IRC log of #harmattan for Saturday, 2012-02-18

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Burner_is phone UI closed or opensource? I wonder that is it possible to make feature what do http request from server on each incoming call and when server responds it add information to incoming call window. Naturally if htt timeouts it just work same way than normally.01:04
dm8tbrBurner_: ui is closed, but you can get that information about incoming calls01:07
dm8tbrBurner_: I doubt you'll manage to display something in the call window01:07
dm8tbrBurner_: you might manage to show a popup message in the top bar or open a application in the background01:08
Burner_yep. on android there is many kind softwares like "enidroid" what shows caller info from external source with popup. But popup with call window is allways littile buggy solution01:09
Burner_some kind api for extra info on call screen would be more smooth solution but world is not perfect :)01:16
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djszapiWhat do I do wrong ? The Column is not vertically in the middle for the landscape mode :/ http://paste.xinu.at/JmdnS/06:26
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itsnotabigtruckdjszapi: do you ever sleep, at all? :O06:45
djszapiitsnotabigtruck: please keep on topic :P06:45
itsnotabigtrucki'm going to take that as a no06:48
djszapiif that makes you feel happy, please do :D06:49
befordisn't it early in .fi?06:56
djszapidepends on the life style of a person, I guess.06:58
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djszapiany ideas for the vertical center issue ?07:23
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Sazpaimondjszapi, when you're done with kanagram any chance you could do that steam chat thing :307:43
Sazpaimonor at least get me a base that I can work on07:43
Sazpaimoni cannot figure out telepathy and accounts for the life of me07:44
djszapinot really, the next one is khangman07:44
Sazpaimon:(07:45
Sazpaimonnot even just a bare project with stubs?07:45
djszapino, and then qt5 and kde frameworks tasks, sorry07:45
djszapimy backlog is already very long07:45
Sazpaimonwell youre the only one I know that knows anything about telepathy07:45
Tronicitsnotabigtruck: You know, with modafinil one can remove the need to sleep entirely.07:51
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djszapiI cannot apparently put a Column into the vertical Center of a page :(08:18
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itsnotabigtruckSazpaimon: you could clone an existing connection manager and gut everything out08:52
itsnotabigtruckthough that might not be the easiest way to start the project08:52
itsnotabigtrucki'm not telepathic either but it it ought to be possible for you to sort it out08:53
djszapidoes one havethe vkb soundeffect by off-hand ? The one for pressing a key.08:54
itsnotabigtruckcan't you figure out where the wav file is and load it?08:55
djszapiif I could I would already do that.08:57
djszapiok figured out08:58
djszapihttp://www.danitxu.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/feo.jpg -> nice picture. :)08:59
djszapiwell, I cannot figure out the vkb sound effect.09:07
djszapiah it is the sliding file.09:12
djszapiHow can I get my button resized if I change the text to a longer one, like this ? http://paste.xinu.at/bW1CA/09:26
djszapiPlay Game -> Resume Game.09:26
djszapihttp://harmattan-dev.nokia.com/docs/library/html/qt4/qml-text.html?tab=1#elide-prop -> something like this, I guess.09:37
itsnotabigtruckcrap, it's almost 2am already09:39
djszapiwell, the volunteer day begins soon09:41
itsnotabigtrucki just realized i didn't say this before so ^ grats on getting your game into the store09:41
djszapithanks, update coming tomorrow :)09:41
djszapiwith a much better UX09:41
djszapiinteresting I cannot use the same theme url syntax for the platform sounds as in case of the platform icons.09:44
* djszapi begins patching Qt Mobility.09:46
itsnotabigtruckhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gpZbQfTrXMA09:59
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ZogG_laptope-yes: captcha on nitdroid forums is horrible but letters are all the same all the time13:30
djszapierr...seriously, is it possible to have a page with a column inside resiging horizontically and vertically in the middle ?13:40
