IRC log of #harmattan for Tuesday, 2012-04-24

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Jareare there differences in display modules used in the 16 and 64GB models?00:16
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Jareboth of the 16GB I've seen had a lower contrast especially in the dark end and a yellowish tint00:17
Jarewhen compared to the 64GB00:17
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Jareyup, for example the shade of grey in the availability menu is noticeably darker in the 64GB model00:23
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DocScrutinizeralmost handmade :-D01:02
DocScrutinizerprobably the 16GB display batch got manufactured on a sunny day, and the 64GB batch on a rainy Friday01:05
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teleshoesanyone know if theres a binary package for python-resourcepolicy somewhere?03:22
teleshoesits a python wrapper for libresourceqt03:22
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itsnotabigtruckteleshoes: hm03:36
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itsnotabigtruckteleshoes: where's the source package03:37
teleshoesthis may or may not exist at all03:37
itsnotabigtruckteleshoes: not finding much03:39
itsnotabigtruckbuilding your own deb shouldn't be too hard03:39
teleshoesthis is the sort of thing that really ought to be in dev03:41
teleshoesit will be a dependency of my button monitor03:41
teleshoesso i may have to merge the two projects03:41
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teleshoesi thought people wrote harmattan qt apps in python all the time03:42
itsnotabigtruckteleshoes: oh FFS03:42
itsnotabigtruckpython-resourcepolicy depends on libpyside-dev03:43
itsnotabigtruckwhich is mismatched to libpyside1.003:43
teleshoes{btw, whats ffs?}03:44
itsnotabigtruckfor f__k's sake03:44
teleshoeslife is so hard03:47
teleshoeseff it, i should just write a separate program in c that does nothing but eat the volume buttons03:50
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itsnotabigtruckteleshoes: well, what you could do is grab pyside's source package files from the sdk_sources iso04:01
itsnotabigtruckbuild that04:01
itsnotabigtruckthen build python-resourcepolicy04:01
itsnotabigtruckthen ship python-resourcepolicy04:01
teleshoesand then distribute that04:01
itsnotabigtruckno need to ship the pyside stuff, that's just to get the other to build04:01
teleshoesi could just feel extremely bitter toward nokia04:02
teleshoesand cry about it04:02
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sigmaorionHi there... has anybody managed to connect to a PPTP VPN with N9?04:26
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itsnotabigtruckmight require kernelstuff that isn't there sigmaorion04:44
sigmaorionitsnotabigtruck, you mean ppp support?04:44
sigmaorioncouldn't it be loaded as a module?04:46
sigmaorionI mean, if I could compile it and insert it with insmod, maybe...04:46
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sigmaoriondoen Nokia provides us with full harmattan PR1.2 kernel sources?05:00
CreamyG31338on cd05:00
CreamyG31338but someone upped it to a repo somewhere05:01
CreamyG31338and i think the tar.gz is around too05:01
sigmaorionoh, ok, so those I found as torrents googling around are good ones05:01
sigmaorionthat's cool!05:01
CreamyG31338hahaha ummmm maybe?05:01
sigmaorionwould Nokia send my a copy of that CD/DVD if I require it?05:02
CreamyG31338sure, they sent a few out already05:02
CreamyG31338i think this is the filename : kernel_2.6.32-20115101+0m7.tar.gz05:03
sigmaorionthanks for the info, CreamyG31338!! Do you know how to contact them to make that request?05:04
itsnotabigtrucksigmaorion: there's no need to request it05:04
itsnotabigtruckthe DVD they send out has already been ripped and uploaded05:04
sigmaorionitsnotabigtruck, yeap, sure, you're right05:05
sigmaorionso, it's there, in case I need kernel headers, I can get them to compile any module05:05
itsnotabigtruckor iso download:
itsnotabigtruckas for kernel headers, you can obtain the package by building the kernel package, that takes a while though05:06
itsnotabigtrucki probably ought to upload my built kernel-headers package somewhere05:06
CreamyG31338i upped it somewhere already05:06
itsnotabigtruckoh cool05:06
sigmaorionitsnotabigtruck, cool, a direct link!05:06
itsnotabigtruckhowever, it's problematic to build in-tree modules05:06
CreamyG31338that has 3 more debs since i wasn't sure which is the correct headers05:08
CreamyG31338i suck at linux :P05:08
sigmaorionitsnotabigtruck, if it is problematic then it might be imposible for me, lol! But i'd like to try it anyway05:09
