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| teleshoes | hey, im looking to write a qt app for the n9, and i dont wanna reinvent the wheel. if anyone has heard of an app with a feature like the one im going to write, please let me know | 02:40 |
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| teleshoes | a large-print text viewer, that adjusts the typeface's point size so that all the text fits, but is as large as possible | 02:41 |
| teleshoes | view "a" would show a giant letter a | 02:41 |
| teleshoes | view "Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetuer adipiscing elit, sed diam nonummy nibh euismod tincidunt ut laoreet dolore magna aliquam erat volutpat. Ut wisi enim ad minim veniam, quis nostrud exerci tation ullamcorper suscipit lobortis nisl ut aliquip ex ea commodo consequat. Duis autem vel eum iriure dolor in hendrerit in vulputate velit esse molestie consequat, vel illum dolore eu feugiat nulla facilisis at vero | 02:42 |
| teleshoes | would show all that text | 02:42 |
| teleshoes | fullscreen | 02:42 |
| teleshoes | the phone app does something quite similar with numbers | 02:43 |
| teleshoes | this sounds like it should exist, but it doesnt seem to | 02:43 |
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| teleshoes | the use case i have in mind is showing other people arbitrary text on my phone, e.g.: my deaf and visually impaired grandmother, and the bus employee who checks confirmation numbers | 02:47 |
| teleshoes | if i write it, im going to use a monospace typeface and restrict it to a subset of unicode that prints predictably in it | 02:49 |
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| teleshoes | anyone know how to install inconsolatas? | 04:59 |
| teleshoes | *Inconsolata | 05:00 |
| teleshoes | can i just stick it in /usr/share/fonts? | 05:01 |
| teleshoes | its an otf | 05:02 |
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| louisdk | Sleepless. Love my N950. Fullbrown pocket PC :D | 05:20 |
| teleshoes | heh sounds like you could use sleep | 05:20 |
| teleshoes | (full-brown) | 05:21 |
| teleshoes | im a member of the super-jealous-of-the-n950-despite-everyone-assuring-me-it-sucks | 05:21 |
| louisdk | he he. are you a nember of the n950club on facebook? :) | 05:26 |
| teleshoes | nope | 05:26 |
| teleshoes | if i had an n950, tho, everyone would know about it | 05:27 |
| teleshoes | id tell every single person i met until someone strangled me | 05:27 |
| ieatlint | my guess is they'd just rob you pretty soon | 05:27 |
| teleshoes | mm | 05:27 |
| louisdk | well. i was at locale fross camp this summer and at least ten people said that they would steal my phone while i was asleep, but nothing happened :p | 05:29 |
| teleshoes | heh | 05:29 |
| ieatlint | i keep mine at home so it's safe :P | 05:29 |
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| louisdk | well. i've brought a E7 cover for it. | 05:30 |
| ieatlint | i can't imagine that fits too well | 05:30 |
| louisdk | i meant a case. | 05:30 |
| louisdk | and it does. | 05:31 |
| ieatlint | yeah, i can see it fitting in a case | 05:31 |
| louisdk | a nice rubber case on ebay. | 05:31 |
| ieatlint | but a cover.. the monitor on the e7 is recessed from the top/bottom, whereas the n950 goes to the edges | 05:32 |
| louisdk | i cover for e7 woun't feet i agree. i saw a cover for n950 on a uk spare part side, but it was quite expensive. i guess because it custom made. | 05:33 |
| louisdk | btw i saw the launta prototype device. the design doesn't look like an upgrade compaired to the n950. the back-over is not flat and it's difficault to change things like the battery as on the n9. | 05:35 |
| ieatlint | eh, would still have preferred nfc | 05:38 |
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| ieatlint | and despite the issues with the pentile display, the amoled aspect gives the n9 one of my favourite unique features.. the standby screen | 05:39 |
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| louisdk | well i miss the standby screen too. | 05:39 |
| louisdk | i have a broken n9 that i want to repair and then sell. i need a new middle chasis, but i can't find one without having to buy a new back cover. | 05:41 |
| teleshoes | oh yea | 05:41 |
| teleshoes | thats my only solace | 05:41 |
| teleshoes | i LOVE the standby screen | 05:42 |
| teleshoes | especially with lpsmagic and n9-button-monitor | 05:42 |
| louisdk | teleshoes: I still prefers a full qwerty keyboard over the standby screen :) | 05:43 |
| teleshoes | yea | 05:43 |
| teleshoes | i would too | 05:43 |
| teleshoes | but standby screen is real real nice | 05:43 |
| ieatlint | i wonder if nokia patented it | 05:44 |
| ieatlint | and why it's not made an appearance on their windows phones | 05:45 |
| teleshoes | i dont think anyone really cared about it | 05:45 |
| teleshoes | and im sure they did | 05:45 |
| ieatlint | it's also on several symbian phones, and was well reviewed | 05:45 |
| teleshoes | oh, didnt know thta | 05:45 |
| ieatlint | it's actually probably the most common feature others see and like on my n9 | 05:46 |
| teleshoes | i bet lotsa phones will have them soon | 05:46 |
| teleshoes | i always have trouble showing off how awesome my phone is | 05:46 |
| ieatlint | yeah, i believe all the symbian belle phones with amoled screens have it.. my n8 and c7 have it, and i know the 700, 701 at least do too | 05:46 |
| ieatlint | the double tap to unlock is a feature i've seen no where else, and would love to see again | 05:47 |
| teleshoes | i hate that shit | 05:47 |
| teleshoes | personally | 05:47 |
| teleshoes | i turned that off after about 3 days | 05:47 |
| ieatlint | the n9 is the most ambidextrous phone i've ever seen | 05:47 |
| teleshoes | true dat homes | 05:48 |
| louisdk | the n9 has many oniqure features ignored by the greater public do to lack of marketing and focus on it. and i really don't see why the 808 could'nt be a meego phone. | 05:48 |
| teleshoes | the greater public says mysterious phrases like 'no apps' | 05:49 |
| louisdk | elop just don't want linux or nokia to success. wp is more importent | 05:49 |
| teleshoes | enough elop bashing | 05:49 |
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| louisdk | teleshoes: it has quite a good handfull of usefull apps. even my local broacasters have apps for meego. but if harmattan was released on more phones many more apps would be ported. | 05:51 |
| ieatlint | meh, dreams of what could have been are pointless | 05:51 |
| ieatlint | i'm just hoping that the features i really like that are unique to harmattan appear again elsewhere | 05:52 |
| teleshoes | i dont understand what people are talking about when they say apps | 05:52 |
| ieatlint | then again, apple will probably just use them and then claim they invented them :P | 05:52 |
| ieatlint | tis a shame no one thought of creating a device with rounded corners before apple | 05:53 |
