| suihkulokki | err, since when does making a debian package need a makefile with correctly set dependencies | 00:00 |
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| lle2 | suihkulokki: maybe that started today? trends come and go so fast these days | 00:01 |
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| Mikho | well, I started out following the debian maintenance tutorial and it happily assumed there's a makefile in the program root, and dh_make seemed to complain about it so I assumed I need a makefile | 00:02 |
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| lle2 | doesn't the tutorial contain a sample makefile or something? | 00:03 |
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| Mikho | in addition, there doesn't seem to be a reasonable choice of IDE that would manage makefiles for me | 00:03 |
| lle2 | aha, now we can redo the IDE discussion from earlier | 00:04 |
| Mikho | yes | 00:04 |
| Mikho | anjuta just seems to complicate things | 00:04 |
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| zuh | IDE:s usually do ;) | 00:05 |
| Mikho | I'm beginning to understand why people say things like vi/vim/emacs when I ask for IDE recommendations | 00:05 |
| suihkulokki | just download some existing application sources and build it | 00:07 |
| Mikho | hey, "g++ -E -M `pkg-config hildon-libs --cflags` main.cpp" seems to work! | 00:07 |
| Mikho | woo-hoo | 00:07 |
| lle2 | IDE would be ok if nokia preconfigured it and created wizards and shit to make the whole thing painless, but since nokia doesn't do that, IDEs suck | 00:08 |
| konttori | I still think the best way would be a perfectly made vmware image. (but that's just me) | 00:11 |
| edistar | I'd like that! | 00:11 |
| edistar | or qemu.. | 00:11 |
| gla55 | lle2: carbide.c++ is starting to be okayish for symbian dev..(well.. thats relative of course, since symbian tools are so crap) | 00:14 |
| Mikho | nice! I proceeded into linker errors when running make | 00:14 |
| Mikho | lle2: thanks! your tip was very helpful | 00:16 |
| Mikho | I actually managed to make my hello world by using custom Makefile | 00:16 |
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| lle2 | Mikho: np :) | 00:18 |
| Mikho | now for some fine tuning... | 00:18 |
| Mikho | is there a convention for placing compiled source (=object) files? | 00:19 |
| Mikho | src, bin or obj maybe? | 00:19 |
| lle2 | well, I typically leave them in the same dir as sources | 00:20 |
| derf | Everyone does. | 00:21 |
| Mikho | hmm, my makefile seems to throw them in the root, even though the sources are in src | 00:21 |
| derf | And tool support for putting them anywhere else is "poor", so you might as well get used to it. | 00:21 |
| Mikho | the rule is: | 00:21 |
| Mikho | %.o: %.cpp | 00:22 |
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| Mikho | (tab) $(CC) $(CFLAGS) -c $< | 00:22 |
| Mikho | VPATH variable is set to src | 00:23 |
| lle2 | get rid of the VPATH | 00:23 |
| Mikho | it'd still find the source file? | 00:23 |
| lle2 | should | 00:23 |
| lle2 | you should only need it if you want to support putting obj files into a separate dir tree | 00:24 |
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| Mikho | ok | 00:25 |
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| Mikho | now this is weird, it thinks main.o is compiled and tries to link even though it isn't ready | 00:29 |
| Mikho | it seems the generated dependency list somehow messes up the search for the real object file | 00:36 |
| Mikho | how can I combine the dependencies and the build instructions for main.o? | 00:37 |
| Mikho | actually, even if I remove the "include .depends", it can't find the rule to make object files | 00:38 |
| lle2 | I would do something like: | 00:38 |
| lle2 | objects = main.o | 00:38 |
| Mikho | why doesn't it suddencly accept %.o : %.cpp ? | 00:39 |
| lle2 | this is pointless | 00:39 |
| lle2 | there are millions of makefiles out there | 00:39 |
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| Mikho | oh, it says it can't find the rule even if it just can't find the source file | 00:40 |
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| Knowledge | is gnome an option for the n800 yet? | 01:08 |
| nomis | should it be? | 01:08 |
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| konttori | Have you seen the archos 704? 800x480 7" screen. Opera 9. | 01:16 |
| konttori | http://www.archos.com/products/video/archos_704wifi/index.html?country=global&lang=en | 01:16 |
