| DocScrutinizer51 | Pali: yup | 00:10 |
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| Wizzup | Does anyone know if ofono needs to be configured in any way to pick up the nokia modem? | 00:16 |
| Wizzup | isimodem is turned on, but it doesn't seem to detect any modems. | 00:16 |
| bencoh | Wizzup: you should try a search in chan logs, because I kinda remember a discussion about that | 00:17 |
| Pali | Wizzup: ask pavelm, he has working voice call support on upstream kernel + Debian | 00:17 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | http://paste.opensuse.org/9220895 | 00:18 |
| Wizzup | Is he on IRC? | 00:18 |
| Wizzup | I know his blog | 00:18 |
| Pali | ~seen pavelm | 00:18 |
| infobot | pavelm <~pavel@217-112-171-13.adsl.avonet.cz> was last seen on IRC in channel #maemo, 525d 11h 44m 3s ago, saying: 'Hello!'. | 00:18 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | [2016-04-06 Wed 18:32:15] <DocScrutinizer05> flasher-3.5 -b="`ssh root@iron900 cat /proc/cmdline` log_buf_len=64K" | 00:19 |
| Pali | not on irc yet... | 00:19 |
| Pali | rather send him email | 00:19 |
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| Wizzup | ack | 00:19 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | Wizzup: definitely you need N900 specific ofono stuff | 00:24 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | exactly what I found a bug inside and you said you gonna build it | 00:25 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | it's about enabling the modem | 00:25 |
| Wizzup | I emailed pavel | 00:26 |
| Wizzup | DocScrutinizer05: sure, but it doesn't even seem to detect a modem | 00:26 |
| Wizzup | I don't see it writing "failed to initialise bla" | 00:26 |
| Wizzup | It only really registers drivers/plugins and then just does nothing | 00:26 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | you could put some debug-print into the very file at http://git.kernel.org/cgit/network/ofono/ofono.git/tree/plugins/nokia-gpio.c | 00:26 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | I guess you must tell ofono to power up the modem? | 00:27 |
| Wizzup | There is a way to do that. But it must first *FIND* the modem | 00:27 |
| Wizzup | If it cannot find it, you cannot power it up/down | 00:27 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | you can't find a modem that's not powered up | 00:27 |
| Wizzup | At least that is what I gathered from various mails/doc | 00:27 |
| Wizzup | I think you can find the kernel driver and devices | 00:28 |
| Wizzup | Which is what I call 'finding the modem' | 00:28 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | yes, of course | 00:28 |
| Wizzup | Anyhow ofono requires a modem identifier to power it up | 00:28 |
| Wizzup | so it must detect it before being able to power it up | 00:28 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | hmm you need to provide that identifier somehow | 00:28 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | the hardware doesn't know until modem is powered | 00:28 |
| Wizzup | I am pretty sure that I just misconfigured something, or perhaps my ofono version is not recent enough | 00:29 |
| robotanarchy_ | Wizzup: at least in debian, there are some ofono specific dbus rules in /var/lib/dbus or something (exact path is in the wiki article i made). do you have this file / did you try to modify it? | 00:29 |
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| Wizzup | robotanarchy_: udev or dbus | 00:29 |
| robotanarchy_ | udev | 00:30 |
| Wizzup | The udev rules are not relevant | 00:30 |
| Wizzup | for me at least | 00:30 |
| Wizzup | I have upnlink0, and phonet0 | 00:30 |
| Wizzup | The latter comes up only after successfully probing nokia-modem | 00:30 |
| robotanarchy_ | okay, nice | 00:30 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | yes | 00:30 |
| Wizzup | And I do not have the rule that you mentioned | 00:30 |
| Wizzup | when I had that rule, I got phonet0 (upnlink0 renamed) and then the real deal became phonet1 | 00:30 |
| Wizzup | So likely you do not want that rule | 00:31 |
| robotanarchy_ | interesting, maybe I need to probe another module first | 00:31 |
| robotanarchy_ | I didn't know that there are two phonet devices | 00:31 |
| Wizzup | modprobe nokia-modem pm=0 | 00:31 |
| Wizzup | That worked for me | 00:31 |
| Wizzup | I don't know what upnlink0 is | 00:31 |
| Wizzup | but nokia-modem creates its own interface | 00:31 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | there are not supposed to be two phonet devices | 00:31 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | that's clearly indicating a problem | 00:31 |