| teleshoes | hah | 05:53 |
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| louisdk | i just hope that jolla would release a qwerty phone in the next year. i don't just want an open os. i want a full-brown linux pocket pc that either run x or wayland. | 05:57 |
| teleshoes | full-brown? | 05:57 |
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| teleshoes | your n950 runs X | 05:58 |
| louisdk | teleshoes: i know. x forwarding over ssh works. but i hope that jolla would be a great successor, so i can get a new phone when this is old. | 06:02 |
| teleshoes | yea | 06:04 |
| teleshoes | i hope they make a phone and not a tablet | 06:04 |
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| teleshoes | can someone whos not using openmode tell me if this package works? | 06:37 |
| teleshoes | http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/pool/main/f/fonts-inconsolata/fonts-inconsolata_001.010-4_all.deb | 06:38 |
| teleshoes | works for me | 06:38 |
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| louisdk | extra fonts? | 06:53 |
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| Dante_J | Anyone aware of conky being available for the N9? | 07:36 |
| jonni | Dante_J: yes, http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=81392 | 07:49 |
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| Dante_J | thank you jonni - beautiful! | 07:56 |
| Dante_J | How about a Wifi information app like this: WifiInfo http://maemo.org/downloads/product/Maemo5/wifiinfo/ ? | 07:58 |
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| ieatlint | there's an app called "MeeWiMan" similar to that | 08:02 |
| ieatlint | it's in the app store | 08:02 |
| Dante_J | thanks ieatlint - did'nt see it when I was searching for an equivalent. Cheers | 08:03 |
| djszapi_ | ieatlint: heyo sup sir | 08:05 |
| ieatlint | hey | 08:06 |
| ieatlint | how goes? | 08:06 |
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| djszapi_ | trying to play with snowshoe :) | 08:07 |
| djszapi_ | qt5/webkit2 based qml browser | 08:07 |
| djszapi_ | entirely open source :) | 08:07 |
| djszapi_ | looks much better than grob altogether. | 08:08 |
| ieatlint | yeah, i've seen it | 08:08 |
| ieatlint | it didn't seem to offer too much of an advantage | 08:09 |
| djszapi_ | well, it is open source for starter. | 08:10 |
| djszapi_ | so there is no situation of "oh grob fails again, let us fix it.. oh wait, it is closed". | 08:11 |
| ieatlint | yeah.. it's a good demo | 08:11 |
| djszapi_ | or "hmm, I would need a functionality that grob has... oopsie it is not open, so we cannot actually check". | 08:12 |
| djszapi_ | in addition, grob is not based on qml | 08:12 |
| djszapi_ | means, it is hard to extend. | 08:12 |
| djszapi_ | it has a huge list of bugreports. | 08:12 |
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| susundbe1g | Good morning everyone -- my N9 does not mount /home/user/MyDocs on boot. Sofar i have fixed this by doing manual mount with opensh -- i though fixing this my modifying /etc/fstab but what would be the proper solution? | 10:21 |
| susundbe1g | (oh should i be at #N9?) | 10:21 |
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| susundbe1g | And what do you think -- is that file safe to edit as 'cat /var/lib/aegis/refhashlist |grep fstab' shows nothing but lib/udev/fstab_import | 10:24 |
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| divan | hi all. does anyone use pyside-assistant in MacOS X? | 11:42 |
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| pa | you shouldnt use pyside-assistant first of all :) it generates packages that are not optified | 11:50 |
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| divan | pa, I've seen a hack for creating optified debs. But, is there any tool or way to create proper debs? | 13:58 |
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| pa | there was a nice howto | 14:02 |
| pa | http://forum.meego.com/showthread.php?t=5880 | 14:03 |
| pa | i used it, it works very well | 14:03 |
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| djszapi_ | jonni: can you try qt5-components again? | 14:16 |
| djszapi_ | and run the example? | 14:16 |
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| susundbe1g | I dont get it: script 'init/mount-home.conf' that might be launched at boot (at least its protected by aegis) should mount tmpfs at MyDocs if something goes wrong with the normal mounting but after reboot mount|grep MyDocs shows nothing | 14:36 |
| susundbe1g | (The original problem beeing that after reboot my N9 doesnt have MyDocs properly mounted) | 14:37 |
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| susundbe1g | Anyone? Any tips what to look for would be appriciated, or any tips that this is know and unfixable bug or similar? | 14:47 |
| djszapi_ | anybody feels like trying my qt5-components package in the community repository? | 14:56 |
| djszapi_ | It would be a nice help :-) | 14:56 |
| djszapi_ | just install and run the example. | 14:56 |
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| susundbe1g | this: https://build.pub.meego.com/package/binaries?package=qt5-components&project=home%3Arzr%3Aharmattan&repository=MeeGo_1.2_Harmattan_Maemo.org_MeeGo_1.2_Harmattan_standard ? | 15:01 |
| djszapi_ | susundbe1g: just "fakeroot apt-get install qt5-components" | 15:02 |
| divan | pa, awesome. Thanks a lot. I guess this method should also work on the device itself, right? | 15:02 |
| djszapi_ | once you have the community repository in your sources list on the device | 15:02 |
| djszapi_ | along with the harmattan repository. | 15:02 |
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| pa | divan, hm probably, never tried tho :) | 15:05 |
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| susundbe1g | sorry djszapi_, without futher instructions i cannot do anything: like what would be the community repository location, and i would rather also read something like 'it doesnt fuck up your package manager' or 'suitable for N9 pr1.3'. | 15:06 |
| susundbe1g | or is the community repository maybe intendent only for developer-platforms -- not for daily use ? | 15:07 |
| djszapi_ | susundbe1g: check the landing page | 15:07 |
| djszapi_ | it is all documented | 15:07 |
| djszapi_ | also, it installs the files into /opt/qt5 so it cannot break your system | 15:07 |
| djszapi_ | nobody reported that | 15:07 |
| djszapi_ | only reports so far is runtime issues | 15:07 |
| djszapi_ | which I am trying to fix, but I need testers from the community ... | 15:08 |
| djszapi_ | so | 15:08 |
| susundbe1g | ( http://wiki.meego.com/N950_landing_page ) -- this one? | 15:08 |
| djszapi_ | echo 'deb http://repo.pub.meego.com/home:/rzr:/harmattan/MeeGo_1.2_Harmattan_Maemo.org_MeeGo_1.2_Harmattan_standard/ ./' >>/etc/apt/sources.list.d/nicks.list | 15:08 |