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| Knowledge | nomis:....hmm, not really. | 01:28 |
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| nomis | Knowledge: if you're looking for alternatives to the hildon desktop you might want to have a look at GPE. | 01:31 |
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| Knowledge | nomis: I'm sorry if I sound ignorant, but is GPE Covered in the forums? | 01:31 |
| nomis | what forums? | 01:32 |
| Knowledge | iTt | 01:32 |
| nomis | Knowledge: no idea, I don't care about that forum. | 01:32 |
| nomis | Knowledge: http://gpe.linuxtogo.org/ | 01:32 |
| Knowledge | nomis: gotcha | 01:34 |
| Knowledge | thank you for the info | 01:34 |
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| n838901 | hello | 04:54 |
| n838901 | will maemo run on a sharp zaurus? | 04:55 |
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| Alecrim | hi all, I want to see mouse cursor in my device. does anyone know how to do it? | 05:07 |
| Alecrim | I'm using Xfbdev | 05:07 |
| Alecrim | sorry | 05:07 |
| Alecrim | I'm using maemo | 05:07 |
| Alecrim | maemo + fbdev | 05:08 |
| Alecrim | but when matchbox starts, mouse cursor disappear | 05:09 |
| Alecrim | any idea? | 05:09 |
| Alecrim | thanks in advance !! | 05:09 |
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| Alecrim | dragon: thanks for you last comment, I solved my problem with Xfbdev using parameter "-keybd keyboard" | 05:10 |
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| N800 | Human Interface Device profiles | 06:38 |
| N800 | supported by n800.... | 06:38 |
| N800 | i want to open a file with the extension .hid....its a remote control for winamp...... | 06:38 |
| N800 | any help on how i go about doing this? | 06:39 |
| N800 | my n800 is paired with my notebook... | 06:39 |
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| melmoth | konttori, gobject.GError: no element 'tremor' (in Mediacenter line 265 create GSTOGGPlayer) | 10:24 |
| melmoth | does this ring a bell of some sort ? | 10:25 |
| konttori | Yeah | 10:25 |
| konttori | You need to install ogg plugin. | 10:25 |
| konttori | http://ogg.garage.maemo.org/ogg-support.install | 10:25 |
| melmoth | oki. | 10:25 |
| melmoth | dont forget to set the dependencie in the deb file :) | 10:25 |
| melmoth | thanks for the info | 10:25 |
| konttori | I don't consider it a dependency, as not all need ogg support | 10:26 |
| konttori | And that package is not a small one, as you can see when you install it | 10:26 |
| konttori | I added a comment on ogg install to the blog post. | 10:27 |
| konttori | Also, ogg support isn't complete yet. It plays only one song at a time and you have to press the dpad right to move to next song. | 10:30 |
| melmoth | ah. | 10:30 |
| konttori | I recommend using mainly mp3 files. | 10:30 |
| melmoth | well; it s a start :) | 10:30 |
| melmoth | wont work with me. | 10:30 |
| melmoth | half of my music is in ogg | 10:30 |
| konttori | Yeah. I't only a matter of detecting end of file. | 10:30 |
| konttori | Look on the bright side: Half of it is in mp3! | 10:31 |
| melmoth | :) | 10:31 |
| konttori | Also, seeking doesn't work, as the ogg plugin doesn't support seeking (or so I've heard) | 10:31 |
| melmoth | oh, and what about having the skin color being a preference so one can avoid having 2 entry in the menu ? | 10:31 |
| konttori | Will come in future releases | 10:32 |
| melmoth | kewl | 10:32 |
| konttori | Just one of those comprmises one has to make sometimes. | 10:32 |
| melmoth | oh, cool, the volume buttons just work as it should :) | 10:33 |
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| konttori | Yeah. Although I was considering using them for next song/previous song at some point. | 10:34 |
| konttori | But then wen't for the 'official' approach of using dpad left/right | 10:34 |
| konttori | went even | 10:34 |
| melmoth | konttori, do you use the maemo svn repository daily ? | 10:42 |
| konttori | nope | 10:42 |
| melmoth | because i only see add, no updates . | 10:42 |
| melmoth | Hmm. Is there another repository one can checkout the latest and greatest devel version ? | 10:42 |
| konttori | Nope | 10:42 |
| melmoth | Hmm. | 10:42 |
| melmoth | any reason why you dont use the garage svn ? | 10:42 |
| melmoth | it would be... | 10:43 |
| melmoth | cool ? | 10:43 |
| konttori | Well, considering it's python, you can just unpack the deb to your hd and mess with the code | 10:43 |
| melmoth | yep, but i dont know what you may be working on | 10:43 |
