IRC log of #harmattan for Monday, 2012-09-10

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padjszapi_, deadline approaching, hah? :)00:14
pawell, good luck! hope you manage to submit!00:14
djszapi_not really.00:14
befordmore chances for us to win00:15
pabeford, by the way, do you know how to see users karma on tmo?00:17
ZogG_laptopoh, hhe is doing app?00:17
ZogG_laptopor is qt5 port as submition?00:17
pais it the thanks or what?00:17
befordI think its the karma00:17
ZogG_laptopbeford, actually from nowhere i suddenly saw a lot of people submitting and announcements today :P00:17
pai think it was qt5 yes00:17
ZogG_laptopmy tmo profile and maemo one were not connected :(00:18
pai have no profile..00:18
paif i create one, can i connect my tmo profile?00:19
ZogG_laptoppa, no YOU can't. anyone can. but you can't00:19
ZogG_laptopbeford, sup00:19
ZogG_laptopbeford, wonder if you know C well?00:19
beforda little00:20
befordpa create it and connect it, it will take a while for the karma to appear but it will eventually be on your account00:21
paoki i try thanks :)00:21
ZogG_laptopbeford, lol, i'm maing this school project and just wonder who i can ask to review that shit load of shit code :P00:22
paok, call me dumb, but i dont see how to connect.. :)00:22
djszapi_why are you talking about karmas?00:23
djszapi_why is it important?00:23
befordyou only need to add the uri for the ITT00:23
befordZogG_laptop: what is it about?00:24
ZogG_laptopbeford, kinda phonebook00:27
pain ansi C? wow :)00:28
ZogG_laptopwhat is ansi?00:29
ZogG_laptopin visual studio C00:29
ZogG_laptopand it's not really phonebook00:30
ZogG_laptopjust ading, aranging contacts by name and phone type and deleting them00:30
djszapi_visual studio C is ansi C00:30
ZogG_laptopi dunno difference00:30
djszapi_aka. no C99 even00:30
ZogG_laptopi don't know differences actually as i'm noob00:30
ZogG_laptopand it has call log and also show all delete make a queque for a call and shit like that00:31
ZogG_laptopstupid thing00:31
ZogG_laptopi need to finish sms's part only now00:31
djszapi_"This version of the language is often referred to as ANSI C, Standard C, or sometimes C89."00:32
djszapi_and msvc does not support C9900:32
djszapi_so does the winapi not.00:32
ZogG_laptoprashm2k, nice app :) but you shouldn't ask to vote just you would add new features :P00:34
pashit my fridge got stuck again.. it almost froze everything.. -.-00:36
ZogG_laptopbeford, ping00:40
infobotYo zogg_laptop, how's it going eh?00:41
ZogG_laptopinfobot, not bad00:41
ZogG_laptopinfobot, how is wife?00:41
infobotI think you lost me on that one, ZogG_laptop00:41
ZogG_laptopinfobot, are you married?00:41
ZogG_laptopinfobot, what would you do to Elop?00:41
infobotZogG_laptop: aw, gee00:42
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rashm2kMy n9 is my main phone so I can't just wipe it to test my app00:59
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rashm2koh its been a long weekend01:01
ZogG_laptoprashm2k, why would you wipe it?01:03
rashm2kwhen you need to mess with shared libs you do01:05
rashm2kjust to be 100% sure01:05
rashm2kit work correctly01:05
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ZogG_laptopshared libs like what?01:06
rashm2kmy own custom libs I have compiled01:07
rashm2khow do i get images side by side in a forum post?01:08
ZogG_laptopno idea01:08
ZogG_laptopso sil don't see the problem01:08
ZogG_laptopit's nice to have an extra device to test and code01:09
ZogG_laptopbut i still think u can handle with one01:09
ZogG_laptopi prefer begginers and people with no n9 got those :P)01:09
ZogG_laptopwould be nice to see some ports to n9 of some devs who didn't get any01:09
rashm2kI have so far but when I need to mess with aegis I thunk i might brick my n901:09
ZogG_laptopwhy would u mess with aegis?01:10
rashm2kI nedd to store some user credentials01:10
ZogG_laptopand if itsnotabigtruck didn't brick his ...01:10
ZogG_laptoprashm2k, there is guy here who has no device and beginer and he managed to do it :P01:11
ZogG_laptoprashm2k, btw nice operator "3"01:13
rashm2kno its a real network01:13
rashm2klol coding with no device01:13
rashm2kthats pretty hard core01:14
ZogG_laptopthat's why i prefer people like him get device first and than others01:14