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| djszapi_ | please also add this one: deb http://harmattan-dev.nokia.com/ harmattan/sdk free non-free | 15:08 |
| djszapi_ | and then just "fakeroot apt-get update && apt-get install qt5-components" | 15:08 |
| djszapi_ | and then /opt./qt5/bin/QmlComponentsGallery | 15:08 |
| djszapi_ | or how the example is called :-) | 15:09 |
| djszapi_ | perhaps I should upload all this to Ovi. | 15:10 |
| djszapi_ | submit* | 15:10 |
| pa | yea, meeTrainer 0.2.2 available on the store, eventuallly | 15:10 |
| pa | djszapi, ofc u should | 15:10 |
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| susundbe1g | or why not http://apps.formeego.org/applications/ ? | 15:11 |
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| susundbe1g | mm, adding those repos gives me updates that didn't exists before .. i am bit afraid of them .. | 15:19 |
| djszapi_ | susundbe1g: because app for meego sucks. | 15:20 |
| djszapi_ | apps* | 15:20 |
| susundbe1g | k, good enough reason :) | 15:20 |
| susundbe1g | "libgpg-error0 libogg0 libpixman-1-0 lzop | 15:21 |
| djszapi_ | pa: you are aware of that you are not talking to me when you talk to djszapi? | 15:21 |
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| pa | ups.. i missed the _ | 15:21 |
| djszapi_ | pa: well I would not like to submit until the orientation and touch issues are fixed. | 15:22 |
| pa | ah i see | 15:23 |
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| pa | what does qt5-components exactly include? | 15:23 |
| pa | i guess no qtmobility, right? | 15:24 |
| djszapi_ | in Qt5? | 15:24 |
| djszapi_ | not really, no. | 15:24 |
| djszapi_ | why would you? | 15:24 |
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| djszapi_ | There are QtSensors | 15:24 |
| djszapi_ | QtLocation | 15:24 |
| djszapi_ | etc | 15:24 |
| djszapi_ | QtMultimedia | 15:24 |
| djszapi_ | you do not really have a good reason fro that | 15:24 |
| djszapi_ | for* | 15:24 |
| pa | but so what is qtmobility for? | 15:24 |
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| pa | well ok, contacts i guess are not in stock qt | 15:25 |
| djszapi_ | it is | 15:25 |
| djszapi_ | QtPim | 15:25 |
| djszapi_ | anyawys | 15:25 |
| djszapi_ | anyways* | 15:25 |
| djszapi_ | good test example will be the new Qt5 and Webkit2 based open source browser, called snowshoe | 15:25 |
| djszapi_ | written mostly in qml | 15:26 |
| djszapi_ | aside from some glue | 15:26 |
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| heymaster | So Symbian is not dead? I will get update for my Nokia 500 | 15:27 |
| heymaster | :) | 15:27 |
| pa | heh, if it is not , it will be soon :) | 15:27 |
| heymaster | i though it's dead when i bought my phone :) | 15:30 |
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| djszapi_ | this browser is actually seems quite impressive. | 15:34 |
| heymaster | just thinking does Jolla platform will have appstore ? | 15:34 |
| djszapi_ | browser actually* | 15:34 |
| susundbe1g | djszapi_: installing that package requires ~75M of other stuff required and the community repo has 6 updates, i think i am too afraid to proceed with my only phone .. | 15:34 |
| djszapi_ | susundbe1g: 75 MB on a flash with 16 GB? | 15:34 |
| djszapi_ | perhaps you should listen to the old Deep Purple song? :) | 15:35 |
| susundbe1g | :) | 15:35 |
| djszapi_ | well it is up to you. I would not like to demand. | 15:35 |
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| susundbe1g | oh, i will just do purge later and cross my fingers .. the home mounting is not working anyway so re-flash might do good .. | 15:37 |
| susundbe1g | btw any ideas if somebody has mirrored: https://endno.de/~itsnotabigtruck/inception/ | 15:38 |
| djszapi_ | so why speculate :) | 15:38 |
| djszapi_ | heymaster: what is this hype around Jolla? There are no Jolla devices :) | 15:38 |
| djszapi_ | just because it has a lot of hype, it does not mean, it has anything usable for us :) | 15:38 |
| djszapi_ | communication is heaven, reality is nothing pretty much so far for us :) | 15:38 |
| djszapi_ | also, afaik, they do not use Qt5 anyways | 15:38 |
| djszapi_ | so not much interest for me. | 15:38 |
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| heymaster | djszapi_: yes, you right | 15:40 |
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| heymaster | so which platform to use? | 15:41 |
| heymaster | :) | 15:41 |
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| djszapi_ | heymaster: as for me harmattan seems only capable for Qt5 | 15:43 |
| djszapi_ | that is why I have been working on this recently. | 15:43 |
| djszapi_ | no other platforms aside desktop | 15:43 |
| djszapi_ | RIM is getting there, but not there | 15:43 |
| djszapi_ | raspberry pi is a hype | 15:43 |
| djszapi_ | no devices to the community | 15:43 |
| djszapi_ | and of course not a target system | 15:43 |
| djszapi_ | android is stuck with 4.8 | 15:43 |
| djszapi_ | jolla qt4 | 15:43 |
| djszapi_ | Symbian is unsupported in Qt5. | 15:43 |
| djszapi_ | I do not see any other option for Harmattan to be honest. | 15:44 |
| heymaster | i have rasberrypi that can i do with it ? Program with Qt? | 15:45 |
| suy | djszapi_: isn't a bit early to expect many things having Qt5? The beta is just some days old. | 15:45 |
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| suy | I mean, I guess that necessitas will have Qt5, no? | 15:45 |
| djszapi_ | suy: yes in 1-2 years? | 15:46 |
| djszapi_ | or more? | 15:46 |
| pa | by the way, guys, anyone owning rpi? | 15:46 |
| djszapi_ | they have been doing Qt4.8 for about 2 years | 15:46 |
| djszapi_ | I do not wanna wait 2 years | 15:46 |
| djszapi_ | if I can do this right away | 15:46 |
| pa | do you know whether accelerated codec are available? | 15:46 |
| pa | the soc is supposed to be great at encoding h264 realtime | 15:47 |
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| heymaster | pa: you can buy license | 15:47 |
| pa | ah.. | 15:47 |
| pa | and then i get the codecs? | 15:48 |
| pa | so i assume they will be available via unofficial ways too, right? | 15:48 |
| susundbe1g | dependecies seems to fail: http://pastebin.com/N9dvvZgY | 15:48 |
| pa | (and i dont care, coz i'd use those only for myself) | 15:48 |
| heymaster | pa: http://www.raspberrypi.com/mpeg-2-license-key/ | 15:49 |
| heymaster | pa: don't know | 15:49 |
| djszapi_ | heymaster: can you get libxcb in other way? | 15:49 |
| pa | ah thanks! | 15:49 |
| pa | but hw mpeg2 decoding is useless.. | 15:49 |
| susundbe1g | oh, seems like: 'Aegis rejecting /var/cache/apt/archives/libxcb-atom1_0.3.6-2+0m6_armel.deb: package 'libxcb-atom1' origin cannot be determined -- signature check failed' | 15:50 |
| djszapi_ | susundbe1g: yeah, I saw. | 15:50 |
| djszapi_ | that is a common issue with the Nokia repository | 15:50 |
