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| bobbyd | hi | 00:20 |
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| bobbyd | I'm working on porting arcem to the n900 | 00:22 |
| bobbyd | it's running now but i need to scale the video output to the screen | 00:23 |
| bobbyd | is there a known good way to do that? I'm thinking of using gles and writing the video data to a texture, does that seem like a good approach? | 00:23 |
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| bobbyd | everyone asleep? :) | 01:02 |
| bobbyd | or madly coding? :) | 01:02 |
| ifreq | im digging graves | 01:06 |
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| bobbyd | fair enough | 01:18 |
| jebba | bobbyd: madly "coding" | 01:48 |
| jebba | package monkeying it, more like | 01:48 |
| jebba | xulrunner-1.9.3a1pre ... | 01:49 |
| bobbyd | :) | 01:50 |
| jebba | /home/jebba/xulrunner/freemoe/xulrunner-1.9.3a1pre/ipc/chromium/src/base/message_pump_glib.h:57: error: ISO C++ forbids declaration of 'GMainContext' with no type | 01:52 |
| jebba | etc. yawn ;) | 01:52 |
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| jebba | https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=534644 | 01:54 |
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| * jebba hearts quilt | 02:08 | |
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| * jebba built supercrufty firefox for n900 :) | 03:10 | |
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| Miniscalope | im trying to compile a file and i got "undefined reference "errors. Headers are well include and present in scratchbox/.../usr/include | 04:46 |
| Miniscalope | it compile when i use the -shared option | 04:46 |
| Miniscalope | any ideas? | 04:46 |
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| Miniscalope | pkg-config ftw | 05:00 |
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| flux41 | I was just trying to test out the liblocation example for fremantle, but the example code is giving me a invalid conversion from 'void*' to 'LocationGPSDevice*' error when I try to use g_object_new like the example says. Any ideas? | 07:17 |
| flux41 | the example I am referencing is found here: http://wiki.maemo.org/Documentation/Maemo_5_Developer_Guide/Using_Connectivity_Components/Using_Location_API | 07:21 |
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| Winnah | Who here knows coding to some extent? (for Maemo of course) | 08:34 |
| flux41 | I quite a few languages, but I'm trying to work my way into maemo development. Why? | 08:36 |
| Winnah | Just been brainstorming some ideas for the whole MMS support lack, thought someone might be able to tell me if they work or not | 08:37 |
| flux41 | Ahh. yeah I'm trying to get my head around liblocation and libconic I keep hitting a few undocumented brick walls lol | 08:39 |
| Winnah | Yeah, I see quite a few people saddened by closed/undocumented areas. I thought of a way to patch together a few things and get a patched together MMS. I'm about to write a reply in the brainstorm page, I'll link it in a minute. | 08:41 |
| flux41 | cool thanks | 08:41 |
| Winnah | http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=32129&page=10 | 08:51 |
| Winnah | Let me know what you think :) | 08:52 |
| ruskie | lol saddened... I think the word you're looking for might be frustrated ;) | 08:53 |
| ruskie | or annoyed :) | 08:53 |
| Winnah | Yeah, I would be frustrated if I didn't have another phone that is on Sprint that I can use for it :P Just two phones needs to be eliminated soon :P | 08:54 |
| Winnah | Anyone's opinions on the idea? | 09:03 |
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| Winnah | Baali do you do maemo development at all? | 09:13 |
| baali | I have a doubt, the GUI python installer for sdk asks for proxy settings on GUI, but it asks for username pass on command prompt | 09:13 |
| baali | Winnah: just downloaded the sdk installer was trying out some stuff | 09:14 |
| Winnah | Ah, any interest in MMS? | 09:15 |