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| konttori | Yeah. Reason is that I'm currently in the process of moving to use eclipse and my current editor doesn't support svn | 10:43 |
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| melmoth | Hey, just launch a "svn commit -m 'daily commit'" daily in a shell | 10:44 |
| konttori | I was using subetha edit for quite a long time. Now, that's a great collaborative coding system | 10:44 |
| melmoth | it will work whatever editor you are using | 10:44 |
| konttori | Hmm.. I'll consider that. | 10:45 |
| konttori | I could put that as a macro to komodo. | 10:46 |
| melmoth | i dont know, i just use emacs to edit file , and commit stuff with the svn commands when stuff works. | 10:48 |
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| melmoth | grumble; tuomas.kulve.fi does not seems to propose the ogg gstreamer thingy for i386... | 11:00 |
| kulve | those are for armel only | 11:02 |
| melmoth | i think i will have a closer look at gstreamer ogg and ukmp when everything will be smotthly commitable using svn on a scratchbox :) | 11:03 |
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| konttori | cool. | 11:03 |
| kulve | the ogg stuff is just upstream packages compiled to armel | 11:03 |
| kulve | plus the mime types etc for maemo | 11:04 |
| kulve | actually there is some small changes in ogg gst plugin.. | 11:04 |
| melmoth | :) | 11:04 |
| konttori | doesn't linux have ogg support by default (on desktop)? | 11:04 |
| kulve | yup | 11:04 |
| melmoth | please put stuff on a svn somewhere, or at least a repo with the src deb | 11:04 |
| kulve | (of course) | 11:04 |
| kulve | melmoth: I didn't see it neccessary to put those in svn, since they mostly the untouched upstream packages.. | 11:05 |
| kulve | I could keep the (small) patches in svn though.. | 11:05 |
| konttori | melmoth: If you are up to it, it would be great if ogg would switch from GST_STATE_PLAYING to something else when it finishes playing. | 11:05 |
| konttori | e.g. GST_STATE_NULL | 11:06 |
| konttori | or GST_STATE_PAUSED (or whatever) | 11:06 |
| kulve | konttori: hmm..? | 11:06 |
| melmoth | i know nothing about gstreamer, but after a first feel of ukmp, it is worth taking some times to see if it s a trivial stuff to do, and then try, or not, and then wait somebody does it :) | 11:06 |
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| konttori | Well, I can probably do it in ukmp as well in a few steps another way, but it would just make sense to fix the ogg gstreamer component as well (as other programs might like to use it as well) | 11:08 |
| konttori | Also, would rock if it could give current position in some format. | 11:09 |
| konttori | I'm currently querying: self.player.query_position(gst.FORMAT_TIME) | 11:09 |
| kulve | I think the stop/pause/play with oggs (using the integer stuff) is working just fine | 11:09 |
| kulve | with the ivorbisdec | 11:09 |
| kulve | (or was it vorbisidec) | 11:10 |
| konttori | Ahh.. I'm using tremor. Should I switch to ivorbis? | 11:10 |
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| sbaturzioAtWork | Aloha! | 11:10 |
| kulve | konttori: I think you should try it out | 11:10 |
| melmoth | me too :) | 11:11 |
| konttori | Just put a package. | 11:11 |
| kulve | tremor didn't need oggdemux, right? ivorbis does, iirc. | 11:11 |
| konttori | Testing on device now | 11:11 |
| kulve | they should both be there | 11:11 |
| konttori | So, how should I change this to include the demux: gst.parse_launch( "gnomevfssrc name=source ! ivorbisdec name=decoder ! dsppcmsink name=sink" ) | 11:13 |
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| kulve | gnomevfssrc name=source ! oggdemux ! .. | 11:13 |
| AD-N770 | good morning | 11:13 |
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| konttori | dexing worked. It's playing a file now. | 11:21 |
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| konttori | I'll just ait until it stops playing and see i it's able to move to next song. | 11:21 |
| konttori | is ivorbis less stressfull for the processor? | 11:21 |
| konttori | than tremor | 11:21 |
| kulve | I think they are about the same | 11:22 |
| kulve | I would guess the actual codec is the same code | 11:22 |
| kulve | but I just wildly guessing here :) | 11:22 |
| kulve | +'m | 11:22 |
| konttori | worked perfectly | 11:24 |
| konttori | thanks! | 11:24 |
| kulve | np :) | 11:25 |
| melmoth | \o/ | 11:26 |
| konttori | I added a 1.3 dev to garage for you melmoth: https://garage.maemo.org/frs/download.php/1622/UKMP-1.3-dev.deb | 11:31 |