| djszapi_ | unsure what the solution was. | 15:50 |
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| djszapi_ | perhaps we should repackage those things in the community repostiory | 15:50 |
| djszapi_ | repository* | 15:50 |
| djszapi_ | although that will not help with stuff | 15:50 |
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| djszapi_ | I do not understand why apps4meego got rights | 15:51 |
| pa | ah i see it doesnt need licenses for h264 | 15:51 |
| pa | as decoding is free | 15:51 |
| djszapi_ | the community repository should also have gained those. | 15:51 |
| heymaster | pa: :) | 15:51 |
| susundbe1g | i guess the inception tools can get past those but i am again feeling like i am one step closer to flashing the phone .. | 15:51 |
| pa | heymaster, actually it seems the encoding is included without license, according to wikipedia (news of 31 august) | 15:52 |
| pa | 24 sorry | 15:52 |
| djszapi_ | susundbe1g: no | 15:53 |
| djszapi_ | just read the channel log | 15:53 |
| djszapi_ | I recommended the solutions back then | 15:53 |
| djszapi_ | but I forgot that | 15:53 |
| heymaster | pa: ok :) | 15:53 |
| djszapi_ | I also had a bureport for this with a workaround | 15:53 |
| djszapi_ | maybe, but unsure. | 15:53 |
| pa | http://www.raspberrypi.org/archives/1839 | 15:53 |
| djszapi_ | heymaster: either way, try to manually wget the package | 15:53 |
| heymaster | pa: cool :) | 15:55 |
| djszapi_ | susundbe1g: ^ | 15:55 |
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| djszapi_ | susundbe1g: http://harmattan-dev.nokia.com/pool/harmattan/free/x/xcb-util/ -> from here. | 15:56 |
| djszapi_ | also make sure you use fakeroot and develsh + devel-su | 15:56 |
| djszapi_ | please do not try this in any other ways. | 15:56 |
| djszapi_ | anybody else can try to install qt5-components? | 15:57 |
| djszapi_ | and run the example? | 15:57 |
| suy | djszapi_: I'm no expert, but (WRT Qt on Android), I thought the whole point was basing the port on QPA and the integration with Creator, and the deployment (ministro). If that is more or less done, I don't see why it should be hard to port to Qt5. Besides, I think that Digia is somewhat interested. | 15:58 |
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| djszapi_ | suy: well | 15:59 |
| djszapi_ | the whole port is not too hard | 15:59 |
| djszapi_ | but still nowhere after two years | 15:59 |
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| djszapi_ | Quim expressed this quite well at QtCS: There is a lot of hype, but not much actually done | 15:59 |
| djszapi_ | this was the point | 15:59 |
| djszapi_ | the communication and reality are a bit far away. :) | 15:59 |
| pa | but now with digia, it should happen, right? | 16:00 |
| djszapi_ | ah yeah Digia will be savior, sure. | 16:00 |
| djszapi_ | no marketing pitch at all. | 16:00 |
| suy | Ok. I haven't read the necessitas list since some months. As I said, I'm no expert. :) | 16:00 |
| pa | :) | 16:00 |
| pa | well they claimed they want to officially port it to android.. i assume they want to, so that they can make money out of it | 16:00 |
| djszapi_ | Digia will make a better flourishing on iStuff than it was at the Athen times! | 16:01 |
| djszapi_ | so will they for Android! | 16:01 |
| djszapi_ | There are so many business use cases! | 16:01 |
| djszapi_ | and google will turn upside down with their thinking now asap! | 16:01 |
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| djszapi_ | oh yeah, and forgot the fact Apple will also open up their strategy for Qt collaboration | 16:08 |
| djszapi_ | ahahaha :D | 16:08 |
| susundbe1g | djszapi_: i have no idea about fakeroot but changing from opensh to develsh + devel-su allowed me to do dpkg -i that library | 16:08 |
| djszapi_ | Digia had to say something hypey :) | 16:08 |
| djszapi_ | otherwise the situation would not look any different on the communication level as the accenture shift. | 16:08 |
| djszapi_ | susundbe1g: uh | 16:09 |
| djszapi_ | please never use opensh for this | 16:09 |
| djszapi_ | use the recommended workflow | 16:09 |
| djszapi_ | nice, run the example? | 16:09 |
| djszapi_ | orientation does not work I presume? | 16:09 |
| susundbe1g | that is described in? | 16:09 |
| djszapi_ | how about the touch input all over the screen? | 16:09 |
| susundbe1g | just a moment, still installing :) | 16:09 |
| djszapi_ | susundbe1g: on my blog | 16:09 |
| djszapi_ | and iirc it is also linked on tmo | 16:09 |
| susundbe1g | http://lpapp.blogspot.fi/ ? | 16:10 |
| djszapi_ | but it is not Qt5 specific | 16:10 |
| djszapi_ | if you are doing opensh, you are on your own | 16:10 |
| djszapi_ | do not expect stuff | 16:10 |
| djszapi_ | yes | 16:10 |
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| djszapi_ | my device is getting more and more broken XD | 16:11 |
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| susundbe1g | orientation seems to be landskape no matter how much i shake the phone (N9 pr1.3) | 16:12 |
| djszapiN9 | yep, expected | 16:12 |
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| djszapiN9 | touch input? | 16:13 |
| susundbe1g | djszapi_: oh, actually, the orientation changed after swipe exit from the app | 16:13 |
| djszapiN9 | yep, known | 16:13 |
| djszapiN9 | because that is handled differently. | 16:14 |
| susundbe1g | touch input seems to work at some buttons | 16:14 |
| susundbe1g | dont know if its just my bad aim, | 16:14 |
| susundbe1g | toggle statusbar works now, imho it didnt work in the beginning | 16:14 |
| djszapiN9 | it does not work on the right in landscape, right? | 16:14 |
| djszapiN9 | and bottom in portrait? | 16:15 |
| susundbe1g | what should toggle toolbar do? | 16:15 |
| susundbe1g | now it only changes color .. (portrait) | 16:15 |
| djszapiN9 | no clue | 16:15 |
| susundbe1g | :D | 16:15 |
| djszapiN9 | try to check the input touch bug please... | 16:16 |
| susundbe1g | it exited somehow, here is output if needed: http://pastebin.com/0b7xgA3T | 16:16 |
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| susundbe1g | so bug would be that touch-input not working? | 16:16 |
| djszapiN9 | in half part of the screen... | 16:16 |
| susundbe1g | my guess is that as there is no button pressed animation i might just missed what it should do | 16:16 |
| djszapiN9 | like I described above... | 16:16 |
| susundbe1g | so device portrait -> launch from ssh console -> app in landscape | 16:17 |
| susundbe1g | the touch input seems to work at whole right side of the screen on landmode, where right side is near to 'nokia' sign and buttons are pointing 'up' | 16:19 |
| susundbe1g | but if the arrows on the left side are suppose to be input sensitive then those are not working | 16:19 |
| djszapiN9 | means | 16:20 |
| susundbe1g | No you are right, right side touch input is not working, easy to see with 'buttons' | 16:20 |
| djszapiN9 | you are holding your device wrong :) | 16:20 |