| baali | Winnah never tried that | 09:15 |
| ruskie | Winnah, I didn't use it vhen I had phones capable of it... waht makes you think I'll have a need now? | 09:16 |
| ruskie | I used email even then | 09:16 |
| baali | Winnah: i have worked on j2ME for some IRC app, and was working on andriod sdk for one more project | 09:16 |
| Winnah | Alright, http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=32129&page=10 you can look at the last post, maybe you can give a suggestion. | 09:16 |
| baali | So i was wondering can we add the username password field also in GUI itself?? | 09:17 |
| Winnah | Ruskie, hah, no one truly NEEDS MMS, but you can have picture messaging and not pay for the data plan (not the case with N900) | 09:17 |
| ruskie | btw why do you need an http server? | 09:22 |
| ruskie | all you really need is the image | 09:22 |
| ruskie | or basically you need to rip out all the data and stuff it into some other thingn to view | 09:23 |
| Winnah | Hmm, I thought about that, but you'd have to write the program to do so, the MMS program on the server has been made before. | 09:24 |
| ruskie | erm | 09:24 |
| ruskie | just atke the jpeg and open it in the image viewer | 09:24 |
| Winnah | I have a feeling that MMS is a little bit more complicated than just a jpeg and a SMS merged in one :P | 09:25 |
| ruskie | well from reading your post that's what you defined :) | 09:25 |
| ruskie | but yeah | 09:25 |
| ruskie | it's more like email really | 09:25 |
| ruskie | so converting it to an email and opening it an email client would probably be the better solution | 09:26 |
| Winnah | I think some Googling is in order, hahah | 09:26 |
| Winnah | I don't see any method to convert a MMS to image/email | 09:29 |
| ruskie | that's because you don't have one yet invented ;) | 09:31 |
| Winnah | Ahhaha, I only know a little Java, go other people! | 09:31 |
| Winnah | :P | 09:31 |
| Winnah | However, I may have just stumbled upon something else ;) | 09:31 |
| Winnah | What's your opinion on VLC's capability to open MMS? | 09:32 |
| ruskie | http://thinkabdul.com/2007/06/13/unimessaging-free-nokia-s60-v3-utility-to-convert-forward-messages-fromto-sms-mms-email/ <-- here's a tool | 09:32 |
| ruskie | I have no clue about VLCs capability nor do I really care about it | 09:32 |
| ruskie | http://www.mbuni.org/userguide.shtml <-- what you might need to do with MMSes as well | 09:33 |
| Winnah | Well, we now have three options. First, the one I wrote. Second, VLC ported to N900. Third, Convert from MMS to Email (costs money for the Pro Version, not very open source :P). All of these rely on the hope that MMS messages are stored somewhere local : | 09:36 |
| Winnah | :/ | 09:36 |
| Winnah | That, plus UniMessaging I believe is only Symbian, not sure if it could even be ran, but somebody could port it... | 09:38 |
| ruskie | or 4: write your own MMS client | 09:39 |
| ruskie | last I checked MMS == WAP MIME encoded messages that are transported over TCP/IP | 09:40 |
| ruskie | so I'm guessing converting it to email shouldn't be all that hard | 09:40 |
| Winnah | Read through the topic that I posted in, I'm pretty sure there's some big problem with this. | 09:41 |
| Winnah | I lack the true technical knowledge to understand it. | 09:41 |
| ruskie | would probably just need a MMS server listening on the right port on the N900 or maybe even an SMS port | 09:41 |
| ruskie | not sure about the SMS port but from what I know MMS tends to be data | 09:42 |
| ruskie | and rather expensive data most of the time | 09:42 |
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| Winnah | Yeah, I wish we had the details of how the MMS is handled once it hits the N900 | 09:45 |
| frals | the SMS/IP push message is handled by wappushd, you register a handler for "x-wap-application:mms.ua" and after that you just have to parse it, connect to the the mms gateway and send a m-retrieve.ind (iirc) | 10:01 |