ZogG_laptopbut again everyone votes like he wants01:14
ZogG_laptopsome for friends, some were asked, so coz they like/respect someone and so on01:15
rashm2kI'm off te sleep now cya!01:17
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* Dante_J greets the room02:50
ZogG_laptopDante_J, u are late again02:52
ZogG_laptopready to change me on post?02:52
Dante_JIt's Morning still here ZogG_laptop - sorry if it appears late ;)02:52
Dante_JOut of curiosity, which N9 IRC client do people in this room prefer?02:53
Dante_J(& why?)02:53
ZogG_laptopirc hatter02:54
ZogG_laptopopen source / free02:54
ZogG_laptopnice features and nice ui02:54
Dante_JIn a non-Ovi repo?02:55
ZogG_laptopVenemo promissed to push it to apps4meego02:55
Dante_Jok, cool02:55
ZogG_laptopbut it's on maemo wiki or meego wiki afaik02:56
ZogG_laptopwith downloadable link02:56
ZogG_laptopor u can ask at the channel02:56
ZogG_laptophiemanshu, ping, you also a dev of irc-chatter right? push it to apps4meego :P02:57
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ZogG_laptopok, night02:59
pai go too, night :)03:00
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TronicDrive hangs on startup screen and I have to task-switch elsewhere and back to get it started. I've tried setting language and input method to en-GB but that didn't help. Any other ideas besides flashing?10:36
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ZogG_laptopjonni: i hope you submited backup manager for competition13:18
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ZogG_laptoprZr: :P13:26
ZogG_laptoprZr: with djzapi?13:26
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jussican someone link me to the reflash tool for the n9?14:38
jussiahh I have the flasher, I mean the nice git script to get the firmward14:41
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jussiand never mind, my google skills are getting good :)14:45
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suyjussi: care to share that? I didn't knew of a git script for that...15:32
jussisuy: sure, its on the nemo wiki, for recovering your firmware after installing nemo:
jussiand I worded wrong, not a git script, but a script in git... ;)15:34
jussiits a perl script ;)15:34
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suyjussi: Ok, that sounds nice. I've never liked the idea of using navifirm.15:36
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timmayjust got my n9 in the mail today. doing updates now.17:08
timmayalready have the n900. so i guess this is an upgrade.17:12
mgedminthe n900 was way under-powered (only 256 megs of ram?)17:12
mgedminthe n9 almost isn't17:12
DocScrutinizer05well, my panasonic CF-27 toughbook actually was underposered with 192MB of RAM - when I started openoffice17:14
infobotDocScrutinizer05 meant: well, my panasonic CF-27 toughbook actually was underpowered with 192MB of RAM - when I started openoffice17:14
DocScrutinizer05for general KDE working, it was pretty adequate17:15
timmaymaybe i can save some time. i'm looking for 2 apps. custom ringtones and a way to automatically lock the phone17:15
timmayi'm on a wite called
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jussitimmay: autolock should be in the settings iirc17:22
jussiand custom ringtones you can just put files into some folder - there are guides on the net17:22
jussiUnless you want to buy ringtones... :P17:22
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Piruhmm wait, is it normal that Nokia Link just terminates in the middle of backup operation?17:45
Piru.lbu file appears in the backups dir while it works.. but disappears and the app restarts as if no phone was connected17:57
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Piruoh, this is the OS X version. I'll give windows one a try17:58
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Pirualso, is it possible to restore the backup to a different phone? I busted the screen of my 16GB model and would like to move everything to my 64GB one18:02
Piruoh sweet, it appears the windows Nokia Link worked ok. Well, I guess I'll find soon enough if I can restore to the 64GB one :)18:04
jonniPiru: or you can atleast dream about it, it might be that the default backup can only be restored to same device, but I might be wrong :)18:05