| djszapiN9 | but ok. | 16:20 |
| susundbe1g | (at least on landscape mode) | 16:21 |
| djszapiN9 | so the bug persists. cli output? | 16:21 |
| susundbe1g | meaning the terminal output (as pastebinned before) or ? | 16:22 |
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| djszapiN9 | output of the application. | 16:23 |
| djszapiN9 | so not the install output.. | 16:23 |
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| susundbe1g | it doesnt seem that usefull to me: http://pastebin.com/VT7CCC8z | 16:24 |
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| susundbe1g | this is launch -> landscape -> buttons -> clicking the invert theme button to see that it works on other half of the display | 16:25 |
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| susundbe1g | djszapi_: anythine else you want me to test with? | 16:27 |
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| djszapi_ | it is actually very useful | 16:28 |
| djszapi_ | "Module 'com.nokia.meego' does not contain a module identifier directive - it cannot be protected from external registrations." | 16:28 |
| djszapi_ | I wonder why it is still there... | 16:28 |
| djszapi_ | "file:///opt/qt5/imports/com/nokia/meego/ScrollDecorator.qml:84: Error: Cannot assign JavaScript function to bool" | 16:29 |
| djszapi_ | paste that line please? | 16:29 |
| djszapi_ | huh... | 16:29 |
| susundbe1g | eah.. wait .. | 16:30 |
| susundbe1g | my i was to eager to purge .. | 16:30 |
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| susundbe1g | djszapi_: http://pastebin.com/b1VbBeJZ -- line 84 separated at the end | 16:34 |
| djszapi_ | susundbe1g: duh.... | 16:35 |
| susundbe1g | yea, good luck | 16:35 |
| djszapi_ | my new pushes did not affect for some reason... :( | 16:35 |
| djszapi_ | this is an obsolete code | 16:35 |
| susundbe1g | oh, thats kind of bad testing then | 16:35 |
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| djszapi_ | susundbe1g: indeed | 16:39 |
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| cockroach | hi! small question, if i may: i'm trying to get the SDK working and the installation seems to have finished just fine. however, when I "meego-sb-session start" in scratchbox, "nothing happens" in the Xephyr window | 16:52 |
| cockroach | does anyone have an idea about what I might be doing wrong? | 16:52 |
| cockroach | it seems to start just fine btw, http://pastebin.ca/2203515 | 16:53 |
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| leinir | Before continuing (and sorry, i can't help you with that one), do you have any particularly good reason for using scratchbox? :) | 16:54 |
| cockroach | hmm no, it's just what the user guide told me to do :) | 16:54 |
| leinir | Yeah, thought that might be the case ;) | 16:54 |
| cockroach | heh. is there a better way to do things then? | 16:54 |
| leinir | A much easier one, at any rate, if you don't actually have a need for the gritty details of scratchbox :) | 16:55 |
| leinir | http://harmattan-dev.nokia.com/docs/library/html/guide/html/Developer_Library_Getting_started_with_Harmattan_using_Qt_SDK.html | 16:55 |
| cockroach | ah nice, thanks, i'll try that! | 16:56 |
| leinir | You're welcome :) | 16:56 |
| cockroach | out of ignorance i first tried the meego SDK which seems to be based on qt creator, that one failed horribly :) - let's hope this works better | 16:57 |
| leinir | yeah, that one never reeeally got finished... bit sad, really :) | 16:57 |
| cockroach | yup, it looks rather ... out of date & unmaintained. | 16:58 |
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| djszapi_ | susundbe1g: I will chop the documentation off | 17:04 |
| djszapi_ | that will save you some megabytes, but just after it is all working, not now. | 17:04 |
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| cockroach | ok, back again. now, i seem to have the qt sdk up & running (installed from debian's repo) but there doesn't seem to be a harmattan target. do i need to install the sdk from source or is there a way to just add harmattan support? | 17:46 |
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| thp | cockroach: you can install the harmattan target via the "qt sdk maintenance" utility | 17:57 |
| thp | "Maintain Qt SDK" or something like that | 17:58 |
| cockroach | thp: ah, sounds good, i'll try that. thanks! | 17:58 |
| cockroach | hmm, can't seem to find it. any idea whether i need to add some specific debian package to get the maintenance utility? | 18:05 |
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| merlin1991 | cockroach: the qt sdk inside the official debian pacakges is too old | 18:08 |
| cockroach | merlin1991: aww. even the one in wheezy? | 18:08 |
| merlin1991 | you'll have to grab a more recent version from here: http://qt.nokia.com/downloads | 18:08 |
| cockroach | merlin1991: ok, thank. sounds like a project for tomorrow :) | 18:09 |
| merlin1991 | hm actually according to the debian page wheezy ships 2.4.0 | 18:10 |
| merlin1991 | which is fairly new | 18:10 |
| cockroach | mine says "qt creator 2.5.0", but it doesn't seem to have the management/update option in the help menu | 18:11 |
| cockroach | (brb) | 18:11 |
| merlin1991 | cockroach: the management update is a different program | 18:11 |
| merlin1991 | (has it's own .desktop file) | 18:11 |
| cockroach | (ok, back) | 18:20 |
| cockroach | merlin1991: you wouldn't happen to know what the .desktop file is called? | 18:20 |
| merlin1991 | nope | 18:20 |
| merlin1991 | also I don't know if the debian package even ships it, I guess it doesn't | 18:21 |
| susundbe1g | sorry for repeating myself, but this is annoying mee too much: anyone tips how to/where to look for/fix N9 not mounting /home/user/MyDocs after reboot -- actually nothing is seems to be mounted at that point, even though 'init/mount-home.conf' script should mount some temp there if the real mounting fails. | 18:21 |
| cockroach | merlin1991: maybe not :( | 18:21 |
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| merlin1991 | susundbe1g: check if you even have a proper filesystem on the respective partition | 18:21 |
| dm8tbr | and force-fsck it from a PC | 18:22 |
| susundbe1g | merlin1991: thanks for the reply -- i can mount the partition properly manually and everthing works fine after that, but its not mounted at boot | 18:22 |
| susundbe1g | (i mean mount /home/user/MyDocs goes ok and everthing that should be there works fine) | 18:23 |
| merlin1991 | susundbe1g: which dev node does it actually mount? | 18:23 |
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| djszapi|vb | M4rtinK: hey | 18:26 |
| djszapi|vb | M4rtinK: could you please help with the gtk2 build? | 18:26 |
| djszapi|vb | apparently Qt accessibility depends on that | 18:26 |
| susundbe1g | merlin1991: sorry, i dont know how to produce that, here is mount and ls -lah /dev/mmcblk0p1 : http://pastebin.com/6ZSJWAKE | 18:27 |