| frals | im working on a very ugly hack to do it basically, and its gonna depend alot on the carrier if ir works or not as (from what ive gathered) require you use a specific APN to get MMSes | 10:02 |
| frals | Winnah: http://wiki.maemo.org/Task:MMS some brainstorming that has been done on the subject already :) | 10:04 |
| Winnah | Yeah, I saw that. Been hoping you were on. Two questions, would my way work? and what carriers? | 10:05 |
| frals | can skip out the webserver (what is it meant to do?) | 10:06 |
| frals | but that pretty much what im doing atm i guess | 10:07 |
| Winnah | Its mostly to support the program that parses the MMS since I know they exist, but I don't know of programs written for maemo that do it standalone | 10:07 |
| frals | oh, theres a few libs linked on the wikipage that parses MMS | 10:08 |
| frals | im using the python one, works great | 10:08 |
| Winnah | Oh, I haven't completely explored, just browsed lightly. For the time being, email to messaging account = MMS ghetto | 10:09 |
| frals | yeah, i told my gf to just send all MMSes she wants to send me to my email instead ;D | 10:10 |
| Winnah | Winky for underlying reasons? :P That's the real reason anyone wants MMS, ahahhahah | 10:11 |
| frals | ;) | 10:11 |
| Winnah | So, life = complete | 10:13 |
| Winnah | Hah | 10:13 |
| frals | on the carrier subject, i have no idea how specific carriers work, ive only figured out how to do it on my own (tele2 sweden), but usually you can just check their website for settings and see if there is a difference between MMS/Internet settings | 10:13 |
| Winnah | Where to find them is the question though :P | 10:14 |
| Winnah | I just laughed, Google, type "T-Mobile USA " and see APN Settings and MMS Settings. Hah | 10:17 |
| Winnah | Connection Name: PictureMessaging Data bearer: Packet data Access point name: wap.voicestream.com User name: N/A Password: N/A Authentication: Normal Homepage: http://216.155.174.84/servlets/mms Advanced Settings (Handsets not equiped with WAP 2.0 may skip this section) Proxy serv address: 216.155.165.050 Proxy port number: 8080 | 10:20 |
| Winnah | that? | 10:20 |
| Winnah | You should add in different settings for the carriers, after you get it working of course :P but, trust me, people will thank you :) | 10:23 |
| frals | im hardcoding shit atm just to get it working as its fugly ;) | 10:23 |
| Winnah | Yeah, what is the code written in again? (slipped my mind :P) | 10:24 |
| frals | python | 10:24 |
| Winnah | Can't help you :/ | 10:24 |
| Winnah | Java, I could tell you about how to write Hello World, wait, I probably couldn't do that, lmao | 10:24 |
| frals | hehe no worries, i think ive got most of it under control as far as receiving goes for now :) | 10:25 |
| Winnah | However, if you want me to test out the app on my n900 with my carrier, I'm not busy at the moment :) | 10:25 |
| frals | ill post in the thread when i got something i need people to test, atm its a lot of manual stuff to do between steps, working on integrating them and getting it automated as we speak ;) | 10:26 |
| Winnah | How soon do you think you'll need somebody? I'll be up for another 2 hours or so :) | 10:30 |
| frals | uh, not that soon :D | 10:31 |
| frals | probably a few days rather than hours ;) | 10:31 |
| Winnah | :( give me the manual steps and I can try :P | 10:31 |
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| BabelO | morning | 11:07 |
| Winnah | mornigh | 11:19 |
| Winnah | morning* | 11:20 |
| Winnah | How's it going? | 11:25 |
| Winnah | Good night all | 11:55 |
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| ruskie | gah... this is annoying with: bug: moved -> brainstorm | 14:34 |
| Stskeeps | well, there's the positive side of moved to BS | 14:35 |
| Stskeeps | nokia managers have committed to acting upon it | 14:35 |
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| ruskie | erm | 14:41 |
| ruskie | since when? | 14:41 |
| ruskie | I really don't see a point in having N different places for the same thing | 14:41 |
| ifreq | i read "nokia managers have committed suicide" | 14:41 |
