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| pa | djszapi_, deadline approaching, hah? :) | 00:14 |
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| pa | well, good luck! hope you manage to submit! | 00:14 |
| djszapi_ | not really. | 00:14 |
| beford | more chances for us to win | 00:15 |
| beford | :P | 00:15 |
| pa | beford, by the way, do you know how to see users karma on tmo? | 00:17 |
| ZogG_laptop | oh, hhe is doing app? | 00:17 |
| ZogG_laptop | or is qt5 port as submition? | 00:17 |
| pa | is it the thanks or what? | 00:17 |
| beford | I think its the maemo.org karma | 00:17 |
| ZogG_laptop | beford, actually from nowhere i suddenly saw a lot of people submitting and announcements today :P | 00:17 |
| pa | i think it was qt5 yes | 00:17 |
| beford | http://maemo.org/profile/view/munozferna/ | 00:17 |
| ZogG_laptop | my tmo profile and maemo one were not connected :( | 00:18 |
| pa | ah | 00:18 |
| pa | i have no maemo.org profile.. | 00:18 |
| pa | if i create one, can i connect my tmo profile? | 00:19 |
| beford | yea | 00:19 |
| ZogG_laptop | http://maemo.org/profile/view/ZogG/ | 00:19 |
| ZogG_laptop | pa, no YOU can't. anyone can. but you can't | 00:19 |
| ZogG_laptop | beford, sup | 00:19 |
| ZogG_laptop | beford, wonder if you know C well? | 00:19 |
| beford | a little | 00:20 |
| beford | pa create it and connect it, it will take a while for the karma to appear but it will eventually be on your account | 00:21 |
| pa | oki i try thanks :) | 00:21 |
| ZogG_laptop | beford, lol, i'm maing this school project and just wonder who i can ask to review that shit load of shit code :P | 00:22 |
| pa | ok, call me dumb, but i dont see how to connect.. :) | 00:22 |
| djszapi_ | why are you talking about karmas? | 00:23 |
| djszapi_ | why is it important? | 00:23 |
| beford | you only need to add the uri for the ITT | 00:23 |
| beford | http://talk.maemo.org/member.php?u=number | 00:23 |
| beford | ZogG_laptop: what is it about? | 00:24 |
| ZogG_laptop | beford, kinda phonebook | 00:27 |
| pa | in ansi C? wow :) | 00:28 |
| ZogG_laptop | ansi? | 00:29 |
| ZogG_laptop | what is ansi? | 00:29 |
| ZogG_laptop | in visual studio C | 00:29 |
| ZogG_laptop | and it's not really phonebook | 00:30 |
| ZogG_laptop | just ading, aranging contacts by name and phone type and deleting them | 00:30 |
| djszapi_ | visual studio C is ansi C | 00:30 |
| ZogG_laptop | i dunno difference | 00:30 |
| djszapi_ | aka. no C99 even | 00:30 |
| ZogG_laptop | i don't know differences actually as i'm noob | 00:30 |
| ZogG_laptop | and it has call log and also show all delete make a queque for a call and shit like that | 00:31 |
| ZogG_laptop | stupid thing | 00:31 |
| ZogG_laptop | i need to finish sms's part only now | 00:31 |
| djszapi_ | "This version of the language is often referred to as ANSI C, Standard C, or sometimes C89." | 00:32 |
| djszapi_ | and msvc does not support C99 | 00:32 |
| djszapi_ | so does the winapi not. | 00:32 |
| ZogG_laptop | rashm2k, nice app :) but you shouldn't ask to vote just you would add new features :P | 00:34 |
| pa | shit my fridge got stuck again.. it almost froze everything.. -.- | 00:36 |
| ZogG_laptop | beford, ping | 00:40 |
| ZogG_laptop | =( | 00:40 |
| ZogG_laptop | ~ping | 00:40 |
| infobot | ~pong | 00:40 |
| ZogG_laptop | ~sup | 00:41 |
| infobot | Yo zogg_laptop, how's it going eh? | 00:41 |
| ZogG_laptop | infobot, not bad | 00:41 |
| infobot | goodgood | 00:41 |
| ZogG_laptop | infobot, how is wife? | 00:41 |
| infobot | I think you lost me on that one, ZogG_laptop | 00:41 |
| ZogG_laptop | infobot, are you married? | 00:41 |
| ZogG_laptop | infobot, what would you do to Elop? | 00:41 |
| ZogG_laptop | =( | 00:42 |
| ZogG_laptop | ~botsnack | 00:42 |
| infobot | ZogG_laptop: aw, gee | 00:42 |
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| rashm2k | My n9 is my main phone so I can't just wipe it to test my app | 00:59 |
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| rashm2k | oh its been a long weekend | 01:01 |
| ZogG_laptop | rashm2k, why would you wipe it? | 01:03 |
| rashm2k | when you need to mess with shared libs you do | 01:05 |
| rashm2k | just to be 100% sure | 01:05 |
| rashm2k | it work correctly | 01:05 |
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| ZogG_laptop | shared libs like what? | 01:06 |
| rashm2k | my own custom libs I have compiled | 01:07 |
| rashm2k | how do i get images side by side in a forum post? | 01:08 |
| ZogG_laptop | no idea | 01:08 |
| ZogG_laptop | so sil don't see the problem | 01:08 |
| ZogG_laptop | it's nice to have an extra device to test and code | 01:09 |
| rashm2k | yep | 01:09 |
| ZogG_laptop | but i still think u can handle with one | 01:09 |
| ZogG_laptop | i prefer begginers and people with no n9 got those :P) | 01:09 |
| ZogG_laptop | would be nice to see some ports to n9 of some devs who didn't get any | 01:09 |
| rashm2k | I have so far but when I need to mess with aegis I thunk i might brick my n9 | 01:09 |
| ZogG_laptop | why would u mess with aegis? | 01:10 |
| rashm2k | I nedd to store some user credentials | 01:10 |
