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| GAN800 | Threadcrapping indeed | 00:07 |
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| * Stskeeps wonders if the rebate programme will give some interesting proposals. | 00:08 | |
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| eukreign3 | couldn't get fennec to work, giving up | 00:15 |
| eukreign3 | it needed libgpsbt which i didn't have and can't seem to find anywhere | 00:15 |
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| qwerty12_N800 | Did you choose to install the closed nokia binaries during install? | 00:16 |
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| eukreign3 | qwerty12_N800: i'm using the vmware maemo sdk | 00:31 |
| eukreign3 | so i didn't have to install anything | 00:31 |
| eukreign3 | is it possible that some things are missing from that? | 00:32 |
| eukreign3 | the whole point of using the vmware image is so that everything is already correctly preconfigured... | 00:32 |
| eukreign3 | or so they claim :-D | 00:32 |
| qwerty12_N800 | IIRC, the vmware image has a script on the desktop which'll install the things that cannot be redistributed with the image legally | 00:33 |
| eukreign3 | oooh | 00:33 |
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| eukreign3 | there are no scripts on the desktop other than the ESBox icon | 00:33 |
| qwerty12_N800 | Hmm, been a long while since I last used it. Read 2.4 of: http://repository.maemo.org/stable/diablo/INSTALL.txt | 00:35 |
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| GAN800 | jamiebennett, X-Fade wont be back on 'til tomorrow. | 00:40 |
| Jaffa | re | 00:42 |
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| eukreign3 | qwerty12_N800: doing that now, thanks for the tip | 00:44 |
| eukreign3 | it's installing 77 new pacakges | 00:44 |
| jaska | hmm, hows the performance of the internal sd on n810 compared to a random class6? | 00:44 |
| eukreign3 | including the ones i couldn't find :-) | 00:44 |
| jaska | just wondering whether i should clone onto internal or a separate :| | 00:44 |
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| eukreign3 | yippy!!! | 00:51 |
| eukreign3 | i have fennec running in the sdk | 00:51 |
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| eukreign3 | the /usr/bin/fakeroot is missing in the ARMEL target as well | 00:55 |
| eukreign3 | am i the only one who has the this problem? | 00:55 |
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| eukreign3 | also, can't install anything through the Application manager | 00:58 |
| eukreign3 | works fine through apt-get | 00:58 |
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| Guest6384_664 | a master of pigin faq here? | 02:35 |
| Guest6384_664 | *pidgin | 02:35 |
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| KurtKraut | I've seen there is no sshfs for Maemo. How should I mount a remote partition/folder in Maemo? | 02:52 |
| rzr | nfs ? | 02:53 |
| qwerty12_N800 | Your eyes decieve you then. ;) FUSE and sshfs are in Extras | 02:53 |
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| KurtKraut | qwerty12_N800: I thought I had extras set. How can I enable it? | 02:54 |
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| xnt14 | ~seen b-man16 | 02:57 |
| infobot | b-man16 <n=b-man@pool-71-124-32-204.chi01.dsl-w.verizon.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #maemo, 22h 20m 20s ago, saying: 'hello, penguinbait :)'. | 02:57 |
| qwerty12_N800 | KurtKraut: I think it's a package that does not show up in the application manager by default - you'll have to apt-get install sshfs | 02:57 |
| xnt14 | 22 hours :p | 02:57 |
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| KurtKraut | qwerty12_N800: that worked. Thanks. | 02:59 |
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| kkrusty | is there any hope for an RTM client for maemo? | 04:05 |
| kkrusty | Zutun doesnt work and so does Doneit | 04:05 |
| kkrusty | and theres a canola plugin from what I hear but thats months away I bet | 04:05 |
| kkrusty | is maemo dying? | 04:07 |
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| eukreign3 | hello | 04:20 |
| eukreign3 | so, i'm working on my user interface and just when i thought i was done i realized that when you click on an entry box the whole thing gets squished because of the onscreen keyboard the pops up | 04:20 |
| eukreign3 | is there anyway to disable the onscreen keyboard or is there a best practice for how to handle squishing your app when it comes up | 04:21 |
| zakkm | eukreign3: its done by a command | 04:21 |
| eukreign3 | i guess i can put my form in a scrolledwindow... | 04:21 |
| zakkm | you cant really block it, you can make stylus one come up | 04:22 |
| zakkm | or you can rewrite the box spot | 04:22 |
| zakkm | like coding | 04:22 |
| eukreign3 | okay, so i have to compensate for it | 04:22 |
| zakkm | there should be an alternate command | 04:22 |
| eukreign3 | well, i think i'm just going to stick my form into a scrolledwindow | 04:22 |
| zakkm | ive never coded so unfortunately i cant help you, but there should be another uhh coding line you can replace with, and it wont come up | 04:22 |
| eukreign3 | i have 7 inputs stacked ontop of each other, looks fine until you click into an input, then they get squished because they don't fit | 04:23 |
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| Macer | doctors still use maggots to pull dead flesh off of people | 05:20 |
| luke-jr | no wai | 05:20 |
| Macer | those wacky maggots and their need to feed on dead flesh | 05:20 |
| acydlord | s/maggots/zombies | 05:21 |
| Macer | naw. zombies eat live brains | 05:21 |
| Macer | wow Germans were nuts | 05:21 |
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| acydlord | well all the zombie attacks in the news lately i havent heard of any brain noms | 05:22 |
| acydlord | mostly arms and legs | 05:22 |
| Macer | still watching the documentary about auschwitz | 05:23 |
| Macer | :) i'm on part 10 | 05:23 |
| acydlord | do they cover the telekenesis projects and all the other mind warfare crap? | 05:23 |
| Macer | no. it's more a sympathy documentary . they only showed the tests in twis | 05:24 |
| Macer | twins | 05:24 |
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| Macer | where the doctors would inject disease into twins and wait for one to die then murder the other one at the same time to compare them | 05:24 |
| Macer | only mindfucked people do things like that | 05:25 |
| GAN8001 | Macer, works really well as they only eat the necrotic flesh. | 05:25 |
| Macer | well. hopefully i never get gangrene | 05:26 |
| Macer | wow. the mossad went to south america and found the death camp people that ran away to south america | 05:26 |
