IRC log of #maemo for Wednesday, 2012-02-22

lxpthe compat-wireless admin scripts require git repositories to work... that was also the problem with the source i bundled with 0.100:00
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DocScrutinizerI think the problem is powerkernel is NOT in git00:04
* DocScrutinizer idly wonders if PK47 modules would work with PK49/50, when modprobe knew/knows -f00:05
DocScrutinizeras long as nothing basic has changed....00:05
DocScrutinizer...then why should a PK47 module not work under PK49?00:06
Palipacket injection drivers which worked in v47, v48, v49 does not work in pre50 (after mesh was disabled)00:06
DocScrutinizerhmm, that's "something changed" for sure00:07
DocScrutinizerD'OH00:07
* DocScrutinizer recalls his daily phone runs with some mod'o'fied WLAN drivers since months00:08
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DocScrutinizer:-o00:08
DocScrutinizerI played guinea pig for CSSU00:09
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DocScrutinizeror dang, that's for sure not been the driver.. meh can't recall it anymore00:10
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merlin1991DocScrutinizer: was some other deamon00:16
merlin1991not the driver00:16
merlin1991though wireless related00:16
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Guest99557I'd like to streamline my repos.  Can someone share a link of available repos? I feel sure I have some I don't need whilst others I do but perhaps aren't the latest for my build (Maemo 5 on N900 version 20.2010.36-2.002)02:59
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internetishardwhat does it mean when you call a number and it says not available, but when you call support they claim they can call the number?06:57
internetishardThe number is 877-723-724506:57
internetishardIt has just said, "number not available" to me for the entire last week - I try everyday. I've never heard of this before.06:57
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luke-jrinternetishard: some idiots setup toll-free numbers that only work from some phones07:09
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internetishardluke-jr: yeah tmo couldn't even call it07:11
internetishardheh07:11
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Macerhm09:09
Maceri am starting to suspect that omweather was absorbing an excessive amount of battery09:09
Macerforeca seems to be more kind09:09
Macermaybe problems refreshing?09:10
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DocScrutinizerquite possible09:45
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LaoLang_coolHow to find a contact matching with a string? Say I want to find some contacts that have "MS" in any of the contact description  fields09:51
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DocScrutinizergood question - at least the standard contacts app is painfully missing this global search.09:58
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DocScrutinizerLaoLang_cool: Nicolai to the rescue: http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=60526&page=309:59
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LaoLang_coolDocScrutinizer: seems it's not the global searching, anyway, better than haven't10:05
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DocScrutinizerLaoLang_cool: http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=990571#post99057110:06
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DocScrutinizeryou easily can change that to do whatever search you like10:06
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LaoLang_coolDocScrutinizer: yes, but I'm not a programmer :( What I want is just a contactsearch.sh "MS", then all contacts haveing "MS" in any field will be listed up...10:08
DocScrutinizersorry, no time right now to patch that scriptie so it does exactly what you ask for10:08
LaoLang_coolDocScrutinizer: thank you anyway10:09
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JaffaMorning12:01
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florianhi Jaffa12:07
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intHi, anyone here with power kernel active at the moment?14:02
intI'm trying to chroot into the latest ubuntu image and found info that it worked in 2010 on power-kernel14:03
Siceloask your question14:04
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intI want to start with checking if there is something in /proc/sys/fs/binfmt_misc14:05
intSicelo: ^14:06
inton non-power kernel it's empty14:06
Sicelothe directory is empty as well here14:06
Sicelokp4914:07
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intSicelo: Okay, thank you. I'm sorry to bother you but can you post $ lsmod result? on Pastebin? Will make mine in a moment and you can only briefly compare them if you don't want to post14:10
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Sicelohttp://pastebin.com/SDMip7TB14:12
inthttp://pastebin.com/b7LRkeed14:12
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intand nothing related to chroot.. Thanks a lot :) and I'm out of ideas currently...14:25
Sicelono one here knows what you are doing, or what problems you're facing. i doubt they can help you in that case. mind stating what the problem really is?14:31
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adrocHello ! I am thinking of getting a 2nd hand n900, and am curious of various little things about this phone and distro14:33
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psycho_oreosits not exactly a smartphone14:34
adrocyes I understood its more a very tiny computer14:35
psycho_oreosand you should also realise that nokia no longer recognises maemo as their platform. They have more or less disowned it14:35
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adrocI'm reluctant in giving all my life details to google, and using linux only at home since ages, so I thought n900 may be a nice toy for me, that I could use as a phone too14:36
psycho_oreosIt is a nice toy if you're familiar with linux, especially the command line stuff14:36
psycho_oreosand also be quick to forgiving its shortfalls14:37
mgedminadroc, I was pretty happy with it one year ago -- not as a phone, but as a portable hand-held computer14:37
mgedminas a phone it's not very nice14:37
