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| d0ugal | Mornin' | 10:07 |
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| juD2k | G'day d0ugal | 10:08 |
| d0ugal | My tired brain is being forced to learn Twisted right now | 10:09 |
| flox | morning | 10:09 |
| juD2k | I am doing TDD with Django. | 10:10 |
| juD2k | Very excited about it right now, but may be drunk. | 10:10 |
| juD2k | (still) | 10:10 |
| d0ugal | juD2k: Yeah, I seen your drunk looking tweets | 10:11 |
| juD2k | Have now been drinking with 2 out of 3 of the blue-haired people at the conference :) | 10:11 |
| juD2k | d0ugal You made that up - I just checked! | 10:12 |
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| d0ugal | juD2k: Just this one, https://twitter.com/judy2k/status/220686623061442560 | 10:12 |
| juD2k | I would argue that a) that's not a drunk tweet, and b) the content is entirely factual. | 10:13 |
| juD2k | In fact, I'm glad you posted that link in this channel. | 10:13 |
| juD2k | I'm just going to paste in the content right now for people who can't be bothered to click on the link. | 10:14 |
| juD2k | May I use this opportunity to recommend my friend, @TeamMat. You should hire him to write awesome #python for you, especially in #edinburgh | 10:14 |
| juD2k | ;) | 10:14 |
| d0ugal | juD2k: I only said drunk *looking* :p | 10:15 |
| juD2k | :P | 10:15 |
| d0ugal | and if you are still drunk now, I'm sure you were 6 hours ago :D | 10:16 |
| d0ugal | anyways | 10:16 |
| * d0ugal focuses | 10:16 | |
| juD2k | A fair, fair point. | 10:16 |
| d0ugal | (as much as possible) | 10:16 |
| d0ugal | Oh, one more thing. I'm doing the pizza lunch again and this time I grabbed 4 spare tickets if anybody needs | 10:18 |
| juD2k | d0ugal: Save a ticket for me! | 10:22 |
| juD2k | Is there anyone else actually in this channel, apart from me and d0ugal? Was pyFiorentina *that* good? | 10:22 |
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| juD2k | I'll take that as a 'no' :) | 10:28 |
| d0ugal | juD2k: saved. | 10:28 |
| d0ugal | juD2k: oh and it was great | 10:28 |
| abach | indeed. | 10:28 |
| d0ugal | juD2k: much better than last year IMO | 10:28 |
| juD2k | I went to a restaurant recommended by one of the organisers. We ordered a *slab* of steak. It was *amazing* | 10:29 |
| juD2k | If that wasn't true, I'd be envious of you :) | 10:29 |
| juD2k | Actually, when the steak arrived, we just sat and stared at it for a while. Amazed we managed to finish it. | 10:30 |
| abach | sounds familiar | 10:32 |
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| ronny | hi | 10:35 |
| mishok13 | shy ronny | 10:37 |
| ronny | how do the livestreams work, when i go to the mainpage, and try to see the videos for current talsk, it just tells me not availiable | 10:37 |
| d0ugal | juD2k: I paid for the upgrade and had an extra big one for myself lol | 10:38 |
| abach | works here. | 10:38 |
| juD2k | d0ugal, d0ugal, d0ugal | 10:39 |
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| juD2k | :) | 10:39 |
| * d0ugal looks confused | 10:40 | |
| juD2k | Imagine I'm shaking my head and tutting to myself. | 10:40 |
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| zerok | good morning :-) | 10:49 |
| juD2k | morning, zerok | 10:50 |
| juD2k | We're all using D0ugal as our 'test user' in the TDD with Django training. | 10:52 |
| zerok | :D | 10:52 |
| d0ugal | juD2k: Any particular reason? | 10:57 |
| zerok | sorry, but that minimal software development talk is so full of actually weird and quite senseless bashing ... | 10:57 |
| d0ugal | juD2k: … and who is we? | 10:57 |
| zerok | rofl | 10:57 |
| zerok | the speaker basically wants you to reinvent the wheel every single time you have a problem you yourself haven't fixed yet if I understand him correctly ... | 11:00 |
| mishok13 | that's Haard, right? | 11:01 |
| zerok | mishok13: yes | 11:01 |
| mishok13 | generally he's a very entertaining speaker | 11:01 |
| mishok13 | I'm amazed he's actually resorting to bashing and NIH syndrome | 11:01 |
| mishok13 | will have to watch the talk later :) | 11:02 |
| zerok | not necessarily "bashing" in the strictest sense but i've become just rather sensitive to use soap as an example for why xml is bad or hibernate and orms etc | 11:02 |
| juD2k | d0ugal: Because I suggested it, and "everyone in the room" | 11:05 |
| juD2k | Actually that's not really true. The trainer asked for suggestions, I suggested Dougal, and he then wrote 'Guido' up on the screen. | 11:05 |
| juD2k | Not sure why, but his training is really good so far, so I won't complain :) | 11:05 |
| mishok13 | zc.buildout is still tied to eggs :( | 11:11 |
| mishok13 | I really hope pip wheel protocol will take off | 11:12 |
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| d0ugal | juD2k: lol. | 11:23 |
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| mishok13 | so much terminal windows open at Tagliatelle room | 12:10 |
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| hynek | g'morning | 12:13 |
| hynek | also: fuck alcohol *ouch* | 12:13 |
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| mishok13 | ALCOHOL FUCK YEAH | 12:15 |
| hynek | please | 12:16 |
| hynek | no | 12:16 |
| hynek | yelling | 12:16 |
| mishok13 | how sensitive | 12:18 |
| juD2k | urg | 12:19 |
| * hynek regrets nothing though | 12:19 | |
| mgedmin | :D | 12:19 |
| mishok13 | wait a second, this is a presentation running in Ubuntu, running in VirtualBox, running in Windows | 12:20 |
| mishok13 | second time I'm seeing this | 12:21 |
| mishok13 | is this the cool way to do presentations nowadays? | 12:21 |
| Jarus | mishok13: yes this is the "cool" way | 12:22 |
| mishok13 | damn, I'm so out of fashion nowadays | 12:22 |
| juD2k | The TDD trainer is presenting with Vim | 12:24 |
| abach | he probably does not have the authorization to install new software in windows by policy, but already uses vmware for other stuffs, and can do what he wants inside the wm | 12:24 |
| juD2k | That's what all the hip kids are up to these days. | 12:24 |
| abach | vm | 12:24 |
| Jarus | maybe you are right abach | 12:24 |
| mishok13 | but then you can probably launch slides in PDF reader on Windows | 12:25 |
| abach | anyway, it's the cool thing to do | 12:25 |
| mollerstrand | totally, abach | 12:25 |
| mishok13 | cool, next year I'm going to present on Plan9 running on VirtualBox in Slackware | 12:25 |
