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| ghum | good evening | 19:18 |
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| xorAxAx | good evening precursor of python for the enterprise | 19:18 |
| ghum | allwayas include ncc1701 | 19:21 |
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| tartley_ | Evening all. Tartley is Jonathan Hartley | 19:58 |
| CMooney | Anyone willing to chair the meeting? | 19:59 |
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| Martin_Hellwig | aloha | 20:00 |
| CMooney | Hey | 20:01 |
| Martin_Hellwig | how are you doing Ciaràn ? | 20:01 |
| CMooney | pretty good (Hint, almost right with the accent is the other way á) | 20:02 |
| Martin_Hellwig | oops I mean Ciarián | 20:02 |
| Martin_Hellwig | without the extra I :-) | 20:02 |
| CMooney | lol! Too many i's! | 20:02 |
| CMooney | :) | 20:02 |
| CMooney | Get much sleep in the past few days? | 20:03 |
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| qwright | hi | 20:03 |
| CMooney | Hi q | 20:03 |
| Martin_Hellwig | not really, but it is for a good cause, I hope :) | 20:03 |
| Martin_Hellwig | Hey Q | 20:03 |
| qwright | hi martin | 20:04 |
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| qwright | hi john | 20:04 |
| Martin_Hellwig | Hello John | 20:04 |
| pinner | hello all | 20:04 |
| CMooney | Hi John. You made it! | 20:04 |
| CMooney | Problem is Martin_Hellwig, that it takes about 16 years to find out :) | 20:05 |
| pinner | i have a poor connection, and probably have to get out of this room soon | 20:05 |
| qwright | so should we start now? | 20:05 |
| pinner | so will someone else run the meeting, please | 20:05 |
| pinner | I'd just like to make sure that we discuss Yusdi's proposal for the handouts at some time | 20:06 |
| CMooney | I was going to mention that too. in AOD. | 20:06 |
| CMooney | *AOB | 20:06 |
| CMooney | What does a chair have to do? I don't mind. | 20:07 |
| pinner | OK, so I need not worry about it | 20:07 |
| pinner | CMooney: follow the agenda, and try and keep it kind of on-track | 20:07 |
| pinner | CMooney: and see that someone (usually Nick) records decisions | 20:08 |
| CMooney | Nick? Are you here? | 20:08 |
| pinner | CMooney: and make sure yourself that decisions are made where needed, including assigning actions to people | 20:09 |
| CMooney | Ok. Think I have all that. This'll be one for the CV. :) Does it come under "herding cats"? | 20:09 |
| pinner | CMooney: definitely | 20:10 |
| CMooney | Anyone willing to take Nick's place and record minuets/decisions? | 20:10 |
| qwright | OK I'll do it | 20:10 |
| CMooney | Thanks. | 20:10 |
| pinner | as long as someone is keeping an IRC log, a lot is covered. Is anyone keeping a log? | 20:10 |
| CMooney | If I knew how I would. I could just copy and paste the XChat IRC window. | 20:11 |
| tartley_ | the one at http://mg.pov.lt appears to be logging this meeting correctly | 20:11 |
| tartley_ | specifically http://mg.pov.lt/europython-irclog/%23europython.2009-01-27.log.html | 20:11 |
| pinner | so we will have to get the log from marius: it's covered | 20:12 |
| CMooney | OOO pretty. | 20:12 |
| mgedmin | pinner: you want the plain-text version? drop the .html from the url | 20:12 |
| CMooney | I'm logging it too, I think. | 20:12 |
| pinner | CMooney: so you can start | 20:13 |
| CMooney | Right. | 20:13 |
| CMooney | First item : Apologies. | 20:13 |
| pinner | mgedmin: yes, thanks | 20:13 |
| pinner | we have apologies from yusdi | 20:13 |
| pinner | don't know of any others | 20:13 |
| * jacob22 apologises for being here. | 20:13 | |
| CMooney | And I'll remember to mention his booklets in AOB. | 20:13 |
| * pinner winks at jacob22 | 20:14 | |
| CMooney | For those of you who would like to read Yushdi's suggestion before we get to it, http://mail.python.org/mailman/private/europython-improve/2009-January/000529.html | 20:14 |
| CMooney | If there are no more. | 20:14 |
| CMooney | Second item : Review actions from last meeting. | 20:14 |
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| CMooney | I wasn't here for that meeting. But the agenda mentions the europython..org domain, and trying to get it all over to europytoon.eu | 20:15 |
| qwright | have we a link to the actions list? | 20:16 |
| pinner | The europython.org dns transfer is complete, thanks to mal | 20:16 |
