |
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| Ken-Young | jebba, I can't get automatic optification to work for me. I created a file debian/optify containing only the word "auto" and then rebuilt the .deb package. But when I install it, nothing is put in /opt, it all stays under /usr . Any idea what I'm doing wrong? | 03:15 |
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| woglinde | ken-young as jebba said | 03:18 |
| woglinde | apt-get install maemo-optify | 03:19 |
| woglinde | run maemo-optify-deb on the .deb | 03:19 |
| Ken-Young | woglinde, OK, I missed that. Thank you. | 03:19 |
| woglinde | or put maemo-optify under dh_gencontrol | 03:20 |
| woglinde | in rules file | 03:20 |
| woglinde | if you are using cdbs | 03:20 |
| Ken-Young | woglinde, How do I make the autobuilder do that? | 03:20 |
| woglinde | make binary-install/packagname:: | 03:20 |
| woglinde | maemo-optify | 03:20 |
| woglinde | as jebba said | 03:21 |
| woglinde | autobuilder looks at debian/optify | 03:21 |
| woglinde | and does it automagicly | 03:21 |
| woglinde | didnt know this before | 03:21 |
| Ken-Young | woglinde, So autobuilder requires *nothing* except the debian/optify file containing "auto" ? | 03:21 |
| woglinde | when jebba tested it I believe him | 03:22 |
| Ken-Young | woglinde, For me, apt-get install maemo-optify returns "E: Couldn;t find package maemo-optify". I'm supposed to run this in scratchbox, right? | 03:24 |
| woglinde | right | 03:24 |
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| Ken-Young | Thanks woglinde, that works, at least locally. apt-get never found optify, but I founf the .deb with my browser. | 03:40 |
| Ken-Young | s/founf/found/ | 03:40 |
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| jebba | to confirm: the maemo builder box will automatically run maemo-optify-deb on the completed debs if there is "auto" in debian/optify. In the future, this will be on by *default* even without a debian/optify file and you'll have to turn it *off* with `echo none > debian/optify` Ken-Young woglinde | 05:43 |
| jebba | Ken-Young: may be sdk or tools repo (maemo-optify package) | 05:44 |
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| Ken-Young | Thanks for all the tips, jebba. You and woglinde have saved me from many hours of frustration. | 06:00 |
| jebba | that's what we're here for! :) | 06:03 |
| thomaz | anybody here using gentoo for development? | 06:13 |
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| jebba | not me | 06:37 |
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| DocScrutinizer51 | jebba: you might be interested in my latest findings on LED_patterns | 07:25 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | actually the whole wiki on 'low level' is quite missleading | 07:27 |
| jebba | ¿donde? | 07:30 |
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| DocScrutinizer51 | actually the whole wiki on 'low level' is quite missleading | 07:34 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | as presumed by me there seem to be actually 3 LP5521, one for indicator 3color LED, another 2 for the 6 kbd LEDs. | 07:34 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | each of those has 3 engines. | 07:34 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | those 9 engines are represented by the 9 digits of engineX_leds sysfs node. | 07:34 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | I don't get a clear picture yet on how the "X" above (1..3) for engine actually interacts with the whole shit | 07:35 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | one thing is pretty clear: the LED pattern driver for the LP5521 is totally FUBAR | 07:35 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | (sorry if some double posts - got a disconnect) | 07:35 |
| jebba | where in /sys is this? | 07:36 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | err? | 07:36 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | Nokia-N900-51-1:/sys/class/i2c-adapter/i2c-2/2-0032# | 07:37 |
| jebba | engine1_mode etc just say enabled/disabled | 07:38 |
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| jebba | I only see up to engine3_mode as well | 07:38 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | yep. so what? | 07:39 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | it's braindead | 07:39 |
| jebba | ah | 07:39 |