| konttori | So that you can play the other half as well ;) | 11:31 |
| konttori | ok, seeking doesn't work in that. | 11:32 |
| konttori | shame. | 11:32 |
| konttori | But it's already an improvement | 11:32 |
| kulve | yeah, we don't have seeking either | 11:32 |
| kulve | and we haven't really had time to check it out | 11:32 |
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| protocol2 | Does anybody know, how to use GUNIT in ARMEL target? | 11:41 |
| melmoth | konttori, cool i will probably have look at it tonight, or this week end :) | 11:43 |
| protocol2 | I have force installed the libgunit_0.5.2-2_arm.deb and gunit-hildon_0.1.2-1_arm.deb on the scracthbox. But I can not compile my gunit test code. It gives error "ERROR: Source object //usr/lib/libgunithildon.so has EABI version 0, but target test-send-receive has EABI version 4" | 11:43 |
| kulve | the debian architecture in maemo was arm long time ago. Now it's armel | 11:44 |
| kulve | so you need new versions of those deb packages | 11:44 |
| kulve | recompiling should be enough | 11:44 |
| protocol_ | kulve: Where to find armel deb packages for those libraries? | 11:45 |
| kulve | dunno, I have no idead what gunit is | 11:45 |
| kulve | -d | 11:46 |
| protocol_ | kulve: gunit is for unit test. | 11:46 |
| kulve | where did you get them? | 11:46 |
| protocol_ | https://garage.maemo.org/frs/?group_id=112 | 11:46 |
| protocol_ | But there is no packages for armel target. | 11:47 |
| kulve | try getting the .dsc and .tar.gz | 11:47 |
| kulve | then dpkg-source -x file.dsc | 11:47 |
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| kulve | then cd justcreateddireectory | 11:47 |
| kulve | then dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot | 11:47 |
| protocol_ | kulve: I will try it now, thanks a lot. | 11:48 |
| kulve | that will produce you the armel debs *if* the APIs haven't changed (and they are at least somewhat) | 11:49 |
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| shmuma | Hello, all! Have anyone configured WPA-EAP on n800? I imported my certificate, but it doesn't appear in combobox in connection manager. | 13:35 |
| konttori | By the way will nokia lauch the firmware tomorrow? | 13:37 |
| Sho_ | konttori: Hm what firmware? | 13:38 |
| konttori | next firmware | 13:38 |
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| konttori | well, it's been speculated that might be coming soon. At least on the internettablettalk forums | 13:40 |
| konttori | Can't remember where they got the impression that it would be coming out now | 13:40 |
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| Gathaja | I have Gtk::TreeView in my program which I'm clearing and updating. If I tap treeview furiously it will give "GLIB-GObject g_value_unset: assertion G_IS_VALUE(value) failed", some other critical errors and finally segmentation fault. Would someone know why this is happening? | 13:52 |
| melmoth | Gathaja, i had a similar issues. | 13:53 |
| melmoth | wait , let me find the bug again | 13:53 |
| melmoth | but dont be too happy, it s still in NEW state :) | 13:53 |
| Gathaja | :) | 13:53 |
| melmoth | https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1450 | 13:54 |
| melmoth | it segfaulted when i was recreating a fresh model | 13:54 |
| melmoth | if i just clear() the model, everything is fine | 13:54 |
| melmoth | so i really dont know if it the same as you. | 13:54 |
| Gathaja | yep, I clear it and then put new rows to the model | 13:56 |
| Gathaja | seems I need to make an account to that page | 13:56 |
| melmoth | i dont know. When in doubt, it may be a better idea to open a separate bug | 13:57 |
| melmoth | Gathaja, if you can make a short test case, posting it on the maemo devel list may help as well | 13:58 |
| melmoth | there was an interesting one recently (that ended up in bugzilla anyway :) ) | 13:58 |
| Gathaja | okay | 14:00 |
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| Gathaja | hmm, seems that there's no unset_model() in gtkmm eventhough it's in the documentation | 14:22 |
| Gathaja | for treeview | 14:22 |
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| taneli | why does gnome_vfs_open report "invalid uri"? | 14:45 |
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| kulve | maybe you have invalid uri? | 14:46 |
| taneli | it works in browser ... | 14:47 |
| Juhaz | browsers go to amazing lenghts to deal with crappy input. | 14:47 |
| Juhaz | what's the uri? | 14:47 |