e-yesZogG_laptop, they aren't13:54
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e-yesZogG_laptop, but sometimes after F5 it's the same, yeah14:14
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ZogG_laptope-yes: all i tried are the same14:22
ZogG_laptope-yes: not sure if it sents email btw14:22
ZogG_laptopi still didn't get registration email =(14:23
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e-yesfucking gmail14:37
e-yesthey mark all outgoing mails as spam14:37
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ZogG_laptope-yes: not in spam14:49
e-yesthey mark it in MY mailbox14:54
e-yeshttp://support.google.com/mail/bin/answer.py?hl=ru&answer=6958514:56
ZogG_laptopcan you approve me14:57
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e-yesZogG_laptop, I activated your account15:06
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e-yesZogG_laptop, could you check your email, pls15:22
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Venemo_N950hm16:16
djszapifaenil: Venemo_N950 rzr o/16:17
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faenilo/ djszapi16:26
djszapifaenil: Venemo_N950 do you know how put a column into the middle of a page (vertically) ?16:27
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faenilanchors.verticalCenter? :O16:29
djszapidid not work for me.16:30
faenilit should...code snippet?16:30
djszapihttps://projects.kde.org/projects/kde/kdeedu/kanagram/repository/revisions/master/entry/src/harmattan/MainPage.qml16:31
faenilyou're specifying both fill and verticalcenter...16:31
djszapiyep, I am trying everything16:32
djszapistarted without fill for sure.16:32
djszapieven tried with a rectangle container, or container for the buttons, like Item.16:33
djszapiI just cannot get it work :/16:33
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faenilwith fill and center it won't work, for sure16:33
djszapithat is not really the problem, go on :)16:33
djszapiconsider the fill is not there, and still does not work.16:34
faeniljust try anchors.centerIn: parent16:34
faeniland see if it gets centered in the page16:34
faenildelete all other anchors16:34
djszapitried that too this morning16:35
djszapithat was my first try.16:35
djszapibecause my idea isto get it horizontically and vertically in the middle.16:36
faenilhave you tried clean all?16:36
djszapiall the buttons.16:36
djszapiclean all ?16:36
faenilmaybe it's not deploying the latest qml16:36
faenilclean all, then run qmake16:36
faenilthen run :)16:36
faenilor cmake16:36
djszapiit is qml ...16:36
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faenilI know but you never know...it happened that the correct qml was not being deployed...16:37
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djszapiI edit it onthe device fyi16:37
faeniloh ok16:38
faenilthen try specifying width and height of the page16:38
faenilit could be getting weird info about the page16:38
djszapiheh it now works.16:38
faenil:)16:38
faenilwhat made it work?16:38
djszapia lot of pray to the Godhead. :)16:39
faenillol16:39
faenilno come on16:39
faenil:D16:39
djszapialso, there is thingy issue here ... so that if I change the button text to a longer stuff, it gets ellided, so why not auto-size calculation ? No ellide is the default for the text by the way.16:39
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djszapitried childrenRect, too16:41
djszapifaenil: ^16:42
faenilI don't know what ellide means, let me look it up :D16:42
djszapicropped text16:43
djszapi"faenil" -> "faen.."16:43
itsnotabigtruck*elide, not ellide, i think16:43
faeniloh right16:44
faenilyes elide16:44
itsnotabigtruckthough i wouldn't call that elision...16:44
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djszapicheck out the text man.16:44
faenilyes I got it djszapi16:44
itsnotabigtruckelision's almost the opposite of truncation16:44
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djszapifaenil: so for instance, if I change "Play Game" to "Resume Game", it occurs.16:45
faenilyou see Resume Ga.." right16:45
djszapiyep16:45
itsnotabigtruckdjszapi: can't you just make your buttons wider?16:45
djszapiitsnotabigtruck: it is not me calculating a hard coded size, so the answer is "no".16:46
itsnotabigtruckthen calculate a hardcoded size and put it in :D16:46
* djszapi is checking out the Button code whether they change the elide trail.16:46
