| erstazi | DaniloCesar: not sure on that | 00:01 |
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| erstazi | DaniloCesar: I am looking in applications.menu, I think its listed there | 00:01 |
| erstazi | but i have to scp it over | 00:01 |
| erstazi | and make new lines to the node I want | 00:01 |
| erstazi | tana_fi_web | 00:02 |
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| erstazi | but that doesn't make sense | 00:02 |
| erstazi | try typing browser | 00:02 |
| erstazi | nada here | 00:02 |
| ekim|irc | can I install MicroB on os2006 ? | 00:03 |
| erstazi | ekim|irc: yes | 00:03 |
| erstazi | actually | 00:03 |
| erstazi | try minimo | 00:03 |
| erstazi | minimo? | 00:03 |
| _Monkey | i guess minimo is (Mini Mozilla) Web browser, a slimmed down version of mozilla browser aiming resource reduced devices. http://maemo.org/downloads/product/minimo/ | 00:03 |
| erstazi | I never tried MicroB | 00:03 |
| Blacksitox | re | 00:03 |
| ekim|irc | which is better | 00:03 |
| erstazi | ekim|irc: do you want my sources.list? http://c-wd.net/maemo/sources.list | 00:03 |
| ekim|irc | MicroB or Minimo and whats the difference | 00:03 |
| ekim|irc | Yeah | 00:03 |
| erstazi | ekim|irc: I never tried MicroB so I cannot give a suggestion | 00:03 |
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| ekim|irc | Dang | 00:04 |
| ekim|irc | How many apps do you have erstazi ? | 00:04 |
| ekim|irc | lol | 00:04 |
| erstazi | ekim|irc: well, before I flashed, I had a lot, then I had to flash because a bad package I made /: | 00:05 |
| erstazi | ekim|irc: do you know how to get that sources.list onto your nokia? I can walk you through | 00:05 |
| sp3000 | ekim|irc: http://browser.garage.maemo.org/news/6/ | 00:05 |
| erstazi | you need (all these terms are in _Monkey) xterm, becomeroot, openssh | 00:05 |
| ekim|irc | well...I obviously have xterm and becomeroot because i am bootinf from mmc | 00:06 |
| erstazi | I think I have _Monkey setup to respond to openssh's howto install it, it has information on where the install is and the one thing you need to do to get it working, other wise openssh is very easy to install | 00:06 |
| ekim|irc | I like dropbear better then openssh | 00:06 |
| erstazi | ekim|irc: ok | 00:06 |
| ekim|irc | anything else | 00:06 |
| ekim|irc | I wonder whats up with MicroB | 00:06 |
| erstazi | ekim|irc: do you prefer vi? or do you want nano? | 00:07 |
| ekim|irc | anyone used it | 00:07 |
| ekim|irc | neither | 00:07 |
| ekim|irc | vim | 00:07 |
| erstazi | ok | 00:07 |
| ekim|irc | I like nano too | 00:07 |
| erstazi | nano? | 00:07 |
| _Monkey | it has been said that nano is a tiny text editor. Needs xterm/ssh. http://maemo.org/downloads/product/nano/ | 00:07 |
| timelE61 | what do you mean up? | 00:07 |
| timelE61 | i'm currently rearranging bugs.maemo | 00:07 |
| erstazi | timelE61: ekim|irc is wondering if MicroB is better than minimo | 00:07 |
| ekim|irc | if I use your sources.list I can get all that sutff | 00:07 |
| ekim|irc | yeah...how is it different | 00:07 |
| erstazi | ekim|irc: yes | 00:07 |
| timelE61 | Minimo has serious text input issues | 00:07 |
| erstazi | timelE61: I did notice that | 00:08 |
| ekim|irc | Can I run microB on os2006 | 00:08 |
| timelE61 | microb will work better w/ platform elements | 00:08 |
| sp3000 | ekim|irc: http://browser.garage.maemo.org/news/6/ (going twice) | 00:08 |
| ekim|irc | sorry | 00:08 |
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| sp3000 | sold! | 00:09 |
| erstazi | sp3000: thank you, I will use that as well | 00:09 |
| qgil | erstazi: http://maemo.org/community/wiki/orphans/ looks *very* good now | 00:09 |
| erstazi | qgil: yes, you are much faster than I am | 00:10 |
| erstazi | qgil: you must have a very large resolution or such, are you greater than 1280x1024? | 00:10 |
| erstazi | qgil: I end up reading some of these orphaned articles... some are quite worth keeping | 00:10 |
| qgil | erstazi: that's my resolution - but if I'm fast I guess it's because I know better what can be deleted | 00:10 |
| qgil | erstazi: I'm not thinking, whatever is worth goes to the main page , ikn case of doubts WikiReorg, the rest... aftermath | 00:11 |
| qgil | erstazi: and indeed, there are many more interesting pages than I thought, this cleaning is very almost enlightning to em | 00:11 |
| qgil | me | 00:11 |
| erstazi | qgil: same here, as I said, I would really like to work on a section on the main wiki page about porting | 00:12 |
| erstazi | and maybe have some fellow scratchboxers help out with some information | 00:12 |
| qgil | erstazi: I'm going to pick from N800DeveloperDeviceProgram to OS2007 Tested Applications since they look like semiofficial, you pick the rest? | 00:12 |
| erstazi | I am not completely knowledgeable about scratchbox like I would like so it would be very expanding for me | 00:13 |
| timelE61 | 0.2005.40 = 1.0 ? | 00:13 |
| erstazi | qgil: definitely, I can do more if you like | 00:13 |
| timelE61 | qgil? | 00:13 |
| qgil | timelE61: yes, my dear party animal | 00:13 |
| zwnj | i get post-install errors on installing openssh-server. i'm fixing them by hand, but is it a package problem? | 00:14 |
| erstazi | zwnj: what are the errors? | 00:15 |
| zwnj | erstazi: one was about the 'sshd' user | 00:15 |
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| zwnj | and the other one is on sshd_config | 00:16 |
| erstazi | zwnj: it might be or you missed a step | 00:16 |
| erstazi | openssh? | 00:16 |
| _Monkey | openssh is a FREE version of the SSH connectivity tools that technical users of the Internet rely on. http://maemo.org/downloads/product/openssh/ | 00:16 |
| erstazi | hmmm | 00:16 |
| zwnj | well, i tried to install openssh-server, before removing dropbear-server | 00:16 |
| erstazi | zwnj: that might be a conflict then | 00:17 |
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| sully | hmm, am I not supposed to use my Garage account to edit the Wiki? | 00:17 |
| zwnj | i removed dropbear, but i get errors on --reinstall yet | 00:17 |
| zwnj | i'm trying to clean-up things | 00:17 |
| zwnj | just wanted to check if others have same problems... | 00:17 |
| erstazi | sully: not sure about that one | 00:18 |
| timelE61 | 5.2006.13==? | 00:18 |
| erstazi | sully: are you attacking the orphans as well? if so please tell me or qgil, I don't want a submit conflict issue | 00:18 |
| sully | erstazi, I'd like to but I can't seem to log in and find the edit view | 00:18 |
| erstazi | sully: do you have javascript enabled? make sure its https:// and not http:// | 00:19 |
| qgil | sully: your garage account should work - when did you created it, now or a wgile ago? | 00:19 |
| sully | I just created it ~5 minutes ago | 00:19 |
| timelE61 | qgil? | 00:19 |
| qgil | sully: then wait - but we will get rid of the orphans before | 00:19 |
| sully | okay | 00:19 |
| qgil | timelE61: 5.2006.13==? no idea, but sounds = IT OS 2006 and that's it | 00:20 |
| qgil | timelE61: are you talking about maemo versions? | 00:20 |
| timelE61 | itos2006se had its own listing :/ | 00:20 |
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| qgil | timelE61: sorry I don't know the ruight answer then | 00:21 |
| sp3000 | can you do "OS2006 5.2006.13" or something repetitively silly like that? or does that run into too much truncation | 00:22 |
| timelE61 | sp3000: any idea what it is? | 00:23 |
| timelE61 | qgil said x.y | 00:23 |
| timelE61 | maybe 2.1? | 00:23 |
| sp3000 | http://repository.maemo.org/ has one list to match to | 00:23 |
| sp3000 | # maemo 1.0 (Nokia 770) # maemo 1.1 (Nokia 770) # maemo 2.0 'mistral' (Nokia 770) # maemo 2.1 'scirocco' (Nokia 770) # maemo 2.2 'gregale' for Nokia 770 development | 00:24 |
| qgil | sp3000: I'd say the idea for non-maemo (development= components i.e. apps is to point to IT OS 200* without getting into much details | 00:25 |
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| erstazi | qgil: I got 3 left | 00:26 |
| erstazi | s/3/2/ | 00:27 |
| infobot | erstazi meant: qgil: I got 2 left | 00:27 |
| qgil | erstazi: I think I stepped on one edit sicne I still see 3 :) | 00:27 |
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| erstazi | yeah | 00:27 |
| erstazi | qgil: /me thinks so too | 00:27 |
| qgil | https://maemo.org/community/wiki/lithiumionbatteryusage/ is for power users | 00:28 |
| erstazi | qgil: surprisingly, thats the only second time that this has happened | 00:28 |
| erstazi | ah | 00:28 |
| erstazi | ok moving that | 00:28 |
| qgil | well, I had to do some re-edits ;) | 00:28 |
| * sp3000 tries to figure out if qgil was making a pun, there | 00:29 | |
| erstazi | qgil: my mistakes? heh | 00:29 |
| qgil | https://maemo.org/community/wiki/multimediacard/ needs editing, I can do this now - it is for normal users | 00:29 |
| erstazi | ok | 00:29 |
| qgil | https://maemo.org/community/wiki/mydocs/ for power users | 00:30 |
| erstazi | qgil: putting into normal users | 00:30 |
| qgil | sp3000: I wish I could remember who are you in real life :) | 00:30 |
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| erstazi | qgil: its done | 00:33 |
| erstazi | qgil: oprhans is cleaned... do you want me to start working on the re organized part? editing some articles? | 00:34 |
| erstazi | qgil: btw, I manage a few wiki's myself, two business ones and a few personal/channel ones | 00:34 |
| sp3000 | qgil: tuukka tolvanen is my secret identity | 00:35 |
| sp3000 | s/secret/superhero/ | 00:36 |
| infobot | sp3000 meant: qgil: tuukka tolvanen is my superhero identity | 00:36 |
| sp3000 | or, uh, something | 00:36 |
| _Monkey | rumour has it something is wacky here | 00:36 |
| kupesoft | Can I download maps for offline browsing with Maemo mapper? | 00:36 |
| sp3000 | yes | 00:36 |
| erstazi | kupesoft: its in the menu of MaemoMapper | 00:36 |
| kupesoft | erstazi: Can I download like all of North America? | 00:36 |
| kupesoft | erstazi: I'll check it out, I left me n800 in the car ;p | 00:37 |
| sp3000 | it'll probably fit on a floppy with the rest of the internet :) | 00:37 |
| qgil | erstazi: edited the multimedia card table page | 00:37 |
| qgil | WE ARE DONE WITH THE ORPHANS!!!! | 00:37 |
| qgil | cool | 00:37 |
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| * qgil sent no pun to sp3000 | 00:37 | |
| erstazi | qgil: ok, do you want me to start working on the re organized part? editing some articles? | 00:37 |
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| qgil | erstazi: so, I'll tell you my plans as maemo guy with this wiki | 00:38 |
| erstazi | ok | 00:38 |
| qgil | erstazi: 1. http://maemo.org/community/wiki/ Now that we know the useful pages that currently the wiki has - http://maemo.org/community/wiki/ I wanted to organize them in a different way, by topic: multimedia, connectivity, etc | 00:39 |
| erstazi | ok | 00:40 |
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| erstazi | qgil: do you have a purposed outline structure? | 00:40 |
| qgil | we are going to implement these topics across the maemo official documentation as well, to leave behind the organization by content type | 00:40 |
| qgil | making the latter work with the tags | 00:40 |
| erstazi | ok | 00:40 |
| qgil | erstazi: yes, I have, but in the office - I will apply it on Monday since I don't trust my memory on weekends | 00:41 |
| qgil | (nor I do the rest of the week, btw) | 00:41 |
| erstazi | heh | 00:41 |
| erstazi | qgil: ok, well I can start rewriting some articles and creating articles | 00:41 |
| qgil | wait | 00:41 |
| erstazi | ok | 00:41 |
| qgil | 2. http://maemo.org/community/wiki/wikireorg/ needs a narrow look now to see what we really want to save | 00:41 |
| erstazi | ok | 00:42 |
| qgil | either as official docs under Development/Documentation | 00:42 |
| qgil | or updated wiki pages | 00:42 |
| qgil | what we do with the pages in non-English | 00:42 |
| qgil | and all the rest---> delete | 00:42 |
| erstazi | ok | 00:42 |
| erstazi | anything else? | 00:43 |
| qgil | 3. the http://maemo.org/community/wiki/pagestodelete/ need to be actually deleted, a monkey's work for a monkey with admin rights - I will find a volunteer in-house | 00:43 |
| erstazi | ah | 00:43 |
| Jaffa | Yay, my proper response has appeared on Gustavo's blog :) | 00:43 |
| qgil | and from this point to me the wiki content is done by the maemo-core side, leaving totally the rest of the initiative to the community | 00:43 |
| erstazi | qgil: isn't midguard have its content/data in databases? | 00:44 |
| qgil | erstazi: then, before you write/improve anything in the wiki seriously | 00:44 |
| erstazi | qgil: nix that last statement, I am not with it right now | 00:44 |
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| qgil | erstazi: make sure you get a grasp of the good content at http://www.internettablettalk.com/wiki/ | 00:44 |