| CMooney | John has asked, "what mail addresses do we want set up for europython.eu/europython.org? I have no idea of what has been in use | 20:16 |
| CMooney | historically." | 20:16 |
| CMooney | qwright, I don't have one. pinner? | 20:16 |
| nickbooker | qwright: i'm still in the middle of writing it. Sorry :-*) | 20:16 |
| ghum | CMooney: we need email-adresses for "functions" | 20:17 |
| ghum | and they should be connected to mailinglists | 20:17 |
| jacob22 | I suggest that we drop all references to europython.org, since the owner is so unwilling to let go of the domain. | 20:17 |
| ghum | like "trackchairs@ep.eu", or "talks@ep.eu" | 20:17 |
| ghum | and "sponsoring@ep.eu" | 20:17 |
| pinner | the important thing is we need to know what addresses are out there in use on europython.org | 20:17 |
| pinner | so we don't lose anything | 20:18 |
| CMooney | So emails send to either "talks@ep.eu" and "sponsorship@ep.eu" end up on our mailing list? | 20:18 |
| pinner | on europython.eu we can set up whatever we need now | 20:18 |
| CMooney | Can we get a forward set up from europython.org emails forwared to ep.eu equivalents? | 20:18 |
| pinner | we have some mailing lists, which go to python.org, like europython and europython-improve | 20:19 |
| Martin_Hellwig | wasnt the for the org domain set to one of the mail servers in our control? | 20:19 |
| Martin_Hellwig | the mx records I mean | 20:19 |
| pinner | CMooney: yes, but we need to know what they are, we don't want to accept just any old spam if we can avoid it | 20:19 |
| jacob22 | We have had europython, europython-announce, europython-improve and europython-contact. I think also a europython-admin or something. I don't know of any more | 20:20 |
| pinner | Martin_Hellwig: yes | 20:20 |
| CMooney | Of course. Can we get a list of currently used emails from the current owner? | 20:20 |
| pinner | jacob22: they are mailing lists | 20:20 |
| pinner | CMooney: not that I know of | 20:20 |
| CMooney | Can someone do it the hard way and look through the old website for references? | 20:21 |
| pinner | CMooney: sounds like a reasonable idea, we just need a volunteer! | 20:22 |
| Martin_Hellwig | Well I fail to see if this is really neccesary, if we just set up that all org mails go to the mail list, the we can answer from the new eu domain | 20:22 |
| CMooney | Right. First, where is the old site. Then we need a volunteer to get the old email addresses. Once we have them do we set up equivalents on ep.eu or can we get them forwarded? | 20:22 |
| tartley_ | Is it amenable to a grep-like search, or are you thinking of a manual click-on-all-links then search on page for '@|at' | 20:23 |
| CMooney | tartley_, As long as you know how to grep (I don't. I'm a sledgehammer to crack a nut kinda guy). | 20:24 |
| CMooney | Martin_Hellwig, I think we are trying to cut down on possible spam. (See Johns comment) | 20:24 |
| pinner | CMooney: the old site is linked to from the new | 20:24 |
| pinner | CMooney:specifically it is ep2008.org, I think | 20:25 |
| pinner | CMooney: and there is a page on the new site which links to all the old sites | 20:25 |
| CMooney | http://www.europython2008.eu/ | 20:25 |
| CMooney | Is the old site. | 20:26 |
| Martin_Hellwig | CMooney, okay but this is just for a year, next year we can drop the forward | 20:26 |
| Martin_Hellwig | and piping through spamassassin will help a lot I think | 20:26 |
| pinner | http://europython.eu/about/ has the links to all old sites | 20:27 |
| * pinner is about to be thrown out of this room | 20:27 | |
| pinner | is there anything specific you need from me before I leave? | 20:28 |
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| pinner | hello richard | 20:28 |
| Richard_Smedley | Hello John, apologies for lateness, etc. | 20:29 |
| pinner | Richard_Smedley: and I apologise for having to leave early; CMooney is chairing this meeting | 20:29 |
| pinner | so no questions for me? | 20:30 |
| * pinner waves good night | 20:30 | |
| Martin_Hellwig | not from me, good night john | 20:31 |
| Richard_Smedley | Hello Ciaran, I'll just sit quietly at the back, and pay attention ;-) | 20:31 |
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| qwright | CMooney: All seems to have gone quiet? | 20:35 |
| Martin_Hellwig | yes we are waiting on our leader to guide us :-) | 20:35 |
| fuzzyman | damn | 20:35 |
| fuzzyman | forgot | 20:35 |
| fuzzyman | sorry | 20:35 |