| mollerstrand | why is everyone inventing their own locking services? | 12:25 |
| mishok13 | mollerstrand, same reason, it's the cool thing to do | 12:26 |
| abach | make sure you use wine somewhere along the way, for maximum coolness | 12:26 |
| mishok13 | I'm going to use wine at lunch | 12:26 |
| mishok13 | but giving presentation while being drunk would also be cool, I guess | 12:27 |
| abach | go for white wine, it's cooler | 12:27 |
| mishok13 | totally | 12:27 |
| mollerstrand | I like how you will "use" wine, mishok13 :-) | 12:28 |
| mollerstrand | very utilitarian | 12:28 |
| mishok13 | LOCK ALL THE WSGI PROCESSES! | 12:30 |
| mishok13 | at least he admits it's a SPoF | 12:30 |
| abach | whats "endup"? | 12:31 |
| mollerstrand | so there's http://pypi.python.org/pypi/memcached_lock and https://github.com/PatrickTulskie/redis-lock and http://code.google.com/p/pykeeper/ | 12:32 |
| mishok13 | mollerstrand, and none of them is a good idea | 12:32 |
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| mollerstrand | surely zookeeper is an excellent lock service | 12:34 |
| mishok13 | meh | 12:37 |
| mishok13 | it's an excellent implementation of Bad Idea (tm) ;) | 12:39 |
| mishok13 | it's useful for having centralized configuration though | 12:39 |
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| d0ugal | mollerstrand: be careful with all those locks, you might get stuck and miss a talk | 12:39 |
| hynek | d0ugal: :D | 12:40 |
| kodapa | :D | 12:40 |
| mishok13 | nobody is arguing that Apache is capable of providing HA service, it's just it's horrible in terms of configuration | 12:41 |
| mollerstrand | d0ugal, :-) | 12:42 |
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| mishok13 | why are we being explained how to rename processes in Linux? | 12:43 |
| d0ugal | mishok13: In the TDD django thing? | 12:44 |
| abach | oh ok | 12:44 |
| mishok13 | nope, multihost low-latency web apps | 12:44 |
| d0ugal | ah ok | 12:44 |
| abach | my notes from this presentation is approximately "" | 12:45 |
| abach | ): | 12:45 |
| mishok13 | oh my fucking goodness | 12:45 |
| hynek | that bad? | 12:45 |
| mishok13 | he has shown the code | 12:46 |
| mishok13 | he shouldn't have shown the code | 12:46 |
| abach | why do you even want to do something like this? | 12:46 |
| hynek | people should show code when handing in talks so I can make educated guesses if it's worth my time :) | 12:46 |
| mgedmin | s/in talks/before talks/ | 12:47 |
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| * mgedmin will have to watch the video of the multihost thing to see what the buzz is all about | 12:47 | |
| mollerstrand | release me | 12:47 |
| hynek | mge "handing in" | 12:47 |
| hynek | so before even voting :) | 12:47 |
| mishok13 | that's really bad | 12:48 |
| * hynek will watch it too. now you got my attention | 12:48 | |
| abach | epic case of "people leaving early" | 12:48 |
| mgedmin | that probably explains people coming into this room in the middle of the talk | 12:49 |
| abach | this room was full at the beginning of the talk | 12:49 |
| mishok13 | socket not getting closed if exception occured | 12:49 |
| mishok13 | you can't be serious | 12:49 |
| mishok13 | it's in the socket howto | 12:49 |
| mgedmin | \ | 12:49 |
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| d0ugal | lol | 12:49 |
| TheSheep | so people, if you want to learn to play an instrument, come to the garden during lunch | 12:49 |
| hynek | what could possibly go wrong | 12:49 |
| d0ugal | TheSheep: what instruments? | 12:50 |
| TheSheep | I have a bunch of tinwhistles to try, and an ocarina | 12:50 |
| d0ugal | cool | 12:50 |
| mishok13 | MA Lemburg would probably have a heart attack after seeing this | 12:50 |
| hynek | guido might start yelling – he seems wont to that ;) | 12:51 |
| TheSheep | if you already know how to play come too, it's fun | 12:51 |
| hynek | if i google ocarina I only find zelda :) | 12:51 |
| TheSheep | we can play the zelda songs | 12:52 |
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| * hynek suffers from common sense overload | 12:53 | |
| mishok13 | no timeouts | 12:53 |
| mishok13 | that's ridiculous | 12:53 |
| hynek | mishok13: it’s about low latency! | 12:53 |
| mishok13 | first sane question | 12:54 |
| mishok13 | "Why didn't you use existing solution?" | 12:54 |
| mishok13 | the answer is "it's not good idea" | 12:54 |
| d0ugal | lol | 12:54 |
| TheSheep | the simplicity talk explains ;) | 12:54 |
| d0ugal | Your speaker likes SOAP. That should have been a warning :) | 12:54 |
| d0ugal | ( https://ep2012.europython.eu/conference/p/pavel-schon ) | 12:55 |
| hynek | wtf? someone likes soap? | 12:55 |
| TheSheep | omnonom | 12:55 |
| d0ugal | Well, likes isn't the right word but it suggests he likes it | 12:55 |
| * d0ugal is only interested in things he likes | 12:55 | |
| hynek | "getting rid of soap" is a valid interest | 12:56 |
| d0ugal | Hmm, true. | 12:56 |
| TheSheep | who can change the topic? | 12:57 |
| mishok13 | kill me | 12:57 |
| mishok13 | "but with twisted I would write more code" | 12:57 |
| TheSheep | clue, how does it work? | 12:58 |
| hynek | i'm totally going to watch the video | 12:59 |
| hynek | sounds like comedy :) | 13:00 |
| hynek | maybe it's just a huge troll and in the end he says "haha, did you actually believe this shit?" | 13:00 |
| mishok13 | he doesn't | 13:01 |
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| hynek | any suggestions for the next talk? *ponder* | 13:05 |
| juD2k | You guys sound like you were having a blast. | 13:06 |
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| mishok13 | Mike Muller and his "Python is fater than FORTRAN" should be good | 13:08 |
| d0ugal | mishok13: hehe "fater" | 13:09 |
| mishok13 | *faster, not fatter | 13:09 |
| d0ugal | I wonder which is more accurate :) | 13:09 |
| mishok13 | both are | 13:10 |
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| * flox attend "Guidelines to writing a Python API" | 13:12 | |
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| * mgedmin wondered if "fater" was a misspelling of "father" | 13:16 | |
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| mishok13 | further | 13:16 |
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| mishok13 | is the Guidelines to API talk any good? | 13:20 |
