IRC log of #harmattan for Tuesday, 2013-05-21

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ZogG_laptopfmunozs: so what you would say?00:30
fmunozsi'd say00:30
fmunozsunfortunately they did not release enough specs for me to think about preordering it.. no ram, not sure what kind of dualcore cpu, gpu, no information about battery life..00:32
ZogG_laptopdo you think your country can preorder? :)00:32
fmunozsalso not sure about what does 4G means, will it be supported in my country?00:32
ZogG_laptopwhat about screen :)00:32
fmunozsseems to be ok a little big but I've big hands :P00:32
ZogG_laptopthe funny thing when i say something everyone says i'm bad and blaming me for not beliving :)00:33
fmunozsI feel the Z10 feels big (4,2) but I'm getting used to it00:33
ZogG_laptopi don't have z10 :(00:33
ZogG_laptopblackberry dev not answering00:33
fmunozsjust wait :P00:34
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ZogG_laptopwait more?00:35
fmunozsand I'm not sure I like the way the back half looks .. it could have had an smoot look instead of looking like two pieces but that's just me00:35
ZogG_laptopnext the specs to reveal would be screen is from glass and phone is from plastic :)00:35
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fmunozsshould have been glass everywhere00:36
fmunozsor gold00:36
ZogG_laptopor diamondillium00:39
ZogG_laptopif you are futurama fan00:39
fmunozshope there is an image soon for the n9/n950 so I can port and try my apps00:40
fmunozsotherwise I won't feel like porting something to an OS that I can't use :)00:40
ZogG_laptopwhat i really on't like is transperent everywhere00:40
ZogG_laptopfmunozs: there would be no images at least till device is out00:41
ZogG_laptopyou can use nemo00:41
fmunozsyou could set a black wallpaper, fixed :p00:41
fmunozsnemo doesn't have the sailfish qml components afaik00:41
fmunozsI could be wrong :P00:41
ZogG_laptopi dunno00:47
ZogG_laptopask them at enmo or jolla chans00:48
fmunozsi'll see later00:49
ZogG_laptopno you wont00:53
tehdelysometimes i think jolla is a big troll00:54
tehdelythe slow drip-feed of information about their actual device is excruciating00:54
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ZogG_laptoptehdely: same here00:56
ZogG_laptopand everytime i tell it's not the way to do in kinda geek community world00:56
ZogG_laptopbut i get punched and blamed :(00:57
fmunozsyou deserve it01:03
fmunozsbut yeah.. knowing the kind of market they could be more technical about hw information01:04
M4rtinKwhat is the licence for the Silica components anyway ?01:04
M4rtinKI think some form of BSD01:04
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M4rtinKso someone might be just able to package Silica for Nemo01:04
M4rtinKwell, even for Harmattan :)01:04
fmunozsyea, it's going to be opensource not sure where is the repo for it01:05
M4rtinKshouldnt be that difficult - I've already used HArmattan Qt Components on BB10 and Android :D01:05
fmunozsand it's qt 4.x I think01:15
fmunozs:/ too much bezel ..01:15
M4rtinKwell, we compared it and it is not that different from say the Z1001:21
M4rtinKyou need at least some bezel for the speaker01:21
M4rtinKalso some under the screen so that your fingers don't shield the screen when holding it01:22
M4rtinKbut yeah, at least the lower bezel could be thinner01:22
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Dante_JGreetings, I'm experiencing some denial of service behaviour on my N9. It started a few days ago03:27
Dante_JThe swipe of normal screens becomes unavailable when a USB cable is plugged in - even it it's just the power adapter.03:28
Dante_JI've run top to see if there are any runaway processes, but I can see any. Proc usage seems normal.03:28
Dante_Jbut the swipe becomes unresponsive - I cannot tap or swipe the lock screen away until I remove the usb cable attached.03:29
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Dante_JThis screen unresponsiveness also makes using either mass storage or sync unavailable. While the options are displayed, the unresponsiveness make it impossible to select any of the options03:30
Dante_JVery frustrating.03:30
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Dante_JGreetings, apologies my absence after asking a question.04:17
Dante_JAnyone awake in this channel?04:17
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thedead1440Dante_J: you may simply be using a usb cable that's faulty or a power adapter of a higher voltage hence screen interactivity is unavailable to you06:34
thedead1440Try replacing either of the above ;)06:34
thedead1440Also you have the option to set the default behaviour when a USB cable is connected so set that before connecting your cable if its really urgent to connect it to mass storage or sync&connect06:35
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DocScrutinizer05thedead1440: there's a known problem with touchscreen/digitizer that is related to RF injected by crappy USB charger switching PSU. I several times seen digitizer going completely apeshit, with phantom clicks or rejecting each input or mangling it to something useless12:37
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DocScrutinizer05using a USB cable with ferrite bead might help12:38
DocScrutinizer05using decent chargers for sure helps, this phenomenon only seems to happen with cheap knockoff chargers12:39
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DocScrutinizer05also *holding* the N9 body with your other hand (to 'close the circuit') seems mandatory for reliable digitizer operation12:41
rikaneeDocScrutinizer05: cheap USB chargers drive other devices crazy too, although the floating-touch effect is kind-of-cool.12:44
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thedead1440DocScrutinizer05: agreed20:47
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