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| jebba | hey | 00:50 |
| h5v16no0 | I've got GTKmozembed problems! | 00:51 |
| h5v16no0 | and i need some brains! | 00:52 |
| h5v16no0 | Pretty new to the maemo stuff but managed to get my enviroment up and running and have created a basic desktop widget | 00:53 |
| h5v16no0 | which works | 00:53 |
| h5v16no0 | ideally i want to include some html in my widget... but i can't work out how to include or link against gtkmozembed | 00:55 |
| h5v16no0 | is GTKMozembed the right thing to use?! | 00:56 |
| h5v16no0 | There's not mention of it in the pkg-config | 00:57 |
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| MKChris | hi I've just started developing with n900. I'm trying to find a way of monitoring "platform_cam_shutter button.state.value" from python, could someone point me in the right direction for documentation please | 01:23 |
| SpeedEvil | I don't know. Have you looked at camkeyd? I don't know if that's implemeted in python | 01:25 |
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| MKChris | hi, platform_cam_shutter is the lens cover, platform_cam_focus is the camera button, according to lshal which is what camkeyd is using, but thanks for the suggetion | 01:38 |
| SpeedEvil | What're you trying to do? | 01:39 |
| SpeedEvil | I'd love camera-key + zoom = alt-tab application shift | 01:39 |
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| MKChris | i'm trying to check if the shutter is open when locking the phone, ive had a look at camkeyd C source code they do monitor it, trying to work if i can do it from python. | 02:03 |
| SpeedEvil | It also pops up in dmesg | 02:04 |
| SpeedEvil | shutter is foo | 02:04 |
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| lardman|home | dragly: ping | 02:24 |
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| ifreq | o | 02:42 |
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| MKChris | Hi anyone help with this "dbus.exceptions.DBusException: org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown: The name org.freedesktop.Hal was not provided by any .service" im trying to get a python script working | 03:59 |
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| goodwill | according to apt-get update fremantle extras and tools repos have an incorrect gpg signature | 07:49 |
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| goodwill | anyone knows anything about that? | 07:50 |
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| Hukka | Grah, I do need the GEOS as well :/ | 09:59 |
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| Hukka | Oh you gotta be kidding me... "Source file is a bz2 but bzip2 or gzip not available at /scratchbox/devkits/debian-etch/bin/dh_make line 427, <STDIN> line 2." | 10:03 |
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| flux | well, is it available?-) | 10:20 |
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| Hukka | It's in the sdk, but not in the devkit | 10:24 |
| Hukka | The point is why on earth it's not in the devkit | 10:24 |
| Hukka | bz2 is quite basic... | 10:24 |
| flux | well, just apt-get install it, no? | 10:29 |
| Hukka | That doesn't put in in the devkit | 10:29 |
| Hukka | See for example: http://maemo.org/community/maemo-developers/re-debhelper_7-001/?org_openpsa_qbpager_net_nemein_discussion_posts_page=1#e90d4044004e11df9178d7f65f1d68ae68ae | 10:30 |
| Hukka | Same problem | 10:30 |
| Hukka | "The nature of devkits is that they shadow whatever is in the target. | 10:30 |
| Hukka | Thus, installing debhelper 7 in the target doesn't do anything: you will | 10:30 |
| Hukka | still get the debhelper from the devkit. | 10:30 |
| Hukka | You would either have to update the devkit itself, or somehow disable it | 10:30 |
| Hukka | while building your package only." | 10:30 |
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| Hukka | Well, victory anyway. Now I have geos on my N900 too | 10:43 |
| Ken-Young | A few hours ago, I uploaded my first package to Extras-devel. Is there any way that I can tell if autobuilder built my package successfully, and if not, to hind out why the autobuild failed? | 10:43 |
| ruskie | Ken-Young, I believe the reis a mailing list about it | 10:44 |