faenilmaybe you need to set Wrapmode once you've set noElide16:47
djszapielide: Text.ElideRight16:47
djszapidamn them16:47
itsnotabigtruckyou're probably going to say that's an l20n problem, but it could be fixed up if there ever actually end up being localizations, and replaced with some code that measures both play game and resume game and picks the larger width16:47
faeniloh so you have a button, not text :P16:47
djszapiyes, that is what have discussed16:48
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djszapiapparently they do not propagate it to the public API either16:48
djszapisounds like a feature patch from me.16:48
faenilright I didn't read it was button text16:48
djszapiso I cannot change this feature of the button :/16:48
faenilthat sucks16:49
djszapinotthat it ever gets released, but still16:49
faenilso you can't have multiline buttons16:49
faenilcould be an implementation choice actually...16:49
itsnotabigtruckthis kinda stuff is why qt's excessive implementation hiding is evil16:49
djszapiok patch done, putting it to gitorious for a MR16:50
itsnotabigtruckmaking the pImpl public and accessing it through the private headers would solve so many edge case problems16:50
djszapi" Play Game "16:50
djszapiworkaround ^^16:50
itsnotabigtrucki mean, only if you know wtf you're doing, but right now things break if you want to do anything weird16:50
itsnotabigtruckand heh16:50
itsnotabigtruckthat's even worse than the hardcoded width...16:50
djszapidoes not work for translation.16:51
itsnotabigtruckneither does ^16:51
djszapibut since I do not support it16:51
djszapiit is not an issue to me.16:51
itsnotabigtruckit relies on  "resume game" only being a tiny bit wider than "play game"16:51
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Venemo_N950hey guys16:52
* djszapi has soon almost the whole qt-components' local copy (patched version) in place.16:52
Venemo_N950djszapi, the refactored irc-chatter is now in a working state :)16:53
djszapiitsnotabigtruck: which it is16:53
djszapiso I do not see a problem16:53
djszapiVenemo_N950: good :)16:53
itsnotabigtruckdjszapi: so it's no better of a solution than just fixing the width16:53
itsnotabigtruckbut a bit more hacky16:54
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djszapinot really16:54
djszapibecause with my way it is not hard coded16:54
Venemo_N950djszapi, I still need to fix a couple of bugs and then I'll make a new release16:54
djszapiso it can be checked on the desktop if someone wishes and the like.16:54
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djszapifaenil: oopsie, ButtonStyle might be capable to override the elide trail.16:56
faenilmmm, good :D16:56
itsnotabigtruckdjszapi: erm, yeah, you're just hiding the hardcoding16:58
itsnotabigtruckstubbornness...>_>16:58
djszapiwoke up for arguing ?16:59
djszapiI am not a partner in that sorry :)16:59
faenildjszapi: but there's no elide property in button style..16:59
djszapithat is what I was checking in the source code.17:00
djszapimy internet has half a min lag right now to type here something.17:00
djszapiI even tried it out actually, and it does not really work17:00
djszapiwell, this is a fail they did not expose it.17:01
faenilyeah...17:03
djszapithey did not expose the textMode either.17:05
faenil-.-17:06
djszapiand this is the exact reason why I said previously exposing a full embedded component nicely is very important17:06
djszapiwhen nobody understood17:06
djszapibecause if that is viable, there is no situation, like "oopsie, something is not exposed, and cumbersome to hack around".17:07
faenilyeah17:07
faenilit's neeeded17:07
djszapiand you cannot .. just do that in qml1.17:07
faenilbut you can in qml2?17:08
djszapino17:09
djszapiafaiu17:09
djszapiwell ... you can do ways, but none of them are nice.17:09
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djszapiinteresting, I cannot pass a margin to Flickable, nor to Column ?17:41
faenil??17:48
djszapiwell if you have a flickable page and you wanna have margins17:49
djszapiyou need to make a container.17:49
faenilmargins on what17:49
djszapianything seriously.17:50
djszapifor instance a settings page.17:50
faenilplease describe a complete example17:50
djszapiyou do not really wanna draw the elements from 0-85417:50