| qwright | OK !! Ciaran is chairing | 20:36 |
| qwright | fuzzyman: and hello too! | 20:36 |
| fuzzyman | hello everyone | 20:37 |
| Martin_Hellwig | hello | 20:38 |
| tartley_ | hey | 20:38 |
| Martin_Hellwig | Ciarán, next agenda point? | 20:41 |
| nickbooker | what's the current agenda point? (I arrived late - sorry) | 20:44 |
| ThomasWaldmann | moin :) | 20:44 |
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| CMooney_ | Hello! | 20:44 |
| CMooney_ | Sorry my internet connection died. | 20:44 |
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| zeth | Hi | 20:44 |
| qwright | Hi Zeth | 20:45 |
| nickbooker | hi zeth | 20:45 |
| CMooney_ | Was there any progres on the email discussion? | 20:45 |
| Martin_Hellwig | nope we waited on our fearless leader ;-) | 20:45 |
| zeth | Sorry I have been in random movement in Germany all day | 20:45 |
| zeth | I am reading the scrollback now | 20:45 |
| CMooney_ | Sorry to all. My internet connection died. And I've been running around getting it working again. | 20:46 |
| CMooney_ | I'll leave the emails until the next meeting then. As its getting late | 20:46 |
| CMooney_ | Next Item : Wiki | 20:46 |
| Martin_Hellwig | ack | 20:46 |
| CMooney_ | * Styling - Any news from Radomir, TheSheep? | 20:46 |
| CMooney_ | * Structure - no comments, everyone seems happy. | 20:46 |
| CMooney_ | * Population - some people have started this. Thanks Ciaran, input from more people would be welcome. | 20:46 |
| CMooney_ | * Organisers' pages - see wiki.europython.eu/Organisers Nick to update. | 20:47 |
| CMooney_ | Thats from the agenda. | 20:47 |
| CMooney_ | So TheSheep? Any news? | 20:47 |
| ThomasWaldmann | (in case he does not respond: he was very busy on other stuff, so not much news) | 20:48 |
| CMooney_ | K. Shall we finish discussing the styling of the Wiki then? Assume it has all been sorted? | 20:48 |
| CMooney_ | Nothing? So wiki styling sorted. | 20:49 |
| * ThomasWaldmann will upgrade the wiki to 1.8.2 after its release :) | 20:49 | |
| CMooney_ | Ok. As long as it works! | 20:49 |
| CMooney_ | :) | 20:49 |
| ThomasWaldmann | sure | 20:49 |
| CMooney_ | Nothing to worry about the structure. Took me 2 secs to figure out there were multiple tabs, but that seems logical. | 20:49 |
| CMooney_ | Population of Wiki. | 20:50 |
| ThomasWaldmann | lol, conference widows | 20:50 |
| CMooney_ | I've done quite a bit of copying and pasting from the PyConUK wiki. So it looks a bit fuller now. However it still needs some love. Mainly the FAQ section. There are some questions that I cannot answer, and not even sure there is an answer yet. | 20:50 |
| CMooney_ | http://wiki.europython2009.eu/FAQ | 20:51 |
| ThomasWaldmann | btw, I would suggest having ONLY the wiki for room sharing coordination, not wiki and ml | 20:51 |
| CMooney_ | There is "How expensive is this conference?" , When is booking opening? and How can I contact the organisers? | 20:51 |
| zeth | Cheaper by the day if you are in the eurozone ;) | 20:52 |
| CMooney_ | ThomasWaldmann, Not sure how we could prevent people from not using the mailing list. I hoped it would be useful to have. | 20:52 |
| zeth | We did have a date for booking opening | 20:52 |
| CMooney_ | More importantly the wiki needs to be publicised more. | 20:52 |
| CMooney_ | zeth, When is that, and I'll add it to the wiki. | 20:52 |
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| zeth | It was in the dates we sent before, but they were perhaps optimistic? | 20:54 |
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| ThomasWaldmann | CMooney_: you can't prevent it, but I guess it would be better coordination and a single point where to look if it was not suggested on the wiki to use the mailing list for that | 20:54 |
| zeth | I don't have a very strong signal here so I am not going to search through the emails. | 20:54 |
| fuzzyman | Sorry - my internet is misbehaving | 20:54 |
| fuzzyman | What is the cost for the conference? | 20:54 |
| zeth | Booking opens when we are ready I suppose | 20:54 |
| zeth | I am not aware that has been decided yet | 20:55 |
| fuzzyman | I added us to a Microsoft calendar (DeveloperFusion) and had to guess :-) | 20:55 |
| zeth | What number did you make up? | 20:55 |
| * ThomasWaldmann gtg / bbl in 15mins (will read backlog) | 20:55 | |
| CMooney_ | Do we have a vauge month even? | 20:55 |
| zeth | vague month? We have an exact date | 20:56 |