Piruthat's my fear yes...18:06
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jonniatleast thats why I did my own custom backup script which doesnt encrypt the backup with the imei.18:06
Pirubut before I even attempt that I'll make sure it has the same firmware version..18:06
Piruoh damn, I see. no way then18:06
jonniwell atleast you can backup your messages, contacts etc to pc suite, and those can be restored to any other device aswell.18:07
Piruand installed apps?18:07
Piruand their configs?18:07
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jonniPiru: installed apps are never backupped, even with nokia link.18:07
jonniPiru: so you always need to reinstall the apps18:08
Piruwhut? that worked even with n90018:08
jonniits a 'feature' :)18:08
Pirubasically it just did dpkg --get-selections afaik, and stored the app config dir18:08
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Pirudon't tell me N9 can't do that anymore....18:09
Pirumeh I guess I'll look into manual copying then18:09
jonniPiru: yep it can do it anymore, since you cannot apt-get ovi apps by defeault from commandline, you need to use the ovi store ui :)18:09
jonnithats why people tend to gather the deb packages to their personal backup dir and do dpkg -i *.deb after reinstall18:10
Pirusoo what if I manually move the config dir over?18:10
Piruinstall the apps from the store18:10
Piruthat should in theory work as the app would think it has been reinstalled or sth18:11
jonnimost of the cases its just faster to configure everything from scratch18:11
Pirubelieve me, I am NOT fond of that idea18:11
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Piruplus I know my way around here, I have ssh enabled for instance18:11
jonnibut yes, you can manually copy for example the angry birds level&highscore lists over the new device, if you dont want to start playing from scratch18:11
Piruand my own domain for the phone that updates automagically. hehe ;)18:12
MsquaredHi, everyone!18:12
Piruso is there just single dir which contains all the app configs?18:12
PiruI can manually back that up and install to the new device..18:12
Piruthen just install all apps that I have on the old phone18:13
jonniPiru: nope, evere app stores the configs where ever they want to, so its all over the place, some are under /etc, some under /opt, some under /home/user, etc18:13
Pirudamn it. where did all that good n900 design go? ;-)18:14
MsquaredI can't ssh to my N9 passwordless, despite following instructions at
MsquaredIs this the right place to ask, or should I ask on #N9?18:14
jonnibasicly your reinstalling every app from start, only thing that pc suite saves you is the contacts and messages18:14
PiruI suppose I have to live with that then18:15
Piruannoying as hell though18:15
Msquaredjonni: sounds like when I recently re-installed from a crashed N9 - ezylists stored its lists in /home/user, but lucky I was able to back up the relevant folder before I factory reset18:15
MsquaredI'm sure I had it working before, but I've recently had to reset my N9 after it crashed while I was setting the time18:16
jonniMsquared: are you tring to ssh into user@ or developer@ and which dir you copied the authorized_keys into?18:16
jonniMsquared: and have you remembered to set password to user with passwd command?18:17
MsquaredI copied the authorized_keys file into /home/.ssh18:17
MsquaredYep, setting a password was the first thing I did18:17
jonniMsquared: which is wrong dir :) /home/user/.ssh18:17
MsquaredOops, /home/user/.ssh18:17
MsquaredI'll try to reset the password again, hang on...18:18
MsquaredHmmm, still asking for my password on every connection.  I even tried passwd -u user twice, as per the comment on that article.18:19
jonniMsquared: if you enter the password, does it let you in?18:20
MsquaredYes.  I just can't get it to log in passwordless.18:20
MsquaredI'm can't troubleshoot any further either, because nothing goes into /var/log/secure.log even though I've done "echo "auth.* -/var/log/secure.log" >> /etc/syslog.conf" and rebooted.18:21
MsquaredI note that "start" and "stop" commands don't exist.  Am I missing a package?18:22
jonniMsquared: a second I'll that does it work for me.18:22
