IRC log of #harmattan for Sunday, 2012-04-15

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rZritsnotabigtruck, are you around ?01:36
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itsnotabigtruckrzr: sort of01:50
itsnotabigtruckwhat's up01:50
rZri guess you're famillar w/ sillyboot01:57
rZri think there is a mistake on : http://forum.nitdroid.com/index.php?topic=241.001:58
rZrstep2 should go after step601:58
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MohammadAGif you feel like ditching the stock facebook client: http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=8362803:44
itsnotabigtruckMohammadAG: cool04:02
itsnotabigtruckgoing to appsformeego it?04:03
itsnotabigtrucki mean, it's still beta, but it's also probably more polished than a lot of the stuff that's already in there, so might as well04:03
MohammadAGitsnotabigtruck: Not sure what the procedure is04:37
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itsnotabigtruckMohammadAG: shouldn't you already know about such things? anyway, make a source package (dsc/tar.gz), upload it to your COBS home project, then submit it to the appsformeego repo08:14
itsnotabigtruckthen a bot checks if it's considered legit, then transfers it into the testing area and publishes a page fo rit08:15
itsnotabigtrucki omitted a lot of the complexities there but it's not that bad08:15
itsnotabigtruckalso i think user/internet might be a better section than user/network08:16
itsnotabigtruckin any case the section must be in this list http://wiki.meego.com/MeeGo_Apps/Packaging08:16
itsnotabigtruckoh yeah, you need to add screenshots and a thumbnail too08:16
itsnotabigtruckthat page talks about that also08:17
bef0rdhi08:35
itsnotabigtruckbef0rd: 'sup08:36
itsnotabigtruckarg, the flashlight key in deus ex is the same as the default screenshot key in steam08:36
bef0rdhey itsnotabigtruck, not much, doing some college stuff08:37
ZogG_laptopmorning08:45
bef0rdhi ZogG_laptop08:49
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MasterZapso for those who remember my exchange server issue from yesterday, it turns out it's a manifestation of the "account database gets corrupted" bug.... and I now have a hard time to restore my phone to a working state.10:29
MasterZapI'm back to "almost working" except it keeps asking for passwords for everything again and again (which is the "simple" manifestation of the account database corruption bug)10:29
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MasterZapSo at least my account database is less corrupted now :)10:29
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MasterZapI probably have to reflash re-do and not re-read any backups, it seems.10:30
MasterZapWhich is annoying to say the least :)10:31
itsnotabigtruckMasterZap: try10:36
itsnotabigtruckcd ~user10:36
itsnotabigtruckfind .accounts .signon -type f -print0 | xargs -0 rm -f10:37
itsnotabigtruckthen reboot10:37
itsnotabigtrucki think that command should wipe out the accounts/signon databases10:37
itsnotabigtruck(haven't actually tested it though)10:37
MasterZaphah, slight dubiousity to trying anything with rm -f in it but... I'll consider it :)10:38
itsnotabigtrucklol10:38
MasterZapif the alternative is the whole wipe/redo dance, It can't really hurt, can it? (Well it can, but...)10:38
itsnotabigtruckwell, change the rm -f to echo and see if it looks right10:38
MasterZapi was gonna say just that.10:38
MasterZapI'll give it a whirl. Would be spiffy if that would fix it. The problem seems to affect my contacts list as well for some unknown reason; it can't get facebook contacts into the list, and that means no pictures appear.... oddness.10:40
MasterZapthanks for the tip either way10:40
MasterZapI tried the echo, and even as root there is a permission denied for .signon/private ... hmmm10:46
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itsnotabigtruckMasterZap: that's because it's a mount point10:56
itsnotabigtruckalso you should do it either as user, or from opensh10:56
itsnotabigtrucknot as root without special permissions10:56
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itsnotabigtruckon a normal linux system being root gives you special capabilities beyond just being the root user, on harmattan that isn't the case10:57
MasterZapah, good poitn10:57
MasterZappoint10:57
