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| jalyst | is talk.maemo.org down atm? It's no longer allowing me to login... | 09:29 |
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| jalyst | Also, is there a hildonfoundation channel? | 09:30 |
| ladoga | jalyst: i just logged in fine | 09:33 |
| dm8tbr | jalyst: try #maemo ? | 09:33 |
| jalyst | bizarre, im no longer able to log in for some reason…. :-/ | 09:34 |
| thedead1440 | jalyst try logging in via forums.internettablettalk.com | 09:44 |
| jalyst | no go, 4 out of 5 login attempts now failed... | 09:45 |
| thedead1440 | ok use the ip directly | 09:45 |
| thedead1440 | http://188.117.59.209/ | 09:45 |
| jalyst | all good, seems to be a bug with the pwd manager/form filler I'm using! | 09:53 |
| thedead1440 | Hurrian: ping | 10:01 |
| Hurrian | thedead1440: pong | 10:01 |
| thedead1440 | Hurrian: any progress with the tar from n950 | 10:02 |
| thedead1440 | I read you had an issue with booting it up; so does it mean no go? | 10:02 |
| Hurrian | it seems that when launching /sbin/init, there's some sort of component it depends on, which is unfulfilled, and kicks the WDT immediately | 10:02 |
| thedead1440 | watchdog can't be disabled before trying it on? | 10:03 |
| Hurrian | Tried it with WD off using flasher --enable-rd-mode, and this time it hung | 10:03 |
| Hurrian | I tried duplicating the functions done by Dali's preinit, still a no-go. | 10:03 |
| Hurrian | Note that I tried it with the PR1.3 Openmode kernel, which may have changed significantly from the Dali's really old kernel. | 10:04 |
| thedead1440 | ah true | 10:04 |
| thedead1440 | any idea what does /var/lib/aegis/.bb5-emu.xml do? The code is for? From what i gather it seems to be an unlocking code; is that all that it is? | 10:04 |
| Hurrian | hmm, lemme take a look at it | 10:05 |
| Hurrian | well, I guess it's simply what it says on the tin | 10:06 |
| Hurrian | BB5 emulator, probably for testing phone functions | 10:06 |
| Hurrian | and probably needed a matching emulator kernel module | 10:07 |
| thedead1440 | ah | 10:07 |
| Hurrian | on an unrelated note, the Android source tree is the most convoluted piece of **** I've seen | 10:09 |
| thedead1440 | :D | 10:10 |
| Hurrian | all the managed names are horribly undescriptive | 10:10 |
| thedead1440 | Let's say Android requires one to be very dedicated :D | 10:10 |
| Hurrian | see, I was building 4.2.1 ROMs for my tablet, and found that Google has forced the shoddy phablet UI on all tablet users | 10:10 |
| Hurrian | the solution: Make SystemUI crash on pressing certain UI elements on an older Android version (4.1.2), so I would be able to figure out the location in the source | 10:11 |
| thedead1440 | the fsck! | 10:11 |
| Hurrian | Now knowing the location in the source, it was simply a matter of bypassing ifs to return certain true values | 10:12 |
| thedead1440 | ah | 10:12 |
| thedead1440 | building for which tablet; if I may ask? | 10:12 |
| Hurrian | tl;dr true Tablet UI was all still there, Google just felt like being shitty and not allowing us to choose it using a build system macro like USE_TABLET_UI := true | 10:13 |
| Hurrian | thedead1440: Galaxy Tab 8.9 (p5), a shrunken down brother to the Galaxy Tab 10.1 (p4) | 10:13 |
| thedead1440 | ah the 8.9 | 10:13 |
| Hurrian | I think the appropriate reaction, in certain Internet image boards, would be "Google pls" | 10:13 |
| thedead1440 | haha | 10:14 |
| Hurrian | also, the default toolchain included with the Android source, for lack of a better word, blows. | 10:15 |
| thedead1440 | That's what rankles me with Android always; it always has to be a Google-led effort... Only CM seem to be doing very well but then they have unofficial Google support | 10:15 |
| thedead1440 | hehe | 10:15 |
| Hurrian | arm-linux-*, version 4.4 | 10:15 |
| Hurrian | they announced they were moving to gcc 4.6 on 4.0's launch | 10:15 |
