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| zerok | where is guido? ^_^ | 11:03 |
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| * Mez waves | 12:24 | |
| Mez | no Moreati ? | 12:24 |
| TheSheep | no more ati | 12:24 |
| TheSheep | intel all the way | 12:25 |
| Mez | moreati = alex wwilmer... he was asking me to help with soemthing to do with this channell.. thought he'd be in there | 12:27 |
| TheSheep | maybe the topic? | 12:28 |
| TheSheep | it's kinda old | 12:28 |
| Mez | Anyone from pyitalia here? | 12:28 |
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| juD2k | It's all very well to do live coding in a talk, but it shouldn't be the majority of the content. | 12:37 |
| juD2k | I hate watching other people type. | 12:37 |
| zerok | juD2k: with bpython it would be enjoyable ;-) | 12:40 |
| hynek | s/enjoyable/colorful/ | 12:42 |
| d0ugal | juD2k: What one you in? | 12:43 |
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| zerok | right… we haven't established yet, that light blue on white is a bad combination ^_^ | 12:46 |
| d0ugal | Did anybody see the Django comp key talk? | 12:46 |
| zerok | d0ugal: yes | 12:46 |
| d0ugal | zerok: Was it good? | 12:47 |
| d0ugal | zerok: was it advanced? | 12:47 |
| zerok | d0ugal: it had a funny intro (star wars style) and yes, it was advanced. it basically required some knowledge of how models and querysets operate internally | 12:47 |
| d0ugal | Oh nice. I should have went. | 12:48 |
| juD2k | d0ugal: OpenCV | 12:48 |
| juD2k | zerok: I doubt it would be enjoyable :) | 12:48 |
| zerok | juD2k: ^_^ | 12:48 |
| juD2k | Such a shame because OpenCV has so *much* scope to show off. | 12:49 |
| d0ugal | juD2k: Feeling better today? :p | 12:49 |
| juD2k | d0ugal: Yes thanks. | 12:49 |
| d0ugal | Good stuff. | 12:49 |
| d0ugal | Beer then? :D | 12:49 |
| juD2k | Actually the talk's not bad - it's just slow and a little stumbling | 12:49 |
| d0ugal | fair enough | 12:49 |
| d0ugal | I'm in the mongo one | 12:49 |
| zerok | juD2k: ah, you skipped yesterday? | 12:49 |
| juD2k | The guy's mexican and english is not his first language, so you have to give him huge amounts of respect. | 12:49 |
| d0ugal | for sure | 12:50 |
| zerok | d0ugal: how is mark this year? :-) | 12:50 |
| d0ugal | zerok: Alright, I'm only half watching TBH. Some of its pretty cool. | 12:50 |
| d0ugal | zerok: He is listing *lots* of open source projects, so lots to go and look up. | 12:51 |
| zerok | d0ugal: grrrr so the perfect talk for me :-( | 12:51 |
| juD2k | zerok: Skipped yesterday? No... :-? | 12:51 |
| zerok | juD2k: oh, then i just completely missed you the whole day ^_^ | 12:51 |
| juD2k | lol | 12:51 |
| juD2k | I was just *very* tired yesterday. | 12:52 |
| d0ugal | They should put the EP videos on torrents and use the local network to setup lots of seeds for when we leave | 12:52 |
| zerok | d0ugal: +1 | 12:52 |
| juD2k | +1 | 12:53 |
| d0ugal | Maybe I should suggest that, dunno how hard it would be. I've never created a torrent before only consumed :D | 12:53 |
| d0ugal | It would probably saturate the local network for a while | 12:54 |
| * zerok thinks about closing psfmember.org using flask or django or something … just not drupal | 12:54 | |
| zerok | s/closing/cloning | 12:54 |
| Jarus | zerok: let do it, I will help ;) | 12:55 |
| d0ugal | zerok: sprint idea! | 12:55 |
| zerok | d0ugal: i will be heading home tomorrow, but i'd help remotely | 12:55 |
| d0ugal | cool | 12:56 |
| zerok | will drop marc-andre a mail later | 12:56 |
| zerok | or i will just do it tonight :-P | 12:56 |
| Jarus | I would attend a sprint ;) | 12:56 |
| d0ugal | I don't know what to sprint on yet | 12:57 |
| d0ugal | Oh by the way, I think I'm doing pizza again today if anybody else wants to join | 12:57 |
| d0ugal | I didn't bother getting extra tickets though, so you best be quick | 12:57 |