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| * GAN8001 wishes he had some honey. | 05:27 | |
| zakkm | telekinesis is real , what you guys on about :) | 05:28 |
| Macer | well. wonder what that would mean for a telekenetic jew in auschwitz | 05:28 |
| zakkm | my family is jewish, from the UK too | 05:29 |
| zakkm | ive gone atheist, but yeah | 05:29 |
| Macer | britan police officers deported jews to the nazis from the british isles | 05:29 |
| zakkm | you guys believe in telekinesis? | 05:30 |
| Macer | the french did too. | 05:30 |
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| b-man16 | ~seen xnt14 | 05:58 |
| infobot | xnt14 <n=xnt14@pool-71-190-240-139.nycmny.fios.verizon.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #maemo, 3h 35s ago, saying: '22 hours :p'. | 05:58 |
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| b-man16 | heh | 05:58 |
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| marnanel | I have a question about .install files and the garage extras-devel repository. When I try to install from http://rfk.garage.maemo.org/rfk.install , the app manager scans the repo but then claims there's no package called rfk, which there is. What am I doing wrong here? Did I misunderstand the syntax? | 06:01 |
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| GAN8001 | Got the right dist? | 06:11 |
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| GAN8001 | marnanel, I don't see it here: http://repository.maemo.org/extras/pool/diablo/free/r/ | 06:13 |
| marnanel | GAN8001: it's in http://repository.maemo.org/extras-devel/pool/fremantle/free/r/rfk/ | 06:14 |
| marnanel | is that bad? did I put it in the wrong place? | 06:14 |
| GAN8001 | Well, what are you trying to install it on? | 06:14 |
| zakkm | GAN8001: extras-devel not extras | 06:14 |
| zakkm | wait | 06:14 |
| zakkm | marnanel: thats fremantle.. not diablo | 06:14 |
| zakkm | you cant run that on the tablet. | 06:14 |
| marnanel | oh, sorry. | 06:15 |
| marnanel | duh. | 06:15 |
| zakkm | thats for the next version of the tablet, thats not out yet | 06:15 |
| GAN8001 | zakkm, bleh, typos on r.m.o links. | 06:15 |
| * marnanel moves it to diablo and tries again then | 06:15 | |
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| zakkm | is maemo garage any good , i never check it | 06:16 |
| GAN8001 | Good for? | 06:17 |
| zakkm | checking | 06:18 |
| zakkm | seeing latest news/updates | 06:18 |
| zakkm | general everyday "rss feed reading" | 06:18 |
| zakkm | of maemo stuff | 06:18 |
| GAN8001 | Downloads is good for software | 06:19 |
| GAN8001 | Planet for news | 06:19 |
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| zakkm | planet doesnt update often | 06:20 |
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| zakkm | ahh i miss the n800 skin :( | 06:20 |
| zakkm | ahh os2007 | 06:20 |
| GAN8001 | Bleh | 06:20 |
| GAN8001 | OS2008 is the only OS that has shipped reasonably bearable default themes. | 06:21 |
| zakkm | is it possible to go back to old hildon-desktop? | 06:21 |
| zakkm | and theme? | 06:21 |
| zakkm | like have diablo.. with 2007s look? | 06:21 |
| zakkm | GAN8001: would http://sse2.net/rotate/ "quick instructions" still apply? | 06:23 |
| zakkm | i get http://outpo.st/rotate/osso-software-version-rx34-unlocked_1%3a5.2008.43-7_all.deb .. 404 not found | 06:26 |
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| zakkm | The following packages will be REMOVED: | 06:43 |
| zakkm | osso-software-version-rx34 | 06:43 |
| zakkm | is that okay to do? | 06:43 |
| Macer | zakkm: i thought os2007 looked rather similar to 2008 | 06:47 |
| Macer | or vice versa | 06:47 |
| zakkm | 2007 looks different ;p | 06:49 |
| zakkm | its more stylus than fingered | 06:49 |
| zakkm | and the themes are much different | 06:49 |
| Macer | i ran it for like 2 weeks .. then 2008 came out | 06:53 |
| Macer | i never really looked back | 06:53 |
| acydlord | i still remember the 770 days | 06:54 |
| * acydlord sighs | 06:54 | |
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| Macer | isn't it strange that the secretary of state during the abomb bombings was named burns | 06:56 |
| zakkm | 770 was awesome, until mine wsod and i had no warranty :( | 06:57 |
| zakkm | it was only like two weeks old | 06:57 |
| zakkm | i would of got another but i was scared that would do the same | 06:57 |
| acydlord | i traded mine for a lcd panel after i got my n800 | 06:57 |
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| zakkm | thats sick | 06:58 |
| zakkm | i got my n800 for a good deal at the time | 06:58 |
| acydlord | i got my n800 for full price | 06:58 |
| zakkm | heh | 06:58 |
| zakkm | expensivee | 06:58 |
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| acydlord | was gonna stick with it but i got the discount on the n810 | 06:58 |
| acydlord | and then traded my n800 for a bike that wound up getting stolen | 06:59 |
| Macer | n810s are like $200 nowadays | 06:59 |
| Macer | :) | 06:59 |
| zakkm | ive wanted the 770 since it came out in 2005 , like when it got annonced | 06:59 |
| zakkm | and it wasnt until like late 2008 till i owned one | 06:59 |
| Macer | there are like a billion cricket places popping up here | 06:59 |
| zakkm | heh | 06:59 |
| zakkm | wheres here | 06:59 |
| Macer | chicago | 07:00 |
| zakkm | $200 ,which i could afford that | 07:00 |
| zakkm | hah | 07:00 |
| Macer | i think every other day there is a new place selling cricket stuff | 07:00 |
| Macer | reminds me of primeco | 07:00 |
| zakkm | heh rising sport? | 07:00 |
| Macer | yeah. it's going to follow the same path though | 07:00 |
| Macer | sell cheap. build the customer base.. then screw everybody over | 07:00 |
| Macer | :) | 07:00 |
| acydlord | cricket as in the sport or the wireless carrier? | 07:01 |
| Macer | wireless carrier | 07:01 |
| zakkm | ooo | 07:01 |
| zakkm | i thought the sport hah | 07:01 |
| acydlord | ahh, they've been out here for years, they are huge on the west coast | 07:01 |
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| zakkm | i use Koodo :) | 07:01 |
| Macer | i lived in oceanside for years and never saw a cricket place | 07:01 |
| Macer | :) | 07:01 |
| zakkm | i live in toronto, canada | 07:01 |
| acydlord | allow me to refrain | 07:02 |
| zakkm | pay $25 a month ( $28 after tax ) i get everything i need | 07:02 |
| acydlord | they are huge in areas where people have bad credit | 07:02 |
| Macer | zakkm: that is how cricket is | 07:02 |
| zakkm | heh | 07:02 |
| Macer | i wonder what type of network they use | 07:02 |
| zakkm | just curious, what happens if yourlike 2 days late on cell bill? | 07:02 |
| acydlord | cricket uses cdma | 07:02 |