itsnotabigtrucki.e. the capabilities and the user id are separate things10:57
itsnotabigtruckopensh gives you both root and the capabilities10:57
itsnotabigtruckotherwise you can't delete things that aren't root owned or world writable10:58
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MasterZapI must have missed, what is opensh? Where do I get it?10:58
itsnotabigtruckalso the point of the find command was to skip directories10:58
itsnotabigtrucklike mount points10:58
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itsnotabigtruckhowever...you probably can't touch .signon/private unless you're in opensh10:58
itsnotabigtruckbetter use opensh, i should have mentioned that10:58
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itsnotabigtruckalso, look up INCEPTION10:59
itsnotabigtruckoh yeah, i put in an infobot entry10:59
itsnotabigtruck~inception10:59
itsnotabigtruckexcept infobot is gone, ol10:59
itsnotabigtruckhttps://endno.de/~itsnotabigtruck/inception/ < that10:59
itsnotabigtruckinstall and enable inception, then use it to incept opensh, which lets you open an all-access shell10:59
MasterZapnice11:00
MasterZapI will try that. Perhaps not immediately (life is throwing me curveballs at the moment, like doing taxes ;) )11:00
itsnotabigtruckhm, if you're in the us, you should grab ad-hac also11:00
MasterZapI'm not in the us, Sweden.11:01
itsnotabigtruckah, assumed you were referring to the us tax day coming up (apr 17)11:01
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MasterZapNo, it's the Swedish tax day, May 2:nd, but I'm on a business trip soon so I better get it out of the way. Plus I have a small company meaning it's a bit more complicated than for mere mortals :)11:02
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itsnotabigtruckheh11:02
MasterZapOn a totally different topic; One thing I always loved on my N900 was if I click an mp3 link, I got the choice "Download or Stream". I don't get that in the N9(50), is there some plugin/fix/tool/helper/addon/recompile/anything?11:02
MasterZap[I'm still a bit sad I broke my N900 even though I have the N950, it simply did some things better :( ]11:03
MasterZapScrew taxes. My phone is now Incepted and Opensh installed :)11:15
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MasterZapitsnotabigtruck's fix seems to have saved my phone! Yay. I think. So far. :)12:23
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MohammadAGAnyone good at RE?12:36
MohammadAGneed some headers for libsvideowidget12:38
MohammadAGlibvsvideowidget*12:38
MohammadAGquite a powerful video widget used by the internal video player12:38
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MohammadAGhere's what I got till now http://pastebin.com/K7pVH5W712:56
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DocScrutinizerMasterZap: some?13:06
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DocScrutinizerMasterZap: I got the choice here, from N900 (3), N950 (1), N8 (1), hooker800 (1). Guess what I use and what I never even touch13:08
DocScrutinizers/N8/N9/13:08
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DocScrutinizeractually I use my N810 (2) more frequently than N950/N913:09
DocScrutinizerway less hostile13:10
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DocScrutinizerHARM is no fun to use13:10
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DocScrutinizer75%..90% of what I wanna do turns out to be a) completely forbidden by paegis, or b) I'd have to jump kinky hoops to get there13:12
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DocScrutinizeradd to that the formfactor at large that never appealed to me13:13
DocScrutinizerplus the GUI concept that I despise13:14
DocScrutinizerplus for N950 it's like 10E9 times more impossible (even if that's not a valid comparative) to get any spare parts, than for N90013:16
DocScrutinizerif I could bear with the vkbd of N9, it could at least gain points for availability... but no hw kbd, no ext storage? meh!13:18
DocScrutinizerok, already too much trolling13:19
MohammadAGhooker800?13:19
faenilanyone who can help me troubleshoot list scrolling performance issue in qml?13:19
DocScrutinizerlumia800, if you prefer the spanish term13:19
faenilI've got 2 lists scrolling smoothly, and another one with 6 items which lags13:19
