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| CosmoHill | anyone got "addiected to bass 2010?" | 00:21 |
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| thiago_home | sounds like a CD | 00:21 |
| CosmoHill | correct | 00:22 |
| * thiago_home bought Love from The Beatles last, for himself | 00:22 | |
| thiago_home | and some CD as gifts | 00:22 |
| thiago_home | let me check if that one is available on Spotify | 00:22 |
| thiago_home | no, can't find it | 00:23 |
| CosmoHill | http://www.amazon.co.uk/review/RB9SE1AXUYBJ1 | 00:27 |
| CosmoHill | this person is clearly a moron | 00:27 |
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| * CosmoHill could do with some CDs | 01:23 | |
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| CosmoHill | wb | 01:24 |
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| CosmoHill | i see you're on a mac | 01:24 |
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| DawnFoster | hi CosmoHill. I am :) | 01:24 |
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| CosmoHill | my mac is old but still going | 01:28 |
| DawnFoster | I like my mac. I have lots of great apps + a unix command line, which is the perfect combo for me. | 01:30 |
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| red | i could prolly learn to live with a mac if I could replace the dock with a ubuntu style panel, and the finder with anything else, even windows explorer would suffice better :) | 01:32 |
| * ImadSousou is surprised Dawn is not running MeeGo | 01:32 | |
| red | and the dreadful minimize, maximize and close positioning | 01:32 |
| red | *sgamma:~/public_html/ot03/my >cvs ci -m "25.03.2010 Tehdyt työt." ChangeLog | 01:32 |
| red | hivgamma:~/public_html/ot03/my >cvs ci -m "25.03.2010 Tehdyt työt." ChangeLog | 01:32 |
| red | oops | 01:32 |
| red | stupid touchpad :) | 01:33 |
| DawnFoster | ImadSousou: I run MeeGo too :) | 01:33 |
| ImadSousou | cool | 01:33 |
| CosmoHill | hey ImadSousou | 01:33 |
| CosmoHill | welcome | 01:33 |
| ImadSousou | hey Cosmo | 01:33 |
| ImadSousou | what's up | 01:34 |
| CosmoHill | DawnFoster: has one of them new fangles intel macs | 01:34 |
| red | any of you guys heard of jolicloud? | 01:34 |
| ImadSousou | jolicloud -- hmm, sounds like a drug (the good kind) | 01:34 |
| DawnFoster | CosmoHill: yes, I do, and the Intel macs are zippy! | 01:34 |
| CosmoHill | sounds like a cloud distro | 01:34 |
| red | it's based on jaunty | 01:34 |
| red | but with pretty sugar on top :) | 01:35 |
| red | been testing it on my netbook for few weeks now, everything works quite nicely out of the box | 01:35 |
| red | they've seen a lot trouble to get the kernel support even more stuff than basic ubuntu distro does, especially on the small laptop front | 01:35 |
| CosmoHill | i found 2.6.32 or .33 easy to config | 01:36 |
| CosmoHill | you enabled the FS you wanted and the rest it did yourself | 01:37 |
| CosmoHill | *itself | 01:40 |
| CosmoHill | cyas | 01:46 |
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| lbt | hi ImadSousou | 01:50 |
| lbt | DawnFoster: stickers :) +1 | 01:50 |
| lbt | ImadSousou: seen http://wiki.meego.com/Proposal_for_a_Repository_working_group | 01:51 |
| lbt | anyone here know about Meego being ssse3 and so not allowing non-ssse3 capable systems to run it? | 01:53 |
| lbt | eg no developers using AMD desktops can use the build tools | 01:54 |
| lbt | even my poor old Pentium 4 Prescott can't AFAIK... | 01:55 |
| lbt | nm, some other time... | 01:57 |
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| DawnFoster | lbt: I'm hoping to have stickers in a couple of weeks to bring to the Collaboration Summit for the MeeGo workgroup *crossing fingers* | 02:00 |
| DawnFoster | lbt: have you already asked that question in the meego-dev mailing list? You should be able to get a better response there. | 02:02 |
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| Stskeeps | http://www.itworld.com/open-source/101641/open-source-not-democracy?source=smlynch seems quite good in the MeeGo context | 08:21 |
| RST38h | This sounds like pointless argumentation | 08:28 |