| * erstazi listens | 00:44 | |
| qgil | not to repeat work | 00:44 |
| erstazi | qgil: good point | 00:45 |
| qgil | erstazi: midgard is like a CMS put on top of a database and a control system - why you ask? | 00:45 |
| erstazi | qgil: is it acceptable to copy the content and note it came from there? | 00:45 |
| qgil | erstazi: don't ask me, ask itt | 00:45 |
| qgil | erstazi: if you ask the community wiki editor in me I would tell you that if a page is good, better link to it | 00:46 |
| erstazi | qgil: the statement about midguard, just ignore, I wasn't thinking (I develop CMS/DBMS) and my point was if its not linked in the wiki anymore, you could just delete the data | 00:46 |
| erstazi | qgil: right | 00:46 |
| erstazi | qgil: figured so | 00:46 |
| DaniloCesar | Bye! | 00:47 |
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| qgil | erstazi: I'm going to blog about this - and then sleep | 00:47 |
| erstazi | qgil: have a good sleep (: | 00:47 |
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| qgil | erstazi: I see a lot of enthusiasm between your lines - are you aware of https://maemo.org/news and the capacity to push news to the top - and making them stay there more days | 00:47 |
| qgil | this is my next battle now that the wiki (and hopefully bugzilla) are in better shape | 00:48 |
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| erstazi | qgil: yes, and news is a good platform for this project | 00:48 |
| qgil | ok | 00:48 |
| erstazi | ok, I got some more svn commits to attack | 00:50 |
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| erstazi | qgil: keep me informed with anymore I will attack the rest later probably tonight | 00:51 |
| qgil | erstazi: I have no more recommendation for volunteers as for today :) | 00:51 |
| erstazi | qgil: then monday night I will be awaiting (: | 00:52 |
| qgil | erstazi: really, about the wiki you can push wherever you feel without anybody telling you :) | 00:53 |
| erstazi | qgil: I understand, thats part of collaboration | 00:54 |
| erstazi | qgil: could I use the test.maemo.org/wiki for testing? | 00:54 |
| qgil | erstazi: mmmno, that's dead - what do you want to test? | 00:54 |
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| kupesoft | The n800 is so flaky when it comes to powering it on when the A/C is plugged in | 00:56 |
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| erstazi | qgil: well, nevermind, I just wanted to test my articles but its cool | 01:00 |
| erstazi | kupesoft: you just got to hold down the power button for a few seconds | 01:00 |
| qgil | erstazi: test them in the new wiki instead of using the old, no? | 01:01 |
| erstazi | qgil: correct | 01:01 |
| erstazi | qgil: I mainly have to collect my thoughts, not too many *good* implementations brb | 01:01 |
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| erstazi | keesj_: take a look at this: http://www.internettablettalk.com/wiki/index.php/Internet:Outlook_Sync | 01:08 |
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| qgil | erstazi: http://desdeamericaconamor.org/blog/node/389 there we go, good night and thanks again | 01:17 |
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| erstazi | qgil: no problem, sleep tight | 01:17 |
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| ekim|irc | where ddo you guys get your themes from | 01:20 |
| ekim|irc | I can only seem to find 4 | 01:20 |
| ekim|irc | where do I find ones like this | 01:21 |
| ekim|irc | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VwR8Jp4_wq8 | 01:21 |
| erstazi | ekim|irc: there is an article about getting OS2007HE themes | 01:22 |
| erstazi | ekim|irc: http://www.internettablettalk.com/wiki/index.php/HOWTO:_OS2007_themes_on_OS2006 | 01:22 |
| ekim|irc | Can somebody get me this theme ? | 01:25 |
| ekim|irc | http://www.ee.nmt.edu/~james.smith/Picture46.jpg | 01:25 |
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| erstazi | ekim|irc: thats adria | 01:37 |
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| erstazi | ekim|irc: thats the default theme for the n800 anyways | 01:40 |
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| ekim|irc | but I have a 770 | 01:46 |
| ekim|irc | Do you have an n800 ? | 01:46 |
| erstazi | ekim|irc: no, that was my next point to be made if you responded | 01:48 |
| erstazi | ekim|irc: if someone has OS2007HE or OS2007 you could grab that theme | 01:49 |
| erstazi | or just find it online | 01:49 |
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| ekim|irc- | You were saying ? | 01:50 |
| ekim|irc- | Do you have an n800 | 01:51 |
| erstazi | ekim|irc: you could either find it online or someone can give you that theme | 01:51 |
| erstazi | brb | 01:51 |
| ekim|irc- | Whats it called again | 01:52 |
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| ekim|irc- | So...yeah | 01:59 |
| erstazi | ekim|irc: adria | 02:05 |
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| jufo | do you have somewhere maemo 3.2 SDK easy-to-use vmware image? | 02:05 |
| ekim|irc- | Ohh | 02:15 |
| ekim|irc- | Thanks | 02:15 |
| ekim|irc- | Nope | 02:18 |
| ekim|irc- | Cant find it | 02:18 |
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| ekim|irc- | dpkg: parse error, in file `/var/lib/dpkg/status' near line 1300 package `telepathy-voip-engine': | 02:27 |
| ekim|irc- | Whats up with this | 02:27 |
| ekim|irc- | I got this trying to install mplayer | 02:27 |
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| ekim|irc- | there are ONE HUNDRE NINETY NINE PEOPLE HERE | 02:28 |
| ekim|irc- | cant someone say something | 02:28 |
| ekim|irc- | ? | 02:28 |
| ekim|irc- | :) | 02:28 |
| ekim|irc- | Will somebody please answer my question | 02:31 |
| ekim|irc- | I want to play my vids | 02:31 |
| zwnj | do i need both of these to make apps for 3.x? scratchbox-toolchain-cs2005q3.2-glibc2.5-i386 & scratchbox-toolchain-cs2005q3.2-glibc-i386 | 02:37 |
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| timely | ekim|irc-: brother | 02:44 |
| timely | i'm busy moving 1900 bugs | 02:44 |
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| trevarthan | sitting in mellow mushroom. typin, | 02:52 |
| trevarthan | too bad i got nothin to say. | 02:52 |
| trevarthan | F | 02:55 |
| MCCob | Maemo 2007 HE on 770, it is stable ? | 02:55 |
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| kikka | gn8 | 03:24 |
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| pupnik | MCCob: is there a new one? | 03:27 |
| pupnik | ekim|irc_: still around? | 03:28 |
| pupnik | you should use a google search | 03:28 |
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| trevarthan | angry bar chicks are annoying. | 03:47 |
| trevarthan | slap them with my n800. | 03:47 |
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| timely | sp3000: ping, bug 231 was that ever valid | 04:13 |
| _Monkey | Bug 231 might be found at https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=231 | 04:13 |
| timely | or was the reporter merely unable to *hold* the escape key? | 04:13 |
| sp3000 | maybe it was/is a bug in the de help | 04:14 |
| sp3000 | can't say I recall if that didn't work once upon a time, I never really close with that button | 04:16 |
| sp3000 | oh, cool, the fi help doesn't say hold the button | 04:17 |
| timely | hrm | 04:18 |
| timely | do we have a component for docs/help? | 04:18 |
| timely | check the wiki | 04:18 |
| timely | it's quite likely whichever thing either doesn't exist, or is closed to bugs | 04:18 |
| timely | so you probably can't move the bug to the right place :) | 04:18 |
| sp3000 | yeah I don't see one | 04:20 |
| sp3000 | I like the severity adjustment on that bug | 04:21 |
| timely | ? | 04:21 |
| timely | sorry, i'm busy making a mess | 04:21 |
| sp3000 | minor -> enh :) | 04:21 |
| sp3000 | help lies? enhancement! | 04:21 |
| timely | btw, impersonate user *rocks* | 04:22 |
| timely | ui has one bug, but i'll file it when i'm done | 04:22 |
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| emh5945 | does anybody know of a .deb file for gnash or swfdec for the nokia 770 | 04:26 |
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| ekim|irc_ | Can someone get me the adria theme ? | 04:35 |
| ekim|irc_ | I have a 770 | 04:35 |
| ekim|irc_ | and I want it :) | 04:35 |
| timely | ekim|irc_: it's probably not legal for them to give it to you | 04:37 |
| ekim|irc_ | I disagree | 04:37 |
| ekim|irc_ | whats the license | 04:37 |
| ekim|irc_ | Does maemo *Belong* to nokia | 04:38 |
| ekim|irc_ | or did maemo exist before nokia | 04:38 |
| timely | maemo doesn't | 04:38 |
| ekim|irc_ | and is maemo opensource | 04:38 |
| timely | well, technically it does | 04:38 |
| timely | but ignoring that | 04:38 |
| timely | adria != maemo | 04:38 |
| ekim|irc_ | sure...nokia made it... | 04:38 |
| ekim|irc_ | but what license was it put under | 04:38 |
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| MCCob | no pupnik | 04:40 |
| _Monkey | i guess no pupnik is editing applications.menu in ~/.osso/menus | 04:40 |
| timely | hate to ask, but how do i check? | 04:40 |
| MCCob | no new OS 2007 HE | 04:40 |
| timely | _Monkey forget no pupnki | 04:40 |
| _Monkey | timely, I didn't have anything matching no pupnki | 04:40 |
| timely | _Monkey forget no pupnik | 04:40 |
| _Monkey | timely: I forgot no pupnik | 04:40 |
| ekim|irc_ | wait a sec | 04:40 |
| timely | _Monkey no pupnik is <reply> | 04:40 |
| _Monkey | OK, timely. | 04:40 |
| ekim|irc_ | Wait | 04:41 |
| timely | _Monkey no pupnik | 04:41 |
| _Monkey | timely: huh? | 04:41 |
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| ekim|irc_ | is 2007 hacker edition legal ? | 04:41 |
| timely | _Monkey \no pupnik is <reply> | 04:41 |
| _Monkey | i already had it that way, timely. | 04:41 |
| timely | ekim|irc_: yes | 04:41 |
| ekim|irc_ | then the adria them can be destributed too | 04:41 |
| ekim|irc_ | because it comse with 2007 hacker edition | 04:41 |
| timely | doesn't follow | 04:41 |
| ekim|irc_ | why not ? | 04:41 |
| timely | just because nokia ships an <x> | 04:41 |
| timely | and <x> includes a <y> | 04:41 |
| timely | doesn't mean you can distribute <y> w/o <x> | 04:42 |
| ekim|irc_ | Huh... | 04:42 |
| timely | heck it doens't mean you can redistribute <x> at all | 04:42 |
| ekim|irc_ | Can't someone just send me the theme | 04:42 |
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| ekim|irc_ | I don't support piracy (I only *BROWSE* thepiratebay) | 04:42 |
| ekim|irc_ | but seriously | 04:42 |
| dick-richardson | I have a phone w/bluetooth and it's paired successfully w/my n800...can someone help me setting up internet access through the phone? I do have a data plan | 04:43 |
| ekim|irc_ | great | 04:43 |
| ekim|irc_ | you have an n800 | 04:43 |
| dick-richardson | clicking the globe and choosing 'select connection' it only shown wlan connections | 04:43 |
| ekim|irc_ | then can you send me the adria theme please :) | 04:44 |
| dick-richardson | you tell me how and I'll do it :) | 04:44 |
| ekim|irc_ | cool | 04:44 |
| ekim|irc_ | I dont remember :) | 04:44 |
| dick-richardson | but then you have to help me figure this bluetooth thing out, too :P | 04:44 |
| * timely chuckles | 04:44 | |
| ekim|irc_ | What are the tar arguments... | 04:44 |
| timely | dick-richardson: go to control panel | 04:44 |
| ekim|irc_ | nevermind | 04:44 |
| dick-richardson | timely: kk | 04:44 |
| ekim|irc_ | hey...you know how the 770 comes with busybox | 04:45 |
| ekim|irc_ | but its a cut-down version | 04:45 |
| timely | ekim|irc_: http://www.webwizardry.net/~timeless/n800/microb-3.2007 | 04:45 |
| timely | has general instructions for rebuilding a package | 04:45 |
| ekim|irc_ | is there any way to install the FULL version of busybox | 04:45 |
| ekim|irc_ | I dont want to build a package | 04:45 |
| timely | anything is possible | 04:45 |
| ekim|irc_ | just a tar archive :) | 04:45 |
| ekim|irc_ | No...you dont understand my language | 04:45 |
| ekim|irc_ | lemme translate | 04:45 |
| ekim|irc_ | "I AM LAZY , Someone please build the full version of busybox for the 770 , KTHXBYE" | 04:46 |
| ekim|irc_ | :) | 04:46 |
| timely | don't be lazy | 04:46 |
| ekim|irc_ | Lazy is the wrong word | 04:46 |
| dick-richardson | ekim|irc_: how ever will you learn? | 04:46 |
| ekim|irc_ | Impatient is more like it | 04:46 |
| ekim|irc_ | I dotn feel like downloading the entire dev environment | 04:46 |
| dick-richardson | ekim|irc_: impatience is the enemy of the hacker :P | 04:46 |
| ekim|irc_ | then having it run realyl slow on my machine | 04:46 |
| ekim|irc_ | then try to figure out how to build it | 04:46 |
| dick-richardson | timely: what should I be doing in the control panel? | 04:47 |
