| M4rtinK | cp -r red orange | 00:00 |
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| M4rtinK | and a new orange theme shows up in Options | 00:00 |
| M4rtinK | BTW, I think the themes menu in Options should use a multiple item selector, not toggle | 00:01 |
| M4rtinK | https://github.com/M4rtinK/modrana/issues/90 :) | 00:02 |
| sixwheeledbeast | :) | 00:04 |
| M4rtinK | BTW, looking at the code you can already sorta do live editing | 00:04 |
| M4rtinK | it loads the theme config every time the theme is switched | 00:04 |
| M4rtinK | so if you edit it and switch to another theme and back the changes should show up at once | 00:05 |
| M4rtinK | no need to restart modRana | 00:05 |
| sixwheeledbeast | Well I hacked the theme and cp'ed the red and made an orange. Oh no restart :) | 00:05 |
| sixwheeledbeast | I suppose this will persist a package update? | 00:06 |
| M4rtinK | I think it should | 00:09 |
| M4rtinK | but keep a copy just in case :) | 00:09 |
| M4rtinK | or symlink it from a safe location :) | 00:09 |
| sixwheeledbeast | M4rtinK: I just spotted the bottom left box on the map window is non-themeable :) | 00:10 |
| M4rtinK | yep, that's another area in need of improvement | 00:10 |
| M4rtinK | and I'm sure there are more elements like this | 00:10 |
| M4rtinK | sixwheeledbeast: could you maybe note all such unthemable items somewhere ? | 00:11 |
| sixwheeledbeast | M4rtinK: I only found that one | 00:11 |
| sixwheeledbeast | but I will let you know :) | 00:12 |
| M4rtinK | I'll make an issue for that :) | 00:12 |
| sixwheeledbeast | Oh the zoom arrows too. | 00:12 |
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| sixwheeledbeast | M4rtinK: zoom arrows, search text. | 00:13 |
| M4rtinK | search text ? | 00:14 |
| sixwheeledbeast | make a search for a place and the text and point is "blue" | 00:14 |
| M4rtinK | oh, you mean the point markers | 00:15 |
| sixwheeledbeast | M4rtinK: yer but I realises the POI's are Green and the Search is Blue | 00:16 |
| M4rtinK | sure, but there should be separate options for POI & Green colors | 00:17 |
| M4rtinK | eh | 00:17 |
| M4rtinK | POI & search colors | 00:17 |
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| sixwheeledbeast | seperate options? | 00:18 |
| M4rtinK | that the theme should have separate color constants for search result points and POI points | 00:19 |
| M4rtinK | so that those two sorts could be themed separately | 00:20 |
| sixwheeledbeast | Ok, so that's another enhancement or available already? | 00:21 |
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| sixwheeledbeast | ah, issues/92 | 00:23 |
| M4rtinK | it should be relatively easy to fix once I know all the places where theming is not applied | 00:24 |
| sixwheeledbeast | Ok a few more things ... :) | 00:25 |
| sixwheeledbeast | Is it possible to display the current zoom level on the map GUI? | 00:25 |
| sixwheeledbeast | Take the desktop version for example there is no hildon banners to display the level, you have to check in downloads. | 00:26 |
| M4rtinK | good point! | 00:26 |
| sixwheeledbeast | I say desktop version but well I mean on a desktop. | 00:26 |
| M4rtinK | I think that desktop usage enhancements are quite important | 00:27 |
| M4rtinK | even though the UI is primarily optimized for touch usage | 00:27 |
| M4rtinK | it is still really handy to have modRana on desktop :) | 00:28 |
| sixwheeledbeast | M4rtinK: also the messages that do happen on the desktop hang around until you zoom in or out. | 00:28 |
| M4rtinK | I think the zoomlevel could be displayed on the scale indicator | 00:28 |