djszapiComplete: open up almost any application, but for instance settings17:50
djszapiit is a problem when you have a rectangle in the page for getting black background for otherwise a pagewindowstack having a png image as background.17:51
djszapilong story short: Flickable does not respect the margin settings.17:52
djszapinor does Column.17:52
trxplace the items in a rect, and set the margins17:52
trxwhats the problem with that?17:52
djszapino need for rect17:52
djszapia simple item is enough for working around, but I was not talking about the workaround, but the limitation.17:53
trxafaik, Flickable is not a visual component17:53
djszapiwhich is serious imo.17:53
trxit should not have visual margins17:53
faenilflickable needs a children item17:53
djszapibut the content is17:53
faenilyeah17:53
trxso you set margins to the content17:53
djszapiright, and you cannot set up the content margin.17:53
djszapithat is the point, I cannot.17:54
faenillet me understand correctly17:54
faenilyou have a flickable17:54
djszapithat is why it is serious.17:54
faeniland put a page inside it?17:54
trxno, its not17:54
djszapiit is not serious to set up a margin for content ? LOL17:54
djszapifaenil: sort of, yes and no17:54
trxPage - Rect(with margins) - Flickable - content17:54
djszapiit is yet another limitation why I need to hack around17:54
djszapitrx: and that is hack17:54
djszapiand I already said I did that even if Rectangle is quite useless17:55
djszapiItem is enough17:55
trxits not a hack as Flickable is not a visual component17:55
djszapibut the content /is/17:55
trxyeah, item or whatever, i just gave an example17:55
trxi dont understand the problem17:55
faenilI'm sorry but I don't understand what you need the margins for, can't make a picture in my mind, can't help17:56
djszapiheh, no sorry, if you do not understand nvm.17:56
djszapiI need to move on.17:56
faenilthen move on :)17:56
trxgood luck :)17:56
djszapiI would expect Column respecting the margin.17:57
djszapiwithout having any explicit Item.17:57
djszapiProper fix would be to fixthe qt-component limitation about the background management for PageStackWindow/Page.17:58
djszapibecause then I could set the page margin, but in this special case, I just simply cannot.17:59
djszapiI need yet another useless container item17:59
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djszapifaenil: code is here, representing the issue: https://projects.kde.org/projects/kde/kdeedu/kanagram/repository/revisions/master/entry/src/harmattan/MainSettingsPage.qml18:00
djszapifaenil: screenshot: http://minus.com/mcnkbnHPH#118:02
faenildjszapi: giving a look at it now ;)18:11
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faenilthe sound switch goes offscreen? :O18:11
djszapiyes18:13
djszapibut that is a simple fix18:15
faenilit seems that page is wider than the real screen..18:18
faenilall separators go offscreen too18:18
djszapiyes, but again, do not hijack :)18:19
faenilok so what's the problem? :)18:19
djszapilook at the qml18:19
faenilI am18:19
djszapiI have an "Item"18:19
faenilfor the switch thing?18:19
djszapinope18:20
djszapifor the Flickable thingy18:20
djszapiand I would not need that ideally, just margins for the "Page".18:20
faenilyou mean the parent of the flickable?18:20
djszapibut since I need to have a Rectangle for exceedingn the limitation of qt-components18:20
djszapiI have this hackish Item18:20
djszapiyup18:20
faenilso Flickable { anchors.fill:parent; margins:10 , WITHOUT specifying width and height doesn't work?18:21
djszapifaenil: I think why the right side is out is because of the margins.18:21
djszapifaenil: nope.18:22
faenilmmm18:22
faenillet me make some attempts18:23
djszapifaenil: you think Flickable respects the margins with filling the parent in ?18:24
faenildon't know,18:25
faenilI'm trying some thigns18:25
djszapiand if I set margins, the flickable thingy puts the right side out :/18:25
faenilmmm18:26
faenilI'll copy here, because it's really short18:26
faenilPage {18:26
faenil    tools: commonTools18:26
faenil    Flickable{18:26
faenil        anchors.fill: parent18:26
faenil        anchors.margins: 2018:26
faenil        Rectangle{18:26
faenil            anchors.fill:parent18:26
faenil            color:"blue"18:27
faenil        }18:27
faenil    }18:27
faenil}18:27
faenilthat works... I mean the rectangle is centered with 20 margin18:27
