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| BluesLee | ping | 09:51 |
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| BluesLee | i want to install the cssu, do some packages from extras-devel conflict with it? for instance hildon-desktop_kinetic or hildon-desktop_double_column? | 09:53 |
| BluesLee | should i uninstall them before, also my theme etc? | 09:54 |
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| Lava_Croft | uninstall before, if they conflict | 10:05 |
| Lava_Croft | it should notify if something conflicts | 10:06 |
| Lava_Croft | look at topic | 10:06 |
| Lava_Croft | install faq | 10:06 |
| BluesLee | Lava_Croft: thanks for the faq hint | 10:06 |
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| mirakels | Hi cssu... | 10:58 |
| mirakels | trying to setup the replacement obexd package | 10:59 |
| mirakels | pr1.3 has obexd 0.18, but the pbap/irmc thread on maemo talk created obexd2 as an 'addon' | 10:59 |
| mirakels | obexd2 does not replace obexd-0.18 but moves around a few files and puts some new version instead. | 11:00 |
| mirakels | so current n900 owners may have just the obexd-0.18 package or may have obexd-0.18 and obexd2-0.3x | 11:00 |
| mirakels | For cssu I want to creat a obexd-0.37 package that should replace obexd-0.18 but also removes any existing 0bexd2 packages | 11:01 |
| mirakels | I tought a 'Replace: obexd" directive in the debian/control file should do that, but it does not seem to work on my n900 | 11:02 |
| mirakels | The obexd2 package is still ther :( | 11:02 |
| mirakels | Anyone in the know on how todo this properly? | 11:02 |
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| macmaN | thp: can you enlighten me how come nokia's engineering team was not able to deliver screen rotation like your patches do now | 17:40 |
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| thp | macmaN: how should i know? ;) i guess they have fixed UX guidelines that won't be changed once defined (at least that's what i gather from closed-as-WONTFIX bug reports against the UI spec) | 17:59 |
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| macmaN | hmm | 18:01 |
| macmaN | in my imagination knowing would be something like looking at the diff and facepalming @ nokia's code | 18:01 |
| macmaN | but i may be mistaken :) | 18:02 |
| macmaN | since handling screen rotation on mobile is so far voodooish for me | 18:02 |
| macmaN | how come logs2html doesnt have an RSS feature | 18:05 |
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| macmaN | nm filed bug @ launchpad | 18:08 |
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| thp | macmaN: you can have a look at hildon-desktop's source. it's not so difficult, and my changes are minimal patches | 18:37 |
| thp | most of the "good stufF" was already in there. just not enabled or used. | 18:37 |
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| macmaN | mkay. | 18:53 |
| macmaN | incomprehensible really. i consider the phone as a product market-ready starting from your rotation patch. | 18:53 |
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| Lava_Croft | i dont really care about rotation at all, since i use it in landscape mode about 99% of the time | 18:54 |
| Lava_Croft | it does not really matter that much for the n900, imo | 18:54 |
| macmaN | sorry i begs to disagree | 18:55 |
| macmaN | on numerous occasions i find portrait view much better especially long views of data | 18:55 |
| macmaN | contacts, tomboy | 18:55 |
| lcuk | macmaN, portrait by default has problems since: phone is able to stand up in landscape, phone cannot have a "dock" to charge when in portrait (usb on wrong side) | 18:55 |
| macmaN | articles | 18:55 |
| macmaN | lcuk: yeah, my consideration is just software-related | 18:56 |
| lcuk | macmaN, well Nokias consideration was complete package | 18:57 |
| lcuk | now in the community, such things can be tried much easier | 18:57 |
| lcuk | hence it taking minor patches from good folks like thp :) | 18:57 |
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| MohammadAG | I wonder if we could get 4-way rotation | 19:20 |
| thp | MohammadAG: you just have to make hildon-desktop rotate everything by a different angle | 19:26 |
| MohammadAG | thp, keep in mind X is rotating | 19:26 |
| MohammadAG | rotating hildon-desktop by an angle is easy | 19:27 |