| zakkm | my cell bill was due on the 27th and its now the 29th | 07:02 |
| zakkm | i use cdma :D | 07:02 |
| Macer | ah. like sprint? | 07:02 |
| zakkm | cdma is getting huge | 07:03 |
| Macer | maybe they will have wimax support :-D (yeah right) | 07:03 |
| acydlord | yeah, except they only have a few towers or rent time on others and their service is rather spotty | 07:03 |
| zakkm | the next tablet is going to have 3g ? | 07:03 |
| acydlord | lol, they just got data this last year | 07:03 |
| Macer | i wonder why the japanese decided to bomb pearl harbor | 07:04 |
| zakkm | watch the movie and find out ;p | 07:04 |
| Macer | zakkm: it's supposed to | 07:04 |
| zakkm | it does. | 07:04 |
| Macer | zakkm: i am reading on wikipedia.. but i'm actually reading more abouthte bombings | 07:04 |
| zakkm | nobody saw it coming | 07:04 |
| Macer | oppenheimer had a huge head | 07:05 |
| Macer | he reminds me of brain from pinky and the brain | 07:05 |
| zakkm | pearl harbor was a brillant move | 07:05 |
| Macer | no it wasn't | 07:05 |
| Macer | they should have concentrated on China | 07:06 |
| Macer | just as germany shouldn't have opened a 2nd front against russia | 07:06 |
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| Macer | 70 million people died during ww2 | 07:08 |
| zakkm | Macer: and alot died after the war | 07:10 |
| zakkm | Macer: ww2 caused alot of problems, for one.. Hitler figured out how to counterfeit british money beautifully, and decided to do it, in order to screw up their currency / help win the war | 07:11 |
| zakkm | Macer: http://greenbackvillenumismatics.com/WWIIBernhardCounterfeit.aspx | 07:12 |
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| zakkm | Macer: books onit too http://www.amazon.com/Kruegers-Men-Secret-Counterfeit-Prisoners/dp/product-description/0316057002 | 07:12 |
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| zakkm | made over 200mil pounds a month. and in 1940 that was alot ;p | 07:14 |
| Macer | the size of the United States Navy was significantly increased and after the Japanese incursion into Indochina, the United States embargoed iron, steel and mechanical parts against Japan. | 07:21 |
| Macer | there's the reason :) | 07:21 |
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| thux | morning | 09:05 |
| RST38h | mourning. | 09:06 |
| luke-jr | night | 09:12 |
| chx | zakkm: have you managed to get rotate working? | 09:13 |
| zakkm | not at all, ive done it in the past though many times | 09:13 |
| zakkm | i didnt exactly put much thought into doing it this time | 09:14 |
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| thux | security experts claim to our leading newspaper reporter that you can see into web-server root just wiping out part of web-address? that cannot be true can't it? | 09:16 |
| zakkm | its not | 09:17 |
| zakkm | -.- | 09:17 |
| zakkm | theres htaccess blocking it | 09:17 |
| StsN800 | .seen stskeeps | 09:17 |
| thux | pity that reporters believe everything | 09:17 |
| StsN800 | ~seen stskeeps | 09:17 |
| infobot | stskeeps <n=chobits@84.238.11.16> was last seen on IRC in channel #maemo, 10h 30m 16s ago, saying: 'i get angry when the normal browser starts at the moment .. :P'. | 09:17 |
| StsN800 | hm | 09:17 |
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| StsN800 | when did i drop off the channel? | 09:18 |
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| zakkm | StsN800: do you use stylus or finger, for typing on n800? | 09:20 |
| StsN800 | thux, thanks | 09:22 |
| StsN800 | zakkm, mixed | 09:22 |
| zakkm | i meant purely typing, not surfng around/clicking | 09:24 |
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| StsN801 | random idea: tslib noticing through accelerometer that ones hand with stylus probably moved cos of shaking bus and adjusts accordingly | 10:18 |
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| aquatix | StsN801: stylus? O:) | 10:42 |
| * aquatix just uses his fat fingers | 10:42 | |
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| Myrtti | btw is there any ocr stuff for maemo yet? | 11:00 |
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| * RST38h moos | 11:18 | |
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| amr | is there a powerpoint viewew for maemo? | 11:34 |
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| tank-man | maybe openoffice, or print to pdf from ms office | 11:40 |
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| amr | hmm, good idea | 11:41 |
| amr | ty | 11:41 |
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| florian | good morning | 12:00 |
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| thopiekar | does anyone know why I get this output? http://pastebin.com/d5d233c42 .. I want to build mixxx of ubuntu's sources in my editor eclipse.. building by dpkg-buildpackage works and all deps are installed by apt-get build-deps mixxx .. so where is the problem and why are there errors although there should be any... | 13:02 |
| thopiekar | http://pastebin.com/d5d233c42 | 13:02 |
| * thopiekar works on -> http://garage.maemo.org/projects/tabletdj/ | 13:02 | |
| qwerty12 | hannesw: ping | 13:03 |
| hannesw | hi qwerty12 | 13:04 |
| hannesw | whats up? | 13:04 |
| qwerty12 | hey hannesw, just wondering if you've got your pywebkitgtk stuff uploaded somewhere? :) | 13:04 |
| hannesw | yes: http://www.henso.com/files/pywebkitgtk/ | 13:06 |
| hannesw | but I haven't done anything in a long time. | 13:06 |
| qwerty12 | No problem, thank you! | 13:06 |
| hannesw | you're welcome | 13:06 |
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| sanjay6976 | hi | 13:10 |
| thopiekar | qwerty12: aren't you so good in porting? which editor are you using? I'm using eclipse but I have the problem as described above? Can you help me please? | 13:10 |
| sanjay6976 | how to install "make" on my N810 | 13:11 |
| sanjay6976 | i want to run make command | 13:12 |
| qwerty12 | thopiekar: I suck at it. I use gedit and vim. | 13:13 |
| thopiekar | k | 13:13 |
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| * thopiekar hates diablo because of its old version of asound... in fremantle building portaudio19 works.. -.-' | 13:27 | |
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| Macer | blah. have to install adobe CS4 | 13:49 |
| nomis | Noooooo! | 13:53 |
| qwerty12 | I installed the CS4 Master Collection a few days ago. Took me an hour for it to finish >.< | 13:53 |
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| Macer | qwerty12: yeah. it does seem to take quite a while | 13:57 |
| Macer | but then again i'm installing off of the wifi | 13:58 |
| oDuda | hello ! | 13:58 |
| Macer | probably should have copied the image over first | 13:58 |