djszapiokay, so it seems there is no need for such a hackery aforementioned.18:27
djszapiI just need to figure out why it does not work here.18:28
faenilyeah18:28
djszapialso, I am not sure how to fix the right side issue nicely.18:28
djszapiof course I could subtractthe margin manually ...18:28
djszapibut that is not nice18:28
djszapiprobably still the best.18:29
faenil:) dunno actually18:29
djszapialso, please do not paste here above 3 lines :)18:30
djszapisince you start, everybody could ask this for being fair :P18:30
faenil:D18:30
faenilI guess it's because you're using margins in Item,18:31
faenilbut then using width: parent.width and height:parent.height in the Flickable18:32
faenilso it doesn't take margins into account18:32
djszapifaenil: I frankly think Column should respect the margins settings too18:33
faenilyou should set Flickable to anchors.fill:parent18:33
faeniland column as width: flickable.width18:33
faenilthat way it should work18:33
djszapiit is done in the local version18:33
djszapibut did not commit since it did not work so far18:34
faenilok...then I don't know should need to try :)18:34
faenilI'll keep working on the thesis now :)18:34
faenilreboot18:36
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faenildjszapi: is there any way to recover a kde paste (paste.kde.org) that has been deleted?19:02
djszapiyou mean expired ?19:02
faenilhttp://paste.kde.org/206180/19:02
djszapiit was deleted or expired ?19:05
djszapiI do not think they delete it explicitely.19:06
faenilI don't know..19:06
djszapiin any case, #kde-sysadmin19:10
faenilok19:10
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Sazpaimoncan python telepathy plugins be submitted to the nokia store19:47
djszapiwhy not ?19:49
djszapiThere are already plugins in ovi store.19:49
Sazpaimonyes but telepathy-python isnt instealled by default19:49
Sazpaimonif I include it as a dependancy will the store app figure that out?19:50
djszapicheck whether you can fetch it from the apps repository.19:51
djszapiif you can, it works, otherwise nope.19:51
Sazpaimonit installs python-central python-dbus python-telepathy from the maemo nokia repository19:52
Sazpaimonso I guess it should work19:53
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itsnotabigtruckSazpaimon: my understanding is that anything in the main repo is in-limits19:54
Sazpaimonand i suppose the way to package plugins is to package in the accounts plugin and the telapathy plugin in a single deb19:54
itsnotabigtrucki.e. can you install it with pkgmgr install-file -f on a phone with the main default repo19:54
itsnotabigtruckonly19:55
djszapiSazpaimon: iow, if you can install it without adding further reposiroties19:55
djszapiit works.19:55
itsnotabigtruckif it requires additional non-main-repo packages then it's off-limits19:55
Sazpaimonrather than have a seperate account plugin and telepathy plugin ala maemo19:55
SazpaimonI know extraplugins actually packages with it all of libpurple19:56
djszapiyeah, package it into one19:56
djszapisimpler to distribute19:56
Sazpaimonyeah19:57
Sazpaimonit just makes the filesystem more of a mess in the end19:57
Sazpaimoni guess its no worse than maemo 5's distaster of an /opt partition19:57
Sazpaimonbut that could easily be automated in the build process thanks to optify19:58
itsnotabigtruckif you don't mind staying out of the ovi store, you could partition everything in the proper way19:58
itsnotabigtruckeverybody keeps confining themselves to what the store will allow, forget that19:58
itsnotabigtruckalso this steam telepathy thing has applications outside of the n919:59
Sazpaimonthere's already a steam chat client for mono, though19:59
Sazpaimonso regular linux can take advantage of a "full" client20:00
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itsnotabigtruckSazpaimon: but not through telepathy20:00
itsnotabigtruckthat mono client is seriously ghetto20:00
itsnotabigtruckthis would make it possible to install steam chat into empathy20:00
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Sazpaimonidealy the pidgin devs should just make it part of libpurple20:01
Sazpaimonbut they dont seem interested20:01
bluesleehello, does someone now if there are command line dbus commands for getting cellid etc?20:01
itsnotabigtruckthe pidgin developers aren't particularly interested in anything20:01
