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| UlfHofemeier | Hi | 01:30 |
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| CosmoHill | hello | 01:32 |
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| tripzero | what's the right arch to pass mic-image-creator so it's happy for armv5? | 01:46 |
| yigal | Stskeeps and vgrade have obviously done an outstanding job getting the Joggler with GMA 500/Poulsbo to work with the EMGD driver. Is there any chance to get another device with GMA 500 working, in my case an Eee T91MT? I'm fine selling out and signing what ever I need to away to Intel, etc.. | 01:48 |
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| tripzero | yigal, don't sell out. | 01:49 |
| tripzero | i'll offer you half the price for your soul | 01:49 |
| yigal | tripzero: right it's a matter of using Windows 7 or selling out in a smaller way to Intel + | 01:49 |
| yigal | I would prefer to sell half my soul then get half price on my sould | 01:50 |
| tripzero | :P | 01:50 |
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| csd_ | tripzero: --arch=armv5tel | 01:54 |
| Macer | well. let me go ahead and follow these instructions and work on this meego image :) | 01:55 |
| tripzero | csd_, Error: Given arch 'armv5tel' is not found from the repositories. | 01:55 |
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| Macer | i'm sorry. i didn't stick around after i asked. Stskeeps said i need to use flasher | 01:55 |
| Macer | so does that mean i can only flash back and forth between maemo and meego? | 01:55 |
| tripzero | yep | 01:55 |
| Macer | it doesn't install a bootloader? | 01:55 |
| Macer | ah. damn. :) well. that kind of hinders it a bit. | 01:56 |
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| tripzero | meego does not come with a bootloader no | 01:56 |
| Macer | is there some other way to dual boot? like some n900 bootloader that is out there like the one for the n810? | 01:56 |
| Macer | the fanoush one | 01:57 |
| yigal | so multiboot doesn't work? | 01:57 |
| yigal | sorry NITDroid is just so active, I just thought . . . | 01:57 |
| tripzero | dual boot claims to work with nitdroid and maemo5 | 01:58 |
| tripzero | on the n900... | 01:58 |
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| yigal | but not meego/maemo? | 01:59 |
| tripzero | well, if android dual boot works, one can assume it can be done with meego as well | 02:00 |
| tripzero | but i have no idea how... | 02:00 |
| tripzero | or why... :P | 02:00 |
| yigal | Last post is SimonGie having problems booting Fedora, http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=768337&postcount=431 | 02:00 |
| Macer | Unexpected arguments to repo command: ['\xe2\x80\x94gpgkey=file:///etc/pki/rpm-gpg/RPM-GPG-KEY-meego'] | 02:01 |
| Macer | heh | 02:01 |
| Macer | wtf? :) | 02:01 |
| yigal | ooh | 02:01 |
| Macer | let me try the official nokia ks | 02:01 |
| Macer | this is the same problem i had when trying debian to do this | 02:02 |
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| Macer | yeah. the nokia one seems to work fine. | 02:03 |
| yigal | owell, at least Nokia is good for something then | 02:04 |
| Macer | haha | 02:04 |
| Macer | well. the community ks doesn't seem to work for me | 02:04 |
| Macer | i get some messed up gpg error | 02:04 |
| Macer | at least it is building in fedora tho | 02:04 |
| Macer | so i can just go ahead and let it do its thing | 02:04 |
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| yigal | Macer: I went to this channel to see if I could get Meego on my netbook, I don't want to worry about my n900, not Meego is a bit more developed. | 02:05 |
| yigal | sorry for the typos | 02:06 |
| Macer | heh. well. hope it works out ;) | 02:06 |
| Macer | i don't see a need to put meego on a netbook but i could be wrong | 02:06 |
| Macer | not unless it was something like an ipad. mego should find a way to get it onto an ipad heh | 02:06 |
| yigal | it's because of the EMGD driver for GMA 500/Poulsbo - it's a 9" laptop/tablet | 02:07 |
| yigal | Meego has in theory better support than any other os OS. | 02:08 |
| arjan | for gma500? | 02:08 |
| arjan | sorry.. nope. | 02:08 |
| yigal | arjan: but,but what about the Joggler videos? | 02:08 |
| yigal | arjan: I got so excited when I saw those | 02:09 |
| yigal | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vnwfVtHuhoI | 02:09 |
| yigal | if there is any portability with that work, that would be great | 02:10 |
| tripzero | with the FOSS gma500 driver parts, you do get 2D accelleration | 02:10 |
| tripzero | right? | 02:10 |
| yigal | kind of, but terrible Flash support | 02:10 |
| yigal | via vaapi | 02:11 |
| yigal | yes, and some get 3d | 02:11 |
| ml-mobile | PowerVR will be the bane of mobile linux for a long time to come | 02:11 |
| yigal | no I just should have done more research before I bought my netbook | 02:11 |
| yigal | it's on me, but now that I'm in this situation, what to do | 02:12 |
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| yigal | arjan: So am I missing something with that Youtube video? | 02:15 |
| Macer | could have been worse. you could have bought a touchbook :-P | 02:18 |
| yigal | Macer: The quality was bad, right? | 02:18 |
| Macer | talk about a total piece oc crap | 02:18 |