| timely | dick-richardson: try the app menu key | 04:47 |
| ekim|irc_ | timely, do you HAVE a n800 ? | 04:48 |
| timely | ekim|irc_: one 770 and one n800 | 04:48 |
| timely | both right in front of me | 04:48 |
| ekim|irc_ | Which do you like better ? | 04:48 |
| ekim|irc_ | more numbers doesnt necessarily mean better | 04:48 |
| timely | i like it when you aren't bothering me | 04:48 |
| timely | i'm trying to move 1900 bugs | 04:48 |
| ekim|irc_ | huh | 04:48 |
| timely | and you're being thoroughly distracting | 04:48 |
| ekim|irc_ | I didn't know ... geez | 04:48 |
| timely | dick-richardson: from the app menu, tools>cellular provider wizard | 04:48 |
| dick-richardson | timely: cellular provider setup wizard? | 04:48 |
| timely | or whatever the first menuitem says | 04:48 |
| timely | yes | 04:48 |
| dick-richardson | timely: perfect, thank you!!! | 04:49 |
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| dick-richardson | went through the wizard, have a connection between the phone and the n800, but it still doesn't show up when I 'select connection'... | 04:54 |
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| dick-richardson | it should show up there, correct? | 04:59 |
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| * sp3000 breaks a wiki | 05:07 | |
| sp3000 | oh, for future reference, don't apply a -w patch on python code :D | 05:07 |
| sp3000 | "oops" | 05:07 |
| _bugs_maemo | heh | 05:11 |
| _bugs_maemo | btw, pieces of bugs.maemo.org are slowly disappearing :) | 05:12 |
| _bugs_maemo | hrm, sp3000: remind me that some people misspell "int-" as "in-" :( | 05:15 |
| * sp3000 unbreaks things and naps | 05:20 | |
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| * _bugs_maemo ponders | 05:31 | |
| dick-richardson | any other ideas on this bluetooth phone | 05:34 |
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| MCCob | Minimo avaible for N770 :) | 05:38 |
| MCCob | with Flash 9 ! | 05:39 |
| _bugs_maemo | minimo? where? | 05:39 |
| _Monkey | minimo is (Mini Mozilla) Web browser, a slimmed down version of mozilla browser aiming resource reduced devices. http://maemo.org/downloads/product/minimo/ | 05:39 |
| _bugs_maemo | oh shut up | 05:39 |
| MCCob | :D | 05:42 |
| MCCob | http://browser.garage.maemo.org/news/6/ :) :) :) | 05:42 |
| _bugs_maemo | that's not minimo | 05:42 |
| MCCob | oh ?! | 05:42 |
| _bugs_maemo | _Monkey microb | 05:43 |
| _Monkey | microb is the nokia sponsored gtk2-cairo hack of gecko for use by /usr/bin/browser via eal on n800 (4.2007) | 05:43 |
| MCCob | it is differend one ! | 05:43 |
| MCCob | ok ok | 05:43 |
| _bugs_maemo | _Monkey really timeless? | 05:43 |
| _Monkey | _bugs_maemo: i haven't a clue | 05:43 |
| _bugs_maemo | _Monkey timeless really? | 05:43 |
| _Monkey | somebody said timeless really was a browser developer working for nokia on the maemo browser (microb). also a mozilla contributor | 05:43 |
| MCCob | what is the difference between maemo & microb ? | 05:43 |
| _bugs_maemo | maemo is a platform | 05:44 |
| _bugs_maemo | microb only really works on maemo | 05:44 |
| _bugs_maemo | you really meant to ask how minimo and microb differed | 05:44 |
| _bugs_maemo | but you didn't | 05:44 |
| MCCob | yes ? | 05:45 |
| _bugs_maemo | yes | 05:45 |
| MCCob | maemo is a platform for different portable device ? | 05:45 |
| MCCob | or small device | 05:46 |
| _bugs_maemo | _Monkey maemo | 05:46 |
| _Monkey | hmmm... maemo is at maemo.org or Open Source Software | 05:46 |
| MCCob | oupppppppppps | 05:46 |
| _bugs_maemo | boy, _Monkey is really helpful | 05:46 |
| MCCob | I want to say minimo | 05:46 |
| MCCob | apologize | 05:46 |
| _bugs_maemo | miinimo is a gecko derivative written in xul designed for portable use on small devices | 05:47 |
| MCCob | ok | 05:47 |
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| MCCob | in microb, there is part of minimo or no ? | 05:47 |
| MCCob | only gecko ? | 05:47 |
| _bugs_maemo | they use approximately the same gecko, minus differences | 05:47 |
| MCCob | ok | 05:48 |
| _bugs_maemo | but, i'm kinda busy using geckos (whichever versions) to attack bugs.maemo | 05:48 |
| _bugs_maemo | i'd like to get back to that | 05:48 |
| MCCob | thank's for explain ;) | 05:50 |
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| ekim|irc_ | seriously | 05:51 |
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| ekim|irc_ | can someone please send me the adria theme | 05:51 |
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| MCCob | it is os 2007 theme ? | 05:54 |
| erstazi | MCCob: it is | 05:57 |
| MCCob | I have 770 'n os 2006 ;) | 05:58 |
| MCCob | failed in buffer_write(fd) (8, ret=-1): backend dpkg-deb during `./usr/lib/microb-engine/libxul.so': No space left on device ! :) i found the problem :) | 05:59 |
| ekim|irc_ | MCCob, yeah | 05:59 |
| MCCob | :) | 06:00 |
| ekim|irc_ | but you can run it on the 770 | 06:00 |
| MCCob | Microb need a big space ! | 06:00 |
| MCCob | I try ekim|irc_ | 06:00 |
| MCCob | it is 5 AM here ! | 06:01 |
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| MCCob | and I try to install microb :) | 06:01 |
| MCCob | amazing for me | 06:01 |
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| dsiemon | Anyone know if there is a setting to get the email app on the n800 to validate SSL certificates? | 06:06 |
| dsiemon | That and I'm having some SMTP auth problems if anyone has ran into problems in this area before :) | 06:06 |
| Blacksitox | re | 06:07 |
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| ekim|irc_ | How can I automatically start the ssh server when the device turns on | 06:33 |
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| _bugs_maemo | ekim|irc_: any decent .deb would add the proper scripts to the startup system | 06:41 |
| ekim|irc_ | Hmm | 06:41 |
| ekim|irc_ | I am trying to install this | 06:41 |
| ekim|irc_ | http://mummola.cs.tut.fi/n770/files/busybox_1.01-4.osso10-ipv6.etc1_armel.deb | 06:41 |
| ekim|irc_ | and it says something about not being able to repalce wget | 06:41 |
| ekim|irc_ | but /usr/bin/wget doens't exist | 06:41 |
| _bugs_maemo | anyone here familiar w/ impl details of the maemo platform? | 06:42 |
| _bugs_maemo | specifically, what handles long press? is it the window manager? task navigator? | 06:42 |
| ekim|irc_ | here is the full error message | 06:43 |
| ekim|irc_ | http://pastie.caboo.se/91017 | 06:43 |
| ekim|irc_ | how do I fix this ? | 06:43 |
| ekim|irc_ | come on guys | 06:46 |
| ekim|irc_ | anyone ? | 06:46 |
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| dick-richardson | so, the phone is paired and connected to my n800. I went through the cellular provider setup wizard, but it's not showing up in my list of connections. any suggestionss? | 07:10 |
| dick-richardson | when I click the globe at the top and choose 'select connection' all I see is wifi networks | 07:11 |
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| ekim|irc_ | wow | 07:15 |
| ekim|irc_ | how cool is it that I can have nmap/aircrack/kismet ... in the palm of my hand | 07:16 |
| ekim|irc_ | linux ftw!! | 07:16 |
| ekim|irc_ | Ohh ... and dick-richardson ...I don't have a bluetooth phone...nor a data plan ... so I can't help you | 07:16 |
| ekim|irc_ | sorry | 07:16 |
| dick-richardson | ekim|irc_: np, just trying to figure out if there's something I'm missing :/ | 07:16 |
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| ekim|irc_ | not sure | 07:17 |
| sully | Anyone remember the US college that MS uses for all its speech software | 07:17 |
| ekim|irc_ | I still get get my email to work :) | 07:17 |
| ekim|irc_ | No... | 07:17 |
| ekim|irc_ | what college ? | 07:17 |
| ekim|irc_ | for what ? | 07:17 |
| sully | For text-to-speech software and the like | 07:17 |
| ekim|irc_ | wow | 07:20 |
| ekim|irc_ | I can install nginx | 07:20 |
| ekim|irc_ | this is one of those "Because you can" things | 07:21 |
| dick-richardson | does it need to be set in the control panel under phone? or bluetooth? both? | 07:24 |
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| _bugs_maemo | dick-richardson: what's phone say in control panel? | 07:31 |
| _bugs_maemo | it needs to match the name of your paired phone | 07:31 |
| _bugs_maemo | if it's "none", you won't be able to select your connections in the connection thing | 07:32 |
| dick-richardson | there's nothing there...it doesn't see the phone | 07:32 |
| _bugs_maemo | err | 07:32 |
| _bugs_maemo | well, um, "new" :) | 07:32 |
| dick-richardson | yeah, it doesn't find it | 07:32 |
| _bugs_maemo | um, what kind of phone? | 07:32 |
| dick-richardson | samsung sch-u420 | 07:33 |
| ekim|irc_ | How can I setup gmail with the built-in mail app | 07:35 |
| _bugs_maemo | ekim|irc_: you're nuts :) | 07:36 |
| _bugs_maemo | but gmail supports pop3 | 07:36 |
| _bugs_maemo | and the built-in mail app claims to support pop3 | 07:36 |
| _bugs_maemo | a match made in **** | 07:36 |
| ekim|irc_ | are you implying that the build in mail app sucks **** | 07:36 |
| _bugs_maemo | nah, the word i had in mind was a relative of heaven | 07:36 |
| _bugs_maemo | i'd just go out and say what you're thinking :) | 07:37 |
| ekim|irc_ | What do you use for email | 07:37 |
| ekim|irc_ | if anything | 07:37 |
| _bugs_maemo | gmail | 07:37 |
| ekim|irc_ | I want to use a client | 07:37 |
| ekim|irc_ | if you were to use a client...what would it be | 07:37 |
| ekim|irc_ | I have claws mail | 07:37 |
| _bugs_maemo | i'd kill myself | 07:37 |
| _bugs_maemo | before my client killed itself | 07:38 |
| _bugs_maemo | You are currently using 2789 MB (96%) of your 2892 MB | 07:38 |
| ekim|irc_ | :) | 07:38 |
| ekim|irc_ | well mine says | 07:38 |
| ekim|irc_ | you are using 36 MB of 2892 (0%) | 07:38 |
| ekim|irc_ | No...im not crazy...its a new account :) | 07:38 |
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| _Monkey | -54621299 | 07:39 |
| * _bugs_maemo eyes _bugs_maemo | 07:39 | |
| * _bugs_maemo eyes _Monkey | 07:39 | |
| dick-richardson | gotta agree with bugs...better to use the web | 07:39 |
| dick-richardson | I tried using the built-in app..only nice thing was notification - formatting was hell. just use the notifier | 07:39 |
| dick-richardson | so I assume this phone won't work? | 07:39 |
| _bugs_maemo | dick-richardson: i can't find anything about it | 07:39 |
| _bugs_maemo | dick-richardson: when i'm done rearranging this bug tracker, file a bug :) | 07:40 |
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| _bugs_maemo | dick-richardson: when i'm done rearranging this bug tracker, file a bug :) | 07:40 |
| ekim|irc_ | I cant even get it to download my mail | 07:40 |
| dick-richardson | _bugs_maemo: I can do that...how confident are you that it will work | 07:41 |
| dick-richardson | I just got it today and can take it back if need be | 07:41 |
| dick-richardson | ekim|irc_: http://www.internettablettalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=587&highlight=gmail | 07:43 |
| dick-richardson | ekim|irc_: that will help if you decide you want to do it anyway | 07:43 |
| erstazi | ekim|irc_: is that a gmail account you are talking about? | 07:44 |
| ekim|irc_ | I want to use claws mail | 07:47 |
| ekim|irc_ | nevermind | 07:47 |
| ekim|irc_ | I got it | 07:48 |
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| ekim|irc_ | claws mail works beautifully | 07:49 |
| ekim|irc_ | is that a word... | 07:49 |
| ekim|irc_ | I think so yeah | 07:49 |
| _bugs_maemo | dick-richardson: we have people who expense buying phones to fix compatibility | 07:49 |
| dick-richardson | _bugs_maemo: ok, so you'd be comfortable keeping it | 07:49 |
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| ekim|irc_ | Ok guys , im going to sleep | 07:52 |
| ekim|irc_ | later | 07:52 |
| _bugs_maemo | oh, if i just bought the phone and could return it, and i cared about my n800 | 07:53 |
| _bugs_maemo | i'd file the bug and return the phone :) | 07:53 |
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| dick-richardson | yeah, I certainly care about the n800 more than the phone, but if it will work (even if it takes a couple weeks) I'll hang on to it | 08:05 |
| dick-richardson | _bugs_maemo: where would I file a bug report? | 08:06 |
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| _bugs_maemo | dick-richardson: i haven't made that component yet :( | 08:07 |
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| _bugs_maemo | it'd be bugs.maemo.org product=Connectivity component=Phone | 08:07 |
| _bugs_maemo | but well, i guess i should do that now... | 08:07 |
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| dick-richardson | _bugs_maemo: no rush, I'll post it tomorrow | 08:08 |
| dick-richardson | take it easy, have a beer :D | 08:08 |