Sazpaimonanyway, here's what I'll do20:01
Sazpaimoni'll make a store-compliant version for N920:01
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Sazpaimonand an N900 version that seperates into two debs20:01
itsnotabigtruckblueslee: there are, though i don't know off-hand20:02
itsnotabigtruckwhat's it for?20:02
Sazpaimonthe N900 version should be usable on regular linux20:02
itsnotabigtruckthere's no reason to keep the proper version off the n920:02
itsnotabigtruckbut anyway, how about implementing it actually first :p20:03
itsnotabigtruckdistribution can come later20:03
Sazpaimonwell now that I'm confident that I can make it using telepathy-python it makes my job easier20:03
itsnotabigtrucki just hate the idea that people are screwing up their apps based on arbitrary ovi impositions20:03
Sazpaimoni'll just look at how butterfly handles it20:03
bluesleeitsnotabigtruck: something like cellid -> station -> monitoring departure on low power screen of n920:03
itsnotabigtruckespecially since the main userbase probably isn't going to be the sort of person who only looks at the ovi store anyway20:03
ZogG_laptopclient for what?20:04
itsnotabigtruckZogG_laptop: steam chat20:04
ZogG_laptoplike videocalls?20:04
Sazpaimonerm20:04
ZogG_laptopsteam from Steam - the shop?20:04
Sazpaimonsteam doesnt do video calls20:05
itsnotabigtruckno...since when did steam have anything to do with video20:05
itsnotabigtruckSazpaimon: just a reminder, since you're using the steam http api, be super careful to escape everything20:05
bluesleeitsnotabigtruck: i know the commands on the n900 but they do not work on the n9, dbus-monitoring was not very helpful yet20:05
itsnotabigtruckif that's needed20:05
Sazpaimonsteam has voice chat though20:05
ZogG_laptopdamn right my bad i somehower thought of stream =)20:05
Sazpaimoni dont think the webapi can accomplish that20:05
Sazpaimonnor do i think it'd be incredibly useful20:05
itsnotabigtruckyeah, steam voice chat is for talking while gaming20:06
Sazpaimonand everyone uses teamspeak, ventrilo, and mumble for that20:06
ZogG_laptopthise gamers =)20:06
itsnotabigtrucki hate how no one uses built-in game chat these days20:06
Sazpaimonthe latest versions of the source engine is supposed to mitigate that20:07
Sazpaimonbecause the voice quality is drastically improved since they changed codecs20:07
itsnotabigtruckgenerally everyone either a) doesn't have a mic, b) has a mic but is too n00b to configure it correctly, c) is only interested in talking to their clan or whatnot over mumble etc.20:07
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itsnotabigtruckinstead of strategizing on the game voice20:07
Sazpaimonguess I need to write the accounts plugin from scratch20:09
Sazpaimonsince butterfly uses something called liblongcat20:09
Sazpaimonthat ive never heard of20:09
Sazpaimon"A base plugin for writing accounts plugins, which makes it easier and needs"20:09
Sazpaimonok, so why call it liblongcat20:09
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itsnotabigtrucklol20:14
itsnotabigtruckbecause it sounds awesome20:15
itsnotabigtruckhttp://longc.at/longcat20:15
itsnotabigtruckthat's why it's liblongcat20:15
Sazpaimoni have an ascii version of that pic for irc spamming20:16
itsnotabigtruckhaha20:16
faenil_has anybody got experience with android programming?20:16
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djszapifaenil: RST38h has.20:22
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faenilI'm going crazy with filetype recognition...20:23
faenilRST38h: ping20:23
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djszapiand I might have pretty soon some ;p20:25
RST38hfaeniL; yes, what?20:26
faenilneed help with filetype  recognition via manifest on android, can you help?20:27
RST38hI think so20:27
faenilwonderful :D20:27
faenilpm?20:27
RST38hwhatever you like20:27
RST38hYou want your app to open files from the file manager or what?20:27
faenilyes, and from browser20:29
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pahi20:54
paim sorry im a newbie of harmattan, just got today my N9. but i have a question: i bought an unlocked phone, but it was locked. so i called the phone company  who gave me the unlock code20:55
pabut i dont know how to dial #pw on the N920:55
pai can dial p20:55
pabut i dont get the w20:55
pai read i should press * 4 times, but it cycles after three20:56
