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chem|stX-Fade: your looking after repos right? karam asked about profile links http://maemo.org/packages/view/task-swapper/ shows two different profiles linked in description and stages list01:16
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EdLinremember that Nokia N900 for $199 refurbished I was looking at on expansys? Literally within days of seeing it they sold it out, and now have it listed as "discontinued". :-(04:29
EdLinnow all I have left are used ones to get, or allegedly new ones from that Hong Kong dealer on eBay.04:30
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Sazpaimonhow can I check the credentials of an account I'm adding with telepathy before adding it05:48
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vivekgcan I connect my n900 (which is connected to wifi) as a internet connection for my mac using either bluetooth or usb networking option? how do i do this ?06:47
tank-manyour mac has no wifi?07:01
tank-manlooks like it is possible www.google.com/search?q=n900+tethering07:02
vivekgya my mac wifi is broken.. but bluetooth is working fine.. so i want use n900 to connect to my wifi and then using n900's bluetooth, i will connect my mac to internet07:04
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vivekgtank-man: thank you for the link provided... I will give it a try and check. thank you07:24
tank-manit was just a generic google link, thank google07:25
vivekg:)07:25
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warheadmaemo is alive?11:11
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warheadcan't to open http://maemo.org/11:17
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ShadowJKwell I can't open google.11:20
warheadmaemo is shutdown?11:21
ShadowJKoh hey, now i get both google.com and maemo.org11:22
ShadowJKor, well,as far as <title> on both11:23
ShadowJKhttp://www.downforeveryoneorjustme.com/maemo.org11:24
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warheadShadowJK, You are not funy11:26
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ShadowJKI'm not trying to be.11:26
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RST38hmourning11:27
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chem|sto/ DocScrutinizer11:37
chem|sthey folks11:37
chem|stanyone an idea on the profile links karam asked me about (package view at p.m.o11:38
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* chem|st thinks its an account issue...11:41
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louisdkHi. My N900 only last about 6-9 hours at this moment. The battery is about a year old and the phone has some extra software installed. Also the mic is quite silent maybe because I dropped it on the floor a few times. What would you recommend me to do? I don't like the N9 do to lack of keyboard nor Android.15:24
Sicelobuy new battery. get mic fixed15:25
Sicelo:/15:25
louisdkHmm. How long time does your N900 last btw?15:26
Siceloi know for sure i'll nurse my N900 until it completely disintegrates15:26
Siceloheh15:26
Sicelodepends on usage.. i charge every night usually15:27
Siceloand it hasn't finished a year, lol15:27
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Sicelobut then i've always needed to charge my phones daily ... too much use, i assume.15:27
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Sicelolongest my n900 battery has lasted so far is 3 1/2 days15:30
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louisdkI'm wondering if I should buy the N9 or just get a secondary dumb phone for when I go out...15:33
Siceloentirely  up to you15:33
DocScrutinizer51longest was ovewr a week, on dev device, idle on wlan15:33
DocScrutinizer51longest was over a week, on dev device, idle on wlan15:33
RST38hget an iPhone, Sicelo15:33
* Sicelo sneaks into DocScrutinizer51's house... to steal his batter15:34
Sicelolol RST38h.15:34
SiceloRST38h: i've never used any apple product, and won't start any time soon. 'sides, my N900 is the best thing i ever owned, yet15:35
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louisdkSicelo: You're so right.15:51
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crashanddiefanboys fanboys, what'cha gonna do when they don't hack you16:06
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Sicelo:P16:09
Sicelofor me, at least, this was the first time i got hold of a device u can boot other OSes on. iPhone and Android don't seem to satisfy my requirements16:10
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louisdkI've made some video recoardings to test the mic. When using the build in mic the sound is quite low but when I use the external headset that came with my phone I can easily hear myself. This seems pretty strange to me.16:24
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louisdkWell. I'll take a look at alsamixer ;)16:27
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HaXerimy face when E7 is actually cheaper than N900 on Ebay (UK, new phone)17:41
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HaXeriI should just sell it and buy a replacement battery for E9017:42
int_uaWhat is the best place to put oversized attachment for a bug report?17:43
int_uahildon-desktop core dump is over 9000 KB17:43
int_uaanyone? I'm about to leave and I want to finish this report ASAP17:48
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int_uaAny experienced bug reporter present?17:52
StyXmanint_ua: 9MiB doesn´t look like too much17:55
StyXmanbut I never used maemo's BTS17:56
int_uabugs.maemo.org refused to attach it17:56
int_uaStyXman: can you suggest any place?17:56
int_uaI'm not sure about file sharing services17:57