itsnotabigtrucksigmaorion: the problem is that enabling an in-tree module will often make the built module unloadable on the existing kernel05:10
itsnotabigtruckthere has to be something that can be done but i'm not sure what05:10
itsnotabigtruckalso, sometimes enabling a module enables stuff in other parts of the kernel that aren't built as modulesw05:10
sigmaorionhmmm... nice challenge05:11
itsnotabigtruckand the 2nd one is what i think you need05:15
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itsnotabigtrucki'm not sure wtf the 3rd one is05:15
CreamyG31338yeah i dunno i installed all 3 since i wasn't sure05:16
itsnotabigtruckwell, kernel-headers is what you need if you want to build out-of-tree modules, anyway05:17
itsnotabigtruckfor in-tree modules you need the actual kernel source05:17
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sigmaorionsorry, itsnotabigtruck, I had to rush08:22
sigmaorionso, the 2nd link are kernel headers?08:22
sigmaorionI will download it08:22
sigmaoriongotta go, it's pretty late here. Thank you guys, see you later...08:23
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Jeffrey04has anyone tried creating a daemon with python here?08:45
ajalkaneNo, but since it's as easy as creating Upstart launcher script, it should be pretty straightforward08:46
Jeffrey04yea, done that08:46
Jeffrey04the script is started08:46
Jeffrey04but somehow the daemon is not running08:47
ajalkaneIs it text only daemon or does it try to do some UI stuff?08:47
Jeffrey04text only daemon for now08:47
Jeffrey04cos it is very much a proof of concept08:47
ajalkaneUpstarted daemons don't have all the default environment you get when running from command-line. Depending what you try to do in the script it may be a problem08:48
Jeffrey04how do i track the problem?08:49
Jeffrey04because i don't know how to redirect the output as this is my first time writing a daemon :/08:49
Jeffrey04mine is based on this
ajalkaneAh hmm... I think you should not do forking and what not when you Upstart your daemon (?).08:54
Jeffrey04so what's the proper way if I want to do it with python?08:54
ajalkaneI think Upstart takes care of the boring stuff. You just write your application.08:54
ajalkaneHave you tried getting rid of all that forking and daemonizing stuff, and just putting your script (that should not exit) to be started by Upstart?08:55
Jeffrey04not yet08:55
Jeffrey04shouldn't i fork?
ajalkaneI guess if you have in your Upstart configuration the "expect daemon" instruction.08:57
ajalkaneIt just seems unnecessary complex, unless you want your daemon to be compatible with non-Upstart systems08:58
Jeffrey04erm, the daemon is only usable on harmattan lol08:59
ajalkaneYou could write your errors into some file location to debug the issue. At least then you'd know where it goes haywire08:59
ajalkaneIf it's only for harmattan I'd get rid of all that forking business and just do regular script that's running08:59
ajalkaneUpstart will take care of running it in background and restarting it08:59
Jeffrey04trying to, but not too familiar with both python and daemon lol08:59
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DocScrutinizerare you sure it's at least loading your python interpreter?09:13
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DocScrutinizerpython *might* not be available (at all, or in $PATH) during boot time09:14
Jeffrey04the interpreter should be up because the script is able to generate a file in /tmp telling me what pid the daemon is running09:14
Jeffrey04the problem is that, the daemon is not running09:15
DocScrutinizerwhat's your definition of "not running"?09:15
DocScrutinizeris there a process "python"?09:16
DocScrutinizerthen for some reason it exits, no?09:16
Jeffrey04yea, need to find out why it exists09:16
DocScrutinizerredirect all std- and error-output to a file on start,09:17
DocScrutinizerthe classical unix way09:17
DocScrutinizercheck what it does when you start it from commandline09:19
DocScrutinizerif nothing else helps, start it via strace in your upstart script09:20
Jeffrey04is there a man page for that?09:21
Jeffrey04or i need to first install the package?09:21
DocScrutinizerstrace -f -ologfile.txt python mydaemon.py09:21
Jeffrey04do i need to first install a package?09:21
DocScrutinizerstrace is in developer tools somewhere09:21
Jeffrey04-sh: strace: not found09:21
Jeffrey04oh, found it, thanks09:22
Jeffrey04let me try what i can do09:22
Jeffrey04thanks for the help guys09:22
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DocScrutinizerJeffrey04: ^^09:26
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DocScrutinizerI guess you can have a lot of fun with this one ;-D09:29
