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| marcellus_ | hi. does harmattan have some file manager, like dolphin or nautilus which is capable to tarnsfer files trhough bluetooth? I already know file box and QAD FREE edition | 15:30 |
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| ZogG_laptop | than use ilebox | 15:31 |
| ZogG_laptop | filebox | 15:31 |
| ZogG_laptop | it can transfer files | 15:31 |
| marcellus_ | really? | 15:37 |
| marcellus_ | it does not seem to be transferring files for me | 15:37 |
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| ZogG_laptop | marcellus_: where you tied to | 16:00 |
| ZogG_laptop | it failed over bluetooth but i think it's not a app problem | 16:00 |
| marcellus_ | for example; I go to "documents" or "pictures", I select them and all option am able to see are, clipboard, bookmarks, search, ceate new folder, open terminal or delete | 16:01 |
| ZogG_laptop | i have share :) | 16:02 |
| ZogG_laptop | tyr to move file somewhere first | 16:02 |
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| marcellus_ | that's the problem. I do not have the option to move or to share the file... | 16:07 |
| ZogG_laptop | on long press? | 16:07 |
| marcellus_ | maybe I should re-install the filebox | 16:07 |
| marcellus_ | OK! I did not try the long press! | 16:08 |
| marcellus_ | Now I see it! Thanks a lot!! | 16:08 |
| ZogG_laptop | that's the context menu for most apps and system mostly :P | 16:09 |
| marcellus_ | I guess the icons on the bottom just got me confused. ;) | 16:10 |
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| freemangordon | arcean: WTF is smartsearch and how to get rid of that piece of crap? Or at least how to prevent it from being the top CPU user. n950 is that. | 19:45 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | freemangordon: chmod -x /usr/bin/smartsearch | 19:46 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | it is a crawler for metadata | 19:46 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | and data | 19:46 |
| freemangordon | Sfiet_Konstantin: and why is that needed? is that Maemo5 trackerd equivalent? | 19:47 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | I think | 19:47 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | oh maybe not | 19:47 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | it might only be used for the "search" app in Harmattan | 19:47 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | disable it if you want | 19:47 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | won't hurt | 19:47 |
| freemangordon | what functionality will be lost? | 19:47 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | dunno since I never had this problem | 19:48 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | but you really don't loose a lot | 19:48 |
| freemangordon | ok | 19:48 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | maybe search will not work in search app | 19:48 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | but you will still be able to get sms and co | 19:48 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | since it is not smartsearch's domain | 19:49 |
| freemangordon | ok, thanks | 19:49 |
| arcean | for sure you lose the ability to use the 'Search' application | 19:49 |
| arcean | and probably also share dialog functionality | 19:50 |
| ZogG_laptop | how is share related? | 19:52 |
| arcean | heh, I meant upload dialog | 19:54 |
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| freemangordon | arcean: realy? that is bad | 19:56 |
| freemangordon | arcean: upload dialog? | 19:58 |
| arcean | freemangordon: yes, the one from the stock web browser | 19:58 |
| arcean | freemangordon: you are on 1.3 aren't you? | 19:59 |
| freemangordon | no, 1.2 | 19:59 |
| freemangordon | is that fixed in 1.3? | 19:59 |
| arcean | the upload dialog is one of the 1.3 features | 19:59 |
| freemangordon | aah, ok :D | 19:59 |
| arcean | :P | 19:59 |
| ZogG_laptop | arcean: btw you rated my app wrong on apps4meego :P | 20:09 |
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| ZogG_laptop | you left good comment | 20:09 |
| ZogG_laptop | but you forgot to mark it stable on vote :P | 20:09 |
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| ZogG_laptop | anyone use flikr paid account here? | 20:33 |
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| ZogG_laptop | Mohammad-: ping | 22:48 |
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| djszapi | anybody familiar enough with pyqt over here? | 23:07 |
| ZogG_laptop | djszapi: khertan, thp, bef0rd and few more | 23:17 |
| pa | depends what you mean with enough | 23:18 |
| pa | and besides why pyqt and not pyside? | 23:18 |
| djszapi | why not pyqt? :p | 23:19 |
| ZogG_laptop | why not assembler? | 23:20 |
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| bef0rd | hi | 23:20 |
| ZogG_laptop | bef0rd: 1) djszapi asking for pyqt devs for some reason | 23:20 |
| ZogG_laptop | 2) http://peterhansen.ca/blog/pyside-on-the-playbook.html | 23:20 |
| ZogG_laptop | and 2.1)http://hg.microcode.ca/blackberry-py/wiki/Home | 23:20 |
| ZogG_laptop | choose one you like more ( if those are not the same) | 23:21 |
| pa | djszapi, depends where you want to use it, of course. i guess you dont want to use it on harmattan | 23:21 |
| pa | then pyqt is probably ok | 23:21 |
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| djszapi | pa: desktop | 23:22 |
| djszapi | I am reading this Python 3 OOP book written by the arch fellas. | 23:22 |
| pa | oh python 3.. | 23:22 |
| djszapi | and OOD... | 23:22 |
