IRC log of #harmattan for Monday, 2013-08-26

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pawkyJonni: Will a reflash reset the phone lock code?08:46
pawkyJonni: maybe you already kind of answered that question earlier...08:46
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bef0rd_i think so, but you need to use the erase-user-data parameter08:51
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Jonnipawky: only if you add --erase-user-data=secure10:30
rigosince PR.1.3 the GPS can crash. It will never find a satellite. Device has to be rebooted to get navigation to work again. Is this known? Or only me?10:34
pawkyis it the gps or the nav software you mean?10:35
mgedminI was once in the middle of the mountains in Crete, and GPS suddenly stopped working10:36
mgedminthankfully restarting Drive fixed it10:36
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rigopawky: the navigation software starts normally and looks for GPS, but does not get feedback10:38
rigoso it waits forever for the GPS position. May be the software or the GPS driver. I don't know. Happens to maps and drive software10:39
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pawkyass mentioned by mgedmin, it can lock itself needing some sort of restart. Many times its just taking a looooooong time to find a signal, especially if not used for a while.10:40
pawkyI am not an expert in GPS positioning, but as far as i know it has something to do with either getting whatever current GPS position map based upon the location you are at, through 3g, or it has to figure it out all by itself by waiting for signals...10:42
pawkythe latter takes forever..10:42
pawkyI have the Nokia LD-1W, (bluetooth GPS), and if not using it for a while it will take a minute or two before it can lock itself to a signal10:44
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pawkyrigo: having used 1.3 for quite a while i cannot say I personally have noticed any differences in its behaviour regarding GPS and the surrounding software, compared to the earlier versions.10:47
rigoI have another theory. If you're on a network, it never does that. It does only in offline mode10:47
rigomaybe it wants to send the position to a nokia server. If online, the positioning is swift10:47
pawkyrigo:no... its all about this list...10:52
pawkyif a network is avaiable it will speed up the process by getting the list of satellite positions through the net, if you are offline it has to figure it out manually, and this will take time10:53
rigook, why does rebooting the device then speed up the process from 5min to 90 seconds?10:54
rigos/5min/endless/10:54
infobotrigo meant: ok, why does rebooting the device then speed up the process from endless to 90 seconds?10:54
pawkycould it be, it will try whatever it has in its cach first?, but when rebooting it clears it?10:55
pawkyflying to another country will make it take forever for a first lock. after that it goes much quicker.10:56
rigoI had it work flawlessly in California and taking ages in France10:57
pawkyill rest my case :-)10:57
rigo:)10:57
pawkythus, its more about if it can 'receive' the list using this AGPS stuff, it will go quicker. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assisted_GPS10:58
rigothe other thing was last time (only since 1.3) that it was trying to find the route and re-calculating all the time. Wanted absolutely to be online but only did non-sense when I allowed it (even in data roaming, ouch)10:59
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rigorebooting fixed it10:59
pawkyI do remember some similar bug, but I believe that was either in the first release, or the Nokia N900....10:59
pawkyhmm... i believe you could find info about it on the forum at maemo.org11:00
rigopawky: good explanation that is (aGPS page)11:01
pawky(the old bug that is..)11:01
rigoMerci!11:02
pawkyyou are welcome :-)11:02
rigoah, KDE 4.11 installed.... re-log, cu11:03
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Morpog_N9gps gets weird with some chargers, try without12:22
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