jonniMsquared: start and stop are only in roots path, not in users18:22
MsquaredOh, hang on then...18:22
PiruRegarding the busted screen in the old N9: I think I'll get one of those ebay things with the whole display assembly and swap it myself. It'd be quite hard to separate the glass and the actual display18:23
PiruWhereas swapping the whole display assembly should be rather simple thing to do18:24
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MsquaredOK, I can start and stop with /sbin/(start|stop) but there are still no log entries in /var/log/secure.log18:25
MsquaredHmmm, no information in /var/log/syslog to indicate I've done something wrong (or even something right) with /etc/syslog.conf18:28
jonniMsquared: I just tested, and it works for me just fine.  passwd -u user didnt set passwd. but if I did, su - user; passwd;  then it set it.18:29
jonniMsquared: maybe your authorized_keys file has wrong keys in it, or the file has wrong owner or chmod?18:29
MsquaredI know passwd -u user doesn't set the password, it unlocks the password.  However, I set the password from root via 'passwd user'; I'll try doing it the way you suggest and see what happens.18:31
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MsquaredThe authorized_keys file is definitely correct, and I'm fairly sure the mode/owner are correct, but without any log from sshd I can't troubleshoot any further.18:32
MsquaredAny idea how to enable sshd logging?18:32
MsquaredThat's weird:  "~ # su - user"  yields  "su: can't set groups: Operation not permitted"18:35
jonniMsquared: you can always increase logging level from client side too to see where it ends18:35
MsquaredOK, I'll try that.18:35
jonniMsquared: but anyways for me it was just enough to vi authorized_keys file and insert the oneliner, didnt have to stop and start anything, worked out of the box18:37
PiruMsquared: check file permission. iirc sshd is picky about that for security reasons18:40
Msquared~ $ ls -lad .ssh18:43
Msquareddrwx------    2 user     users         4096 Jul 29 12:58 .ssh18:43
Msquared~ $ ls -lad .ssh/authorized_keys18:44
Msquared-rw-------    1 user     users          400 Jul 29 12:58 .ssh/authorized_keys18:44
MsquaredThat looks correct, right?18:44
MsquaredI'll try re-copying my public key into it, but I'm pretty sure I copied it back from the copy I made before I performed a factory reset...18:45
Piruindeed it does18:45
MsquaredNope, re-copying the contents doesn't work.18:46
MsquaredI'll copy the authorized_keys file from another host that I can log into passwordless18:46
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djszapiZogG_laptop: feel free to send the qt meetup organizers to me.18:50
MsquaredHmmm.  Nope, that doesn't work, either.  So I'm 100% sure I have the right key in the right file with the right mode and the right owner, but I still can't log in passwordless.18:53
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MsquaredAny thoughts on how to get the system to give me more debugging information?  I tries DEBUG3 on the ssh client, but there was no difference between ssh to user@n9 and ssh to nonuser@n9 (I figure any difference might tell me what to look for, but didn't make a difference)18:54
MsquaredI've never had this much trouble with ssh before.  Even dropbear on xbian for my Raspberry Pi didn't give me this much grief...18:56
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Oni^so is there anyway to ssh in N9 pr1.3 as user18:59
Pirujonni: hmm. the lbu appears to contain clear text strings19:00
djszapiOni^: yes, but why would you do that?19:00
Pirujonni: if it is encrypted it for sure is a poor encryption. for example my skype contact names are visible19:00
mgedminI ssh to my n9 as user all the time19:00
Oni^it is easyer change settings and send file when using real keyboard19:01
Msquaredmgedmin: ssh is working fine, but I just can't get it to work passwordless19:01
Piruif they actually only encrypted the data and not metadata then I *really* see no point in this encryption19:02
MsquaredIt's really frustrating, since I know I had it working before I factory-reset the N919:02
mgedminMsquared, I use ssh keys19:02
Piruhmm the backup also has /home/user/.config/*19:03
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djszapiOni^: you do not need user for that19:03