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| mishok13 | probably the first time I see proper color scheme for the code (still think it's better to avoid any syntax highlighting) | 13:23 |
| mishok13 | fortran is annoying for IO :) | 13:27 |
| flox | he's describing his own experience writing a component for an online shop framework. | 13:27 |
| flox | not so generic, until now | 13:27 |
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| flox | he does not regret :) | 13:28 |
| mishok13 | nobody does | 13:28 |
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| flocca | mishok13: "the font is too small!!!" (gvr) | 13:29 |
| * flox realize it's easy criticizing when you are too lazy to present anything yourself | 13:29 | |
| garbas | hey all, anybody has some spare place app to share, i would like to come tomorrow for spriting | 13:30 |
| mishok13 | font at Mike's talk is just good enough for this smaller room | 13:30 |
| mishok13 | so giving a talk automatically grants you the right to be an asshole and criticize anything? | 13:31 |
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| mishok13 | that's awesome | 13:31 |
| flox | :) | 13:32 |
| * mishok13 gave a talk, so... | 13:32 | |
| mishok13 | ha, 8 lines of Python vs 107 of FORTRAN for the same task | 13:34 |
| flox | now the "lessons learned" become interesting | 13:35 |
| mishok13 | Python beats the crap out of FORTRAN, so much win | 13:36 |
| flox | scipy needs a fortran compiler to build | 13:37 |
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| flox | it seems it's using fortran libraries somewhere | 13:38 |
| mishok13 | it does | 13:38 |
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| mishok13 | there are existing libraries in FORTRAN, that have been written in 60s and 70s and are still being used | 13:39 |
| mishok13 | uh, that got interesting, we got FORTRAN supported in the crowd | 13:39 |
| mishok13 | *supporter | 13:40 |
| flox | any clever acronym avout fortran? | 13:40 |
| flox | anagram I mean | 13:40 |
| mishok13 | nor fart | 13:41 |
| * mishok13 is bad at anagrams | 13:42 | |
| mgedmin | if you pip install some Python libraries (matplotlib? numpy? probably not PIL), you end up needing the GNU Fortran compiler to build something | 13:44 |
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| saley89 | Hello all europythoners | 13:44 |
| majackson | anyone needed to top up their prepaid wind sim? | 13:44 |
| saley89 | How did the pre paid sims work? Are they good? | 13:45 |
| mgedmin | awesome | 13:45 |
| abach | mishok13: there are more, apparently | 13:45 |
| majackson | mines been generally good, seems to be out of data now | 13:45 |
| saley89 | cool. might pick one up net year | 13:45 |
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| saley89 | ill probably get a fairly big bill when I get back to UK. | 13:46 |
| saley89 | supposed to be £1.99 a day but don't trust them really | 13:46 |
| saley89 | ha ha | 13:46 |
| saley89 | Anyone seen any good talks today? | 13:46 |
| mishok13 | Mike Muller's was good | 13:47 |
| saley89 | on... | 13:47 |
| mishok13 | "Python is faster than FORTRAN" | 13:47 |
| abach | not this one | 13:47 |
| abach | nope | 13:47 |
| mishok13 | yep | 13:47 |
| majackson | so no-one else has needed to top theirs up more than the prepaid amount? | 13:47 |
| saley89 | this one? | 13:47 |
| abach | if you pre-load the weights | 13:47 |
| abach | python will be faster | 13:47 |
| abach | but he _is_ comparing apples to oranges, and he is directly unfair to fortran | 13:48 |
| saley89 | ahh cool. i might have to watch that back on YouTube | 13:48 |
| saley89 | what do you mean by pre load the weights? | 13:48 |
| abach | as the older guy said: compare similar complexity algorithms if you actually want to compare | 13:48 |
| mishok13 | and he *said* that in his talk | 13:48 |
| abach | but that does not excuse him | 13:49 |
| mishok13 | similar complexity algorithm would involve writing a proper hash table | 13:49 |
| flox | majackson: normally you can ask the organizers to buy more credit | 13:49 |
| flox | I heard that | 13:49 |
| mishok13 | that would lead to thousands of lines of code | 13:49 |
| mishok13 | and that *is* his point | 13:49 |
| abach | and? | 13:49 |
| abach | there are algorithms for this, and they need not be rewritten (from the 70ties maybe) | 13:50 |
| majackson | flox: cool will do that :) | 13:50 |
| mishok13 | people writing FORTRAN are generally unfamiliar with algorithm complexity | 13:50 |
| abach | no | 13:50 |
| abach | they are not | 13:50 |
| mishok13 | phycists, man | 13:50 |
| abach | usually they are scientists in physics or math | 13:50 |
| abach | and they know _very_ well how complexity works | 13:50 |
| alga | mishok13: are you serious? | 13:50 |
| abach | mishok13: you're seriously misguided | 13:51 |
| flox | majackson: it's written in the small guide u received with ur badge | 13:51 |
| flox | th europython livret | 13:51 |
| alga | mishok13: everyone understands combinatorics and exponents | 13:51 |
| mishok13 | than who are these people in the crowd saying that Mike's point is correct? | 13:51 |
| saley89 | Does anyone who came last year know how the prize draw works later? | 13:51 |
| d0ugal | juD2k: meet at registration desk? | 13:52 |
| juD2k | d0ugal: At lunchtime? I'm still in training... | 13:52 |
| d0ugal | juD2k: Yeah, it should end in ~8 mins | 13:52 |
| saley89 | Also, does anyone know what happened to the software testing tutorial this afternoon? | 13:53 |
| juD2k | Oh yeah. | 13:53 |
| majackson | flox: i dont think i have a "small guide", my sim didnt come with my badge because i uploaded my ID late, apparently. so i got just the sim card a day later... with not much info | 13:53 |
| juD2k | Thought we had a bit longer - sure - see you by the reg desk | 13:53 |
| juD2k | Starving!!!! | 13:53 |
| juD2k | Urrrr | 13:53 |
| d0ugal | juD2k: me too | 13:53 |
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| mgedmin | prize draw? what prize draw? | 13:58 |
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| majackson | mgedmin: its in the schedule at 1830 today | 14:00 |
| mgedmin | ah, that one | 14:00 |
| mgedmin | IIRC last year it was in the same room as the preceding keynote | 14:00 |
| mgedmin | there's also an o'reilly prize draw during lunchtime, but I forgot the day (friday maybe?) | 14:01 |
