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frals | andre__: confirmed here, also your last comment seems to be true as well | 00:49 |
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andre__ | frals, thanks a lot!! feel free to add a comment with you results | 00:51 |
frals | yeah just did :) | 00:51 |
andre__ | hehe | 00:51 |
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andre__ | frals, whouah, that's an awesome testcase I did not even think of. Good idea :) | 00:52 |
frals | hmm, interesting, disconnected the phone and reconnected it again, and now it wont copy | 00:53 |
andre__ | uh | 00:55 |
andre__ | I wonder whether it's the same for ogg before and after installing "ogg-support" | 00:56 |
frals | right, the time it *did* copy it was using "Nokia Phone Browser"\N900\Data | 00:56 |
frals | PC Suite (or something here) seems to be acting a bit weird, last time I connected over bluetooth, it wouldnt let me browse the N900 straigth from "My Computer" even thought it shows up as a "Portable Device" - this time it does | 01:00 |
andre__ | hmm. can I ask you for a second comment about your experience when you think you've finished playing with it? :) tia | 01:01 |
frals | and when browsing it while its listed as a "Portable Device" it wont copy the file | 01:01 |
frals | yeah | 01:01 |
frals | trying to iron out exactly whats happening here | 01:01 |
frals | guess i spoke to soon on bugzilla, could remove that comment if you want | 01:01 |
andre__ | haha | 01:01 |
andre__ | no, we don't censor (except for leaking confidential stuff, or people spamming and/or insulting) :) | 01:02 |
frals | roger roger | 01:02 |
frals | funny thing is i pressed the "file manager" icon in pc suite both times and the first time i ended up viewing the phone through the "Nokia Phone Browser" and after reconnecting its being browsed as a portable device | 01:03 |
andre__ | HAHA | 01:03 |
frals | appearently, if you press the "file manager" icon in pc suite too early after the phone is reported as being connected, you end up using the "Nokia Phone Browser" instead of exploring it as a portable device | 01:13 |
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frals | posted a second comment now.. conclusion; im gonna make sure i follow the correct steps before commenting next time ;-) also, .jar file copies over just fine | 01:30 |
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andre__ | frals, thanks! | 01:50 |
frals | np, sorry for screwing up with the first comment :P | 01:50 |
andre__ | haha, not at all :) | 01:51 |
andre__ | good night everybody | 01:58 |
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netvandal | hi all | 14:14 |
jebba | hey | 14:48 |
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VDVsx | hey andre__ , how was the bug day ? :) | 16:34 |
andre__ | VDVsx, for me it was definitely fun. of course more and new people would have been cool, but it was a cool start | 16:35 |
* andre__ would also love to hear the opinion of others | 16:35 | |
VDVsx | sorry, I could not attend, my stupid ISP decide to gave a gift of 3 days without internet :( | 16:35 |
VDVsx | *gave me | 16:35 |
andre__ | haha | 16:35 |
VDVsx | not fun :P | 16:36 |
andre__ | yeah, sometimes I'm also suddenly out of internet here. but often it's only for half an hour which I can accept. Small company... | 16:37 |
VDVsx | andre__, yeah, same here, but this time they decide to rebuilt the phone station from scratch, the machines there were very old it seems | 16:39 |
andre__ | uh | 16:44 |
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jebba | andre__: can you clarify if this is a bug or not? I went to "Administer vistas" (Administer views? desktops?) where it gives you your four desktops to click on or off. I thought this would be great so when I gave my fone to my son, I could just enable "his" desktop to lessen the chance of him wreaking havoc with my data. So I unchecked three of the desktops. Then I went back and re-checked the desktops again to re-enable them. But w | 17:14 |
andre__ | known issue. | 17:15 |
andre__ | let me write the rest for you here :-P | 17:15 |
andre__ | "...it did not restore all the widgets I had on those desktops before disabling them"? :-D | 17:15 |
jebba | ya | 17:18 |
jebba | ok thx | 17:18 |
jebba | https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=5741 Status: UNCONFIRMED | 17:22 |
