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| taneli | how do i get gps coordinates in python? | 10:40 | 
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| gry | taneli: https://github.com/jkingok/harmattan-pygeta/blob/master/qml/MainPage.qml appears to use QtMobility.location 1.2 | 10:44 | 
| taneli | that's not python ... ? | 10:45 | 
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| gry | sorry | 10:50 | 
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| taneli | yeah, i guess it is not possible | 10:51 | 
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| gry | I am looking at this one, it looks more like python https://qt.gitorious.org/pyside/pyside-examples/blobs/HEAD/mobility/location/showcoordinates/showcoordinates.py | 10:53 | 
| gry | http://wiki.meego.com/Python/Harmattan/Getting_started mentions some sort of qtmobility bindings that can be installed | 10:53 | 
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| taneli | the showcoordinates.py is something i tried earlier, it just dies with a org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.AccessDenied even when run as root | 10:55 | 
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| gry | taneli: what is the full error? | 11:04 | 
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| taneli | DBus error: org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.AccessDenied Rejected send message, 2 matched rules; type="method_call", sender=":1.89" (uid=0 pid=2450 comm="python ") interface="com.nokia.positioningd.client" member="registerListener" error name="(unset)" request_reply=0 destination="com.nokia.positioningd.client" (uid=29999 pid=1182 comm="/usr/bin/positioningd ")) | 11:08 | 
| taneli | if i didn't make typoes | 11:08 | 
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| taneli | i think the message was about the same without devel-su | 11:12 | 
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| taneli | i believe it is not possible to read gps coordinates from python, or from the command line | 11:15 | 
| taneli | it's a pity | 11:15 | 
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| Sfiet_Konstantin | bonjour | 12:12 | 
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| Sfiet_Konstantin | woops sorry, wrong chan | 12:12 | 
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| taneli | oooh, i installed inception and now it works | 12:19 | 
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| djszapiN9 | Sfiet_Konstantin, LOLZ | 12:51 | 
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| clau | does anybody know if pr1.3 fixes the wifi stability issues when connecting to certain ap's ? | 20:48 | 
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| jonni | clau: well atleast it will work better than pr1.2, but it cant do magic if AP is just having software and&or hardware problems :). Usually it helps when you replace shitty AP with a decent one. | 22:00 | 
| jonni | (and ofcourse you have your bluetooth disabled) | 22:00 | 
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| jonni | as there is no software fix for the fact that bt and wifi uses the same antenna. | 22:02 | 
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| djszapiN9 | jonni, did you become the CTO already? :) | 22:05 | 
| SpeedEvil | s/antenna/frequency/ | 22:05 | 
| bluefox | well, wifi can run at 5ghz instead of 2.4 like bluetooth, so the frequency bit isn't necessarily true | 22:07 | 
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| jonni | frequency is not the probem, botleneck is the antenna | 22:13 | 
| SpeedEvil | two signals at a different frequency can share an antenna | 22:13 | 
| jonni | but they dont as the chip limits it, when bt is transmitting, wlan is blocked and vice versa. | 22:14 | 
| SpeedEvil | indeed | 22:14 | 
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| bluefox | i presume there's no easy (or possibly any) way to obtain older versions of packages from the N9 repository? | 22:15 | 
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| jonni | bluefox: apt-get supports getting different versions just fine, just like standard linux, so you can do apt-get install package=version | 22:17 | 
| jonni | but ofcourse if your repoes dont have the older versions then no :) | 22:18 | 
| bluefox | well, these would be the official nokia ones | 22:18 | 
| bluefox | shame they don't have directory listing on to make browsing them easy | 22:18 | 
| jonni | should work just fine if you have added all pr repoes to your apt sources list | 22:19 | 
| jonni | ofcourse most packages have version number depencies, so you will not able to downgrade system packages :) | 22:19 | 
| bluefox | oh? i thought they just had different directories for the different regional variants | 22:19 | 
| bluefox | i'm actually having the opposite issue | 22:20 | 
| bluefox | i can't upgrade system packages and the package in question (skype) relies on having slightly newer libraries installed | 22:20 | 