| Macer | CS4 seems huge | 13:59 |
| Macer | i should have just installed acrobat.. that is all i really need | 13:59 |
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| qwerty12 | Macer: Heh, don't fancy your chances then, this was an uncompressed 7z with setup running of the harddrive itself :P | 14:01 |
| qwerty12 | *off | 14:01 |
| Macer | oh. i'm installing on my mb using a dmg that's on my fileserver | 14:01 |
| Macer | it's been about 15 minutes and it's 1/3 :) | 14:02 |
| Macer | and all i needed was acrobat to tell you the truth. but i suppose i don't have much on the mb so i just decided to install all of it | 14:03 |
| Macer | i have to fly to california tommorrow and then back to chicago in the same day | 14:03 |
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| Macer | thank god they're non-stop flights | 14:03 |
| Macer | one flight goes to boston.. then to california from there. wtf is up with that? | 14:04 |
| Macer | and it's cheaper to take that flight than going straight from chicago to california | 14:04 |
| Macer | airlines don't make sense sometimes | 14:05 |
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| Macer | never realized how much crap is in CS4 | 14:07 |
| Macer | there's like 20 things it installs | 14:08 |
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| stskeepsie | harbaum: where in .dk are you atm? | 14:12 |
| harbaum | cabinn in | 14:13 |
| stskeepsie | k, we'll be there later today | 14:13 |
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| harbaum | just arrived, checking emails and getting the n810 a little charge | 14:13 |
| stskeepsie | at airport waiting for lcuk,johnx,r_you | 14:14 |
| harbaum | where are you? | 14:14 |
| harbaum | ok | 14:14 |
| stskeepsie | met qgil,marcell earlier and x-fade | 14:14 |
| harbaum | i thought about joining you, but waiting 3 hours at the airport was a little too long | 14:14 |
| stskeepsie | the last two are making it to hotel atm | 14:14 |
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| Macer | nambla meeting? | 14:19 |
| Macer | :) | 14:19 |
| stskeepsie | foff | 14:22 |
| RST38h | ehlo | 14:23 |
| qwerty12_N800 | helo | 14:24 |
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| qwerty12_N800 | stskeepsie: knock 'em dead with your presentation ;) | 14:24 |
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| Macer | blah. still installing. wtf | 14:31 |
| Macer | i just need to do 1 thing | 14:31 |
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| thopiekar | omfg! scratchbox's "cp" don't know the option "-t"! | 14:49 |
| thopiekar | is there a way to fix that? | 14:49 |
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| * thopiekar can't understand why sb is that buggy.. | 14:51 | |
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| suihkulokki | thopiekar: umm, you are aware that -t is a relatively new gnu extension? | 14:53 |
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| mikkov_ | screen d | 15:12 |
| thopiekar | suihkulokki: no.. so I have to edit these two lines.. right? | 15:12 |
| thopiekar | find $(CURDIR)/* -maxdepth 0 -not -path '$(DEB_BUILD_DIR)*' | \ | 15:12 |
| thopiekar | xargs cp -rlf -t $(DEB_BUILD_DIR)/$* | 15:12 |
| qwerty12_N800 | mikkov_: irssi user? ;) | 15:12 |
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| mikkov_ | yes, and also a screen user :) | 15:13 |
| qwerty12_N800 | hehe | 15:13 |
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| Pavlov | hrm | 15:23 |
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| * thopiekar is thinking about how to edit these two lines (http://pastebin.com/d45776a7) so that no "cp -t" will be used... | 15:25 | |
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| GAN8001 | Somebody want to go throw tomatoes at Alexey? :P | 15:34 |
| RST38h | GAN: Which one? | 15:35 |
| * RST38h has got two or three in tomato-throwing distance | 15:35 | |
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| GAN8001 | RST38h, for mentioning an iPhone on-list. ;) | 15:40 |
| qwerty12_N800 | GAN8001: for using an iPhone to post to maemo-community? | 15:40 |
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| qwerty12_N800 | Yep :p | 15:41 |
| GAN8001 | One should at least have enough shame to not mention it publicly. | 15:43 |
| GAN8001 | bergie, any chance on that fixed toolbar screenshot? | 15:43 |
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| andrewfblack | Hello | 15:55 |
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| stskeepsie | at hotel now | 16:04 |
| andrewfblack | Hey stskeepsie | 16:04 |
| Pavlov | you guys coming to the party thing tonight? | 16:04 |
| stskeepsie | yeah obviously | 16:05 |
| stskeepsie | im sponsoe | 16:05 |
| stskeepsie | red but wasnt on hotel list, lovely | 16:05 |
| Pavlov | cool | 16:05 |
| Pavlov | gonna be good i think | 16:05 |
| Pavlov | the building here is pretty cool | 16:06 |
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| stskeepsie | lo lbtN800 | 16:07 |
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| lbtN800 | hi | 16:08 |
| lbtN800 | big rooms... | 16:08 |
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| KotCzarny | hi | 16:11 |
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| fiferboy | lbtN800: Hi | 16:11 |
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| KotCzarny | is it worth to upgrade to diablo? | 16:12 |
| lbtN800 | hi fiferboy | 16:12 |
| lbtN800 | in cph | 16:12 |
| fiferboy | Nice! I hear there is a party tonight | 16:13 |
| lbtN800 | yeah | 16:15 |
| wazd | дщ ьфуьщ | 16:15 |
| wazd | jeez | 16:15 |
| wazd | lo maemo :) | 16:15 |
| Meizirkki | My n810 screen is now even more cracked >_< | 16:15 |
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| Meizirkki | ello wazd | 16:15 |
| fiferboy | lbtN800: I haven't been able to find that patch you were talking about, but I did come across a good argument for turning scrollPerPixel on by default | 16:15 |
| stskeepsie | lbt, will be 3 mins late | 16:15 |
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| RST38h | moo wazd | 16:41 |
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| JesperHansen | Checked in at Sleep in Heaven :-) | 16:42 |
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| qwerty12_N800 | That name sounds... ominious | 16:43 |
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| wazd | RST38h: heya | 16:45 |
| wazd | Vlad told me that Nokia canceled Clutter support for Maemo 5 apps, it will work only for desktop effects for now | 16:46 |
| wazd | Can anybody confirm? | 16:46 |
| JesperHansen | didn't Stskeeps_ decide to go out and eat or did the computer catch a cold | 16:46 |
| JesperHansen | along with lcuk which is Gary.. and... | 16:47 |