povbot | Bug 5741: "Manage Views": Disabling a view removes all its widgets | 17:22 |
andre__ | hehe | 17:24 |
jebba | ah, you can confirm it by merely voting for it? cool. | 17:26 |
andre__ | 3 votes confirm a report, yes | 17:27 |
jebba | any chance you could give me elevated perms so i can update things like versions and such? (e.g. Version says 41-10 and i could update to 42-11). If not, i'll just bug you ;) | 17:27 |
andre__ | jebba, in general it is highy welcome, however 41-10 and 42-11 is just one week difference, so it's extremely likely that there haven't been much fixes in that time | 17:27 |
andre__ | but sure, let me give you permissions | 17:28 |
jebba | moe@blagblagblag.org | 17:28 |
andre__ | jebba, done. thanks in advance - and the usual disclaimer: Read http://wiki.maemo.org/Bugs:Triage_guide , and if unsure, ask first. | 17:30 |
andre__ | jebba, As written, I think 41-10 -> 42-11 does not make much sense and the noise by bugmail is higher than the value. If you want to, I think that just changing the version field, without a comment, is better | 17:31 |
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bobbyd | hi! | 17:35 |
bobbyd | how do I get involved in this triaging business then? | 17:35 |
andre__ | heja bobbyd | 17:37 |
andre__ | most stuff should be explained here: http://wiki.maemo.org/Bugsquad | 17:38 |
andre__ | have you read the triage guide? | 17:38 |
bobbyd | nope! :) | 17:38 |
bobbyd | I'm also a developer, so I could fix things if that's possible | 17:38 |
bobbyd | I'll read the guide and come back if I've got more questions | 17:39 |
andre__ | ah, cool | 17:40 |
bobbyd | is it possible for me to comtribute to the official maemo distribution, and if so, are there many people doing that? | 17:40 |
andre__ | good topic. | 17:41 |
andre__ | so, Maemo is approx. 80% open source. For the rest, see http://wiki.maemo.org/Why_the_closed_packages | 17:42 |
bobbyd | ok, seems I'm building up a reading list :) | 17:42 |
andre__ | latest public tarballs are in http://repository.maemo.org/pool/fremantle/free/ | 17:42 |
bobbyd | also, what's the best way to find out about the latest news about maemo? Just check talk.maemo.org? | 17:43 |
andre__ | http://planet.maemo.org/ could also be interesting | 17:43 |
bobbyd | cool thanks | 17:43 |
jebba | bobbyd: in general, very open project, so if you've been a free software developer for long, all the usual things are there. There are some closed bits here and there which irritate all, but that's life. | 17:45 |
andre__ | bobbyd, and for code repositories, stuff is slowly moving to gitorious.org - see this thread too: http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=32477 | 17:50 |
bobbyd | cool, thanks guys | 17:50 |
andre__ | (keep in mind that Nokia is slowly moving... and that there's always discussions and different opinions in a company with a big size) | 17:51 |
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bobbyd | is there a channel just for developers, or is that #maemo? | 17:54 |
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andre__ | bobbyd, http://wiki.maemo.org/IRC | 17:59 |
bobbyd | thanks again | 18:00 |
andre__ | no problem | 18:01 |
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jebba | andre__: libical: /usr/lib/debug/usr/lib/libical.so.0.43.0 libical has debug packages in it. I suppose it shouldn't no? | 18:40 |
andre__ | I don't get the question. | 18:41 |
andre__ | what is that output? | 18:41 |
andre__ | and why are there 20 spaces in between? :-D | 18:41 |
jebba | $ dpkg -L libical | grep debug | 18:41 |
jebba | The libical package has debug files in it, which are large and *probably* shouldn't be in there. (often are separate debug packages). I see no mention in zilla | 18:42 |
jebba | libgnome-menu2 as a debug package in it as well (adds 900k to device unncecessarily ) | 18:43 |
jebba | dosfstools has some too, but in debug/sbin | 18:45 |
jebba | cleaning that all out will save 1M off default install | 18:46 |
andre__ | jebba, "dpkg -L libical | grep debug" provides no output here | 18:47 |
jebba | version 1.43-99.3+0m5 ? perhaps you have a newer one? | 18:48 |
andre__ | same with libgnome-menu2 | 18:48 |
andre__ | yeah, probably fixed in the meantime... wait | 18:48 |
andre__ | 1.43-99.4+0m5, newer | 18:49 |
jebba | ok, fixed upstream /me drops | 18:52 |
andre__ | ah | 18:53 |
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