| ZogG_laptop | and if itsnotabigtruck didn't brick his ... | 01:10 |
| ZogG_laptop | rashm2k, there is guy here who has no device and beginer and he managed to do it :P | 01:11 |
| ZogG_laptop | rashm2k, btw nice operator "3" | 01:13 |
| ZogG_laptop | custom? | 01:13 |
| rashm2k | no its a real network | 01:13 |
| rashm2k | lol coding with no device | 01:13 |
| rashm2k | thats pretty hard core | 01:14 |
| rashm2k | respect | 01:14 |
| ZogG_laptop | that's why i prefer people like him get device first and than others | 01:14 |
| ZogG_laptop | but again everyone votes like he wants | 01:14 |
| ZogG_laptop | some for friends, some were asked, so coz they like/respect someone and so on | 01:15 |
| rashm2k | I'm off te sleep now cya! | 01:17 |
| ZogG_laptop | bye | 01:18 |
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| ZogG_laptop | Dante_J, u are late again | 02:52 |
| ZogG_laptop | ready to change me on post? | 02:52 |
| Dante_J | heh | 02:52 |
| Dante_J | It's Morning still here ZogG_laptop - sorry if it appears late ;) | 02:52 |
| Dante_J | Out of curiosity, which N9 IRC client do people in this room prefer? | 02:53 |
| Dante_J | (& why?) | 02:53 |
| ZogG_laptop | irc hatter | 02:54 |
| ZogG_laptop | open source / free | 02:54 |
| ZogG_laptop | nice features and nice ui | 02:54 |
| Dante_J | In a non-Ovi repo? | 02:55 |
| ZogG_laptop | Venemo promissed to push it to apps4meego | 02:55 |
| Dante_J | ok, cool | 02:55 |
| ZogG_laptop | but it's on maemo wiki or meego wiki afaik | 02:56 |
| ZogG_laptop | with downloadable link | 02:56 |
| ZogG_laptop | or u can ask at the channel | 02:56 |
| ZogG_laptop | hiemanshu, ping, you also a dev of irc-chatter right? push it to apps4meego :P | 02:57 |
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| ZogG_laptop | ok, night | 02:59 |
| pa | i go too, night :) | 03:00 |
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| Tronic | Drive hangs on startup screen and I have to task-switch elsewhere and back to get it started. I've tried setting language and input method to en-GB but that didn't help. Any other ideas besides flashing? | 10:36 |
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| ZogG_laptop | jonni: i hope you submited backup manager for competition | 13:18 |
| ZogG_laptop | :P | 13:18 |
| rZr | hi | 13:21 |
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| ZogG_laptop | rZr: :P | 13:26 |
| ZogG_laptop | rZr: with djzapi? | 13:26 |
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| jussi | can someone link me to the reflash tool for the n9? | 14:38 |
| jussi | ahh I have the flasher, I mean the nice git script to get the firmward | 14:41 |
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| jussi | and never mind, my google skills are getting good :) | 14:45 |
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| suy | jussi: care to share that? I didn't knew of a git script for that... | 15:32 |
| jussi | suy: sure, its on the nemo wiki, for recovering your firmware after installing nemo: https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Nemo/Installing#Recovering_your_N9_firmware | 15:33 |
| jussi | and I worded wrong, not a git script, but a script in git... ;) | 15:34 |
| jussi | its a perl script ;) | 15:34 |
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| suy | jussi: Ok, that sounds nice. I've never liked the idea of using navifirm. | 15:36 |
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| timmay | just got my n9 in the mail today. doing updates now. | 17:08 |
| mgedmin | congrats! | 17:08 |
| timmay | already have the n900. so i guess this is an upgrade. | 17:12 |
| mgedmin | the n900 was way under-powered (only 256 megs of ram?) | 17:12 |
| mgedmin | the n9 almost isn't | 17:12 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | well, my panasonic CF-27 toughbook actually was underposered with 192MB of RAM - when I started openoffice | 17:14 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | s/ose/owe/ | 17:14 |
| infobot | DocScrutinizer05 meant: well, my panasonic CF-27 toughbook actually was underpowered with 192MB of RAM - when I started openoffice | 17:14 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | for general KDE working, it was pretty adequate | 17:15 |
| timmay | maybe i can save some time. i'm looking for 2 apps. custom ringtones and a way to automatically lock the phone | 17:15 |
| timmay | i'm on a wite called http://n9-apps.com/ | 17:15 |
| timmay | wite=site | 17:17 |
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| jussi | timmay: autolock should be in the settings iirc | 17:22 |
| jussi | and custom ringtones you can just put files into some folder - there are guides on the net | 17:22 |
| jussi | Unless you want to buy ringtones... :P | 17:22 |
| jussi | o,O | 17:22 |
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| Piru | hmm wait, is it normal that Nokia Link just terminates in the middle of backup operation? | 17:45 |
| Piru | .lbu file appears in the backups dir while it works.. but disappears and the app restarts as if no phone was connected | 17:57 |
