| SpeedEvil | probably | 00:01 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | IOW for example commenting on a disassembler listing, no matter how inspired the comment, can't break any NDA. | 00:01 |
| SpeedEvil | it may if you are using imparting aquired under the NDA | 00:02 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | general advice like "most promising approach would be to protocol and analyze the USB traffic" also can't be illegal | 00:03 |
| SpeedEvil | depending on the terms | 00:04 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | generally nope, any conclusion I utter is my *own* conclusion, no matter on which experience it's based | 00:05 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | no contractor can ask other contractor to roll back own expertise and forget what he learned during some period of his professional life. You may be obliged to not disclose *facts* (as in data), but your expertise that's leading to conclusions and notions can't get deprived or disowned from you, no matter how you acquired it | 00:07 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | that's why some contracts forbid employment with a direct competitior for a period of 6 months to max 2 years after current contract ends. But that's about maximm they can do about that | 00:09 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | and those clauses are included to contratcs particularly because they can't forbid you usuing your knowledge you acquired during work for them | 00:11 |
| SpeedEvil | hmm | 00:11 |
| SpeedEvil | I shouldn't comment on stuff I have marginal knowledge of when half asleep :-) | 00:11 |
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| ZogG_laptop | DocScrutinizer05: not in mood today ? :P | 00:12 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | mood? | 00:12 |
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| ZogG_laptop | DocScrutinizer05: oh i forgot u are the robot | 00:13 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | sorry, you lost me | 00:13 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | nevertheless I assume it's been a joke, so: hahaha | 00:13 |
| ZogG_laptop | sup? | 00:14 |
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| pa | ZogG_laptop, i dont know wtf with alarms either | 00:20 |
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| ZogG_laptop | pa: u have it too? | 00:22 |
| pa | and why it started now to delete them | 00:22 |
| pa | yes | 00:22 |
| pa | they disappear | 00:22 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | simple example: when for some project we [company/team] evaluate which of md5sum or sha-nnn is more safe, or less cpu demanding, nobody can forbid me using this knowledge later on in any context. I mustn't disclose what were the exact results of those evaluations the team did, like in % or iterations needed to break stuff, but a statement like "use SHA, I know it's more safe" is not liable | 00:22 |
| pa | but mails still sync | 00:22 |
| pa | MfE mails/Google Mails | 00:22 |
| pa | MfE has a little more trouble to do so, tho | 00:22 |
| ZogG_laptop | DocScrutinizer05: we got your point. but you can agree that people ca ndisagree with you | 00:23 |
| pa | anyway, i believe that some anonymous insider info about harmattan would be good to have, especially now that the project has been terminated | 00:24 |
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| pa | i would expect these info to leak somehow | 00:24 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | ZogG_laptop: I'm not interested in anybody disagreeing with me or not. If you got a conflicting point of view, try to explain it. If you're bored to hear about the topic, put me on ignore or shout "OT". Don't teach me about life and that there might be people that disagree with me, since when there were none I wouldn't have to write a single word | 00:36 |
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| ZogG_laptop | DocScrutinizer05: i'll just quote you "Don't teach me about life" | 00:40 |
| ZogG_laptop | you exactly doing it right now and as i disagreed you tell me not to teach you? | 00:40 |
| ZogG_laptop | it's not always about proving something | 00:41 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | what's your damn point, except pissing at my leg? | 00:42 |
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| ZogG_laptop | DocScrutinizer05: nothing i just wanted to stop flame here but you took it too serious | 00:44 |
| ZogG_laptop | i'm too tired and depressed right now to fight and prove something :P | 00:44 |
| ZogG_laptop | so again - sup, man? | 00:44 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | okay, you just made it on my ignore list (again) | 00:45 |
| ZogG_laptop | damn | 00:48 |
| ZogG_laptop | what did i say wrong | 00:48 |
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| ZogG_laptop | why people just hate each other for no reason | 00:48 |
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| itsnotabigtruck | does anyone know of any sort of cell diagnostic programs for harmattan | 01:09 |
| itsnotabigtruck | could really use something like that right now with my downlink being fubar (but only at some locations) | 01:10 |
| itsnotabigtruck | or some way to make CSD (or whatever) produce profuse amounts of log output | 01:10 |