| Macer | oc/of | 02:18 |
| Macer | bad is an understatement | 02:19 |
| yigal | lol | 02:19 |
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| Macer | i hope that company went out of business | 02:19 |
| Macer | for releasing such a disgusting product onto the public :) | 02:19 |
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| yigal | I remember how it was doted upon in talk.maemo | 02:19 |
| yigal | the idea was cool | 02:19 |
| Macer | yeah but then the thing actually came out | 02:20 |
| Macer | i bought into the hardware of it | 02:20 |
| Macer | but when i got it | 02:20 |
| Macer | unresponsive touch screen | 02:20 |
| Macer | TIPPING OVER! | 02:20 |
| yigal | Macer: you bought one? | 02:20 |
| Macer | yeah :) | 02:20 |
| yigal | ough | 02:20 |
| Macer | sold it like 1 month after i got it | 02:20 |
| Macer | the OS was worse than meego is now with over a year of development | 02:21 |
| Macer | buggy piece of crap | 02:21 |
| Macer | and the worst part was... | 02:21 |
| Macer | the advertised battery time was a lie! | 02:21 |
| Macer | they didn't have the pm working! | 02:21 |
| yigal | even the advertised battery life was a semi-turn off | 02:21 |
| yigal | how long was it? | 02:22 |
| Macer | it was more like 5 or 6 | 02:22 |
| Macer | instead of 14 like they said | 02:22 |
| yigal | ha, rofl | 02:22 |
| Macer | they should have been sued for that | 02:22 |
| Macer | :) | 02:22 |
| Macer | then using it in tablet mode was totally useless | 02:22 |
| yigal | cpu governor powersave, screen brightness 0% | 02:22 |
| Macer | since you needed to damn near press a finger through the thing | 02:22 |
| Macer | in order to get it to work | 02:23 |
| yigal | ha, what people think of when they hear resistive screens | 02:23 |
| Macer | the actual os interface for it didn't work in tablet mode | 02:23 |
| Macer | it was another lie | 02:23 |
| Macer | all it did was have the icons that moved around and didn't work | 02:23 |
| Macer | static images for battery/wifi connections | 02:23 |
| yigal | what? | 02:23 |
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| yigal | that's awful | 02:24 |
| Macer | and what makes it so bad.. if it didn't go out of business yet.. i'm sure it is still just as crappy as when i bought it :) | 02:24 |
| Macer | oh yeah | 02:24 |
| Macer | then there was the random turning off of the screen | 02:24 |
| Macer | it would just blank out | 02:24 |
| yigal | http://www.alwaysinnovating.com/touchbook/ | 02:24 |
| Macer | so i file a bug | 02:24 |
| yigal | looks like it's still operational, go on though Macer | 02:25 |
| Macer | and the guy who runs the company says the most idiotic thing i've ever heard | 02:25 |
| Macer | "well.. it doesn't seem to be a software or hardware issue" | 02:25 |
| Macer | :) | 02:25 |
| tripzero | oh, this touchbook wasn't good? | 02:25 |
| Macer | so the screen blanking was magic | 02:25 |
| tripzero | based on the beagleboard | 02:25 |
| Macer | yes | 02:25 |
| yigal | he might have meant that it was a software AND hardware issue | 02:25 |
| yigal | rofl | 02:25 |
| tripzero | hmm | 02:25 |
| Macer | haha | 02:25 |
| Macer | i wish i had the bug # for that | 02:25 |
| tripzero | i thought about getting one once | 02:26 |
| yigal | me too | 02:26 |
| Macer | once i saw that i sold it to a mer dev | 02:26 |
| Macer | trust me.. an n900 is way better | 02:26 |
| Macer | i will NEVER preorder anything ever again because of the touchbook | 02:26 |
| yigal | other than the screen size, I'm very happy | 02:26 |
| Macer | :) | 02:26 |
| Macer | i even waited a few months on the n900 because i was scarred for life | 02:27 |
| yigal | wow, I thought the Open Pandora preorder was a scandal, | 02:27 |
| yigal | Macer: ya, that's really incredible false advertising | 02:27 |
| Macer | hey. i was with them for the whole... "it's a beta OS" thing | 02:28 |
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| Macer | but once the guy said "it doesn't seem to be a hardware or software issue" | 02:29 |
| Macer | and the thing was tipping over | 02:29 |
| Macer | i gave up :) | 02:29 |
| Macer | i mean cmon.. tipping over? | 02:29 |
| Macer | it was a great idea. and when it was released the omap3 stuff was still fairly new | 02:29 |
| Macer | but in the end it was a total train wreck :) | 02:30 |
| yigal | ya, killed a great idea | 02:30 |
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| yigal | almost the perfect size for portable usefulness, what a bummer | 02:31 |
| Macer | i mean look at their page... | 02:31 |
| Macer | With a simple finger press at startup, the Touch Book will run either our AI OS, Ubuntu, or Android. Mer, Gentoo have also been adapted to the Touch Book. | 02:31 |
| Macer | Google Chrome OS and Maemo are on their way! | 02:31 |
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| Macer | :) filled with lies! | 02:31 |
| yigal | have you been able to post a review somewhere online? | 02:32 |
| yigal | It sounds like it would be very good to potential buyers. | 02:33 |
| CosmoHill | cyas | 02:33 |
| yigal | lata | 02:33 |
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| yigal | On UMPC the touchbook's "related products" are totally different in design to it. The only one somewhat reminiscent is the t91 - my laptop | 02:35 |
