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| arvut | Good morning.. Does the Store app still work for you? I can't reach any of the pages it tries to display and I suspect the service has been shut down :( | 10:13 |
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| arvut | on the N9, running Meego harmattan 1.3 with inception installed | 10:13 |
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| thomasez | arvut: The same day MS buys Nokia.. | 10:21 |
| thomasez | arvut: But it works for me. downloading a way too old Firefox to tst. | 10:22 |
| thomasez | N9, 1.3, no inception. | 10:22 |
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| thomasez | INstalling apps as a madman now, I presume the Store is history before the year has passed. | 10:32 |
| mschlens_ | and no decent replacement on the horizon... | 10:48 |
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| thomasez | mschlens_: well, I am crossing my fingers for Jolla. | 11:16 |
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| mschlens_ | I seriously hope they can pull it off proper. | 11:20 |
| thomasez | Games of bubble, "free" my ass. why does it want to go on Internet after I've burst five lines of bubbls. | 11:21 |
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| juiceme | RzR, what causes problems with encfs home is mounting/unmounting MyDocs partition. | 11:53 |
| juiceme | RzR, also tracker does not like encfs wrapped directories, and I suspect it is to do with a bug in the FUSE version that default PR1.3 kernel has. | 11:54 |
| juiceme | RzR, thanks for reminding me about it, I need to fix fuse and try it again some day :) | 11:55 |
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| CissWit | so, here it is, microsoft bought nokia : http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-23940171 | 12:30 |
| leinir | noooot... the best article BBC has ever written... but then, they're notoriously bad at that whole thing :P | 12:31 |
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| RzR | juiceme, yes | 12:36 |
| RzR | juiceme, I tried to upgrade fuse tools, it's same | 12:36 |
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| Jonne|be | guess my n9 knew about the MS thing all along, and decided to crap out the day before | 15:39 |
| mgedmin | what, yours too??? | 15:44 |
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| mgedmin | mine lost the ability to do 3G three days ago, the ability to browse over wifi two days ago, the ability to turn on yesterday | 15:45 |
| mgedmin | (that's a dramatized version; basically the power button is so worn out it won't register presses, so I can't turn it on/off/lock the screen by using it) | 15:45 |
| mgedmin | (I can turn the n9 on by plugging it to a PC via USB, which makes it boot) | 15:45 |
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| Jonne|be | on mine the /home partition set itself to readonly | 15:47 |
| Jonne|be | i've been told reflashing it would fix it, but i've been trying to back up my files first | 15:48 |
| Jonne|be | right now i can't take pictures any more and my address book and calendar is gone | 15:48 |
| Jonne|be | also skype is broken | 15:49 |
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| Jonne|be | and probably more stuff, never a good idea to have your os trying to write to a ro fs all the time | 15:52 |
| Jonne|be | how the hell did you wear out your power button? | 15:53 |
| rigo | mine works like charm :) | 15:53 |
| Jonne|be | the buttons on the n9 always seemed to be pretty sturdy to me | 15:53 |
| Jonne|be | unlike the little usb lid | 15:53 |
| rigo | and if you have trouble, put yourself on the waiting list ... ;-o | 15:54 |
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| rigo | for the "unlike" I mean ... | 15:54 |
| * Jonne|be hopes it will still work until Jolla stuff is available | 15:55 | |
| Jonne|be | if not it'll probably be nexus 4 and an ubuntu dual boot or something | 15:55 |
| rigo | I had Firefox OS in my hand recently. It is a valid replacement although not looking as nice | 15:58 |
| * rigo is also trying to get a Jolla if the N9 is worn out | 15:59 | |
| thomasez | I can't make my apps in python with FirefoxOS :=) | 15:59 |
| Jonne|be | not sure if i want a web-only OS | 15:59 |
| thomasez | I'm sure I won't. | 16:00 |
| rigo | thomasez: FirefoxOS is webapps and W3C stuff, so python=> HTML+Javascript=>firefox OS | 16:00 |
| Jonne|be | i need offline maps at least, and i don't think web apps can do that | 16:00 |
| thomasez | got my Pepple working with libpebble on the N9. | 16:00 |
| rigo | Jonne|be: it works offline. Note that Jolla will not have maps AFAIK | 16:00 |
| thomasez | no idea if I can do the same on firefox os. | 16:00 |
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| chouchoune | rigo: why wouldn't they have maps ? | 16:14 |