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| majackson | flox: my bad, found the page in the guide now :-\ | 14:01 |
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| davidcramer_ | yo yo yo | 15:07 |
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| juD2k | yo, homes | 15:08 |
| davidcramer_ | slept til 10 | 15:09 |
| davidcramer_ | i can last all nigh tnow | 15:09 |
| juD2k | I wish I had. I was signed up for training. | 15:09 |
| juD2k | The training was good though. | 15:09 |
| d0ugal | davidcramer_: 🍺 | 15:11 |
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| davidcramer_ | d0ugal, definitely tonight :P | 15:12 |
| d0ugal | W00t! | 15:13 |
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| ambv | davidcramer_: what's the difference between "released" and "realized"? | 15:20 |
| davidcramer_ | oops | 15:20 |
| ambv | I thought "realized" is like more hip and stuff since it has Z in it | 15:21 |
| davidcramer_ | autocorrect ftl | 15:21 |
| d0ugal | lol, just seen it | 15:22 |
| mgedmin | well, the changelog lists Zope support | 15:22 |
| mgedmin | so the Z fits :) | 15:23 |
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| davidcramer_ | :) | 15:26 |
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| d0ugal | I thought this was going to be a Q&A session. How do we troll now? | 15:28 |
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| davidcramer_ | q&a after | 15:28 |
| davidcramer_ | we need good questions | 15:28 |
| davidcramer_ | like | 15:28 |
| mishok13 | did mitsuhiko manage to enter the room? | 15:28 |
| davidcramer_ | "Are there any flask extensions that help with operating door remotely? | 15:28 |
| mishok13 | "Is there a blueprint template for door management utility?" | 15:29 |
| davidcramer_ | i cant ask these questions | 15:29 |
| davidcramer_ | someone else needs to | 15:29 |
| davidcramer_ | :) | 15:29 |
| mishok13 | "Can werkzeug.routing.Map map to door opening Rule?" | 15:29 |
| d0ugal | Why can't you do it? | 15:29 |
| davidcramer_ | too obvious if i do it | 15:29 |
| d0ugal | davidcramer_: setup a google moderator | 15:29 |
| davidcramer_ | someone has to look super serious and ask | 15:29 |
| davidcramer_ | :) | 15:29 |
| d0ugal | Lol | 15:29 |
| mishok13 | "Is there any werkzeug.routing.Converter to convert closed doors into opened doors?" | 15:30 |
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| mgedmin | stop it, I'm sitting in the front row in a different talk! | 15:30 |
| mishok13 | "Which HTTP code corresponds to DoorClosed exception?" | 15:31 |
| roguelynn | mishok13 lulz | 15:32 |
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| mgedmin | 403 Forbidden :) | 15:33 |
| davidcramer_ | whats the internal address for videos? | 15:34 |
| roguelynn | thank god I'm in the back row | 15:34 |
| mishok13 | mgedmin, 100 Continue, please | 15:34 |
| davidcramer_ | does files.ep not work with ethernet? | 15:34 |
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| mishok13 | davidcramer_, 402 Payment Required | 15:35 |
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| mishok13 | doesn't work for me on WiFi, so I guess it doesn't work | 15:38 |
| mishok13 | or I am doing something wrong | 15:38 |
| d0ugal | davidcramer_: it should, used it earlier in this room | 15:38 |
| davidcramer_ | seems you gotta be on wifi maybe not sure | 15:38 |
| davidcramer_ | oh | 15:38 |
| mgedmin | http://files.ep/ works but is _very_ slow for me (wifi) | 15:38 |
| mishok13 | I get 502 Bad Gateway | 15:39 |
| d0ugal | I get a 502 on the wifi | 15:39 |
| mishok13 | guess 418 I'm a Teapot | 15:39 |
| mgedmin | http://files.ep/info-40pycon.it load time was 1.1 minute (according to Chromium Inspector) | 15:40 |
| mishok13 | or should I just 420 Enhance My Calm? | 15:40 |
| abach | wfm (wifi) | 15:40 |
| abach | was thinking to get ethernet to fetch some files later | 15:40 |
| abach | 40kb/s not exactly usable for mp4s | 15:41 |
| mishok13 | I think they'll get published on YouTube in few days anyway | 15:41 |
| mishok13 | at least it was the case last year | 15:42 |
| davidcramer_ | ya saw some were already up | 15:42 |
| roguelynn | http://www.youtube.com/user/PythonItalia/feed | 15:42 |
| roguelynn | they've been really fast in getting the vids up | 15:42 |
| * ulope hopes the current talk in Spaghetti will not turn out to be exclusively zope related | 15:42 | |
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| mgedmin | augh, I've Zope background and I never heard about DeadlockDebugger! | 15:43 |
| abach | I couldn't find the tutorials on files.ep, are they on youtube? ( I guess I could investigate myself, though ) | 15:43 |
| mishok13 | ulope, it seems to be very zope-oriented | 15:43 |
| mgedmin | I've discovered sys._current_frames() when I watched this year's PyCon videos and went to look at how Pyrasite works | 15:43 |
| ulope | mishok13: Yeah :/ | 15:43 |
| mishok13 | pyrasite ftw! | 15:43 |
| mgedmin | it's a brilliant thing to have a web page that shows the stack traces of all your threads | 15:43 |
| * mgedmin is sad that pyrasite _never_ works for him -- just hangs in the middle of downloading some information from the other process | 15:44 | |
| mgedmin | (another very useful thing to have is a web page that shows your current logging configuration) | 15:45 |
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| mishok13 | mgedmin, a more general thing is to have a page that gives you the whole configuration (including logging) | 15:47 |
| mishok13 | every internal service at Google has to have such a page under /status URL | 15:47 |
| mgedmin | yeah, http://files.ep/info-40pycon.it/thursday is a 502 bad doorway | 15:47 |
| mgedmin | :D | 15:47 |
| mishok13 | oh, there's a very useful HTTP code for mitsuhiko | 15:48 |
| mishok13 | 423 Locked | 15:48 |
| mishok13 | let's register isitlocked.com and return 423 for any request | 15:48 |
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| hynek | did he actually say anything about doorgate or will the fun start in the QA? | 15:49 |
| illenseer | hynek: he had one slide, but he went fast over it | 15:50 |
| mgedmin | why no love for WSGI? that django talk mentioned a django-specific long request logger middleware; now we're learning about a Zope-2-specific long request logger middleware | 15:50 |
