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| goodwill | 2 questions .. | 01:22 |
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| goodwill | is it possible to place a widget over the status bar area | 01:22 |
| goodwill | ? | 01:22 |
| goodwill | and 2 if not ... what is the pixel size of the desktop - status area ? size | 01:22 |
| goodwill | anyone know where that information is at | 01:23 |
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| goodwill | there seems to be very little documentation libhildondesktop documentation | 01:54 |
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| goodwill | ah foudn it | 02:30 |
| goodwill | foudn it | 02:30 |
| goodwill | found | 02:30 |
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| [Tycho] | Hello, people. | 03:04 |
| [Tycho] | Is anyone alive ? | 03:07 |
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| goodwill | sure | 04:07 |
| goodwill | well maybe | 04:07 |
| goodwill | I guess no | 04:07 |
| [Tycho] | I tried to install maemo SDK 2.2 almost by tutorial, but can't get it to work. It shows me this error: http://tr00.ru/ub_01.png | 04:07 |
| [Tycho] | What can be the cause ? | 04:08 |
| goodwill | dunno | 04:09 |
| goodwill | I am learning all this stuff myself | 04:09 |
| goodwill | currently developing against the actual device | 04:09 |
| [Tycho] | Compiling on it ? | 04:09 |
| goodwill | I am doing python | 04:10 |
| goodwill | no compiling needed | 04:10 |
| goodwill | though eventually I am sure | 04:10 |
| goodwill | but there are definately folks here who know things | 04:11 |
| goodwill | so keep hanging out | 04:11 |
| goodwill | eventually someone will answer | 04:11 |
| goodwill | [Tycho]: you might have a better luck with a Virtual PC image ... convert it to virtualbox or vmware first I guess | 04:19 |
| goodwill | the vpc image is all preinstalled | 04:19 |
| [Tycho] | What image ? Where is it ? | 04:22 |
| [Tycho] | I tried with ubuntu on vmware :) | 04:22 |
| goodwill | http://wiki.maemo.org/Documentation/Maemo_5_Developer_Guide/Development_Environment/Maemo_SDK_Virtual_Images | 04:22 |
| goodwill | http://vpc-sdk.garage.maemo.org/ | 04:23 |
| goodwill | its a Virtual PC image | 04:24 |
| goodwill | but I am pretty sure its easy to convert to vmware or virtualbox or parallels | 04:24 |
| goodwill | whatever you like to use | 04:24 |
| [Tycho] | I can use Virtual PC, i think. | 04:24 |
| goodwill | its only for windows | 04:24 |
| [Tycho] | Of course. What other OS can be found on desktop ? :) | 04:25 |
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| [Tycho] | But will "Fremantle SDK" compile for OS2006 (n770) ? | 04:26 |
| goodwill | I do not think there is backward compatibility | 04:26 |
| goodwill | I only got started with n900 | 04:26 |
| [Tycho] | Then it's useless :( | 04:27 |
| goodwill | there is a lot of post about that on talk.maemo.org | 04:27 |
| goodwill | posts | 04:27 |
| goodwill | check them out | 04:27 |
| [Tycho] | Thanks for advice. | 04:33 |
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| goodwill | does anyone know if hildon-desktop home icons size is something that could be set externally | 06:11 |
| goodwill | found it ... | 06:28 |
| goodwill | hardcoded to 64 | 06:29 |
| jebba | ga, shoulda mentioned something. ya, 64. | 06:48 |
| goodwill | jebba: do yo know if its possible to have multiple instances of the widget on the desktop ... as far as I see no ... but who knows | 06:51 |
| jebba | goodwill: not that i've been able to do | 06:52 |
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| goodwill | anyone know how to make a widget window transparent | 07:29 |
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| goodwill | gtk ... tried set_opacity on it ... | 07:30 |
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| goodwill | nothing | 07:31 |
| goodwill | does any one know where the source code repo is for onversations-inbox-widget? | 07:43 |
| jebba | goodwill: you should be able to `apt-get source ` it from fremantle/free repo | 07:53 |
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| goodwill | jebba: good call .. | 07:56 |
| goodwill | jebba: I am not having any luck with src repos | 08:09 |
| goodwill | jebba: I am not even sure where they are | 08:09 |
| goodwill | ah found it | 08:10 |
| jebba | #deb-src http://repository.maemo.org/ fremantle/sdk free | 08:11 |
| jebba | #deb-src http://repository.maemo.org/ fremantle/tools free | 08:11 |
| jebba | #deb-src http://repository.maemo.org/extras/ fremantle free | 08:11 |
| jebba | #deb-src http://repository.maemo.org/extras-testing/ fremantle free | 08:11 |
| jebba | #deb-src http://repository.maemo.org/extras-devel/ fremantle free | 08:11 |
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| hrw | morning | 10:56 |