| jonni | I mean if you have added pr1.0 & pr1.1 and pr1.2 and pr1.3 repoes, then you have atleast 4 different versions of packages that you can download | 22:20 | 
| jonni | and the question is why cant you upgrade system packages | 22:21 | 
| bluefox | aegis won't let me...though i guess inception would let me get around that? excuse my lack of experience with it, but i have yet to toy with it | 22:22 | 
| bluefox | should also mention this is on an N950, not an N9 if that matters at all | 22:22 | 
| jonni | so basicly you have screwed some system package with inception and you dont know how to rename package to be com.nokia.maemo owner anymore? | 22:22 | 
| bluefox | no, i haven't used inception at all | 22:23 | 
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| jonni | doesnt really matter, most people just havent installed N950 PR1.3 repo urls to sources.list, as most people still use pr1.2 | 22:23 | 
| clau | jonni, this is a wifi ap at work, so there's no luck replacing it. | 22:23 | 
| clau | in fact there are several, and all exhibit same behavior | 22:24 | 
| bluefox | well, the package i'm trying to install is skype, so it isn't in the N950 repos | 22:24 | 
| jonni | bluefox: skype works just fine on pr1.3 N950. | 22:24 | 
| clau | disabling the power saving by using n9tweak fixes it, but it also eats more battery | 22:24 | 
| clau | and gets warm fast | 22:25 | 
| jonni | ofcourse if your trying to install it to pr1.2 n950 it will have version conflicts | 22:25 | 
| bluefox | yes, i'm still on pr1.2 | 22:25 | 
| bluefox | i can force it with dpkg and it works just fine | 22:25 | 
| bluefox | but then that breaks apt since it complains about it every time to try to download anything through it (including the store since that uses apt, doesn't it?) | 22:26 | 
| clau | can I somehow force the wifi to stay out of n ? | 22:26 | 
| clau | maybe this will work :| | 22:26 | 
| jonni | bluefox: you can ofcourse just extract/ar the skype package, edit depends file to allow pr1.2 versions, and generate deb file and use some exploit to install it as nokia signed package, problem solved :) | 22:27 | 
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| djszapiN9 | jonni so how is stuff | 22:29 | 
| bluefox | alright, thanks for the help...if i fail at that i can always give pr1.3 a go | 22:29 | 
| jonni | djszapiN9: stuff has been busy lately, but quite fun | 22:31 | 
| jonni | I've also resurrected my 3D CAD drawing skills, as I've started to draw my future house ;-) | 22:37 | 
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| djszapiN9 | jonni, when drunk only, right? :) | 22:42 | 
| jonni | heh, or when my wife forces me to :) | 22:42 | 
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| jonni | 'whats that drawing there, extra room?' - 'It's called the Man Cave' :) | 22:44 | 
| Pali | jonni, do you know how phoenix SW working maemo/meego devices? | 22:44 | 
| Pali | phoenix has some support for calibrating... it can write to CAL partition? | 22:45 | 
| jonni | Pali: well kinda yes, I've used phoenix to flash maemo/meego devices. But I'm more familiar with flasher. | 22:45 | 
| Pali | jonni, I'm asking because I rewritten 0xFFFF (open source flasher) | 22:46 | 
| jonni | Pali: well yes phoenix can write to cal partition (but it requires that your have not triggered the open mode). When you have locked the cal, even phoenix cant write there. | 22:46 | 
| jonni | writing to cal is much easier with flasher though, but same rule applies there, open mode must not be triggered :) | 22:46 | 
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| Pali | flasher can write only R&D mode and hw revision | 22:47 | 
| djszapiN9 | jonni, what is your role? | 22:48 | 
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| Pali | it is also possible to write any value to CAL by flasher? | 22:48 | 
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| Pali | jonni, do you know also how flashing on N900 working? | 22:50 | 
| jonni | Pali: yes for the public flasher, but internal flasher has write and read CAL commandline parameters ;) | 22:50 | 
| Pali | it is implemented in NOLO? or internal flasher sending some secrect signed non public image which can CAL support? | 22:52 | 
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| Pali | I see that for some operations flasher calling directly NOLO functions and for some it sending ape-algo image which implement other flasher operations... | 22:53 | 
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| djszapiN9 | jonni, oh design engineer | 22:54 | 
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| tom_ | I am messing with /usr/share/grob/url_history.db to remove the default nokia bookmarks. Is it possible to change the threshold at which a site can enter the top-sites list (right now it seems to be about 6 visits). And is there a maximum limit to the number of top-sites on the list? | 23:16 | 
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