bluesleei thought that an incoming notification on the lockscreen would disappear after a certain amount of time  ... i have to reboot for this. anyone else with this issue? bug?21:01
* RST38h finally found an application that makes N950 stumble and hang21:03
RST38hCould have guessed before installing it, actually...21:03
faenilanyone who can help with filetype recognition on android?21:03
djszapifaenil: have you tried #android or their development channel ?21:04
faenilyes :21:04
faenildev channel21:04
faenilnone answers to my question xD21:04
djszapitry the mailing, and forum too21:04
pano one has idea how to dial "w" in the N9?21:05
* RST38h kinda remembers answering a while ago21:05
faenilRST38h: yes, I sent you other pms and you didn't answer, so I thought you didn't know how to help me :)21:05
faenildon't know if you haven't received messages or what else :)21:06
faenilehm :P21:08
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faenilRST38h: did I say anything wrong? XD21:11
ZogG_laptopfaenil: why do u want dial «w»21:14
faenilit wasn't me :D21:14
paZogG_laptop, to debrand it21:14
pai have the debranding code21:14
pabut i cannot dial #pw21:14
pacoz i cannot dial the w21:14
pain the instructions i got from the operator, they say to press * 4 times21:15
pabut after 3 times, it simply cycles back to *21:15
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ZogG_laptopwhat do you mena by debrand?21:17
palike to use a sim from another operator21:17
ZogG_laptoppa - http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=7949121:18
ZogG_laptoppa - it should be unlocked by default? have you tried to reset factory settings and flash it?21:18
djszapipa I can second this with stock kernel and device21:20
padjszapi, you mean that by default it is unlocked?21:22
pai havent tried to flash it21:22
pano..21:22
pacan i download the flash from nokia.com?21:22
djszapias I said, it does not help for me.21:23
djszapiI have the same UX as you with stock kernel.21:23
pameaning you cannot dial the w?21:23
djszapiyes, as you described.21:23
paah okay..21:24
paso there+s no way to unbrand this phone?21:24
pai called nokia just now, and they say i should press star four times..21:24
pai mean, if they dont know it..21:24
djszapido you have PR1.1 ?21:24
pai think so21:24
payou mean PR121:24
djszapiI have Pr1.2 on my n921:25
paah ok 1.121:25
payes21:25
djszapibut if it happens with PR1.1 too...21:25
djszapiCould anybody claim the opposite here ?21:25
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Corsachmhm, I need to send the n9 back to nokia care, I got a RMA stuff for mail back, do I really need to put there every accessories?21:28
ZogG_laptopdjszapi: sneeky man =)21:28
ZogG_laptopi have 1.1 and it happenns the same21:29
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faenilRST38h: I beg for your help, lol21:33
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paand by the way, do you know how to change or reset the skype account on the N9?21:46
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paalso, what does change in PR1.2?21:54
djszapiit is not out there yet, so no final changelog.21:55
djszapibut you can at least check the available draft.21:55
djszapifor N95021:55
smokexwould be nice if I was able to connect to the net using my N950 again21:55
smokexconnect my pc to the net through n95021:56
smokexfor not switched back to C721:56
smokexnow21:56
djszapismokex: and what is your precise issue ?21:57
djszapijoikuspot is your friend.21:57
smokexthe upgrade of Nokia Suite made connection through N950 impossible21:58
itsnotabigtruckit seems to work if you add it on an old version of nokia suite, then upgrade21:59
itsnotabigtruckbut i haven't gone to 3.2 yet21:59
itsnotabigtruckalso i had to re-add my n9 to nokia suite after upgrading to 3.121:59
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itsnotabigtruckit was shown as "nokia n9 (UNSUPPORTED)" or something like that in the listing21:59
itsnotabigtruckbut it added it anyway21:59
smokexdoesn't work on latest22:00
smokexat all22:00
itsnotabigtrucktry uninstalling, installing 3.0.290, adding it, then upgrading to 3.1.x22:00
itsnotabigtruckyou need to go offline while you launch the installer22:00
smokexand gives you a link to get Nokia Link22:00
smokexbrb22:01