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| Macer | haha | 02:36 |
| Macer | maybe some day i will... but yeah.. the thing is a total piece of trash. not only that but it is now outdated non-trendy hardware | 02:36 |
| Macer | it will die on its own soon enough | 02:37 |
| Macer | :) | 02:37 |
| Macer | although i do agree with you | 02:37 |
| Macer | the size of the tablet portion would be a perfect meego size | 02:37 |
| Macer | i think the ipad is perfect meego size. hopefully nokia releases something like that | 02:37 |
| yigal | well there is the JooJoo pad, nothing special hardware wise but? | 02:38 |
| ScottishDuck | JooJoo is terrible | 02:38 |
| yigal | 12" screen never mind | 02:38 |
| yigal | double the size I want | 02:39 |
| yigal | ScottishDuck: ya I know sorry for bringn it up | 02:39 |
| auke | haha | 02:39 |
| auke | I know someone working on joojoo | 02:39 |
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| auke | I wonder why he gave up his job for that :) | 02:40 |
| yigal | auke: The idea of really os OS running natively on the latest rage in hardware makes sense. | 02:41 |
| yigal | but it has to be done right | 02:42 |
| auke | what do you mean with "really os OS" ? | 02:42 |
| yigal | not Android | 02:42 |
| auke | well android itself doesn't make sense | 02:42 |
| yigal | too whom it's been a huge financial success | 02:43 |
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| yigal | ? | 02:44 |
| yigal | s/whom/whom,/ | 02:44 |
| Macer | /root/meego/kickstart/meego-handset-armv7l-n900-nokia-closed-1.0.80.8.20100630.ks-1.0.80.20100728.1803-raw/meego-handset-armv7l-n900-nokia-closed-1.0.80.8.20100630.ks-1.0.80.20100728.1803-sda.raw | 02:45 |
| Macer | woo! | 02:45 |
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| Macer | money doesn't mean tht it is good.. even though.. although i disagree with google's proprietary java method.. it has grown into something that works very well | 02:46 |
| Macer | if only meego can take off like that | 02:46 |
| Macer | and gather as much interest as android has | 02:46 |
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| yigal | Macer: Yes, let's hope, and hope that Meego is as or nearly as cool as it could be | 02:48 |
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| yigal | man FB just keeps getting better http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/28/100-million-facebook-pages-leaked-to-a-torrent-site-creating-th/ | 02:53 |
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| UlfHofemeier | Hi auke :) | 02:59 |
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| yigal | jeez GMA 500 is the bane of the open source mobile enthusiast, Umid M1 MID, that is one nice piece of hardware, except for the GMA 500 | 03:09 |
| auke | I wish people would just call it what it is | 03:09 |
| auke | PowerVR | 03:09 |
| auke | lol | 03:09 |
| yigal | PVRted | 03:10 |
| yigal | lol | 03:11 |
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| thiago | GMA3150 is OpenGL 1.4 only... | 03:14 |
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| ScottishDuck | lole | 03:16 |
| ScottishDuck | All PowerVR tech is terrible | 03:16 |
| ScottishDuck | No doubt that is why tegra2 will become the standard | 03:17 |
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| thiago | we wish | 03:20 |
| thiago | but Tegra is expensive and power-hungry | 03:20 |
| thiago | the tegra consumes 35 W | 03:20 |
| TSCHAKeee | *facepalm* | 03:20 |
| TSCHAKeee | i would support the ARM/Mali200 pairing | 03:21 |
| thiago | if it weren't for that, it would be lovely | 03:21 |
| thiago | Mali is good | 03:21 |
| ScottishDuck | tegra2 | 03:21 |
| thiago | we've had some experience with that one | 03:21 |
| thiago | tegra2, yeah | 03:21 |
| * thiago asked for another board from NVidia | 03:21 | |
| TSCHAKeee | if the ARM guys weren't such dicks and say, "look! we made the drivers GPL'd!" in the headlines | 03:21 |
| TSCHAKeee | followed by, "uh, actually no, we didn't. you still need the BSP" | 03:21 |
| thiago | it's so easy to get hardware once you flash a @nokia.com email :-) | 03:21 |
| TSCHAKeee | "what we open sourced was the zero copy implementation." | 03:22 |
| TSCHAKeee | gee, thanks. | 03:22 |
| thiago | anyway, we've tried Mali and Tegra2 | 03:22 |
| thiago | Tegra2 is definitely better hardware and better driver from NVidia | 03:22 |
| thiago | OpenKODE, OpenWF, OpenGL ES | 03:22 |
| TSCHAKeee | but if you only have a 1 hour battery life... :P | 03:22 |
| thiago | many nice things with it | 03:22 |
| thiago | yeah, that's the problem | 03:22 |
| thiago | you can't use the tegra on a non-powered device | 03:22 |
| thiago | it would work fine for something connected to a continuous device, like STB and IVI | 03:23 |
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| thiago | even though I think STBs have a limit on power consumption too | 03:23 |
| TSCHAKeee | ypu | 03:23 |
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| thiago | continuously-powered device | 03:23 |
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| thiago | mali, on the other hand, is more "mobile-friendly" | 03:23 |
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| thiago | we've got one board running MeeGo without X and first results looked impressive | 03:24 |
