IRC log of #europython for Thursday, 2009-07-02

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matti;]00:14
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mattiHi Tv00:18
Tvhi00:18
* Mez is sweating like a bitch00:46
MezTv, have you actually turned up @ the conference yet?00:46
TvMez: yeah since monday night00:47
MezCause I noticed your badge was still in with the registrations earlier.00:47
TvMez: i just haven't been awake when the registration was open00:47
TvMez: seriously horrible hours00:47
MezTv: find me tomorrow, I'll grab your badge for you00:47
TvMez: sweet, thanks00:47
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MezBe even more fun on the way back :D00:49
* Mez cant be arsed to go out tonight00:49
Meztoo warm.00:50
zarqso drink a couple of cold beers to cool off00:58
zarqmy excuse i'm too tired00:58
Mezzarq: that too.00:59
MezAs I said to ianto/brad... I didnt wanna lug my laptop round with me, and I knew as soon as  hit the hotel, I'd be like "ooh, bed"01:00
iantoMez: Nah blud01:03
Mezianto: ?01:03
matti;]01:03
iantoMez: I can't find Neville's key01:04
Mezianto: Find him tomorrow then01:07
Mezoh, neville hasnt uploaded his key yet it seems01:08
iantoHeh, d'oh!01:09
MezNor has Floris or Eva01:09
mattiEva?01:10
mattiThis lovely young lady?01:10
iantoI just uploaded Ciarán's key though01:10
iantomatti is rambling away in Polish here :p01:12
mattiO_o01:12
matti;D01:12
mattiIts actually... geeky-polish.01:14
matti;D01:14
iantomatti: Nac ydy, mae fe'n Polish sili01:15
LarstiQianto: that's not always considered polite to do, no clueif Ciarán minds01:15
mattiHi LarstiQ ;]01:15
LarstiQhey matti :)01:15
iantoLarstiQ: Huh?01:15
LarstiQianto: maybe I should not drop into the middle of things01:15
iantoLarstiQ: Okie dokes01:16
LarstiQianto: this is about gpg key signing, right?01:16
iantoLarstiQ: Ja01:16
MezLarstiQ: ypou were at the kesigning.01:17
Mez?01:17
LarstiQianto: and you signed someone's key, and then uploaded the key with your signature to a keyserver?01:17
LarstiQMez: no01:17
iantoLarstiQ: Yeah he asked me to...01:17
LarstiQso I don't know what got covered there01:17
LarstiQianto: ah ok, then it is perfectly fine :)01:17
Mezianto: use caff :D01:18
LarstiQcaff \o/01:18
* ianto googles Caff01:18
iantoIss that slang for Cardiff or summit?01:18
Mezcaff = CA fire and Forget01:18
MezIt's an automated signing tool01:18
Mezsudo apt-get install signing-party01:18
LarstiQianto: part of signing-party Debian package01:18
LarstiQ(and a perl script otherwise)01:18
* ianto installs signing parting01:18
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mattiI am singing in the rain...01:20
mattiLalalala.01:20
iantoI've got like 5 minute battery life and left my  adaptor at the uni, so bye  for now01:26
CaptSoloheh, conference irc chat gets much livelier at night01:43
mattiNot really ;]01:43
mattiWe play Idel RPG in here.01:43
matti;]01:43
mattis/Idel/Idle/01:43
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* chrisw wonders why his body hates him so much....10:36
DuncFwere you in the wellington last night?10:36
chriswmaybe...10:36
chrisw...10:36
DuncFthat's probably your answer ;-)10:36
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mikaelmoutakisgood morning everyone!11:19
MetalJoemorning11:20
mikaelmoutakisIs there anyone out there who has used django and the metaweblog api?11:20
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MetalJoenot me, nope - still a bit of a n00b with Django11:22
MetalJoehave you put up an Open Space slot?11:22
mikaelmoutakisgood idea11:23
MetalJoeIt doesn't happen often wth me :-)11:23
ronnysup11:29
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Tverrr that's not what @inlineCallbacks is about11:42
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Tvthere's no "code that you typed in again and again" problem that it solved11:42
Tvit lets you move from explicit callbacks to stuff between yields in a generator, that's it11:43
MetalJoeokay11:43
TheSheepTv: and explicit callbacks is not stuff you have to type over and over again?11:43
dreimarkwrong font11:43
TvTheSheep: i don't see it as comparable to e.g. @accepts arg checking or @memoize vs hand-written memoize inside the function11:44
TvTheSheep: those are basically refactorings that extract the common bit; @inlineCallbacks is a totally different programming model11:45
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ambv__hello__()12:03
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TvYes, it is true. Most ruby programmers are smug bastards.12:20
MetalJoehehe12:20
Tvalso, seriously, i don't take metaprogramming commentary from someone who does web apps for a living..12:21
MetalJoe:-)12:21