| Wizzup | DocScrutinizer05: correct, but if you boot pali's kernel with default config you get upnlink0 as an interface | 00:32 |
| Wizzup | I don't know if it even is a phonet device | 00:32 |
| Wizzup | It's just that robotanarchy_ had a udev rule to rename it to phonet | 00:32 |
| Wizzup | and I am doubting that | 00:32 |
| Wizzup | (the use / correctness) | 00:32 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | yes | 00:32 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | see Pali's "either 1) OR 2)" | 00:33 |
| Wizzup | I think ofono should, when it works, create a gprs0 interface, and then I can configure that one using mostly normal scripts/tools | 00:33 |
| Wizzup | Yes, exactly | 00:33 |
| Pali | ofono should support both 1) and 2) so you can choose :-) | 00:33 |
| Pali | Maemo supports only gpio swicth | 00:33 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | yeah 1) **OR** 2) | 00:33 |
| Wizzup | Pali: just wondering (I just emailed pavel), when did you last get ofono to work? | 00:33 |
| Wizzup | And did you have any config files | 00:34 |
| Pali | pavelm has own GUI applications (written in python) for phone functionality | 00:34 |
| Pali | they are in his "tui" git repository | 00:34 |
| Pali | so maybe there would be also config files | 00:34 |
| robotanarchy_ | Pali: where is this repo (sorry, didn't read all the backlog) | 00:35 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ((if you boot pali's kernel with default config you get upnlink0)) is prolly a good hint | 00:35 |
| Pali | robotanarchy_: I think on gitlab, but not know exactly.... | 00:36 |
| Wizzup | DocScrutinizer05: a hint for what? | 00:36 |
| Wizzup | I figured that upnlink0 is a completely seperate thing, likely unrelated to anything | 00:36 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | for a driver conflict or something | 00:36 |
| Wizzup | brb | 00:36 |
| Pali | upnlink is probably not phonet device | 00:36 |
| Pali | check inet type of device | 00:36 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | aah ok | 00:36 |
| robotanarchy_ | Pali: "ip a" said something about phonet | 00:37 |
| Pali | look at "ip l" | 00:37 |
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| bencoh | I guess you mean that one: https://gitlab.com/tui/tui/blob/master/ofone/ofono.py | 00:38 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ofone??? | 00:38 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | funny - typo? | 00:39 |
| Pali | I think it is not typo | 00:39 |
| bencoh | prolly not | 00:39 |
| bencoh | he's got a lot of phone-related scripts in there (not all ofono-based) | 00:40 |
| Pali | "phone" you read as "fone" | 00:40 |
| Pali | and "o" prefix can be for ofono | 00:40 |
| Pali | :D | 00:40 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | yay, nidty ;-P | 00:40 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | nifty even | 00:40 |
| bencoh | :] | 00:40 |
| robotanarchy_ | 'ip l' says: 2: upnlink0: <POINTOPOINT,NOARP> mtu 65541 qdisc noop state DOWN mode DEFAULT group default qlen 1 \n link/phonet 1b peer 00 | 00:43 |
| robotanarchy_ | and modprobe nokia-modem prints errors in dmesg: https://nopaste.me/view/b960292a | 00:46 |
| Wizzup | did you see what I wrote | 00:46 |
| robotanarchy_ | Wizzup: what exactly? you wrote a lot :D | 00:46 |
| Pali | 1) XOR 2) | 00:46 |
| Wizzup | 23:31 < Wizzup> modprobe nokia-modem pm=0 | 00:46 |
| robotanarchy_ | oh right | 00:47 |
| robotanarchy_ | well too bad I gotta go now. but thanks to everyone in the channel, I'll keep on trying until it works ;) | 00:48 |
| bencoh | thx for your efforts on that :) | 00:48 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | meanwhile: https://i.imgur.com/Se4oxY3.jpg | 00:50 |
| robotanarchy_ | everyone is welcome to contribute here: https://github.com/robotanarchy/penguinphone/wiki/N900:-Running-ofono-with-a-4.x-kernel (or in the maemo wiki or wherever you prefer) | 00:51 |
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| Pali | robotanarchy_: if you use gpio switch there is not /dev/cmt gpios! | 00:55 |
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| bencoh | :) | 00:55 |
| Pali | as I stated more times, 1) gpio switch with nokia-modem.pm=0 XOR 2) recompiling linux-n900 kernel without gpioswitch && gpio from nokia-modem | 00:56 |
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| Wizzup | robotanarchy_: can you pm me your email addr? so I can cc you in this email | 01:03 |