| thp | oh yeah. but if you rotate around Z then it works ;) | 19:27 |
| MohammadAG | thp, and X's pointer? | 19:28 |
| thp | oh, that :p | 19:48 |
| thp | i thought of that "X" as in "rotation around the X axis | 19:48 |
| thp | X11 you mea | 19:48 |
| thp | n | 19:48 |
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| MohammadAG | thp, yeah :) | 20:13 |
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| ThreeM | hi there | 20:57 |
| ThreeM | is it known that camera app is broken since ssu? | 20:57 |
| MohammadAG | check fcamera | 20:57 |
| ThreeM | taking photos work well, video semms broken | 20:57 |
| MohammadAG | the SSU doesn't touch the camera | 20:57 |
| ThreeM | hmm im not so skilled, how do i check fcamera? any logs? | 20:59 |
| BCMM | ThreeM: do you have the FCam drivers? | 20:59 |
| ThreeM | good question :) can i get it from maemo repositry with ham? | 21:00 |
| ThreeM | a ok i see | 21:01 |
| ThreeM | when im at home im investigate. thx for the hint | 21:01 |
| ThreeM | i have i installed | 21:05 |
| Sc0rpius | broken how? | 21:08 |
| Sc0rpius | my camera still works fine | 21:09 |
| ThreeM | is there any logs where the cam application will log errors? | 21:09 |
| ThreeM | Sc0rpius: its just die video mode. taking pictures work well | 21:10 |
| MohammadAG | I had that once | 21:10 |
| ThreeM | but first i spend more time in troubleshooting, t | 21:10 |
| MohammadAG | (it wasn't related to the CSSU) | 21:10 |
| MohammadAG | the CSSU was actually non-existent | 21:11 |
| ThreeM | remove fcam drivers is a good way to prevent it? | 21:11 |
| ThreeM | sorry for offtopic | 21:11 |
| MohammadAG | I can't remember tbh | 21:11 |
| MohammadAG | and no worrie | 21:11 |
| MohammadAG | s | 21:11 |
| MohammadAG | though I think I f'd up gstreamer back then | 21:11 |
| MohammadAG | oh right | 21:11 |
| MohammadAG | what does "start pulseaudio" in terminal show? | 21:12 |
| MohammadAG | (as root) | 21:12 |
| Sc0rpius | video mode seems fine too just checked | 21:12 |
| MohammadAG | if pulseaudio isn't started when video mode kicks in, the camera returns "Operation failed" and segfaults | 21:12 |
| ThreeM | job not changed | 21:12 |
| MohammadAG | or exits, whatever | 21:12 |
| MohammadAG | hmm | 21:12 |
| ThreeM | bbl | 21:15 |
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| ThreeM | so now at home | 21:41 |
| ThreeM | removing the fcam drivers will not work, camera app is still crashing when i try to make video | 21:41 |
| MohammadAG | assuming you rebooted after removing the drivers? | 21:45 |
| ThreeM | yep | 21:45 |
| ThreeM | after reboot the video funktion will start working and crash after sekonds without any error messages | 21:45 |
| ThreeM | and another, cssu related bug | 21:46 |
| MohammadAG | it's not related to the CSSU | 21:46 |
| ThreeM | MohammadAG you have tried to fix the "manage desktops" with hardcoded it or? | 21:47 |
| MohammadAG | it's fixed already | 21:47 |
| ThreeM | not here :) | 21:47 |
| MohammadAG | theme customizer? | 21:47 |
| ThreeM | it works a while, after i add desktops, and remove them, again i cannot use the function | 21:47 |
| aki-- | speaking of desktops, is the 3x3 grid of desktops that was mentioned in cssu thread on tmo feasible? | 21:48 |
| ThreeM | yes | 21:48 |
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| MohammadAG | aki--, not easily | 21:48 |
| MohammadAG | ThreeM, upgrade theme customizer then apt-get --reinstall install hildon-home | 21:48 |
| ThreeM | thx | 21:48 |
| ThreeM | i give it a try :) | 21:49 |
| ThreeM | works perfect | 21:54 |
| ThreeM | thx | 21:54 |
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| macmaN | evening guys | 23:40 |
| macmaN | could someone advise me me on the following | 23:41 |
| macmaN | do you use wifi switcher? in my experience unloading the kernel module prolongs battery life significantly | 23:41 |
| macmaN | yet there's not integrated way to load/unload it with no extra user operation, right now you still have to manually switch in the status bar | 23:42 |
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| macmaN | or status menu | 23:42 |
| macmaN | is it possible to include kernel module (un-)loading into standard wifi on/off operations? | 23:42 |
| macmaN | or is there something im missing here | 23:43 |
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