| M4rtinK | like "60 m (zl 15 | 00:29 |
| M4rtinK | ) | 00:29 |
| M4rtinK | which messages ? | 00:29 |
| sixwheeledbeast | "all search results cleared" for example. Yes I think Zoom Level can be (L15) adj the scale bar | 00:30 |
| sixwheeledbeast | Also these messages are not themed either ;) | 00:31 |
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| M4rtinK | oops :D | 00:31 |
| sixwheeledbeast | They don't appear on the N900 version AFAIK | 00:32 |
| sixwheeledbeast | No they are hildon banners there. | 00:33 |
| M4rtinK | modRana uses the system notifications | 00:33 |
| M4rtinK | on N900 | 00:33 |
| M4rtinK | yep | 00:33 |
| M4rtinK | those blue ones are built-in "fallback" ones | 00:33 |
| sixwheeledbeast | :nod: | 00:34 |
| M4rtinK | it might make sense to use a desktop notification API | 00:34 |
| M4rtinK | at least when the modRana window is out of focus | 00:34 |
| sixwheeledbeast | maybe, they are fine but annoying that you have to refresh the map to get rid. Glad the zoom level doesn't pop up too that would be awkward :D | 00:35 |
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| RiD | the SIM issue is starting to hunt my 2 N900s :( | 00:36 |
| sixwheeledbeast | RiD: paper in the battery tray trick? | 00:36 |
| RiD | one of them no longer accepts any SIM, always gives an error, the other one failed once, had to reboot | 00:36 |
| RiD | never tried the paper, but i did try bending the pins | 00:37 |
| M4rtinK | M4rtinK: yeah, that's N900 specific on purpose :) | 00:37 |
| M4rtinK | sixwheeledbeast: ^^ | 00:37 |
| M4rtinK | as the Hildon banners are less obtrusive | 00:37 |
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| sixwheeledbeast | RiD: If bending pins and paper in the tray fails you device is probably parts only I am afraid | 00:38 |
| M4rtinK | is also serves as feedback when using the vole keys for zooming | 00:38 |
| sixwheeledbeast | M4rtinK: :nod: | 00:38 |
| RiD | sigh | 00:38 |
| M4rtinK | *volume | 00:38 |
| RiD | guess I can use it as a hammer | 00:38 |
| RiD | (right now i'm using the SIM failed one as some sort of iPod) | 00:39 |
| sixwheeledbeast | RiD: neo900.org new motherboard eventually | 00:39 |
| RiD | too expensive, I have other priorities right now, so I'm sticking with my N900s as much as possible | 00:39 |
| bencoh | dont bend the pins :( | 00:39 |
| sixwheeledbeast | RiD: I understand | 00:40 |
| RiD | but i'm going to try the paper one, did not remember of that | 00:40 |
| bencoh | a third n900 might be an option | 00:40 |
| RiD | i do have a 3rd one LOL | 00:40 |
| bencoh | :] | 00:40 |
| RiD | parts only, was sort of a scam | 00:40 |
| bencoh | meh | 00:40 |
| sixwheeledbeast | M4rtinK: least query before I investigate my tiles issue... | 00:40 |
| sixwheeledbeast | last* | 00:40 |
| RiD | the body is in horrible conditions, it boots to the NOKIA logo, then shuts down. You even see the screen "fading out" slowly, like some gameboys did | 00:41 |
| RiD | tried USB, it was solid but could never get it to being detected | 00:41 |
| bencoh | wtf | 00:41 |
| sixwheeledbeast | M4rtinK: On starting modRana with no fix the tiles do not load, do you need a fix before the tiles will display? | 00:42 |
| bencoh | how does modrana compare to marble these days ? | 00:42 |
| bencoh | (perfs, fonctionalities ...) | 00:42 |
| sixwheeledbeast | never used marble | 00:42 |
| M4rtinK | bencoh: it is still being developed for mobile devices #unlike Marble :) | 00:43 |
| bencoh | err :) | 00:43 |
| bencoh | right ... true :) | 00:43 |