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| Wizzup | robotanarchy_: success | 02:31 |
| Wizzup | robotanarchy_: gprs0 works for me - I just didn't have the udev rules for ofono installed. | 02:42 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | \o/ | 02:45 |
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| Church- | Evening | 02:53 |
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| Oksana | Interesting question: in Modest, how do I persuade it to treat GMail Drafts as Drafts, something to be edited and sent, not just admired like some folder with letters? How to sync Modest-Drafts with GMail-Drafts?.. | 09:23 |
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| drathir | mornin/evenin... | 16:08 |
| drathir | there is any way of exclude dirs from media tracking? | 16:09 |
| * drathir have navigation and all voices are included in media dir too... | 16:09 | |
| drathir | media directory mean open media play... | 16:11 |
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| Sicelo | drathir: edit /home/user/.config/tracker/tracker.cfg | 17:13 |
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| Vajb | drathir: or use trackerctrl program | 20:14 |
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| Vajb | tracker cfg actually | 20:15 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | and update tracker, it has abug in stock, afaik fixed in CSSU | 20:33 |
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| drathir | Vajb: i will check it too, thanks... | 21:10 |
| drathir | btw what is order of rules? | 21:11 |
| drathir | if i do dont track /;$HOME/; and add track dirs will workin? | 21:12 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | https://wiki.gnome.org/action/show/Projects/Tracker?action=show&redirect=Tracker | 22:11 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | https://wiki.gnome.org/Projects/Tracker/Documentation | 22:12 |
| * DocScrutinizer05 pukes violently, seeing how gnome crap constantly changes and evolves into directions that feel totally insane | 22:15 | |
| DocScrutinizer05 | >>Tracker uses GSettings for configuration (since 0.12), you can tell Tracker to use the old method of configuration files with environment variables. In the case of configuration files, the configuration is kept in $XDG_CONFIG_HOME/tracker (usually $HOME/.config/tracker).<< gsettings??! WTF? wasn't that gconftool? And good luck with the obviously obsolete config file, it's prolly not documented anymore | 22:16 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | when I read "NEPOMUK" I get a murderous frenzy | 22:17 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | guess which process constantly eats >5 GIGAbytes of my RAM >:-( | 22:18 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | >>Memory allocator watchdog - osso_mem_saw_enable(): Nokia implemented this to make sure processes didn't accidentally try to allocate too much memory. Tracker used it at some time or another, but no longer.<< ROTFL | 22:20 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | YEAH HOW SANE¡¡¡ >>Memory allocator limitation - setrlimit(): Tracker currently has a function called tracker_memory_setrlimits() which sets the limitation of RLIMIT_AS and RLIMIT_DATA clamping it between 50% of total memory and MAXLONG (2GB on 32-bit) as an upper limit. << | 22:21 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | 50% of memory? WHAT THE FUCKING HELL SUCKER?! | 22:22 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ~tracker | 22:23 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | mhm | 22:23 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ~botsnack | 22:23 |
| infobot | DocScrutinizer05: :) | 22:23 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ~tracker is <reply> >>Tracker currently has a function called tracker_memory_setrlimits() which sets the limitation of RLIMIT_AS and RLIMIT_DATA clamping it between 50% of total memory and MAXLONG (2GB on 32-bit) as an upper limit. << 50% of memory? WHAT THE FUCKING HELL SUCKER?! | 22:25 |
| infobot | DocScrutinizer05: please, watch your language. | 22:25 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ~useless | 22:25 |
| * infobot starts crying and hides from docscrutinizer05 in the darkest corner of the room. :( | 22:25 | |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ~tracker is <reply> >>Tracker currently has a function called tracker_memory_setrlimits() which sets the limitation of RLIMIT_AS and RLIMIT_DATA clamping it between 50% of total memory and MAXLONG (2GB on 32-bit) as an upper limit. << 50% of memory? WHAT THE F*CKING HELL SUCKER?! | 22:25 |
