IRC log of #meego for Friday, 2011-07-29

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* rzr http://rzr.online.fr/q/emulate#video of my #AmigA #NetBook / #TableT ( p #UaE + #LinuX !MeeGo running #LenovO #IdeaPad ) back to the 90ies !00:11
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dm8tbrirc and hash tags, dont' mix00:14
rzrirc is extensible by design :)00:17
rzrsoon we'll chat using flv files00:17
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ali1234i've heard of UAE and EUAE but what is PUAE?00:48
berndhsParallel United Arab Emirates ?00:49
thiago:-)00:49
gabrbeddpost-ultimate amiga emulator?00:52
gabrbeddit's so ultimate... it's post-ultimate!00:52
ali1234... but you've probably never heard of it00:53
ali1234wait00:53
rzrp like pandora :)00:53
rzrali1234: puae is to euae what euae is to uae00:53
ali1234but i thought euae was uae with backports from winuae00:54
ali1234so is euae dead now?00:54
rzras much as uae is00:54
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gabrbeddIndeed, I never heard of it before today.00:55
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Myrttiless mushrooms for you peeps00:56
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rzris there a community repo to put that software ?01:03
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pebcakrzr http://wiki.meego.com/Community_Repo01:12
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rzrpebcak: i had that one in my bookmarks i'll rtfm that01:17
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rzrX-Fade: i added you too https://build.pub.meego.com/project/users?project=home%3Arzr%3Aharmattan02:15
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ecurtishi, I was wondering if it is possible to download a nightly for meego 1.3 (netbook) for developing a theme, I only see version 1.2 on the meego.com site. cheers.02:27
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thiagoyes, there are nightly and daily images02:29
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thiagohttp://repo.meego.com02:29
ecurtisthank you02:29
CosmoHillI'd be called 1.2.80 or 1.2.90 I believe02:32
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ecurtishi, I am working to install 1.2.80 on virtualbox (I was able to get 1.2 to work) however I am unable to get past the section where you remove quiet and add the s flag on these instructions...any suggestions?03:28
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ecurtishttp://wiki.meego.com/MeeGo_1.0_Netbook_VirtualBox03:28
ecurtissorry forgot the link03:28
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Termanamorning04:34
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TSCHAKeeeshould mcompositor be used in new MeeGo UX projects?04:57
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MitnickAttributeError: 'module' object has no attribute 'Arch_armv7hl'06:12
Mitnickany help?06:12
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StskeepsMitnick: --run-mode=107:11
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Stskeepssofar: we're adding nfs? i thought sshfs was the future :)07:13
TSCHAKeeeStskeeps: is mcompositor still being used for UXes going forward?07:16
MitnickStekeeps: thx07:17
MitnickStekeeps: i will try07:17
StskeepsTSCHAKeee: don't know about tablet ux, but one of the plans was to move tablet ux to wayland07:17
TSCHAKeee*nod* ok07:17
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TSCHAKeeeStskeeps: i am investigating options for LinuxMCE, we need a replacement window manager and compositor until Wayland is usable.07:18
TSCHAKeeei really wanna use wayland but there isn't enough there yet that we can move our stack over yet, some stuff still being written07:18
TSCHAKeeethat..and..well..the vast majority of our installed base use NVIDIA cards07:19
Stskeepsmatchbox? ;p07:19
TSCHAKeeebe serious07:19
TSCHAKeee;)07:19
Stskeepssorry, 6:20am, not possible07:20
Stskeeps:P07:20
MitnickStekeeps: thx,fixed07:21
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StskeepsUlf^: 'have choice for pkgconfig(gdk-pixbuf-2.0) >= 2.14: gtk2-devel gdk-pixbuf-devel'08:08
Stskeepsseeing that in tumbler08:08
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Bostikand good morning08:48
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dm8tbr<troll> MeeGo as a business thing should totally switch to the OpenSurface model. Companies don't care about the underlying stuff anyway!!!!1111!!!one!</troll>10:09
Stskeepsoh dear10:09
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Myrttidm8tbr: what triggered that?10:11
Stskeepsoscon10:13
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dm8tbrMyrtti: /. topic10:14
Myrttiright10:14
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* Stskeeps investigates the costs of an OBS in ze cloud10:18
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dm8tbrStskeeps: talk to Viltapi, he wrote his thesis about it :)10:20
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Stskeepsoh cool10:25
Stskeepsin finnish?10:25
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spenapI already asked in #harmattan, but maybe it's better to ask here: I've got a package in OBS which appears listed in building state in the overview page, but if you enter in the log page, it's on "updating". After leaving it overnight in that state, it just timed out..10:26