adroclike, too big ? or feature wise ?14:37
mgedmin(short battery life, slow and non-responsive UI after a while)14:37
adrock14:37
mgedminsee, you can do so much with it that you tend to do it a lot14:38
mgedminwhich means battery doesn't last the entire day14:38
mgedminand since you can do stuff, you tend to fill its tiny little 256 MB of RAM with web pages and stuff14:38
psycho_oreosmost smartphones these days are more or less the same14:38
Siceloand 'weak' usb port (which is the life of the device)14:38
mgedminwhich means when you get an incoming call, the n900 is busy swapping things out so it can display you the incoming number etc14:38
adrocSicelo: I heard of it yes14:38
mgedminI've seen this take, uhh, I didn't measure14:38
mgedmin30 seconds?14:38
adrocouch14:39
mgedminlet's settle with "unacceptably long" for me14:39
mgedminmaybe it was more like 10 seconds14:39
psycho_oreosit gets worse the longer the uptime is14:39
mgedminyes!14:39
intSicelo: the problem is that binaries that look no different from ones from Debian that succesfully chroot will not execute with "Exec format error"14:39
psycho_oreoseven when it comes to acting as a simple alarm clock, hitting the stop button takes seconds to respond and all that time you keep hearing the alarm chime14:39
intHere is the old thread: http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=64651 (but without any useful info except link to person who tried it and never answered the last question)14:40
adrochow active is the community ? nokia dropped support, but enthusiasts are still here, and repos too ? well, you seem to be here, anyways :)14:40
psycho_oreosthe USB port issue is well known within tmo but there's a thread or two about dodgy audio port14:40
psycho_oreosmost of the community repositories are up14:41
intSicelo: the only difference between executables is stated kernel version but it varies both in Debian ELFs and Ubuntu ELFs14:41
psycho_oreosnokia's repositories are also up but nokia doesn't provide any updates apart from security update (which was already fixed initially by the community)14:41
adrocI have an old e65, it is getting hard to find anything for it14:42
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intlike "for GNU/Linux 2.6.14" or 2.6.16, 1814:43
psycho_oreosN900 may too soon suffer the same fate14:43
adrocyes, this is what makes me a bit afraid . I have the feeling I wil have fun with this, but that it won't last long14:44
psycho_oreosideally a few N900 would be nice if your budget permits14:46
* mgedmin would rather buy a n9 than a few n900s: the hardware is slicker and more powerful14:47
* psycho_oreos loathes at the idea of hw-keyboard-less devices despite the fact that he too owns a n9 as well14:49
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Siceloah, didn't know you upgraded as well :)14:50
adrocactually I like the idea of the phtsical kb14:50
adrocand well, n9 is not in the same price range14:51
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psycho_oreosI would love to have N950 despite the fact that its not available publicly and that in some ways its a little inferior to n9. However I just can't stand the pure touchscreen keyboard regardless of the amount of time I spent forgiving the fact that theres simply no proper hardware keyboard14:52
psycho_oreosSicelo, more like a downgrade imo14:52
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psycho_oreosthe other day I was helping a bloke with his N900 and his query made me dig out my N900 which I must admit that I could love N900 all over again14:53
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Sicelo:)14:55
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psycho_oreosand speaking of N950 vs n9, I just recalled of a belief that I have held. The fact that one can't get N950 but is a tinkerer that can only get n9 as a result is really pushing oneself in a vulnerable state in front of developers whom were gifted with N950. Its more like a master and slave relationship compared to N900 days where both the dev and the end users were on the same level playing field14:57
psycho_oreostry not to get sodomised ;)14:57
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intI think I've found.. not the answer but the link to the reason: http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=871036&postcount=185715:00
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adrocok, thank you guys for your input - I'll let a few nights pass before deciding :)15:10
adrochave a nice day !15:10
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intI was wrong about versions15:50
intmost of debian ELFs are for 2.6.1815:51
intand not a single one in ubuntu15:51
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Paliping onion22:05
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HaXeriping pong22:07
HaXerican i has an japanian input on N9?22:07
wmaronewhat input?22:07
e0xkana keyboard ?22:07
HaXeriyup22:08
HaXeriim wondering if i should buy N9 or lumia 80022:08
e0xHaXeri: https://code.google.com/p/maliit-plugin-jp/22:08
e0xtry that22:08
wmaronemmm, can't see that page without letting google riddle me with cookies22:09
kerioHaXeri: samsung galaxy note22:09
e0xhttps://wiki.maliit.org/Main_Page22:09
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wmaroneah, yeah22:10
* wmarone notes that down in the event he gets an N922:11
HaXerikerio: why, tell me some key features22:11
kerioHaXeri: it's huge as fuck22:11
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kerioHaXeri: nice screen22:11
kerioHaXeri: plays angry birds22:12
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HaXerikerio: i dont need a huge screen, a large resolution would be nice22:40
kerioHaXeri: my suggestion was only partly serious, mind you22:40
keriothe galaxy note has awesome specs, a beautiful screen, and IT'S FUCKING HUGE22:41
kerioand it has android22:41
kerioso that's dumb22:41
keriobut considering that the alternative is basically either another android phone, an iphone, or another n900...22:41
HaXerii saw a dumb girl at school holding a huge android phone today22:41
HaXeriwonder if it was note22:41
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ShadowJKnote looks awesome22:48
ShadowJKbut android and no keyboard :/22:48
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