| chouchoune | there's AT LEAST open source Android apps doing maps and navigation using openstreetmaps => compatible with Jolla (downloadable from F-Droid store so no need of Play Store) | 16:15 |
| chouchoune | and I'm sure they will have a maps provider, that would be nonsense if they don't have any | 16:16 |
| chouchoune | at least an openstreetmaps implementation | 16:16 |
| * mgedmin was waiting for Jolla, but since it's not ready, and my N9 is dead, ordered a Nexus 4 today | 16:16 | |
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| Jonne|be | rigo, offline directions too? | 16:32 |
| Jonne|be | ie, can i download a country and look up places offline? | 16:32 |
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| rigo | everybody who has internet can have google maps. The question is offline maps. And this is a specific Nokia feature that nobody else has as Nokia acquired NavTeq some time ago | 17:06 |
| CissWit | https://support.google.com/gmm/answer/2650218?hl=en | 17:07 |
| rigo | I encouraged the Jolla-folks to go to Nokia and ask for offline maps. They said it will be difficult. But this may be different now | 17:07 |
| Jonne|be | openstreetmaps is decent enough, although i have no idea if its data lends itself to use for navigation | 17:08 |
| rigo | I think openstreetmap is great, but nobody cared to develop an offline version so far for mobile phones. | 17:09 |
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| rigo | offline googlemaps would then work with Jolla as Jolla can do android apps. | 17:16 |
| thomasez | I really hope we'll get/keep Nokia Map and drive for Jolla. | 17:17 |
| leinir | there is no "keep" | 17:18 |
| rigo | :) | 17:18 |
| leinir | you seem to still be thinking of jolla as the next version of the nokia n9, when that's a different company ;) | 17:18 |
| thomasez | Nja, Sailfish ain't that long way from Harmattan. | 17:18 |
| marsje | Jonne|be: I do a bit of openstreetmap editing and the information in OSM is quite detailed and could be perfectly used for navigation | 17:18 |
| leinir | entirely irrelevant, it still isn't Nokia :) | 17:18 |
| thomasez | To be honest I've been seeing Jolla as Nokiax exit strategy if the MS thingie failed. | 17:19 |
| leinir | it's not... it /is/ an exit strategy for the engineers, though :) | 17:19 |
| thomasez | But we can wonder what the agreement with MS is. | 17:19 |
| thomasez | we'll see. | 17:20 |
| Morpog_N9_ | i would be ok with a port from harmattan drive to sailfishos | 17:20 |
| Morpog_N9_ | not much effort for here guys | 17:20 |
| Morpog_N9_ | and all old nokia fans would buy it | 17:21 |
| leinir | i'd kind of like the new version more... which is also Qt based, and they've been showing it off in a variety of places... | 17:21 |
| leinir | maps and drive are showing their age | 17:21 |
| Morpog_N9_ | well, that would be fantastic, still i'm ok with old harmattan versions | 17:22 |
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| Jonne|be | marsje, i don't know much about GIS, but i assume you need data like speed limits and road type & driving direction to use it properly for navigation, does osm have this data? | 17:33 |
| Jonne|be | i guess it could be crowdsourced with a waze-type arrangement | 17:33 |
| marsje | Jonne|be: yes, it does, but of course it depends on the location how accurate it is | 17:37 |
| marsje | in some countries it's very accurate and detailed, in others there is almost nothing | 17:37 |
| marsje | if you go to openstreetmap.org, you can see the map, but you can also see the underlying data | 17:40 |
| marsje | e.g. http://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=18/51.20881/4.44761&layers=D | 17:40 |
| marsje | (on the right side press the layer button and check "Map Data") | 17:41 |
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| Jonne|be | you bastard, sending me straight to borgerhout without a warning :p | 17:52 |
| Jonne|be | that is pretty detailed, so yeah, if someone wants to do the work it's totally doable | 17:55 |
| marsje | haha | 18:00 |
| marsje | there is already a routing engine that uses osm data | 18:00 |
| marsje | http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Routing | 18:01 |
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| eavila | amizraa, | 18:33 |
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| Venemo_ | has anyone ever completed the Qt5 port to harmattan? | 18:38 |
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| juiceme | coderus, ping | 21:30 |
| juiceme | coderus, I just updated info on freshly compiled kernel-plus image with ExFAT support on TMO... | 21:31 |
| juiceme | coderus, see post http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=1371757#post1371757 | 21:31 |
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