| ifreq | but read wrong :( | 14:42 |
| Stskeeps | ruskie: well that's what quim said | 14:43 |
| ruskie | have an enhancments project in bugzilla directly and have stuff discussed there | 14:43 |
| ruskie | Stskeeps, the way I understand that is: get it out of here we don't want to hear anything about it lalalalalala | 14:43 |
| Stskeeps | ruskie: well you're wrong in this particular case.. it's that bugzilla isn't often tangible enough | 14:45 |
| ruskie | well looking at brainstorm I have problems with it's tangibility as well | 14:47 |
| ruskie | atleast so far haven't found a: list all brainstorms | 14:47 |
| Stskeeps | i agree the interface has problems | 14:47 |
| Stskeeps | but it is a step in the right direction and it's something that should be improved | 14:48 |
| Stskeeps | BUT, there's nothing else to do than help out with it, this is something the community works with | 14:48 |
| ruskie | and I'm curious... are there any statistics that say how many BS's went to bugzilla yet? | 14:48 |
| ruskie | or some other link between them | 14:48 |
| ruskie | also I'd keep the bug opened just assign it to brainstorm and a link to the brainstorm | 14:48 |
| Stskeeps | basically non-trivial enhancement requests were moved there | 14:49 |
| Stskeeps | i can see a benefit to the open source queue going to BS too | 14:50 |
| ruskie | erm | 14:53 |
| Stskeeps | http://wiki.maemo.org/Why_the_closed_packages#Requesting_the_opening_of_closed_components | 14:53 |
| ruskie | until all of these are linked into a common setup and can cross-reference themselves easily would be better | 14:53 |
| ruskie | to have a single setup | 14:54 |
| ruskie | if a bug get's moved to brainstorm the brainstorm should be created by the one doing the moving and linked back to the bug | 14:54 |
| ruskie | and how decides a brainstorm is ready for re-opening the initial bug once a solution is decided upon? | 14:55 |
| ruskie | what's the meassure by which a solution would be decided upon | 14:55 |
| Stskeeps | :nod: | 14:58 |
| Stskeeps | well, only one way to deal with it and it is participating in the process | 14:58 |
| ruskie | http://maemo.org/community/brainstorm/view/store_sms_messages_in_an_imap_folder/ <-- this is for example my only brainstorm... it seems to have some support... but I'm guessing just 5 votes for a solution aren't enough to actually push it anywhere | 14:59 |
| ruskie | as for the open sourcing queue why even have a queue... just have: everything that can possibly be open sourced should be open sourced | 15:01 |
| Stskeeps | nah | 15:06 |
| Stskeeps | doesn't work like that | 15:06 |
| Stskeeps | people tried that for 2-3 years, didn't work | 15:07 |
| Stskeeps | : | 15:07 |
| Stskeeps | P | 15:07 |
| ruskie | is there somewhere one could express their views on how brainstorm and the rest should function or not? | 15:07 |
| Stskeeps | yes, talk.maemo.org, maemo-community | 15:07 |
| Stskeeps | it's a community thing, not nokia | 15:07 |
| ruskie | I mean maybe a sticky someplace about the process | 15:08 |
| Stskeeps | there's a video, too | 15:09 |
| ruskie | maybe I should be more precise about improvments to the process | 15:10 |
| ruskie | not how it works but how to enhance it | 15:11 |
| ruskie | maybe a sticky in the brainstorm forum about enhancing the process or something | 15:12 |
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| hrw | morning | 16:49 |
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| jebba | morn | 17:11 |
| Stskeeps | moin | 17:11 |
| jebba | Stskeeps: hey, i saw in qaiku that n900 port for mer exists. But i can't find anything about it in the wiki or anything. Where should I be looking. | 17:12 |
| jebba | i'll be real happy to ditch nokia for something "freer" | 17:12 |
| Stskeeps | jebba: guess what i'm spending my day on | 17:13 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 17:13 |
| jebba | cooool! | 17:13 |
| ruskie | mmm | 17:13 |