| infobot | okay, DocScrutinizer05 | 22:25 |
| kerio | DocScrutinizer05: to be fair, 50% of all memory is only 128mb | 22:27 |
| kerio | i'm pretty sure that my irc client right now is using waaaaaaaaaay more than that | 22:28 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | maybe on your flimsy system. on my system it's at least 4GB, and since >>between 50% of total memory and MAXLONG<< it's prolly unlimited on my 64bit system | 22:28 |
| kerio | yes, on my flimsy n900 | 22:28 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | also the question is if swap counts as "total memory" | 22:29 |
| kerio | on my lappy 50% would be 8gb | 22:30 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | and note that 50% is LOWER limit, upper limit is MAXLONG | 22:30 |
| kerio | ...what | 22:31 |
| kerio | it's forced to use more memory than it needs? :| | 22:31 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | lower limit of the range for upper limit | 22:31 |
| bencoh | :] | 22:32 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | upper limit of range for UPPERLIMIT aka RLIMIT_AS and RLIMIT_DATA is MAXLONG | 22:32 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | 2^64 on my PC | 22:32 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | https://wiki.gnome.org/Projects/Tracker/Documentation/Configuration | 22:34 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | GNOME | 22:34 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | starts with G | 22:34 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | >:-( | 22:34 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | let's face it: like all gnome stuff tracker was utterly useless and defective by design at time of its inception. and since it got much worse | 22:38 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | on a sidenote: my NEPOMUK RAMkiller process gets started by akonadi_nepomuk_feeder | 22:44 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | (KDE, Kmail) | 22:45 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | akonadi dwarfs systemd, feature creep wise and on bloatware contest | 22:45 |
| kerio | the fuck is nepomuk | 22:46 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | tracker's indexer aiui | 22:47 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | https://wiki.gnome.org/Projects/Tracker/Documentation/GettingStarted ^f "nepomuk" | 22:48 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | http://www.semanticdesktop.org/ontologies/ | 22:49 |
| kerio | what the FUCK | 22:49 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | http://nepomuk.semanticdesktop.org/ | 22:51 |
| kerio | that page would benefit from Sans Bullshit Sans | 22:51 |
| kerio | http://www.sansbullshitsans.com | 22:52 |
| kerio | http://i.imgur.com/U6CXkZJ.png | 22:53 |
| robotanarchy | Pali: thanks for clarifying! Wizzup: great news! | 22:54 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | kerio: HEHE full ack | 22:55 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | thanks for the useful URL | 22:56 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | already bookmarked it | 22:56 |
| kerio | that's an amazing font | 22:57 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | yes | 22:57 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | ~tracker | 23:03 |
| infobot | >>Tracker currently has a function called tracker_memory_setrlimits() which sets the limitation of RLIMIT_AS and RLIMIT_DATA clamping it between 50% of total memory and MAXLONG (2GB on 32-bit) as an upper limit. << 50% of memory? WHAT THE F*CKING HELL SUCKER?! | 23:03 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | http://nepomuk.semanticdesktop.org/Project+Objectives.html BS bingo at its finest | 23:08 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | >>It will be Social since it will support the interconnection and exchange with other desktops and their users.<< who would want THAT?? | 23:09 |
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| bencoh | you're just hurting yourself :) | 23:13 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | really? don't think so. Rather I'd hurt myself when allowing my desktop to connect to other desktops.. related: http://www.songtexte.com/songtext/spliff/computer-sind-doof-2bd810f6.html https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kYeDXp3Q0HE | 23:16 |
| kerio | ayy desktop linux lmao | 23:17 |