| qwright | CMooney: Registration opens 14th Feb (St Valentine's Day) | 20:56 |
| fuzzyman | zeth: I think I used last years figure for PyCon UK | 20:56 |
| zeth | Or for the booking (I thought you meant the conference) | 20:56 |
| CMooney_ | ThomasWaldmann, I agree, that may be better. Point people at the wiki in the opening booking announcement? | 20:56 |
| fuzzyman | zeth: I think I can edit it if it changes though | 20:56 |
| zeth | 14th Feb is the date | 20:56 |
| CMooney_ | zeth, Brilliant I'll add that to the wiki later. | 20:56 |
| CMooney_ | unless someone gets there before me. | 20:57 |
| qwright | CMooney: Deadline for Talk Submissions: 1st April (All Fool's Day) | 20:57 |
| zeth | I think we might need to ask pinner, qwright et al if we are ready? | 20:57 |
| CMooney_ | lol. K. Will add that too. If it's not already there. | 20:57 |
| ghum | and ladys registering on 14th will get a flower in addition to their badge | 20:57 |
| CMooney_ | zeth, qwright seems very confident at the moment. | 20:57 |
| CMooney_ | ghum, What do the men get?? | 20:57 |
| CMooney_ | ... | 20:57 |
| zeth | since they do the shopping cart | 20:57 |
| qwright | CMooney: Schedule Published: 14th May 2009 | 20:57 |
| CMooney_ | Q is sending me dates as we speak. | 20:58 |
| zeth | Well I am assuming we are using all the same booking stuff as last year, if so then it won't take too long. | 20:58 |
| fuzzyman | any update on number of talks submitted? | 20:58 |
| CMooney_ | Can the wiki be made promonent/suggested in any announcements as the place to go for info etc. | 20:58 |
| zeth | Has moreati been around the hotels yet? | 20:59 |
| fuzzyman | sounds good | 20:59 |
| fuzzyman | wiki has been underused | 20:59 |
| zeth | I think finances will be worked out when we know what conference hotel we are using. | 20:59 |
| CMooney_ | zeth, Not yet. He will be doing it soon as far as I know. | 20:59 |
| ghum | CMooney_: they get to pay for the flower. | 20:59 |
| qwright | zeth: He didn't come on Saturday - we have heard nothing about hotels | 20:59 |
| zeth | since for most people the hotel will be the biggest cost | 20:59 |
| CMooney_ | qwright, Yes he did. I sat next to him. Unless I imagined it.... He said he would look around hotels during his lunch break. | 21:00 |
| CMooney_ | Last on the wiki bit is. | 21:00 |
| qwright | CMooney: Oops | 21:00 |
| CMooney_ | * Organisers' pages - see wiki.europython.eu/Organisers Nick to update. | 21:00 |
| CMooney_ | nickbooker, any news? | 21:00 |
| zeth | Last year's europython fees are here: http://www.europython2008.eu/Registration | 21:01 |
| nickbooker | I'm putting up the actions etc from the last meeting as I speak. Sorry it's late. | 21:01 |
| zeth | They seem a bit high? | 21:01 |
| zeth | considering the credit crunch, and the rate of the pound? | 21:01 |
| qwright | nickbooker: where will they be? | 21:01 |
| CMooney_ | nickbooker, Ok. Is there anything else worth adding to the organisers page. I tried to start a team page on the wiki, put it under the Helping tab (http://wiki.europython.eu/Helping) | 21:02 |
| zeth | 160 euros is a lot these days | 21:02 |
| nickbooker | But linked to from /MeetingActions | 21:02 |
| CMooney_ | http://wiki.europython.eu/MeetingActions | 21:02 |
| nickbooker | I haven't got anything for MeetingNumber3 - I think that was the one on new year. | 21:03 |
| CMooney_ | If you don't have anything, then we can't put it up! :) | 21:03 |
| nickbooker | too true | 21:03 |
| zeth | PyConUK was 90 pound standard, 65 pound extra-early bird, and 75 not so early bird. | 21:04 |
| zeth | Europython last year was 160 euros standard, 100 euros early | 21:04 |
| CMooney_ | zeth, We will have to leave that discussion until another time. As we don't have any input from Alex about hotels etc. | 21:04 |
| CMooney_ | Maybe add it to the next meetings agenda? | 21:04 |
| CMooney_ | Anything more about the wiki? | 21:05 |
| zeth | nope | 21:05 |
| zeth | good stuff | 21:05 |
| ghum | gtg | 21:06 |
| ghum | bye! | 21:06 |
| CMooney_ | Then to summarise. Styling - Done, Structure - Done, populating - being done, and the wiki should be mentioned in announcements for coordinating effort. I will add important dates to the FAQ and other relavant parts of the wiki. | 21:06 |
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| CMooney_ | Next Item : Talks. | 21:06 |