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| Piru | oh, this is the OS X version. I'll give windows one a try | 17:58 |
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| Piru | also, is it possible to restore the backup to a different phone? I busted the screen of my 16GB model and would like to move everything to my 64GB one | 18:02 |
| Piru | oh sweet, it appears the windows Nokia Link worked ok. Well, I guess I'll find soon enough if I can restore to the 64GB one :) | 18:04 |
| jonni | Piru: or you can atleast dream about it, it might be that the default backup can only be restored to same device, but I might be wrong :) | 18:05 |
| Piru | that's my fear yes... | 18:06 |
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| jonni | atleast thats why I did my own custom backup script which doesnt encrypt the backup with the imei. | 18:06 |
| Piru | but before I even attempt that I'll make sure it has the same firmware version.. | 18:06 |
| Piru | oh damn, I see. no way then | 18:06 |
| jonni | well atleast you can backup your messages, contacts etc to pc suite, and those can be restored to any other device aswell. | 18:07 |
| Piru | and installed apps? | 18:07 |
| Piru | and their configs? | 18:07 |
| jonni | ökk | 18:07 |
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| jonni | Piru: installed apps are never backupped, even with nokia link. | 18:07 |
| jonni | Piru: so you always need to reinstall the apps | 18:08 |
| Piru | whut? that worked even with n900 | 18:08 |
| jonni | its a 'feature' :) | 18:08 |
| Piru | basically it just did dpkg --get-selections afaik, and stored the app config dir | 18:08 |
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| Piru | don't tell me N9 can't do that anymore.... | 18:09 |
| Piru | meh I guess I'll look into manual copying then | 18:09 |
| jonni | Piru: yep it can do it anymore, since you cannot apt-get ovi apps by defeault from commandline, you need to use the ovi store ui :) | 18:09 |
| jonni | thats why people tend to gather the deb packages to their personal backup dir and do dpkg -i *.deb after reinstall | 18:10 |
| Piru | soo what if I manually move the config dir over? | 18:10 |
| Piru | install the apps from the store | 18:10 |
| Piru | that should in theory work as the app would think it has been reinstalled or sth | 18:11 |
| jonni | most of the cases its just faster to configure everything from scratch | 18:11 |
| Piru | believe me, I am NOT fond of that idea | 18:11 |
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| Piru | plus I know my way around here, I have ssh enabled for instance | 18:11 |
| jonni | but yes, you can manually copy for example the angry birds level&highscore lists over the new device, if you dont want to start playing from scratch | 18:11 |
| Piru | and my own domain for the phone that updates automagically. hehe ;) | 18:12 |
| Msquared | Hi, everyone! | 18:12 |
| Piru | so is there just single dir which contains all the app configs? | 18:12 |
| Piru | I can manually back that up and install to the new device.. | 18:12 |
| Piru | then just install all apps that I have on the old phone | 18:13 |
| jonni | Piru: nope, evere app stores the configs where ever they want to, so its all over the place, some are under /etc, some under /opt, some under /home/user, etc | 18:13 |
| Piru | damn it. where did all that good n900 design go? ;-) | 18:14 |
| Msquared | I can't ssh to my N9 passwordless, despite following instructions at http://www.meegoexperts.com/2011/10/enable-ssh-usern950-public-key-authentication/ | 18:14 |
| Msquared | Is this the right place to ask, or should I ask on #N9? | 18:14 |
| jonni | basicly your reinstalling every app from start, only thing that pc suite saves you is the contacts and messages | 18:14 |
| Piru | I suppose I have to live with that then | 18:15 |
| Piru | annoying as hell though | 18:15 |
| Msquared | jonni: sounds like when I recently re-installed from a crashed N9 - ezylists stored its lists in /home/user, but lucky I was able to back up the relevant folder before I factory reset | 18:15 |
| Msquared | I'm sure I had it working before, but I've recently had to reset my N9 after it crashed while I was setting the time | 18:16 |
| jonni | Msquared: are you tring to ssh into user@192.168.2.15 or developer@192.168.2.15? and which dir you copied the authorized_keys into? | 18:16 |
| Msquared | user@ | 18:16 |
| jonni | Msquared: and have you remembered to set password to user with passwd command? | 18:17 |
| Msquared | I copied the authorized_keys file into /home/.ssh | 18:17 |
| Msquared | Yep, setting a password was the first thing I did | 18:17 |
| jonni | Msquared: which is wrong dir :) /home/user/.ssh | 18:17 |
| Msquared | Oops, /home/user/.ssh | 18:17 |
| Msquared | I'll try to reset the password again, hang on... | 18:18 |
| Msquared | Hmmm, still asking for my password on every connection. I even tried passwd -u user twice, as per the comment on that article. | 18:19 |
| jonni | Msquared: if you enter the password, does it let you in? | 18:20 |
| Msquared | Yes. I just can't get it to log in passwordless. | 18:20 |
