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| avn | great ;) I am got confirmation email | 07:43 |
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| avn | But can't print it anyway | 07:43 |
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| Sharebear | Good morning EuroPython o/ | 08:43 |
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| Paavo | wifi works, cool | 09:12 |
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| Sharebear | 2 | 09:20 |
| Tv | wifi isn't working all that well :( | 09:21 |
| Tv | maybe it's my card | 09:22 |
| eleftherios | I would have thought that there wouldn't be such issues for a programmer gathering | 09:22 |
| * eleftherios packs up to walk to europython | 09:22 | |
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| Tv | routes out from .lt/.ee, at least the ones going through Level3, look busted :( | 09:39 |
| Tv | periodic 70% packet loss | 09:39 |
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| Tv | So who was the person who asked me about twisted.web/web2? | 09:56 |
| Tv | avn? | 09:56 |
| Tv | avn: so, Twisted qabofwtfbbq at 16:00 | 09:56 |
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| eleftherios | Tv: that was your talk just now, wasn't it? | 11:34 |
| Tv | yes | 11:35 |
| Tv | There will be a barcamp thingie on the topic later | 11:36 |
| Tv | probably tomorrow after lunch, before 16:00 | 11:37 |
| Tv | also twisted qa bof wtf bbq today at 16:00 -- anything you want to know about twisted, async, etc, come there | 11:37 |
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| eleftherios | I figured out it was you from the camo trousers, I was the guy who just tapped you at the back on the door; very good talk :-) | 11:43 |
| Tv | ah | 11:45 |
| Tv | yeah i didn't bring that much clothing for the week, i'll be pretty easily recognizable ;) | 11:45 |
| eleftherios | Tv: let me know about the next pizza session, I haven't eaten since yesterday when we spoke | 11:47 |
| Tv | eleftherios: well lunch is in 10 minutes, i think you'll survive | 11:49 |
| * eleftherios puts I Will Survice - Gloria Gaynor on | 11:49 | |
| * TheSheep waits for a huge disco ball to fall... | 11:50 | |
| * eleftherios waits for a large 18" pizza to fall... | 11:51 | |
| eleftherios | preferably not a cancan one | 11:51 |
| Tv | cancan disco sounds like an oxymoron | 11:52 |
| eleftherios | haha | 11:52 |
| czarny | Tv: so the filesystem talk was nice | 11:53 |
| czarny | Tv: very bright enerergy | 11:53 |
| Tv | thank you | 11:53 |
| TheSheep | although overriding / is just weird :) | 11:54 |
| Tv | yes | 11:54 |
| TheSheep | rubyish | 11:54 |
| czarny | Tv: nice vibes, it's nice to see some posix stuff and way of thinking find it's way up to 'modern' langagues like python | 11:54 |
| TheSheep | it's actually pretty sick to have workarounds for window's un-posixness in each and every app | 11:54 |
| Tv | _base = unicode | 11:54 |
| Tv | class path(_base): | 11:54 |
| Tv | path.py is insane | 11:54 |
| Tv | paths are not strings | 11:55 |
| czarny | Tv: you actually got a possibility here to gang on von Rossum and make him build it into stdlib :) | 11:55 |
| Tv | czarny: oh i've been the old unix beard in python circles for nearly a decade.. | 11:55 |
| Tv | czarny: don't think it's any more popular even if *I* do it ;) | 11:55 |
| eleftherios | in general, some Ruby-isms are nice | 11:55 |
| Tv | TheSheep: the windows workarounds is one thing t.p.filepath does | 11:56 |
| czarny | yea, like give every python download a ruby | 11:56 |
| czarny | via mail | 11:56 |
| eleftherios | hah | 11:56 |
| Tv | czarny: btw you should see the cool tricks you can do when you're using git object storage as your filesystem.. | 11:56 |
| Tv | generic filesystem transactions are neat | 11:56 |
| czarny | Tv: yea -- the nice thing is that you learn the concept once, the filesystem concept, and you reduce it each and every time | 11:57 |
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| czarny | that's a great idea | 11:57 |
| TheSheep | that's threatening the RDBs :) | 11:57 |
| Tv | TheSheep: oh you don't know the full pic ;) | 11:57 |
| Tv | i have a pile of interesting hacks in the works | 11:57 |
| czarny | *reuse not reduce | 11:58 |
| czarny | how to recognize a unix programmer from a large distance | 11:58 |
| czarny | a normal programmer writes codes | 11:58 |
| czarny | and uses exrpessions like "I wrote some .... code" | 11:58 |
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| czarny | a unix programmer hacks | 11:58 |
| czarny | all the time | 11:58 |
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| theuni | grrr | 11:58 |
| theuni | what was the deal on the office for complicating otherwise simple affairs? | 11:59 |
| Tv | czarny: we also kludge | 11:59 |
| czarny | Tv: we do :) | 11:59 |
| czarny | Tv: was that talk the first itme advocating the 'dear lazy web --- make me a generic filesytem API', or have you tried it earlier? | 12:00 |
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| Tv | czarny: not with that exact topic ;) | 12:00 |
| Tv | i'm good at starting projects, but pretty bad at working with PEPs etc | 12:01 |
| czarny | Tv: so ganging on Guido seems a good idea | 12:01 |
| Tv | mostly because I'm too ADHD for that; by that time, I'm off doing something else already | 12:01 |
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| Tv | isn't it lunch time? | 12:03 |
| Tv | is it just this talk running long? | 12:04 |
| czarny | Tv: it depends what your stommick tell you | 12:04 |
| czarny | Tv: but it seems so | 12:04 |
| Tv | tummay saiz: i can haz om nom nom | 12:04 |
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| theuni | Tv: which talk are you in? | 12:04 |
| Tv | py.test | 12:04 |
| theuni | ah | 12:04 |
| theuni | me too | 12:05 |
| theuni | so no additional information from me ;) | 12:05 |