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padoes anyonehere use skype on the meego?22:08
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pai seriously dont get how to change account..22:16
djszapipa: delete ?22:24
paskype account? but how?22:24
pai cannot sign out22:24
djszapibottom right corner22:25
djszapipress it, and then delete.22:25
pai can delete users22:25
panot account22:25
paor..=22:25
djszapiand then you can add yet another22:25
pahm22:25
pai try22:25
paso22:26
padjszapi, i have only sort by, show, add group, merge contacts, import contacts, export contacts, delete contacts22:26
djszapiscreenshot ?22:27
pagood question.. how do i do that?22:27
djszapigst-launch-0.10 ximagesrc num-buffers=1 ! ffmpegcolorspace ! dspjpegenc ! filesink location=shot.jpg22:27
djszapibut in any case: Accounts application, tap on your skype stuff22:28
djszapibottom right corner, and then delete22:28
djszapiand then you can add a skype account again22:28
pathank you so much! finally i got where it was :)22:29
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djszapiVenemo_N950: this is the fifth device I can reproduce the cumbersome bug in chattery...22:30
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djszapialmost instantly.22:30
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djszapiIs the Nokia Ovi Store report any reliable ? It shows one download from Finland, but I for surely know at least 2 people downlong it from that place.22:39
djszapidownloaded*, damn la.22:40
djszapilag*22:40
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faenilanyone with android experience ?XD22:52
djszapifaenil: satuday evening here, let the people have a good party :D22:53
faenilyeah, damnit xD22:53
faenilI wanna burn android in this moment22:54
djszapior troll the android security model and you will find friends with the trolling as many here :)22:54
faenilhahaahh22:56
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djszapiWhat is the best approach in QML for having a blinking text animation for the countdown timer value under 10 seconds or so ? Shall I use the ScriptAction or something else instead ?23:02
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Venemohey23:09
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Venemodo you guys know how to send notifications in Harmattan?23:09
* djszapi knows with MTF23:10
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Venemodjszapi: can you point me to the API?23:11
djszapiMNotification23:11
djszapihttp://meego.gitorious.org/meegotouch/libmeegotouch/trees/master/demos/widgetsgallery23:12
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Venemodjszapi: thanks :)23:13
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djszapiDoes anybody know the icon location of the "information" icon with an 'i' letter inside ? You can find it for instance in front of the "Flight mode" switch in the settings. I have one in blue, but it would be use the platform icon directly designed for it.23:14
djszapinice to use ..23:14
djszapiVenemo: have you joined the Hungarian Qt group ?23:15
Venemodjszapi: I wasn't aware that there was a Hungarian Qt group!23:16
djszapihttp://developer.qt.nokia.com/groups/qt_hungary23:17
Venemonice, thanks23:17
Venemodjszapi: can I set the icon of the notification to the icon of my own app?23:17
djszapi:) Back to my question: is there any platform icon viewer application for Harmattan ?23:18
djszapiit could be very useful for applicaitondevelopers to find the icons the platform is shipping.23:18
djszapiVenemo: yes, setImage23:19
djszapiSets the name of the image to be used in the notification. If the name is an absolute path (begins with a /) an image located in that path is used. Otherwise the image name is interpreted to be an icon ID.23:19
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Venemodjszapi: ah, okay. thanks :)23:21
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djszapiIs it possible to pass a text file to a text property in qml, or do I need to make the reading in C++ and call that invokable method in qml ? I would be nice to not type a help page directly in qml... :)23:47
Venemodjszapi: I think you'll need to write C++, or just use qsTr() and type the help text into the translation file23:49
djszapiVenemo: kde apps must not use qsTr() ever.23:50
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