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Tvif you're head *is* hurting, you need caffeine12:28
Tv*your12:28
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* SafPlusPlus grins at Tv12:54
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czarnythe conference wifi network is soooo buggy13:39
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TheSheepmeh13:40
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NailorYeah, it has it's features13:40
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TvNailor: what does?13:46
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NailorTv: the wifi here :p13:47
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TvNailor: awesome way to make your point, have my wifi fail13:48
Nailor:D13:51
NailorAll lightning talk slots were gone. Darn.13:51
TvNailor: they usually always all gone, have been since like ~2005 conference or so13:52
NailorYeah13:52
NailorThey still had slots yesterday (I think), but I came up with the idea of lightningtalk yesterday night :)13:52
NailorOr kind of decided to have it13:52
Tvit's almost as if 5 minutes were too long ;)13:53
Tvlet's move to 1 minute lightning talks so we can cram more in13:53
Nailorhoh13:53
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NailorBut yeah, I've rewritten a plugin for nose testing framework to test django apps with it, and people were quite interested about it13:54
NailorWell, now I got a year to polish it more ;)13:54
Tvwrite a blog entry13:54
NailorI don't have a blog, that's a problem =P13:55
NailorAnd even if I would have one, don't know who would read it13:55
NailorMaybe I'll just tweet and see what happens :p13:55
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NailorTv: Slides ready? ;)13:59
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LarstiQNailor: throw an impromptu bof?13:59
Nailorwha?13:59
Nailor:D13:59
Nailorhmm. Oh hai Europython o/14:00
NailorIRC on the screen ftw14:00
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Tvwave to the Adran Whatshisname Hall14:00
ambvhello ABH14:00
ambv:)14:01
* SafPlusPlus highfives Nailor 14:01
toidinamaiHello.14:01
* Nailor highfives back14:01
Tvnice drilling14:01
ambvthere went my 5 mins of fame14:01
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Tv5.1 minutes14:02
NailorOh yay14:02
* huin waves to the room14:02
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dreimark!ABH14:09
dreimarkno bot :(14:09
TheSheep?14:09
TheSheepyou are in abh now14:09
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MezABH is Actual Bodily Harm. This is not permitted at EuroPython14:09
dreimarkwanted to get the "long" name14:09
Mezdreimark: Adrian Boult Hall14:10
xorAxAx13:08:06 -!- Irssi: New peak in #europython@freenode : 4414:10
Mez;D14:10
TheSheepMez: you are here somewhere?14:10
xorAxAxqwertyface: you win a free pocoo license14:10
MezTheSheep: I'm in the crew room at the moment, what's up ?14:10
TheSheepMez: nothing specific, just wanted to meet you once we have an opportunity14:11
MezWell, I'm about to go for a smoke out frint, then go start getting them to wrap up the clean code challenge.14:11
Mezfront *14:11
qwertyfacexorAxAx: Wha?14:11
TheSheepqwertyface: you lucky fellow!14:12
xorAxAxqwertyface: you are #44 in this channel!14:12
* Mez -> afk14:12
xorAxAxqwertyface: and you have a chance of winning a free hatta license14:12
TheSheepxorAxAx: nah, I'm not giving any away!14:12
TheSheepmy precious14:12
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* qwertyface googles Pocoo14:13
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TheSheephehe14:13
xorAxAxthats how marketing works14:13
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xorAxAx13:13:42 -!- Irssi: New peak in #europython@freenode : 4514:13
xorAxAxdanfairs_: you win a free pocoo license as well!14:14
qwertyfaceI hadn't realised there was a channel until it was on the ABH screen14:14
TheSheepit here since quite some months14:15
TheSheepit's14:15
qwertyfacegtg, battery is dying :-(14:15
chriswmonths? I count about 4 years now ;-)14:15
qwertyfaceeyB14:15
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TheSheepchrisw: that's 48 months, isn't it?14:16
TheSheepchrisw: it's here since quite some seconds, if you prefer14:16
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matti;]14:21
mattifor name in #freenode-gms: poke name14:21
matti;]14:21
TheSheepmatti: ABEND: Error #3463814:22
mattiHahaha14:22
MetalJoe:-)14:23
mattiTheSheep: Nice try ;p14:23
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mattiBut.14:23
mattiYou are quite right.14:23
mattiI have failed ;]14:23
mattiAs this is #europython14:23
matti;p14:24
mattiEmm...14:24
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TheSheepI wonder what are thechances of getting that fs thing into stdlib14:28