| TSCHAKeee | just bolting mcompositor straight to something like QWS? | 03:24 |
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| thiago | QWS can't do OpenGL | 03:24 |
| thiago | it's Lighthouse | 03:24 |
| TSCHAKeee | oh, right. | 03:25 |
| TSCHAKeee | oh ok | 03:25 |
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| thiago | the tegra also had Lighthouse running, btw | 03:25 |
| thiago | that's the one we implemented OpenWF on | 03:26 |
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| Railroadmaster | hello | 04:02 |
| thiago | hello | 04:02 |
| Railroadmaster | I wonder the hardware of the HTC Hd2 seems to be very capable could meego be ported the hd2? | 04:03 |
| TermanaN900 | Railroadmaster, have you read the thread on tmo? | 04:03 |
| Railroadmaster | tmo/ | 04:03 |
| Railroadmaster | tmo? | 04:03 |
| ptl | talk.maemo.org | 04:04 |
| Railroadmaster | oh | 04:04 |
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| Railroadmaster | I thought a better answer would be here | 04:04 |
| Railroadmaster | Being as this place is meego.com | 04:04 |
| thiago | what's the hardware on the Hd2? | 04:04 |
| Railroadmaster | 1ghz snapdragon processor, 4.3 inch 800x480 capacative touchscreen, 5mp camera with dual led flash, 576mb of ram, 1gb of rom, Windows Mobile 6.5 | 04:06 |
| TermanaN900 | Railroadmaster, i just meant that i provided a detailed answer in the thread on tmo | 04:06 |
| Railroadmaster | Driver would be an issue | 04:06 |
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| thiago | looks good so far. What OpenGL ES-capable driver and video card? | 04:06 |
| Railroadmaster | Adreno gpu I think | 04:07 |
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| thiago | is the Linux GL driver good/ | 04:07 |
| Railroadmaster | There are videos demonstrating opengl es 2.0 games on Hd2 | 04:07 |
| thiago | on Linux? | 04:08 |
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| Railroadmaster | changing topic does anyone think meego has potential on handsets because there are already so many mobile platforms I think meego has pontential on netbooks | 04:09 |
| thiago | Nokia thinks MeeGo has potentional on handsets | 04:10 |
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| ml-mobile | I think it does | 04:12 |
| ml-mobile | I certainly prefer it over Android (but that's me) | 04:13 |
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| ptl | +1 | 04:13 |
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| thiago | what a shocker, coming from #meego! :-) | 04:15 |
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| TermanaN900 | :P | 04:15 |
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| vlj | hi | 11:14 |
| vlj | err I've added the ivi repo with emgd drivers to yum | 11:15 |
| vlj | I'm installing xorg-x11-drv-emgd | 11:15 |
| vlj | will it be enough to run or do I need to edit some xorg config file ? | 11:15 |
| vlj | vgrade: ping | 11:15 |
| Stskeeps | see how it reacts without a xorg.conf initially | 11:17 |
| vlj | ok | 11:17 |
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| Spidler | Cake or death! | 11:17 |
| vlj | does not work | 11:18 |
| Stskeeps | vlj: besides that, give me a xorg.0.log | 11:18 |
| vlj | Stskeeps: where do I find it ? | 11:19 |
| Spidler | in /var/log/ | 11:20 |
| Stskeeps | what he said | 11:20 |
| vlj | err | 11:20 |
| Spidler | No, /tmp? | 11:21 |
| Spidler | xorg seems to log to /tmp. .. | 11:21 |
| vlj | Stskeeps: it said "Failed to load module "psb" "pvr" "fbdev" (modules does not exist,0)" "No drivers available" | 11:21 |
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| vlj | yup in /tmp | 11:21 |
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| vlj | so I need to create a xorg | 11:21 |
| Stskeeps | use the one from joggler as a model i gues | 11:24 |
| Stskeeps | s | 11:24 |
| Stskeeps | there's always the chance it won't work on a netbook, though - a joggler is actually an embedded device | 11:24 |
| vlj | the one from joggler is not provided :/ | 11:25 |
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| Stskeeps | sure it is | 11:25 |
| Stskeeps | sec | 11:25 |
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| Stskeeps | http://dl.dropbox.com/u/5715485/joggler-emgd.ks contains it | 11:26 |
| vlj | thx | 11:26 |
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| koupsaa | morning | 11:27 |
| vlj | in fact it didnt install any emgd drivers | 11:30 |
| vlj | there no libemgd.so in /usr/lib/xorg/modules/driver | 11:30 |
| vlj | :/ | 11:31 |
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| vlj | in fact yum does not save anything | 11:36 |
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| MmadA | Where I can find spec files which I can use to build rpms? | 11:40 |
| MmadA | Is it public? | 11:41 |
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| koupsaa | MmdA, http://wiki.meego.com/Packaging/Guidelines | 11:46 |
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| MmadA | koupsaa: I see there some informations how to create packages, how to modify spec files but... I still don't know where I can find spec files... | 11:54 |
| koupsaa | MmdA, in fact often, *.spec are in source in *.tar.gz | 11:54 |
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| MmadA | koupsaa: Yes, I know. But is there something like repo with spec files? | 11:55 |