| jebba | Cool, control blue LED thusly: | 07:40 |
| jebba | /sys/class/leds/lp5523:b # echo 100 > brightness | 07:40 |
| jebba | /sys/class/leds/lp5523:b # echo 0 > brightness | 07:40 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | you can load *all 9* engines with one action by simply writing "111111111" to either of engine(123)_leds | 07:40 |
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| DocScrutinizer51 | yup 255 maximum for brightness | 07:41 |
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| DocScrutinizer51 | if you try to do any of that from N900 kbd start with "sleep 1; any_other_foo" as keypress resets all LED shit | 07:42 |
| jebba | heh. cute. | 07:42 |
| jebba | green: | 07:43 |
| jebba | while true ; do echo 0 > brightness ; sleep 1 ;echo 255 > brightness ; sleep 1 ; done | 07:43 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | sleep 1; echo load >engine3_mode; sleep 1; ls; cat engine3_leds; echo 111111111 >engine3leds; echo 9d80401042ff02ff0000 >engine3_load; sleep 1; echo run >engine3_mode | 07:44 |
| jebba | FOOOOOO: /sys/class/leds/lp5523:r # echo 0 > brightness | 07:44 |
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| jebba | ah, OK: | 07:45 |
| jebba | /sys/class/leds/lp5523:r # while true ; do echo 0 > brightness ; sleep 1 ;echo 255 > brightness ; sleep 1 ; done | 07:45 |
| jebba | But you need to turn off other colors before you start a new one | 07:45 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | fuck' busybox long line bug. s/engine3leds/engine3_leds | 07:45 |
| jebba | oh wait, you can set it to solid red, for example, then have green flash over it ;) | 07:45 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | you can do all this by programming the LP5521 | 07:46 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | you just need to fight maemo driver madness | 07:47 |
| jebba | /sys/class/leds # echo 255 > lp5523\:r/brightness ; while true ; do echo 255 > lp5523\:g/brightness ; sleep 1 ; echo 0 > lp5523\:g/brightness ; sleep 1 ; done | 07:47 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | never seen a driver so seriously brainfucked before in my life | 07:47 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | figure: you can control any of the 9 LEDs via any of the 3 engines. so what is that engine1..3 foo for at all :-O | 07:51 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | and *for sure* any LED is associated *by copper and soldering* to exactly ONE (hardware-)engine | 07:54 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | no multiplexing of LEDs in hardware | 07:55 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | next thing to do would be: | 07:55 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | echo 000001000 >engine1_leds | 07:56 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | ''load pattern A to engine1_load'' | 07:56 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | echo 000010000 >engine1_leds | 07:57 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | ''load pattern B to engine1_load'' | 07:57 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | echo 000100000 >engine1_leds | 07:57 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | ''load pattern C to engine1_load'' | 07:57 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | echo 000111000 >engine1_leds | 07:58 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | echo run >engine1_mode | 07:58 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | .....alas | 07:58 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | I'm too tired now | 07:58 |
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| jebba | #!/bin/sh | 08:00 |
| jebba | # freemoe-led [r|g|b] [0-255] | 08:00 |
| jebba | sudo echo -n $2 | sudo tee /sys/class/leds/lp5523\:$1/brightness | 08:00 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | dunno if the friggin drive maybe resets the hw-engines marked '0' in that 9digit pattern | 08:00 |
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| jebba | ~ $ cat bin/freemoe-led-cyan-on | 08:09 |
| jebba | #!/bin/sh | 08:09 |
| jebba | sudo /home/user/bin/freemoe-led b 255 | 08:09 |
| jebba | sudo /home/user/bin/freemoe-led r 255 | 08:09 |
| jebba | sudo /home/user/bin/freemoe-led g 255 | 08:09 |
| jebba | purple, etc. | 08:09 |
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| DocScrutinizer51 | yo have a purple 'breathing light' by now | 08:11 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | nice | 08:11 |