mattiWhat fs thing?14:29
dreimarkis it also in hg?14:32
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holizzqueue is so long!14:48
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zarqcan anyone give a lightning talk about python+fuse?15:24
tobixenI swear I'll never more drink anymore ... at least until the evening15:25
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SafPlusPlusSo... what to sprint at...? Kinda feels like I've seen so many interesting things that the free-for-all seems like the only option, so I can just happily hack along. :)15:29
qwertyfacexorAxAx: Are you about?15:29
xorAxAxqwertyface: why=?15:30
qwertyfaceYou said I'd won a license :-)15:31
xorAxAxyes, thats true15:31
xorAxAxwait for the prize draw15:31
qwertyfaceCool, OK15:32
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TheSheepzarq: maybe schedule an openspace about it, then more clueless people will come and maybe somehow together you will get to something? :)15:35
TheSheepxorAxAx: drawing licenses for free and opensource software is evil15:35
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zarqTheSheep: i don't think there are any more openspaces, except for the short breaks15:41
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TheSheepzarq: you don't have to schedule it in the band room15:41
TheSheepzarq: that room just next to the whiteboards works well15:41
zarqi mean the rest is just plenary talks, like steve's15:42
TheSheepthere are breaks too15:43
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TheSheepanyways, do as you wish :)15:43
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zarqfair enough15:44
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parag0ncan anyone remember what that game library there was a lightning talk about yesterday was called?15:48
parag0ni had it in my head it was pyphoenix, but if so, its ungooglable15:49
MetalJoepygame phoenix?15:49
GReapergoogle doesn't seem to give anything interesting for that either15:50
MetalJoemy mind might be playing tricks though15:51
MetalJoenope, just checked :-(15:51
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MetalJoeunless it's spelt weirdly like fynix or something15:52
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parag0nugh, stupid wifi15:53
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voidspacein the Adrian Boult hall15:54
voidspaceexpecting to lose wifi any minute...15:54
parag0ni already switched to 3g :P15:54
MetalJoeheh15:54
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parag0npity i only have 30 minutes of battery :(15:54
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GReaperneed better wifi!15:56
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ambvGReaper: go to Starbucks ;)15:57
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GReaperlet's move the next talk there!15:59
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* Mez is too warm16:04
MezSorry for now twitter screen this lunch! I was busy :D16:05
MetalJoeno worries - IRC is far more civilised :-)16:05
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TheSheephell yes :)16:06
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MetalJoewhere can I get one of those noobs from? :-)16:07
MetalJoeand that hat16:08
parag0ni want a propeler beanie :(16:08
parag0nSTEAL IT16:08
MetalJoeyes16:08
MetalJoewe'll get him outside16:08
Mezhmm?16:08
* Mez has first dibs for stealing things.16:08
MezThey're kept in the crew room16:08
MetalJoeheh16:08
* Mez chuckles16:09
Mez"This power adapter makes me want to cry"16:09
Mez(quote from ianto)16:09
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parag0nMez, i'll give you ?5 if you make me win the raffle16:09
MezFuck that, I want to win it.16:14
MezAnd I cant see the bucket.16:14
parag0nooh, is there one for brum16:16
iantoMez found his ticket...16:17
MezSssh...16:18
MezD16:18
Mez:D *16:18
parag0n  it'd be easier to just steal the prize...16:18
TheSheepbut then you don't get to shake the hand of the people who give it to you16:19
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parag0nwinning it would amke me happy purely because i'd wipe windows off it and try to return the license to microsoft :P16:20
MetalJoegood work16:20
parag0nalso, another lapto to add to my collection ;)16:20
MetalJoeheh16:20
parag0ngah, out of battery :(16:22
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Mezhttp://www.flickr.com/photos/mezzle/3681747600/16:31
NailorHah16:32
Mez:D16:33
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ronnyhi16:59
ronnywhere will the sprints be?16:59
xorAxAxtomorrow here, on saturday in cbso building16:59