| wazd | Cause if it is - that's really kind of unfair | 16:47 |
| StsN800 | JesperHansen, yes, just left nørreport | 16:47 |
| StsN800 | we couldnt find you so | 16:48 |
| wazd | We spent a fricking load of time to make some cool things with Clutter | 16:48 |
| JesperHansen | StsN800: Said I had to leave you there to go to the other Hotel | 16:48 |
| RST38h | wazd: No way??? | 16:48 |
| RST38h | wazd: Drop this shitbomb onto t.m.o | 16:48 |
| wazd | RST38h: well, that was my words, just in russian and uncensored :) | 16:48 |
| RST38h | wazd: Then get some popcorn :) | 16:48 |
| wazd | StsN800: Can you please ask Quim or someone there if it's true | 16:49 |
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| RST38h | Although I can probably understand it from technical point of view | 16:49 |
| wazd | RST38h: well, I have an option that Vlad just missunderstood something | 16:50 |
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| StsN800 | JesperHansen, ah | 16:50 |
| StsN800 | wazd, will try | 16:50 |
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| RST38h | Somebody mentioned once that Clutter basically locks OpenGL API from everybody else when it is running | 16:50 |
| wazd | RST38h: Vlad said that there's the problem with hildon-desktop or something | 16:50 |
| RST38h | wazd: It may only be true for widgets | 16:50 |
| wazd | StsN800: thanks! Hows cph?) | 16:51 |
| RST38h | wazd: but still it is worth checking with Quim, just to see the expression on his face | 16:51 |
| wazd | RST38h: I'm really ok with canceling functions, shit happens, it's life, but I'm slightly pissed off cause we've done too much work on it | 16:52 |
| wazd | RST38h: especially Vlad | 16:52 |
| wazd | We've made some animated weather icons'n'stuff | 16:53 |
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| RST38h | Can't you do this without clutter? | 16:53 |
| RST38h | The easiest way would be to use giflib probably | 16:53 |
| RST38h | (avoid pnglib/mnglib, they are both pure horror) | 16:54 |
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| wazd | RST38h: I don't really know, our brains are in "God fucking damned!" mode right now) | 16:55 |
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| wazd | RST38h: and I think giflib can help, but it's a load of another work again | 16:56 |
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| RST38h | not much | 16:56 |
| RST38h | it makes playing gif animations real easy | 16:56 |
| wazd | RST38h: Clutter is like Flash, you move around objects, transform them, fade in/ont and other stuff | 16:56 |
| RST38h | it isn't like flash because it is built on top of glib | 16:57 |
| JesperHansen | StsN800: I might catch up with you later. Gotta visit some friends first though on the route. Where you at atm? | 16:57 |
| RST38h | flash is easy, glib stuff is hairy | 16:57 |
| wazd | RST38h: Our icons were not just a row of frames | 16:57 |
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| woglinde | wazd time to switch to qt and animation framework | 16:57 |
| wazd | RST38h: the were, hmm, like directed actions of tiny parts like drops and clouds | 16:57 |
| RST38h | wazd: Well, as far as moving objects around is concerned, you can just use my EMULib | 16:57 |
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| RST38h | wazd: it will even work on a plain fb0 so no changes made by Nokia to high level APIs will ever affect it | 16:58 |
| wazd | RST38h: It's not a big deal to switch or do something instead | 16:58 |
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| wazd | RST38h: the deal is to spend much time on something that became useless | 16:59 |
| RST38h | wazd: I think it is painfully clear by now that Nokia does not consider developers a priority | 16:59 |
| RST38h | wazd: It does its own app development and sometimes discloses related APIs to developers | 16:59 |
| RST38h | So, I would not rely on anything high level | 17:00 |
| StsN800 | JesperHansen, rådhuspladsen | 17:00 |
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| JesperHansen | StsN800: kk, I actually dont really know where that is on the map, but I'll find it. If there's anything I should know that you get to know from here, then give me a msg. on 60128903 | 17:04 |
| JesperHansen | Great weather in CPH, there's the Carnival this weekend with lightly dress samba girls. You're all missing out. | 17:04 |
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| danilocesar | Are someone here having problems to download GoogleMaps with Maemo Mapper? | 17:13 |
| Corsac | yeah, the url changes sometimes iirc | 17:14 |
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| stskeepsie | mm bacon burgers | 17:23 |
| danilocesar | Corsac: gnuit should release a new version so... lets wait | 17:24 |
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| chx | So.... is there any offline way to use the GPS...? | 17:36 |
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| RST38h | Maps application supplied by Nokia | 17:38 |
| RST38h | or predownloading maps into Maemo Mapper | 17:38 |
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| chx | hm, the Maps on the device said '7 days trial' | 17:39 |
| till- | the navigation | 17:40 |
| till- | not the maps | 17:40 |
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| RST38h | ignore the navigation crap | 17:41 |
| wjs_ltop | Navit works as well, if your in a location with good OSM maps | 17:41 |
| till- | wayfinder works quite well | 17:41 |
| till- | showing your position and the maps, just the navigation requires a license | 17:41 |
| wjs_ltop | Personally I don't find the GPS functionality as bad as it's made out to be on the N810.. Sure, sometimes it takes a bit of time to locate, but usually less then a minute. | 17:42 |
| mgedmin | if you're standing still | 17:43 |
| mgedmin | it's worse if you're moving | 17:43 |
| wjs_ltop | Navit gives you the navigation function. And seems to be actively developed. | 17:43 |
| chx | when i start the Map application it asks "continue navigation trial" / enter license key / purchase navigation | 17:43 |
| wjs_ltop | I haven't found the GPS function to loose signal, once it's aquired it. | 17:43 |
| chx | there does not seem to be a "go away" functionality :) | 17:43 |
| RST38h | mgedmin: worked fine for me when moving | 17:43 |
| RST38h | mgedmin: initial acquisition appears to be better when standing still | 17:43 |
| RST38h | chx: Ignore it | 17:44 |
| wjs_ltop | I did find that if you don't have your time set correctly, it takes much longer to aquire. | 17:44 |
| wjs_ltop | signal lock. | 17:44 |
| wjs_ltop | Has anybody tried the new gps daemon that I see available in the packages? Does it work better? | 17:45 |