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| MmadA | I just want to get all specs to check some dependencys without getting all sources. | 11:55 |
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| koupsaa | nop i don't think so. you can have it from git or *.src.rpm | 11:56 |
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| MmadA | koupsaa: OK. Thanks. | 11:56 |
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| MmadA | O, so there are in git also? | 11:57 |
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| koupsaa | oops sorry i dont see spec in git | 11:59 |
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| MmadA | koupsaa: Thanks. ;) | 12:09 |
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| CosmoHill | son of a bitch | 12:41 |
| CosmoHill | the new firefox said that if adobe flash crashed, firefox wouldn't | 12:41 |
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| CosmoHill | but it has >.< | 12:42 |
| PolarFox | plugin-container can crash too :) | 12:42 |
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| dm8tbr | yes but that doesn't crash firefox (usually) | 12:42 |
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| dm8tbr | also I'm not sure if OOPP is working fully on OSX yet | 12:43 |
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| CosmoHill | that might explain the crash | 12:46 |
| CosmoHill | that and adobe is horrible on...well just horrible | 12:46 |
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| Stskeeps | hmm, is there an on-screen keyboard for netbook ux? | 12:52 |
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| koupsaa | matchbox-keyboard | 12:53 |
| koupsaa | Stskeeps: | 12:54 |
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| lbt | Jaffa: do you want an OBS account? | 13:02 |
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| koupsaa | OBS is for nokia and intel people ? | 13:03 |
| Stskeeps | obs is a wide term | 13:04 |
| koupsaa | for now? | 13:04 |
| lcuk | OBS is for ordinary people! | 13:04 |
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| lbt | I think that a nice way to describe the kind of beta tester we need now is essentially .. do you just want to use it... or do you want to shape it? | 13:05 |
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| * Stskeeps sits down and makes a joggler netbook distro for his wife | 13:06 | |
| lbt | ....by first typing into the wiki and cut'n'pasting as he goes into a cli... | 13:07 |
| koupsaa | Stkeeps should put georges clooney in background | 13:07 |
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| ChildOfGod | One of my panels on the netbook ux keeps crashing an it generates a core dump. How do I see the core dump and how do I see why it is crashing? | 13:33 |
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| Phazorx | correct me if i am wrong please - the "chrome" version has the chrome and "default" has chromium? | 14:49 |
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| CosmoHill | correct | 14:50 |
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| Phazorx | chromium 6 and chrome 5 right ? | 14:51 |
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| Phazorx | also... perhaps a silly question but, there is relaease 1.0 and update 1.0.1... i see image for release... but is there a patcher for update or it is deployed after the system is up and running? | 15:00 |
| CosmoHill | I've not seen an image for the 1.0.1 either | 15:04 |
| CosmoHill | I'm assuming that it's a minor update and that you can simply update via zypper / yum | 15:04 |
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| lbt | mmm just had a strange thing... phone call from "the computer maintanance company" | 15:39 |
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| lbt | phoned me at home and asked for me by name... | 15:40 |
| Stskeeps | did they know how to fix your broken RAID? | 15:40 |
| lbt | tried to talk me into editing my security settings as we spoke... | 15:40 |
| lbt | really hard to google screenshots on the fly to tease out the call | 15:40 |
| lbt | "right click on my computer and read me the options..." | 15:40 |
| lbt | kept them going for 30 mins though.... ;) | 15:41 |
| lbt | but really interesting .... she was a reasonably smart girl.... | 15:41 |
| Stskeeps | so they wanted to hack your computer? | 15:42 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 15:42 |
| lbt | yeah... by phone! | 15:42 |
| lbt | that's a first for me | 15:42 |
| * Stskeeps wonders if he should base on handset or netbook ux for joggler | 15:42 | |
| Stskeeps | use case is a kitchen computer | 15:42 |
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| lbt | handset | 15:47 |
| lbt | standing up to use it | 15:47 |
| Stskeeps | mm, true | 15:47 |
| lbt | bigger buttons probably | 15:47 |
| lbt | although.... IVI may be even better... | 15:47 |
| vgrade_ | the ivi UX did look liike it would be matched to the joggler touch screen | 15:52 |
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| Stskeeps | we can retheme handset ux you know | 15:53 |
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| daisy21 | Hi all, I am trying to install mplayer at the moment. I have taken the source and when i do a make install I error out at "can't find a register class GENERAL_REGS while reloading asm" | 16:18 |