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| _bugs_maemo | dick-richardson: file the bug | 08:15 |
| _bugs_maemo | hold on actually | 08:15 |
| _bugs_maemo | you using 4.2007? 5.2007? | 08:15 |
| _bugs_maemo | https://bugs.maemo.org/enter_bug.cgi?product=Connectivity&format=guided&version=3.x&rep_platform=ARM&op_sys=Linux | 08:18 |
| _bugs_maemo | use that link to file your bug | 08:18 |
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| dick-richardson | I'm using 5.2007 | 08:31 |
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| * _bugs_maemo nods | 08:32 | |
| _bugs_maemo | it occurred to me that the question wasn't very useful, you're lumped into 3.x for now | 08:33 |
| _bugs_maemo | but do include a note that you're using 5.2007 in one of the fields | 08:33 |
| _bugs_maemo | if possible, please include the exact firmware version for your phone | 08:33 |
| _bugs_maemo | (google) | 08:33 |
| _bugs_maemo | if you happen to have other devices that can/can't pair w/ them, they'd also be good datapoints | 08:35 |
| _bugs_maemo | s/them/it/ | 08:35 |
| infobot | _bugs_maemo meant: if you happen to have other devices that can/can't pair w/ it, they'd also be good datapoints | 08:35 |
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| dick-richardson | I have paired a holux gps receiver to it | 08:35 |
| dick-richardson | 5.2007 was the release w/skype, right? | 08:37 |
| dick-richardson | _bugs_maemo: it's bug #1904...you have a sec to make sure it looks right? | 08:42 |
| dick-richardson | https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1904 | 08:42 |
| _Monkey | Bug 1904 might be found at https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1904 | 08:42 |
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| timelyx | dick-richardson: in bluetooth what icon does your phone have? | 08:50 |
| timelyx | hrm | 08:50 |
| timelyx | um, i suppose i should give you some samples... | 08:50 |
| timelyx | i need to go | 08:50 |
| timelyx | i'll be back in ~90mins | 08:50 |
| timelyx | anyway, i'm almost done reorging bugzilla | 08:50 |
| timelyx | i kindly ask people not to file bugs in components not listed in the reorg pages | 08:50 |
| timelyx | as i'll just have to move them later | 08:50 |
| dick-richardson | it's got a little computer behind the bluetooth logo | 08:52 |
| timelyx | especially don't file bugs in applications:utilties, that's been replaced by applications:{whichever} | 08:53 |
| timelyx | hrm, that's probably the problem | 08:53 |
| timelyx | anyway, i'll be back later to help you report the exact filename or something | 08:53 |
| dick-richardson | kk | 08:53 |
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| rocketman | Has anyone been able to order a replacement N800 stylus from Nokia ever? | 09:45 |
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| rocketman | Wow, talkative bunch | 10:11 |
| rocketman | So, anyone heard any good jokes lately? | 10:11 |
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| timelyx | dick-richardson: ok, i'm back | 10:17 |
| timelyx | so, things to do: | 10:17 |
| timelyx | 1. get the specific firmware version from your phone | 10:17 |
| timelyx | 2. get the phone to indicate which bluetooth profiles it supports | 10:17 |
| timelyx | 3. ask the n800 to tell you what it knows about the bluetooth device | 10:18 |
| timelyx | 4. lemme see if i can find the icon info | 10:18 |
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| timelyx | ekim|irc_: looks like adria is in sardine, at least, http://timeless.justdave.net/mxr-test/sardine-20070531/source/osso-themes-2.0.11/usr/share/themes/default/images/ looks an awful like adria | 10:20 |
| sbz | hello | 10:21 |
| _Monkey | niihau, sbz | 10:21 |
| timelyx | http://timeless.justdave.net/mxr-test/sardine-20070531/source/osso-themes-2.0.11/debian/copyright | 10:21 |
| timelyx | ekim|irc_: note the copyright statement | 10:21 |
| timelyx | in fact, that pretty much precludes me including it in my cross reference | 10:21 |
| timelyx | pretty nasty license, but hey, i didn't write it :) | 10:22 |
| sbz | there is a way to admin the n800 via ssh with usb wire ? because the wifi connection is to low to transfert :/ | 10:22 |
| timelyx | sbz: yes | 10:22 |
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| timelyx | you need to read some wiki docs about usbnet | 10:23 |
| sbz | do you have a link ? | 10:23 |
| timelyx | no, you have google? | 10:23 |
| timelyx | dick-richardson: http://timeless.justdave.net/mxr-test/sardine-20070531/source/sdk-default-icons-2.0/icons/26x26/ | 10:23 |
| timelyx | dick-richardson: browse through the qgn_list_btno_ and tell me which matches | 10:25 |
| sbz | http://maemo.org/community/wiki/usbnetworking/ okay i found, thanks timelyx | 10:25 |
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| timelyx | users ask for way too many features | 11:59 |
| dolske | If only there was a feature to prevent that. | 12:00 |
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| timelyx | someone a while ago complained about mnotify and gmail http v. https, bug 1173 covers it | 12:04 |
| _Monkey | Bug 1173 might be found at https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1173 | 12:04 |
| timelyx | oh great | 12:07 |
| timelyx | there's pr0n in bugs.maemo.org | 12:07 |
| timelyx | and not just pr0n, but really offensive stuff | 12:07 |
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| `0660 | which bug is it? :) | 12:10 |
| `0660 | request for improvement of the sample images provided with the firmware? | 12:12 |
| timelyx | 1119 | 12:14 |
| * timelyx waits for `0660 to load it :) | 12:15 | |
| `0660 | access denied :) | 12:16 |
| `0660 | so it's some sort of private stuff from the admins for the admins? :P | 12:16 |
| timelyx | no, it's from a random yahoo.com account | 12:16 |
| timelyx | and it has, well.. pr0n | 12:16 |
| timelyx | or rather, links to pr0n | 12:17 |
| timelyx | i've burried it | 12:17 |
| timelyx | sorry, you can probably find the same pr0n on most bugzillas | 12:17 |
| timelyx | i haven't checked to see if it's the same guy for each bugzilla, but i have heard about it | 12:17 |
| `0660 | free hosting! :) | 12:18 |
| timelyx | no actually | 12:18 |
| timelyx | the host offsite | 12:18 |
| `0660 | oh | 12:18 |
| timelyx | they merely attach html pages that have redirects | 12:18 |
| `0660 | clever | 12:18 |
| timelyx | it's basically a clever way of working around black/white lists | 12:18 |
| timelyx | at least, that's what i've heard about it, i haven't checked this specific instance | 12:18 |
| timelyx | which has um... something like 30 attachments of the same file | 12:19 |
| timelyx | i'll use a different non html aware browser (aka view-source: ) when i want to fix the files | 12:19 |
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| timelyx | 849 is annoying | 12:20 |
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| timelyx | it has no business living in utilties | 12:20 |
| kikka | good morning. | 12:21 |
| timelyx | but, we don't have a place for it to live in yet, so i can't kill utilities until i find it a nice new home :( | 12:21 |
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| `0660 | wouldn't it be easier to just fix it? :) | 12:24 |
| timelyx | no | 12:25 |
| timelyx | bugs need homes | 12:25 |
| timelyx | fixed or not, they still need homes | 12:25 |
| `0660 | cannot xterm disable auto complete? | 12:25 |
| timelyx | boy, the user experience of backup in os2006 sucks | 12:25 |
| sbz | there is a way to do a video screenshot ? it seems osso-screenshot-tool doesn't support video screenshot ? any have an idea ? | 12:25 |
| zuh | External video camera :) | 12:26 |
| sbz | i have juste a green square insted of image | 12:26 |
| timelyx | sbz: use a for loop and osso-screenshot-tool | 12:26 |
| timelyx | then use ms gif animator :) | 12:26 |
| sbz | erf | 12:26 |
| timelyx | use "sleep 5" between interations :) | 12:27 |
| timelyx | post the script when you're done | 12:27 |
| timelyx | anyone here speak german? | 12:28 |
| * timelyx is too lazy to pretend atm | 12:28 | |
| melmoth | i wish i did...i m learning it :) | 12:28 |
| timelyx | that might do | 12:28 |
| sbz | hi melmoth | 12:28 |
| melmoth | hi there sbz | 12:29 |
| timelyx | there's a bug in "Nokia 770:Utilities" that talks about backup and german | 12:29 |
| timelyx | can you try to reproduce what the reporter describes? | 12:29 |
| timelyx | i suspect it's a localization bug | 12:29 |
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| timelyx | or feature | 12:29 |
| melmoth | if i understand what he says, and can play with it on the n800 | 12:29 |
| melmoth | url ? | 12:29 |
| melmoth | bz 225 and 247 ? about the time zone ? | 12:30 |
| timelyx | it's about backup | 12:31 |
| melmoth | no, so it s nto those one . | 12:32 |
| melmoth | 293 Restore resource is wrong in backup application. | 12:32 |
| timelyx | yes | 12:33 |
| dev | timelyx: I do | 12:33 |
| timelyx | see melmoth's bug number | 12:33 |
| * timelyx grumbles | 12:34 | |
| timelyx | there's no busybox component | 12:34 |
| melmoth | https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=293 | 12:34 |
| melmoth | ok,now..how can i swtich this tablet in german ? :) | 12:34 |
| timelyx | open control panel | 12:34 |
| melmoth | hilfe hilfe | 12:34 |
| timelyx | find the flag (language & region) | 12:35 |
| melmoth | got it | 12:35 |
| timelyx | change the first drop down (device language) | 12:35 |
| _Monkey | timelyx: that doesn't look right | 12:35 |
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| timelyx | die _Monkey | 12:35 |
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| * timelyx sighs | 12:36 | |
| timelyx | 653 asks for gestures | 12:36 |
| timelyx | change the first drop down (device language) | 12:36 |
| _Monkey | timelyx: that doesn't look right | 12:36 |
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| timelyx | cool, now i can kill _Monkey whenever i feel like it | 12:36 |
| timelyx | bad _Monkey | 12:36 |
| dev | timelyx: I think you can close this one | 12:37 |
| melmoth | works for me (the label is wiederherstellen) | 12:37 |
| dev | yep | 12:37 |
| timelyx | can you guys fill in precise steps to reproduce | 12:37 |
| timelyx | that includes the os version you're using | 12:37 |
| melmoth | ok. | 12:37 |
| timelyx | i'll follow them at work and figure out which version fixed it or something | 12:37 |
| melmoth | ohh, i just relaise that Wiederhestellen (backup) share a word with Wiederhsen (see you again/good bye) :)) | 12:41 |
| melmoth | thanks for the german lesson maemo :) | 12:41 |
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| * timelyx frowns | 12:43 | |
| timelyx | so, where do i put invalid bugs about products not hosted by maemo? | 12:43 |
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| edistar | does anyone know what the middle pin of the battery connection is? | 13:05 |
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| muzero | hi to all | 13:06 |
| edistar | hey | 13:07 |
| muzero | i have a little problem installing packages on nokia 770... "dep package for armel and not for arm" and "i need maemo package for requisites" | 13:08 |
| timelyx | muzero: you understand that arm and armel aren't compatible, right? | 13:09 |
| muzero | where i can find "maemo" package to resolv dependencies? | 13:09 |
| muzero | sure | 13:09 |
| muzero | but i downloaded a nokia 770 deb package | 13:09 |
| muzero | sry for noob question | 13:09 |
| sbz | point on .install link when you can, it's more easier to install, link like that for example http://maemo-hackers.org/osso-xterm.install to install an xterm | 13:13 |
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| muzero | ok thx | 13:14 |
| muzero | i dont understand why i'm missing maemo package... | 13:15 |
| sbz | muzero: otherwise to resolv dependencies you can use "apt" on your shell | 13:15 |
| timelyx | muzero: could you possibly specify the 770 deb's url | 13:15 |
| timelyx | we don't understand what you're saying | 13:16 |
| timelyx | and if we could read the actual deb, life would be a lot clearer | 13:16 |
| muzero | k | 13:16 |
| muzero | i'm trying to install Cacao jvm | 13:17 |
| muzero | http://c1.complang.tuwien.ac.at/cacaowiki/Nokia770Howto | 13:17 |
| muzero | cacao depends by classhpath, and classhpath by maemo | 13:17 |
| timelyx | sbz: i don't suppose you can look? | 13:18 |
| * timelyx doesn't really feel like finding a .deb aware platform | 13:18 | |
| muzero | http://www.complang.tuwien.ac.at/cacaojvm/download/testing/classpath_0.91-n770-2_arm.deb | 13:18 |
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| timelyx | muzero: atm i'm wearing a hat that says "i reorganize bugs" it doesn't include "i speak debian" | 13:38 |