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| RST38h | DE FACTO the project is controlled by the guy who has commit rights to CVS and the guy who pays money to the first guy and so on | 08:29 |
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| RST38h | So, all these long arguments about WHY open source is not a democracy and so on and so forth are futile | 08:29 |
| RST38h | In fact, we do not need to go very far. Consider maemo.org. Who controls maemo.org? ;) | 08:30 |
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| vilvo | there's still content and content | 08:49 |
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| Anss| | Stskeeps, there were also few comments that deserves reading. | 09:12 |
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| timjiang | who can tell me the result of meego-meeting in 24th | 10:25 |
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| Stskeeps | http://trac.tspre.org/meetbot/meego-meeting/2010/meego-meeting.2010-03-24-19.58.html | 10:27 |
| Anss| | or here: http://meego.mkdir.name/logs/meego-meeting/2010/ | 10:27 |
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| timjiang | thanks | 10:33 |
| Anss| | well my link was not up to date actually :) | 10:33 |
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| slaine | morning all | 10:36 |
| Stskeeps | morning slaine | 10:36 |
| Stskeeps | slaine: you're a typical moblin/meego developer or are you more in platform development? | 10:37 |
| slaine | bit of both | 10:37 |
| Stskeeps | what tools did you use in moblin? | 10:37 |
| slaine | I was looking at both the platform and the app stack on moblin for use on some flatpanel PC's we use | 10:37 |
| slaine | Stskeeps: how do you mean ? | 10:38 |
| slaine | vim/gcc/gdb | 10:38 |
| Stskeeps | like, what tools you used, MIC2, moblin-chroot, etc | 10:38 |
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| slaine | well, creating an os, mic2. moblin-chroot doesn't really do much beyond mounting the appropriate stuff | 10:39 |
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| Stskeeps | for development and building apps/packages what was used? | 10:39 |
| Stskeeps | (i'm trying to gain an understanding of the existing landscape) | 10:39 |
| slaine | vim, rpmbuild | 10:39 |
| Stskeeps | inside the chroot? | 10:39 |
| slaine | either on a netbook or in a VM (VM using the XFCE desktop rather than the Moblin UX) | 10:40 |
| Stskeeps | :nod: | 10:40 |
| Stskeeps | ever tried to develop for ARM as well? | 10:40 |
| slaine | Not so far, but I'm hoping to soon | 10:40 |
| Stskeeps | how would you like the developer experience to be in that regard? | 10:40 |
| slaine | Looking at getting a few ARM dev boards for a Set Top Box project I'm working on | 10:40 |
| Stskeeps | as you're now targetting a platform that's not your development machine | 10:41 |
| slaine | Stskeeps: I've no idea how cross-compiling is typically managed | 10:41 |
| slaine | but some sort of VM would be vital I'd imagine | 10:41 |
| Stskeeps | :nod: | 10:42 |
| Stskeeps | for emulation or for development? | 10:42 |
| slaine | Bit of both I guess | 10:42 |
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| Stskeeps | :nod: | 10:42 |
| slaine | My understanding is that the platform will be the same across x86 and ARM | 10:42 |
| slaine | So I'm expecting to develope as I normally do (terminal/vim/gcc/gdb) | 10:43 |
| slaine | Then I should be able to arm compile and push to a VM for testing (not sure if ARM compiling happens in a VM or not) | 10:43 |
| Stskeeps | so you'd develop on your native machine and then ask it to compile for arm? | 10:43 |
| slaine | I'd imagine that's how it's done | 10:44 |
| Stskeeps | k | 10:44 |
| slaine | do you typically compile under ARM env ? | 10:44 |
| slaine | My personal setup is as follows | 10:45 |
| slaine | Desktop/Laptop is typically a Mac. I have terminals open and I'm ssh'd all over the place to either | 10:45 |
| Stskeeps | no, i use OBS, then it's a matter of osc build armv5el *.spec and it builds it locally for me | 10:45 |
| slaine | 1) A VirtualBOX VM of some Linux derivative either for Work (custom linux stack) or personal (Fedora 12/Moblin) | 10:46 |
| slaine | 2) A live linux box either a buildhost at work or a netbook at home | 10:46 |
| Stskeeps | :nod: | 10:46 |