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| daisy21 | Has anyone seen this before or know a workaround? | 16:18 |
| thiago | it's a source-code problem | 16:19 |
| thiago | you need to address it with the mplayer community | 16:19 |
| daisy21 | So there is no way I can install mplayer? | 16:19 |
| thiago | there may be, you just need to fix the source code | 16:20 |
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| daisy21 | why won't yum install work do you know? | 16:21 |
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| thiago | what does it say? | 16:23 |
| daisy21 | no mplayer package | 16:23 |
| thiago | that's why it won't work | 16:23 |
| daisy21 | So can you tell me why there is no mplayer package???? | 16:24 |
| thiago | because no one packaged it and no one felt it was necessary | 16:25 |
| thiago | meego uses gstreamer for its multimedia needs and it has its own video player | 16:25 |
| daisy21 | banshee? | 16:26 |
| thiago | I actually don't know which | 16:26 |
| daisy21 | ok thanks | 16:28 |
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| sandst1 | http://abock.org/2010/05/26/banshee-for-meego | 16:28 |
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| _wolf_ | oXwro77! | 17:48 |
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| slonopotamus | _wolf_: now we know your master-password. | 17:49 |
| h4xordood | Stskeeps: heya :) | 17:49 |
| _wolf_ | sorry, I already changed it ;) | 17:49 |
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| Phazorx | silly Q but what's default root pw? | 18:01 |
| Stskeeps | meego | 18:01 |
| Phazorx | nope | 18:02 |
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| Phazorx | actually | 18:02 |
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| Phazorx | it might be, but user is not on sudo list? | 18:03 |
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| h4xordood | Stskeeps: now can i try meego or wait ? | 18:04 |
| Stskeeps | has it been a week? :P | 18:04 |
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| h4xordood | may be i guess :P | 18:07 |
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| Phazorx | hmm... chromium being ungodly slow and irresponsive - is there a cure for that? | 18:19 |
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| ilembitov | Hi. Whenever I try to run update manager, I get a message that the software sources aren't "verified". I guess, I don't have a gpg signature of them. How do I fix it? | 19:23 |
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| Phazorx | does syslinux has any limmitation about starting cylinder on boot drive? | 19:38 |
| Phazorx | (as in will i be able to boot from partition wich is in second hakf of 250g drive?) | 19:38 |
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| Phazorx | . | 20:35 |
| auke | CosmoHill: can I add programmers to the list? | 20:37 |
| Phazorx | is there hibernate functionality for meego? | 20:37 |
| CosmoHill | the list of things that have gone wrong today of your personal shitlist? | 20:38 |
| auke | Phazorx: nope | 20:39 |
| auke | CosmoHill: yes yes | 20:39 |
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| Phazorx | nope because it is not needed or there is some other reason? | 20:41 |
| Phazorx | and win7 just overwrote bootsector again... is there a way to fight it ? | 20:41 |
| CosmoHill | auke: wanna rant / vent? | 20:41 |
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| CosmoHill | Phazorx: there is a guide about installing meego, ubuntu and windows 7 on the same computer | 20:44 |
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| CosmoHill | I just don't understand why windows 2008 can't get the time and date from the internet just like every other computer | 20:46 |
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| Stskeeps | CosmoHill: i'm more baffled why the n900 has a huge closed source time stack and it still asks me about the time of day when battery has been out for a bit | 20:46 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 20:46 |
| CosmoHill | hehe | 20:47 |
| Phazorx | CosmoHill: it is installed that isnt the issue | 20:47 |
| CosmoHill | i meant so that you can boot to them | 20:48 |
| Phazorx | but as soon as i booted win7 after booting to megoo several times win7 went into recovery mod | 20:48 |
| CosmoHill | oh | 20:48 |
| Phazorx | and some vendor software silently fixed the mbr | 20:48 |
| Phazorx | so extlinux stuff is overwritten | 20:48 |
| Phazorx | so i went to boot off usb drive again | 20:48 |
| Phazorx | and reinstalled extlinux | 20:48 |
| Phazorx | hoping that it was a fluke | 20:48 |
| Phazorx | but it wasnt | 20:49 |
| Phazorx | i wonder if i can get win7 loader to boot meego though... | 20:49 |
| CosmoHill | you sure it's installing to the MBR? | 20:50 |
| Phazorx | which "it" ? | 20:50 |
| Phazorx | win7 is a bit weird, especially on netbooks | 20:51 |
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| CosmoHill | the linux bit | 20:52 |
| Phazorx | vendros slap recovery partitition on and that complicates things | 20:52 |
| CosmoHill | I've seen a netbook with win7 starter | 20:52 |