Piruwith settings for many apps19:03
Pirujonni: are you sure you were 100% correct about everything? ;)19:03
Piruwell I suppose we'll see in a sec. almost done with pr 1.3 update19:04
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Pirujonni: Nokia Link began restoring the files.19:06
Piruand restore is finished, N9 booted19:08
Pirumoment of truth19:08
Oni^I can't even ssh I always get Connection refused error19:09
djszapiOni^: developer mode enabled?19:09
djszapissh server running?19:09
Oni^no and yes19:10
PiruN9 asks to restore the applications19:10
djszapiOni^: you need to be in developer mode19:10
Oni^sshd is running19:10
Pirujonni: you seem to have some inaccurate info regarding this19:10
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Msquaredmgedmin: yes, I'm trying to set up the ssh keys19:30
djszapibeford: heyo19:31
MsquaredAs far as I can tell, perhaps aegis is stopping sshd from logging me in via ssh keys.  I've tried everything I can find, I've verified the ssh key I'm using, I've double-checked the mode and permissions on the .ssh folder and the authorized_keys file.19:31
djszapibeford: can I get access to a Mac machine for a bit, or can you try to reproduce a bug?19:32
MsquaredI can't get any further because I can't work out how to log sshd messages.  If I could do that, then at least sshd would tell me what's going on...19:32
befordMsquared: did you ssh-add after adding?19:32
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befordi will try19:32
Msquaredbeford: Yes.  This is my default setup.  I even copied the authorized_keys file from a host that I can connect to passwordless to my N9 (fixing permissions and mode on the way), and it still doesn't work.19:33
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djszapibeford: do you still have your Qt installation on your Mac?19:37
befordno, I swapped the hard disc19:37
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djszapibeford: well, you need to go through the qtcore installation.19:38
djszapibut if you wish, you can try with Qt4 as well. We should support both.19:41
MsquaredNote that I'm trying to ssh passwordless over wifi...19:41
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befordim installing that one djszapi19:44
befordMsquared: it should work over ssh too19:44
befordI have mine working without issue19:44
befordN9 PR1.319:44
befordMsquared: you are adding the keys for the user developer right?19:45
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MsquaredI know.  I had it working before, but I've since had to perform a factory reset.  I must have missed something while I was setting it up again....19:58
MsquaredI don't want to log in as user developer, I want to log in as user user.19:59
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MsquaredIf I could work out how to get sshd to log to /var/log/secure.log like it's supposed to, at least I could find out why sshd is not working properly.20:00
MsquaredThe last entry in secure.log is dated 1st Nov last year, which I expect was probably just before an update...20:02
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MsquaredI also have PR1.3, so I don't know what's wrong with this...20:03
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valdur55first, log  as developer20:05
valdur55then devel-su20:05
valdur55and then : passwd user20:05
MsquaredI can log in as user@n9 using a password that I set; this is not a problem.20:06
valdur55Msquared, then set your user password and then you can log to user account20:06
MsquaredI can't seem to set it up to log in passwordless.20:06
MsquaredThe frustrating thing is that before I performed a factory reset, I had this working...20:07
MsquaredI can't seem to work out how to enable sshd logging, which would at least let me troubleshoot further.20:08
valdur55developer MyDocs is symblinked to ~/MyDocs20:09
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valdur55 ssh-copy-id -i Mydocs/../.ssh/
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valdur55damn...  it doesn't work :D20:11
MsquaredI just "ssh-copy-id user@n9" from my laptop; all it did was to add a copy of the key that's already in authorized_keys.  That only shows that I probably already had the key set correctly in the file.20:12