| Msquared | I'm can't troubleshoot any further either, because nothing goes into /var/log/secure.log even though I've done "echo "auth.* -/var/log/secure.log" >> /etc/syslog.conf" and rebooted. | 18:21 |
| Msquared | I note that "start" and "stop" commands don't exist. Am I missing a package? | 18:22 |
| jonni | Msquared: a second I'll that does it work for me. | 18:22 |
| jonni | Msquared: start and stop are only in roots path, not in users | 18:22 |
| Msquared | Oh, hang on then... | 18:22 |
| Piru | Regarding the busted screen in the old N9: I think I'll get one of those ebay things with the whole display assembly and swap it myself. It'd be quite hard to separate the glass and the actual display | 18:23 |
| Piru | Whereas swapping the whole display assembly should be rather simple thing to do | 18:24 |
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| Msquared | OK, I can start and stop with /sbin/(start|stop) but there are still no log entries in /var/log/secure.log | 18:25 |
| Msquared | Hmmm, no information in /var/log/syslog to indicate I've done something wrong (or even something right) with /etc/syslog.conf | 18:28 |
| jonni | Msquared: I just tested, and it works for me just fine. passwd -u user didnt set passwd. but if I did, su - user; passwd; then it set it. | 18:29 |
| jonni | Msquared: maybe your authorized_keys file has wrong keys in it, or the file has wrong owner or chmod? | 18:29 |
| Msquared | I know passwd -u user doesn't set the password, it unlocks the password. However, I set the password from root via 'passwd user'; I'll try doing it the way you suggest and see what happens. | 18:31 |
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| Msquared | The authorized_keys file is definitely correct, and I'm fairly sure the mode/owner are correct, but without any log from sshd I can't troubleshoot any further. | 18:32 |
| Msquared | Any idea how to enable sshd logging? | 18:32 |
| Msquared | That's weird: "~ # su - user" yields "su: can't set groups: Operation not permitted" | 18:35 |
| jonni | Msquared: you can always increase logging level from client side too to see where it ends | 18:35 |
| Msquared | OK, I'll try that. | 18:35 |
| jonni | Msquared: but anyways for me it was just enough to vi authorized_keys file and insert the id_rsa.pub oneliner, didnt have to stop and start anything, worked out of the box | 18:37 |
| Piru | Msquared: check file permission. iirc sshd is picky about that for security reasons | 18:40 |
| Msquared | ~ $ ls -lad .ssh | 18:43 |
| Msquared | drwx------ 2 user users 4096 Jul 29 12:58 .ssh | 18:43 |
| Msquared | ~ $ ls -lad .ssh/authorized_keys | 18:44 |
| Msquared | -rw------- 1 user users 400 Jul 29 12:58 .ssh/authorized_keys | 18:44 |
| Msquared | That looks correct, right? | 18:44 |
| Msquared | I'll try re-copying my public key into it, but I'm pretty sure I copied it back from the copy I made before I performed a factory reset... | 18:45 |
| Piru | indeed it does | 18:45 |
| Msquared | Nope, re-copying the contents doesn't work. | 18:46 |
| Msquared | I'll copy the authorized_keys file from another host that I can log into passwordless | 18:46 |
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| djszapi | ZogG_laptop: feel free to send the qt meetup organizers to me. | 18:50 |
| Msquared | Hmmm. Nope, that doesn't work, either. So I'm 100% sure I have the right key in the right file with the right mode and the right owner, but I still can't log in passwordless. | 18:53 |
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| Msquared | Any thoughts on how to get the system to give me more debugging information? I tries DEBUG3 on the ssh client, but there was no difference between ssh to user@n9 and ssh to nonuser@n9 (I figure any difference might tell me what to look for, but didn't make a difference) | 18:54 |
| Msquared | I've never had this much trouble with ssh before. Even dropbear on xbian for my Raspberry Pi didn't give me this much grief... | 18:56 |
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| Oni^ | so is there anyway to ssh in N9 pr1.3 as user | 18:59 |
| Piru | jonni: hmm. the lbu appears to contain clear text strings | 19:00 |
| djszapi | Oni^: yes, but why would you do that? | 19:00 |
| Piru | jonni: if it is encrypted it for sure is a poor encryption. for example my skype contact names are visible | 19:00 |
| mgedmin | I ssh to my n9 as user all the time | 19:00 |
| Oni^ | it is easyer change settings and send file when using real keyboard | 19:01 |
| Msquared | mgedmin: ssh is working fine, but I just can't get it to work passwordless | 19:01 |
| Piru | if they actually only encrypted the data and not metadata then I *really* see no point in this encryption | 19:02 |
| Msquared | It's really frustrating, since I know I had it working before I factory-reset the N9 | 19:02 |
| mgedmin | Msquared, I use ssh keys | 19:02 |
| Piru | hmm the backup also has /home/user/.config/* | 19:03 |
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| djszapi | Oni^: you do not need user for that | 19:03 |