| Ken-Young | ruskie, Do you mean maemo-developers-request@maemo.org ? | 10:46 |
| ruskie | maemo.extras-cauldron.builds <-- I'm guessing this one maybe | 10:47 |
| ruskie | what was the pkg btw? | 10:47 |
| ruskie | orrery 3.0.5-1 FAILED | 10:47 |
| ruskie | ahh that one | 10:47 |
| Ken-Young | ruskie, Oh, where did you see that? | 10:48 |
| ruskie | maemo.extras-cauldron.builds | 10:48 |
| ifreq | mayb stupid question, but what prevents developer not to upload backdoored apps? | 10:48 |
| ruskie | that ML | 10:48 |
| ruskie | it's probably using - instead of . | 10:48 |
| ruskie | ifreq, absolutely nothing | 10:48 |
| Ken-Young | ruskie, Thanks! | 10:49 |
| ifreq | ruskie, ah okay | 10:49 |
| ruskie | there is no true QA anywhere | 10:50 |
| ruskie | atleast from what I know | 10:50 |
| ifreq | y | 10:50 |
| ruskie | the vote for testing -> extras would require people to actually follow guidelines | 10:51 |
| thomaz | anybody developing on gentoo? | 10:59 |
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| zph | hi all :) | 12:11 |
| zph | while apt-get update i get: | 12:11 |
| zph | W: GPG error: http://repository.maemo.org fremantle/tools Release: Couldn't access keyring: 'No such file or directory' | 12:11 |
| zph | is this critical? | 12:12 |
| Hukka | /scratchbox/compilers/cs2007q3-glibc2.5-arm7/bin/sbox-arm-none-linux-gnueabi-as: unrecognized option `-Qy' | 12:27 |
| Hukka | Google says that's a problem with assembler, but any hints on how to solve it? | 12:27 |
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| Hukka | Seems like it's a problem with old PYthon | 13:09 |
| Hukka | Which leads me to: | 13:09 |
| Hukka | ls -l /host_usr/bin/ | 13:09 |
| Hukka | total 0 | 13:09 |
| Hukka | lrwxrwxrwx 1 hukka hukka 18 Jan 20 13:07 python -> /usr/bin/python2.5 | 13:09 |
| Hukka | [sbox-FREMANTLE_ARMEL: ~] > which python | 13:09 |
| Hukka | /host_usr/bin/python | 13:09 |
| Hukka | [sbox-FREMANTLE_ARMEL: ~] > python | 13:10 |
| Hukka | Python 2.3.4 (#1, Aug 24 2009, 16:32:34) | 13:10 |
| Hukka | Where does it get that old version? | 13:10 |
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| Jaffa | Hukka: Scratchbox has its own Python version; you can either set an environment variable or use python2.5 | 13:14 |
| Hukka | Jaffa: The point is that I've got a symlink to the newer version, which is recognized by `which` | 13:15 |
| Hukka | But still if I try to run `python` I get the old version | 13:15 |
| Hukka | So where does the shell get the binaries, if it doesn't honor PATH? | 13:15 |
| Jaffa | Hukka: Scratchbox indirection | 13:18 |
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| hrw | ~curse maemo kernel team | 13:38 |
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| hrw | someone know which exactly 2.6.28.X they follow? | 13:43 |
| ruskie | jebba might be aware of it | 13:43 |
| hrw | I think that he follows maemo5 kernel only | 13:46 |
| hrw | I love quilt | 13:49 |
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| hrw | got to 2.6.28.10 | 13:59 |
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| blubbi | hi all, whats the fastest way to geht the python-mechanize module into Maemo? | 19:00 |
| blubbi | there is a Debian package for it, is is possible to "unpack" optify it and "repack" it? | 19:01 |
| blubbi | or whats the suggested way? | 19:01 |
| blubbi | http://packages.debian.org/squeeze/python-mechanize | 19:02 |
| flux | blubbi, hmm, I don't think it's necessary to 'optify' with the current python-optify-mechanism.. ? | 19:09 |
| flux | (disclaimer: I don't use python) | 19:09 |
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| lupine_85 | haha, I'm getting source code for my ADSL2+ SBC | 19:10 |
| blubbi | flux: well, its just on e folder... | 19:10 |
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| blubbi | flux: so you suggest to just instal the debain package? | 19:11 |
| flux | blubbi, is it under some directory 'df' says is mounted from /opt/pymaemo? | 19:11 |
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| flux | blubbi, no, not really, I don't know if its dependencies are correct | 19:11 |
| blubbi | k | 19:11 |
| flux | blubbi, but I suppose there's not much to lose by trying | 19:11 |
| flux | (atleast if the module contains no natively compiled code) | 19:12 |