MsquaredI've check and re-checked file permissions.  I manage Linux machines for a living, so I've done all the usual checks, but I'm still lost.  Last time I did this on my N9, this worked:
MsquaredNow that doesn't work, and the instructions there for enabling sshd logging don't work, either.20:14
MsquaredCan anyone work out how to get sshd logging working?  At least I could get sshd to tell me what's wrong!20:14
valdur55 - i used this links20:15
MsquaredThere's nothing N9-specific there, and I'm sure this is N9-specific, since I've never had this much trouble getting password-less ssh logins to work...20:16
valdur55login with keys isn't N9 specific20:16
MsquaredI know that, but this problem whereby I can't login with the key might be.20:17
valdur55first, you need archieve login with password20:17
MsquaredI have achieved login with password.  I have been saying this all along.20:17
MsquaredThat was indeed my first step.20:17
MsquaredI'm not getting any information from the N9 to help me with my diagnostics; sshd is not logging anything to secure.log, so I don't know what to do next.20:18
valdur55ok :) But then use: ssh-copy-id -i .ssh/ user@n920:18
MsquaredI've carefully checked the permissions on .ssh/ and authorized_keys, since I know sshd is very picky about that.20:18
valdur55but, can you login to developer ?20:19
MsquaredI used ssh-copy-id and all that did was make a second copy of my ssh key in authorized_keys; this shows me that I've probably done the right thing already.20:19
MsquaredNo, I can't log in to developer.20:19
MsquaredHowever, I had this working before without logging in to developer.20:19
MsquaredMaybe something changed between when I did this before and last week when I had to perform a factory reset.20:20
MsquaredLet me try logging in as developer...20:20
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valdur55Use SDK Connection manager20:20
MsquaredOK, I can now log in via ssh to developer@n920:21
MsquaredI just set the password via passwd developer20:21
MsquaredSDK connection manager?20:21
valdur55:D For password :D20:21
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MsquaredMeh, I've got the password working anyway.  I just overrode it.  :o)20:22
valdur55so.. nevermind. ...  But try archive passwordless login to developer.20:22
MsquaredUmmmm...  when I log in as developer, I'm dropped into / rather than some /home folder.  Is that right?20:23
MsquaredIt won't let me set the user to developer on the folder /home/developer20:24
djszapiN9beford, sup20:25
Msquared(I'm trying as root)20:25
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jabisMsquared: could you please see what the following produces:  cat /etc/passwd | grep /user:/20:27
jabisif you see :!: or :!!: then you won't be able to login via keys20:27
valdur55user:!:29999:29999::/home/user:/bin/sh :P20:28
jabis devel-su -20:28
jabisyour pass20:28
jabispasswd -S -u user20:28
jabisgive new pass20:28
jabisdo that a few times20:29
Msquaredjabis: user:qwertyqwerty:29999:29999::/home/user:/bin/sh20:29
Msquared(note that I changed the password :) )20:29
Piruyep. everything moved to the new phone without issues20:29
Piruwent much smoother than I thought20:30
jabisMsquared, after this: su user -20:30
jabisand passwd again using the user user :)20:30
Msquared~ # su user -20:30
Msquaredsu: can't set groups: Operation not permitted20:31
MsquaredAlso, if I try "passwd -S -u user" then I get the help message20:31
jabiscool - different sh version20:31
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jabiswell: passwd -u user then as devel-su -20:32
MsquaredI'm running PR1.320:32
jabisremember to set the environment (devel-su -)20:32
jabisnot just devel-su20:32
MsquaredOh, I didn't know you could add "-" on devel-su20:33
MsquaredHold on...20:33
valdur55jabis, and what it gives?20:33
MsquaredOh, that's interesting.  When I go "devel-su -" I get "mesg: Operation not permitted" at the end of the login message, and the prompt is different ("RM696-21-3_PR_005:~#")20:34
jabisyeh - the busybox-devel-su component is trying to execute some legacy command at the end of setting the environment (aegis stuff)20:34
Msquared"passwd -S -u user" still gives help message even if I go to root via "devel-su -"20:35