| timelyx | i have a newbie hat at work which says something like "i can almost vaguely understand how to hurt myself with debian packages as tko can attest", but it's not quite the hat you're looking for | 13:39 |
| muzero | ok thanks anyway | 13:41 |
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| timelyx | is itt usually painfully slow to load? | 13:45 |
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| roope | It varies. | 13:51 |
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| ZenGeist | hi all | 14:28 |
| ZenGeist | I think there is many Linuxers | 14:28 |
| ZenGeist | And my question is... | 14:29 |
| ZenGeist | how I can convert avi for N800 by Linux | 14:29 |
| ZenGeist | ? | 14:29 |
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| melmoth | ZenGeist, http://maemo.org/community/wiki/videoencoding/ | 14:33 |
| melmoth | i use 770-encode | 14:33 |
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| dick-richardson | timelyx: you still on? your link isn't working for me: http://timeless.justdave.net/mxr-test/sardine-20070531/source/sdk-default-icons-2.0/icons/26x26/ | 15:33 |
| timelyx | yeah, sorry, someone complained that my server contained content it shouldn't have had | 15:34 |
| timelyx | which means we'll have to get you browsing the file system, got a working web browser on your device? | 15:34 |
| dick-richardson | here's the info on my phone: http://www.phonescoop.com/phones/phone.php?p=1052 | 15:35 |
| dick-richardson | on the phone I just have the | 15:36 |
| dick-richardson | Supported Profiles: HSP, HFP, DUN | 15:36 |
| dick-richardson | version 2.0 | 15:36 |
| timelyx | ok, open web browser on device | 15:36 |
| timelyx | in the location bar, type /usr and tap the go button | 15:36 |
| timelyx | scroll to and tap in order: | 15:37 |
| timelyx | share, icons, hicolor, 26x26, hildon | 15:37 |
| timelyx | appmenu>tools>find on page | 15:37 |
| timelyx | btno (tap find go button) | 15:38 |
| timelyx | open each btno file in turn until you find the one that matches how bluetooth shows your phone | 15:38 |
| dick-richardson | kk, looking at 'em now | 15:38 |
| timelyx | http://erms.samsungusa.com/customer/sea/jsp/faqs/faqs_view.jsp?SITE_ID=22&PG_ID=557&PROD_SUB_ID=689&PROD_ID=742&AT_ID=73853 | 15:39 |
| timelyx | should hopefully get you your firmware version | 15:40 |
| dick-richardson | I'm telling you which one matches the icon for the phone on the n800 | 15:40 |
| timelyx | yes | 15:40 |
| timelyx | the goal is to provide as much information as you can in advance of someone actually getting your phone | 15:40 |
| dick-richardson | in the bluetooth section...the key...qgn_list_btno_authorized_new.png | 15:42 |
| dick-richardson | that's what I see when I click control panel --> bluetooth --> devices | 15:42 |
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| dick-richardson | go to that url on the phone? | 15:44 |
| timelyx | no, any web browser | 15:44 |
| timelyx | it's instructions | 15:44 |
| timelyx | sorry, i should have specified | 15:44 |
| dick-richardson | kk | 15:45 |
| dick-richardson | the bluetooth profiles look right? | 15:45 |
| timelyx | um. sorry, i'm a browser dev | 15:46 |
| timelyx | i only know bluetooth profiles when i read them in devices :) | 15:46 |
| dick-richardson | np, you want software version? hardware version? both? | 15:46 |
| sp3000 | speaking of which, the mangle to width mode really likes to scroll to top a lot | 15:46 |
| sbz | http://openbossa.indt.org/canola/, really fun | 15:46 |
| timelyx | i take as much information as i can get, so "both" is always the right answer | 15:47 |
| dick-richardson | s/w: u420.zh09 | 15:47 |
| timelyx | note: you don't really need to tell me in the channel, it's sufficient to collect the information | 15:47 |
| timelyx | and then add all of it to an additional comment in the bug | 15:47 |
| timelyx | (one comment, all the information) | 15:47 |
| dick-richardson | gotcha...add to the bug...little slow this morning | 15:47 |
| timelyx | it's nearly 4pm here, and i've been reorganizing bugzilla since 10:30pm last night | 15:48 |
| dick-richardson | that's dedication | 15:52 |
| dick-richardson | Supported profiles with a link to the phone specs, the icon listed in the bluetooth control panel, and the s/w and h/w versions of the phone - anything else? | 15:55 |
| timelyx | oh right, other devices/platforms you have that do work w/ it | 15:55 |
| timelyx | especially linux related creatures | 15:55 |
| dick-richardson | alright, only thing is a holux gps receiver | 15:56 |
| timelyx | if you have such things, figure out which library/version is providing that compatibility | 15:56 |
| timelyx | nah, i mean, does your laptop pair w/ the phone | 15:56 |
| timelyx | or your desktop | 15:56 |
| dick-richardson | ahh, nothing else I have has bluetooth :( | 15:56 |
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| timelyx | ok, i can't think of anything else | 15:58 |
| timelyx | Interesting | 16:04 |
| timelyx | the regional list is bigger than the Localization list | 16:04 |
| sp3000 | hmm, microb 1.0.1 (per about:), microb-browser 0.0.8-3 (package) o_O | 16:07 |
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| timelyx | yeah well, um. bug romaxa | 16:09 |
| * timelyx tries to remember which things Norske/Norge are | 16:10 | |
| timelyx | they're the fun ones, right? | 16:10 |
| sp3000 | I presume the 1.0.1 is the less useful one, since things probably require 0.0.8-3 to increment | 16:10 |
| sp3000 | norwegians? dunno, haven't tried really | 16:11 |
| timelyx | sp3000: i don't suppose you remember if we ship bokmal or nynorsk? | 16:11 |
| timelyx | (question's open to everyone) | 16:11 |
| sp3000 | oh, darn, gotta rescue laundry, brb | 16:11 |
| whaq | hey guys, is there a way to set Claws email to replace the default osso mailer? | 16:18 |
| sp3000 | wee, fx decided to swap to death on google :D | 16:21 |
| timelyx | whaq: well, nokia is replacing claws | 16:22 |
| timelyx | so it must be possible | 16:22 |
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| timelyx | you can look at how they did it | 16:23 |
| timelyx | don't ask me the name, i can't remember :), i think it's modest (tinymail) | 16:23 |
| timelyx | sp3000: so, any idea where localizations would be? | 16:23 |
| whaq | timelyx: what do you mean? Is Nokia replacing the default email w/ Claws? | 16:24 |
| whaq | oh yeah, i read that (tinymail) | 16:24 |
| timelyx | oh sorry, replacing whatever w/ i think tinymail | 16:24 |
| timelyx | *shrug* point is it's being replaced | 16:24 |
| timelyx | so it must be possible :) | 16:24 |
| timelyx | it's all gconf / .desktop magic | 16:25 |
| * timelyx frowns | 16:25 | |
| whaq | Well yes, it's possible to code anything on an open platform that they're developing :P | 16:25 |
| timelyx | isn't no-no the incorrect thing? | 16:25 |
| timelyx | afaik we can currently swap mailers | 16:25 |
| whaq | can? so that it reposponds to the 'new mail' shortcut on the home screen menu and also new-mail indicator there? | 16:26 |
| whaq | s/reposponds/responds | 16:26 |
| timelyx | i'd assume so | 16:28 |
| timelyx | personally, i've never really used either of them | 16:28 |
| timelyx | the most i got w/ the old one was a bug in the account setup wizard | 16:28 |
| timelyx | and w/ the new one, i just pointed out that the details dialog was narrower than the message window for content that was wider | 16:29 |
| timelyx | that's as far as i got | 16:29 |
| timelyx | i haven't even bothered to give either mail accounts | 16:29 |
| whaq | I've installed claws, and it acts like a completely independent standalone mail apps. It does not affect the default mail at all. | 16:30 |
| erstazi | whaq: do you have a 770 or n800? | 16:30 |
| whaq | erstazi: n800 | 16:30 |
| erstazi | whaq: ok, nevermind | 16:30 |
| whaq | erstazi: ok | 16:30 |
| erstazi | I was going to say something pertaining to OS2006 but I don't know if it holds true for OS2007 | 16:30 |
| whaq | erstazi: i wouldn't mind knowing that, do share please | 16:31 |
| erstazi | whaq: nah I don't want to brick your device! | 16:31 |
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| erstazi | whaq: and if you edit the gconf and .desktop, it should do the trick | 16:31 |
| whaq | erstazi: ooh, now u gotta tell me what that was :P | 16:31 |
| whaq | erstazi: i'm going to set sd-boot within this week. I'll be able to afford to mess things up more afterward. | 16:32 |
| erstazi | whaq: well, I think gconf and .desktop take higher presedence over applications.menu | 16:32 |
| erstazi | s/presedence/precedence/ | 16:33 |
| infobot | erstazi meant: whaq: well, I think gconf and .desktop take higher precedence over applications.menu | 16:33 |
| whaq | the bot makes a useful retype monkey too, eh | 16:33 |
| whaq | ok, will try that out | 16:34 |
| erstazi | whaq: yeah I would focus on the gconf and .desktop | 16:34 |
| erstazi | whaq: timelyx knows more on that information than I do (: | 16:35 |
| timelyx | i really don't | 16:36 |
| timelyx | unless timeless.justdave.net/mxr-test/ happens to index modest | 16:36 |
| timelyx | in which case, anyone here could look | 16:36 |
| timelyx | yippee, lightning | 16:37 |
| * timelyx considers going to a movie | 16:37 | |
| sp3000 | wonder if I'm going to run out of router ports tonight :P | 16:38 |
| * timelyx grins | 16:38 | |
| * sp3000 waits for the kernel on the laptop to take a moment from paging and ho reboot | 16:39 | |
| sp3000 | go even | 16:39 |
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| Jaffa | Morning, all | 16:39 |
| erstazi | morning Jaffa | 16:40 |
| whaq | is there any particular online documentation about gconf & .desktop to consult? (I haven't googled yet) | 16:41 |
| timelyx | sp3000: can you find a place for bug 191 to die in | 16:42 |
| _Monkey | Bug 191 might be found at https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=191 | 16:42 |
| timelyx | whaq: personally timeless.justdave.net/mxr-test/garage/ browse through .desktop files :) | 16:42 |
| whaq | timelyx: thakn you, will do | 16:42 |
| whaq | s/thakn/thank | 16:42 |
| timelyx | i think find isn't working | 16:42 |
| timelyx | not sure, maybe it does | 16:42 |
| timelyx | oh, it's /gnome/ that doesn't work | 16:43 |
| timelyx | garage should, so yeah, use find?string=\.desktop :) | 16:43 |
| timelyx | if you're curious about a certain line, try: | 16:43 |
| timelyx | search?string=foopy&find=\.desktop | 16:43 |
| whaq | yup, got it | 16:44 |
| timelyx | the sources aren't necessarily current, but there should be links at the top of each source file to something like VC Log | 16:45 |
| timelyx | or VC Blame | 16:45 |
| timelyx | which should get you to the svn system | 16:45 |
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| sp3000 | timelyx: desktop / user interaction is the closest I can think of | 16:47 |
| whaq | isn't .desktop used for desktop applets? | 16:48 |
| sp3000 | or system / general | 16:48 |
| whaq | how does it affect the menu items? (Web & Contacts, in particular the email related entries in Contact) | 16:49 |
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| timelyx | sp3000: i'll buy the former | 16:50 |
| straind | Anyone have any information on connecting to bluetooth devices (other than phone or gps)? | 16:52 |
| * sp3000 gives the laptop the power key | 16:53 | |
| Jaffa | timelyx: definitely liking watching the ripple of Bugzilla notifications during your re-org. Making a lot of sense :) | 16:54 |
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| sp3000 | what the heck | 16:55 |
| sp3000 | does ubuntu disable cad somewhere?! | 16:56 |
| timelyx | Jaffa: cool | 16:58 |
| timelyx | i'm at the sucky parts now | 16:58 |
| timelyx | i might actually call it a day, go out for a movie and ask for help | 16:58 |
| MCCob | anyone manage to install recent Micro-B for Maemo 2006 (Nokia 770) ? | 16:59 |
| timelyx | Jaffa: actually, instead of that | 16:59 |
| sp3000 | for a moment there I thought there was smoke coming out of my ears but turns out it was just lunch | 16:59 |
| timelyx | can you look through https://bugs.maemo.org/describecomponents.cgi and figure out what i'm missing? | 16:59 |
| timelyx | so far, help application, documentation, and input methods are missing | 17:00 |
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| Jaffa | will do. Just got to get to my desk ;-) | 17:00 |
| Jaffa | (in the middle of dramatic sorting of our study) | 17:00 |
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| timelyx | oh, i'm looking for suggestions about where those should live | 17:02 |
| timelyx | i've put help into applications | 17:02 |
| timelyx | but documentation and input methods, um.. | 17:02 |