| mishok13 | because WSGI is hard, amirite? | 15:51 |
| mgedmin | technically that's very true, but still | 15:52 |
| mishok13 | the real answer is of course NIH | 15:52 |
| mgedmin | now we're learning about the data model of ERP5 *yawn* | 15:54 |
| * mgedmin demands pretty pictures, at least | 15:55 | |
| mgedmin | this is what, 5th slide full of bullets about sale order line price calculation specifics of a fictional t-shirt sales company? | 15:57 |
| mishok13 | 4th | 15:58 |
| mishok13 | so there's going to be more! | 15:58 |
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| mishok13 | okay, DISQUS talk has to deliver, otherwise I'll ragequit this room | 15:58 |
| mishok13 | CODEZ | 15:59 |
| mishok13 | YOUR FONT IS TOO SMALL (c) GvR | 15:59 |
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| ulope | "Wonderful"… Uhm ok | 16:04 |
| davidcramer_ | realtime talk has some good stuff, but its def advanced | 16:05 |
| davidcramer_ | also if you are looking for javascript/node.js shit | 16:05 |
| davidcramer_ | you dont want to go to realtime talk | 16:05 |
| davidcramer_ | :) | 16:05 |
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| mishok13 | i want advanced | 16:06 |
| d0ugal | davidcramer_: node and mango please | 16:07 |
| mishok13 | i love mango, it's sweet | 16:08 |
| mishok13 | "this is horrible" | 16:08 |
| mishok13 | good thing the speaker gets it | 16:08 |
| d0ugal | TrueScale™ | 16:09 |
| mishok13 | oh, look everybody, somebody uses Python 2.4! | 16:11 |
| ladyrassilon | @mishok do you mean mango or mongo? | 16:12 |
| davidcramer_ | mishok13, bullshit | 16:13 |
| davidcramer_ | ladyrassilon, github.com/dcramer/mangodb | 16:13 |
| mishok13 | what's mongo? | 16:13 |
| davidcramer_ | greatest db ever | 16:13 |
| mishok13 | mangodb is awesome, man | 16:13 |
| mishok13 | it's the broware of the future | 16:13 |
| mgedmin | yay there's a wsgi-based tool! | 16:14 |
| mgedmin | I didn't catch the name :( | 16:14 |
| ladyrassilon | hmm seems a little bit um... | 16:14 |
| mishok13 | mgedmin, comatoze | 16:14 |
| henriquebastos | mango? #roftlmao | 16:15 |
| mgedmin | "comatose poke" | 16:15 |
| mgedmin | gooogle why you so slow | 16:15 |
| mgedmin | everyone please stop using wifi for a few seconds, 'k? | 16:15 |
| mishok13 | i can't find it | 16:15 |
| Jerub | mgedmin: sorry. | 16:15 |
| henriquebastos | davidcramer_: ok. i'm curious about your perspective of mongodb. | 16:15 |
| davidcramer_ | what do you want to know | 16:15 |
| henriquebastos | any beer plans? | 16:16 |
| davidcramer_ | :) | 16:16 |
| davidcramer_ | not yet | 16:16 |
| davidcramer_ | we will probably all gather somewhere tonight | 16:16 |
| henriquebastos | cool! i'm in. | 16:16 |
| d0ugal | Whatttt? We need to wait until tonight for beer? | 16:16 |
| davidcramer_ | d0ugal, river? | 16:16 |
| davidcramer_ | :) | 16:16 |
| d0ugal | Now? Let's rage quit on | 16:17 |
| d0ugal | mishok13 | 16:17 |
| d0ugal | Argh | 16:17 |
| d0ugal | iPad fail | 16:17 |
| davidcramer_ | hah | 16:17 |
| davidcramer_ | d0ugal, maybe after | 16:17 |
| davidcramer_ | i need to release new sentry versio real quick | 16:17 |
| davidcramer_ | waiting on travis ci | 16:17 |
| mishok13 | WAT | 16:17 |
| davidcramer_ | i practice release and leave strategy | 16:17 |
| d0ugal | mishok13: sorry, I meant mitsuhiko | 16:17 |
| d0ugal | davidcramer_: nice, I'm going to Adams talk anyhow | 16:18 |
| mishok13 | I'm humbled | 16:18 |
| davidcramer_ | d0ugal, ya im planning to his his too | 16:18 |
| mgedmin | guys! guys! listen! we could take statprof (which is based on signals, and therefore can only profile the main thread) and rewrite it using threads and sys._current_frame() to get a statistical profiler that works with multithreaded apps! | 16:18 |
| mishok13 | but I can open doors | 16:18 |
| henriquebastos | I'm already here waiting for adam's talk. | 16:18 |
| d0ugal | mishok13: of course, I knew something was different | 16:19 |
| davidcramer_ | d0ugal, where are you at in here | 16:19 |
| mgedmin | release-and-run is a time honored tradition, I'm sure | 16:19 |
| d0ugal | davidcramer_: 3rd row | 16:19 |
| davidcramer_ | haha | 16:19 |
| davidcramer_ | d0ugal, hopefully he pauses soon | 16:19 |
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| juD2k | I'm going out the window. | 16:21 |
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| davidcramer_ | deploying getsentry then bailing for adam's talk | 16:22 |
| mgedmin | I'm not finding anything on "comatose" or "comatoze" on pypi | 16:23 |
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| rbp | mgedmin: it's supposedly "comatose poke" or something, but I can't google it. I get results about pokemon :P | 16:25 |
| rbp | I think we were all trolled there... | 16:25 |
| mgedmin | 'zactly | 16:25 |
| davidcramer_ | k switching rooms | 16:26 |
| d0ugal | davidcramer_: dunno how to get out :/ | 16:27 |
| mishok13 | no free spots anymore | 16:27 |
| henriquebastos | rbp: ask andi at pyfidelity.com about "Comatose Poke". He was the guy talking about it. | 16:28 |
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| rbp | henriquebastos: "Hey, dude, can you show me the comatose poke?" Sounds dirty... :P | 16:28 |
| henriquebastos | rbp: just don't ask him to show you anything… just to give you a link. ;-P | 16:29 |
| mishok13 | whoa whoa, there's going to be code in the talk? | 16:30 |
| * mishok13 ragequits | 16:30 | |
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| davidcramer_ | lulz failscale | 16:34 |
| davidcramer_ | driinking game | 16:34 |
| davidcramer_ | everytime adam says failscale or truescale | 16:34 |
| davidcramer_ | you drink a shot | 16:34 |
| henriquebastos | counting... | 16:34 |
| davidcramer_ | I love when we share disqus stats | 16:35 |
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| mishok13 | can you share disqus money instead? | 16:35 |
| davidcramer_ | what money? ;) | 16:35 |
| mishok13 | damn | 16:35 |
| mishok13 | FUCK YEAH MANGODB | 16:35 |
| henriquebastos | davidcramer_: is happy now! lol | 16:36 |
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| davidcramer_ | :) | 16:36 |
| saley89 | Just waiting for Armin Ronacher's second go at his Flask talk | 16:36 |
| saley89 | really interested to see what he has to offer. | 16:37 |
| saley89 | anyone just been in the 1st run? | 16:37 |
| davidcramer_ | is he doing it twice? | 16:37 |