jabisvaldur55, proper environment & elevates some needed perms20:35
jabisMsquared: drop the -S toggle - should be just as good with -u user as args20:35
jabiswhen you've set that one - just drop out of devel-su with ctrl+d to become the user again20:36
jabiswhoami to confirm you're user not root :)20:36
Msquaredjabis: Tried that; the help text goes away, and it says "Password changed." but it still asks for password when I ssh user@n920:36
Msquaredjabis: which command must I run as user?20:37
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jabisplain passwd20:37
MsquaredNope, still asking for password when I ssh.20:38
MsquaredI really need to get sshd to tell me what the hell is going on...20:38
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MsquaredMaybe I can change "SyslogFacility AUTH" in /etc/ssh/sshd_config to something that will cause sshd's messages to show up in /var/log/syslog?  Any idea?20:39
jabisalso check the owner:group of /home/user/.ssh and it's contents user:users20:43
Msquaredjabis: Already done. :)20:45
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MsquaredHow can we troubleshoot Aegis?20:47
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jabisgtg for a bit bb 40min20:52
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MsquaredArgh!  Fixed it!21:01
MsquaredIt was permissions.  *hangs head in shame*21:01
befordon the n9? or the desktop?21:02
MsquaredI checked .ssh and authorized_keys, but didn't check /home/user21:02
MsquaredOn the N921:02
ZogG_laptopdjszapi: send me mail via jabber please21:02
MsquaredI changed "SyslogFacility AUTH" to "SyslogFacility USER" in /etc/ssh/sshd_config and rebooted, and presto!  sshd log entries started showing up in /var/log/syslog21:03
ZogG_laptopbeford: what have you done with pomodoro btw?21:04
befordZogG_laptop: with what? :P I submitted it for the contest21:04
ZogG_laptopwith same name?21:04
MsquaredI have no idea why the syslog instructions at don't work any more, but at least I have a workaround!21:04
befordZogG_laptop: yea, I will probably have to rename it for the Ovi Store21:04
befordI added the "backgroud" message :P21:05
MsquaredOooh, a pomodoro timer for N9?21:05
befordyea, my submission for the coding contests21:05
befordfeedback is welcome :)21:05
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MsquaredInitial feedback: when I click on "resistor color code" in that post, I go to lights off...21:09
MsquaredI like the icons.  I think you could put clock hands on the tomato icon (kind of as if the seeds were minute markers or something)21:10
MsquaredBut that's just me.  :o)21:10
MsquaredOption I'd like: choose the direction that it adds pomodoros/breaks (last on top or last on bottom)21:11
MsquaredI do like the icons.  I instantly knew what each icon was for....21:11
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MsquaredOh hey, it shows up a system alarm icon while a pomodoro or break is counting down.  Neat!21:12
befordyea, its integrated with the system alarms that way you can lock the phone and it will sound21:12
MsquaredAwww.  My N9 just rebooted itself.  :-(21:12
befordI *could* even allow you to shutdown the phone and the alarm should sound according to the documentation but I did not try that21:13
MsquaredHow can I get some debug info to send you to help you out?21:13
befordmm weird it should not reboot anything21:13
befordwhat PR are you using?21:13
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befordI can enable some debug output let me see21:15
MsquaredSure, go ahead.21:16
MsquaredHey, the pomodoro alarm just went off, even though the phone rebooted and the app wasn't running a clock.  Neat!21:16
MsquaredOoooh!  Idea!  When the alarm goes off: instead of the "snooze" button, put break and pomodoro buttons!21:17
befordwell that UI is from system I dont think I can change it, I will have to check the API21:18
MsquaredOh yeah...  Maybe the only way to implement custom buttons is to implement your own alarm class, or something...21:19
djszapiN9beford, sup21:20
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rashm2kIn my app I have a single QML component used across the entire app (a loading screen) - how do I instantiate a single instance of this in QML and use it?21:23