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| Jaffa | Documentation should either be top-level or under "Web site" | 17:02 |
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| Jaffa | Input Methods: top-level (not best), or System Software? | 17:02 |
| timelyx | i'll go w/ top level for documentation | 17:03 |
| timelyx | system software is where i was leaning for the other | 17:03 |
| Jaffa | Agreed. That's best, I think. | 17:03 |
| MCCob | Anyone have Nokia 770 ? :) | 17:04 |
| timelyx | MCCob: i'm running 2.2006, microb requires 3.2006 | 17:04 |
| timelyx | i haven't gotten around to poking romaxa enough or trying to fix it | 17:04 |
| MCCob | what is 3.2006 ? | 17:04 |
| timelyx | i'm running 3.2007 w/ microb (microb requires 4.2007) | 17:05 |
| timelyx | latest :) | 17:05 |
| MCCob | Micro-b not longer require 2007 ! | 17:05 |
| MCCob | see : http://browser.garage.maemo.org/news/6/ | 17:05 |
| timelyx | http://browser.garage.maemo.org/news/6/ | 17:05 |
| timelyx | oh | 17:05 |
| MCCob | :) | 17:05 |
| timelyx | yes, that's for 2006, not 2007 | 17:05 |
| MCCob | yes :) | 17:06 |
| timelyx | but it requires 3.2006, and i have 2.2006, so no microb for me | 17:06 |
| MCCob | where we can see that ? | 17:06 |
| _Monkey | that is probably something that no one else has done yet | 17:06 |
| MCCob | 3.2006 or 2.2006 ? | 17:06 |
| _Monkey | 3 | 17:06 |
| timelyx | control panel>device>about product | 17:06 |
| timelyx | _Monkey forget that | 17:06 |
| _Monkey | timelyx: I forgot that | 17:06 |
| MCCob | ok | 17:06 |
| timelyx | _Monkey that is <reply> | 17:06 |
| _Monkey | OK, timelyx. | 17:06 |
| timelyx | 3 or 7 | 17:07 |
| _Monkey | 7 | 17:07 |
| timelyx | 2 or 1 | 17:07 |
| _Monkey | 3 | 17:07 |
| MCCob | 3.2006.49-2 | 17:07 |
| _Monkey | rumour has it 3.2006.49-2 is the last (final) version of OS 2006 so you're up to date | 17:07 |
| timelyx | change the first drop down (device language) | 17:07 |
| _Monkey | timelyx: that doesn't look right | 17:07 |
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| timelyx | sp3000: ok, how about things like 23 | 17:08 |
| MCCob | <timelyx> change the first drop down (device language) it is for manage to install micro-b ? | 17:08 |
| timelyx | MCCob: how to kill _Monkey in one easy step | 17:08 |
| MCCob | ok lol | 17:09 |
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| timelyx | sp3000: how do herring/sardine relate to 3.0? | 17:12 |
| timelyx | oh right... | 17:13 |
| timelyx | Jaffa, if you have time, pick a js enabled browser, load bugs.maemo.org/query.cgi | 17:13 |
| erstazi | _Monkey became intelligent! | 17:13 |
| _Monkey | erstazi: excuse me? | 17:13 |
| timelyx | erstazi: he learned how to run away from me, yes :) | 17:13 |
| erstazi | timelyx: heh | 17:13 |
| Jaffa | timelyx: on a Maemo device? | 17:13 |
| timelyx | click each product in turn and figure out which products have versions that are inconsistent | 17:13 |
| timelyx | Jaffa: no, any browser will do | 17:14 |
| Jaffa | Ah, cool | 17:14 |
| erstazi | ugh, not a good day today | 17:14 |
| sp3000 | timelyx: no idea, it's all fish to me | 17:14 |
| erstazi | timelyx: how are the bugs going? | 17:14 |
| timelyx | erstazi: slowly atm | 17:14 |
| timelyx | they refuse to have good places to live | 17:15 |
| erstazi | timelyx: if you would like help, I can assist | 17:15 |
| timelyx | erstazi: i think at this point i'll take it | 17:15 |
| timelyx | a few notes: | 17:15 |
| timelyx | 1. don't comment in bugs | 17:15 |
| erstazi | I need some Guinness | 17:15 |
| timelyx | 2. before you start working, edit prefs | 17:15 |
| sp3000 | timelyx: 23? dev plat / rootstrap I think | 17:15 |
| timelyx | click permissions | 17:15 |
| erstazi | timelyx: heh | 17:16 |
| timelyx | make sure you have editubgs | 17:16 |
| timelyx | if you don't, tell me | 17:16 |
| timelyx | same goes to the rest of you living people | 17:16 |
| timelyx | you dead people can stay dead for all i care :) | 17:16 |
| Jaffa | timelyx: dosfstools, installer, other have inconsistencies and shouldn't be there anyway (IMHO). sdk-* shouldn't be there either. Not sure about "herring" and "sardine" in "System software". Shouldn't all the products go up to the announced 5.0 series? | 17:16 |
| erstazi | timelyx: btw, just curious, how many bugs are there total? (don't have to look, just wondering if you knew off the top of your head) | 17:16 |
| timelyx | slightly over 1900 | 17:16 |
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| timelyx | i filed 1900 on friday | 17:16 |
| erstazi | timelyx: thats not bad at all considering the amount of people who use these devices | 17:17 |
| erstazi | timelyx: I was expecting more (: | 17:17 |
| timelyx | we have ~530 bug reporters | 17:17 |
| erstazi | timelyx: does that include back when OS2005 was alive and common? | 17:17 |
| timelyx | and <90 assignees | 17:17 |
| timelyx | erstazi: this includes everything | 17:18 |
| erstazi | timelyx: thats about the ratio of what other large projects have | 17:18 |
| erstazi | but having more assignees cannot hurt (: | 17:18 |
| timelyx | oh, i need to create dummy accounts for applications | 17:18 |
| timelyx | i should do that next | 17:18 |
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| erstazi | hi _guardian | 17:19 |
| timelyx | oh right | 17:20 |
| timelyx | one thing i need to do when i'm done is make a bunch of the old qa contacts watch the new ones | 17:20 |
| timelyx | ooh, there is an "im" | 17:22 |
| * timelyx sighs | 17:22 | |
| timelyx | what a clever name for a component | 17:22 |
| erstazi | heh | 17:22 |
| erstazi | timelyx: what server-side language does bugs.* use? | 17:22 |
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| timelyx | bugzilla = perl | 17:23 |
| erstazi | hi alex-weej | 17:23 |
| erstazi | timelyx: ah we had this talk then, I was verifying that its so | 17:23 |
| erstazi | well I am going to relax | 17:25 |
| * sp3000 sets some vm ulimits | 17:25 | |
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| roope | http://xa.mine.nu/uploads/Kuvat/JPG/HauskatMuut/Windows_Vista_Aero_WOW.jpg :) | 17:26 |
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| erstazi | roope: heh | 17:28 |
| erstazi | sp3000: vm as in virtual machine? | 17:28 |
| WhisperingVoices | Hey all. Any Nokia N800 users have time to talk to me privately? | 17:28 |
| timelyx | virtual memory | 17:28 |
| erstazi | aye | 17:29 |
| sp3000 | erstazi: memory, such that fx doesn't dos my laptop with swapping when it goes for a loop | 17:29 |
| erstazi | sp3000: heh | 17:29 |
| erstazi | I understand virtual memory, just got my brain on virtual machines at the moment | 17:29 |
| timelyx | erstazi: see, sp3000's laptop doesn't have 4gb of ram | 17:29 |
| erstazi | easy portability with them and thin clients make life easier in some aspect | 17:30 |
| timelyx | so he can't do what i do when firefox wants 4gb :) | 17:30 |
| erstazi | timelyx: neither does mine | 17:30 |
| timelyx | (i.e. i ignore firefox) | 17:30 |
| erstazi | timelyx: heh | 17:30 |
| timelyx | erstazi: fwiw, on linux, you don't actually get 4gb firefoxes (2gb limit) | 17:31 |
| erstazi | timelyx: I am on Linux (: | 17:32 |
| timelyx | oh right... | 17:34 |
| timelyx | Jaffa/ sp3000: i'm considering moving all the tableteer stuff to their own product | 17:34 |
| timelyx | objetions? | 17:34 |
| jufo | where i can find vmware easy-to-use maemo 3.2 sdk image? | 17:36 |
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| jufo | this one is latest version? http://www.vmware.com/appliances/directory/1008 | 17:37 |
| ekim|irc_ | AHHHH | 17:37 |
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| ekim|irc_ | I cant decide | 17:37 |
| ekim|irc_ | red Pill or Blue Pill | 17:37 |
| ekim|irc_ | :( | 17:37 |
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| ekim|irc_ | Thats a cdoes blue pill do anything , or is it just there to be funny | 17:37 |
| timelyx | undoes redpill | 17:38 |
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| ekim|irc_ | ohh | 17:38 |
| timelyx | how else do you expect to get out of the rabbit hole? | 17:38 |
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| ekim|irc_ | Why would I want to get oout of therabit hole | 17:38 |
| ekim|irc_ | I would never catch the rabbitr | 17:38 |
| ekim|irc_ | maybe he could teach me how to type :) | 17:38 |
| ekim|irc_ | wow | 17:39 |
| ekim|irc_ | red pill is soocool | 17:39 |
| whaq | rabbit teaches reading.. | 17:39 |
| erstazi | ekim|irc_: having fingers first helps (: | 17:39 |
| ekim|irc_ | so thats where all those packages are | 17:39 |
| whaq | it's mavis beacon if you need typing help | 17:39 |
| timelyx | there were a couple of competitors to mavis | 17:39 |
| ekim|irc_ | twust mee I kan tyez gud | 17:39 |
| timelyx | i can't remember their names, but i do remember using them | 17:39 |
| ekim|irc_ | Like regular linux packages | 17:40 |
| ekim|irc_ | like gcc and automake | 17:40 |
| ekim|irc_ | the "Good Stuff" | 17:40 |
| erstazi | ekim|irc_: is your speech good? you could always use speech to text | 17:40 |
| ekim|irc_ | Not just the safe stuff | 17:40 |
| ekim|irc_ | Ahh...text to speech never works for me | 17:40 |
| whaq | well, mavis beacon is quite closely related to aunt jemima | 17:40 |
| erstazi | ekim|irc_: thats because you cannot type, try speech to text heh | 17:40 |
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| ekim|irc_ | they both need to go get stuck in that rabit hole... | 17:41 |
| ekim|irc_ | although...I do like waffles :) | 17:41 |
| ekim|irc_ | Here we go | 17:41 |
| ekim|irc_ | a bash package | 17:41 |
| ekim|irc_ | nice | 17:41 |
| whaq | they're both imaginary characters.. | 17:41 |
| ekim|irc_ | bz2 | 17:41 |
| ekim|irc_ | nice , nice | 17:41 |
| * erstazi like waffles, also | 17:41 | |
| ekim|irc_ | grrrr... | 17:41 |
| ekim|irc_ | I cant believe this | 17:41 |
| ekim|irc_ | canolia doesn't have an i18n package or esperanto | 17:42 |
| ZenGeist | :( | 17:44 |
| ZenGeist | zengeist@spectre ~ $ ./770-encode.pl --preset=best 28.nedel.spustja.DVDRip.avi 28.nedel.spustja.n800.avi | 17:44 |
| ZenGeist | Failed to get movie info. | 17:44 |
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| ZenGeist | What's wrong? | 17:45 |
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| Jaffa | ZenGeist: what happens if you do mplayer 28.nedel.spustja.DVDRip.avi ? | 17:47 |
| Jaffa | Similarly, `which mencoder' | 17:47 |
| Jaffa | timelyx: happy for me to move #1695 to the "User interface" component? | 17:48 |
| timelyx | yeah | 17:49 |
| timelyx | don't forget to select reassign | 17:49 |
| timelyx | woohoo, my n800 rebooted | 17:49 |
| Jaffa | timelyx: it's currently unassigned, so no issue there ;). What about "QA contact" (currently opera-engine-bugs@maemo.org (and shouldn't that really be an @nokia or @opera (ideally) address)? | 17:50 |
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| timelyx | Jaffa: select the (*) reassign to defaults | 17:51 |
| timelyx | bugzilla will do the rest | 17:51 |
| timelyx | i'll explain in a blog how the reorg works when i'm done | 17:51 |
| Jaffa | timelyx: only got "leave as new", unless I'm being particularly blind. | 17:51 |
| timelyx | but in short if you load https://bugs.maemo.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email#watchedusers | 17:52 |
| timelyx | Jaffa: what's your bugmail account | 17:52 |
| timelyx | remember my earlier request | 17:52 |
| timelyx | load https://bugs.maemo.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=permissions | 17:52 |
| timelyx | if you don't have editbugs, tell me your account name | 17:52 |
| Jaffa | ah, no. andrew@bleb.org | 17:52 |
| Jaffa | Bugzilla's permissions model is seriously broken in the UI dept if it has enabled drop-downs for something you're not allowed to do. | 17:53 |
| timelyx | ok, reload permissions and the bug | 17:53 |
| Jaffa | <mutter /> | 17:53 |
| Jaffa | Tick, tick. Ta :) | 17:53 |
| timelyx | newer versions show you fewer drop downs when you can't change things | 17:53 |
| timelyx | not sure if it's perfect | 17:53 |
| timelyx | but bugs.maemo is fairly old | 17:53 |
| timelyx | and i'm usually a fairly powerful user | 17:54 |
| timelyx | i intend to remove canconfirm from normal users too, i haven't yet | 17:54 |
| timelyx | w/o canconfirm, people will see the enter_bug.cgi?format=guided instead of what you see | 17:55 |
| timelyx | anyway, new qa contacts are "watchable", they get no mail of their own, but you can fill their names into the field in the email tab url to get the mail they would get according to your preferences | 17:56 |
| timelyx | can someone w/ microb try loading... http://browser.garage.maemo.org/news/index.xml | 17:58 |
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| timelyx | my devices don't seem to like my phone | 17:58 |