| czarny | Tv: you're hidden quite well | 12:05 |
| Tv | czarny: i walked in during the talk | 12:05 |
| czarny | Tv: me2 | 12:05 |
| Tv | because it overlapped with my own | 12:05 |
| Tv | ok qa -> the end is near | 12:05 |
| * Tv suspends | 12:05 | |
| czarny | Tv: excuses excuses ;p | 12:05 |
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| Tv | gah s5 and animations are doing silly things.. or maybe it's firefox | 13:00 |
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| Obel | is enywhere texts from talks to download? | 14:41 |
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| Tv | hehe even pypy has a virtual filesystem in it | 15:08 |
| LarstiQ | vindication! :) | 15:09 |
| LarstiQ | Tv: do you have things in mind for the twisted bof? | 15:10 |
| Tv | LarstiQ: not *really* | 15:10 |
| Tv | LarstiQ: i'm hoping people will just have things to ask about | 15:10 |
| Tv | usually once the discussion starts, it'll all work out | 15:10 |
| LarstiQ | true | 15:10 |
| eleftherios | LarstiQ: I met up with Tv, where have you been hidding? | 15:14 |
| eleftherios | :-) | 15:14 |
| LarstiQ | eleftherios: in the attic. | 15:14 |
| LarstiQ | eleftherios: I'm in Alfa atm. | 15:15 |
| eleftherios | LarstiQ: what do you wear? I am in Zeta if I am not mistaken | 15:16 |
| LarstiQ | eleftherios: my camo is stowed away for the moment, got a dark blue breakpoint tshirt on | 15:16 |
| eleftherios | LarstiQ: ok, will look out for that. I am wearking a lilac shirt, brown v-next | 15:19 |
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| xorAxAx | nos tream :-( | 15:25 |
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| cyberix | 19:00 Finish for Day | 17:11 |
| cyberix | Is this something or nothing? | 17:11 |
| LarstiQ | cyberix: no clue ;) | 17:11 |
| cyberix | Imean, how long does it take. 0? | 17:11 |
| cyberix | :-D | 17:11 |
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| ghum | Hello. | 17:59 |
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| MrTopf | Hello | 18:05 |
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| jgustak | Just in case if you wold like to get some move tommorow during the conference. | 19:05 |
| jgustak | we are playing frisbee tommorow after lunch at the riverside in front of conference hotel | 19:06 |
| jgustak | please join us! | 19:06 |
| jgustak | You can easily find me - I am around, carying orange frisbee - aproach and bug me if you want! | 19:08 |
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| emilis_info | :) | 21:02 |
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| Honza | jezdez: you comming up for a drink? | 21:16 |
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| avn | Tv-phone: sorry, I wait you -- but was timed out. | 22:31 |
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| avn | Tv: hi | 23:19 |
| avn | I am timed out when wait you in lobbi | 23:19 |
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| Tv | avn: it's ok | 23:21 |
| Tv | avn: there weren't many people left in there but i found things to talk to and things to eat, and spent a decent few hours sitting in the lobby chatting | 23:21 |
| Tv | avn: or maybe we just crossed paths without seeing eachother | 23:22 |
| avn | Tv: my mistake --- I was need to take you phonenum or give my phone | 23:23 |
| Tv | nah, no damage done | 23:23 |
| Tv | the chaos of the conference tends to be like that | 23:23 |
| avn | ;) | 23:24 |
| avn | Yep some chaos was presented ;) | 23:24 |
| avn | for example I await from barcamp sessions more expirience sharing than raw talks. | 23:24 |
| avn | May be we can take some beer in wed, or tomorrow after "dinner". | 23:26 |
| * avn don't await beer at dinner ;) | 23:26 | |
| avn | Tv: you tomorrow talk about git is for advanced users of git, or for newbies? (I am expirienced in bzr/mercurial -- but can't understand git) | 23:27 |
| Tv | avn: wednesday | 23:28 |
| Tv | avn: and it's more about decentralized scm, using git as merely an example | 23:28 |
| Tv | i want to talk about workflows etc | 23:28 |
| avn | BTW twisted team thinks about dewcentralised scm? (hg/bzr/git) Or not? | 23:29 |
| Tv | no clue really | 23:30 |
| Tv | you might have seen the words "twisted.git" scroll by during the QA | 23:30 |
| avn | I am look... | 23:32 |
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| avn | Tv: I have own solution for sqlalchemy/twisted adapter, and some useful decorators. If you will have few time -- lets discuss my ideas? (I plan to release this in "twisted community" on launchpad) | 23:35 |
| Tv | avn: i'm not really actively using sqlalch anywhere | 23:39 |
| Tv | the one project i have is choking mysql with tens of millions of rows, i'm going to port it away from sql and live happier | 23:40 |
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| Tv | most of my sqlalch usage was at revver, and i haven't done significant work for them since september | 23:42 |
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| avn | Tv: my code is more twisted/thread related | 23:44 |
| Tv | avn: i'll happily chat but i don't really "represent the Twisted project" in any way, and have actually been quite inactive on that front | 23:45 |
| MrTopf | my code always looks quite twisted | 23:46 |
| avn | I really want to promore my @thread decorator to upstream (is deferToThread wrapped as decorator) -- it very useful and increase code readability | 23:46 |
| avn | s/promore/promote/ | 23:46 |
| avn | Tv: i am simple want some code review (really design and ideas, not implementation) | 23:47 |
| avn | Also I have veru useful wrapper around spawnProcess | 23:47 |
| avn | (useful only for smal amount of child output -- but semantic is wery relaxed and easy to remember) | 23:48 |
| * avn feels need to sleep. | 23:50 | |
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