djszapi_rashm2k: instantiate it once21:24
djszapi_and use it21:24
djszapi_inside the main.qml for instance21:24
djszapi_which is loaded from the cpp21:24
Msquaredbeford: When my phone rebooted, it was after I had started a pomodoro, a short break, a pomodoro, and another short break, each less than 30 seconds apart (ie: I didn't let any of them finish before I started another one)21:26
MsquaredI'm trying the same thing again, but it appears to be working fine so far...21:26
rashm2kWill also work with QML pages I load using javascript openFile(....?)21:27
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djszapi_rashm2k: yeah22:13
rashm2kIt doesn't seem to be able to reference it inside a Connection component22:15
rashm2kquick question on QDateTime22:15
ZogG_laptopbeford: i saw thedead14something had it, so u in touch with him?22:16
ZogG_laptopbeford: make the button unselected(pomodoro) at launch as well22:16
rashm2khow I read in a ISO duration into a date time?22:16
rashm2kAnd have this count down in QML?22:17
rashm2ki.e. count down seconds, minutes, hours, days22:17
djszapi_you need to write a parser in javascript22:17
djszapi_for the countdown, you need to timer, one for the second timer, and one for the usual.22:18
djszapi_two timers*22:18
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ZogG_laptopbeford: you are bad23:26
ZogG_laptoppiggz: sup piggz23:26
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ZogG_laptopbeford: you disappear and never answer23:35
befordI changed computers sorry23:35
befordwhat did you ask ZogG_laptop ?23:36
befordI'm on the desktop now, had to start a vm23:36
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ZogG_laptopbeford: why don't you set bouncer or use ssh to use same client?23:37
ZogG_laptopbeford: i saw thedead14something had it, so u in touch with him?23:37
ZogG_laptopbeford: make the button unselected(pomodoro) at launch as well23:37
befordneed to get a server to put a bouncer there23:37
befordwhat happened to thedead?23:38
beforddid the phone reboot too?23:38
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ZogG_laptopreboot waht?23:41
befordnot sure23:41
befordwhat are we talking about23:41
ZogG_laptopwhat phone reboot? and why too?23:41
ZogG_laptopi wonder if you in touch with him23:41
befordoh you mean, thedead has the pomodoro app from ovi store?23:41
ZogG_laptophe has your pomodoro app23:41
ZogG_laptopi saw on screenies23:42
befordah good23:42
ZogG_laptopso i asked if you in touch with him as you gave him to test it before it was released23:42
befordhe owes me 0.99 now23:42
befordno, he probably got it from the thread I suppose23:42
ZogG_laptopwhy would he?23:42
befordfor using my app ? :P23:42
ZogG_laptopyou gonna sell it on ovi?23:43
befordI was kidding :P23:43
ZogG_laptopmake it 0.01 cheaper than other pomodoro23:43
ZogG_laptopwhy not23:43
befordI will publish it but after the contest is over23:43
ZogG_laptopi would put it free to apps4meego and paid to ovi23:43
ZogG_laptopthat's the way to go23:43
ZogG_laptopi don't sell my app in ovi only coz it's shitty and would be unfair. your app seems to be finished23:44
befordthe Msquare guy bought one of my apps after he tested the Pomodoro one :P23:45
ZogG_laptopwhat app?23:47
ZogG_laptopwhat apps you sell23:47
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jpnurmigrrr, hostile qDebug takeover by MComponentData23:49
befordhe bought resistor code, and I have qstardict too23:49
befordoh and a small game23:50
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piggzlo ZogG_laptop23:52
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ZogG_laptopbeford: u sell qstartdict23:56
ZogG_laptopfirsst of all it was closed due license problems stardict i think23:57
ZogG_laptopsecond of all it's stardict23:57
ZogG_laptopand resistor code is yours? the one that shows the colours?23:57
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ZogG_laptoppiggz: how are you?23:58
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piggznot bad :) looking on flea-bay for some shifters for my bike, not much coding tonight!23:58
befordZogG_laptop, stardict was removed from sourceforge for the dictionaries I believe23:59

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