| CMooney_ | * Submissions System. Operational. next stage is to interface with | 21:07 |
| CMooney_ | last year's backend to generate the web pages/time table etc (Action: | 21:07 |
| CMooney_ | John, Zeth) | 21:07 |
| CMooney_ | How's the submissions stuff coming along? | 21:07 |
| zeth | Carry over ;) | 21:07 |
| CMooney_ | K. Nice and easy. | 21:07 |
| zeth | I will try to do some this week | 21:07 |
| zeth | Last week was a bit of a riot | 21:07 |
| CMooney_ | Next item : Keynotes | 21:07 |
| CMooney_ | Confirmed: Prof Sir Tony Hoare, Cory Doctorow, Jim Hugunin. No more | 21:07 |
| CMooney_ | action needed for now. | 21:07 |
| CMooney_ | That's done as well I suppose? | 21:07 |
| zeth | Being a full-time worker is a bit different than being a student :( | 21:08 |
| CMooney_ | zeth, Yup. Make the real-world nice and comfortable, for when I arrive. Should be in about 10 years. | 21:08 |
| zeth | ;) | 21:08 |
| fuzzyman | any response from Steve Holden | 21:08 |
| fuzzyman | ? | 21:08 |
| zeth | [CMooney_: just ready for the next recession] | 21:09 |
| CMooney_ | fuzzyman, I have no idea. John seemed fairly happy with the keynote situation on saturday. | 21:09 |
| fuzzyman | ok | 21:09 |
| fuzzyman | I think we have asked Steve as well | 21:09 |
| qwright | fuzzyman: pinner had said not so far | 21:09 |
| CMooney_ | Not asked, or not heard back? | 21:09 |
| qwright | I think heard back | 21:10 |
| CMooney_ | Ok. | 21:10 |
| CMooney_ | Next Item : Sprints | 21:10 |
| CMooney_ | I have no more news. Do the PyPy guys wnat to a couple of days before | 21:10 |
| CMooney_ | (28th/29th June) and a couple after (4th/5th July)? | 21:10 |
| CMooney_ | Anyone got any news on this? | 21:10 |
| fuzzyman | anyone heard from the PyPy guys? | 21:10 |
| fuzzyman | I know that at least one will probably need financial assistance to attend | 21:11 |
| fuzzyman | shall I ask on the PyPy IRC channel? | 21:11 |
| CMooney_ | fuzzyman, If you could find out for us and get back. May I put you down as "actioning"? :) | 21:11 |
| fuzzyman | Ok :-) | 21:12 |
| fuzzyman | I'll ask them | 21:12 |
| CMooney_ | Thanks. | 21:12 |
| CMooney_ | Next Item : Publicity/Announcement | 21:12 |
| CMooney_ | Martin_Hellwig, "Martin will report" | 21:12 |
| CMooney_ | So whats the word? | 21:12 |
| Martin_Hellwig | Michael has written that announcement | 21:13 |
| CMooney_ | Is he here? | 21:13 |
| fuzzyman | We had an entry on the PyCon blog and on python.org | 21:13 |
| fuzzyman | who? | 21:13 |
| zeth | fuzzyman: Europython had a surplus from last year? Maybe we could get sponsorship also? Sprints are very important since we were crap at it in the UK | 21:13 |
| Martin_Hellwig | all other channels as in the sheet in the subversion directory hsve been contacted | 21:13 |
| fuzzyman | zeth: I will tell him to apply | 21:14 |
| Martin_Hellwig | no new contacts have stepped up so far | 21:14 |
| CMooney_ | Martin_Hellwig, That can be considered done then. Are you willing to keep an eye, and send out any the annoucment should any other channels come forward? | 21:14 |
| Martin_Hellwig | yes | 21:14 |
| CMooney_ | Good idea zeth | 21:14 |
| CMooney_ | I'll put you as "actioning with intent to inform" | 21:15 |
| CMooney_ | :) | 21:15 |
| CMooney_ | Thanks. | 21:15 |
| CMooney_ | Next Item : Sponsorship | 21:15 |
| CMooney_ | Quentin has been working on the brochure. John has contacted | 21:15 |
| CMooney_ | Microsoft, Sun and Google. They all want a brochure. | 21:15 |
| Martin_Hellwig | excellent | 21:15 |
| qwright | It's nearly done. Thanks for the input on Saturday. I just need a couple of hours on it and then pass it by Jacob | 21:16 |
| CMooney_ | Great. | 21:16 |
| CMooney_ | I've found a lot of nice looking photos from PyConUK last year on Flickr, from TedLeung and someone else (can't remember) they are all copyrighted by default. I will email the owners and see if we can get permission to use them in the brochure (and other material). | 21:16 |
| fuzzyman | Speaking to one of the PyPy guys on IRC - they are tied up with another sprint and see the EuroPython one as too far away to think about at the moment | 21:16 |
| fuzzyman | CMooney_: cool | 21:17 |
| CMooney_ | Once that's done, does anyone have a burning desire to edit and tweak them. Otherwise I am happy to do so, and add it all to the repo. | 21:17 |
| CMooney_ | fuzzyman, Thanks for that. That'll have to be noted, down and someone needs to ask them in the future. | 21:17 |