Jeffrey04probably, is still a bit confused with all the threading/forking involved in Qt :/09:29
DocScrutinizerdon't worry about forking, strace -f takes care of it09:30
DocScrutinizeryou however do NOT want to do the "trace $world" suggestion above :-D09:30
DocScrutinizerit will make something explode - either your device, or your storage, or your brain XP09:31
DocScrutinizeror rather, srace will miss so much of all the traced processes that in the end the trace is bogus09:32
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DocScrutinizerplus, I'm all but sure if Qt is the right toolbox for a daemon09:34
Jeffrey04am trying to use QSystemAlignedTimer here09:35
DocScrutinizerit's probably pretty hard to use Qt in a clean X-free way09:35
Jeffrey04since there's no cron :/09:35
DocScrutinizerhmm, on fremantle we had alarmd for that09:35
CreamyG31337that will work fine09:36
DocScrutinizerdunno about HARM09:36
DocScrutinizeras a general rule, since daemons are running/loaded all the time, you don't want to use libs with much overhead. Even python isn't really suited for a daemon09:37
DocScrutinizersure you can implement a PoC09:38
DocScrutinizerbut in the end you want a daemon as lean as possible09:38
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trupheenixanyone got ideas on how i can get the screen dimensions via QML? i want to place a web view element with fixed width based on the screen.09:39
DocScrutinizer(though this rationale applies to interactive apps as well, it's particularly important for daemons, as you *always* have them eating your RAM, all the time and all of them)09:39
ajalkaneJeffrey04: I'd recommend starting by bare bones. First make a daemon that pretty much writes "hello world" to file every second. If you get that first running, start adding stuff09:41
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Jeffrey04i probably would have to start everything over again09:42
DocScrutinizerand I don't see why you need any sophisticated timer for that, a simple sleep() does the trick, if you don't need realtime sync09:42
Jeffrey04is getting very confused with the multithreading QSystemAlignedTimer introduced09:42
ajalkaneNo, if you get the bare bones version running, you just need to copy-paste stuff into it09:42
ajalkaneQSystemAlignedTimer is supposed to use less battery09:43
Jeffrey04but it introduces multithreading lol09:43
ajalkaneI haven't myself noticed any big difference09:43
DocScrutinizerit has a small difference for timer durations in the sub-second range09:44
Jeffrey04that's cool for me09:44
Jeffrey04not a time critical daemon09:44
DocScrutinizeras it's syncing events to other timers of foreign processes, so CPU doesn't have to awake multiple times09:44
Jeffrey04just need to run a check like once every minute or somehting09:44
Jeffrey04so i should change to a basic sleep()?09:45
DocScrutinizersleep 6009:45
Jeffrey04then the script will be a lot simplified lol09:45
ajalkaneSimple is good09:45
ajalkaneI'd only use QSystemAlignedTimer as a replacement for QTimer. Then the complexity is not any bigger whichever you use09:46
DocScrutinizeras mentioned above I'd by all means try to avoid Qt in daemons09:47
Jeffrey04only used qt for the timer thingy09:48
Jeffrey04and this09:49
Jeffrey04QSystemNetworkInfo().networkStatus(QSystemNetworkInfo.WlanMode) == QSystemNetworkInfo.Connected09:49
DocScrutinizeryou know the terrifying result of a printf "hello world" (50k binary). Try same with Qt, then you know what I meant09:49
DocScrutinizerodds are your python+Qt daemon has a footprint in the tens of MB range in the end09:51
DocScrutinizeralso keep in mind that /usr/* might not be available during early stages of boot09:53
DocScrutinizerso your daemon might not be alowed to use any of what's in there09:53
DocScrutinizerdepending on point in time during init that it's started09:54
infobotoptification is a inventive duct tape workaround to reclaim space in fs root, done due to the fact the systeminit *and* partitioning is FUBAR,,_Deploying_and_Distributing/Installing_under_opt_and_MyDocs, or ""OMG - I wish they looked into FHS and moved /usr to eMMC"", bullet1,2 and fhs-2.3.html#PURPOSE16 dot3"09:54
DocScrutinizerfor a bad example how to mess up with all this09:54
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Jeffrey04no idea what's that all about09:55
Jeffrey04i am a web developer lol09:55
DocScrutinizerit's about fremantle and Nokia not considering the advice I gave above, which is in line with general rules in FHS09:56
DocScrutinizerwhich resulted in a mega mess that still hurts us every single day09:56
DocScrutinizer/usr is to be considered nonexistent during early boot (until mount)09:58
