IRC log of #maemo-ssu for Thursday, 2011-03-03

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JaffaScreenshots of my best relayout for desktops. I think a second user-configurable layout for portrait will be essential, but this seems to give a good starting point for my desktops: http://bleb.org/software/maemo/View1.png -> http://bleb.org/software/maemo/View1-portrait.png, http://bleb.org/software/maemo/View2.png -> http://bleb.org/software/maemo/View2-portrait.png and, finally, http://bleb.org/software/maemo/View3.png -> http://bleb.org/software/maemo00:51
lcukJaffa, can you make your app generate before/after images01:06
lcukthe first ones you showed the other day were easier to see the before/after01:06
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Sc0rpiuslast line was cropped but I can figure out the rest01:08
lcukJaffa, what is wrong with maintaining the position of all that fit01:09
lcukand just rot9001:09
lcukthose that do not fit, use the same function as setting down the black ball on a snooker table01:09
lcukie, closest to the spot01:10
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adalalhi06:05
adalalanyone here know how if it's possible to add APNs by modifying the /etc/operator_settings file?06:06
adalali'm aware it's possible using gconf and fAPN06:06
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Jaffalcuk: That is before/after images. It takes a layout, generates the PNG of its current position and then reorganises it.08:17
Jaffalcuk: It's easy to say "closest to the spot" but it's a proper Hard algorithm (NP complete)08:18
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Jaffalcuk: Although a quick swap works reasonably well in my layouts for getting a starting point.08:46
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meceJaffa, ello09:51
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AsiQueLava_Croft : hey wile i was looking at the logs i saw u asked me about Tremulous, didn't know it before... is it any good?10:12
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JaffaMorning, all10:58
JaffaSc0rpius: ping10:59
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merlin_N900morning :)11:29
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merlin_N900morning venemo11:38
Venemo_N900hello merlin_N90011:42
meceJaffa, \o11:43
meceJaffa, I meant to ask you about something, but I've forgotten... umm.11:43
meceJaffa, oh right. regarding the desktop item rearranging algorithms11:43
Jaffamece: Yup.11:45
Jaffamece: Next thought is an x/y cross, but taking into account heights of items and slightly different thing.11:45
JaffaEither way, definitely going to need to support a different layout configurable by the user after a best guess.11:45
meceJaffa, ok, so on first time rotation it would arrange according to algorithm, and if desktop is modified in portrait, that status is stored, and the next time after that the algorithm is disregarded (unless there's a new item)11:48
Jaffamece: Something like that, yes. I haven't looked at how the existing code decides where to put new items; that could be useful.11:52
Venemo_N900Jaffa: I'd say let's store separate positions for portrait and landscape11:55
meceVenemo_N900, that's what I meant11:56
Venemo_N900agreed with mece11:56
mecewhat about rotation of items that area wider than 480px?11:57
Venemo_N900mece: resize?11:57
meceVenemo_N900, might not be possible, that would depend on the implementation.11:57
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meceI have one view with just two widgets, one 800px and one 750px wide :)11:59
meceI'd say leave unrotated, but that's just me.11:59
JaffaVenemo_N900: That's what I said as well, isn't it?11:59
mecebut damn11:59
mecelol11:59
Venemo_N900mece: it's possible, just the app maybe isn't designed to handle resize event11:59
Venemo_N900mece: what are those wide widgets?11:59
Jaffamece: That's not a problem (wider than 480px): because the start position won't be.11:59
meceif something is 800 px, it still wouldn't fit11:59
meceVenemo_N900, comic widget and this dock bar or whatever it's called. a bunch of small shortcuts12:00
JaffaYes, so you can't see all of it. But you can remove/re-add/resize as appropriate.12:00
Venemo_N900mhm12:00
Venemo_N900let's contact the authors of these12:00
meceI'm the author of comic widget. It's not in extras though12:01
mece(it is in devel)12:01
Venemo_N900mece: please make your widget aware of resize events then12:01
meceVenemo_N900, I don't have time or energy. What's a resize event anyway, how does it work?12:02
Venemo_N900mece: is your app qt or gtk?12:02
mecegtk12:02
mecepygtk12:02