| Piru | with settings for many apps | 19:03 |
| Piru | jonni: are you sure you were 100% correct about everything? ;) | 19:03 |
| Piru | well I suppose we'll see in a sec. almost done with pr 1.3 update | 19:04 |
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| Piru | jonni: Nokia Link began restoring the files. | 19:06 |
| Piru | and restore is finished, N9 booted | 19:08 |
| Piru | moment of truth | 19:08 |
| Oni^ | I can't even ssh I always get Connection refused error | 19:09 |
| djszapi | Oni^: developer mode enabled? | 19:09 |
| djszapi | ssh server running? | 19:09 |
| Oni^ | no and yes | 19:10 |
| Piru | N9 asks to restore the applications | 19:10 |
| djszapi | Oni^: you need to be in developer mode | 19:10 |
| Oni^ | sshd is running | 19:10 |
| Piru | jonni: you seem to have some inaccurate info regarding this | 19:10 |
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| Msquared | mgedmin: yes, I'm trying to set up the ssh keys | 19:30 |
| djszapi | beford: heyo | 19:31 |
| beford | hi | 19:31 |
| Msquared | As far as I can tell, perhaps aegis is stopping sshd from logging me in via ssh keys. I've tried everything I can find, I've verified the ssh key I'm using, I've double-checked the mode and permissions on the .ssh folder and the authorized_keys file. | 19:31 |
| djszapi | beford: can I get access to a Mac machine for a bit, or can you try to reproduce a bug? | 19:32 |
| Msquared | I can't get any further because I can't work out how to log sshd messages. If I could do that, then at least sshd would tell me what's going on... | 19:32 |
| beford | Msquared: did you ssh-add after adding? | 19:32 |
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| djszapi | beford: https://bugreports.qt-project.org/browse/QTPLAYGROUND-4 | 19:32 |
| beford | i will try | 19:32 |
| Msquared | beford: Yes. This is my default setup. I even copied the authorized_keys file from a host that I can connect to passwordless to my N9 (fixing permissions and mode on the way), and it still doesn't work. | 19:33 |
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| djszapi | beford: do you still have your Qt installation on your Mac? | 19:37 |
| beford | no, I swapped the hard disc | 19:37 |
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| djszapi | beford: well, you need to go through the qtcore installation. | 19:38 |
| djszapi | beford: http://releases.qt-project.org/qt5.0/beta1/qt-mac-opensource-5.0.0-beta1-offline.dmg | 19:40 |
| djszapi | but if you wish, you can try with Qt4 as well. We should support both. | 19:41 |
| Msquared | Note that I'm trying to ssh passwordless over wifi... | 19:41 |
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| beford | im installing that one djszapi | 19:44 |
| beford | downloading^ | 19:44 |
| beford | Msquared: it should work over ssh too | 19:44 |
| beford | I have mine working without issue | 19:44 |
| beford | N9 PR1.3 | 19:44 |
| beford | Msquared: you are adding the keys for the user developer right? | 19:45 |
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| Msquared | I know. I had it working before, but I've since had to perform a factory reset. I must have missed something while I was setting it up again.... | 19:58 |
| Msquared | I don't want to log in as user developer, I want to log in as user user. | 19:59 |
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| Msquared | If I could work out how to get sshd to log to /var/log/secure.log like it's supposed to, at least I could find out why sshd is not working properly. | 20:00 |
| Msquared | The last entry in secure.log is dated 1st Nov last year, which I expect was probably just before an update... | 20:02 |
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| Msquared | I also have PR1.3, so I don't know what's wrong with this... | 20:03 |
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| valdur55 | first, log as developer | 20:05 |
| valdur55 | then devel-su | 20:05 |
| valdur55 | and then : passwd user | 20:05 |
| Msquared | I can log in as user@n9 using a password that I set; this is not a problem. | 20:06 |
| valdur55 | Msquared, then set your user password and then you can log to user account | 20:06 |
| Msquared | I can't seem to set it up to log in passwordless. | 20:06 |
| Msquared | The frustrating thing is that before I performed a factory reset, I had this working... | 20:07 |
| Msquared | I can't seem to work out how to enable sshd logging, which would at least let me troubleshoot further. | 20:08 |
| valdur55 | http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/530 | 20:08 |
| valdur55 | developer MyDocs is symblinked to ~/MyDocs | 20:09 |
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| valdur55 | ssh-copy-id -i Mydocs/../.ssh/id_rsa.pub your.phone.ip | 20:10 |
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| valdur55 | damn... it doesn't work :D | 20:11 |
| Msquared | I just "ssh-copy-id user@n9" from my laptop; all it did was to add a copy of the key that's already in authorized_keys. That only shows that I probably already had the key set correctly in the file. | 20:12 |