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| M4rtinK | bencoh: also I found the Marbel UI kinda chaotic on the N900 and N9 (?) | 00:44 |
| bencoh | probably not the best they could've come with, but not that bad | 00:45 |
| M4rtinK | sure, modRana does not have a map projected on sphere, but actually works :) | 00:45 |
| bencoh | the only things that bothers me with it is the freaking slow/broken offline fuzzy search | 00:45 |
| RiD | Just tried the paper trick, nope. Boots, and instead of asking for pin, it says that all functions are disabled (...) | 00:45 |
| M4rtinK | bencoh: Marble has that ? | 00:46 |
| bencoh | offline exact search works well, online search (fuzzy by default) too | 00:46 |
| bencoh | yeah | 00:46 |
| sixwheeledbeast | Would be nice to view the map while waiting for a GPS fix, for example. | 00:46 |
| bencoh | but it's sooo slow you'd think it doesnt | 00:46 |
| bencoh | it uses the POI database | 00:46 |
| bencoh | POI/routing | 00:46 |
| bencoh | (that you can configure/download for monav) | 00:46 |
| M4rtinK | BTW, modRana can use Monav data for routing :) | 00:47 |
| sixwheeledbeast | I use monav, seems ok. | 00:47 |
| M4rtinK | and there is a global data repository for it: http://modrana.org/data/monav/ :) | 00:47 |
| sixwheeledbeast | well I have found plenty of map errors with it :( | 00:47 |
| M4rtinK | its is as good as the source data :) | 00:48 |
| sixwheeledbeast | agreed | 00:48 |
| M4rtinK | BTW, I've recently forked Monav: https://github.com/M4rtinK/monav-light :) | 00:48 |
| bencoh | huh | 00:49 |
| bencoh | why ? | 00:49 |
| M4rtinK | the idea is to cut out all the GUI stuff, daemon/server modes, protocol buffers | 00:49 |
| bencoh | oh, because monav is dead I guess | 00:49 |
| M4rtinK | and just have a simple headless routing utility that consumes JSON input and returns JSON results | 00:49 |
| M4rtinK | bencoh: that's another reason | 00:50 |
| M4rtinK | bencoh: but it is still the best routing code I've seen so far :) | 00:50 |
| M4rtinK | I think even OSRM is based on it | 00:51 |
| M4rtinK | but the project itself is unfortunately dead as doornails | 00:51 |
| M4rtinK | there is a Sailfish OS port though: https://github.com/tunp/monavsailfish | 00:52 |
| M4rtinK | that actually inspired me to start on the monav-light project | 00:53 |
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| sixwheeledbeast | M4rtinK: so monav-light could be packaged up with modrana? | 00:54 |
| sixwheeledbeast | Instead of the current download and drop the files in the monav folder | 00:55 |
| M4rtinK | sixwheeledbeast: yep | 00:55 |
| sixwheeledbeast | M4rtinK: sweet! | 00:55 |
| M4rtinK | either installed as a dependency or bundled | 00:55 |
| M4rtinK | data file handling would be the same | 00:55 |
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| kerio | whoops | 00:55 |
| M4rtinK | https://wiki.maemo.org/ModRana_offline_routing_guide | 00:56 |
| M4rtinK | well, at least until some sort of download UI is done | 00:56 |
| M4rtinK | current plan is to use it on desktop, Sailfish OS and Android | 00:57 |
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| M4rtinK | I have actually succeeded in compiling it for all three | 00:57 |
| M4rtinK | already | 00:57 |
| M4rtinK | I don't have a working Maemo 5 SDK so I can't build it for the N900 | 00:58 |
| sixwheeledbeast | M4rtinK: how is address to address routing with monav looking, I believe it's not possible for some reason? | 00:58 |
| M4rtinK | it does just point to point routing | 00:58 |
| M4rtinK | but it has some sort of address lookup support | 00:59 |