| Hurrian | And here we are at 4.2, still using the old toolchain. | 10:16 |
| thedead1440 | but they get away with it | 10:16 |
| Hurrian | Everybody knows it blows, even the major Android handset OEMs build with Codesourcery GCC 4.6, and most ROM/Kernel builders use Linaro 4.7.1 | 10:17 |
| thedead1440 | :D | 10:17 |
| Hurrian | Not to mention that newer kernels, such as in the 3.5 series and up have stricter aliasing and guards, and break when building against GCC 4.4 | 10:18 |
| Hurrian | So one way or another, you're going to be forced to somehow obtain a new toolchain | 10:19 |
| thedead1440 | its going in circles :D | 10:19 |
| Hurrian | Which isn't easy, as the toolchain path is redefined multiple times in the build scripts | 10:20 |
| thedead1440 | what a pita | 10:20 |
| thedead1440 | ROM building also can cause strange issues; on my S2 yesterday i was using CM's nightlies and for some reason sending an image via Whatsapp sends a distorted and mangled image to the recipent | 10:21 |
| thedead1440 | thought I must have messed something up but then its a known issue on the nightly i was using | 10:22 |
| Hurrian | Blame Samsung for that, I've been having funky issues ever since Codeworkx made the switch to 3.0 kernel series | 10:22 |
| thedead1440 | I've kinda decided more or less to use the leaked JB-rom for S3 adapted to the S2 | 10:22 |
| thedead1440 | touchwiz takes flak but that ROM is the first time i've found touchwiz useful | 10:23 |
| Hurrian | The problem is that many GB-era HAL modules and drivers are still being used since Samsung renamed HAL functions to TW-specific ones in their ICS | 10:23 |
| thedead1440 | my S2 is my third phone; for the apps I ever need and making some calls every now and then so i can live with touchwiz | 10:23 |
| thedead1440 | ah no wonder; Samsung seem to have stuck alot of things on GB-era things | 10:24 |
| Hurrian | no, Samsung was being a dick by renaming calls without any technical reason - e.g. do_shit() became sec_do_shit() | 10:24 |
| thedead1440 | idiots | 10:25 |
| Hurrian | It would be massively impractical to patch the /entire/ code base to call sec_*, samsung_* etc. functions, so Codeworkx simply made shims for GB libs to work on ICS and above | 10:25 |
| thedead1440 | that's a recipe for disaster :D | 10:26 |
| Hurrian | And speaking of Touchwiz - the official ICS ROM for my tablet leaves ~4MB on the /system partition after installation, whereas CM10.1 leaves ~300MB. | 10:27 |
| Hurrian | (With GAPPS installed!) | 10:27 |
| thedead1440 | haha | 10:27 |
| thedead1440 | the one i use is pretty smooth; must be due to the ROM-dev having adapted it to S2 hence giving good system space as well as bringing over useful touches | 10:28 |
| thedead1440 | Receiving a notification on the status bar; i have the button there itself to call the contact or reply to the message or to forward; good way to minimize processes | 10:28 |
| Hurrian | Oh, and the last biggest problem I had today: "repo" choking on the git being updated too fast/changes pulled and not synced properly for some reason | 10:29 |
| thedead1440 | :p | 10:29 |
| thedead1440 | haha | 10:29 |
| Hurrian | The /entire/ 12GB source tree was spoilt. | 10:29 |
| thedead1440 | this somehow doesn't seem to every be able to be improved by Google | 10:29 |
| Hurrian | Having a maximum download speed of 200KB/s, I was not happy. | 10:30 |
| thedead1440 | hehe | 10:30 |
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| HtheB | Jonni, u there? | 15:20 |
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| ladoga | where can i safely execute commands at startup on non-openmode device? what i have here is n9 with inception ...in openmode i would probably just edit /etc/init.d/rcS and add those commands there. | 19:44 |
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| ladoga | nevermind | 19:52 |
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