| zeth | Are there new projects that we could hosts sprints for? There must be something else written in Python apart from PyPy | 21:17 |
| qwright | There was mention of a list of sponsors from last year's EP, but I haven't seen it yet...... | 21:18 |
| CMooney_ | qwright, Would you like some more pictures for the brochure or are you ok? | 21:18 |
| qwright | CMooney: I'm OK | 21:18 |
| CMooney_ | Good. | 21:18 |
| Martin_Hellwig | python3 for a sprint? | 21:18 |
| fuzzyman | qwright: what about contacting all the PyCon US sponsors? | 21:18 |
| fuzzyman | Martin_Hellwig: we would need at least one Python core developer for that | 21:18 |
| zeth | Has anyone spoken to Jacob about a Django sprint, especially since he came last year. | 21:18 |
| qwright | fuzzyman: I have the list of organisations, but no contact names | 21:19 |
| fuzzyman | qwright: right | 21:19 |
| CMooney_ | qwright, Are you ok getting contact names | 21:20 |
| CMooney_ | zeth, Could you contact Jacob and ask? | 21:20 |
| qwright | fuzzyman: I could try and contact the Pycon sponsorship person(s) - will have to look them up | 21:20 |
| zeth | CMooney_: Okay | 21:20 |
| zeth | will do | 21:21 |
| CMooney_ | K. | 21:21 |
| zeth | Can you put it in the minutes? | 21:21 |
| fuzzyman | Do we have money to bring anyone over from the US? | 21:21 |
| CMooney_ | I floated an idea to contact all speakers once we have them, and ask if they'd like to host sprints. | 21:21 |
| zeth | fuzzyman: like whom? | 21:21 |
| fuzzyman | Mark Ramm would probably come and talk about / sprint on Turbogears | 21:21 |
| CMooney_ | zeth, That's up to nickbooker. | 21:21 |
| fuzzyman | but would need assistance | 21:21 |
| CMooney_ | zeth action : contacting jacob KM to find out about Django sprint. | 21:22 |
| fuzzyman | his flight paying for and possibly his accomodation | 21:22 |
| fuzzyman | is Nick here? | 21:22 |
| zeth | [cool, is nickbooker around after the meeting?] | 21:22 |
| nickbooker | 'tis in the chat logs. I make the minutes from that. | 21:22 |
| fuzzyman | ok | 21:22 |
| fuzzyman | oh | 21:22 |
| fuzzyman | I got confused | 21:22 |
| fuzzyman | who holds the purse strings for EuroPython? | 21:23 |
| zeth | Are there any other open source projects in the UK people can think of? | 21:23 |
| CMooney_ | qwright, Are you ok with the current sponsorship situation? Shall I put you down as contacting pycon US guys for more contacts. | 21:23 |
| CMooney_ | moodle? but they are PHP guys. | 21:23 |
| qwright | CMooney: yes,yes | 21:23 |
| fuzzyman | Europe - not just the UK | 21:23 |
| zeth | sorry | 21:23 |
| zeth | opps | 21:23 |
| zeth | Europe | 21:23 |
| CMooney_ | qwright, K. | 21:23 |
| zeth | yes, what Europe projects are there? | 21:23 |
| CMooney_ | none that I can think of. | 21:24 |
| fuzzyman | hmmm... | 21:24 |
| qwright | CMooney: Have we done Sponsorship for the time being - I'll have to stop shortly | 21:24 |
| fuzzyman | who sprinted last year? | 21:24 |
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| fuzzyman | we should contact all of them at least | 21:25 |
| CMooney_ | qwright, Ok. I think as long as we have a brochure we have something to send. | 21:25 |
| Richard_Smedley | I know OSAF are USA, but are _any_ of the Chandler programmers European? | 21:25 |
| CMooney_ | fuzzyman, Not many. And they were all Django. | 21:25 |
| fuzzyman | CMooney_: ok | 21:25 |
| qwright | CMooney: OK time is a bit tight at the moment | 21:25 |
| CMooney_ | There was some talk of a health-care system, but that was building from scratch rather than hacking on a project. | 21:25 |
| fuzzyman | Canonical have a presence in the UK | 21:25 |
| CMooney_ | qwright, Fair enough. We may have to hand it over to someone else in the future then. | 21:25 |
| fuzzyman | aren't the Bzr guys intending to sprint? | 21:26 |
| zeth | Bazaar is good | 21:26 |
| zeth | great minds think alike, lets ask them | 21:26 |
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| CMooney_ | are they? fuzzyman tell them to add it to the wiki then! | 21:26 |
| CMooney_ | zeth, or fuzzyman Could you ask them? | 21:26 |
| fuzzyman | I thought there was some on list discussion | 21:26 |
| fuzzyman | I can ask someone | 21:26 |
| CMooney_ | Thanks. If you get a yes, put it on the wiki. | 21:27 |
| zeth | Maybe we could think about some ideas for a new project, something smallish that can be released after 3 days? | 21:27 |