| davidcramer_ | wasnt sure if it was just extended talk or two talks | 16:37 |
| saley89 | I believe so | 16:37 |
| saley89 | or should I say I hope so! :D | 16:37 |
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| mishok13 | i see NorthIsUp likes to talk about details | 16:38 |
| mishok13 | "it does stuff" | 16:38 |
| davidcramer_ | haha | 16:38 |
| davidcramer_ | IMO the meat is the second half of the pres | 16:39 |
| davidcramer_ | or the "oh wow thats cool" | 16:39 |
| mishok13 | where's the code?! | 16:39 |
| davidcramer_ | though if you're not familiar w/ systems first half is useful | 16:39 |
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| * mishok13 is getting tired of ragequitting all the time | 16:39 | |
| davidcramer_ | theres not tons of code, since its mostly a "how does this work/scale" kind of thing, but theres a few slides w/ some random bits | 16:40 |
| davidcramer_ | its mostly around gevent | 16:40 |
| saley89 | He seems to be doing an informal, Q&A like session looking at different things | 16:40 |
| mishok13 | davidcramer_, are you happy with flask right now? | 16:40 |
| davidcramer_ | yep | 16:40 |
| davidcramer_ | also happy with django | 16:41 |
| saley89 | works great in our team | 16:41 |
| mishok13 | you're just a happy person | 16:41 |
| saley89 | and a little side project we had too | 16:41 |
| davidcramer_ | well i hate things just as much :) | 16:41 |
| saley89 | fairly good docs too | 16:41 |
| mishok13 | flask is great, but as soon as you start adding stuff like Flask-Celery, Flask-SQLAlchemy and others, you run into all kind of interesting issues | 16:41 |
| mishok13 | it seems that a lot of people have never done that and thus never experienced those issues | 16:42 |
| davidcramer_ | at that point you almost want to have just used django | 16:42 |
| saley89 | yeah I've only ever used basic flask | 16:42 |
| mishok13 | i wonder if that's why I got almost zero question after my talk | 16:43 |
| saley89 | Flask-Celery? | 16:43 |
| saley89 | what additions does this make? | 16:43 |
| mishok13 | no additions, it's just a basically a subclass of Celery class with Flask object correctly pickled | 16:44 |
| mishok13 | almost correctly | 16:44 |
| saley89 | forgive my ignorance. I still have a good amount of python to learn | 16:44 |
| saley89 | not sure what Celery is, I will go investigate :) | 16:45 |
| mishok13 | oh, that | 16:45 |
| davidcramer_ | saley89, queue layer for amqp | 16:45 |
| davidcramer_ | more or less | 16:45 |
| mishok13 | Celery is basically a queue framework | 16:45 |
| ladyrassilon | Celery is one of the more developed queues @saley | 16:45 |
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| saley89 | oh ok | 16:45 |
| ladyrassilon | its most capable implementation is on rabbitMQ | 16:45 |
| mishok13 | it's way cooler than Thoonk | 16:45 |
| mishok13 | j/k | 16:45 |
| ladyrassilon | but you can use it with redis/sqlite backend | 16:45 |
| saley89 | sounds nice | 16:45 |
| saley89 | thanks for explaining guys, rather than the usual flaming for not understanding something. much appreciated :) | 16:46 |
| mishok13 | it's also a complex piece of software with misleading documentation in places | 16:46 |
| ladyrassilon | yeh its given me some headaches over time | 16:46 |
| ladyrassilon | had it as the heart of the aftereffects server i built... | 16:47 |
| davidcramer_ | where do you book train tickets online for italy? | 16:47 |
| davidcramer_ | trenitalia seems to be good? | 16:47 |
| mishok13 | treinitalia | 16:47 |
| davidcramer_ | k | 16:47 |
| mishok13 | trenitalia, without i after e | 16:47 |
| saley89 | in a side note similar to the above. I am flying back home tomorrow evening from FLorence airport. Does anyone know the current situation with strikes in transport in Italy. FInding info is difficult. In english anyway | 16:49 |
| Jerub | i hate the word 'basically'. it is always a lie. | 16:49 |
| mishok13 | saley89, taxi always works | 16:49 |
| Jerub | treinitalia is awful and you will not be able to use the website unless the moon is a waxing gibbons. | 16:50 |
| mishok13 | it's going to be 25-30EUR to get to airport | 16:50 |
| Jerub | use the machines at the train station. | 16:50 |
| saley89 | mishok13, yeah that should be fine. I was meaning more the airport staff | 16:50 |
| davidcramer_ | it was 20 EUR from airport to downtown for us, but it was fixed price | 16:50 |
| saley89 | any issues there? | 16:50 |
| saley89 | yeah we saw in the taxi yesterday that we should have a fixed price of €20 | 16:50 |
| mishok13 | don't think so, at least people haven't been complaining | 16:51 |
| saley89 | ok cool | 16:51 |
| mishok13 | ah, 20EUR during daytime | 16:51 |
| saley89 | just worried we wouldn't get home tomorrow! | 16:51 |
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| mishok13 | I paid 23.30 because I arrived at 1AM | 16:51 |
| saley89 | yeah i think we will be heading off at 3/4pm | 16:51 |
| mishok13 | saley89, you would get an email from your airline if there was any delay planned | 16:52 |
| saley89 | yeah we did from the agent our company books through advising us of strikes. Although I think most are concentrated around Rome and such. | 16:52 |
| mishok13 | FAILSCALE SHOT | 16:53 |
| davidcramer_ | hah | 16:53 |
| mgedmin | oh joy | 16:53 |
| * mgedmin is going to Rome via train on Monday | 16:54 | |
| davidcramer_ | we are going to Rome on Sunday | 16:54 |
| saley89 | Unless i'm wrong, its only tomorrow that is affected? | 16:54 |
| davidcramer_ | i have a friend arriving from milan by train tomorrow | 16:54 |
| mishok13 | that would suck, 'cause I wanted to go to Pisa | 16:54 |
| davidcramer_ | hopefully it is ok | 16:54 |
| mishok13 | tomorrow | 16:55 |
| saley89 | yeah sorry to cause worry guys, but just trying to check the situation for everyones benefit! | 16:55 |
| Jerub | http://www.summerinitaly.com/planning/strike.asp apparently has the info we furriners need | 16:55 |
| mishok13 | I'm probably going to SMN station in the evening anyway, so I'll take some time to ask about the situation | 16:56 |
| saley89 | also why I am here, did anyone catch my talk this morning (Behaviour Driven Development at BSkyB) in Lasagne. If so i'd be happy to take questions. Just thought I'd mention | 16:56 |
| mishok13 | TRUESCALE SHOT | 16:57 |