| slaine | Stskeeps: at the moment, I use rpmbuild to create my packages | 10:46 |
| Stskeeps | you have a company, would instructions how to set up a company OBS and how to link it with meego OBS be useful? | 10:47 |
| slaine | but I've no problem transitioning to the OBS tools. Looking forward to learning about them actually | 10:47 |
| slaine | Stskeeps: hell yes | 10:47 |
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| slaine | I work here as the senior engineer (http://www.lincor.com) | 10:47 |
| Stskeeps | :nod: | 10:48 |
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| Stskeeps | do you have to do closed source stuff too so you don't want to publish sources on a public cluster? | 10:48 |
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| Stskeeps | (OBS cluster) | 10:50 |
| slaine | Yes, we reuse a lot of OSS pushing patches upstream | 10:51 |
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| slaine | But we have our IP which are a group of applications that makes it all work for permissions and billing etc. | 10:51 |
| Stskeeps | you're going to be active over the weekend? | 10:51 |
| slaine | not sure, there's a lot on family wise this weekend | 10:51 |
| Stskeeps | k | 10:52 |
| slaine | You wanting to organize some time ? | 10:52 |
| Stskeeps | would you mind if i grab some feedback of various developer level issues when you're around? | 10:52 |
| Stskeeps | just to get an 'outsiders' perspective of meego devel | 10:52 |
| slaine | Of course (does that mean you're an insider ?) | 10:52 |
| Stskeeps | we had a pretty good developer offering in Mer, so i'm looking for input how to propose better development | 10:53 |
| slaine | right | 10:53 |
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| Anss| | so meego is meritocracy then? | 11:25 |
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| Stskeeps | meritocracy with two set out dictators initially | 11:30 |
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| X-Fade | Stskeeps: That is actually a nice description :) | 11:31 |
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| slaine | a meritocracy run by two benevolent dictators | 11:43 |
| slaine | I like it :) | 11:43 |
| slaine | We're better than the kernel project as we have failover dictators | 11:44 |
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| RST38h | Got any subjects already? =) | 11:46 |
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| Anss| | slaine, i don't think it is constitutional dictatorship | 11:47 |
| slaine | I know, I'm kiddingf | 11:47 |
| slaine | It's friday after all | 11:47 |
| Anss| | Friday \o/ | 11:48 |
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| Anss| | hopefully the 1. day comes quickly. | 11:50 |
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| Anss| | hands are itching to do smth | 11:51 |
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| PredAlien | duh what happened to the old furnet channels like feral dragon | 19:15 |
| leinir | PredAlien: A good question, really... my guess would be some of them moved to anthrochat... i still hang mostly on furnet, though :) One thing, however - i fail to see how this has any reference to MeeGo ;) | 19:19 |
| PredAlien | thanks for the advice leinir | 19:20 |
| PredAlien | what kinda name is that anyways | 19:20 |
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| leinir | MeeGo? Well, it's the sort of name that happens when two very, very large companies panic as they realise a week before an announcement of a project that they've not got a trademarkable name for it ;) | 19:21 |
| PredAlien | oh good the snowing lightened up | 19:22 |
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| Myrtti | when a daddy Intel and mommy Nokia love each other very very much... | 19:22 |
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| leinir | Myrtti: *giggles* Indeed ;) | 19:23 |
| PredAlien | don't even go to the birds and the bees thing sheesh | 19:24 |
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| Myrtti | ♬♪ birds do it, bees do it, even educated fleas do it. Let's do it... LET'S FALL IN LOVE ♬♪ | 19:25 |
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| Myrtti | erm. yeah. | 19:25 |