| jebba | i will definitely be full-time-mer once i get the ball rolling. That might not be til jan 20 though as i'm going to be pretty disconnected for a couple weeks here in jan. | 17:13 |
| Stskeeps | i just got OBS building against GLES1.1 and 2.0 without actual closed source libs there | 17:14 |
| Stskeeps | so we can drop in the accelerated libs | 17:14 |
| ruskie | I'd like atleast the same basic func that maemo has on the n900 with mer | 17:14 |
| ruskie | anything beyond that is a bonus | 17:14 |
| Stskeeps | at least mer is in a better shape than a year ago | 17:14 |
| jebba | Stskeeps: re: GLES, you mean no closed GL etc? | 17:15 |
| ruskie | I'd help out more or even bother trying to figure out this debian packaging crap but I already help out in a source based distro that's so much easier that I just can't be bothered | 17:15 |
| Stskeeps | jebba: well. to get acceleration we will need closed GL. BUT, what i made is a way for us to build against GLES1.1 and 2.0 APIs without having closed libs uploaded to our builder | 17:15 |
| Stskeeps | which we can't | 17:15 |
| jebba | ah. Stskeeps but will the final system be usable (slow, but usable) without the closed part? | 17:16 |
| Stskeeps | jebba: atm this is the situation on all. but the goal is to have a qtablet based desktop for non-accel. | 17:16 |
| Stskeeps | which emulates the fremantle desktop | 17:17 |
| Stskeeps | so you start out with qmantle and you can opt in for getting the accelerated desktop at expense of your freedom | 17:17 |
| * ruskie doesn't see much point in an accelerated desktop | 17:19 | |
| ruskie | give me a well configured fvwm setup with libstroke support and there'll be nice gestures as well | 17:19 |
| Stskeeps | well you have freedom to do so :P | 17:19 |
| Stskeeps | we probably can't get around blobs for celluar stuff though but so it goes | 17:20 |
| ruskie | I can live with binary firmware | 17:20 |
| ruskie | but I'd like for userspace to be Free | 17:20 |
| ruskie | hmm it seems modest actually supports subscriptions | 17:20 |
| Stskeeps | either way, we have a solid foundation to start with a more open system on n900 than we did on n8x0 | 17:21 |
| ruskie | hmm I do wonder... strokes in fvwm would probably need a bit of work to actually make usable the way I'd like to | 17:22 |
| jebba | Stskeeps: well ofono looks *very* promising. Even seems to be what nokia themselves want to do. | 17:30 |
| ruskie | I just hope it gets done sometime soon ;) | 17:31 |
| ruskie | btw does Mer also include contacts in the same way as the n900... i.e. show status of IM with the contact? | 17:31 |
| Stskeeps | heh, you underestimate how much is OSS'eddd of maemo | 17:31 |
| Stskeeps | er, overestimate | 17:32 |
| ruskie | ahh | 17:32 |
| ruskie | :) | 17:32 |
| ruskie | not really | 17:32 |
| ruskie | I consider it's mostly closed | 17:32 |
| Stskeeps | we can probably get more opened if we start showing a good organisation | 17:32 |
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| hrw | ruskie: which ver of modest? | 17:44 |
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| jeremiah | aha | 17:49 |
| jeremiah | gotcha! | 17:49 |
| Stskeeps | #maemo's really catching critical mass in terms of usefulness so | 17:49 |
| jeremiah | Yeah - I agree. | 17:51 |
| jeremiah | Just too noisy and off-topic | 17:52 |
| jeremiah | But I don't want to leave it entirely just yet. | 17:52 |
| Stskeeps | oh, of course | 17:52 |
| Stskeeps | but side channels has a purpose :) | 17:52 |
| jeremiah | very much so | 17:53 |
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| Jaffa | http://cartan.cas.suffolk.edu/oopdocbook/opensource/ looks like a good book for learning C++/Qt without spending any money | 17:53 |
| jeremiah | Cool | 17:54 |
| jeremiah | Good link. | 17:54 |
| jeremiah | I've been working a little with the perl bindings to Qt | 17:54 |
| Jaffa | Ooh | 17:55 |
| jeremiah | I'd like to package them for maemo one day | 17:55 |
| melfar | Is there a way to make scratchbox to run at the device speed? | 17:56 |
| Stskeeps | scratchbox isn't an emulator | 17:56 |