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| freemangordon | any clue what pnatd is? | 23:20 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | really now? | 23:20 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | pnatd is an interpreter translating AT commands into ISI | 23:21 |
| freemangordon | ok, why it opens ttyGSn | 23:21 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | it's used for BT tethering | 23:21 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | maybe also USB tethering | 23:22 |
| freemangordon | ttyGSn are serial-over-usb ports | 23:22 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | users can communicate to modem via ponatd, though it's not really designed for that purpose | 23:22 |
| freemangordon | what has pnad in common with that? | 23:22 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | USB--<serial>-["AT command"]--> ISI --<phonet>--> Modem | 23:25 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | oops | 23:25 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | USB--<serial>-["AT command"]--> Pnatd --<phonet>-[ISI]--> Modem | 23:25 |
| freemangordon | hmm | 23:26 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | USB<--<serial>-["AT reply"]-- Pnatd <--<phonet>-[ISI]-- Modem | 23:27 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | pnatd AT cmdset implementation is not comprehensive | 23:28 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | it basically just implements what's needed to tether the modem functionality to e.g. laptop | 23:29 |
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| freemangordon | ok | 23:31 |
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| freemangordon | Pali: pnatd opening /dev/ttyGSn devices is the next reason why reboot/powerdown does not work in mainline :( | 23:32 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ouch | 23:32 |
| Pali | hm? | 23:32 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | should only do that in PC mode | 23:32 |
| Pali | why it reboot does not work?? | 23:33 |
| Pali | before kernel reboot, it kills all userspace processes | 23:33 |
| Pali | so that device is closed before reboot | 23:33 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | yep, that's what I'd think too | 23:33 |
| Pali | and if reboot does not work, then bug is in kernel | 23:33 |
| Pali | not in userspace | 23:33 |
| freemangordon | because it hangs waiting for nokia_unbind to " usb_put_function_instance(fi_acm);", which never returns as close() is not called for ttyGSn devices | 23:34 |
| freemangordon | I am not saying that the problem is in the userspace :) | 23:35 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | just a completely stupid sidenote: you didn't forget that the hardware powers up and boots whenever there is VBUS attached, e.g. from a host PC? | 23:35 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | shouldn't *all* filehandles of a process getting handed over to kernel and get closed, on process termination? | 23:39 |
| freemangordon | I was expecting the same, but... | 23:40 |
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| freemangordon | Pali: yep, looks like a bug in the kernel, however, I don;t have serial to capture logs on reboot | 23:51 |
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| * stryngs is sure glad you smart folks keep the n900 movin along =) | 23:55 | |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | freemangordon: did you check how to configure the TTL-232RG-VREG1V8-WE? I'm still afraid about some of the options it has | 23:57 |
| freemangordon | DocScrutinizer05: no, what bothers you? | 23:57 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | hmm, lemme see if I can find the backlog | 23:57 |
| Pali | freemangordon: you ask tmlind for help, he has that "special" n900-like device with serial | 23:58 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | [Wed 02 March 2016] [00:29:29] <DocScrutinizer05> freemangordon: could you look into the weird driver of the TTL-232RG-VREG1V8-WE and how to use it? it has several pretty unusual setting options | 23:58 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | [Wed 02 March 2016] [00:33:00] <DocScrutinizer05> http://www.ftdichip.com/Support/Documents/DataSheets/Cables/DS_TTL-232RG_CABLES.pdf | 23:58 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | [Wed 02 March 2016] [00:30:30] <DocScrutinizer05> unusual for a plain vanilla UART | 23:59 |
| freemangordon | DocScrutinizer05: ok, what in particular you think may bring problems? | 23:59 |
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