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aa_requirements: must be wearing an xkcd-branded import antigravity t-shirt17:00
aa_otherwise you will not be permitted access17:00
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parag0n5 german minutes is 3.5 english minutes17:11
parag0njudging by yesterday17:12
SafPlusPlus:P17:12
huin"3.5 of your earth minutes"?17:12
parag0nwe need a big red button for when the talks are over17:13
SafPlusPlusWith a python device driver?17:13
parag0nyeah17:13
parag0nand hooked into the AV system, o it turns the person off17:13
parag0nmaybe the lights too17:13
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parag0ntee hee, gay sql17:20
SafPlusPlus /me spocks.17:21
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SafPlusPlusBrilliant donation bag routing... :)17:27
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mikaelmoutakis_Got the blue binder!!! w00t17:30
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SafPlusPlusDo you need bandages with that?17:31
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parag0nooh, graphs <317:32
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SafPlusPlusSome pretty photos thre...17:43
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SafPlusPluslol @ fschk17:47
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parag0nfsck in 5 minutes17:47
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parag0nor the UK :P17:49
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SafPlusPluslol17:51
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SafPlusPlusgood talk17:52
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czarnythat rocked :)17:52
ambvthis was very cool :)17:53
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xorAxAxboring lightning talk18:15
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SafPlusPlusLooks pretty nice, actualy...18:24
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SafPlusPlusfrom _future__ import antigravity?18:29
xorAxAxwifi was fast when chris was talking18:34
xorAxAxeverybody was listening :)18:35
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SafPlusPlushehe18:39
SafPlusPlusHonestly, too high a level of fearmongering...18:40
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parag0naye, this whole jackbooted riaa thugs thing screams hyperbole18:40
ambvparag0n: maybe, but then again you weren't the crippled 80-year old lady who was accused of downloading gangsta rap18:42
SafPlusPlusI don't dissagree that it's important, but forcing opinion onto people by trying to scare them is bad...18:43
SafPlusPluscat /proc/something anyone?18:44
SafPlusPlusThen again, nice to have python handles for it.18:44
parag0ni've done it using HAL before, but that was linux only18:44
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SafPlusPlusIn general which platforms seem to have the fewest  external display issues...?18:46
parag0nubuntu18:47
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nick_fnAnyone got functest or py.test working with a windmill test script? windmill.settings doesn't appear; I'm not sure how to set TEST_URL etc.18:50
SafPlusPlusslide++18:53
SafPlusPlusWhat's with the fancy slide transitions?18:59
NailorWhat does (yield) do?19:01
NailorDoes it have some special funky thingie when it's in parentheses19:01
ronnyits an expression19:01
ronnyyou can pass data in19:01
Nailoroh19:01
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nick_fnIs there still CAcert and/or GPG key signing?19:09
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ambv:))19:23
ambvWhat can you do with an XBox?19:23
cfbolzsell it/19:24
cfbolz?19:24
ambvnah.19:24
zarqwatch copyright-free dvds on them19:24
ambvselling prizes seems a waste.19:24
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zarqonly to those who spent money on a ticket that didn't win19:28
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holizzSo hungry.19:54
Rainseat then19:54
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holizzIs anybody sprinting this evening?19:57
Mezmatti: did you duck out on the final thing ?19:57
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MezTv: did you get your bag ?19:58
Mezbadge19:58
TvMez: yes19:58
TvMez: i woke up 5:30am this morning19:58
Tvjetlag ftw/l19:58
Mezgood to hear :D19:58
Tvhours slept per night in recent history: 7, 2, 5, 519:59
Tvunghghghr19:59
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Mezmatti: not answering your hone, not on IRC. Is he alive ?20:01
Mezphoe *20:01
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zarqanyone going for beers tonight?22:03
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tobixenI didn't eat breakfast yet22:35
tobixenanyone else up for food?22:35
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