| Msquared | I've check and re-checked file permissions. I manage Linux machines for a living, so I've done all the usual checks, but I'm still lost. Last time I did this on my N9, this worked: http://www.meegoexperts.com/2011/10/enable-ssh-usern950-public-key-authentication/ | 20:13 |
| Msquared | Now that doesn't work, and the instructions there for enabling sshd logging don't work, either. | 20:14 |
| Msquared | Can anyone work out how to get sshd logging working? At least I could get sshd to tell me what's wrong! | 20:14 |
| valdur55 | http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/530 - i used this links | 20:15 |
| Msquared | There's nothing N9-specific there, and I'm sure this is N9-specific, since I've never had this much trouble getting password-less ssh logins to work... | 20:16 |
| valdur55 | login with keys isn't N9 specific | 20:16 |
| Msquared | I know that, but this problem whereby I can't login with the key might be. | 20:17 |
| valdur55 | first, you need archieve login with password | 20:17 |
| Msquared | I have achieved login with password. I have been saying this all along. | 20:17 |
| Msquared | That was indeed my first step. | 20:17 |
| Msquared | I'm not getting any information from the N9 to help me with my diagnostics; sshd is not logging anything to secure.log, so I don't know what to do next. | 20:18 |
| valdur55 | ok :) But then use: ssh-copy-id -i .ssh/id_rsa.pub user@n9 | 20:18 |
| Msquared | I've carefully checked the permissions on .ssh/ and authorized_keys, since I know sshd is very picky about that. | 20:18 |
| valdur55 | but, can you login to developer ? | 20:19 |
| Msquared | I used ssh-copy-id and all that did was make a second copy of my ssh key in authorized_keys; this shows me that I've probably done the right thing already. | 20:19 |
| Msquared | No, I can't log in to developer. | 20:19 |
| Msquared | However, I had this working before without logging in to developer. | 20:19 |
| Msquared | Maybe something changed between when I did this before and last week when I had to perform a factory reset. | 20:20 |
| Msquared | Let me try logging in as developer... | 20:20 |
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| valdur55 | Use SDK Connection manager | 20:20 |
| Msquared | OK, I can now log in via ssh to developer@n9 | 20:21 |
| Msquared | I just set the password via passwd developer | 20:21 |
| Msquared | SDK connection manager? | 20:21 |
| valdur55 | :D For password :D | 20:21 |
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| Msquared | Meh, I've got the password working anyway. I just overrode it. :o) | 20:22 |
| valdur55 | so.. nevermind. ... But try archive passwordless login to developer. | 20:22 |
| Msquared | OK... | 20:22 |
| Msquared | Ummmm... when I log in as developer, I'm dropped into / rather than some /home folder. Is that right? | 20:23 |
| valdur55 | /home/developer | 20:23 |
| Msquared | It won't let me set the user to developer on the folder /home/developer | 20:24 |
| djszapiN9 | beford, sup | 20:25 |
| Msquared | (I'm trying as root) | 20:25 |
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| jabis | Msquared: could you please see what the following produces: cat /etc/passwd | grep /user:/ | 20:27 |
| jabis | if you see :!: or :!!: then you won't be able to login via keys | 20:27 |
| valdur55 | user:!:29999:29999::/home/user:/bin/sh :P | 20:28 |
| jabis | devel-su - | 20:28 |
| jabis | your pass | 20:28 |
| jabis | passwd -S -u user | 20:28 |
| jabis | give new pass | 20:28 |
| jabis | do that a few times | 20:29 |
| Msquared | jabis: user:qwertyqwerty:29999:29999::/home/user:/bin/sh | 20:29 |
| Msquared | (note that I changed the password :) ) | 20:29 |
| jabis | yes | 20:29 |
| Piru | yep. everything moved to the new phone without issues | 20:29 |
| Piru | went much smoother than I thought | 20:30 |
| jabis | Msquared, after this: su user - | 20:30 |
| jabis | and passwd again using the user user :) | 20:30 |
| Msquared | ~ # su user - | 20:30 |
| Msquared | su: can't set groups: Operation not permitted | 20:31 |
| Msquared | Also, if I try "passwd -S -u user" then I get the help message | 20:31 |
| jabis | cool - different sh version | 20:31 |
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| jabis | well: passwd -u user then as devel-su - | 20:32 |
| Msquared | I'm running PR1.3 | 20:32 |
| jabis | remember to set the environment (devel-su -) | 20:32 |
| jabis | not just devel-su | 20:32 |
| Msquared | Oh, I didn't know you could add "-" on devel-su | 20:33 |
| Msquared | Hold on... | 20:33 |
| valdur55 | jabis, and what it gives? | 20:33 |
| Msquared | Oh, that's interesting. When I go "devel-su -" I get "mesg: Operation not permitted" at the end of the login message, and the prompt is different ("RM696-21-3_PR_005:~#") | 20:34 |
| jabis | yeh - the busybox-devel-su component is trying to execute some legacy command at the end of setting the environment (aegis stuff) | 20:34 |
| Msquared | "passwd -S -u user" still gives help message even if I go to root via "devel-su -" | 20:35 |
| jabis | valdur55, proper environment & elevates some needed perms | 20:35 |