| zeth | but something that will excite people to come and join in | 21:27 |
| fuzzyman | I don't think I can spare the time off to stay for the sprints :-( | 21:27 |
| ThomasWaldmann | btw, someone from mercurial at EP? | 21:27 |
| CMooney_ | Time is dragging on and we have lots of agenda items. Zeth, thats a good idea, can you write them down and add them to the next agenda? | 21:27 |
| zeth | What about openmoko are any of them in the UK, their OS is based on Python | 21:27 |
| CMooney_ | We need to move on I think. | 21:28 |
| zeth | yup | 21:28 |
| zeth | ok | 21:28 |
| CMooney_ | Next item : Accommodation | 21:28 |
| CMooney_ | The costs on the accommodation page will be updated before the next | 21:28 |
| CMooney_ | meeting. We are trying to negotiate rates for a better hotel than the | 21:28 |
| CMooney_ | Etap as the main conference hotel. Holiday Inn have offered £85. | 21:28 |
| CMooney_ | Prices needed from Premier Inn etc | 21:28 |
| * ThomasWaldmann somehow finds it a bit inappriate if there is more git stuff at a python conference than python DVCS stuff | 21:28 | |
| CMooney_ | As far as I know Alex is still getting prices. | 21:28 |
| CMooney_ | I shall ask him about his progress, so we can get costs sorted. | 21:29 |
| zeth | cool | 21:29 |
| zeth | I think our non-brummee friends are getting sick of the etap | 21:29 |
| CMooney_ | Anyone got any comments about this? | 21:29 |
| CMooney_ | K. Next Item : 10. Registration etc | 21:30 |
| CMooney_ | We have applied for a new improved PayPal Website Payments Pro | 21:30 |
| CMooney_ | account. A booking page will be done when we know the hotel costs. The | 21:30 |
| CMooney_ | plan is to have this up during February and offer an extra early bird | 21:30 |
| CMooney_ | discount for a limited period (say one week). Alex (moreati) has | 21:30 |
| CMooney_ | started updating Dinu's badge software so that all the | 21:30 |
| CMooney_ | conference-specific information will be held in the pickle. | 21:30 |
| CMooney_ | Seems that is all in order. Unless anyone has any comments? | 21:30 |
| CMooney_ | There is a subversion repository with Trac for software and conference | 21:30 |
| CMooney_ | materials at http://repo.uk-archive.net/trac It's password-protected | 21:30 |
| CMooney_ | so ask if you need access. | 21:30 |
| CMooney_ | Everyone ok with this? | 21:31 |
| CMooney_ | (Sorry that was quite a bit of spamming) | 21:31 |
| CMooney_ | Next (and last) Item : AOB | 21:32 |
| CMooney_ | I'd just like to mention Yushi's suggestion | 21:32 |
| CMooney_ | http://mail.python.org/mailman/private/europython-improve/2009-January/000529.html | 21:32 |
| CMooney_ | His idea is to use booklets in the swag bags. My opinion is when we stuff bags it probably won't make our lives any easier (or any harder). | 21:33 |
| zeth | I am on slow hotel internet | 21:33 |
| zeth | can you explain it | 21:33 |
| zeth | We discussed this before | 21:34 |
| CMooney_ | Using a folder/booklet instead of binding our conference material. | 21:34 |
| zeth | I have not read the email yet | 21:34 |
| zeth | but we decided before to use a carboard folder | 21:34 |
| zeth | or to look into it | 21:34 |
| zeth | so it can be stuffed when we do the bags | 21:34 |
| * Richard_Smedley has to dash off and get kids from brass band practice. Will try and contribute a bit more via mailing lists. Waves bye. | 21:35 | |
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| zeth | I think John was going to get a quote from the normal printer | 21:35 |
| CMooney_ | Is the idea that it would be pre-done before the conference and put in the piles to be added to bags. | 21:35 |
| zeth | well that is difficult | 21:35 |
| zeth | because the paper won't be ready until the day before | 21:36 |
| CMooney_ | Would it be worth adding this to next meetings agenda, then it can get discussed properly. | 21:36 |
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| zeth | The delegates list and schedule are not ready until just before | 21:36 |
| CMooney_ | Everyone seems a bit quiet, and we are all (I think) tired. | 21:36 |
| zeth | you can't make a conference book without those in | 21:36 |
| zeth | so the idea is a bit of a non-stater | 21:36 |
| CMooney_ | Me too. It will cost money, and not be of great benefit. But I'd like the input of others first. So I will suggest it for the next meetings agenda. | 21:37 |