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| * GAN900 sighs at the MeeGo council thread. | 19:27 | |
| PredAlien | well i'm not gonna do it i'm staying single | 19:27 |
| GAN900 | I'll believe it when I see it. . . . | 19:27 |
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| PredAlien | well i'm outta here gonna see what everyone's talking about on anthrochat peace out | 19:28 |
| PredAlien | *opens shadow gate from kingdom hearts 2 & leaves site | 19:29 |
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| leinir | ...random :) | 19:31 |
| DawnFoster | yeah, very random. Gotta love irc :) | 19:31 |
| leinir | *giggles* Indeed :) | 19:32 |
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| colonelqubit | Who is the list maintainer for meego-dev/meego-community ? | 20:19 |
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| auke | colonelqubit: M. Shaver | 20:23 |
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| DawnFoster | colonelqubit: I've removed the user that was sending messages to the list about not getting messages if that's what you're getting at. | 20:36 |
| w00t_ | DawnFoster: from all the lists? | 20:39 |
| DawnFoster | yes. | 20:39 |
| DawnFoster | initially, just the one, but after the second message I removed them from all of the others. | 20:40 |
| w00t_ | okidokie :) | 20:40 |
| w00t_ | wasn't sure you saw the second | 20:40 |
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| colonelqubit | DawnFoster: Thanks. I emailed the owner last night as the person emailed me back personally yesterdya | 20:42 |
| DawnFoster | colonelqubit: thanks. I'm not sure how they ended up on the list in the first place (prank maybe) | 20:43 |
| DawnFoster | they seemed a bit clueless about the whole process | 20:43 |
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| Myrtti | coming from Ubuntu surroundings I find it a bit weird that the community council for Maemo (and the suggestions for the Meego one) is for one year with all the council members being shuffled over every year unless they choose to run for a second term. | 20:55 |
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| Myrtti | but I guess there's some logic in the term length that I just fail to notice | 20:57 |
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| dieb_ | does meego specify any search engine / file tracker on its architecture ? e.g. gnome Tracker | 21:25 |
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| leinir | It should hardly matter, if the backend supports SPARQL | 21:26 |
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| maiden | hello | 21:50 |
| Stskeeps | hello | 21:52 |
| maiden | how is ig gooing with the meego project? i suspect that there have happend alot more then what the homepage says.. | 21:53 |
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| DawnFoster | are we boring you, stskeeps? | 23:36 |
| Stskeeps | nah, tired after a long day of hacking :) | 23:37 |
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| Stskeeps | even though i'll bet i'll wake up at 6 tomorrow morning and feel like hacking :P | 23:40 |
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| DawnFoster | at least it's a productive obsession :) | 23:41 |
| lbt_ | evening all | 23:45 |
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| DawnFoster | evening lbt | 23:45 |
| lbt | hi Dawn | 23:45 |
| * lbt prods Carsten to be sociable and say "hi" | 23:46 | |
| lbt | spent a day looking at QA integration around the OBS | 23:47 |
| lbt | I'm really looking forward to seeing some of that infrastructure out there | 23:47 |
| lbt | Stskeeps: any news on day 1? | 23:48 |
| Stskeeps | lbt, in bed by now and hi :P | 23:48 |
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| Stskeeps | they announced a date in tsg meeting | 23:48 |
| Stskeeps | i think | 23:48 |
| lbt | ah, I musta missed that | 23:48 |
| Stskeeps | end of month is approaching so :P | 23:49 |
| lbt | indeed ... next wednesday is the deadline... | 23:49 |
| lbt | Denise wants to make sure you tell Bogna she likes the chocs/mallow/vanilla? | 23:50 |
| lbt | anyhow - talk to you tomorrow... 'night | 23:50 |
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