| jabis | Msquared: drop the -S toggle - should be just as good with -u user as args | 20:35 |
| jabis | when you've set that one - just drop out of devel-su with ctrl+d to become the user again | 20:36 |
| jabis | whoami to confirm you're user not root :) | 20:36 |
| Msquared | jabis: Tried that; the help text goes away, and it says "Password changed." but it still asks for password when I ssh user@n9 | 20:36 |
| Msquared | jabis: which command must I run as user? | 20:37 |
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| jabis | plain passwd | 20:37 |
| Msquared | OK | 20:37 |
| Msquared | Nope, still asking for password when I ssh. | 20:38 |
| Msquared | I really need to get sshd to tell me what the hell is going on... | 20:38 |
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| Msquared | Maybe I can change "SyslogFacility AUTH" in /etc/ssh/sshd_config to something that will cause sshd's messages to show up in /var/log/syslog? Any idea? | 20:39 |
| jabis | also check the owner:group of /home/user/.ssh and it's contents user:users | 20:43 |
| Msquared | jabis: Already done. :) | 20:45 |
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| Msquared | How can we troubleshoot Aegis? | 20:47 |
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| jabis | gtg for a bit bb 40min | 20:52 |
| Msquared | OK | 20:52 |
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| Msquared | Argh! Fixed it! | 21:01 |
| Msquared | It was permissions. *hangs head in shame* | 21:01 |
| beford | on the n9? or the desktop? | 21:02 |
| Msquared | I checked .ssh and authorized_keys, but didn't check /home/user | 21:02 |
| Msquared | On the N9 | 21:02 |
| ZogG_laptop | djszapi: send me mail via jabber please | 21:02 |
| Msquared | I changed "SyslogFacility AUTH" to "SyslogFacility USER" in /etc/ssh/sshd_config and rebooted, and presto! sshd log entries started showing up in /var/log/syslog | 21:03 |
| ZogG_laptop | beford: what have you done with pomodoro btw? | 21:04 |
| beford | ZogG_laptop: with what? :P I submitted it for the contest | 21:04 |
| ZogG_laptop | with same name? | 21:04 |
| Msquared | I have no idea why the syslog instructions at http://www.meegoexperts.com/2011/10/enable-ssh-usern950-public-key-authentication/ don't work any more, but at least I have a workaround! | 21:04 |
| beford | ZogG_laptop: yea, I will probably have to rename it for the Ovi Store | 21:04 |
| beford | http://i.imgur.com/ktu91.png | 21:04 |
| beford | I added the "backgroud" message :P | 21:05 |
| Msquared | Oooh, a pomodoro timer for N9? | 21:05 |
| beford | yea, my submission for the coding contests | 21:05 |
| beford | http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=1263412 | 21:05 |
| beford | feedback is welcome :) | 21:05 |
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| Msquared | Initial feedback: when I click on "resistor color code" in that post, I go to lights off... | 21:09 |
| beford | oops | 21:09 |
| beford | :P | 21:09 |
| Msquared | :) | 21:09 |
| Msquared | I like the icons. I think you could put clock hands on the tomato icon (kind of as if the seeds were minute markers or something) | 21:10 |
| Msquared | But that's just me. :o) | 21:10 |
| Msquared | Option I'd like: choose the direction that it adds pomodoros/breaks (last on top or last on bottom) | 21:11 |
| Msquared | I do like the icons. I instantly knew what each icon was for.... | 21:11 |
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| Msquared | Oh hey, it shows up a system alarm icon while a pomodoro or break is counting down. Neat! | 21:12 |
| beford | yea, its integrated with the system alarms that way you can lock the phone and it will sound | 21:12 |
| Msquared | Awww. My N9 just rebooted itself. :-( | 21:12 |
| beford | I *could* even allow you to shutdown the phone and the alarm should sound according to the documentation but I did not try that | 21:13 |
| Msquared | How can I get some debug info to send you to help you out? | 21:13 |
| beford | mm weird it should not reboot anything | 21:13 |
| beford | what PR are you using? | 21:13 |
| Msquared | PR1.3 | 21:14 |
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| beford | I can enable some debug output let me see | 21:15 |
| Msquared | Sure, go ahead. | 21:16 |
| Msquared | Hey, the pomodoro alarm just went off, even though the phone rebooted and the app wasn't running a clock. Neat! | 21:16 |
| Msquared | Ooooh! Idea! When the alarm goes off: instead of the "snooze" button, put break and pomodoro buttons! | 21:17 |
| beford | well that UI is from system I dont think I can change it, I will have to check the API | 21:18 |
| Msquared | Oh yeah... Maybe the only way to implement custom buttons is to implement your own alarm class, or something... | 21:19 |
| djszapiN9 | beford, sup | 21:20 |
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| rashm2k | In my app I have a single QML component used across the entire app (a loading screen) - how do I instantiate a single instance of this in QML and use it? | 21:23 |
| djszapi_ | rashm2k: instantiate it once | 21:24 |