| RST38h | it is written in python, right? | 17:45 |
| qwerty12_N800 | the frontend is iirc | 17:45 |
| wjs_ltop | Don't know, just noticed it, but was too chicken to install it.. | 17:45 |
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| qwerty12_N800 | Does anyone know if the program that provides the pairing dialog is open source? It sets HILDON_GTK_INPUT_MODE_NUMERIC which is useless when your GPS's passcode is NAVMAN :) | 17:54 |
| coldboot|home | Is there anyone who has been able to get remote debugging working on the n810, or debugging working in Scratchbox 2? | 17:54 |
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| coldboot|home | If so, how did you do it? | 17:54 |
| lopz | hola | 17:54 |
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| coldboot|home | I've got remote debugging working on the n810, but for some reason it won't set breakpoints in some arbitrary Qt functions, but some others work fine. | 17:57 |
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| coldboot|home | Debugging on Scratchbox doesn't work at all, it won't set any breakpoints and the documentation is useless. | 17:57 |
| coldboot|home | It says you have to link in the threading library that your program uses. In my case it's pthreads, but linking that into the maemo custom gdb 6.6 by typing -lpthreads into the Makefile manually doesn't change anything. | 17:58 |
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| woglinde | coldboot you could use ddd | 17:59 |
| woglinde | for graphical stuff | 17:59 |
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| chx | hey this thingie , even if nothing else, is a great Skype phone | 18:08 |
| chx | pity it does not do video in Skype :( | 18:08 |
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| gomiam | chx: true, true... at least it does through GTalk | 18:09 |
| chx | rly? intersting! | 18:10 |
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| toggles_w | and with ekiga if you can ever get it to register, yet to make it work with empathy though | 18:13 |
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| Macer | samurai gun is almost as dumb | 18:29 |
| Macer | oops | 18:29 |
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| mib_n14gax | In gtk2.0 how to find the api reference? | 18:35 |
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| mib_n14gax | when i want to find a function's function and find the discription relative to it,how i should do? | 18:36 |
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| Jaffa | Af'noon | 18:39 |
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| * thopiekar is tried of sb1 and all that buggy tools.. | 18:41 | |
| * thopiekar dreams of full dev-environment without stupid 3rd-party-tools like sb1's | 18:42 | |
| coldboot|home | woglinde: Have you used it before? It is a graphical bug. | 18:42 |
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| chx | Skype cant do text chats while phoning? | 18:46 |
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| RST38h | windoze version can | 18:48 |
| thux | does /proc/cpuinfo show current real cpu speed? | 18:51 |
| dneary | Jaffa: Ping? | 18:51 |
| dneary | GAN800: Ping? | 18:51 |
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| Jaffa | dneary: pong | 18:55 |
| dneary | Jaffa: What do you expect from brainstorm moderators? | 18:58 |
| dneary | Jaffa: How many, and who do you think is best placed to do it? | 18:58 |
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| woglinde | coldboot hm? | 18:59 |
| Jaffa | dneary: andre is an obvious candidate. I'd expect them to be merging similar, trying to keep one item per "brainstorm", closing/deleting spam or abusive things, helping tease out the actual meat | 18:59 |
| Jaffa | dneary: There're a couple of levels in there, but a lot of it overlaps with the exact role of the bugsmaster | 19:00 |
| Jaffa | (IMHO) | 19:00 |
| dneary | OK - so if it's growing out of bugzilla, sjgadsby would be another obvious candidate | 19:00 |
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| * Jaffa nods | 19:00 | |
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| dneary | I've been pushing Henri to have the same technical way of operation as Ubuntu | 19:00 |
| Jaffa | Is there a handy dandy URL describing how they do it? | 19:00 |
| dneary | Submitted ideas go into a moderator queue, and get published once 2 moderators approve them | 19:00 |
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| dneary | Jaffa: No, I've been looking for their guidelines all afternoon | 19:01 |
| Jaffa | dneary: gah | 19:02 |
| coldboot | woglinde: ddd is just a frontend to gdb, now that I remember, that won't help at all. | 19:02 |
| coldboot | It seems like barely anyone actually seriously writes software for this device. | 19:03 |
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| dneary | Jaffa: I think that there aren't any guidelines on moderator behaviour, I'm wondering whether any are needed | 19:06 |
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| dneary | Jaffa: I guess I wasn't looking very hard :} | 19:13 |
| dneary | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Brainstorm/BrainstormModerators | 19:13 |
| dneary | http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/faq/ | 19:13 |
| dneary | https://lists.launchpad.net/brainstorm-moderators | 19:13 |
| woglinde | coldboot hm are there qt-dbg packages? | 19:13 |
| dneary | http://ubuntuforums.org/group.php?groupid=276 | 19:13 |
| woglinde | coldboot maybee antonio strip to many debug symbols in the packages | 19:14 |
| coldboot | woglinde: Yeah I've got libqt4-dbg installed. | 19:14 |
| woglinde | hm | 19:14 |
| woglinde | then I have no clue too | 19:14 |
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| coldboot | It's a lot more complicated than that. | 19:22 |
| coldboot | In scratchbox apparently you have to compile your own gdb and link in the threading library your program uses. | 19:22 |
| coldboot | However there's no documentation on how to do that, and nobody answers questions here. | 19:22 |
| bacon | nobody ever needs to go that far | 19:23 |
| coldboot | If you're writing software, eventually you end up using a debugger to debug. | 19:23 |
| bacon | i dont | 19:23 |
| coldboot | You've never used one before? | 19:24 |
| bacon | yeah use one every day in vb | 19:24 |
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| bacon | but in linux and c no | 19:24 |
| bacon | i just code defensively and write many logs | 19:24 |
| coldboot | I've got this bug where whenever you click something in Qt that inherits from a QAbstractItemView (ie any sort of table), the screen flashes and you see tearing. | 19:24 |