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| itsnotabigtruck | also, glad to see the same people getting into the same ridiculous tiffs :/ | 01:16 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | <ZogG_laptop> DocScrutinizer05: we got your point [== stop boring *us* with your shit]. but you can agree that people ca ndisagree with you [== you're a real moron, and I let you know by telling you a total banality that nevertheless implies you didn't see or knew about it] <what's your point...> <ZogG_laptop> DocScrutinizer05: nothing [! ???] i just wanted to stop flame here [what friggin flame?] but you took it too serious [ | 01:50 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | sure, I take it too serious when somebody tries to stop me from something I'm not even aware I did, and he does so by absolutely inappropriate means even if the initial assumption about there being any 'flame' was correct] | 01:50 |
| ZogG_laptop | DocScrutinizer05: good night man :* | 02:12 |
| ZogG_laptop | itsnotabigtruck: hey and bey :P | 02:12 |
| ZogG_laptop | itsnotabigtruck: ping me when u have new jabber. would like to stay in touch with you | 02:13 |
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| RzR | http://www.robertocolistete.net//MaemoMeeGo/SDK/arm-public-sdk-rootstrap.tgz | 02:38 |
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| DJKillcrazy | Is there a code to tell a browser to load the entire .jpg file and read the EXIF orientation tag before displaying a directly viewed file? | 07:34 |
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| pa | morning | 09:38 |
| pa | question | 09:38 |
| pa | how do i build qtmobility for harmattan using madde? | 09:38 |
| pa | any instruction anywhere? | 09:38 |
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| pa | thedead1440, do you work for jolla, by the way? :) | 14:55 |
| thedead1440 | pa: i am a regular person, not working for any of these companies; why do you ask? | 14:55 |
| pa | just wondering | 14:55 |
| thedead1440 | any specific reason? :p | 14:56 |
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| pa | hm.. probably some wrong connection i made with something i heared some time ago | 14:56 |
| pa | :) | 14:57 |
| thedead1440 | maybe you mixed me up with some one else :D | 14:57 |
| pa | heh probably | 14:57 |
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| MohammadAG | harmattan-dev.nokia.com down? | 16:44 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | yel | 16:47 |
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| Sfiet_Konstantin | MohammadAG: yes | 16:47 |
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| MohammadAG | oh nice, how do I get to documentation? | 16:48 |
| * MohammadAG waits for "you don't" | 16:48 | |
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| Sfiet_Konstantin | there is a qch somewhere | 16:51 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | you can download it from SDK update | 16:51 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | What is worse is "where do you get the firmware" | 16:52 |
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| thp | Jaffa_: no more mwkn? | 17:07 |
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| GeneralAntilles | thp, it's coming. Currently bottlenecked on me. | 17:57 |
| Jaffa_ | thp: One should be coming today | 17:58 |
| Jaffa_ | thp: News has been slow recently, but GeneralAntilles has been keeping it going | 17:58 |
| GeneralAntilles | (mostly) | 17:58 |
| GeneralAntilles | (I'm much lazier than Jaffa_ is) | 17:58 |
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| Jaffa | Not possible | 17:58 |
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| GeneralAntilles | Gotta go to the grocery store, but will finish up when I get back. | 17:59 |
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| thp | Jaffa, GeneralAntilles: thanks to both of you for still working on it :) | 18:39 |
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| GeneralAntilles | Jaffa, it should be ready to go. | 19:30 |
| GeneralAntilles | Jolla story might need a quick proof. | 19:30 |
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| Jaffa | GeneralAntilles: Cool | 19:34 |
| Jaffa | GeneralAntilles: BTW, do we know why some years are skipped out in that Jolla video? | 19:35 |
| GeneralAntilles | No idea | 19:35 |
| Jaffa | Do some of the years correspond to Maemo device releases? | 19:35 |
| GeneralAntilles | Dunno what the start year means either. | 19:35 |
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| Jaffa | GeneralAntilles: Tweaked. Looks excellent, thanks | 19:37 |
| GeneralAntilles | Hooray | 19:37 |
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| bef0rd | Jaffa: hey, I've seen on your blog you are getting into bb1, do you think its worth to get a playbook for bb10 dev? | 19:43 |
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| RzR | khertan, hi | 20:51 |
| RzR | khertan, wp8 + qt | 20:51 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | RzR and khertan, I think that about that, I will wait that digia support Windows 8 | 20:53 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | and all these metro specific stuff | 20:53 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | and check if the ANGLE project is really good enough | 20:53 |
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