Venemo_N900well anyway. x will send a resize event for your window for which I'm sure there is a gtk event to handle12:03
mecewell if it simply resizes the main widget, it should work.12:03
Venemo_N900basically, x tells you the new size, and you should relayout according to it12:03
meceis there a way to test this?12:03
meceVenemo_N900, the widget is resizable by user12:04
Venemo_N900if cssu merger in the resizeable homescreen applets feature from cordia, then there will be12:04
Venemo_N900merges in *12:04
meceVenemo_N900, by modifying a text file and restarting12:04
Venemo_N900mece, that's nice12:05
meceVenemo_N900, problem is though, that it reads an image, resizes it according to some values and displays it. A resize event would require it to read image again, resize according to new values and display.12:06
Venemo_N900or store the image in memory and resize it on resize event12:07
Venemo_N900I'm sure gtk can do it12:07
meceVenemo_N900, sure, but I don't really want to go into that piece of shit spaghetti monster of code12:08
adalalanyone here know how if it's possible to add APNs by modifying the /etc/operator_settings file?12:09
adalali'm aware it's possible using gconf and fAPN12:09
meceI'd say if something doesn't resize properly, just rotate and clip it where you want it to end.12:10
Venemo_N900adalal: this is offtopic on this channel12:10
Venemo_N900mece: that's what happens when the app doesn't react to resize12:10
meceVenemo_N900, good. Then I'll just leave it. if it resizes to 480px wide it's usually too small to read anyway.12:12
Venemo_N900mhm12:12
adalaloh okay then.. sorz12:12
Venemo_N900adalal: ask on #maemo12:13
AsiQuewhere can i find scratchbox's sources list... i son't have an /scratchbox/etc/apt/sources file...12:21
AsiQue*don't12:21
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Venemo_N900AsiQue: this is offtopic here12:22
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AsiQueVenemo_N900: even when trying to compile ssu-hildon-desktop :-)12:23
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Venemo_N900AsiQue: run /scratchbox/login12:23
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AsiQuetnx12:24
Venemo_N900AsiQue: then inside the scratchbox environment, it'll be in12:24
Venemo_N900AsiQue: /etc/apt/sources.list12:24
Venemo_N900AsiQue: btw, rtfm12:24
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AsiQueVenemo_N900: rtfm?12:25
AsiQuemaemo12:25
AsiQueoops12:25
Venemo_N900AsiQue: rtfm = read the f*cking manual12:25
Venemo_N900AsiQue: scratchbox is well-documented12:25
Venemo_N900AsiQue: there's readme and stuff like that. it'll probably have the answers for your initial questios12:26
Venemo_N900AsiQue: if after looking through the readme you encounter errors, then feel free to ask12:26
AsiQuek :-)12:27
Venemo_N900AsiQue: one particular thing is that you must start scratchbox before logging in to it12:27
Venemo_N900run '/scratchbox/sbin/sbox_ctl start' as root12:28
AsiQuetnx12:28
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Venemo_N900then /scratchbox/login12:28
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Venemo_N900you can select the current  target from inside scratchbox12:29
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Venemo_N900sb-conf select ...12:29
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AsiQueVenemo_N900: tnx again... it helped :-) now going into reading mode... (of the manual :-))12:42
Venemo_N900AsiQue: okay12:42
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Venemo_N900AsiQue: :)12:43
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piggz_quick question...in the latest cssu...autorotaion on some apps doesnt seem to work anymore....feedingit for example, and my own qt app no longer rotates. Is this known?21:25
MohammadAGkilled hildon-desktop?21:29
MohammadAGreboot21:29
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piggz_MohammadAG: my phone has certianly been rebooted since the last install which was some days ago21:33
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piggz_MohammadAG: opera rotates, but feeding it doesnt21:36
piggz_(it is set to auto rotate ;)21:36
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piggz_MohammadAG: seems you were right...a killall hildon-desktop made my phone reboot anyway (?) ... and now rotation works again...what would cause that?21:47
merlin1991piggz_, if hildon-desktop crashes twice (or get's kill alled twice) the phone reboots due to watchdog21:49
piggz_merlin1991: fair enough...uptime ruined ;)21:50
merlin1991ever since I started testing the various cssu stuff I went from 20 days min to 5 days max uptime xD21:50
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