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| susundbe1g | (oh is it the one listed in ls, 179) | 18:29 |
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| merlin1991 | susundbe1g: hm your system seems to be fine, anything in the syslog maybe? | 18:29 |
| djszapi_ | beford: heyo | 18:29 |
| susundbe1g | no, nothing that would seem related, tried grepping 'mount' 'MyDocs', 'Failed' or 'Error' | 18:31 |
| susundbe1g | what i am pondering is the script /etc/init/mount-home.conf -- that (at least) does mount that MyDocs -- could it be that its for reason or another not executed or it fails before it goes to the part where that partition should be mouned | 18:32 |
| susundbe1g | mounted | 18:32 |
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| djszapiN9 | M4rtinK, weirdly enough, it is building in testing. | 18:49 |
| M4rtinK | in another repo ? | 18:52 |
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| M4rtinK | djszapi: I see the same behaviour - it builds in home:MartinK:gtk but not in home:MartinK:harmattan :) | 18:53 |
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| djszapi_ | M4rtinK: really? | 19:04 |
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| djszapi_ | M4rtinK: what error are you facing? | 19:04 |
| M4rtinK | the same as you are - the immodule one | 19:09 |
| djszapi_ | looks weird, doesn't it? :) | 19:10 |
| M4rtinK | it IS weird - as it really hapens in one repo and not in other :) | 19:10 |
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| djszapi_ | yes, but do not tell this to the gnome guy | 19:13 |
| djszapi_ | on the other irc | 19:13 |
| djszapi_ | otherwise they will instantly ignore c-obs | 19:14 |
| djszapi_ | and blame you | 19:14 |
| djszapi_ | ask what can cause it | 19:14 |
| djszapi_ | and how this can be solved or worked around | 19:14 |
| M4rtinK | rZr mentioned that ho found some way to build it | 19:14 |
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| M4rtinK | but he might have meant some other issue, not this one | 19:15 |
| djszapi_ | yeah | 19:15 |
| djszapi_ | and he is off anyways | 19:15 |
| djszapi_ | I need the solution now | 19:15 |
| djszapi_ | to build qt5 with accessibility :) | 19:15 |
| M4rtinK | BTW, why are you building: "A set of language and system independant CORBA interfaces." | 19:16 |
| M4rtinK | ? :) | 19:16 |
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| djszapi_ | M4rtinK: needed for atspi | 19:16 |
| djszapi_ | which is needed for Qt Accessibility. | 19:17 |
| M4rtinK | CORBA, srsly ? :) | 19:17 |
| djszapi_ | yes :-) | 19:17 |
| M4rtinK | have you tried to just drop the dependency ? | 19:17 |
| djszapi_ | no | 19:17 |
| djszapi_ | because it built locally in no time | 19:17 |
| M4rtinK | do it :) | 19:17 |
| djszapi_ | so no hack needed to upstream debian | 19:17 |
| djszapi_ | why? | 19:17 |
| djszapi_ | I do not wanna differ from upstream debian | 19:17 |
| djszapi_ | if possible. | 19:18 |
| djszapi_ | otherwise keeping the sync is a royal pita... | 19:18 |
| M4rtinK | hmm | 19:18 |
| djszapi_ | if we also get 1000 packagers we can go our way :) | 19:18 |
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| djszapi_ | let us just get gtk and that one fixed | 19:19 |
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| djszapi_ | M4rtinK: gtk is more tricky | 19:23 |
| djszapi_ | I can fix bonobo by dropping the gtk doc dependency | 19:23 |
| djszapi_ | as the worst case scenario | 19:23 |
| M4rtinK | the gtk-doc dependency is horrendous | 19:23 |
| M4rtinK | I've tried to satisfy it, but dropped is when I got to docbook & latex | 19:24 |
| djszapi_ | well | 19:27 |
| djszapi_ | it works for other things | 19:27 |
| djszapi_ | also locally. | 19:27 |
| djszapi_ | usnure about that deletion thingie | 19:27 |
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| djszapi_ | M4rtinK: so what did they say? | 19:40 |
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| M4rtinK | djszapi: just asked why we are building bonobo | 19:52 |
| M4rtinK | djszapi: and I've answered that because of Debian sync | 19:53 |
| M4rtinK | thats all so far | 19:53 |
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| djszapi__ | I have added the description I wrote more than a year ago here: https://build.pub.meego.com/project/show?project=home%3Arzr%3Aharmattan Any feedback is welcome. | 20:02 |
| djszapi__ | s/added/updated/ | 20:02 |
| infobot | djszapi__ meant: I have updated the description I wrote more than a year ago here: https://build.pub.meego.com/project/show?project=home%3Arzr%3Aharmattan Any feedback is welcome. | 20:02 |
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| ZogG_laptop | sup | 20:07 |
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| pa | may i ask a nasty question about the coding competition? | 20:20 |
| pa | it says "from 11 june for 3 months" | 20:20 |
| pa | now.. what should i think of an application that got its first comment on the store the 15th of june? was it developed within the competition time frame? | 20:20 |
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| ZogG_laptop | pa, you can't say anything | 20:24 |
| ZogG_laptop | it's community one and you can't check everyone | 20:24 |
| ZogG_laptop | it's on people's responsobility to be honest :P | 20:24 |
| pa | oh you can | 20:25 |
| pa | kojaker asked explicitly for that | 20:25 |
| ZogG_laptop | no man | 20:26 |
| ZogG_laptop | there are things that disturbed me, but i just said it as advice for next one | 20:26 |
| ZogG_laptop | i don't think it's good idea to start now all the mess | 20:27 |
| pa | ZogG_laptop, Kojaker asked the participants on the planning thread to check the others if their entries were ok. yes he asked to do that earlier than this.. | 20:27 |
| pa | and i wont start anything, probably | 20:28 |
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| ZogG_laptop | pa, what app is it btw | 20:29 |
| pa | copilot | 20:29 |
| timmay | how do i uninstall a device update? | 20:29 |
| beford | if it was published to the store before the date then they should move it to the updates category | 20:29 |
| pa | actually it seems to me it is even older than june | 20:29 |
| ZogG_laptop | first time i hear about it | 20:29 |
| pa | afaik i tried it on may | 20:29 |
| pa | http://n9-apps.com/copilot-aka-geeps2 | 20:29 |
| ZogG_laptop | but anyway i think you can matter with vote :P | 20:29 |
| ZogG_laptop | just don't want | 20:29 |
| ZogG_laptop | oh i have it | 20:29 |
| ZogG_laptop | pa, it was port/update | 20:30 |
| ZogG_laptop | as it was on n900 | 20:30 |
| pa | hm | 20:30 |
| ZogG_laptop | and as far as i know dev is a good guy who provide free apps | 20:30 |
| pa | well in the thread its under location/navigation | 20:30 |
| pa | so it should be moved to port/update then | 20:30 |