| zerok | d0ugal: for lunch or tonight? | 12:57 |
| d0ugal | lunch | 12:57 |
| d0ugal | The free thing | 12:57 |
| zerok | d0ugal: hmm…. tempting. will try :-) | 12:58 |
| TheSheep | I think the standard lunch is better :P | 12:58 |
| * TheSheep <-- not a fan of pizza | 12:58 | |
| TheSheep | and they don't have ananas :P | 12:58 |
| TheSheep | um | 12:58 |
| TheSheep | pineapple | 12:58 |
| d0ugal | Yeah, I prefer the selection | 12:59 |
| zerok | d0ugal: Jarus: mail is out. let's see | 13:00 |
| d0ugal | cool | 13:01 |
| hynek | TheSheep: dude, "free pizza" is just a buffet that has a_also_ pizza. it's jsut better and you can sit. :) | 13:02 |
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| ambv | hynek: I don't need no ticket to sit, youngster! | 13:03 |
| TheSheep | hynek: I know that, I tried it last year and was disappointed | 13:03 |
| TheSheep | hynek: you know, I'm too shy to actually eat my share at buffets | 13:03 |
| * hynek likes-likes it :) | 13:03 | |
| TheSheep | hynek: they always make me feel bad, especially in an empty restaurant with 3+ waiters watching | 13:04 |
| hynek | heh. this buffet is always full though | 13:04 |
| TheSheep | I'm not saying it's bad, it's not my thing | 13:04 |
| juD2k | TheSheep: You *obviously* don't know what you're talking about ;P | 13:05 |
| TheSheep | juD2k: obviously | 13:05 |
| ambv | trololololo | 13:06 |
| juD2k | :P | 13:06 |
| ambv | he only eats things that died | 13:06 |
| juD2k | I try not to eat living things myself. | 13:06 |
| TheSheep | I try to kill them before eating | 13:07 |
| TheSheep | juD2k: living things, like green leaves? | 13:07 |
| ambv | juD2k: you cook them alive? | 13:07 |
| TheSheep | juD2k: you know that they are still photosynthetizing on your plate? | 13:07 |
| juD2k | Why would I want to eat green leaves? I only eat MEAT! | 13:08 |
| TheSheep | \o/ | 13:08 |
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| * Jarus get a free pizza thing =) | 13:12 | |
| Jarus | *got | 13:12 |
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| d0ugal | So, where is everybody? | 15:33 |
| Jarus | d0ugal: I am at Big Mac ;) | 15:34 |
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| * mgedmin is feeling like a zombie today for some reason | 16:32 | |
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| ambv | mgedmin: easy. you had too few wine at lunch. | 16:36 |
| TheSheep | too little | 16:38 |
| ambv | yup, seems I had too much | 16:38 |
| ambv | :D | 16:38 |
| TheSheep | too many | 16:38 |
| ambv | bad Sheep, bad Sheep. | 16:38 |
| * TheSheep bites ambv's head off | 16:38 | |
| ambv | no fair, sheep don't do that. | 16:39 |
| TheSheep | munch munch munch | 16:40 |
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| mgedmin | wifi is dead in lasagne | 17:00 |
| TheSheep | rip | 17:01 |
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| zerok | jupp, light green and orange is also not all that great and not-quite-white background :-) | 17:06 |
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| hynek | readable slides, you're doing it wrong | 18:29 |
| mfandreas | ack | 18:29 |
| ambv | hynek: LOL | 18:29 |
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| jezdez | steve!! | 18:29 |
| jezdez | nice | 18:29 |
| Jerub | "Your Font Is Too Small" is (c) GvR | 18:30 |
| jeremias | hmm, how do I know when is the time of my lightning talk? | 18:30 |
| jeremias | was there some list | 18:30 |
| hynek | Jerub: they're big enough, but yellow on white and black on black ಠ_ಠ | 18:30 |
| zerok | -_- | 18:31 |
| Jerub | "Your Font Has Insufficient Contract With The Background But Is Adequately Large" (c)Hynek | 18:32 |
| zerok | yfhicwtbbial | 18:32 |
| zerok | could you catch on | 18:32 |
| hynek | totally | 18:32 |
| Jarus | faster! | 18:33 |
| Jarus | faster! | 18:33 |
| jezdez | yum | 18:33 |
| mfandreas | faster!! | 18:33 |