| Blacksitox | buenos dias :) | 17:58 |
| Blacksitox | hello | 17:58 |
| _Monkey | que tal, Blacksitox | 17:58 |
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| Blacksitox | hey _Monkey hablas español ? :O | 17:59 |
| Blacksitox | speak spanish ? xD | 18:00 |
| timelyx | no, nosotros no hablamos espanol | 18:00 |
| sp3000 | garage isn't talking to me | 18:01 |
| sp3000 | heh, funny feature in the browser ui | 18:02 |
| Blacksitox | timelyx, de donde eres ? | 18:02 |
| Blacksitox | es que poco o nada se ingles, por eso ni escribo :P | 18:02 |
| * Blacksitox tiene que entrar a clases de ingles mas seguido :p | 18:02 | |
| timelyx | de los estados unidos ... | 18:03 |
| sp3000 | while it's 'connecting', tap the ...um, 'go' button again | 18:03 |
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| Blacksitox | timelyx, pff yo soy de Bolivia | 18:03 |
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| sp3000 | the indeterminate progress for 'connecting' goes faster each press :D | 18:03 |
| timelyx | heh | 18:03 |
| timelyx | file a bug :) | 18:03 |
| * timelyx sings ~another one bites the dust~ | 18:06 | |
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| * timelyx ponders | 18:07 | |
| timelyx | sp3000: think connectivity would mind if i gave it a DNS component? :) | 18:07 |
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| timelyx | ooh, i can make my own ICD component | 18:15 |
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| timelyx | "This component is here so that timeless can complain about it sucking" | 18:16 |
| sp3000 | heh | 18:16 |
| sp3000 | Bluetooth for problems recognizing, detecting, interoperating with bluetooth devices? | 18:17 |
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| sp3000 | s/Bluetooth for problems // | 18:17 |
| infobot | sp3000 meant: recognizing, detecting, interoperating with bluetooth devices? | 18:17 |
| timelyx | think i'm missing an "and" somewhere? | 18:17 |
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| sp3000 | s/, inter/, and inter/ | 18:17 |
| infobot | sp3000 meant: Bluetooth for problems recognizing, detecting, and interoperating with bluetooth devices? | 18:17 |
| timelyx | hrm | 18:18 |
| sp3000 | infobot: you silly bot, you don't do subsequent substs? | 18:18 |
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| * timelyx tries to remember how to kill infobot's\ | 18:18 | |
| timelyx | infobot: change the first drop down (device language) | 18:18 |
| _Monkey | timelyx: that doesn't look right | 18:18 |
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| infobot | that doesn't look right | 18:18 |
| timelyx | darn, it only kills one | 18:18 |
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| timelyx | oh, that's funny | 18:39 |
| timelyx | we have Rhapsody and Camera, but not Skype | 18:39 |
| * timelyx sighs | 18:39 | |
| timelyx | ok, poll | 18:39 |
| timelyx | is Skype Communications? | 18:40 |
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| Jaffa | Yes. I tshould be. | 18:41 |
| timelyx | we have Applications and Communication | 18:43 |
| timelyx | should it be Communications? | 18:43 |
| Jaffa | No. | 18:43 |
| Jaffa | "Applications" contains application X, application Y and application Z; so it's plural. "Communication" is describing an activity | 18:44 |
| timelyx | ok | 18:46 |
| timelyx | it's about time for me to go | 18:46 |
| timelyx | todo list for you guys: | 18:46 |
| timelyx | empty (nokia 770/applications):(core/desktop/hardware/ User interface and graphics and style) | 18:47 |
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| timelyx | also nokia 770:(browser/connectivity/messaging/utilities) | 18:48 |
| timelyx | messaging goes to communication | 18:48 |
| timelyx | utilities go to applications:{whichever app} | 18:49 |
| timelyx | connectivity and browser are products | 18:49 |
| timelyx | desktop is a product | 18:49 |
| timelyx | core is either desktop or system-something | 18:49 |
| timelyx | hardware, um, good luck | 18:49 |
| setite | how do i assort my apps | 18:50 |
| setite | on an n800 | 18:50 |
| setite | all of them being in extras is annoying | 18:50 |
| timelyx | open control panel | 18:50 |
| setite | i'd like to make some new categories | 18:50 |
| timelyx | open naviation | 18:50 |
| timelyx | click organize | 18:50 |
| setite | bingo.. thanks | 18:50 |
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| timelyx | fkb and vkb now live in system software | 18:52 |
| timelyx | hopefully that's enough for you guys to play w/ | 18:53 |
| * timelyx will be back in 1-6 hours | 18:53 | |
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| Tahitibob | Hi | 18:57 |
| _Monkey | hi, Tahitibob | 18:57 |
| Tahitibob | little question about the N800 : | 18:57 |
| Tahitibob | are the card slots hotplug ? | 18:58 |
| setite | seem to be... | 18:58 |
| setite | not sure what you mean though | 18:58 |
| setite | ive never heard of memory cards not being hotplug | 18:58 |
| Tahitibob | can i add and remove mmc cards whem the N800 is on | 18:58 |
| setite | an mmc card that has the OS you booted too? | 18:59 |
| setite | or just an mmc with media or docs on it | 18:59 |
| Tahitibob | only for data | 18:59 |
| setite | actually either way im not sure.. i use SD... and i dunno if mmc is somehow different | 18:59 |
| setite | i know i can pull sd cards out at will | 18:59 |
| setite | and put new ones in and canola will sense and read them... as does the nokia itself | 19:00 |
| setite | is mmc different? | 19:00 |
| Tahitibob | ok, I try now | 19:00 |
| * sp3000 takes a knife to a microsd adapter | 19:00 | |
| setite | anyone having vnc problems | 19:00 |
| sp3000 | I need to make a groove for a fingernail :) | 19:00 |
| setite | i cant tell which end im having problems on | 19:01 |
| setite | i cant get into my main rig through vnc even with teh ports forwarded | 19:01 |
| setite | ok a port check shows the port is closed | 19:02 |
| Tahitibob | ok, i see messages (wihtdmesg) when inserting the mcc | 19:02 |
| Tahitibob | but the N800 does not recognize it | 19:03 |
| setite | not showing int he file manager? | 19:03 |
| Tahitibob | no | 19:04 |
| setite | oddness | 19:04 |
| setite | so it senses the card... but doesnt append the card to the list of devices in teh file manager | 19:04 |
| setite | .... car is confirmed to be formatted in a linux friendly FS? | 19:04 |
| Tahitibob | FAT16 | 19:05 |
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| red-zack | witch file manager do you guys use? | 19:05 |
| Tahitibob | it an old mmc card, 32 Mo | 19:05 |
| kupesoft | I've noticed a bizarre connectivity issue with the n800. When connected to a Atheros (madwifi) / WPA access point, the connection is completely flaky and barely works (I can't even ping the n800 from the network) because it constantly disconnected. Then when I connect to a OpenWRT router (broadcom) with WEP, it works as expected. What's wrong here? | 19:06 |
| kupesoft | Both networks work fine with other computers, | 19:06 |
| setite | i use the default red-zack is there a better one | 19:07 |
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| setite | i want one that shows my /bin and shit | 19:07 |
| setite | openwrt is good.. madwifi is shite? | 19:08 |
| setite | well computers are a great deal more forgiving than portable hardware | 19:08 |
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| setite | nothing on the forum about atheros connectivity issues? | 19:09 |
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| setite | man i love ddwrt but someone in the irc channel needs to wake the hell up | 19:09 |
| setite | ive been having port forwarding issues that are driving me nuts | 19:09 |
| setite | i need vnc | 19:09 |
| sp3000 | ah well, as usual, the head of a refillable pencil turns out to be a superior grooving tool | 19:10 |
| kupesoft | I turned off hostapd on the madwifi network, with WEP + madwifi, same problem. | 19:13 |
| kupesoft | I think it's a hardware issue? | 19:13 |
| kupesoft | Atheros + n800 = :( | 19:13 |
| setite | why use wep anyway | 19:14 |
| setite | i like wpa | 19:14 |
| setite | i think wpa can be cracked too though... now | 19:14 |
| kupesoft | setite: Only if jack the ripper can guess your passphrase | 19:14 |
| * sp3000 had this issue with a few laptops that wouldn't really find an ap at one end of the available channel spectrum, moving to the other end helped | 19:15 | |
| setite | ya your right... i just read up on the wpa crack | 19:16 |
| setite | i feel safe again | 19:16 |
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| setite | i use wpa and mac filtering | 19:16 |
| setite | and i dont broadcast my ssid | 19:16 |
| setite | which seems to be makign my sirius stilletto angry | 19:17 |
| setite | it seems unable to see unbroadcast ssid | 19:17 |
| setite | even if configured already | 19:17 |
| setite | jack the ripper eh | 19:17 |
| setite | niceness | 19:17 |
| sp3000 | ahh, someone's packaged netcat | 19:19 |
| * sp3000 hugs | 19:19 | |
| setite | so im reading that radius is harder to crach than psk | 19:20 |
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| setite | anyoen familiar with radius | 19:20 |
| setite | my router supports it.. should i enable it | 19:20 |
| timelE61i | do you have a radius server? | 19:20 |
| melmoth | kjbad are you here ? | 19:21 |
| sp3000 | hrm, I can't have netcat keep listening on a port after a connection ends can I :\ | 19:21 |
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| setite | radius server? | 19:22 |
| timelE61i | you should be able to... | 19:22 |
| setite | what do you mean by radius server | 19:23 |
| melmoth | is it me or there are lots of issue about install manager telling an already installed package is not installed recently ? | 19:23 |
| setite | brb im gonna reboot my router to see if that fixes my nat | 19:23 |
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| setite | k back | 19:25 |
| setite | lets hope vnc works now | 19:25 |
| setite | is my port forwarding failing? | 19:25 |
| setite | maybe the only forwarding working is the upnp | 19:25 |
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| WhisperingVoices | Does anyone here have an N800 and a few minutes to spare to field some really basic queries? | 19:32 |
| sp3000 | hmm, should we have a bugzilla announce bot for triage fun? | 19:32 |
| sp3000 | considering the colume of changes on a regular day it should not exactly be disruptive | 19:33 |
| sp3000 | volume, even | 19:33 |
| melmoth | WhisperingVoices, ask anyway, people may reply (as far as i m concern, i only have 10 mn) | 19:33 |
| * sp3000 is so very accustomed to firebotspam ;) | 19:33 | |
| WhisperingVoices | Okay. I'm considering buying an N800, but I haven't used Linux much before. How much of a hassle is it to keep upgraded, also there appear to be two expansion cards with slightly different appearances. Does this mean there are two slots of different types and I get one slot per card? Is it purely aesthetic? These are questions I haven't been able to answer from reviews or Googling. Thanks. | 19:35 |
| WhisperingVoices | Just two really simple questions :) | 19:35 |
| melmoth | keeping it upgraded is a bit of a hassle, compared to regular linux distribution | 19:36 |
| melmoth | you have to "reflash" the machine from scratch, and then reinstall all the application you like. | 19:36 |
| melmoth | plus reset things to your liking. | 19:36 |
| WhisperingVoices | Oh :/ | 19:36 |
| melmoth | I have 2 slot on mine, same card format. one external (near the usb port), another internal. | 19:37 |
| melmoth | external one behave funny sometimes. :-( | 19:37 |
| WhisperingVoices | In that case, one additional question - I use WINE to run a PC application called "Brainstorm" which I find really useful, one of my laptops. Is the N800 likely to be able to do that? I would ask if there were any Linux Brainstorm-like applications but I don't know how to classify it | 19:37 |
| melmoth | no, do not hope that much. | 19:38 |
| melmoth | i mean to use wine on the n800 | 19:38 |
| melmoth | windows binary are for i386, this is an arm, i doubt it may work . | 19:38 |
| melmoth | what is brainstorm doing ? | 19:39 |
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| WhisperingVoices | It's an organisational software. I'll send you the website in query so I don't get hit for advertising or something. | 19:40 |
| WhisperingVoices | Basically you can just type stuff in headings and directories and it ends up organised. | 19:41 |
| melmoth | i do not know of a similar program... But may be the GPE set of tools has a similar stuff ? | 19:41 |
| melmoth | if you dont find it in GPE , search freshmeat.net | 19:41 |
| melmoth | then , try to port it :) | 19:41 |