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| Phazorx | w/o linux there are 3 partitions | 20:52 |
| CosmoHill | i duno which was crap, the netbook or the OS | 20:52 |
| Phazorx | sda3 is the windows itself | 20:52 |
| Phazorx | sda1 is the boot manager | 20:52 |
| Phazorx | sda2 is the recovery | 20:53 |
| CosmoHill | some vendors do stupid things | 20:53 |
| Phazorx | so regular boot sequence is sda1>sda3 | 20:53 |
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| CosmoHill | like have two 250GB partitions on a 500GB laptop | 20:53 |
| Phazorx | but if bootmanager seems somthing fishy it does sda1>sda2 | 20:53 |
| CosmoHill | is sda1 marked as active? | 20:53 |
| Phazorx | well they always split 50/50 | 20:53 |
| Phazorx | CosmoHill: it was before i started messing with it | 20:53 |
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| Phazorx | lemme check | 20:54 |
| Phazorx | it still is | 20:54 |
| CosmoHill | but people thing the 2nd 250GB is a different hard drive and they then wonder why when the first hard drive goes the 2nd has gone too | 20:54 |
| Phazorx | but the thing is boot manager and win loader is 2 diff things | 20:54 |
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| Phazorx | in theory i should make meego to point to sda3 | 20:54 |
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| Phazorx | but i doubt it will work with hibernation and other advanced booting crap then | 20:55 |
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| Phazorx | u | 21:09 |
| Phazorx | u | 21:09 |
| CosmoHill | yes, me | 21:09 |
| CosmoHill | hey dazo | 21:09 |
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| * lbt sent of his credentials for access to the community OBS HW... :) | 21:16 | |
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| dazo | CosmoHill: wazzup! | 21:16 |
| CosmoHill | Open Build Service Home Work? | 21:16 |
| CosmoHill | dazo: mind if I ask a redhat question? | 21:17 |
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| dazo | CosmoHill: shoot | 21:25 |
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| * dazo is in a meeting, so might not respond too quick | 21:25 | |
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| * CosmoHill takes out a duck with a double barrel | 21:26 | |
| CosmoHill | why is openmpi installed in /usr/lib64/openmpi ? | 21:26 |
| CosmoHill | why not just /usr or /opt/openmpi? | 21:26 |
| Stskeeps | lbt: woo :) | 21:28 |
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| dazo | CosmoHill: that you need to ask the package maintainer ... it's most probably the same in Fedora as well, as most RHEL packages are coming from Fedora | 21:35 |
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| CosmoHill | kk | 21:36 |
| CosmoHill | thanks :) | 21:36 |
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| ni| | hiya | 21:54 |
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| crybaby | anyone have hardware that works with this os? | 21:55 |
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| Stskeeps | i have a joggler and a n900 | 21:55 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 21:55 |
| crybaby | cool | 21:55 |
| crybaby | i have ATT and am looking for a phone to use for development | 21:56 |
| crybaby | suggestions? | 21:56 |
| crybaby | the aava isn't available afaik | 21:56 |
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| Stskeeps | AT&T and n900 isn't happy together sadly | 21:57 |
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| crybaby | Stskeeps: well not for 3g | 21:58 |
| crybaby | but free software is more important to me than speed. | 21:59 |
| crybaby | i make money with apple | 21:59 |
| crybaby | sadly | 21:59 |
| crybaby | trying to go open -- regardless | 21:59 |
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| lbt | crybaby: \o/ | 22:05 |
| crybaby | lbt: ? | 22:05 |
| lbt | "<crybaby> trying to go open -- regardless" | 22:05 |
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| lbt | :) | 22:05 |
| crybaby | lbt: you're from uk cambridge lab | 22:06 |
| crybaby | i knew i saw that name somewhere | 22:06 |
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| lbt | no | 22:06 |
| crybaby | what is known about aava | 22:06 |
| lbt | UK | 22:06 |
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| lbt | but not cambridge | 22:06 |
| crybaby | lbt: ok | 22:06 |
| crybaby | sry | 22:06 |
| lbt | np at all | 22:07 |
| crybaby | can someone briefly describe the differences between android and meego | 22:07 |
| lbt | Mr Google can | 22:07 |
| lbt | meego is linux | 22:07 |
| lbt | android isn't | 22:07 |
| lbt | hmmm... meego is gnu/linux android is almost-linux | 22:08 |
| lbt | closer... | 22:08 |
| crybaby | ok that makes sense | 22:08 |
| crybaby | android runs on their vm | 22:08 |
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| crybaby | and has some proprietary software | 22:08 |
| crybaby | lbt: you're saying meego is actually free software | 22:09 |
| lbt | oh yes | 22:09 |
| lbt | all GPL | 22:09 |
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| crybaby | ok | 22:09 |
| lbt | devices may (will) include non-gpl... | 22:10 |
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| lbt | Stskeeps: cbuild:~ # | 22:13 |
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| crybaby | lbt: any device recommendations | 22:14 |