| sixwheeledbeast | Well I believe ~sb links will point you to a Maemo SDK | 00:59 |
| sixwheeledbeast | ~sb | 00:59 |
| infobot_ | i heard scratchbox is a cross-compiling system that uses binfmt_misc, rpc calls, and an nfs mount to make a cross-build appear to be 100% native, and is found at http://www.scratchbox.org/, hosted by maemo now. Also at http://maemo.merlin1991.at/files/SB | 00:59 |
| sixwheeledbeast | ~sdk | 00:59 |
| infobot_ | methinks sdk is http://privatepaste.com/e4a5b13fad or "wget http://repository.maemo.org/tabletsdev/explicit/maemo-dev-env-downloads/downloads/Readme_Ubuntu_Lucid_Desktop_SDK_Virtual_Image_Final.txt" | 00:59 |
| M4rtinK | the offline address search is just not yet exposed in either the old Monav routing server modRana currently uses on the N900 or in monav-light | 01:00 |
| merlin1991 | ~sb is the same stuff | 01:00 |
| infobot_ | ...but sb is already something else... | 01:00 |
| sixwheeledbeast | :) infobot we know | 01:00 |
| M4rtinK | but I plan to add it to monav-light eventually | 01:00 |
| bencoh | M4rtinK: marble uses monav as well | 01:01 |
| bencoh | (that's one of the several backends, and the only offline one) | 01:01 |
| M4rtinK | sixwheeledbeast: both links are dead :) | 01:02 |
| M4rtinK | bencoh: yep, I know | 01:02 |
| M4rtinK | bencoh: but Monav by default only exposes routing data | 01:02 |
| sixwheeledbeast | M4rtinK: merlin1991.at? | 01:02 |
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| M4rtinK | bencoh: and only either over a C++ interface or over a protocol buffer based network interface | 01:03 |
| sixwheeledbeast | M4rtinK: Maemo_Ubuntu_Lucid_Desktop_SDK_Virtual_Image_Final.7z | 01:03 |
| M4rtinK | bencoh: which is a huge overkill & unneeded dependency | 01:03 |
| M4rtinK | bencoh: and even that does not expose other data types like adress search (tournament trie) | 01:06 |
| M4rtinK | bencoh: that was another reason why I started on the monav-light project | 01:06 |
| M4rtinK | sixwheeledbeast: downloading the VM image | 01:08 |
| M4rtinK | sixwheeledbeast: do you have any experience with it : | 01:08 |
| M4rtinK | sixwheeledbeast: ? | 01:08 |
| sixwheeledbeast | M4rtinK: yep it works that's about it... | 01:08 |
| M4rtinK | sixwheeledbeast: good to hear that :) | 01:09 |
| M4rtinK | I would like to build monav-light | 01:09 |
| M4rtinK | and also PyOtherSide for Maemo 5, if possible | 01:09 |
| M4rtinK | that would make running the Qt 5 GUI possible | 01:09 |
| sixwheeledbeast | M4rtinK: I have a VM with debian and scratchbox build from scratch years ago that I normally use. But I have installed and played with the Ubuntu VM in the last 12 months too. | 01:11 |
| M4rtinK | sixwheeledbeast: as long as I can add this: http://wiki.maemo.org/Qt5-Maemo5 | 01:12 |
| M4rtinK | sixwheeledbeast: I should be able to build monav-light | 01:12 |
| bencoh | monav-light is qt5-based ? | 01:13 |
| bencoh | (is that still "light" ? ;) | 01:13 |
| M4rtinK | bencoh: even "normal" Monav is Qt based | 01:13 |
| M4rtinK | even the non GUI stuff | 01:13 |
| sixwheeledbeast | M4rtinK: I have a VM with debian and scratchbox build from scratch years ago that I normally use. But I have installed and played with the Ubuntu VM in the last 12 months too. | 01:13 |
| sixwheeledbeast | IIRC everything is there, if you know your way about Gnome2 interface then you can switch off locking screensaver too. | 01:14 |
| sixwheeledbeast | Which is annoying | 01:14 |
| M4rtinK | I think only the most low level routing calculations are "plain" C++ | 01:14 |
| M4rtinK | sixwheeledbeast: I'll probably just SSH to it :) | 01:14 |