| coldboot | It makes no sense at all. | 19:25 |
| bacon | this screen tears anyway for everyone but lcuk so meh | 19:25 |
| coldboot | It doesn't tear in any other situation. | 19:25 |
| bacon | have you got new hardware then? | 19:26 |
| coldboot | It does it on all of the 6 nokia n810 devices we have here, and all instances of Scratchbox 2. | 19:27 |
| coldboot | It's not a hardware problem. | 19:27 |
| coldboot | Writing a simple Qt application from scratch doesn't exhibit the same behaviour when clicking a QAbstractItemView, so it's something with our application. | 19:27 |
| bacon | but the screen refresh tears on all 8x0 devices | 19:27 |
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| coldboot | It's not just simple tearing, you see quite significant artifacts on the screen, like horizontal white bars. | 19:28 |
| bacon | of course there might be something emphasising it more for you | 19:28 |
| bacon | lbt had that | 19:28 |
| bacon | he raised a qt bug about it | 19:28 |
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| coldboot | Do you have that bug number or a link? | 19:29 |
| coldboot | I wasn't able to find anything related, because this sort of thing is so hard to search for. | 19:29 |
| bacon | i have nothing i am halfway round the world from my house | 19:29 |
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| bacon | but lbt is 3 rooms away | 19:29 |
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| coldboot | Three rooms away from you? | 19:30 |
| lbtN800 | a qt bug... nah | 19:30 |
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| coldboot | I definitely don't think it's a Qt bug if I can't reproduce it in a blank Qt program with a QAbstractItemView child. | 19:30 |
| lbtN800 | wassup coldboot | 19:31 |
| coldboot | Hey lbtN800 | 19:31 |
| * lbtN800 isnt good on n800 | 19:31 | |
| coldboot | Do you know how to get gdb working in Scratchbox 2 with a Qt app (implying it has pthreads), or remotely on the n810? | 19:32 |
| lbtN800 | ah | 19:32 |
| lbtN800 | i ran ddd on tablet | 19:32 |
| lbtN800 | it hurts | 19:32 |
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| bacon | omg more scab | 19:33 |
| lbtN800 | i decided qdebug was saner | 19:33 |
| coldboot | Is qdebug based on gdb at all? | 19:33 |
| lbtN800 | nah it's more derived from prtintf | 19:33 |
| lbtN800 | ;) | 19:34 |
| coldboot | So you can't set breakpoints? | 19:34 |
| lbtN800 | no it really is print | 19:34 |
| coldboot | Okay that's useless then. | 19:35 |
| lbtN800 | heh ymmv | 19:35 |
| lbtN800 | gdb works on tablet | 19:36 |
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| johnx | lcuk, get down here ;p | 19:37 |
| lbtN800 | k | 19:37 |
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| johnx | people are starting to head out | 19:39 |
| suihkulokki | lbtN800, coldboot, qemu linux-user doesn't support ptrace syscall | 19:39 |
| coldboot | suihkulokki: What are the implications of that? | 19:40 |
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| suihkulokki | coldboot: gdb, strace and other tools that use ptrace won't work | 19:41 |
| johnx | lcuk, get down here ;p | 19:41 |
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| johnx | lcuk, get down here ;p lbt is here with us | 19:42 |
| coldboot | suihkulokki: Why is there a Scratchbox 2 debugging guide telling you how to use gdb in Scratchbox 2, then? | 19:42 |
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| coldboot | Here's the guide: http://maemo-sdk.garage.maemo.org/sdk-plus-debugging-guide.html | 19:43 |
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| coldboot | Under this heading: "Debugging issues with Scratchbox-2" | 19:43 |
| coldboot | Are you sure ptrace won't work with qemu? | 19:45 |
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| coldboot | gdb doesn't even work on this stupid device. | 19:49 |
| coldboot | It just fhangs there indefinitely. | 19:49 |
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| coldboot | No wait, it gets killed and the device reboots. | 19:50 |
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| suihkulokki | coldboot: it works in sb2 on x86 targets | 20:00 |
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| coldboot | suihkulokki: That's what I'm attempting to get it working on, however it doesn't work when you have threads. | 20:19 |
| coldboot | suihkulokki: The guide says to link gdb with the thread library you're using, and Qt uses pthreads. I tried that, but I get the same results. | 20:19 |
| coldboot | suihkulokki: Have you successfully got sb2 debugging a Qt program with gdb? | 20:20 |
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| coldboot | suihkulokki: I take it you haven't used gdb for a program with threads in sb2? | 20:59 |
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| amr | i havent been able to get a gps signal since ive had my n810 lol | 21:08 |
| amr | ive walked to the library which takes 10 mins, and i didnt get a signal | 21:08 |
| amr | i walked back from my exam which took 20/30 | 21:08 |
| amr | and i didnt get a signal | 21:08 |
| ShadowJK | diablo with a-gps installed? :) | 21:08 |
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| GAN800 | How's hacking? | 21:13 |
| Proteous | my n97 should be shipping out today | 21:13 |
| zakkm | GAN800: are you at the danish weekend? | 21:13 |
| * Myrtti still wants N96 | 21:13 | |
| Proteous | complete with super nokiausa.com web bug discount | 21:13 |
| Myrtti | er | 21:13 |
| GAN800 | zakkm, nope | 21:13 |
| Myrtti | N86 | 21:13 |
| zakkm | are you not going, or did it not start already? | 21:13 |
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| GAN800 | Proteus, aren't you gonna feel silly if Rover comes out next month. :p | 21:14 |
| GAN800 | zakkm, not going. | 21:14 |
| Proteous | GAN, depends on the phone functionality of Rover | 21:14 |
| zakkm | ah | 21:14 |
| Proteous | maybe... | 21:14 |
| Proteous | heh | 21:14 |
| Proteous | but since I got my n97 at sucha steap discount I could just sell it on ebay and make a profit | 21:15 |
| Myrtti | Proteous: how much? | 21:15 |
| GAN800 | under 500 | 21:16 |
| Proteous | I got $244 off the MSRP and a free $80 bluetooth headset | 21:16 |
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| * Myrtti cries | 21:16 | |
| zakkm | you guys know the nokia 9300? | 21:16 |
| zakkm | 9300 smartphone, with symbian? | 21:17 |
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| Myrtti | zakkm: the log? | 21:17 |
| zakkm | http://blogs.ittefaq.com/tech/archives/nokia_9300-thumb.jpg | 21:17 |
| ShadowJK | is that like... Series80? | 21:17 |
| zakkm | yeah | 21:17 |
| Myrtti | oh, that's not even a log | 21:17 |