int_uaThey look like inappropriate for such situation.17:58
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StyXmanhmm17:58
int_uaand I'm just out of ideas :(17:59
StyXmanI don't think you have much alternative, unless you have write access to a web server17:59
StyXmanmany alternatives*17:59
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x29aint_ua: can you split it?18:09
x29azip?18:09
int_uax29a: it's already compressed. And it would be ten parts to fit into 1000KB limit18:11
x29aurg18:11
int_uachecking file sharing services...18:14
int_uabzip made it 7.7Mb, but that's no defference18:15
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int_uaand fileshares just ignore file selection(18:22
int_ua(I'm trying it from my N900)18:23
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int_uaok, found one. Thanks, StyXman and x29a18:31
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z4chhwill maemo be doing google summer of code 2012?19:32
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NIN101I don't know - but I doubt it.19:33
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DocScrutinizer51who's maemo?19:34
NIN101We are maemo!19:36
DocScrutinizer51are "we" doing anything (entity)?19:36
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DocScrutinizer51except being maemo and hanging out here19:37
DocScrutinizer51:-D19:37
Cor-Aibeing awsome?19:39
NIN101my point was nokia abandoned maemo, so I really doubt it will be present in gsoc.19:39
DocScrutinizer51that's exactly my point as well19:40
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DocScrutinizer51ShadowJK: ping19:42
StyXmanit doesn´t mean maemo can´t do anything in GSoC, but somebody has to organize it :|19:42
DocScrutinizer51ShadowJK: thuis biti-media shop seems to be :-(19:43
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DocScrutinizer51the offer is marked 'special offer' and in their TOS they say 'special offer means used product'19:45
DocScrutinizer51googling revealed nasty reports about that seller19:45
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ruskiehttp://www.theregister.co.uk/2012/02/21/ubuntu_for_android/19:59
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TofeHi20:20
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Timmyhow can i share wireless connection of maemo with my pc ?20:39
HaXeriwhat phone you haves?20:39
Timmyn90020:40
HaXeriwhat os yu have on compuber20:40
Timmydebian20:40
HaXerijust connect phone to your computer with usb cable and turn pc suite mode on from phone20:41
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HaXeriand network manager should pop up a window for choosing your operator etc20:41
Timmyprobably you don't understand what i am saying, im not going to share the gprs or 3g connection, i said wifi20:41
HaXerijust connect your n900 so same wlan as your computer dumbass q:DD20:42
Timmybecarefull about the language you are using20:43
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Cor-Aibut if that was what you wanted then you are an dumbass :P20:45
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Timmythere is a mother fucker wireless accesspoint here, i want to connect my n900 to it and share the fucken internet with my computer, can u get what the fuck im talking about?20:47
mgedminTimmy, you need a non-standard kernel if you want the n900 to do NAT for you20:48
mgedminor you can use OpenSSH's built-in SOCKS support20:49
mgedminconnect a cable, pick 'Nokia PC Suite', I think, that will enable usbnet20:49
psycho_oreosTimmy, http://myn900.wordpress.com/2010/08/29/tether-n900s-wifi-connection-via-usb/20:49
ShadowJKDocScrutinizer / DocScrutinizer51 ; seemed to good to be true really20:52
DocScrutinizersomewhat, yeah20:52
DocScrutinizernow the more I wonder how bad that HK seller might be20:52
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DocScrutinizerI'd even forget about seller's warranty, as long as they don't send a brick for those 250 USD20:54
DocScrutinizerhmm, back to the Czech connection then?20:54
DocScrutinizerI'll try a completely different approach: drop by at a @K shop and ask them to get 2 devices for me. Let's see what they tell me20:56
DocScrutinizer@KA ?20:57
Timmypsycho_oreos: shit, that was a fucking article20:58
Timmyi mean it was awesome20:58
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DocScrutinizerI'm tending to +q somebody soon21:04
DocScrutinizerTimmy: no, you did NOT say WIFI, you said "wireless connection"21:04
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DocScrutinizerand honestly, N900 is a poor WLAN dongle21:06
DocScrutinizerbetter get a WIFI USB stick for some 10 bucks21:06
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DocScrutinizerif your computer doesn't have any built-in WLAN21:06
DocScrutinizeresp since N900 WLAN module isn't notorious for excellent bandwidth and flawless powersaving mode21:07
DocScrutinizerand you probably would want to use USB rather less frequently, actually only if there's no better alternative at all, given USB receptacle is the #1 single point of damage/failure of N900 and usually results in a device brolken beyond reasonable repair21:09
Cor-Ai:'(21:10
Cor-AiI miss my n900 *sobs*21:10
DocScrutinizerborked USB?21:11
Cor-Aimhmm :/21:11
Cor-Aiim looking for a new21:11
Cor-AiUSB on ebay but tight budget21:11
DocScrutinizernew USB?21:12
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Cor-Aiyeah, to attache to my device :P21:12
DocScrutinizersorry you lost me21:12
DocScrutinizerooh, a spare receptacle component?21:12
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Cor-Aiyeah! sorry for my bad eng :/21:12
DocScrutinizernp21:12