faenilwhich uses folderlistitem + listitems13:20
MohammadAGyay segfaults13:21
MohammadAGObj-C makes this shit look so easy13:21
DocScrutinizerhehe13:21
MohammadAGseriously, why doesn't nokia provide headers for this13:22
MohammadAGit seems like a good library for video playback13:22
DocScrutinizerwhy does Nokia provide anything?13:22
MohammadAGvoid VSVideoWidgetPrivate::loadRenderer() Null renderer13:22
MohammadAGSegmentation fault13:22
MohammadAGneed to figure out how to pass a renderer13:22
DocScrutinizerhow comes you touch objective C now?13:23
faenilhe owns lots of apple things13:23
MohammadAGthis is C++13:23
MohammadAGObj-C classes can be dumped easily, they're textual13:24
MohammadAGno mangled names, etc13:24
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DocScrutinizerI know13:24
MohammadAGand yeah, iOS13:24
DocScrutinizerI used objC some decades ago, on NeXT13:24
faenilI hate when I get scrolling issues...my app is smooth on Android (with Qt) and lags on QNX (with Qt)...damnit13:24
DocScrutinizerso the origin of where your fruit objC came from13:25
MohammadAGI hate QML, it's random13:26
MohammadAGI wonder which subclasses which13:27
MohammadAG_ZN13VSVideoWidget21setOutputRectOverrideEb13:27
MohammadAG_ZN17VSVideoWidgetView21setOutputRectOverrideEb13:27
DocScrutinizerhah13:28
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MohammadAGI remember qwerty12 doing this for timezone-widget on fremantle13:30
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NielDKhello :)13:32
MohammadAGhi13:34
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rainistoitsnotabigtruck: your flashing guide is missing section for cold-flashing instructions.14:13
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faenilhey guys how can I use images from qt components?14:48
faenillike qtg_graf_drill_down_indicator14:48
faenilin qml14:48
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bindiso, are the earplugs that come with N9 complete shit, or is it just my (other) phone that can't play low tones at all?16:17
Aardbindi: which version do you have, the one with one button, or the one with player controls?16:19
bindiplayer controls16:19
Aarddidn't test those, don't like in-ear headphones16:19
bindime neither but don't have anything else :<16:19
Aardmy n9 came with the 'normal' headphones, which are quite acceptable for the included headphones, so no match for my sennheiser ones16:20
binditried some dubstep, no go16:22
bindijust no low tones16:22
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x29aAard: pmx60?17:03
Aardx29a: no, small thingies17:05
x29aah17:05
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divanhi all. any good howto on how to prepare pyside app for OVI?17:07
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itsnotabigtruckoh no :|22:06
itsnotabigtruckturns out that doing --flash-only=rootfs triggers open mode on PR1.2+22:06
itsnotabigtruckeven if it's the stock rootfs on a device already in closed mode22:07
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itsnotabigtrucki find the whole arrangement with the N9 looking up your nokia account by your IMEI a little disturbing22:14
rainistoyou mean IMSI?22:17
itsnotabigtruckrainisto: i'm assuming it uses the IMEI22:18
itsnotabigtruckusing the IMSI instead would be a bit more disturbing22:18
rainistoI always tough that it uses imsi, since if you move your sim to another device, you dont have to enter ovi details.22:18
rainistobut ofcourse it can use both :)22:19
itsnotabigtruckso if you boot up N9 #1 with a given SIM and log into your nokia account, then power it down and move the SIM to N9 #2 and boot it up, it'll know your username and just prompt for the password?22:19
rainistowell I dont have clean devices to test it currently, so no idea if it uses imsi or imei.22:20
itsnotabigtruckhm, when did updates for real golf / ap mobile / accuweather show up on the apps repo22:20
itsnotabigtrucklooks like they got bumped to m8 versions22:20
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rainistothey have been in apps repo all the time agaik, just not updated so often :)22:21
rainistoafaik even22:21
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itsnotabigtruckrainisto: "updates for"22:23
itsnotabigtruckuntil recently they were on m722:24
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