| jeremiah | By speed do you mean the same clock speed as the device's chip? | 17:56 |
| jeremiah | Yeah, I think you'd need an emulator for that | 17:57 |
| melfar | No, just generally, smoother animations etc. | 17:57 |
| lcuk | ok then, alternative is there a device/distro confi which gives realtime results using scratchbox | 17:57 |
| melfar | Is there an emulator available? | 17:57 |
| jeremiah | realtime as in RTOS? | 17:57 |
| jeremiah | melfar: qemu? | 17:57 |
| lcuk | as in WYSIWYG | 17:58 |
| lcuk | and can be tested using a touchscreen | 17:58 |
| lcuk | something we can recommend for the "ideal" development system | 17:58 |
| melfar | jeremiah, can it be run in qemu? | 17:59 |
| jeremiah | By it you mean what? | 17:59 |
| jeremiah | I mean, yes, you should be able to use qemu | 17:59 |
| jeremiah | But I think the easiest thing for you is to test on the device itself. | 17:59 |
| melfar | maemo5-like device | 17:59 |
| jeremiah | But you may not have one | 17:59 |
| melfar | That is the case, I only have N810 | 18:00 |
| Stskeeps | melfar: no, there's no complete n900 like device. you can possibly use a beagleboard or a zoom2 | 18:00 |
| Stskeeps | but a real n900 is really the best bet | 18:00 |
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| VDVsx | Jaffa, you don't need to spend any money for 'any' CS book :p | 18:05 |
| melfar | Stskeeps, just to clarify, I _am_ getting a N900 soon, I just meant it's good to have a well performing emulator for development purposes | 18:07 |
| Stskeeps | melfar: yeah, i agree | 18:07 |
| Stskeeps | been saying this for a year by now, but it is more complex :) | 18:07 |
| lcuk | should be able to buy n900 IDE and it should have n900 in the box :D | 18:08 |
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| jeremiah | Anyone tried Madde? | 18:17 |
| Stskeeps | no, but i love what they did | 18:17 |
| jeremiah | What did they do? | 18:17 |
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| Stskeeps | they basically implemented a subset of a debian build environment that primarily builds qt apps and libs | 18:17 |
| Stskeeps | which works on windows to | 18:18 |
| Stskeeps | o | 18:18 |
| Stskeeps | so it can build a subset of typical debian source packages | 18:18 |
| jeremiah | Awesome. | 18:18 |
| jeremiah | Clever. | 18:18 |
| jeremiah | I have to try that. | 18:18 |
| Stskeeps | done by portability of perl | 18:19 |
| jeremiah | w00t! | 18:25 |
| jeremiah | perl wins again | 18:25 |
| jeremiah | Debian is just a bunch of perl scripts gluing some C libs anyway | 18:25 |
| Stskeeps | yeah | 18:25 |
| jeremiah | They must have some serious perl hackers at Nokia though. | 18:26 |
| jeremiah | hmm | 18:26 |
| Stskeeps | that and an aggressive debian-legal list ;) | 18:26 |
| jeremiah | heh | 18:26 |
| Stskeeps | no, just a lot of debian guys i think | 18:26 |
| jeremiah | I wonder if Niko Tyni works there. | 18:26 |
| jeremiah | There are some masterful Finnish perl / debian hackers. | 18:26 |
| Stskeeps | btw, could i ask for a favour? in diablo there was a tar package, which is gnutar (http://repository.maemo.org/extras-devel/pool/diablo/free/source/t/tar/).. the busybox tar is heavily broken | 18:31 |
| Stskeeps | something that can be copied to fremantle extras-devel (can stay there) | 18:31 |
| Stskeeps | basically you cannot untar a rootfs successfully with busybox tar | 18:31 |
| jeremiah | okay | 18:32 |
| jeremiah | So, you want me to pull in the old gnutar to fremantle extras-devel? | 18:32 |
| Stskeeps | yeah | 18:39 |
| * ruskie has gtar in his repo | 18:41 | |
| ruskie | hrw|gone, from what I can tell the initial one already does it | 18:42 |
| ruskie | hrw|gone, but it doesn't seem to allow setting it | 18:42 |
| ruskie | just uses it if it's there | 18:42 |
| ruskie | and gcoreutils as well :) | 18:42 |
| Stskeeps | let's see how this mer boots.. | 18:45 |
| Stskeeps | i have serial console so that helps matters | 18:46 |
| jeremiah | boot that mer | 18:46 |