| melmoth | you may try that out without the tablet, by using scratchbox and so on? | 19:42 |
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| WhisperingVoices | Thanks, I'll look into that | 19:42 |
| sp3000 | timelE61i: was there something you wanted to do about bugs alias=in-*? I only see one atm | 19:44 |
| timelE61i | chage to int- | 19:45 |
| sp3000 | done | 19:45 |
| timelE61i | also nb- or nb#- | 19:45 |
| sp3000 | 12 | 19:47 |
| timelE61i | we should have a wiki page documenting these practices | 19:48 |
| setite | ok this vnc shit is pissing me off.. anyone use RealVNC??? | 19:49 |
| * sp3000 makes some bugspam documenting the practice | 19:49 | |
| sp3000 | 0 | 19:50 |
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| pupnik | melmoth: it would be theoretically possible to run wine with bochs | 19:58 |
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| ekim|irc_ | Can you guys help me get flash9 installed | 20:15 |
| ekim|irc_ | I was looking here | 20:15 |
| ekim|irc_ | http://browser.maemo.org/news/6 | 20:15 |
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| ekim|irc_ | but I dont understand where to put it | 20:16 |
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| ekim|irc_ | PLEASE :( | 20:19 |
| ekim|irc_ | Is it a secret ? | 20:22 |
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| * ekim|irc_ is growing impatient | 20:24 | |
| ekim|irc_ | will someone please tell me ? | 20:26 |
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| * ekim|irc_ is growing frustrated | 20:27 | |
| ekim|irc_ | is anyone here ? | 20:28 |
| setite | flash9 is not installed? | 20:28 |
| truent | anyone know if there is still a gnail notifier maintained for the n800? i cant find anything but past posts about it | 20:32 |
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| truent | err gmail | 20:32 |
| sbz | ekim|irc_: it seems mozilla-engine support flash 9 http://browser.garage.maemo.org/docs/browser_paper.html#s4 | 20:33 |
| kaltsi | truent: I think you can find it in the tableteer.nokia.com site (with the N800) | 20:34 |
| truent | k i'll check it out thx | 20:34 |
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| kaltsi | np | 20:35 |
| ekim|irc_ | I only have the 770 | 20:39 |
| ekim|irc_ | also...I can't get openssh to work | 20:39 |
| ekim|irc_ | I instaleld both the openssh-server and client packages | 20:39 |
| ekim|irc_ | what now ? | 20:39 |
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| _Monkey | now is probably 6.00 a.m | 20:39 |
| timelE61 | _monkey forget now | 20:40 |
| _Monkey | timelE61: I forgot now | 20:40 |
| ekim|irc_ | what now ? | 20:40 |
| timelE61 | _monkey now is <reply> | 20:40 |
| _Monkey | OK, timelE61. | 20:40 |
| ekim|irc_ | what now ? ... | 20:40 |
| ekim|irc_ | Seriously | 20:40 |
| ekim|irc_ | Hmm | 20:41 |
| timelE61 | anyone know a finnkino in helsinki still showing hp? | 20:42 |
| pupnik | i haven't tried flash on microb | 20:42 |
| pupnik | i would like to help ekim|irc_ | 20:43 |
| ekim|irc_ | :) | 20:43 |
| ekim|irc_ | Do you have an n800 | 20:43 |
| ekim|irc_ | or a 770 | 20:43 |
| pupnik | 770 | 20:43 |
| pupnik | did you reboot after installing openssh-server? | 20:43 |
| sbz | kaltsi: the name of the package with apt is mnotify | 20:43 |
| pupnik | (i'm not sure that is necessary) | 20:44 |
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| ekim|irc_ | I dont get it | 20:44 |
| ekim|irc_ | I do /etc/init.d/ssh start | 20:44 |
| ekim|irc_ | and it starts the server | 20:44 |
| ekim|irc_ | I can access it from localhost | 20:44 |
| kaltsi | sbz ok good to know | 20:44 |
| ekim|irc_ | but not over the network | 20:45 |
| ekim|irc_ | whats the deal ? | 20:45 |
| ekim|irc_ | also...when I run sshd it gives me an error | 20:45 |
| ekim|irc_ | whats up with that | 20:45 |
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| pupnik | there is a problem | 20:45 |
| ekim|irc_ | "sshd re-exec requires execution with an absolute path" | 20:45 |
| ekim|irc_ | what does that mean | 20:45 |
| inz | timel, tomorrow tennispalatsi9 12:30, 16:00, 19:30 / kinopalatsi5 13:30, 17:00, 20:00 | 20:46 |
| inz | doh, he left already | 20:46 |
| pupnik | ekim|irc_: i haven't seen it - have you pasted that error into a google search? | 20:46 |
| ekim|irc_ | duoh :( | 20:46 |
| ekim|irc_ | of course | 20:46 |
| ekim|irc_ | Ohh | 20:47 |
| ekim|irc_ | fixed it :) | 20:47 |
| ekim|irc_ | I needed an absolute path (duh) | 20:47 |
| ekim|irc_ | so instead of typing sshd , I needed to type /usr/sbin/sshd | 20:47 |
| ekim|irc_ | but still nothing | 20:48 |
| _Monkey | nothing is hsowing up on the protocol list | 20:48 |
| ekim|irc_ | I think its bound to 127.0.0.1 | 20:48 |
| pupnik | good grief... dropbear is plug-n-play | 20:49 |
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| timelE61 | _monkey fl | 20:51 |
| _Monkey | timelE61: excuse me? | 20:51 |
| timelE61 | _monkey forget nothing | 20:51 |
| _Monkey | timelE61: I forgot nothing | 20:51 |
| timelE61 | _monkey. Nothing is < | 20:51 |
| pupnik | nothing? | 20:52 |
| pupnik | btw timelE61 i'd fixed it in PM already | 20:52 |
| pupnik | to keep the noise down, lets train the monkey in private message | 20:52 |
| ekim|irc_ | pupnik, ... your right | 20:52 |
| ekim|irc_ | forget openssh | 20:52 |
| _Monkey | ekim|irc_: I forgot openssh | 20:52 |
| ekim|irc_ | not you monkey | 20:53 |
| ekim|irc_ | remember openssh | 20:53 |
| timelE61 | _monkey: nothing is <reply> | 20:53 |
| ekim|irc_ | Hmm | 20:53 |
| _Monkey | OK, timelE61. | 20:53 |
| ekim|irc_ | monkey sucks | 20:53 |
| timelE61 | yes | 20:53 |
| pupnik | that global forgetting needs to be fixed | 20:54 |
| ekim|irc_ | you know how you can add plugins to the status bar | 20:54 |
| ekim|irc_ | or whatever you call it | 20:54 |
| ekim|irc_ | how many of them are there ? | 20:54 |
| timelE61 | infinite? | 20:55 |
| timelE61 | you can write your own... | 20:55 |
| ekim|irc_ | I mean how many of them are there already made... | 20:55 |
| ekim|irc_ | how can I upgrade a package | 20:55 |
| ekim|irc_ | with dpkg | 20:55 |
| timelE61 | how would anyone know? | 20:55 |
| ekim|irc_ | I want to upgrade busybox | 20:55 |
| timelE61 | you don't want to | 20:56 |
| ekim|irc_ | why not | 20:56 |
| ekim|irc_ | there is an upgraded version | 20:56 |
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| ekim|irc_ | but when I do dpkg -i UpgradedVersionOfBusybox.deb | 20:56 |
| ekim|irc_ | it gives me an error | 20:56 |
| timelE61 | quoteth yoda: that is the path to the dark side | 20:56 |
| ekim|irc_ | Why not ? | 20:57 |
| ekim|irc_ | seriously | 20:58 |
| ekim|irc_ | Tell me | 20:58 |
| whaq | is it possible to run Zaurus apps on N800? | 20:58 |
| ekim|irc_ | why does it take like 10 minutes for a response... | 20:58 |
| ekim|irc_ | is there bad lag | 20:59 |
| whaq | I'm hoping to run Picsel Viewer on the N800.. that'll fit real nice with IT concept. Just a very capable viewer for office files (and bunch of other formats), but not full-blown office suite. | 21:00 |
| pupnik | i think evince runs on nokia | 21:00 |
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| pupnik | ekim|irc_: when i don't know an answer i generally don't bother typing it out | 21:01 |
| ekim|irc_ | it does , yeah | 21:01 |
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| pupnik | and no, zaurus binaries do not run on nokia tablets | 21:01 |
| ekim|irc_ | whaq , zaurus apps probably wont run very well on the n800 because they need to be hildonized | 21:01 |
| ekim|irc_ | They wont run at all ? | 21:01 |
| ekim|irc_ | its the same archetecture isnt it ? | 21:01 |
| ekim|irc_ | architecture | 21:01 |
| timelE61 | sp3000: seems i forgot versions for docs | 21:02 |
| whaq | picsel is like evince on crack | 21:03 |
| ekim|irc_ | drugs are bad | 21:03 |
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| whaq | in the good hyperactively workable state.. not the addict phase afterward | 21:03 |
| sp3000 | timelE61: who/when is supposed to use versions? I can't resolve x.y to product releases without a decoder ring | 21:05 |
| sp3000 | I'm not sure if that's necessarily a problem | 21:06 |
| timelE61 | heh | 21:07 |
| timelE61 | we can set the roadmap link | 21:07 |
| timelE61 | year-2004 = major | 21:08 |
| ekim|irc_ | I dont get it | 21:08 |
| ekim|irc_ | why do all requests to my 770's ip time out | 21:08 |
| timelE61 | Prefix - 1 = minor | 21:09 |
| ekim|irc_ | Ohh | 21:09 |
| ekim|irc_ | the correct ip *MIGHT* help | 21:09 |
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| timelE61 | Sp3000? | 21:10 |
| timelE61 | could you copy describecomponents.cgi for nokia 770 / browser? | 21:11 |
| timelE61 | ok, bourne is starting | 21:11 |
| sp3000 | Web browser (includes Opera and MicroB engines, Bookmarks, UI, and Flash) | 21:12 |
| timelE61 | K, i'll grab from log | 21:13 |
| qgil | timelE61: hi! well congratulations - this look *so* good now | 21:13 |
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| qgil | I'm filing my first bug in the new configuration | 21:13 |
| timelE61 | is there a component for xserver? | 21:14 |
| timelE61 | qgil :) | 21:14 |
| ekim|irc_ | has anyone tried to run an alternative window mansger ? | 21:14 |
| timelE61 | i'm about to watch bourne | 21:14 |
| qgil | timelE61: I believe this default description is *too* thick, it scares people | 21:14 |
| timelE61 | bye all | 21:15 |
| sbz | yeaaaah i get back my opml from google to n800 without any problem | 21:17 |
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| melmoth | anybody has an idea why the application manager would tell a given package is missing although it s present in the repository ? | 21:40 |
| melmoth | and even on the tablet ? | 21:40 |
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| Blacksitox | brb | 21:45 |
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| cambba | anyone used catota? | 21:49 |
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| cambba | I'm trying to play a mythtv stream, but I'm running into strange error, like I'm missing some python module. Complains about call to "parse_qsl". | 21:53 |
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| kulve | melmoth: try checking the AM logs or try with apt-get | 21:54 |
| melmoth | i do not have the problem, but 3 people reported it already :( | 21:55 |
| melmoth | https://garage.maemo.org/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=1094&group_id=200&atid=820 | 21:56 |
| red-zack | hi all | 21:56 |
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| red-zack | i am searching for an ftp client for my 770 os 06. anybody know one? | 21:57 |
| Blacksitox | re | 21:57 |
| qgil | red-zack: would sftp work as well? | 21:58 |
| red-zack | repo? or where to find? | 21:58 |
| qgil | red-zack: http://downloads.maemo.org/product/openssh-client | 21:58 |
| red-zack | mh, openssh. sure..thanks.. | 21:59 |
| erstazi | red-zack: yeah use ssh and not ftp (: much more secure | 21:59 |
| qgil | red-zack: also http://downloads.maemo.org/product/tnftp/ - all I'm doing is... using the search at maemo.org :) a tip for you next time | 22:00 |
| red-zack | lol. i havent found ftp things at all. my foolniss. | 22:00 |
| red-zack | sry | 22:00 |
| erstazi | _Monkey: openssh-client is the portable version of OpenSSH, a free implementation of the Secure Shell protocol. This package contains client side utilities: ssh, scp, sftp, ssh-agent, etc... http://downloads.maemo.org/product/openssh-client | 22:01 |
| _Monkey | OK, erstazi. | 22:01 |
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| erstazi | _Monkey: tell erstazi about openssh-client | 22:01 |
| _Monkey | i guess openssh-client is the portable version of OpenSSH, a free implementation of the Secure Shell protocol. This package contains client side utilities: ssh, scp, sftp, ssh-agent, etc... http://downloads.maemo.org/product/openssh-client | 22:01 |
| erstazi | that didn't work ugh, its suppose to message me | 22:02 |
| zuh | You could privmsg it too I guess | 22:13 |
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| keesj | openssh++ | 22:27 |
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| Ciapo | hi to all | 22:41 |
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| Muzero | i have some troubles with jalimo, repository doesn't works! | 22:42 |
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| TheGame | In the logs there's alot about palms, is that stuff still discussed? | 22:54 |
| erstazi | TheGame: Palms as in the devices? or software? | 23:00 |
| TheGame | devices, palm treo 650 | 23:01 |
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| VRe | Is there some quick way to change default font size smaller? | 23:47 |
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