| jezdez | truewebscale LOL | 16:57 |
| * henriquebastos drunk #truescale | 16:57 | |
| jezdez | davidcramer_: btw, was there a reason you NIH gargoyle instead of using waffle? | 16:57 |
| davidcramer_ | whats waffle | 16:58 |
| davidcramer_ | we wrote gargoyle lik 2 years ago | 16:58 |
| mishok13 | what's "reason"? | 16:58 |
| jezdez | davidcramer_: the mozilla feature flipper, https://github.com/jsocol/django-waffle/ | 16:58 |
| davidcramer_ | ya thats their NIH | 16:58 |
| davidcramer_ | :) | 16:58 |
| mgedmin | what do you use for monitoring at disqus? | 16:59 |
| davidcramer_ | gargoyle is 2 years old | 16:59 |
| davidcramer_ | waffle seems to be about a year | 16:59 |
| davidcramer_ | mgedmin, lots of stuff | 16:59 |
| mgedmin | hehe, a slide on stats just came up :) | 16:59 |
| mgedmin | graphite! | 16:59 |
| davidcramer_ | mgedmin, we use graphite + a bunch of stuff + nagios yet + pagerduty + sentry etc | 16:59 |
| mishok13 | goddammit i hate graphite | 16:59 |
| jezdez | davidcramer_: ah, yeah, didn't know gargoyle was that old, gotcha | 16:59 |
| davidcramer_ | jezdez, that said not sure why they didnt use gargoyle | 17:00 |
| saley89 | Nagios has just been introduced to our team. Opinions on it? | 17:00 |
| davidcramer_ | i thought i asked someone about it and they said they didnt know either | 17:00 |
| jezdez | mishok13: well "reason" is the thing that explains why someone does something | 17:00 |
| mishok13 | jezdez, i don't understand | 17:00 |
| mishok13 | why would you explain? | 17:00 |
| jezdez | uh | 17:00 |
| davidcramer_ | mishok13, he was asking why we wrote gargoyle instead of using waffle | 17:00 |
| mishok13 | joke gone too far, not funny anymore, sorry | 17:01 |
| jezdez | right | 17:01 |
| davidcramer_ | lol | 17:01 |
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| davidcramer_ | whos in for drinks by river after adam's talk? | 17:08 |
| henriquebastos | _o/ | 17:08 |
| d0ugal | davidcramer_: nah | 17:08 |
| davidcramer_ | d0ugal, juD2k you guys still in flask? | 17:08 |
| d0ugal | We are here | 17:08 |
| mgedmin | is the door locked? | 17:08 |
| davidcramer_ | we can ask mitsuhiko if he can get in | 17:08 |
| zerok | davidcramer_: i guess you just asked mitsuhiko ;-) | 17:09 |
| davidcramer_ | FYI you use XHR's onProgress stuff for streaming in JS | 17:11 |
| davidcramer_ | https://developer.mozilla.org/en/using_xmlhttprequest | 17:11 |
| davidcramer_ | http://pastie.org/private/zxbmupyik7vk2ywevxna | 17:12 |
| saley89 | guys, do you know when the talks from today are uploaded into the http://files.ep intranet site? | 17:12 |
| mgedmin | hm, from the stats slide, about expressing things as +1/-1 -- doesn't that lead to trouble if your process gets killed uncleanly? | 17:13 |
| Jerub | i was confused by that slide. shouldn't the only direction +1 ? | 17:15 |
| Jerub | if someone can write a non-awful monitoring framework? | 17:16 |
| mgedmin | #monitoringsucks | 17:16 |
| Jerub | http://opentsdb.net/ is the one he referenced, which is the only non-awful one i've found | 17:16 |
| Jerub | (and that's in java) | 17:16 |
| ulope | There is also reconnoiter (http://labs.omniti.com/labs/reconnoiter) which looks nice (can do awseome stuff like real time streaming of data from nodes) but configuration looks a bit daunting | 17:17 |
| Jerub | example is monitoring oracle :/ | 17:19 |
| ulope | Jerub: In the talk video thats linked from the page they are moitoring postgres | 17:20 |
| mgedmin | um, I'm confused about the gzip | 17:22 |
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| mgedmin | is gzipped data embedded inside a json message? | 17:22 |
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| mgedmin | (otherwise a \n byte inside the gzipped data would break framing, wouldn't it?) | 17:23 |
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| d0ugal | Coffee? Beer! | 17:28 |
| mgedmin | Earl Grey. Hot. | 17:29 |
| d0ugal | Wat | 17:29 |
| jezdez | Engage. | 17:29 |
| henriquebastos | beer | 17:29 |
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| zerok | we will probably go into town later on and just get into one of the restaurants recommended on tripadvisor | 18:29 |
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| Jarus | mitsuhiko: Please share your slides soon. I want to update Flask-MongoKit ;) | 18:37 |
| Jarus | I hope davidcramer_ doesn't read the name of the Flask extension and will jail mitsuhiko in his room without possibility to upload the slides. ;) | 18:39 |
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| ladyrassilon | I've got to say the leaving the chat room sound, is worryingly like a whip crack sound, even though thats a my client issue... | 19:01 |
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| mgedmin | 5% packet loss today | 19:14 |
| zerok | Jarus: ping | 19:18 |
| Jerub | we would've lost fewer if you weren't using up all the precious wifis with your pings | 19:18 |
| zerok | Jarus: ping | 19:19 |
| Jarus | zerok: pong | 19:19 |
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| zerok | ulope: ping | 19:20 |
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| saley89 | Hello all | 19:21 |
| saley89 | anyone explain how this Prize Draw works? | 19:22 |
| Jerub | saley89: sit. listen. receive prizes | 19:22 |
| saley89 | great! | 19:22 |
| saley89 | surely not everyone though! lol | 19:23 |
| Jerub | you registered on prizes.europython.org yesterday though? | 19:23 |
| saley89 | oh no! | 19:23 |
| saley89 | :( | 19:23 |
| Jerub | and added the 'prize' tag on your conf rego? | 19:23 |
| saley89 | I think this is not true! lol | 19:24 |
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| ladyrassilon | evil jerub! | 19:24 |
| saley89 | it was indeed evil. He had me going for a second! Grrrr | 19:25 |
| zerok | evil, they took the site offline :-P | 19:25 |
| ladyrassilon | that said I heard a rumour that the first prize is a lifetime supply of kittens... | 19:25 |
| saley89 | Great prize! | 19:25 |
| saley89 | :/ | 19:25 |
| saley89 | lol | 19:25 |
| ladyrassilon | in less kitten related news… the schedule seems to be broken... | 19:26 |
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| saley89 | it does indeed | 19:27 |
| saley89 | you cannot even see the prize draw now | 19:27 |
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| abach | next up: psf address? | 19:28 |