DocScrutinizerthough rather irrelevant for 'apps', any deamon might need to consider that and use according design09:58
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ajalkaneon Harmattan at least the 3rd party daemons are started so late that this is luckily no problem10:05
ajalkaneThey're started something like 1-2 minutes after you get the app grid visible!10:05
ajalkaneWhich of course can cause other kind of problems...10:05
CreamyG31337yeah hopefully you waited long enough before deciding yours isn't running lol10:05
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Jeffrey04yea, waited long enough, :) and the daemon died, not sure what happens10:09
Jeffrey04probably something is wrong in my implementation of qsystemalignedtimer10:09
Jeffrey04i mean, the way i use it10:09
ajalkanebut in that case you should see the problem also when running the script manually from command-line, but this didn't happen right?10:10
Jeffrey04after writing the error to a file, i get this10:11
Jeffrey04QObject: Cannot create children for a parent that is in a different thread.10:11
Jeffrey04a new one10:11
Jeffrey04didn't get this before10:11
Jeffrey04need to check again what went wrong later tonight10:11
DocScrutinizerdon't use Qt and all will be fine :-D10:11
Jeffrey04just changed everything to a simple while loop and sleep10:12
Jeffrey04will see how it goes10:12
trupheenixjonni, hi10:14
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jonnitrupheenix: QML Screen Element has height and width10:27
trupheenixjonni, ok10:28
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khertanComments from the QA team:13:34
khertanFAILED: Linking to an External Store or Website promoting competing products.13:34
khertanSUMMARY: The support website includes links to an external website instead of the Nokia Store.13:34
khertanREQUIREMENT: According to the Nokia Store publisher registration and distribution agreement: “5.4. Non-Compete – You may not use the Program to distribute or make available any Content whose primary purpose is to facilitate the distribution of Content outside of the Program.”13:34
khertanACTUAL RESULT: The support website contains link to external store,
khertanEXPECTED RESULT: Promotion of external storefronts and websites with competing products are not allowed. Links to download the same content or other related content should be linked to the Nokia Store instead of the publisher’s own website or other distribution channels. (public, Moderation in progress -> Qa failed)13:34
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rzrkhertan,  this is no fun13:47
auenfhmm, meecast 'find location via gps' is broken?13:49
rzrkhertan, my app is stuck at the china checkpoint13:50
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khertanrzr: no it s not funny13:58
khertanrzr: but i can understand13:58
rzrexclusivity only applies to the binaries form ?13:59
rzrhave u tested serval ?
khertanrzr: it look like14:00
SpeedEvilCan nokia store actually distribute source?14:00
ajalkaneI don't think Nokia store has any problems that the app is in apps for meego too. You just shouldn't advertise it from support pages that can be reached from the Nokia store version :P14:00
khertans/it/it s14:00
khertanajalkane: exactly, this is what they said, the support page of your app should not promote other binary download14:01
SpeedEvilIt's required to 'advertise' that the program is available in source form - wich would clearly be 'related content'.14:01
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SpeedEvilBut if they're being rational - good.14:01
rzrkhertan, congratz it is fast ?14:02
khertanrzr: it s not in real time :)14:03
khertanrzr: as you can't edit partial content of a TextArea :)14:03
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rzrbtw i noticed you did look at opengles , didnt you ?14:04
khertanThe problem here is that my support page promote the download from Apps4Meego ...14:04
khertanso the fail on QA is perfectly normal14:04
khertanrzr: i ve try to syntax highlight using pygame also ;)14:04
khertanbut lost os integration14:05
khertanso not a good things14:05
rzrredak status :14:05
rzrQA Report overview14:05
rzrFile status: In Progress14:05
rzrItem status: Passed14:05
rzrDistribution in QA14:05
rzrPending 0.4 % Show >>14:05
rzrIn progress 0.0 %14:05
rzrPassed 99.6 % Show >>14:05
rzrFailed 0.0 %14:05
rzrbeen stuck for weeks now14:05
ajalkaneGood old china. My Apps stuck in china too14:05
ajalkaneRelease it, bastards14:05
khertanstrange, it s took 1 days for having KhtSimpleText in ovistore14:05
rzrajalkane, how long ?14:06
khertanrzr: did you have also problem with large text ? ui freeze ?14:08