Stskeepsosc abortbuild maybe10:28
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dm8tbrStskeeps: thesis is in english10:36
Stskeepsok10:36
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Myrtti:-P achipa10:43
achipa:P10:43
MyrttiHervanta ♥10:44
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achipaI was just thinking 'hey that girl looks like myrtti...' :)10:45
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aleksander_monce created a raw image with mic-image-creator, can I resize it so that I get more space when I run it under kvm?12:00
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oscoderhello everyone@!12:15
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oscoderabout meego, have some new information some body knows?!share to everybody12:15
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timophnew info on what topic? how the wayland stuff is progressing? latest test results from tablet builds? or something else?12:21
timophwiki.meego.com and lists.meego.com are good places to follow the project12:23
dm8tbrall the secret open source!!!!!1one!12:23
timoph:)12:23
* timoph forgot to mention qa-reports.meego.com12:26
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slaineThat Cordia project is very interesting12:58
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slaineIs that a direct port of Hildon Desktop to MeeGo, or is it a reimplementation in QtQuick ?12:59
Stskeepsport12:59
slaineIs Hildon Desktop on free mantle GTK+/Hildon based or Qt based ?13:00
Stskeepsgtk+13:01
Stskeepswell, clutter to be specific..13:01
slaineI thought it was clutter based but then was shot down by someone when I said that13:01
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Mitnickhttp://wiki.meego.com/ARM/OMAP4_Panda#Issues.2FRemarks13:24
Mitnickany help?13:24
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MitnickThe current build doesn't start X correctly automatically.13:25
MitnickX can be run by logging in on tty or via serial port (The password is set in the Panda.ks.in file, initially "meego").13:25
MitnickStart runlevel 3 "init 3" after that "startx &".13:25
Mitnickwhat's that mean? i did this , but no graphic output13:26
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CosmoHillMitnick: try #meego-arm13:30
MitnickCosmoHill: thx13:30
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arfollthe api in c.obs is not public correct?13:39
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lcukarfoll, what do you mean?13:39
Stskeepsas in linking to the packages on there from another obs?13:40
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arfollStskeeps, exactly13:41
Stskeepsi guess you can try with /public ?13:41
arfollStskeeps, still asks for a paswd13:41
Stskeepsodd13:41
arfollbasically i wanted to know if that was by design and if so request a second OBS account because i'd rather not have my passwd visible to everyone on this OBS....13:42
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X-Fadearfoll: I think that is more a bug than anything else.13:44
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lcukmorning X-Fade, how goes it?13:44
X-Fadelcuk: fighting annoying configs, breaking things. The usual :)13:45
X-Fadelcuk: And decided that the spotify theme for today was 80s hits.13:46
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lcukX-Fade, yes the usual and nice theme13:46
arfollX-Fade, ok so i can assume it'll be fixed soon? or can i get a second account?13:47
lcukhopefully the cheesy tunes will help fixup some of the bugs13:47
X-Fadearfoll: That should just work yes, but I need to figure out why it doesn't.13:47
X-Fadelcuk: Oh yes, pleny of cheesy songs for sure. If it helps ... well.13:47
arfollX-Fade, ok cool13:48
lcukX-Fade, like your helicopter, adjust the trim, check the alignments are keep it steady :D13:49
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lcukis there a reliable way to detect the host OS from within a makefile?14:11
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CosmoHilllcuk: duno but sounds like fun14:13
pebcakcheck via uname?14:13
CosmoHilluname -s ?14:14
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CosmoHillor do you mean ubuntu, fedora, slax etc?14:14
lcukmaemo/meego/ubuntu etc14:15
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CosmoHilllcuk: have you heard of phpsysinfo? that works out what the host distro is14:15
CosmoHillit looks at various /etc/*release files14:16
CosmoHilltrigger:~ nate$ ssh blue cat /etc/bsl-release14:16
CosmoHill2008.08 Felix Development14:16
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CosmoHilllcuk: it's possible that they have #define _UBUNTU somewhere14:17
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lcukCosmoHill, apologies, ubuntu is less the problem14:18
* CosmoHill doesn't use any of them :)14:19
lcukmaemo/meego.netbook/meego.n900-ce/meego-n950-ce/harmattan are most common14:19
CosmoHilldoes it have to be the make file could? it not be the spec file?14:19
lcukharmattan uses debian14:20