| jebba | purple/cyan cycling breathing light ;) | 08:11 |
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| DocScrutinizer | jebba: next day. Now for a nap. Just created account (finally \o/ ) and edited http://wiki.maemo.org/LED_patterns#Low_Level rather preliminary. Tomorrow to the details and some real world examples how to *really* exploit the powers of that hw | 08:24 |
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| DocScrutinizer | really like to know which evil nasty stuff the guy had too much of, which created the specs for Mathias Nyman the other day XP ( http://mxr.maemo.org/fremantle/source/kernel/drivers/i2c/chips/lp5521.c ) | 08:28 |
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| DocScrutinizer | http://mxr.maemo.org/fremantle/source/kernel/drivers/leds/leds-lp5523.c hhhmmmmmmpfff | 09:23 |
| DocScrutinizer | so scratch all my previous rant | 09:25 |
| DocScrutinizer | and replace that with "Thanks NOKIA for the *excellent* hw-documentation! >:-(" | 09:26 |
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| Jaffa | Morning, all | 09:39 |
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| _Lucretia_ | to build a cross compiler from source for arm, I assume I need to be in FREMANTLE_ARM? | 12:46 |
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| blub_ | hi all, I have written a small python app and i am currently trying to pack it. Where should I place it? /opt/www2sms/ | 13:16 |
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| woglinde | _Lucretia_ why you want to build the cross compiler yourself? | 13:17 |
| _Lucretia_ | because i do | 13:18 |
| _Lucretia_ | to add in another language, or well, try it | 13:18 |
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| _Lucretia_ | it shouldn't matter why someone wants to do something | 13:26 |
| woglinde | _Lucretia_ the cs-toolchain is not enough? | 13:30 |
| _Lucretia_ | read what I said ^^^^ | 13:37 |
| _Lucretia_ | 2nd line | 13:37 |
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| _Lucretia_ | woglinde: -->> <_Lucretia_> to add in another language, or well, try it | 13:41 |
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| woglinde | *g* make the pain yourself | 13:41 |
| _Lucretia_ | eh? | 13:43 |
| _Lucretia_ | *g* ? | 13:43 |
| woglinde | _Lucretia_ I am crosscompiling busines since 10 years now | 13:44 |
| _Lucretia_ | I've also messed around with cross compiling for a while also | 13:44 |
| _Lucretia_ | but not scratchbox | 13:44 |
| _Lucretia_ | so, again | 13:44 |
| woglinde | scratchbox is very special | 13:44 |
| _Lucretia_ | all I want to do is to get a different language building | 13:44 |
| woglinde | obj-c? fortran? | 13:45 |
| _Lucretia_ | ada | 13:45 |
| woglinde | *g* | 13:46 |
| _Lucretia_ | so? | 13:47 |
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| DocScrutinizer | ADA \o/ :-D | 14:05 |
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| _Lucretia_ | DocScrutinizer: Ada | 14:13 |
| flux | I've been considering compiling Objective Caml. but I'm not sure if I'd want to use effort on adding hildon-support for its gtk bindings.. | 14:14 |
| flux | atleast unison would then work on n900 | 14:14 |
| DocScrutinizer | yo, lady ada lovelace, daughter of Nicky Wirth | 14:15 |
| DocScrutinizer | sister of Pascal and the beauty Modula Wirth | 14:16 |
| DocScrutinizer | Great empress of all the stars of outer space | 14:17 |
| woglinde | *g* | 14:18 |
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| ruskie | flux, mmm unison would be nice | 14:27 |
| ruskie | even without a GUI | 14:27 |
| DocScrutinizer | Tell me my love, will you SPARK? | 14:33 |
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| DocScrutinizer | actually a decent Ada-2005 implementation would be rather cool. I want a *native* compiler for ARM-8 | 14:43 |
| DocScrutinizer | especially since we got GPS on N900 alrady ;-P | 14:44 |
| flux | hmm, looks like gnat might be part of the GCC, so I suppose it might have that? | 14:51 |
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| ruskie | but is gnu ada 2005 compliant? | 14:53 |
| _Lucretia_ | ruskie: getting there | 14:54 |
| _Lucretia_ | and still no info on how to compile the compilers within scratchbox then | 14:54 |
| _Lucretia_ | flux: gnat is a gcc front end | 14:55 |