| hrw | qemu: uncaught target signal 11 (Segmentation fault) - core dumped | 11:02 |
| hrw | getsockopt level=1 optname=17 not yet supported | 11:02 |
| hrw | qemu: uncaught target signal 6 (Aborted) - core dumped | 11:02 |
| hrw | does someone uses fremantle_armel in sdk with full hildon session running? | 11:03 |
| Stskeeps | not supported afaik | 11:10 |
| hrw | crap | 11:11 |
| Stskeeps | (GL in qemu is probably a bit fun) | 11:11 |
| hrw | I have few updates built for armel and prefer to check them in sdk before breaking phone | 11:11 |
| hrw | there is qemu with GL in Moblin but thats too new for maemo | 11:12 |
| Stskeeps | url? | 11:12 |
| hrw | I wonder who decided that maemo5 is based on Etch + bits of Lenny + bits of Squezzy + archeologic bits | 11:12 |
| Stskeeps | whoever decided "oh, yes, let's use scratchbox1 again" | 11:13 |
| hrw | sorry, http://git.pokylinux.org/cgit.cgi/poky/tree/meta/packages/qemu/qemu-git/qemu-git-qemugl-host.patch is one of OpenGL patches | 11:14 |
| hrw | even that crap calles sbox could get newer rootfs I think | 11:14 |
| Stskeeps | devkit issues :/ | 11:14 |
| hrw | money makes miracles | 11:14 |
| hrw | but why to spent any money when we can do s/OS2005/Maemo5/ and ship it | 11:15 |
| hrw | ;D | 11:15 |
| hrw | btw - how many people uses Mer? | 11:15 |
| Stskeeps | i don't have exact numbers but since we're not exactly day to day usable yet | 11:16 |
| hrw | and you base on quite recent ubuntu - right? | 11:16 |
| Stskeeps | jaunty, moving to karmic soon | 11:16 |
| Stskeeps | (glib issue) | 11:16 |
| Stskeeps | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yApkMMlrjRA - cool little demo | 11:17 |
| hrw | nice | 11:20 |
| hrw | you are using old h-a-m? | 11:20 |
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| Stskeeps | an older version, upgrading soon i think | 11:21 |
| hrw | http://marcin.juszkiewicz.com.pl/2010/01/04/are-maemo5-developer-tools-obsolete/ | 11:26 |
| Stskeeps | :nod: | 11:27 |
| Stskeeps | that said, i do think they're doing something about it | 11:27 |
| hrw | maybe for maemo6 | 11:27 |
| hrw | definitelly not for maemo5 | 11:27 |
| Stskeeps | well, there's MADDE and SB2 | 11:28 |
| Stskeeps | which admittedly doesn't help much with extras | 11:28 |
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| scoopr | howdy | 13:23 |
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| jebba | ah ya, my guile package that i submitted three days ago just finished with a weird error. I forgot I even did it. | 16:30 |
| Stskeeps | morning jebba | 16:30 |
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| jebba | morn | 16:33 |
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| VDVsx | jebba, I'll reply to your mail (@council) later today, I've have a lot to catch up :( | 17:01 |
| jebba | VDVsx: ok | 17:04 |
| hrw | hi jebba | 17:06 |
| hrw | heh... why sdk packages are not friendly to device | 17:08 |
| jebba | hola hrw :) | 17:08 |
| hrw | argh... | 17:11 |
| hrw | maemo5 is deprecated | 17:11 |
| hrw | more and more time spent on it == more and more and more old, antique software found | 17:13 |
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| woglinde | hrw jupp | 17:45 |
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| joejoe | hi, I am playing with sharing plugin template. I managed to compile and install template, but it seems to be death. I modified validate function in exactly one line (modified url to my local apache), next I started signond and tried to create and validate account. But it is not working and i do not know why. | 17:46 |
| Hrww | woglinde: the problem is that updating components can lead to broken device - hard to fix without serial cables | 17:48 |
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| woglinde | hrw sure | 17:52 |
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| woglinde | some one mentioned how to get serial console | 17:52 |
| woglinde | but I didnt follow it closely | 17:52 |
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| KamuiWrk | sweet, didn't know about this chan :) | 18:07 |
| Jaffa | Sshh, it's secret | 18:07 |
| Pudding-n900 | ^^ | 18:09 |
| [Tycho] | It doesn't helps anyway :) | 18:22 |
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| jebba | woglinde: with usb serial cable or something that would be great. I'm not sure how it would be done though. There may be a hint in /etc/inittab | 19:50 |
| woglinde | hm I think stskeep has it running | 19:50 |
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| jebba | well, he also is nokia paid so can get access to docs/things not publicly available. | 20:12 |
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| andrewgodwin | hrm, are the SSH keys for the extras-devel dput stuff only synced every day or something? | 23:12 |
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