CosmoHilldoes the make file even have to detect it or could it provide multiple targets? eg "make meego"14:20
lcukand in part the makefile has to know to use or not osso14:20
lcukthanks for hints though, will see later on14:22
* CosmoHill has become confused and thinks maybe a configuration file would help14:26
lcukCosmoHill, build time files, parts of the compilation need to know if libosso is available, and as a workaround in the app, screen pixel resolution needs tweaking in meego and harmattan14:28
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* lcuk takes a step back and looks sideways at how to cure bug 1308414:30
MeeGoBotBug https://bugs.meego.com/show_bug.cgi?id=13084 maj, Medium, ---, liquid, ASSI, [n900] Horizontal tearing with xvimagesink14:30
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lcuktimoph, oooh you are looking at plasma ux this weekend! awesome15:32
timophyeah15:33
lcukplenty of screenshots!15:33
lcuktimoph, most of the things you have ported from qt into meego15:33
lcukare you having to write the .spec file yourself15:33
lcukor does qt creator now do it for you?15:33
timophif it runs smoothly enough (YMMV) i was planning on doing a short video15:33
lcukcool15:34
timophlcuk: yeah and for some things I did very small changes to the code15:34
timophorientation, full screen, etc.15:34
lcuktimoph, yeah to which part, making .spec yourself or qt creator doing it for you?15:35
leinireven more reason to chat with the guys ;)15:35
leinir*ducks* ;)15:35
* timoph gets the hint and joins #active15:35
leiniranyway, lunch! :D15:35
leinir*giggles* :)15:35
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* CosmoHill has solved Project Eular problem 7 :D15:53
berndhswe always knew you were smarter than Euler15:54
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CosmoHill^.^15:55
lcuklol15:55
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lcukCosmoHill, the last question on Project Fermet is a bit tough15:57
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mtdlbt: I got pulled away before I said thank you for setting up my Community OBS account the other day.16:02
mtdlbt: Thank You.16:02
lbtmtd: np :)16:02
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CosmoHilllcuk: I'm stuck on question 1016:07
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dattebayohey guys im a total newb with meego, fortunately i install the codec i want but i really need PPTP VPN but it seems there is no option available for that what should i do?16:14
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lcukdattebayo, hm, which UX did you install?16:19
lcukie which computer16:19
dattebayou mean version>?16:20
dattebayoi dont follow16:20
thiagonetbook?16:21
dattebayoyea16:21
stormeralbanc, nice job !16:21
albancstormer, thanks! Do you know how to upstream that? Should I email marcel.holtmann@intel.com?16:22
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maligorupstream what?16:24
maligorif it's a change against some meego component, make a merge request?16:24
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albancthe upstream repository is git://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/network/connman/pacrunner.git16:26
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dattebayoguys is .ymp installable on meego?16:31
thiagowhat is .ymp?16:31
thiagothat probably answers "no"16:31
dattebayoymp in opensuse they are the file installation with Yast manager16:32
CosmoHillYast package manager?16:32
CosmoHillMeeGo uses Zypper16:32
dattebayoi did a search aabout pptp vpn connection and lead me her http://apps-beta.meego.com/applications/meego/1.1/netbook/internet/Pptp/16:32
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dattebayoand the file is .ymp thats y im asking16:32
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dattebayoi need help :((16:45
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maligora xml repospec?16:48
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BeyondSorahi17:22
BeyondSoraso for the meego netbook update 1.2.0.117:22
BeyondSorait seems that the adobe update is broken17:22
BeyondSoraeverytime i try to update to the newest update in the adobe repo, it tells me public key not found17:23
BeyondSoraand thus cannot update17:23
BeyondSoraI use zypper dup to do taht17:23
BeyondSoraafter disabling adobe repo however, im able to update to 1.2.0.117:23
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dattebayohow can i have PPTP VPN on my meego?17:57
dattebayoi use netbook 1.217:57
thiagoI don't know if you can17:58
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dattebayoi found a page that except .rpm gives me ymp  its in meego sites18:01
griCan I mix id based translations and source text based translations? (ts file allows both, but lrelease has the -idbased option)18:03
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griOk, I can mix them ... :)18:08
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berndhsmeego.com is still not doing TLS handshake correctly ?18:29
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berndhsor was that a webkit issue, i don't remember18:30
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lcukberndhs, n950 still not opening meego.com is facepalmish19:13