| ZogG_laptop | yeah geeps2 i know didn't know other name | 20:30 |
| djszapi__ | "Free for limited time." | 20:31 |
| ZogG_laptop | it was rewritten i think | 20:31 |
| ZogG_laptop | i don't know | 20:31 |
| ZogG_laptop | i don't really care :P | 20:31 |
| pa | i do :p | 20:31 |
| pa | its in my category :) | 20:31 |
| ZogG_laptop | djszapi, that app was free for n900 and afaik open source | 20:31 |
| djszapi__ | we are not discussing N900 here. | 20:31 |
| djszapi__ | this is only free for limited time. | 20:31 |
| djszapi__ | which sucks. | 20:31 |
| ZogG_laptop | djszapi__, stop being grumpy | 20:31 |
| djszapi__ | pa: try to discuss with the author first | 20:32 |
| ZogG_laptop | pa, it's about competition and not politics | 20:32 |
| djszapi__ | if that clarification does not help with your worries, bring the topic up. | 20:32 |
| ZogG_laptop | i know you want to win but still | 20:32 |
| djszapi__ | honest is not politics. | 20:32 |
| ZogG_laptop | don't bring dirt in it | 20:32 |
| djszapi__ | and honest is before winning. | 20:32 |
| ZogG_laptop | djszapi, and yes n900 is related to competiton | 20:32 |
| ZogG_laptop | djszapi__, i don't think he did it on purpose, you accuse without knowing | 20:33 |
| ZogG_laptop | that's my point | 20:33 |
| timmay | several of the apps that i've tried to uninstall give me the message: Can't delete Unable to uninstall application Twitter because it is used by the following installations. To complete uninstallation, listed applications need to be uninstalled first. Device update how do i uninstall device update? | 20:33 |
| djszapi__ | pa: try to ask the author | 20:33 |
| djszapi__ | pa: perhaps there is something you do not know | 20:33 |
| djszapi__ | and the author can clarify | 20:33 |
| ZogG_laptop | timmay, you can't delete some of stock apps | 20:34 |
| ZogG_laptop | they connected to other apps | 20:34 |
| djszapi__ | if he still sounds fishy, bring it up without hesitation. | 20:34 |
| djszapi__ | timmay: the platform apps bundled into a metapackage | 20:34 |
| djszapi__ | which if you manage to remove, you break the platform. | 20:34 |
| pa | ok i try | 20:34 |
| timmay | so how do i complete or remove the update? | 20:35 |
| ZogG_laptop | timmay, what excatly u want to delete? | 20:35 |
| djszapi__ | timmay: I do not think you can nicely remove ("revert") an update | 20:35 |
| timmay | i can't install anything anymore | 20:35 |
| pa | another one | 20:35 |
| djszapi__ | timmay: if it is an ovi store application update, feel free to remove the application, but I do not think you can do more. | 20:35 |
| pa | june 10 | 20:35 |
| pa | jesus | 20:35 |
| pa | people really... | 20:36 |
| timmay | nor can i remove anything | 20:36 |
| pa | http://store.ovi.com/content/285601?clickSource=publisher+channel&channel=&pos=1 | 20:36 |
| djszapi__ | pa: same story | 20:36 |
| djszapi__ | try to clarify | 20:36 |
| ZogG_laptop | timmay, show exact msg | 20:37 |
| pa | djszapi__, but it seems i cant PM people on tmo.. | 20:38 |
| pa | i tried to send a pm, but it looks it has not been sent | 20:38 |
| timmay | that was the exact msg of me trying to uninstall twitter | 20:38 |
| djszapi__ | pa: google for their contacts | 20:38 |
| timmay | Can't delete Unable to uninstall application Twitter because it is used by the following installations. To complete uninstallation, listed applications need to be uninstalled first. Device update how do i uninstall device update? | 20:38 |
| ZogG_laptop | timmay, i mena of not able to update install stuff | 20:38 |
| timmay | ok | 20:39 |
| djszapi__ | timmay: you cannot uninstall twitter | 20:39 |
| ZogG_laptop | timmay, you can't uninstall twitter, again there are apps in system that depend on it | 20:39 |
| djszapi__ | please accept it. | 20:39 |
| djszapi__ | timmay: like I said above, it is a platform package. | 20:39 |
| djszapi__ | if you remove it, you break the platform. | 20:39 |
| djszapi__ | timmay: if it bothers you, place the icon away your eyes. | 20:40 |
| piggz | atleast my conscious is clear about the timeframe developping my app ;) | 20:40 |
| ZogG_laptop | timmay, there are few stock apps yo ucan delete with some hack that was described on TMO, but again it's not all apps | 20:40 |
| ZogG_laptop | as some apps too integrated and it can break things | 20:41 |
| ZogG_laptop | piggz, you do not do opensource right? | 20:41 |
| piggz | ZogG_laptop: rubbish | 20:41 |
| ZogG_laptop | piggz, ? | 20:41 |
| ZogG_laptop | piggz, just wondering | 20:41 |
| piggz | :) | 20:41 |
| valdur55 | timmay, you can disable service icon from accounts page | 20:42 |
| timmay | just tried to install 'Front Camera' got msg: Can't install Application incompatible with other installed applications | 20:42 |
| ZogG_laptop | piggz, i think it would be fair to have app in apps4meego for free. but again would respect if you don't :P | 20:42 |
| ZogG_laptop | timmay, and those are? | 20:42 |
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| timmay | that's usually what i get when i try to install something | 20:42 |
| djszapi__ | timmay: you mean from Ovi? | 20:43 |
| ZogG_laptop | timmay, open terminal and do dpkg -i package.deb | 20:43 |
| djszapi__ | ZogG_laptop: will not work | 20:43 |
| djszapi__ | that requires more privileges... | 20:43 |
| djszapi__ | timmay: I would suggest to grab a user package, and try using the pkgmgr on the console | 20:43 |
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| djszapi__ | timmay: if you have terminal (developer mode). | 20:43 |
| ZogG_laptop | rock and dizel fighting - it's awesome | 20:44 |
| timmay | no term :-( | 20:44 |
| ZogG_laptop | timmay, ssh? | 20:44 |
| djszapi__ | timmay: do you have meecatalog? | 20:44 |
| piggz | ZogG_laptop: i have no objection to publishing in apps-for-meego, atleast for some of my apps | 20:44 |
| timmay | no ssh, don't know how :-( | 20:44 |
| piggz | i have a bit of a mixture | 20:45 |
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| djszapi__ | timmay: have you enabled the developer mode? | 20:45 |
| piggz | i dont mind any of my free apps being o/s, but i also like to make a few pennies to buy toys :) | 20:45 |
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| ZogG_laptop | piggz, harmattan is small and i think ovi - paid and apps4meego free is good thing | 20:45 |
| kevin_b | Hello | 20:45 |
| timmay | djszapi__: how? | 20:46 |
| ZogG_laptop | piggz, but it needs to be opensource for apps for meego :) | 20:46 |
| djszapi__ | timmay: settings | 20:46 |
| djszapi__ | security | 20:46 |
| ZogG_laptop | i don't think it would work | 20:46 |
| kevin_b | just a note : I installed foreign PR1.3 image firmware, cause my device has not any available | 20:46 |
| ZogG_laptop | as it would need to install apps as well | 20:46 |
| ZogG_laptop | kevin_b, which one excatly? | 20:47 |
| djszapi__ | except that, that is not ovi | 20:47 |