| jeremiah | I need a serial console - where did you get yours? | 18:46 |
| jebba | Stskeeps: you have serial console on n900? | 18:51 |
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| Stskeeps | it'd be difficult or directly impossible doing what i do without. | 18:53 |
| jebba | ya, for sure. but are you missing the point? I'd like to do the same. | 18:54 |
| jebba | how you do? | 18:54 |
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| jeremiah | jebba: I think on buys a serial console, then hooks up the N900. | 19:41 |
| jeremiah | I suppose there are cheap serial consoles out there. | 19:41 |
| jeremiah | http://www.debuntu.org/how-to-set-up-a-serial-console-on-debian | 19:44 |
| jebba | jeremiah: ya, but you need fancy specialized serial cable for n900. | 19:44 |
| jebba | someone build some wild device for an 810 or so to do it | 19:44 |
| jeremiah | Or mini-usb to serial | 19:44 |
| Stskeeps | jebba: oh, one thing you can play with: usb tty | 19:45 |
| Stskeeps | that would be immensely cool | 19:45 |
| jebba | yes, i was definitely thinking that too. hintstick? | 19:48 |
| jebba | i have seen some of that come up poking here and there. | 19:48 |
| Stskeeps | jebba: big hintstick. i would love a kernel with usbtty. | 19:49 |
| jebba | ah ok. will do :) | 19:51 |
| jebba | i got invited to a couple new years parties but would rather usbtty it etc ,) | 19:51 |
| lcuk | jebba, do both | 19:52 |
| lcuk | you have 24h to get usbtty compiling | 19:53 |
| lcuk | then hand out devices and let people play | 19:53 |
| jebba | haha | 19:53 |
| Stskeeps | random fact for the logs: the touchscreen is a .ko | 19:53 |
| jebba | PANEL_ACX565AKM | 19:56 |
| Stskeeps | well, the input | 19:58 |
| jebba | tsc2005.ko then ;) | 19:59 |
| ruskie | mmm usbtty would be nice | 20:01 |
| ruskie | though a proper boot loader would be nice as well | 20:01 |
| Stskeeps | woo, i has touchscreen | 20:02 |
| jeremiah | With mer? | 20:02 |
| Stskeeps | yeah | 20:02 |
| jeremiah | Cool | 20:03 |
| jebba | nice | 20:11 |
| Stskeeps | weird, mesa swx11 is not functioning well anymore | 20:11 |
| Stskeeps | on armel | 20:11 |
| woglinde | stskeep gl sw rasterer? | 20:12 |
| ruskie | I wonder if we'll ever see a Free driver for that 3d | 20:14 |
| woglinde | ruskie sgx? | 20:15 |
| woglinde | nope | 20:15 |
| ruskie | I don't expect it from Ti but by reverse enginering if anyone will do i | 20:15 |
| ruskie | t | 20:15 |
| woglinde | ruskie lardman started it some time ago | 20:16 |
| ruskie | is that the pandora stuff from a while? | 20:16 |
| woglinde | dont know | 20:17 |
| ruskie | hmm I wonder if I can somehow whack away the smilies in conversations | 20:59 |
| frals | if you find a way, please do tell :D | 21:00 |
| ruskie | I already got rid of the images | 21:01 |
| ruskie | avatars | 21:01 |
| ruskie | but it seems like smilies are in app stuff | 21:02 |
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| hrw | re | 21:37 |
| hrw | Stskeeps: which kernel you used this time and on which device? | 21:37 |
| ruskie | lo | 21:37 |
| Stskeeps | hrw: atm? pr1.0 kernel | 21:38 |
| hrw | Stskeeps: on n900? | 21:38 |
| Stskeeps | yeah | 21:38 |
| hrw | with own config this time or original one? | 21:38 |
| Stskeeps | original | 21:39 |
| Stskeeps | didn't rebuild kernel | 21:39 |
| Stskeeps | http://pastebin.com/m258e3a45 | 21:40 |
| hrw | mkey | 21:43 |
| Stskeeps | my experiments have worked when i did though | 21:44 |
| hrw | so Mer works on n900? | 21:45 |
| Stskeeps | got a weird hildon desktop problem atm, but yeah it does | 21:46 |
| Stskeeps | bootmenu is ported too | 21:46 |
| hrw | I need to build Angstrom image for it in next weeks to have something non maemo related | 21:47 |
| Stskeeps | :nod: | 21:47 |
| hrw | not for use but just to get it done | 21:48 |
| Stskeeps | http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=372885&postcount=22 | 21:49 |
| Stskeeps | is fanoush's bootmenu | 21:49 |
| hrw | ok, will read | 21:50 |
| hrw | thx | 21:50 |
