| RzR | just in case there an other one from council | 00:00 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | there's no limit to the number of co-GC. Just consider that x-fade has to "check" every single one | 00:00 |
| RzR | in case of flamewars with gruppy concillors :) | 00:00 |
| RzR | but I hope this will not happend | 00:00 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | this never happened on a IRC level so far | 00:01 |
| RzR | or many other councilor irc junky what to represent council on freenode ? | 00:01 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | (co-)GC is a strictly admistrative/office duty with no real power or decisions to be made | 00:01 |
| RzR | well let me make a draft and present member will approve | 00:02 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | it's a very boring stewardship | 00:02 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | and usually all you got to do is changing cloaks twice a year | 00:03 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | for all the rest you got chanops who do the daily business | 00:03 |
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| RzR | and answer emails once a new CG should be set :) | 00:04 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | GC doesn't own or decide anything | 00:04 |
| juiceme | okay.. you'll have to excuse me now | 00:07 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | me too | 00:07 |
| juiceme | l8er! | 00:07 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | o/ juiceme | 00:07 |
| Win7Mac | bye | 00:07 |
| peterleinchen_ | night | 00:08 |
| RzR | so everyone ok with http://wiki.maemo.org/Task:Community_Council/Council_Q2_2014/Agenda#2014-08-26 | 00:08 |
| RzR | the draft I am about to send and remove from wiki ? | 00:08 |
| RzR | juiceme, gone ? | 00:09 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | what is this? | 00:09 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | aaah | 00:09 |
| RzR | the draft letter I am about to send to xfade | 00:09 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | may I edit that? | 00:10 |
| RzR | sure | 00:10 |
| RzR | that's why I put it there | 00:10 |
| Win7Mac | please send to GeneralAntilles so that he can send to xfade please | 00:11 |
| Win7Mac | since he managed to catch his attention... | 00:12 |
| RzR | xface as to: or cc: ? | 00:12 |
| RzR | xfade | 00:13 |
| RzR | or none | 00:13 |
| peterleinchen_ | not a t all | 00:13 |
| RzR | ok | 00:13 |
| Win7Mac | to GeneralAntilles only | 00:13 |
| peterleinchen_ | let GenAnt rewrite it and present him the technical stuff needed | 00:13 |
| RzR | it could be counter intuitive right | 00:13 |
| RzR | ok this is a very diplomatic job | 00:13 |
| Win7Mac | peterleinchen_, exactly | 00:13 |
| peterleinchen_ | put CC/Board on CC when sending to GenAnt | 00:14 |
| Win7Mac | please CC boardathildonfoundation.org | 00:14 |
| Win7Mac | ;) | 00:14 |
| RzR | just under barak obama | 00:14 |
| Win7Mac | lol | 00:15 |
| RzR | ;) | 00:15 |
| RzR | DocScrutinizer05, are you still editing the page | 00:17 |
| RzR | ? | 00:17 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | yes, mompls | 00:17 |
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| RzR | hi lbt | 00:18 |
| RzR | thanks for coming here | 00:18 |
| lbt | hey ... been out :) | 00:19 |
| RzR | tango time ? | 00:19 |
| lbt | *g* not tonight for once | 00:19 |
| RzR | anyway we managed to get feedback from xfade | 00:19 |
| lbt | oh hell - good, I forgot | 00:19 |
| RzR | yea that's why I invited you | 00:19 |
| RzR | since we were talking about contacting him | 00:20 |
| RzR | and Win7Mac fwded us an email from him | 00:20 |
| RzR | so your help is not needed anymore | 00:20 |
| RzR | but we can also talk about something else while you're here | 00:20 |
| lbt | glad it's sorted | 00:20 |
| peterleinchen_ | erm, its not yet sorted | 00:21 |
| RzR | like how can jolla and maemo interact nowdays | 00:21 |
| peterleinchen_ | but we hope to get it done soon :) | 00:21 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | http://wiki.maemo.org/Task:Community_Council/Council_Q2_2014/Agenda#2014-08-26 see | 00:21 |
| RzR | peterleinchen_, let's pray that the way to contact him was the harder part | 00:21 |
| RzR | DocScrutinizer05, ok let me shoot this | 00:22 |
| peterleinchen_ | RzR: yeah | 00:22 |
| peterleinchen_ | shouldnt we remove the links to logs? | 00:23 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | why? | 00:23 |
| RzR | that would be unfair :) | 00:23 |
| RzR | it did happened ! | 00:23 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ooh wait | 00:23 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | a minute | 00:23 |
| peterleinchen_ | just thought it would be boring to read (take too much time) | 00:23 |
| RzR | this is not facebook here ;) | 00:23 |
| * lbt waves :) | 00:24 | |
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| RzR | peterleinchen_, and if you care about the reader , put some joke to make it less boring ;) | 00:24 |
| peterleinchen_ | LOL | 00:24 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | done | 00:25 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | RzR: please refresh http://wiki.maemo.org/Task:Community_Council/Council_Q2_2014/Agenda#2014-08-26 | 00:25 |
| RzR | I already cut that text | 00:26 |
| RzR | DocScrutinizer05, do you know an URL of the procedure | 00:27 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | It has some minor improvement explaining that it needs xfade to send a mail to accomplish that co-GC thing | 00:27 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | lemme see | 00:27 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | mompls | 00:27 |
| RzR | ... We need you to send some mail to freenode, asking for some | 00:27 |
| RzR | I have this | 00:27 |
| Win7Mac | keep inmind that http://wiki.maemo.org/Task:Community_Council/Council_Q2_2014/Agenda#2014-08-26 | 00:27 |
| Win7Mac | this keyboard sucks... | 00:28 |