| M4rtinK | bencoh: it is actually quite handy that it is Qt based - I'm for example using the QJsonDocument class introduced in Qt 5 | 01:15 |
| M4rtinK | for JSON input/output | 01:15 |
| M4rtinK | Qt 5 is basically the only outside dependency | 01:16 |
| M4rtinK | so no need to hunt down obscure stuff, compile it and than compile against that | 01:16 |
| M4rtinK | help a lot | 01:16 |
| M4rtinK | *helps | 01:16 |
| M4rtinK | especially with my marginal C++ knowledge :) | 01:17 |
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| sixwheeledbeast | ~seen psycho_oreos | 01:40 |
| infobot_ | psycho_oreos <~no@unaffiliated/tuxsavvy> was last seen on IRC in channel #kde, 477d 7h 40m 4s ago, saying: 'Nevermind, problem seems fixed. Thanks anyways.'. | 01:41 |
| antranigv | hay guys, how can I find the sources of a program? gTranslate to be more exact. | 01:41 |
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| antranigv | ahh, garage, okey thanks all! (: | 01:44 |
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| totalizator | have you seen latest posts at TMO? | 10:11 |
| bencoh | ? | 10:11 |
| bencoh | oh oO | 10:12 |
| sixwheeledbeast | totalizator: reported now. | 10:12 |
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| DerHat | Hi | 20:01 |
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| antranigv | guys, how to update the kernel on Ubuntu 14.04 LTS ? it's still 3.13 | 22:26 |
| KotCzarny | that's what you get for using lts | 22:26 |
| KotCzarny | either go current or lts | 22:27 |
| KotCzarny | unless you want to compile one yourself | 22:27 |
| sixwheeledbeast | antranigv: as above LTS is long term support, so only critical updates. | 22:29 |
| antranigv | well, I use Funtoo (gentoo variant), it's for my friend, he's having problem with the WiFi, they told me that the 3.15 has the driver (: so it looks like he has to upgrade | 22:29 |
| merlin1991 | antranigv: he could check https://backports.wiki.kernel.org/index.php/Main_Page | 22:30 |
| merlin1991 | I got my ath9k based card running on debian (3.2.0 kernel) with that | 22:31 |
| antranigv | thanks merlin1991 (: I'll check that. | 22:32 |
| sixwheeledbeast | Why LTS and not latest? | 22:32 |
| antranigv | sixwheeledbeast: I have no idea, but if the WiFi will work with the latest, I'll ask him to install that one (: | 22:34 |
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| sixwheeledbeast | antranigv: It would be the simplest, IMO http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2014/10/upgrade-ubuntu-14-04-to-14-10 | 22:36 |
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| sixwheeledbeast | Also 15.04 is due to be released in the next few weeks | 22:36 |
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| sixwheeledbeast | that's if you are sure 14.10 will fix it. | 22:38 |
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| scottc | I have this strange bug where my screen sometimes seems to be scaled to about 75% in a window in the middle of the screen | 23:30 |
| scottc | on my N900 | 23:30 |
| scottc | anyone seen this before? | 23:30 |
| scottc | I've only noticed it since adding the SSU but I haven't had it for very long either | 23:31 |
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| merlin1991 | it's when the video driver goes bonkers | 23:50 |
| merlin1991 | reboot seems to be the only way to fix it | 23:50 |
| merlin1991 | I've only ever had it twice | 23:50 |
| sixwheeledbeast | I have had it once, reboot, | 23:51 |
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