| djszapi__ | but the matching version with the firmware on... | 20:47 |
| kevin_b | and when usb plugs, none of touch input are taken into account | 20:47 |
| timmay | djszapi__: it was on | 20:47 |
| djszapi__ | timmay: great, so you should see the terminal on the app grid. Do you see that? | 20:47 |
| timmay | no | 20:48 |
| ZogG_laptop | kevin_b, not sure if related but image again and did you check md5sum? | 20:48 |
| kevin_b | I didn't, how can I get the image codename from device? | 20:48 |
| djszapi__ | timmay: developer mode is on, and you do not see the terminal icon on the application launcher? | 20:48 |
| djszapi__ | timmay: not even meecatalog? | 20:48 |
| timmay | no | 20:48 |
| djszapi__ | that is quite beefy... | 20:49 |
| djszapi__ | timmay: can you install developer softwares? | 20:49 |
| ZogG_laptop | timmay, do you have SDK connective icon? | 20:49 |
| kevin_b | ZogG_laptop : I tested it twice the same image | 20:49 |
| timmay | no | 20:49 |
| ZogG_laptop | kevin_b, what is the image region? 001? | 20:49 |
| djszapi__ | no what? | 20:49 |
| kevin_b | ZogG_laptop : do you know how can I get the image codename from device? | 20:49 |
| kevin_b | 009 | 20:49 |
| ZogG_laptop | kevin_b, get the 001 and flash with it | 20:50 |
| kevin_b | 40.2012.21-3_PR_009 | 20:50 |
| djszapi__ | kevin_b: check settings about | 20:50 |
| ZogG_laptop | search google for link in logs | 20:50 |
| timmay | no sdk connective icons | 20:50 |
| ZogG_laptop | it was here when it was out | 20:50 |
| kevin_b | hoo thanks a lot for the advice | 20:50 |
| djszapi__ | timmay: can you install developer softwares? | 20:50 |
| ZogG_laptop | timmay, try to turn it off and on again | 20:50 |
| timmay | turning off... | 20:51 |
| timmay | turning on | 20:51 |
| ZogG_laptop | when u turn on it shuld install terminal and sdk connective | 20:51 |
| ZogG_laptop | first will give u option to use terminal on device second for ssh | 20:52 |
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| timmay | nope. showed all the icons and then went black showing the time with the little starthub at the bottom | 20:54 |
| ZogG_laptop | timmay, chek all icons, maybe u put it in folder icon? | 20:55 |
| ZogG_laptop | timmay, as well backup and reflash would solve | 20:55 |
| ZogG_laptop | but it's the last choice | 20:55 |
| timmay | can flashing be done on windows 7? my n900 had to be done on an XP box. | 20:57 |
| timmay | i just got the phone the other day. all icons were just like this. | 20:59 |
| piggz | anyone tried the new QtCreator yet? | 21:01 |
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| ZogG_laptop | piggz, not yet | 21:05 |
| piggz | ZogG_laptop: was wondering if anyone knew how to make it auto-detect the exisiting compilers/toolchains as kits | 21:06 |
| ZogG_laptop | piggz, i'm waiting till SDK is updated | 21:06 |
| ZogG_laptop | but i think it might be not | 21:06 |
| akreuzkamp | hi, there. I have a problem connecting to an https-server using a self-signed certificate. The problem is that I get the NetworkError SslHandshakeFailedError, but sslErrors is not emitted. Using the QtSimulator everything works, just on the device it fails.Any ideas, what the problem could be? | 21:07 |
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| ZogG_laptop | piggz, u can check all setting inside creator | 21:07 |
| ZogG_laptop | i mean in qtcreator in sdk | 21:07 |
| ZogG_laptop | after all it's almost the same | 21:07 |
| Kozzi | will replacing *64.png and *80.png enough for the app icon in a project or must there be a .svg also? | 21:08 |
| piggz | ZogG_laptop: they have changed to something called Kits now, if youve seen the announcement... | 21:08 |
| ZogG_laptop | Kozzi, i think best way to use svg and the begining | 21:08 |
| piggz | brb, kids to pick up! | 21:08 |
| ZogG_laptop | piggz, nope, link me after u come back | 21:08 |
| ZogG_laptop | damn C | 21:08 |
| ZogG_laptop | djszapi, are you good wtih C ? | 21:09 |
| Kozzi | https://dl.dropbox.com/u/71427510/apina.svg | 21:10 |
| Kozzi | https://dl.dropbox.com/u/71427510/apina80.png | 21:10 |
| Kozzi | I'm using Illustrator to save the svgm for some reason it looks different than the png one | 21:11 |
| Kozzi | any idea ? | 21:11 |
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| beford | use Inkscape? | 21:12 |
| ZogG_laptop | use beford | 21:12 |
| beford | :3 | 21:12 |
| Kozzi | beford: can inkscape open .ai files ? | 21:12 |
| ZogG_laptop | Kozzi, it's ugly anyway :P | 21:12 |
| beford | Kozzi: mm no, but you have the SVG already no? | 21:12 |
| Kozzi | well it's the logo of the site | 21:12 |
| Kozzi | beford: yes | 21:12 |
| beford | Kozzi: well I dont know if it supports it to be honest | 21:13 |
| beford | Kozzi: what is the problem? I mean, which one is correct the SVG or PNG? :P | 21:13 |
| Kozzi | beford: png is how I want the icon to look like :) | 21:13 |
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| beford | Kozzi: well there is a layer with the glossy effect on the SVG | 21:15 |
| beford | Kozzi: did you use javispedro icon maker site? | 21:15 |
| beford | or Nokia templates | 21:16 |
| Kozzi | nokia template | 21:16 |
| beford | Kozzi: and you dont want/like the shadow effect? just edit the SVG and remove it | 21:16 |
| Kozzi | yeah probably have to, I just find it weird that the png and svg look so different even though they are made from a same file | 21:18 |
| beford | http://imgur.com/w80gg | 21:18 |
| Kozzi | the gradient is much stronger with the svg version | 21:18 |
| beford | yea | 21:18 |
| beford | I have not used the nokia templates though | 21:18 |
| Kozzi | I'm too lazy to make my own template and color modes | 21:19 |
| Kozzi | :D | 21:19 |
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| piggz | back | 22:05 |
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| frals | Jaffa: regarding the screen swap, surprisingly easy if you have the right tools... be careful when undoing the screws thou, one of mine was way too tight so it broke when i tried to unscrew it | 22:55 |
| frals | luckily the top broke off clean and it was one of like 9 screws for battery holder so it didnt matter much | 22:55 |
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| Jake9xx | Jaffa: +1 on the tools like frals said. You need decent torx key for it | 23:07 |
| frals | yeah, make sure its a t4 instead of t5 like some guides suggest | 23:07 |
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| Jake9xx | frals: true, t4 it has to be. And careful when re-assembling it. One screw too tight ruins your device | 23:28 |
| piggz | argh, how to do QML profiling? | 23:37 |
| djszapi_ | with the qml profiler? | 23:40 |
| piggz | djszapi_: yes, i got that far, ive compiled the libs, enabled it in the make settings, but it keeps saying the application is not enabled for qml/js debugging | 23:45 |
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