| ruskie | _Lucretia_, I would assume building a compiler the normal way would work | 14:56 |
| ruskie | from my impressions it seems like scratchbox is actually running things through qemu-arm | 14:56 |
| ruskie | so it shouldn't need cross compiling | 14:56 |
| _Lucretia_ | do I need to x86 mode? I would think so, right? | 14:56 |
| ruskie | I never went to x86 so far | 14:57 |
| ruskie | always was only in FREMANTLE_ARMEL | 14:57 |
| _Lucretia_ | I've done the hello world tutorial so far | 14:58 |
| ruskie | I've build xmms2, zsh, rsyslog, modest, fcron, djmount on it | 14:59 |
| ruskie | all using the _ARMEL one | 14:59 |
| _Lucretia_ | have you run them within the sdk? | 15:02 |
| ruskie | no | 15:02 |
| ruskie | I don't use the sdk to run | 15:02 |
| ruskie | I have a n900 for that | 15:02 |
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| _Lucretia_ | but have you run anything in the sdk? | 15:03 |
| * _Lucretia_ hasn't got his n900 yet, it's on it's way :D | 15:03 | |
| ruskie | you mean any other software than the sdk stuff? | 15:03 |
| _Lucretia_ | anything | 15:03 |
| _Lucretia_ | how is the emulation? | 15:03 |
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| ruskie | you still didn't clarify it... I used it to build things... that's about the scope of the thing | 15:04 |
| _Lucretia_ | ok, I want to know if the sdk can run arm apps? | 15:05 |
| ruskie | it should... | 15:06 |
| ruskie | runs qemu-arm | 15:06 |
| lupine_85 | it comes with an emulator that can, IIRC | 15:06 |
| lupine_85 | (armel, not arm) | 15:06 |
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| _Lucretia_ | aye | 15:09 |
| _Lucretia_ | I know it's le | 15:09 |
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| * DocScrutinizer curses Nokia and NationalSemicontractor - no decent datasheet for LP5523 >:-(( | 15:11 | |
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| blub_ | okay, I don't get it... where should I place my files when my program depends on pymaemo-optify. Here's my rules file: http://paste.pocoo.org/show/168349/ and here's my control file: http://paste.pocoo.org/show/168352/ | 15:18 |
| blub_ | just throwing them into debian/www2sms/ does not work... they end up in / | 15:18 |
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| flux | debian/opt/www2sms? | 15:19 |
| ruskie | blub_, run maemo-pyoptify or what's that | 15:20 |
| ruskie | and it will do it for you | 15:20 |
| flux | blub_, pick some other python-based program like accdisplay and look at its packaging? | 15:20 |
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| blub_ | flux: I checked pygtkeditor | 15:22 |
| blub_ | and you are right, they just thro it in /opt/pygtkeditor | 15:22 |
| _Lucretia_ | I've just gone into FREMANTLE_ARMEL, but can't get back to X86: sb-conf: You must close your other Scratchbox sessions first | 15:23 |
| flux | _lucretia_, well, close all your sessions and try agani? | 15:23 |
| _Lucretia_ | I only have one | 15:23 |
| _Lucretia_ | nope | 15:24 |
| _Lucretia_ | i exit the scratchbox, login again (it's still in armel), won't go back | 15:24 |
| _Lucretia_ | did it in the sb-menu app, killed everything | 15:25 |
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| _Lucretia_ | great, the configure script for binutils segfaults | 15:38 |
| _Lucretia_ | ah, gcc one works | 15:39 |
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| DocScrutinizer | Well let's see if National is willing to hand out confidential material to a senior EE of a small mobile equipment manufacturer | 15:44 |
| hrw | probably autobuilder maintainers started to downgrade it and rebuild everything | 15:45 |
| hrw | ops | 15:45 |
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| woglinde | jo fiferboy | 15:49 |
| woglinde | hi hrw | 15:49 |
| woglinde | hrw only downgrade to pr1.0 | 15:49 |
| fiferboy | hi woglinde | 15:50 |
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| sluo | is the extras promotion interface for Diablo supposed to be working right now? | 16:12 |
| sluo | https://garage.maemo.org/promoter/diablo gives me a 404 | 16:13 |
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| blub_ | hi, can anyone tell me wwhere I should place the icon for my app? | 16:18 |
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| blubbi | aahh I mean .desktop file? | 16:19 |