| blubbi | I'll give it a shot. If /usr/lib64/python2.6/site-packages/ is on /opt (linked or hoever) then it should work out of the box | 19:12 |
| blubbi | *compiling scratchbox* | 19:13 |
| flux | hmm | 19:13 |
| blubbi | flux: http://packages.debian.org/squeeze/python-mechanize | 19:13 |
| flux | 64 suggests 64-bit support? | 19:13 |
| flux | blubbi, there is no /usr/lib64 on maemo | 19:13 |
| flux | also the name sounds like there is something native (guessing) | 19:14 |
| blubbi | flux: nativ? | 19:14 |
| blubbi | nativ what? | 19:14 |
| flux | compiled for x86_64 | 19:14 |
| flux | but no, I must be mistaken | 19:14 |
| blubbi | well, yes, it was just a test to see where it would install on my system | 19:14 |
| flux | the package is for all archs | 19:14 |
| blubbi | ack | 19:14 |
| blubbi | it's python | 19:15 |
| blubbi | mechanize is completely written in python | 19:15 |
| blubbi | ah nice scratchbox finished | 19:15 |
| flux | hmm, the package contents at http://packages.debian.org/squeeze/all/python-mechanize/filelist doesn't mention any lib64 | 19:15 |
| blubbi | flux: I told you, that was the path it would install on my GENTOO system | 19:16 |
| blubbi | in the "site-packages" path go all the python modules | 19:16 |
| flux | you didn't mention GENTOO :) | 19:16 |
| blubbi | flux: didn't I ;-) Sry | 19:16 |
| blubbi | *G* | 19:16 |
| flux | btw, you need python-clientform as well | 19:17 |
| blubbi | flux: I guess i'ts no problem when I found out how to properly port mechanize or clientform to port the deps :-) | 19:18 |
| flux | it looks to me like the package has a very good chance to install without any issues | 19:18 |
| blubbi | scratchbox compiled... lets set it up an test it | 19:18 |
| blubbi | flux: when it installs without hazle, what's the next step to get it into the maemo repository (devel/testing) | 19:19 |
| flux | blubbi, no idea | 19:19 |
| flux | blubbi, I'm mostly lurking here ;) | 19:20 |
| blubbi | I must admitt, I never used debian before... I am used to write ebuilds, whats looks way easier than building such a package... at least for me ;-) | 19:20 |
| blubbi | damn... no binfmt_misc in kernel... recompiling kernel... *mpf* | 19:21 |
| blubbi | lets upgrade to the lates while on it... | 19:21 |
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| sr71 | this is a good guide to building Debian packages: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/maint-guide/ch-build.en.html | 19:26 |
| sr71 | actually meant this: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/maint-guide/index.en.html#contents | 19:27 |
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| blubbi | sr71: damn that looks complicated... | 19:39 |
| blubbi | sr71: but thanks for the link | 19:39 |
| blubbi | rebooting new kernel | 19:40 |
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| blubbi | re | 19:54 |
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| fiferboy | One would expect con_ic_connection_disconnect to disconnect from the internet | 21:58 |
| fiferboy | But apparently it doesn't... | 21:58 |
| woglinde | hi fiferboy | 21:59 |
| fiferboy | Hi woglinde | 22:00 |
| fiferboy | Anyone have any experience with conic? | 22:00 |
| woglinde | no | 22:00 |
| frals | fiferboy: ive noticed that as well | 22:04 |
| frals | after reading the libconic docs i found a dbus signal that actually does disconnect you, but it comes with the disclaimer "dont use this in your applications" | 22:04 |
| fiferboy | frals: I was going to check for a dbus way | 22:05 |
| frals | dbus-send --system --print-reply --dest=com.nokia.icd2 /com/nokia/icd2 com.nokia.icd2.disconnect_req uint32:0x8000 | 22:05 |
| frals | disclaimer along the lines of "please dont use this, not safe" or something like that ;) | 22:05 |
| fiferboy | frals: Thanks. I wonder what the concern about it is | 22:05 |
| frals | since it forces the connection closed, it might be unpleasant for the user if theres something using said connection | 22:06 |
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| fiferboy | frals: I found a slightly different looking command | 22:10 |
| fiferboy | dbus-send --system --dest=com.nokia.icd /com/nokia/icd_ui com.nokia.icd_ui.disconnect boolean:true | 22:10 |