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| ladyrassilon | I tried to be cunning and added the prize draw to my schedule but that didn't give any more details | 19:30 |
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| saley89 | its all very secretive! | 19:31 |
| saley89 | and then Jerub tried to make me :( | 19:31 |
| ambv | from __future__ import prize_winner | 19:31 |
| saley89 | I never win anything anyway so I haven't got my hopes up! | 19:32 |
| saley89 | ha ha @ambv | 19:32 |
| ambv | prize_winner += __me__ | 19:32 |
| ladyrassilon | I'm going to say this to annoy stats geeks "I'm feeling hopeful because I'm often lucky with prize draws" | 19:33 |
| saley89 | ha ha | 19:33 |
| ladyrassilon | argh my multitouch driver has crashed on os x…*frustratingmuch* | 19:34 |
| saley89 | ouch | 19:34 |
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| zerok | among other stuff the psf does info presentations at the end of every python conference ;-) | 19:35 |
| saley89 | lol | 19:36 |
| saley89 | Am I right in thinking the PSF is invite only. | 19:37 |
| ladyrassilon | no there's two kind of memberships | 19:37 |
| Jerub | there are three types of memberships. corporate, nominated and associate. | 19:37 |
| saley89 | Why not have a member system where you could pay in monthly or something? | 19:37 |
| saley89 | oh ok | 19:37 |
| Jerub | associate memberships are for sale. | 19:37 |
| ambv | saley89: there are two ways of becoming a member | 19:37 |
| ambv | Jerub: +1 | 19:38 |
| saley89 | cool | 19:38 |
| ladyrassilon | there's the "you are awesome, here have a membership" membership, and there's a "I know I'm awesome can I buy a membership" membership | 19:38 |
| saley89 | ill look into that thanks | 19:38 |
| ambv | $100 a year. | 19:38 |
| Jerub | 99$/year, 79euro. | 19:38 |
| saley89 | oh nice | 19:38 |
| Jerub | psfmembers.org | 19:38 |
| Jerub | associate memberships are super-new. | 19:38 |
| saley89 | thanks for the info guys. Worth doing? | 19:38 |
| saley89 | perhaps i should of waited for the talk to tell me ha ha | 19:38 |
| ambv | yup, worth doing. | 19:39 |
| saley89 | cool. I'll keep it in mind | 19:40 |
| zerok | Jerub: is the site new or the link simply wrong? :-) | 19:41 |
| Jerub | psfmember.org | 19:41 |
| Jerub | not plural. | 19:41 |
| ladyrassilon | it was LIES! @zerok | 19:41 |
| ladyrassilon | woo, driver has reactivated | 19:41 |
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| zerok | Jerub: wow, that site looks like the default theme of drupal … 5 years ago :-) | 19:42 |
| Jerub | zerok: the time machine is on the fritz again | 19:43 |
| ladyrassilon | Send via PDF or JPG? | 19:43 |
| zerok | WTF | 19:43 |
| zerok | THAT PAGE IS DRUPAL! | 19:43 |
| Jarus | zerok: WTF | 19:44 |
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| ulope | Maybe they should use the first 200 new members donations to rebuild that page in python | 19:45 |
| ladyrassilon | I vote for Brighton, although I need a cattle prod to apply to some members of the BrightonPy community :P | 19:45 |
| Jerub | ladyrassilon: put together a bid :) | 19:46 |
| ladyrassilon | being very tempted to do so | 19:47 |
| david_boddie | Just don't use the beach as a selling point... | 19:47 |
| ladyrassilon | pyladies first, then europython | 19:48 |
| Jerub | it's a laptop skin. | 19:49 |
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| ambv | keep the skin, I'll take the laptop ;) | 19:50 |
| Jerub | some very unlucky people | 19:50 |
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| ambv | like someone famous said | 19:51 |
| ladyrassilon | prizedraw….. "He will win 'y' " I shouldn't need to grouch | 19:51 |
| ambv | "half of success is showing up" | 19:51 |
| Jerub | "Your font is too small?" | 19:51 |
| ladyrassilon | not that hat…. | 19:54 |
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| mishok13 | yay I won a tshirt | 19:57 |
| mishok13 | too bad I didn't the hat :( | 19:57 |
| mishok13 | *didn't get | 19:57 |
| rbp | mishok13: you can't pull off wearing a hat ;) | 19:57 |
| mishok13 | that would be awsome, wouldn't it? | 19:58 |
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| ladyrassilon | But its the kind of hat that everyone wants to be able to pull off | 20:00 |
| ladyrassilon | I'm hoping that if my name comes up and they think I'm german, I'll stand up and shout "I'm British!" | 20:01 |
| mishok13 | why would they think you're German? | 20:02 |
| mishok13 | is your last name Schmidt or something? | 20:02 |
| ladyrassilon | last name Hentsch, very unbritish | 20:02 |
| mishok13 | I was close :) | 20:03 |
| zerok | mishok13: :D | 20:03 |
| ladyrassilon | yup :P | 20:03 |
| Jerub | i liked the way to someone yelled 'or australian' | 20:03 |
| Jerub | i think that may've been someone i ate dinner with last night | 20:03 |
| mishok13 | you probably ate with 200 hundred people yesterday at PyFiorentina | 20:04 |
| ladyrassilon | Okay, my future son may be at dangerous risk of the name Balthazar, because thats an awesome name…. | 20:04 |
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| ambv | TheSheep: it was a close one | 20:07 |
| ladyrassilon | although Balthazar Hentsch might be pushing it too much… unless I were training him for future world domination | 20:07 |
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| Jerub | mishok13: i was only excessively australian to one table though | 20:08 |
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| ladyrassilon | not an Nexus 7!!! | 20:09 |
| ladyrassilon | sheer brass neck! | 20:09 |
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| Jerub | ladyrassilon: it was too late to get a nexus 7 :( | 20:11 |
| Jerub | ladyrassilon: we tried! | 20:11 |
| ladyrassilon | all right I'll let you off :P | 20:12 |
| ladyrassilon | still I wouldn't have objected with a 10" to play with | 20:12 |
| ladyrassilon | TAB | 20:12 |
| ladyrassilon | TAB TAB TAB | 20:13 |
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| ambv | what's a "sheer brass neck"? | 20:24 |
| Jerub | ambv: bad thing done like it's a good thing. | 20:24 |
| ambv | ah, I see. | 20:24 |
| ladyrassilon | or cheeky | 20:32 |
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| ladyrassilon | raspberry pi ordering tim | 20:34 |
| ladyrassilon | e | 20:34 |
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