dm8tbrlcuk: that's just because you know it's not real meego, I'm sure it prefers maemo.org </friday-troll>19:14
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ShadowJKit's homeless :)19:21
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KaIRCShadowJK: Harmattan? Yes, I guess it's a poor homeless kid19:26
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berndhsi think they will sell all the N9s they can make19:27
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ShadowJKcan, or will make? It's like they're actively trying to sabotage it at the same time19:28
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berndhscan make19:28
berndhsits probably still a dead end if they stick to the current plans, but such is life19:29
berndhsbut thats just speculation19:29
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ShadowJKInternet seems full of people who want to buy it, but Nokia will not and has no plans to sell them one. dunno how that will work out :)19:30
lcukberndhs, i think with searay being essentially the same hardware (at least from external) that the expectation to produce a whole series is there19:30
berndhsquite likely they dont want to dry up their prospecive WP market with this device19:31
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ShadowJKSo in fighting whether Nokia would make qualcom phones, or MS would make their os work on more than one cpu, nokia won?19:31
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berndhsremains to be seen, perhaps HTC won :)19:33
berndhsor the rest of them19:33
ShadowJKNo I mean between MS and Nokia19:33
dyrverehm, windows on a phone, it's already slow enough on the desktop... *shudders*19:34
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lcukdyrvere, its ok, the searay comes with a dedicated Ctrl+Alt+Del button19:34
dyrverecool! that's useful :)19:35
lcukthe blogosphere guessing that it is a camera button were mistaken ;)19:35
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lcukgod damn rpm spec files19:36
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timophlcuk: you can do yaml files instead :)19:38
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berndhsi'm tired of messing with my fedora machines and mozilla crap19:38
dyrvereWhy did you select rpm's for meego btw?19:38
dyrvereanyone?19:38
berndhsi should move forward and make a meego desktop19:38
timophdefine "you"19:38
lcuktimoph, will those be simpler?19:38
timophlcuk: afaik yes19:39
dyrverethe one who made the choice. Why rpm?19:39
lcukto create test case for the bug I have to package it19:39
berndhsrpm is slightly cleaner than deb, thats basically why19:39
berndhsits still dirty :)19:39
dyrvereso why not tar.xz? not secure enough, even more dirt? :p19:39
lcukdyrvere, rpm is the moblin19:39
timophit is the packaging format of choice according to LSB19:40
timophbut I'd guess the main reason was moblin19:40
berndhsmoblin and opensuse/novell probably19:40
dyrverehehe, good to know who to slap.19:41
Stskeepsdyrvere: long story short, there was a better, open source toolkit, suited for enterprise and production use, revolving around rpm, such as OBS, MIC2, etc..19:41
lcukcan I put a bounty (of a pint at next conf visited) upon .spec file for libliqbase and liqbook19:41
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timophbut anyway. I used to resist rpm but after doing some packaging with it I actually think it's easier than deb19:41
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berndhsat least the problems in rpm packing are in one spec file, not in a handful of cooperating files19:43
timophyep19:43
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timophbut in reality both formats have their ups and downs19:43
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lcuktimoph, is this valid folder layout for spec stuff it is the current contents of the pristine .tar.gz (simplified):19:46
lcuklibliqbase/19:46
lcuklibliqbase/debian19:46
lcuklibliqbase/include19:46
lcuklibliqbase/media19:46
lcuklibliqbase/src19:46
lcuklibliqbase/Makefile19:46
lcuklibliqbase/libliqbase.spec19:46
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CosmoHillpastebin!19:46
timophanyway..19:46
timophlcuk: http://wiki.meego.com/Spectacle19:47
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lcukooh, reading now (and apologies for flood)19:47
timoph:)19:47
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timophlcuk: here's a live example - https://build.pub.meego.com/package/view_file?file=prelink.yaml&package=prelink&project=home%3Astskeeps&srcmd5=b4cc1da948f3da074be69c6b608d4fad19:49
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* timoph knows Stskeeps is using yaml files so knew where to look :)19:50
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siddvicioushola :)19:50
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jedixhow do I set a static ip from the command line?20:47
jedixdo I just create /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/route-eth0 ?20:47
jedixthat didn't work either20:51
jedixdamnit20:51
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jedixso there's no way to configure an interface to always us a static ip?20:59