| ruskie | gah... forgot what I wanted to check on tmo... grumbl | 22:10 |
| frals | fiferboy: does it work as expected? :) | 22:11 |
| fiferboy | frals: Checking... | 22:11 |
| fiferboy | frals: It works | 22:12 |
| frals | fiferboy: cool | 22:12 |
| fiferboy | frals: I found it here - http://wiki.maemo.org/Phone_control#dbus-send-disconnect-net | 22:13 |
| frals | ta | 22:16 |
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| blubbi_ | mmh, how do I gain root access in the Maemo Scratchbox? | 22:26 |
| blubbi_ | do I miss anything? There's no "su" command, nor can I run sudo gainroot as my current user (blub) | 22:27 |
| pH5 | blubbi_: use fakeroot. it all belongs to your user, really. | 22:28 |
| blubbi_ | okay | 22:28 |
| blubbi_ | than it's fine | 22:29 |
| blubbi_ | okay, one more stupid question from a Gentoo user: How do I install a .deb file with apt-get? I downlaoded mechanize and want to install it in the SDK | 22:30 |
| sr71 | dpkg -i file.deb | 22:31 |
| blubbi_ | okay, thanks | 22:31 |
| sr71 | np | 22:32 |
| blubbi_ | is there a way to find out from which repo python-mechanize is comming? Apparently it is in a repo in the scratchbox, but on my phone I can't find it | 22:36 |
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| woglinde | blubbi try apt-cache show python-mechanize | 22:47 |
| blubbi | woglinde: does "Priority: extra" mean Extras repository? | 22:47 |
| woglinde | hm | 22:47 |
| woglinde | not sure at the moment | 22:48 |
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| blubbi | woglinde: someone on #debian told me it is not possible | 22:48 |
| blubbi | damn it | 22:48 |
| flux | blubbi, try apt-cache showpkg | 22:49 |
| flux | blubbi, I think it shows from which index the info comes from.. should give the repo indirectly. | 22:49 |
| blubbi | flux: I am new to Debian, never used it. In Gentoo it's easy... "eix mechanize" | 22:50 |
| flux | blubbi, well, perhaps you can port Gentoo to N900, or you could use apt-cache showpkg :) | 22:51 |
| blubbi | *G* | 22:51 |
| flux | ke192100 < blubbi> damn... no binfmt_misc in kernel... recompiling kernel... *mpf* | 22:51 |
| flux | whops | 22:51 |
| blubbi | flux: well apt-cache showpkg python-mechanize does not yield usefull information for me :-) | 22:51 |
| flux | blubbi, wel, it's not installed via apt, is it? | 22:52 |
| flux | blubbi, I don't think it's possible indeed to find from which repo an installed package originates | 22:52 |
| blubbi | flux: it is not installed at all right now... I just wanted to figure out the repo | 22:52 |
| flux | blubbi, so what does it say? | 22:52 |
| blubbi | flux: mom Nopasting | 22:52 |
| blubbi | flux: http://paste.pocoo.org/show/167680/ | 22:53 |
| flux | blubbi, showpkg, not show | 22:53 |
| blubbi | see Line 30 | 22:53 |
| flux | oh, right | 22:53 |
| blubbi | ;-) | 22:54 |
| pH5 | Versions: 0.1.11-1.1(/var/lib/dpkg/status) | 22:54 |
| pH5 | that happens when you install via dpkg -i | 22:54 |
| flux | blubbi, is it available via apt? | 22:54 |
| flux | blubbi, because I don't find it.. | 22:54 |
| pH5 | the deb is not available in any active repositories at all | 22:54 |
| blubbi | looks like it is | 22:54 |
| pH5 | where did you download it from? | 22:54 |
| blubbi | Okay, now I am confused | 22:54 |
| blubbi | I just downloaded the clientform and mechanize deb to my homedir | 22:55 |
| blubbi | but didn't do anything with them | 22:55 |
| flux | well, then you didn't install it from apt.. | 22:55 |
| blubbi | I installed nothing | 22:55 |
| flux | and infact you couldn't have installed it via apt, as apt knows nothing of it | 22:55 |
| flux | (well, it does know a little it seems ;)) | 22:56 |
| flux | well, for me apt-cache show(pkg) python-mechanize says W: Unable to locate package python-mechanize | 22:56 |
| flux | and I have extras and extras-devel enabled | 22:56 |
| flux | did you have it installed at some point? | 22:56 |
| blubbi | flux: give me a second | 22:57 |
| flux | what does dpkg -l python-mechanize | grep python say? | 22:57 |
| h5v16no0 | hi all trying to work out how to embed html in a c desktop widget | 22:58 |
| blubbi | flux: iU python-mechanize 0.1.11-1.1 stateful programmatic web browsing | 22:58 |