| djszapi_ | and use it | 21:24 |
| djszapi_ | inside the main.qml for instance | 21:24 |
| djszapi_ | which is loaded from the cpp | 21:24 |
| Msquared | beford: When my phone rebooted, it was after I had started a pomodoro, a short break, a pomodoro, and another short break, each less than 30 seconds apart (ie: I didn't let any of them finish before I started another one) | 21:26 |
| Msquared | I'm trying the same thing again, but it appears to be working fine so far... | 21:26 |
| rashm2k | Will also work with QML pages I load using javascript openFile(....?) | 21:27 |
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| djszapi_ | rashm2k: yeah | 22:13 |
| rashm2k | It doesn't seem to be able to reference it inside a Connection component | 22:15 |
| rashm2k | quick question on QDateTime | 22:15 |
| ZogG_laptop | beford: i saw thedead14something had it, so u in touch with him? | 22:16 |
| ZogG_laptop | beford: make the button unselected(pomodoro) at launch as well | 22:16 |
| rashm2k | how I read in a ISO duration into a date time? | 22:16 |
| rashm2k | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ISO_8601#Durations | 22:16 |
| rashm2k | And have this count down in QML? | 22:17 |
| rashm2k | i.e. count down seconds, minutes, hours, days | 22:17 |
| djszapi_ | you need to write a parser in javascript | 22:17 |
| djszapi_ | for the countdown, you need to timer, one for the second timer, and one for the usual. | 22:18 |
| djszapi_ | two timers* | 22:18 |
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| ZogG_laptop | beford: you are bad | 23:26 |
| ZogG_laptop | piggz: sup piggz | 23:26 |
| beford | hey | 23:26 |
| beford | why | 23:26 |
| beford | xD | 23:26 |
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| ZogG_laptop | beford: you disappear and never answer | 23:35 |
| beford | I changed computers sorry | 23:35 |
| beford | what did you ask ZogG_laptop ? | 23:36 |
| beford | I'm on the desktop now, had to start a vm | 23:36 |
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| ZogG_laptop | beford: why don't you set bouncer or use ssh to use same client? | 23:37 |
| ZogG_laptop | :P | 23:37 |
| ZogG_laptop | beford: i saw thedead14something had it, so u in touch with him? | 23:37 |
| ZogG_laptop | beford: make the button unselected(pomodoro) at launch as well | 23:37 |
| beford | need to get a server to put a bouncer there | 23:37 |
| beford | what happened to thedead? | 23:38 |
| beford | did the phone reboot too? | 23:38 |
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| ZogG_laptop | reboot waht? | 23:41 |
| beford | not sure | 23:41 |
| beford | what are we talking about | 23:41 |
| beford | xD | 23:41 |
| ZogG_laptop | what phone reboot? and why too? | 23:41 |
| ZogG_laptop | i wonder if you in touch with him | 23:41 |
| beford | oh you mean, thedead has the pomodoro app from ovi store? | 23:41 |
| ZogG_laptop | he has your pomodoro app | 23:41 |
| ZogG_laptop | i saw on screenies | 23:42 |
| beford | ah good | 23:42 |
| ZogG_laptop | so i asked if you in touch with him as you gave him to test it before it was released | 23:42 |
| beford | he owes me 0.99 now | 23:42 |
| beford | no, he probably got it from the thread I suppose | 23:42 |
| ZogG_laptop | why would he? | 23:42 |
| beford | for using my app ? :P | 23:42 |
| ZogG_laptop | ooo | 23:42 |
| ZogG_laptop | you gonna sell it on ovi? | 23:43 |
| beford | I was kidding :P | 23:43 |
| ZogG_laptop | make it 0.01 cheaper than other pomodoro | 23:43 |
| ZogG_laptop | why not | 23:43 |
| beford | I will publish it but after the contest is over | 23:43 |
| ZogG_laptop | i would put it free to apps4meego and paid to ovi | 23:43 |
| ZogG_laptop | that's the way to go | 23:43 |
| ZogG_laptop | i don't sell my app in ovi only coz it's shitty and would be unfair. your app seems to be finished | 23:44 |
| beford | heh | 23:45 |
| beford | the Msquare guy bought one of my apps after he tested the Pomodoro one :P | 23:45 |
| ZogG_laptop | what app? | 23:47 |
| ZogG_laptop | what apps you sell | 23:47 |
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| jpnurmi | grrr, hostile qDebug takeover by MComponentData | 23:49 |
| beford | he bought resistor code, and I have qstardict too | 23:49 |
| beford | oh and a small game | 23:50 |
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| piggz | lo ZogG_laptop | 23:52 |
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| ZogG_laptop | beford: u sell qstartdict | 23:56 |
| ZogG_laptop | firsst of all it was closed due license problems stardict i think | 23:57 |
| ZogG_laptop | second of all it's stardict | 23:57 |
| ZogG_laptop | and resistor code is yours? the one that shows the colours? | 23:57 |
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| ZogG_laptop | piggz: how are you? | 23:58 |
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| piggz | not bad :) looking on flea-bay for some shifters for my bike, not much coding tonight! | 23:58 |
| beford | ZogG_laptop, stardict was removed from sourceforge for the dictionaries I believe | 23:59 |
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