khertanrzr: until qml text property is filled ?14:09
rzri noticied some weirdness while focus on it to show on screen kb14:09
rzrkhertan, i did not test it that much , it worked on my notes ...14:10
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khertanrzr: héhé ... i m also planning to finish my note taking apps which sync with
khertan <<< demo:demo14:12
khertanit s a nice html14:12
rzrgit ?14:12
khertannotepad apps14:12
khertanthere is no public git of my apps yet14:12
khertanit s broken on too many part to make it public right now14:13
rzri mean do you use git to sync contents ?14:13
khertanno, notes are stored on webserv14:13
khertanand sync is manually written14:13
khertanjson via https post request14:14
rzrlooks good14:14
rzrI wish there is a nodejs port14:15
ajalkanerzr: not weeks... actually I just submitted the app in saturday so I was surprised it's only china blocking it at the moment14:24
ajalkaneUsually china has only blocked for week14:25
* khertan after 15 May, khertan software update will probably be slower than today : Diablo 3 release date :)14:30
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ajalkaneThen try and sort out your sources so that someone can carry on the development while you're sitting in Diablo 3 coma!14:32
ajalkaneWhen you wake up from your slumber, in perhaps 6 months, you can continue from well progressed sources14:32
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Sazpaimon_you know what would be nice17:18
Sazpaimon_a call blocker that responds with a "disconnected or no longer in service" message17:18
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cityLightsI need help, I removed all my email acounts, then added my gmail but I dont see my emails17:52
cityLightsthe email client used to work17:52
cityLightsthen one of the three acounts was closed, and since then I am unable to use email on my N917:52
cityLightsis there a ~/.modest I can remove?17:53
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cityLightsX-Fade: hi there, can you help me with the email client?18:08
cityLightswhere are the files kept? how can I remove them?18:08
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ieatlinti love that the store on the n9 will occasionally tell me it needs to install dependencies when i try to install an app.. but it doesn't tell me what they are20:31
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itsnotabigtruckieatlint: usually it's python or something python related20:46
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ieatlintitsnotabigtruck: i don't think i've installed python that many times :P21:00
ieatlinti'm not really worried, just curious21:00
itsnotabigtruckieatlint: well, it could be various parts of pyside21:01
khertanrzr: qa passed 5 hours ... not bad. waiting that is available in store21:11
ieatlintthe spotify app is pretty decently done21:12
ieatlintfriend convinced me to do their free trial.. i'm disconcerted about the forced facebook integration, but the app definitely was reviewed by some competent QA people, which is a rare blessing21:12
itsnotabigtruckkhertan: how about updating to the latest version21:17
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itsnotabigtruckalso i don't understand wtf nokia thinks they're doing with this no-links-to-other-sites business21:17
itsnotabigtruckit's insane21:17
itsnotabigtruckespecially apps for meego in particular21:17
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djszapianybody using QDeclarativeEngine in here for showing up the main qml ?21:21
djszapihey btw :-)21:21
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itsnotabigtruckdjszapi: you might have more luck with your questions if you just asked straight away21:24
djszapiitsnotabigtruck: that is the question21:25
rm_workhey, anyone know offhand what the SMS database file is called / where it is located?21:27
rm_workis it somewhere in the user directory?21:27
itsnotabigtruckdjszapi: well, does it work?21:27
itsnotabigtruckrm_work: it's in the user directory, i think, mixed in with the tracker stuff21:28
djszapiitsnotabigtruck: I do not understand that question.21:28
itsnotabigtrucknot precisely sure where21:28
itsnotabigtruckdjszapi: QDeclarativeEngine that is21:28
befordrm_work, there is an script on tmo to backup SMSs it could give you an idea21:28
djszapiQDE what is ?21:28
rzrhave u hacked gles a bit ? ?21:28
rm_workbeford: OMFG21:29
itsnotabigtruckalso, how backward compatible is qt5?21:29
rm_workthat is actually what i am trying to do21:29
rm_workwhere is that21:29
befordtmo thread21:29
befordlet me see21:29
itsnotabigtruckdjszapi: "well, does it work?" where it is that class21:29