| Win7Mac | please keep in mind that GenAnt willsend this to xfade | 00:28 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | https://freenode.net/group_registration.shtml | 00:29 |
| RzR | do you use GPG keys ? | 00:29 |
| Win7Mac | yes | 00:29 |
| Win7Mac | for signature mainly | 00:30 |
| RzR | yes could be good to mention those somewhere | 00:30 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | RzR: you're perfectly fine to send this directly to x-fade, CC GeneralAntilles | 00:30 |
| RzR | well let's contact genant 1st | 00:30 |
| RzR | I'll fwd to x-fade if no feedback | 00:30 |
| peterleinchen_ | good! | 00:31 |
| Win7Mac | good idea | 00:31 |
| RzR | but I am sure GenAnt is the good entry point | 00:31 |
| RzR | and the only one | 00:31 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | it's meant / worded like a mail from council to xfade, no? | 00:31 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | whatever, I don't care how you do it as long as it rwaches x-fade | 00:31 |
| RzR | it's sent | 00:32 |
| peterleinchen_ | RzR: of course put a few words to GenAnt | 00:32 |
| * peterleinchen_ was too late | 00:32 | |
| DocScrutinizer05 | also you prolly should have put council@m.o. into CC | 00:32 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | hah, you did :-) | 00:33 |
| RzR | yea | 00:33 |
| RzR | may you win7mac add those missing words from GenAnt since you were the one that got that email 1st | 00:33 |
| RzR | that <pre> is lame :0 | 00:34 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | >>The secondary contact. Secondary (or approved) contacts are appointed by the primary contact. A secondary contact may be assigned limited access and/or privileges. They need no special level of authority; delegate whatever level of authority seems appropriate. We won't expect them to make policy decisions, just to find out the answers to any questions that are raised.<< | 00:34 |
| Win7Mac | RzR, i got that mail because board was CC'ed... | 00:35 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ...like handling cloaks | 00:35 |
| peterleinchen_ | Win/Mac: please do so ... (put a few words around that) | 00:35 |
| peterleinchen_ | to GenAnt | 00:36 |
| Win7Mac | don't be so formal with GA... | 00:36 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | he's a HiFo member like some others, and an ex council member, and also the master of #maemo now ;-) | 00:37 |
| RzR | I added the words for GA | 00:37 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | so formal is not needed. But be kind with hin ;-P | 00:38 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | him* | 00:38 |
| Win7Mac | that is a very well written mail, RzR :) | 00:39 |
| RzR | really ? | 00:39 |
| RzR | I am not that good in English | 00:39 |
| RzR | nor in French | 00:39 |
| peterleinchen_ | perfetto | 00:40 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | incredible we got this age old frozen issue moving. Finally!! | 00:40 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | \o/ | 00:41 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | feels like already sorted | 00:41 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | and these be my famous last words for this meeting | 00:41 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | o/ | 00:42 |
| peterleinchen_ | bye doc | 00:42 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | cya folks | 00:42 |
| peterleinchen_ | and let me say good night, too | 00:42 |
| Win7Mac | good nite o/ | 00:42 |
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| RzR | ok byebye | 00:43 |
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| RzR | I'll try to update wiki before next meeting | 00:43 |
| RzR | so let me close the door and switch the light off | 00:48 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | on a last remark: since freenode *official* GC procedure is dysfunct as explained in top of https://freenode.net/group_registration.shtml, I had a lot of talks to freenode staff to finally come up with this solution how to handle the whole issue. The sending of a mail - preferably by primary GC (xfade) - to freenode staff been what freenode admins (/stats -p) suggested to me | 01:02 |
| RzR | it wont appear in the log | 01:03 |
| RzR | let me cut and paste for next meeting | 01:03 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | it probably will help A LOT when in parallel, x-fade contacts one of freenode staff on IRC (channel #freenode) and asks if this mail actually made it to the right destination | 01:03 |
| RzR | I let you contact GenAnt once he reply us ok ? | 01:05 |
| RzR | I am gone now | 01:05 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | sure thing | 01:05 |
| RzR | ok good nite you need to rest if you have an headache | 01:05 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ibuprofen works :-) | 01:05 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | but I need dinner now | 01:06 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | >>Group registration provides: ... Group hostname cloaks. Cloaks allow your project or organization to grant official recognition to project participants. Your group contact maintains this cloak list. << | 01:20 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | just in case you wonder: Mickey is openmoko GC | 01:25 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | and that GC stuff is again not politics ;-) | 01:27 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | though it's close | 01:27 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | oops, ECHAN | 01:28 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | sorry | 01:28 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | [2014-08-27 Wed 00:54:21] <DocScrutinizer05> @staff: which is the right email *freenode.? address for a GC to send a request for creating secondary GCs? | 01:55 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | [2014-08-27 Wed 00:54:34] <thumbs> DocScrutinizer05: groups@freenode.net | 01:55 |
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