| ZogG_laptop | bef0rd: does it look promising? | 23:24 |
| bef0rd | ZogG_laptop: looks nice, but "official" support would be better | 23:25 |
| bef0rd | a la Harmattan | 23:25 |
| ZogG_laptop | what was more official in harmattan | 23:26 |
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| pa | pyside | 23:26 |
| ZogG_laptop | pyside is official? | 23:27 |
| ZogG_laptop | is it? | 23:27 |
| pa | at least it was | 23:27 |
| ZogG_laptop | it is not | 23:27 |
| ZogG_laptop | it's not comming out of box | 23:27 |
| ZogG_laptop | you need to t least to install it and extra things | 23:28 |
| bef0rd | but its on the official repo | 23:28 |
| ZogG_laptop | qnx has no repos :P | 23:28 |
| bef0rd | you can distribute apps on the store and the dependencies will be automatically installed | 23:28 |
| djszapi | actually it does come. | 23:28 |
| bef0rd | hi djszapi | 23:28 |
| djszapi | as bef0rd said, it is in the official repository. | 23:29 |
| djszapi | bef0rd: hey | 23:29 |
| ZogG_laptop | http://wiki.meego.com/Python/Harmattan/Getting_started - as i see it here you need to install it | 23:29 |
| djszapi | yes, but that does not mean it is not supported. | 23:29 |
| djszapi | was not* | 23:29 |
| ZogG_laptop | i think you would need to go - in apps deps thing | 23:30 |
| ZogG_laptop | but it can be reported and it might be included | 23:30 |
| bef0rd | hopefully they will support it, most of the hardwork was already done by nokia, pyside, pyside-declarative etc | 23:31 |
| djszapi | I have two logical questions guys if you are interested. | 23:33 |
| djszapi | You have a wolf in an infinite plane. It has a constant velocity vector how it moves. When T=0 it is in the origo of the euclidean coordinate space. You have a shepster which can ask in every discrete time about a position if the wolf is there. The shepster does not know anything about the constant velocity vector. | 23:35 |
| djszapi | The question is whether the shepster can find the wolf, and if yes, what would be the fastest, and if not, why not. | 23:35 |
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| djszapi | pa: bef0rd ZogG_laptop ^ | 23:40 |
| bef0rd | let me see | 23:42 |
| ZogG_laptop | i got lost with question | 23:42 |
| ZogG_laptop | not sure what you want | 23:42 |
| ZogG_laptop | is it app/game related question? | 23:42 |
| djszapi | no, it is a logical question. | 23:43 |
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| bef0rd | is it known the position of shepster in time 0? | 23:45 |
| pa | what do you mean "what would be the fastest"? | 23:46 |
| djszapi | pa: algorithm. | 23:46 |
| djszapi | bef0rd: shepster has no position :) | 23:46 |
| pa | the shepster (?) can find the wolf, if the vector is constant | 23:46 |
| djszapi | bef0rd: he can just ask a position at each discrete time if the wolf is there or not. | 23:46 |
| pa | and he knows the vector is constatn | 23:46 |
| djszapi | the shepster cannot ask if the wolf had been there or not though. | 23:46 |
| djszapi | shepherd* | 23:47 |
| pa | i mean, you just have to check wolf position at T=n, then at T=n+1 , and reconstruct the vector as p_n+1 - p_n , right? | 23:48 |
| djszapi | did not get that question :) | 23:49 |
| pa | ah ok | 23:49 |
| pa | now i get it | 23:49 |
| pa | didnt read it well | 23:50 |
| pa | positions on the plane are discrete? | 23:51 |
| djszapi | once you solved it, I have another, but more difficult question ;) | 23:51 |
| djszapi | yes, like in the euclidean coordinate space. | 23:51 |
| pa | ok | 23:51 |
| djszapi | no height, nor width for the points. | 23:51 |
| pa | well you can find the wolf sure, if it starts from the origin as you say | 23:52 |
| pa | a stupid algorithm could simply check neighborhoods | 23:52 |
| djszapi | lemme know the algorithm | 23:52 |
| djszapi | pardon ? | 23:52 |
| pa | so say, you start from 0 | 23:52 |
| pa | you check the neighborhood of radius 1 | 23:52 |
| pa | so points -1,0 -1,1 0,1 1,1 1,0 (this is half of the neighborhood | 23:53 |
| pa | if you dont find, you go to radius 2 | 23:54 |
| pa | and so on | 23:54 |
| djszapi | 1,1 is not radius 1 | 23:54 |
| pa | good point | 23:54 |
| djszapi | nor -1,1 | 23:54 |
| pa | but it's a discrete position | 23:54 |
| djszapi | also, how do you know where to start? | 23:54 |
| djszapi | and if counter or clockwise? | 23:55 |
| pa | you said that the wolf is in the origin at T.0 | 23:55 |
| djszapi | you may miss with that algorithm | 23:55 |
| pa | and i assume there is no T=-1 | 23:55 |
| djszapi | yep, I said that. | 23:55 |
| pa | in which case it could be a problem | 23:55 |
| djszapi | sure, the wolf does not go back to the past :D | 23:55 |
| djszapi | it does not have a delorean | 23:55 |
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| pa | so it is true that saying radius = 1 is incorrect | 23:56 |
| pa | but i think the algo is still working | 23:56 |
| djszapi | why? | 23:57 |
| djszapi | the shepherd can only ask one discrete point at a discrete time. | 23:57 |
| pa | you essentially check all the possible locations at distance = 1 step from a position | 23:57 |
| djszapi | what if you start with 0,1 but wolf is at 1,0? | 23:57 |
| djszapi | for the second asking it will be 2,0 etc | 23:57 |
| pa | meaning a square around a point | 23:57 |
| djszapi | you will miss it... | 23:57 |
| pa | ah so you mean if you can catch the wolf while it runs | 23:58 |
| pa | hm | 23:58 |
| pa | with my algo you cant | 23:58 |
| pa | you can find him, if you freeze the wolf :) | 23:58 |
| pa | but let me think | 23:58 |
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