rm_worki didn't see one last time i checked, SMS history is the only thing keeping me from upgrading my N950 to PR1.2 from whatever beta firmware it shipped with21:29
djszapiitsnotabigtruck: work with what ?21:30
rm_workthanks beford!!21:30
djszapiI am not getting.21:30
djszapihmm, beford hi :)21:30
djszapibeford: would need some Mac testing.21:30
befordhey djszapi21:31
itsnotabigtruckdjszapi: well, you're probably asking about QDeclarativeEngine because you want to use it on harmattan or are having trouble doing so21:31
itsnotabigtruckotherwise, not sure why you're asking here...21:31
itsnotabigtruckmy question really isn't very cryptic21:31
itsnotabigtruckanyway, minetest = irrlicht21:31
itsnotabigtruckso if irrlicht does opengl es, it might be a go21:32
djszapiitsnotabigtruck: not getting what you mean really.21:32
rzrIICR it does21:32
djszapiQDE is obviously for qml stuff, asking for example21:32
djszapiwhat is the problem ?21:32
rzritsnotabigtruck, but how comes the pvr blob is not in obs ?21:32
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itsnotabigtruckrzr: the pvr blob?21:33
itsnotabigtruckdid you put a buildep on that?21:33
rzrwhen i tried yes21:34
itsnotabigtruckif it's in the harmattan-dev repo, obs should be able to find it21:34
rzri am not sure it is present21:34
itsnotabigtruckand i expect you're well aware of how much of a stickler about build dependencies OBS is21:34
itsnotabigtrucki've had to rev some of my packages over and over and over due to missing build dependencies21:34
itsnotabigtruckrzr: so what happens if you put that package in your buildeps21:36
itsnotabigtruckis it unresolvable or does it build21:36
itsnotabigtruckgot a link to the package page?21:36
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itsnotabigtrucklooks like there's a link in the fmc post21:37
rzrno dsc though :)21:37
itsnotabigtruckBuild-Depends: debhelper (>= 5.0.42), libvorbis-dev, libsdl1.2-dev, libsdl-ttf2.0-dev, libpng12-dev, opengles-sgx-img-common-dev [arm armel]21:37
itsnotabigtruck^ i think that [arm armel] is confusing OBS21:38
djszapiyes, it does21:38
itsnotabigtrucksince the dependency isn't architecture-dependent anyway, it shouldn't be marked as such21:38
djszapiremove that.21:38
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itsnotabigtruck(it's hardware dependent, but you could have powervr on i386 or any other arch too)21:38
itsnotabigtruckoh btw, are the people working on debian chroot setups using debian's new armhf architecture?21:39
rzrwhat i tested21:39
itsnotabigtrucki think armhf is equivalent to harmattan's idea of armel21:40
itsnotabigtruck(hf = hard float armv7)21:40
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cityLightshow to remove all email files?21:41
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cityLightsI removed the acounts in the manager , then re entered my gmail21:41
cityLightsbut it doesnt sync21:41
cityLightsI can't get my emails on the N921:41
cityLightsis there a ~/.modest I can remove?21:41
befordI remember itsnotabigtruck giving a command to do something like that, check on the logs of the channel and/or ask hime21:42
befordfound it21:43
befordit will remove all the accounts I believe21:43
cityLightssweet thanks21:43
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cityLightspiggz_: haya21:44
itsnotabigtrucki don't know if that'll do what you want21:49
itsnotabigtruckcityLights ^ also, the n9 doesn't run modest21:49
itsnotabigtruckthe new client is called fenix, if that helps you find anything21:50
cityLightsyes I found it using top21:50
itsnotabigtruckconnected via wifi tether now because this cafe's wifi is a POS21:51
itsnotabigtruckok, so rzr: first, your package wasn't unresolvable like you said21:51
itsnotabigtruckwere it unresolvable it wouldn't have started building and wouldn't have a log21:51
itsnotabigtruckalso, it looks like it has the same issue21:51
itsnotabigtruckBuild-Depends: debhelper (>= 5), libx11-dev, libsdl1.2-dev, libgles2-dev [i386], opengles-sgx-img-common-dev [armel]21:51
itsnotabigtruckprobably best off just changing that to opengles-sgx-img-common-dev21:52
rigohey itsnotabigtruck, just saying hello, unfortunately too busy ...21:52
itsnotabigtruckeven better would be to get obs working properly :p21:52
itsnotabigtruckhey rigo21:52
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itsnotabigtruckbtw #inception, you guys should get in there :p21:55
piggz_lo cityLights22:02
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DocScrutinizerhi javispedro23:11
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javispedromoo DocScrutinizer23:13
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