| * hrw -> movies | 21:50 | |
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| ruskie | hmm so apparently modest isn't all that great of an imap client | 22:35 |
| Stskeeps | s/imap// | 22:38 |
| ruskie | lol | 22:39 |
| ruskie | someone make a mailer switchboard pwetty please | 22:39 |
| ruskie | not that claws is any better | 22:48 |
| ruskie | I wish I could just launch alpine when a mailto: event happens on dbus | 22:49 |
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| mkargar | hello | 23:11 |
| Stskeeps | hey mkargar | 23:12 |
| ruskie | lo | 23:12 |
| mkargar | i have n900!i have connect to internet share!i have internet on the eth0 (ethernet card) an i want share it by eth1(wireless card)!i tested ad-hoc!but,it is only for wirless internet connection! | 23:13 |
| mkargar | do you want help me? | 23:14 |
| Stskeeps | this is more of a development channel, mkargar | 23:15 |
| mkargar | Stskeeps:hmm!:( | 23:17 |
| ruskie | and the lack of proper communication skills doesn't help much either | 23:18 |
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| hrw | ruskie: checked /usr/share/applications/schemeinfo.cache to switch handler for mailto: links? | 23:39 |
| ruskie | how would changing anything there help if the end result is transmited through dbus | 23:44 |
| hrw | not tried yet | 23:45 |
| hrw | messing with launcher now | 23:45 |
| ruskie | contacts -> send dbus signal to com.nokia.modest mailto:email and modest has a listener that handles it | 23:45 |
| hrw | ok | 23:46 |
| ruskie | so it would require I guess someone to modify browser switchboard to handle mailto: stuff | 23:46 |
| hrw | ~curse n900 wifi to drop signal in <1m from AP | 23:46 |
| hrw | ssh desktop->n900 is hard to keep alive | 23:46 |
| ruskie | hmm | 23:47 |
| ruskie | had no probs so far | 23:47 |
| fdv | huh. I've had it running for days | 23:47 |
| fdv | surprisingly stable | 23:47 |
| ruskie | though I do notice that sometimes all connections drop | 23:47 |
| ruskie | 3g/wifi whatever | 23:47 |
| ruskie | and nothing gets established | 23:47 |
| ruskie | until I manually do it | 23:47 |
| fdv | I had that once. reboot fixed it | 23:48 |
| hrw | now I have H-A-M instead of ovi, and claws instead of modest - right on first launcher screen | 23:48 |
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| fdv | anybody know how come a hildon/gtk app turns up with a plain 'linux-gnome-gtk'-look when started from the cli, but with the flashy 'maemo-5-look' when started through the gui? | 23:50 |
| ruskie | fdv, tried launching it with: run-standalone.sh app ? | 23:50 |
| fdv | nope | 23:50 |
| jebba900 | fdv example? | 23:50 |
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| ruskie | though I don't recall having any probs there | 23:51 |
| ruskie | are you the same user? or are you root? | 23:51 |
| ruskie | iirc gtk themes are defined by ~/.gtkrc-2.0 and I would assume that wasn't broken yet | 23:51 |
| fdv | whops. forgot to mention this is in scratchbox | 23:51 |
| jebba900 | i havent noticed it fwiw | 23:51 |
| jebba900 | ah | 23:51 |
| fdv | sorry | 23:51 |
| fdv | did mention it in my head :p | 23:52 |
| ruskie | :) | 23:52 |
| ruskie | we don't read minds | 23:52 |
| jebba900 | use it with run-standalone.sh foo | 23:52 |
| fdv | crap :( | 23:52 |
| fdv | ok | 23:52 |
| fdv | thanks | 23:52 |
| hrw | http://marcin.juszkiewicz.com.pl/download/maemo/Screenshot-20091230-224928.png | 23:52 |
| fdv | I need to fix the dbux core dump.. | 23:52 |
| fdv | I think I'm probably running a pre-release version of scratchbox. is it simple to upgrade? | 23:54 |
| ruskie | apt-get dist-upgrade ? | 23:54 |
| jebba900 | run the final v5 from november or so | 23:54 |
| fdv | yeah, I missed it on the web page when I installed it | 23:54 |
| fdv | ruskie: is it that simple? | 23:54 |
| fdv | cool | 23:54 |
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| ruskie | I would assume so | 23:55 |
| fdv | I'll try | 23:55 |
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