| zakkm | friend and i got a nokia 770 + that for $120 ... he went and sold that on craigslist for $150 hah | 21:17 |
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| coldboot | The n810s go for like $180. | 21:21 |
| coldboot | Oh wait, 770 is different completely. | 21:21 |
| ShadowJK | hey I saw a N800 on display in a brick and mortar store last week | 21:21 |
| zakkm | it was over a year ago. | 21:21 |
| zakkm | im just talking about the phone | 21:21 |
| zakkm | getting cheap and selling online fo rprofit | 21:21 |
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| * jeremiah_ On the train to Copenhagen. | 21:28 | |
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| jeremiah_ | It will be cool to see people like X-Fade and stskeepsie in RL | 21:28 |
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| Jaffa | jeremiah_: have fun :) | 21:29 |
| Jaffa | Have a beer for me | 21:29 |
| jeremiah_ | Just hope someone has a charger for my N810 since I left mine at home. | 21:29 |
| jeremiah_ | Jaffa: I promise to have a beer for your :) | 21:29 |
| Jaffa | I'd *guess* there may be one or two ;-) | 21:29 |
| GAN800 | Who brought a trout to go Nokian bashing? ;) | 21:29 |
| jeremiah_ | If there is no beer, I'm going home | 21:30 |
| jeremiah_ | GAN800: Trout? | 21:30 |
| GAN800 | You didn't hear? It's BYOC. ;) | 21:30 |
| Myrtti | GAN800: shouldn't it be a wellie? | 21:30 |
| Myrtti | :-P | 21:30 |
| GAN800 | wellie? | 21:30 |
| jeremiah_ | GAN800: Bring your own C? | 21:30 |
| t_s_o | hmm, beta4 of garnetvm? | 21:31 |
| Jaffa | t_s_o: so it'd appear | 21:31 |
| GAN800 | Charger. ;) | 21:31 |
| Myrtti | GAN800: https://www.ulkoilukauppa.com/tuotekuvat/2767_reef_green.jpg | 21:31 |
| Myrtti | :-D | 21:31 |
| jeremiah_ | Ah! | 21:31 |
| tank-man | t_s_o, you got an email? | 21:31 |
| * jeremiah_ is slow in the head | 21:31 | |
| t_s_o | tank-man: yep | 21:31 |
| GAN800 | Ha, right! | 21:31 |
| * RST38h moos slightly | 21:32 | |
| t_s_o | hmm, the link is to elabs5.com... | 21:32 |
| t_s_o | sheesh, they want to do the registration loop again?! why not include a "existing user" code in the mail? | 21:33 |
| GAN800 | The 5800's inertial scrolling is a cruel joke. | 21:33 |
| GAN800 | It's like the page is sliding on sandpaper. | 21:34 |
| ShadowJK | I guess it's an improvement from Tear's accidental light-speed :-) | 21:34 |
| GAN800 | I hope we get some trickledown from the N97 | 21:34 |
| jeremiah_ | Myrtti: Nice boots. | 21:34 |
| GAN800 | webkit-eal's is perfect with a small tweak. | 21:34 |
| ShadowJK | GAN800, based on their past performance, I'd doubt it :-) | 21:34 |
| GAN800 | ShadowJK, one more thing that thoroughly pisses me off about Symbian | 21:35 |
| tank-man | t_s_o, use your old dl link from last year or whenever, it links to the new beta | 21:35 |
| GAN800 | Product teirs should not be software-based. | 21:35 |
| ShadowJK | You know, it's much more pleasant to go from Symbian to Maemo :) | 21:35 |
| t_s_o | tank-man: didnt save the mail from that far back... | 21:35 |
| tank-man | gmail :) | 21:35 |
| tank-man | :P | 21:35 |
| t_s_o | yeah right, and just hand over my personal life to them in the process | 21:36 |
| zakkm | maemo its that hard ;p | 21:37 |
| zakkm | isnt * | 21:37 |
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| Myrtti | t_s_o: come, come to the dark side, we have 7.3 gig mailboxes and COOKIES! | 21:38 |
| Myrtti | nowait | 21:38 |
| wjs_ltop | amr: is your time/date/timezone set correctly? | 21:38 |
| wjs_ltop | amr: if you go into the Map application there is an icon like a satellite, If you click on that It should show you things.. | 21:39 |
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| jeremiah_ | oh jeez, how um, modern. We have a twitter tag for the CPH weekend - mozmae | 21:41 |
| zakkm | the map application is so cool :P | 21:42 |
| jeremiah_ | Now crossing over the oresund bridge from Sweden into Denmark. | 21:42 |
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| t_s_o | cute, i think garnetvm just crashed my tablet... | 21:45 |
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| tank-man | t_s_o, new expiry date is november 30, 2009 | 21:46 |
| jeremiah_ | -c | 21:47 |
| jeremiah_ | And by that I mean /c :) | 21:47 |
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| zakkm | theres a new garnet vm | 21:55 |
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| ShadowJK | GAN800, the symbian signed thing is however the best part, way to kill freeware software alltogether :-) | 21:58 |
| ShadowJK | or instead of freeware, let's say hobbyist | 21:59 |
| ShadowJK | hobbyist freeware | 21:59 |
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| t_s_o | ShadowJK: just like any other level of control, it was put there to stop someone from doing something undesierable, like say a over the air stealth install of some program that would copy the devices address book++ | 22:10 |
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| qwerty12_N800 | It was there because most of the shareware/commercial programs available were cracked & distributed so easily. there must've been quite a few 0days... | 22:13 |
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| amr | wjs_ltop, the date/time/timezone are all set correctly | 22:13 |
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| amr | and it shows uh, levels? | 22:13 |
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| amr | 19:07 <ShadowJK> diablo with a-gps installed? :) | 22:15 |
| amr | pardon? | 22:15 |
| amr | if diablo is version 5.2008.43- | 22:16 |
| amr | yes | 22:16 |
| amr | *43- | 22:16 |
| amr | *43-7 | 22:16 |
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| ShadowJK | amr: yeah.. installing a-gps might help | 22:43 |
| ShadowJK | you install it, and first time you set your approximate position | 22:43 |
| ShadowJK | there's also something on the forums about deleting nvd_data, might wanna search | 22:44 |
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| marcelo_ | someone knows why this page is not working? http://test.maemo.org//downloads/d1.php | 22:48 |
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| mmorais | ? | 22:48 |
| jeremiah_ | stskeepsie: ping | 22:49 |
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| Guest0317_390 | how to create a .install file from my application for future in download section? | 22:51 |
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| jeremiah_ | Guest0317_390: I think there is a link on the wiki about install files. I should look that up for you. | 22:51 |
| jeremiah_ | Jaffa How has the JavaOne been so far? | 22:52 |
| Guest0317_390 | ok tx i wait | 22:52 |
| jeremiah_ | drats, just missed him | 22:52 |
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