CosmoHilljedix: one second20:59
CosmoHill/etc/sysconfig/network-devices/ifconfig.eth021:00
CosmoHilltry in there21:00
jedixokay, thanks21:00
CosmoHillshould end with .ipv421:01
jedixifconfig.eth0 or the address?21:02
CosmoHillifconfig.eth0 is a folder for that device21:02
jedixokay.. is there a doc on this?21:02
CosmoHillhttp://cross-lfs.org/view/svn/x86/network/network-static.html21:03
CosmoHilltry that21:03
jedixthnaks21:04
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jedixCosmoHill: that didn't work either :/21:06
CosmoHilloh21:07
CosmoHillworth a go21:07
jedixyeah :/21:07
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berndhsi think connman steps on that one21:07
jedixyeah, I have no idea how to set connman to a static ip21:08
jedixespecially via command line21:08
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berndhsthe applet lets you do it in netbook, havent found anything in tablet21:08
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jedixwhat files does it change under the hood?21:09
berndhsno idea21:09
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jedixapparently it's somethign to do with  /var/lib/connman21:24
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gabrbeddAnybody know when the 1.2 SDK Update (with 11.04 support) is scheduled to drop?21:27
gabrbedd...Ubuntu 11.04, that is.21:27
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berndhsjedix: maybe something like http://pastebin.com/K5ZpgYKc in default.profile ?21:33
berndhsjedix: adjusting the IPs and such of course21:34
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jedixberndhs: I was hoping to keep it generic to device name so the image could work on more than just one device21:36
jedixlooks like connman can't do that.21:36
berndhsnot that I know of21:36
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berndhsthere is a Qt API package for connman, eventually someone will write a CLI version21:37
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jedixthanks21:38
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gabrbeddjedix: the connman CLI tools are in a package called connman-test21:45
gabrbeddjedix: I also think I saw some conversations a few months ago that static IP addresses is a known-to-not-be-quite-right limitation of connman.21:46
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timophlbt: I wonder why c.obs live build log shows the log for some other build than mine21:46
lbtfollowing an old link?21:47
timophhttps://build.pub.meego.com/package/live_build_log?arch=armv7el&package=meego-terminal&project=home%3Atimoph%3Aharmattan&repository=MeeGo_1.2_Harmattan21:47
jedixSearch results for "connman-test "  (0)21:47
timophshows me kde getting build21:47
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lbtok ... that's odd21:48
timophyep21:48
jedixyeah, setting in via the default thing fails21:49
jedixscrew it, I'll just put it in rc.local21:49
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jedixconnman is broken and has no easy way to set what I want21:50
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gabrbeddjedix: connman-test is in the repos.  Don't know why you can't find it.21:53
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gabrbeddjedix: Once installed there are several scripts in a folder called something like /usr/share/connman/21:53
jedixperhaps because it's built from the connman srpm?21:53
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gabrbeddjedix: huh?21:54
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jedixgabrbedd: I searched in obs, but the package is created by the srpm in connman21:58
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gabrbeddjedix: okay... I guess I don't understand what you're trying to do.21:59
* gabrbedd only caught the tail end of the convo.21:59
jedixI was trying to set a static ip22:00
jedixI just tried the script22:00
jedixSetting IPv4 address 192.168.1.101 for /profile/default/ethernet_020000000000_cable22:00
jedixSegmentation fault22:00
jedix:/22:00
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gabrbeddRight... that 's what I thought.  I don't understand what that has to do with the SRPM or OBS.  :-)22:01
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jedixah, the connman-test is generated from srpm of connman, but I searched for it on OBS, which would not return anything22:04
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RobsterHi, I am trying to find out if evolution data server address book for Meego IVI supports all the possible fields in PBAP vcard transfers. Anyone know ?22:21
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dscorzoniHi everyone...22:44
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dscorzoniIs there a MeeGo version to use on common notebooks?22:44
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dm8tbryou could run netbook ux22:45
dscorzoniI really like the interface and the dynamics of this system, but I tried to use the netbook version in a HP Notebook and I meet a lot of bugs...22:45
dm8tbrpeople have xfce and other WMs22:45
CosmoHilldscorzoni: you can run Meego Netboot on any netboot with intel processor and graphics22:45