| blubbi | flux: mom checking my backlog | 22:58 |
| flux | blubbi, so it's almost installed | 22:59 |
| flux | blubbi, for example dpkg -L python-mechanize will show where its files are, yes? | 22:59 |
| h5v16no0 | what's the best way to do it? Seen gtkmozembed which looks great but not sure how to get it so i can include and link against it in scratch box | 22:59 |
| blubbi | flux: http://paste.pocoo.org/show/167682/ | 22:59 |
| SpeedEvil | blubbi: your mom reads your backlog? | 23:00 |
| SpeedEvil | blubbi: oh | 23:00 |
| blubbi | SpeedEvil: mom == moment | 23:00 |
| * SpeedEvil just woke up - sorry. | 23:00 | |
| blubbi | SpeedEvil: :-) | 23:00 |
| flux | blubbi, so its files are installed, but it cannot be configured because its dependencies are not installed | 23:00 |
| blubbi | flux: ah, okay, I thougth it was not installed | 23:00 |
| flux | blubbi, dpkg --configure -a will try to configure it again | 23:01 |
| flux | of course, does nothing good until you've installed the deps | 23:01 |
| blubbi | flux: k, co clientform an central... lets see what happens | 23:02 |
| blubbi | flux: is there a way to reset the scratchbox? | 23:08 |
| blubbi | flux: or sould I just reinstall scratchbox? | 23:08 |
| woglinde | hi speedevil | 23:10 |
| SpeedEvil | h | 23:10 |
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| blubbi | Do I have to optify python-clientform_0.2.10-2.1_all.deb and python-mechanize_0.1.11-1.1_all.deb or are the folder /usr/share/pyshared and /usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages already "optified"? | 23:24 |
| woglinde | blubbi dpkg -L says that | 23:26 |
| woglinde | hm wait | 23:27 |
| woglinde | for python there is python-optify | 23:27 |
| woglinde | let your package depend on it | 23:27 |
| blubbi | I would like to push these two packages because my program depends on them | 23:27 |
| woglinde | and python-optify will use unionmount | 23:27 |
| blubbi | woglinde: so I have to repackage these two? | 23:28 |
| woglinde | no | 23:28 |
| woglinde | hm yes | 23:28 |
| woglinde | sorry | 23:28 |
| blubbi | woglinde: what now :)? | 23:28 |
| woglinde | you have to repack them | 23:28 |
| woglinde | thats for sure | 23:28 |
| woglinde | http://wiki.maemo.org/Free_up_rootfs_space#Optify_python | 23:28 |
| blubbi | woglinde: okay, any good howto? | 23:29 |
| woglinde | let both depends on pymaemo-optify | 23:29 |
| woglinde | aeh RDEPENDS | 23:29 |
| woglinde | sorry | 23:29 |
| blubbi | woglinde: these two packages are from debain stock repo... I didn't make them... and I am comming from gentoo Linux so I have to learn how to make packages... so do you know a good howto/tutorial how I can repackage clientform and mechanize? | 23:30 |
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| woglinde | use apt-get source | 23:35 |
| woglinde | edit changelog and control file | 23:35 |
| woglinde | use the autobuilder | 23:35 |
| woglinde | changelog should become maemo1 as suffix | 23:35 |
| woglinde | like other packages | 23:35 |
| woglinde | and mentioned your dep change | 23:36 |
| blubbi | okay, sounds easy :-) right now I am reading on meamo wiki about packaging :-) | 23:36 |
| blubbi | thanks a lot | 23:36 |
| woglinde | in control file | 23:36 |
| woglinde | add pymaemo-optify as RDEPENDS | 23:36 |
| blubbi | woglinde: and just adding pymaemo-optify to RDEPEND is enough and will do the trick? | 23:36 |
| blubbi | okay, I see | 23:36 |
| woglinde | put Maintainer to XSBC-Original-Maintainer: | 23:38 |
| woglinde | put into Maintainer your own name | 23:38 |
| woglinde | that would be the right way | 23:38 |
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| blubbi | woglinde: okay, thanks, I'll try that. | 23:39 |
| blubbi | woglinde: next step would be to add those packages to extras-testin? | 23:39 |
| woglinde | sure | 23:39 |
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| woglinde | https://garage.maemo.org/extras-assistant/index.php?step=1 | 23:39 |
| blubbi | k, so lets get on :-) Thanks for the help! | 23:39 |
| woglinde | example for changelog change | 23:40 |
| woglinde | 0.2.0~svn2865+dfsg.1-1 | 23:41 |
| woglinde | -> 0.2.0~svn2916+dfsg.1-1maemo1 | 23:41 |
| blubbi | woglinde: okay, I see | 23:41 |
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