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| _Lucretia_ | I have no idea!! configure: error: cannot compute suffix of object files: cannot compile | 17:01 |
| timoph | blubbi: /usr/share/applications/hildon/ | 17:02 |
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| blubbi | hi all. what do i have to put in my .desktop file that i can execut my executable /opt/www2sms/www2sms.py | 20:21 |
| blubbi | just adding Exec= does not work | 20:21 |
| blubbi | it starts but terminates after a few seconds | 20:21 |
| ruskie | that's the point usually | 20:22 |
| blubbi | ? | 20:22 |
| ruskie | if you want to have it running in the background you'll need to add some code to daemonize it | 20:22 |
| blubbi | a gui should pop up | 20:23 |
| ruskie | Exec=/opt/www2sms/www2sms.py | 20:23 |
| ruskie | and do you have a she-bang line in that py? | 20:23 |
| ruskie | #!/usr/bin/python or whatever | 20:23 |
| blubbi | yes | 20:23 |
| ruskie | and is the file executable? | 20:23 |
| blubbi | yes | 20:23 |
| DocScrutinizer | run-standalone.sh ? | 20:23 |
| ruskie | tried launching it from a terminal? | 20:23 |
| blubbi | works | 20:24 |
| blubbi | python /opt..... | 20:24 |
| ruskie | then try: Exec=python /opt/www2sms/www2sms.py | 20:24 |
| ruskie | if you haven't | 20:24 |
| blubbi | k | 20:24 |
| blubbi | have to leave now | 20:24 |
| blubbi | back in an hour | 20:25 |
| blubbi | thx | 20:25 |
| DocScrutinizer | or run-standalone.sh python /opt/www2sms/www2sms.py | 20:25 |
| ruskie | DocScrutinizer, then it wouldn't work in plain terminal as well | 20:25 |
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| ruskie | I think | 20:25 |
| DocScrutinizer | in user shell it does | 20:25 |
| DocScrutinizer | not in root though aiui | 20:25 |
| DocScrutinizer | some issue with settingup env | 20:26 |
| DocScrutinizer | no idea about exec= line startup | 20:27 |
| DocScrutinizer | EXEC= /opt/www2sms/www2sms.py >mylogfile 2>&1 ? | 20:28 |
| DocScrutinizer | ruskie: was that you who told he might create mandb package eventually? | 20:34 |
| ruskie | hmm | 20:37 |
| ruskie | not sure | 20:37 |
| ruskie | probably not | 20:37 |
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| hrw|gone | how to build package which require python in sbox? to get python 2.5 instead of that obsoleted 2.3 ver? | 20:49 |
| ruskie | there is some pyver | 20:56 |
| ruskie | but I had to modify sources to point to python2.5 as well | 20:57 |
| hrw|gone | fucking crap | 20:57 |
| hrw|gone | sorry, but I cannot use other words for that | 20:58 |
| ruskie | and ignore .pyo and .pyc stuff | 20:58 |
| hrw|gone | dpkg is overriden, python is overriden... | 20:58 |
| ruskie | since they are unknown changes to the code | 20:58 |
| wirelessdreamer | broken python seems like a major bug =| | 20:59 |
| hrw|gone | nokia should PAY someone to update sbox to usable state | 20:59 |
| hrw|gone | lenny atleast | 21:00 |
| ruskie | hopefully Mer will improve that | 21:00 |
| hrw|gone | ruskie: Mer is not Maemo | 21:00 |
| hrw|gone | ok? | 21:00 |
| hrw|gone | and Mer is based on sane rootfs base | 21:00 |
| hrw|gone | compared to maemo | 21:00 |
| * hrw|gone -> off | 21:01 | |
| ruskie | I'm aware it's not maemo | 21:02 |
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| ruskie | it's maemo reloaded | 21:08 |
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| hrw | I would rather say: it is maemoized ubuntu | 22:13 |
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| user_ | hi | 23:52 |
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| user_ | ? | 23:53 |
| [Tycho] | Hello. | 23:53 |
| user_ | where is everybody | 23:53 |
| [Tycho] | Missed in action. Possibly on lunch. | 23:54 |
| user_ | man need to come natural with irc on n900 | 23:54 |
| user_ | hi tycho | 23:55 |
| user_ | my name is dsmileface | 23:55 |
| user_ | just got my n900 a few days and its great | 23:56 |
| [Tycho] | I don't have a n900 | 23:56 |
| user_ | but youre an dev right | 23:56 |
| [Tycho] | No, i have only n770. | 23:56 |
| user_ | just came by the wiki of maemo havent used a nseries for couple of years so yeah im a newbie | 23:57 |
| user_ | samsung was it the last few years | 23:58 |
| [Tycho] | The only possibly working SDK is for n900, so i can't be a dev :) | 23:58 |
| user_ | but got sucked by the great new reff. off n900 | 23:58 |
| user_ | lol | 23:59 |
| user_ | hmm have to update hope brb | 23:59 |
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