cos^did anyone get the mail from Quin Gil todat about N950 device program?22:45
CosmoHillsupported_processors?22:46
dm8tbrit's not really intended as a linux distro, but you can do so22:46
CosmoHillhttp://wiki.meego.com/Supported_Processors22:46
dscorzoniYes, I have a Core i3 processor...22:46
dm8tbrcos^: prolly everyone in the programme did22:46
dscorzonibut I found some bugs...22:46
* CosmoHill looks at cos&22:46
dscorzonithe system crashers, for example, when I access the ntfs partition...22:46
berndhscos^: it's a secret, dont tell the rest of us22:46
dscorzoniThe system stop completely...22:46
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dscorzoni(sorry about my poor english...)22:47
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dm8tbrQgil sent a mail reminding that people who received the n950 should update the wiki page22:47
cos^i'm in the lazy wiki editors list, but i have no clue what to do22:47
dm8tbrcos^: did you receive your device?22:47
cos^dm8tbr: no22:48
qgilcos^: hi, have your received your device?22:48
cos^afaik i ordered it from developer.nokia.com22:48
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cos^is it possible to confirm it somehow? the site is very confusing22:48
dscorzoniCosmoHill, sometimes, the system becomes very very very slow...22:48
dscorzoniSo, I installed the Xubuntu Linux again...22:49
qgilcos^: you better know what you have done if you want to get it  :)  please move your record accordingly under http://wiki.meego.com/Community_Office/Community_device_program/Nokia#Still_pending22:49
dscorzoniBut I really like the MeeGo interface...22:49
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dscorzoniAnd the integration with social networks and instant messaging...22:49
dm8tbrcos^: did you go through here? https://forumnokia.secure.force.com/apex/ProductDetailByName?productName=Nokia+N95022:49
qgilcos^: what's your name in that wiki page?22:50
qgilcos^: sorry for the many questions, I just want to make you you'll get a device22:50
Venemohello qgil, have you managed to solve the QtCreator->OBS stuff?22:50
cos^dm8tbr: yep22:50
cos^qgil: Ville Ranki22:50
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qgilVenemo: nope, I'm putting my time writing the code mikhas needs to do a usable app to be uploaded to OBS  :)22:51
cos^qgil: no hurry, i'm going for vacation trips so i wouldn't have time to develop anything next month22:51
Venemookay qgil :)22:51
qgilcos^: well, if you haven't ordered the N950 then you must be in a hurry, otherwise you risk not getting the device at all22:51
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qgilcos^: according to the Nokia Developer info I have, you should be able to order the device22:52
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qgilcos^ conclusion: make sure you have done your homework before holidays ref Nokia Developer & wiki page, otherwise it may well happen that you don't have device anymore when you're back - seriously22:55
cos^i might have missed some e-mail or something if i hadn't ordered it. now it is ordered and i'll move myself in wiki to pending22:55
qgilcos^: good  :)22:55
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cos^qgil: done.22:58
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qgilcos^: thx22:58
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cos^qgil: i might have been confused by the empty "A Nokia N950 is waiting for you" message.. did it mean i'd need to order now?23:03
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qgilyes23:03
qgilcos^: others might know bettert23:04
qgilthe process since I haven't ordered any  :)23:04
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wazdhello all23:17
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CosmoHillchaviness++23:26
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GeneralAntillesThat new ThinkPad tablet looks like a perfect MeeGo target.23:33
GeneralAntillesThough Tegra 2 kinda sucks.23:33
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antman8969shouldn't we expect a lot more tegra 2 in future meego tabs?23:38
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Alison_ChaikenGeneralAntilles, Trimslice Tegra2 now has hardfp drivers according to Brendan LeFoll.  !!23:45
vgrade1http://wiki.meego.com/MeeGo_Smart_TV_for_Trimslice23:46
vgrade1Alison_Chaiken, \o23:46
Alison_ChaikenThx vgrade1, was just struggling for URL.23:46
Alison_ChaikenJust bought the stupid Snowball and already have the stupid Panda w/o hardfp.   Ugh, devices piling up!23:47
Alison_ChaikenDon't give me an N950, I'll hit you.23:47
vgrade1Alison_Chaiken, I saw the snowball realease, so much for the pre release promises23:48
Alison_Chaikenvgrade1, yep.23:48
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vgrade1Alison_Chaiken, don't loose heart, I waited 6 months for tegra drivers23:49
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vgrade1wonders why he's vgrade123:50
vgrade1ah two instances, only one visible23:51
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Alison_Chaikenvgrade1, one instance can go to the pub while the other wrestles the TV UX onto the trimslice.23:57
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