| zerok | he is probably related to andrew | 18:33 |
| zerok | distant | 18:34 |
| Jarus | zerok: who is andrew | 18:34 |
| zerok | he still pauses from time to time | 18:34 |
| zerok | Jarus: andrew godwin | 18:34 |
| jezdez | sounds like grubwith.us | 18:34 |
| Jarus | zerok: thanks | 18:34 |
| * zerok loves overbooked events | 18:35 | |
| zerok | like overbooked flights | 18:35 |
| hynek | pussycat | 18:35 |
| zerok | wow, a user of django-registration ^_^ | 18:36 |
| jezdez | ;) | 18:36 |
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| hynek | what he says? | 18:38 |
| zerok | … raps are so 2012-07-04 | 18:38 |
| hynek | it's paj-pi-aj! | 18:38 |
| jezdez | PIE PEE EYE!!!!!11! | 18:39 |
| jezdez | ARGH | 18:39 |
| zerok | i just call it pee pee | 18:39 |
| jezdez | or Cheese shop :P | 18:39 |
| zerok | less thinking involved | 18:39 |
| illenseer | your font is to small | 18:40 |
| zerok | wrapp … with meat, and onions and chili and cheese and ... | 18:41 |
| jezdez | free beer for ambv | 18:41 |
| ambv | :) | 18:42 |
| zerok | woot | 18:42 |
| jezdez | uh uh | 18:42 |
| jezdez | sigh, XML | 18:44 |
| hynek | Your Font Has Insufficient Contract With The Background But Is Adequately Large! | 18:44 |
| zerok | nope | 18:44 |
| hynek | and too small | 18:44 |
| ambv | is this serious? | 18:45 |
| hynek | is this the same guy like low-latency? ;) | 18:46 |
| ambv | ah, it isn't. thank $DEITY. | 18:46 |
| zerok | hynek: no | 18:47 |
| zerok | beer afterwards across the street? | 18:47 |
| jezdez | ambv: it worked!! | 18:48 |
| ambv | CheeseShop += 1 | 18:48 |
| ambv | YAY | 18:48 |
| jezdez | :D | 18:48 |
| ambv | is it just me or is the temperature peaking | 18:50 |
| jezdez | ambv: probably violent stress during the XML talk | 18:50 |
| ulope | ambv: Maybe it's the beginning of CO2 poisening | 18:51 |
| jezdez | Puka? | 18:51 |
| hynek | pikapika | 18:52 |
| ambv | jezdez: my thoughts exactly | 18:52 |
| ambv | lemme check the PyP.. I mean cheese shop | 18:52 |
| jezdez | LMAO | 18:52 |
| ambv | "an opinionated RabbitMQ client" | 18:53 |
| jezdez | )_o | 18:53 |
| ambv | but I still like this result better: http://galeri.uludagsozluk.com/45/puka_32044.jpg | 18:53 |
| jezdez | err O_o | 18:53 |
| jezdez | huh, yeah | 18:53 |
| TheSheep | jezdez that looked painful | 18:53 |
| TheSheep | did you get hit by a door? | 18:53 |
| jezdez | wait, what? | 18:54 |
| jezdez | oh | 18:54 |
| jezdez | nm | 18:54 |
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| hynek | need beer | 18:59 |
| jezdez | mmmmbeeer | 19:00 |
| hynek | are sprint teasers worthwhile or can we pybeer before we start cocktailing? | 19:02 |
| jezdez | it's probably worthwhile for the sprint newbies | 19:02 |
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| hynek | hm, never been to a sprint but i know which one i go to, so i guess i can skip that one? | 19:08 |
| zerok | finally someone with a prezi :-) | 19:09 |
| ulope | Interesting properties like using up more currency in electrical energy than is being genrated in bitcoin value | 19:10 |
| ambv | ulope: haha | 19:12 |
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| ambv | don't hate me for making the lightning talks longer. | 19:18 |
| jezdez | ambv: :P | 19:18 |
| ambv | OTOH the teasers will be shorter. | 19:19 |
| Jerub | yeah, bitcoin is a strange beast | 19:19 |
| jeremias | many people don't seem to like it, but I rarely see sensible arguments | 19:20 |
| jeremias | maybe it is too scary | 19:20 |
| ambv | I would totally get a bit bucket full of bit coins. #badjoke #failedattemptathumor | 19:21 |
| jezdez | your hashes won't help you there | 19:22 |
| Jerub | jeremias: it wastes computing energy on a global scale to generate a currency that has high novelty value, but a total disconnect with any economy | 19:22 |
| Jerub | so you can't do any business with it that requires a stable supplychain without holding significant risk personally. | 19:22 |