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| lbt | N900, Joggler | 22:15 |
| lbt | you're in the UK? | 22:15 |
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| csd_ | Hi - whats the status of the OBS server ? Can I get an account on it? Thanks | 22:16 |
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| lbt | csd_: it's currently open for beta testing, not normal use. | 22:17 |
| csd_ | I'm also trying to set up a local obs server and I'm having trouble writing the conf file for the meego repository - does anyone have one to share? | 22:17 |
| lbt | sure | 22:17 |
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| lbt | http://pastie.org/1065975 | 22:19 |
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| crybaby | lbt: no i'm on at&t in the use | 22:44 |
| crybaby | usa | 22:44 |
| lbt | ah.. OK | 22:45 |
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| crybaby | lbt: recommendations? | 22:45 |
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| lbt | sorry, I have none... | 22:47 |
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| Phazorx | evening | 22:55 |
| Phazorx | more issues here... brightness buttons are not responding and double finger scrolling is not pssible to enable... do i need to pass some params to drivers? | 22:55 |
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| Phazorx | saand now gnome teels me D-bus manager is missing... is that normal too? | 23:17 |
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| csd_ | sigh. for the last couple of days I've never seen a response to my msgs. I thought I was just being ignored - but I went through the irc logs and saw the responses now. I'm using a web-to-irc relay (webchat.freenode.net) 'cause my office IT blocks off irc ports | 23:22 |
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| csd_ | and I suspect it is the reason why I saw no responses - can anyone suggest another web-to-irc relay? I'll check the logs for responses... | 23:22 |
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| csd_ | lbt: thanks for the .conf file, it seems to be working for me with a minor mod | 23:24 |
| csd_ | --- /home/csd/Download/pastie-1065975.rb 2010-07-29 13:07:36.068663697 -0700 +++ meego-local.conf 2010-07-29 13:10:00.867123151 -0700 @@ -107,7 +107,7 @@ # Removed by lbt - not in mirror # Preinstall: liblua %else -Preinstall: lua +Preinstall: lua liblua %endif Preinstall: bash bzip2 coreutils diffutils db4 Preinstall: filesystem grep glibc glibc-common libacl libattr | 23:24 |
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| lbt | yeah... I've had lua issues | 23:24 |
| csd_ | hmm - that cut-n-paste diff didn't work. I just added liblue to the Preinstall in the %else of the "repository" == standard | 23:25 |
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| csd_ | so what do you want of a beta tester? I'm happy to wait (now that I finally setup a meego obs locally) but also happy to help beta testing if I can | 23:26 |
| csd_ | s/liblue/liblua/ | 23:26 |
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| lbt | csd_: tbh I'm focusing on setting up the new OBS HW now... so hacking on your OBS will get you more useful knowledge :) | 23:30 |
| Phazorx | anyone can confirm that double-finger scrolling is working at least at some netbooks? | 23:30 |
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| csd_ | ok. thanks. Just had to disable lint on the conf file because all of my test packages are failing now :-) | 23:39 |
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| Phazorx | oh... this is very nasty... samsung "modified" win7 boo manager checks for partition types matching default and FORMATS the modified partitions | 23:41 |
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| Phazorx | so... can i boot meego somehow with bcd? | 23:47 |
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| villev | http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=ODQ1MQ | 23:48 |
| CosmoHill | ooo | 23:48 |
| CosmoHill | I must have missed that, thanks villev | 23:48 |
| villev | Jesse Barnes of Intel has been porting Qt 4.7 to run on Wayland and his current code-base can be found in his personal Git repository | 23:48 |
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| villev | no waiting for x11 crusades to re-emerge... | 23:49 |
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| CosmoHill | I'd like to try wayland but I've not gotten as far as a gui on my linux builds | 23:52 |
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| Phazorx | is it possible to replace extlinux by grub or something like it? | 23:58 |
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| Phazorx | i'm tryin to load meego with easybcd | 23:58 |
| Phazorx | but there is no easy way to do it with extlin apparently | 23:58 |
| CosmoHill | you can probably use grub | 23:58 |
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| CosmoHill | I use grub2 on my laptop regardless of the distro / os | 23:59 |
| Phazorx | well meego came with extlinux | 23:59 |
| Phazorx | i'm more attached to grub since it's been serving me perfectly | 23:59 |
| CosmoHill | redhat came with grub but I skipped the bootloader and sued my own | 23:59 |
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