| Martin_Hellwig | yes next time please, my son decided to cry and have to feed him :-) | 21:38 |
| zeth | We can't carry everything over | 21:38 |
| zeth | just declare it dead | 21:38 |
| zeth | and move on | 21:38 |
| CMooney_ | Ok. As I see it, we coped ok last year without them. So dead. | 21:38 |
| CMooney_ | Meeting finished I think. | 21:38 |
| CMooney_ | Martin_Hellwig, Go feed your son! | 21:38 |
| Martin_Hellwig | already doing :-) | 21:39 |
| zeth | You didn't have 8 of them did you? | 21:39 |
| CMooney_ | Sorry for the length of the meeting. It didn't help my internet dying for 15mins. | 21:39 |
| nickbooker | ok | 21:39 |
| fuzzyman | ok | 21:39 |
| CMooney_ | nickbooker, Are you Ok to do the minutes and post them to the mailing list or something? | 21:39 |
| Martin_Hellwig | no, but it sure feels like it | 21:39 |
| fuzzyman | 8 sons?? | 21:39 |
| CMooney_ | Martin_Hellwig, lol | 21:39 |
| CMooney_ | Thanks all. I'm off to eat too. | 21:39 |
| nickbooker | CMooney_: I'll put it on the same page and send an email with a link when it's ready. | 21:40 |
| fuzzyman | Anyway - who do I talk to about EP possibly flying in Mark Ramm? | 21:40 |
| fuzzyman | should I approach him? | 21:40 |
| CMooney_ | nickbooker, Thanks. | 21:40 |
| fuzzyman | I spoke informally to him late last year | 21:40 |
| nickbooker | next meeting at time suggested in agenda? | 21:40 |
| fuzzyman | ok | 21:40 |
| nickbooker | (Feb 10th, 18:00 GMT)? | 21:40 |
| fuzzyman | oh - sorry | 21:40 |
| CMooney_ | Sorry! Yes! Forgot | 21:40 |
| CMooney_ | Next meeting, everyone! | 21:40 |
| CMooney_ | Is the 10th Feb OK? | 21:40 |
| fuzzyman | bye | 21:40 |
| zeth | fuzzyman: I would speak to michael foord | 21:40 |
| fuzzyman | so if he says yes we can do it? | 21:41 |
| fuzzyman | I can ask him... | 21:41 |
| zeth | I would reckon | 21:41 |
| fuzzyman | I think he is likely to say yes | 21:41 |
| zeth | I lost the plot a bit, is Alex the treasurer again? | 21:41 |
| CMooney_ | zeth, of PyConUK yes, but of EuroPython... I don't know. | 21:41 |
| zeth | We don't seem to have the normal europython sweden people | 21:41 |
| nickbooker | gtg. see you next time | 21:42 |
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| CMooney_ | Unless there are any objections, the next meeting will be on the 10th. | 21:42 |
| fuzzyman | sounds good | 21:42 |
| CMooney_ | k. | 21:42 |
| Martin_Hellwig | +1 | 21:42 |
| fuzzyman | is tartley still here? | 21:42 |
| zeth | fuzzyman: you could explore it in pencil | 21:42 |
| fuzzyman | he's unusually quiet | 21:42 |
| CMooney_ | Done. Can I eat now? :) | 21:42 |
| fuzzyman | zeth: in pencil???? | 21:42 |
| fuzzyman | :-) | 21:42 |
| zeth | fuzzyman: float the idea, then firm up it with whoever is controlling the money | 21:42 |
| fuzzyman | ok | 21:42 |
| zeth | A big fat red crayon | 21:42 |
| Martin_Hellwig | yes fearless leader you can eat now :-) | 21:42 |
| CMooney_ | Night all. | 21:43 |
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| Martin_Hellwig | goodnigh | 21:43 |
| Martin_Hellwig | t | 21:43 |
| zeth | night | 21:43 |
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| jacob22 | Mmm. I see that Quentin hasn't received my stuff about sponsors. I must have the wrong email address for him. Could someone send it to me? | 21:47 |
| ThomasWaldmann | laptop locks? | 21:48 |
| jacob22 | ThomasWaldmann: ? | 21:49 |
| ThomasWaldmann | i read it on the tips page on the wiki | 21:49 |
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| ThomasWaldmann | not sure why I'ld need one | 21:50 |
| zeth | To tie your laptop down if you use it in a pub or cafe or somewhere | 21:56 |
| zeth | this is England after all ;) | 21:56 |
| ThomasWaldmann | well, I usually don't leave it alone. | 21:57 |
| ThomasWaldmann | and in case those kensington locks are meant, they are no real issue if someone really wants it and is prepared | 21:58 |
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| ThomasWaldmann | MoinMoin greets PyPy | 21:59 |
| ThomasWaldmann | http://geekandpoke.typepad.com/.a/6a00d8341d3df553ef010536ef18c3970b-pi < about duck typing | 22:02 |
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| fuzzyman | looks like we might have a Turbogears and Pocoo sprint | 22:41 |
| fuzzyman | two separate sprints | 22:41 |
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