| jeremias | goverments waste more value by printing currencies & bailing banks all the time | 19:23 |
| zerok | it's kind of similar to a currency of leaving your lights on when not at home, isn't it? ;-) | 19:23 |
| jeremias | and personal usage is your own choice - nobody forces you to use bitcoin | 19:23 |
| ambv | jezdez: I can use the overheated room as an excuse | 19:23 |
| jezdez | ambv: okay, fair enough | 19:23 |
| jeremias | for example, gold mining wastes more resources that bitcoin mining ever would | 19:24 |
| Jerub | even when you import things from overseas, and you have to hold the risk of your currency shifting vs your suppliers currency. | 19:24 |
| Jerub | but at least you have significant capital and costs in your own currency. with bitcoin, if you list physical goods for sale online, you might end up selling things for twice or half their cost price at a moments notice because the currency is so unstable. | 19:25 |
| Jerub | and all your costs are in money-dollars not bitcoins. | 19:25 |
| jeremias | yep, it is highly volatile | 19:26 |
| jeremias | but people will still use it | 19:26 |
| jeremias | for virtual items & black market | 19:26 |
| Jerub | sure. | 19:26 |
| jezdez | well, there were the data sims | 19:26 |
| jeremias | competing with traditional physical stuff probably isn't the use case | 19:27 |
| Jerub | so only for things where you don't actually interact with the real world :) | 19:27 |
| jeremias | but there are lots of use cases outside that area | 19:27 |
| jeremias | well, traditionally black market was real world activity... eg. you had to meet people live and settle with cash | 19:27 |
| jeremias | nowadays you can use bitcoin + tor | 19:27 |
| Jerub | illegal stuff. digital content provision. licensing. | 19:28 |
| jeremias | and also speculating/store of value | 19:28 |
| Jerub | my thesis here is that it is not suitable for physical goods delivery. | 19:28 |
| jeremias | in some 3rd world countries they can't easily move funds out of the country | 19:28 |
| jeremias | especially when goverments like devaluing the official currency with inflation | 19:30 |
| jeremias | so even volatile bitcoin could be good alternative | 19:30 |
| Jerub | for what? | 19:30 |
| jeremias | for USD replacement | 19:31 |
| jeremias | http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-07-05/argentina-bans-dollar-purchases-for-savings-infobae-says.html | 19:31 |
| Jerub | you get wages paid in physical dollars. you buy bread with it. currency transfer with foreign currencies goes to shit and you can't do it, how does bitcoin help? :) | 19:31 |
| jeremias | bitcoin is easier to transfer | 19:31 |
| jeremias | eg. remittances | 19:31 |
| jeremias | no need to transfer currency over the borders | 19:31 |
| jeremias | in a suitcase | 19:32 |
| Jerub | and we arrive back to the main use cases: | 19:32 |
| Jerub | 02:28 < Jerub> illegal stuff. digital content provision. licensing. | 19:32 |
| Jerub | i don't see it gaining any traction beyond those niches. | 19:32 |
| jeremias | well yeah, buying and transfering bitcoins isn't illegal yet in any country :D | 19:32 |
| jeremias | well, the deflationary properties will take care of the rest | 19:33 |
| jezdez | yays! | 19:33 |
| jezdez | epic sprint intro | 19:37 |
| ambv | DJANGO, I AM YOUR FATHER | 19:38 |
| ambv | -- PHP | 19:38 |
| jezdez | LOL | 19:38 |
| Jarus | ambv: great | 19:38 |
| hynek | fun fact, this bug once lead to accidentally changing all passwords of our mail accounts (key = name + domain) because yours truly was used to sqlalchemy. | 19:39 |
| jezdez | yikes! | 19:40 |
| jezdez | it really is a feature request though, not a bug | 19:40 |
| jezdez | *cough* | 19:40 |
| hynek | *cough* | 19:40 |
| jezdez | :D | 19:40 |
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