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DocScrutinizerthose shouldn't be too expensive21:13
DocScrutinizerI think I've seen them for like 2..3 bucks21:13
DocScrutinizeron ebay21:13
DocScrutinizeris your budget THAT tight?21:14
Cor-Aii i know.. im blaming my budget but realy its im to lazy :P21:14
DocScrutinizerhah21:14
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Cor-Aito lazy to get an ebay account.. damn im lazy these days.. well well21:15
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* ShadowJK yawns22:20
ShadowJK732/1152 mAh at end of day. 4 hours podcasts, idling on irc (2 hours on 3g accidentally)22:21
ShadowJKwho said N900 batterylife sucks? :)22:21
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Sicelowow!22:31
Sicelopodcasts .. streaming them, or replaying previously downloaded ones?22:32
DocScrutinizerwow? normal!22:32
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ShadowJKI downloaded while still on charger before leaving22:35
ShadowJKMy operator called me a few weeks ago trying to sell me mobile broadband, saying the network in my area has been upgraded22:35
Sicelook :)22:36
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ShadowJKsince then it feels like network traffic hasn't used as much battery :P22:36
Siceloindeed.. i was about to comment that one of the biggest problems i have (which impact negatively on my battery use, N900 or any other phone) is that my operator sucks22:37
Sicelothat's what you get when there's no competition :(22:37
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* ShadowJK was also using his powersaving irc bouncer/firewall script :P22:47
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Sicelocheating! lol22:49
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timelessDocScrutinizer: has anyone analyzed the update? :)22:50
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Siceloyeah.. 3 packages updated, iirc, to correct Diginotar certificate issues22:53
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ShadowJKyep22:56
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NsaneN900hey dudes =D23:11
NsaneN900currently hospitalised and bored ass hell so was trying to intstall starcraft on my n90023:12
NsaneN900but have to extract files form the iso file23:12
NsaneN900file roller didnt work23:13
NsaneN900any ideas?23:13
MohammadAGIf you have kernel power you could modprobe isofs and try to mount it23:14
NsaneN900yeah have power kernel =)23:16
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NsaneN900does power kernel include iso966023:20
NsaneN900?23:20
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DocScrutinizernot always :-/23:25
PaliNsaneN900, unpack ISO image on computer23:25
DocScrutinizerindeed23:25
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Paliand then copy install.exe file to MyDocs/Starcraft23:25
Pali(if I remember correctly)23:26
Paliin some TMO thread is written steps23:26
PaliNsaneN900, instructions are here: http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=6746623:27
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NsaneN900pali, im in hospital23:28
NsaneN900no computer23:28
NsaneN900=(23:28
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NsaneN900but nvm23:28
NsaneN900looks like xarchiver is working=)23:29
Paliin last kernel power is isofs.ko23:29
Paliso mount could be also possible23:29
DocScrutinizerNsaneN900: http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=65232 :: >> LATEST NEWS: there are missing modules in powerkernel46. See http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php...219#post971219 - we're aware now and working on it. Shall be fixed in recent PK48  (which is said to work http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p...&postcount=861 ). For PK47 see http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php...91#post1116491 - thanks blue_led :-) <<23:29
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PaliI enabled some modules for cdrom support in pre50 (they are in kernel-power-modules package)23:32
NsaneN900Nice =D23:32
PaliBut I do not know if it is working now23:32
NsaneN900but im using 4923:32
Paliso then let me know if mounting iso is working or not23:33
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lxpPali: here is the source http://david.gnedt.eu/wl1251/wl1251-maemo-0.2-source.tar.gz23:42
Palilxp, thanks!23:43
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Palilxp, do you work on some integrations with kernel-power build process?23:44
Paliok, now I unpacked and I see build-wl.sh script23:44
lxpPali: i also have a deb packaging for compat-wireless23:45
lxpbut it isn't finished23:45
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Paliok23:46
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lxpPali: i haven't tested the build-wl.sh, but it is derived from a script i used before23:48
lxpi hope it contains no errors23:48
Palilxp, my idea is to create deb package which will have only source tarballs (push and update in extras-devel) and kernel-power dsc will depend on this package23:48
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Paliso when kernel-power will be compiled it will also compile that wl1251 + other wireless modules for current kernel-power version23:49
Paliand that modules will be in separate deb package (but builded by one dsc package)23:50
DocScrutinizerFFS what's git for?23:50
PaliI will test script build-wl.sh later23:51
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lxpPali: ah ok, my current package has a build-dependency on kernel-power and source packages are created from the git repositories23:59
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