| taneli | here's one: http://mt0.google.com/mt?n=404?v=w2.17&x=8&y=8&zoom=13 | 14:49 |
| Juhaz | works here | 14:51 |
| Juhaz | but maybe th eextra question mark is the issue. does http://mt0.google.com/mt?n=404%3fv=w2.17&x=8&y=8&zoom=13 work? | 14:52 |
| kulve | taneli: is your opemode correct? | 14:52 |
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| Juhaz | actually it should almost certainly be & | 14:54 |
| MikaT | Hey all. I need to create a CGI app for N770 that digs stuff from the addressbook. I was going to open the abook with osso_abook_init_with_name etc. but this needs osso_context and I can't get osso_initialize to return it. Is there something that prevents osso_initialize from within a CGI? | 14:55 |
| taneli | kulve: GNOME_VFS_OPEN_READ right? | 14:56 |
| kulve | taneli: yep | 14:56 |
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| taneli | It appears that http://<anything> gives invalid uri, what could be wrong... | 15:11 |
| inz | maybe your gnome-vfs doesn't support http? | 15:12 |
| taneli | that's possible, why wouldn't it? I'm on N800 | 15:13 |
| inz | at least there seems to be libhttp.so on 770 | 15:15 |
| zuh | 'gnomevfs-cat http://google.com' seems to work ok on N800 | 15:17 |
| taneli | as it does here, now I'm puzzled ... | 15:18 |
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| Bobsworth | Hi, i'm having a really annoying bug with text input with opera: http://img521.imageshack.us/img521/1674/n800bugwi9.png | 16:55 |
| Bobsworth | Anybody else experiencing this? | 16:55 |
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| Bobsworth | Anybody that can help me? | 16:58 |
| osfameron | I have problems with the on screen keyboard going insane and CApitaLIzing things oddly in Opera | 16:59 |
| osfameron | but not that particular problem no | 16:59 |
| Bobsworth | It's pretty frustrating. I have to write things in the notepad then paste them over. | 17:00 |
| osfameron | yeah, me too | 17:01 |
| osfameron | or, even better, on a laptop and then transfer them across the USB cable :-) | 17:01 |
| Bobsworth | Other apps work fine with text input, just opera that borks | 17:04 |
| inz | Didn't get that on 770 at least | 17:04 |
| tigert | Bobsworth: yeah, its a known issue I think | 17:07 |
| Bobsworth | Hmm, opera doesn't appear in the application manager, so I can't easily reinstall it, or did they give it some other name? | 17:08 |
| tigert | its part of the base system | 17:08 |
| Bobsworth | Tigert, haven't seen anything alse about it on the internet | 17:08 |
| osfameron | I keep on meaning to check bug reports for N800 and file them if they're not there... but I'm too lazy | 17:09 |
| osfameron | and there's so many bugs that it would just take too long... | 17:09 |
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| Bobsworth | Text handling in minimo isn't too good either, it keeps closing the full screen keyboard | 17:11 |
| Bobsworth | And doesn't show the text of the field when it does let you open it | 17:12 |
| Bobsworth | Or is it just my tablet? | 17:13 |
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| * Sho_ can't get Minimo installed because the download times out all the time ... great server | 17:22 | |
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| inz | hmm, did someone trip over the power cord of bugs.maemo.org ;) | 17:32 |
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| Bobsworth | This really illustrate my problem, I entered the numbers ONCE opening and closing the keyboard a few times, look what happens: http://www.glowfoto.com/viewimage.php?y=2007&m=06&img=14-073132L&t=png&rand=6794&srv=img5 | 17:35 |
| inz | Bobs, open-close-open-close causes trouble on 770 too | 17:40 |
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| Bobsworth | Is it as bad as that? Aren't there any fixes? | 17:43 |
| timeless | hello world | 17:45 |
| * timeless is looking for someone familiar w/ apt and dist-upgrade | 17:45 | |
| timeless | specifically i'm wondering if i can do apt dist-upgrade -r /some_other_root | 17:46 |
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| zbrown | Is it possible to run thttpd with python pages being served to create an ajax application with the maemo platform? | 17:50 |
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| Bobsworth | timeless, doesn't look like you're gonna get much help here. My knowledge barely extends beyond apt-get moo :P | 17:51 |
| * timeless nods | 17:52 | |
| timeless | i should just try it | 17:52 |
| melmoth | sounds like a famoust last word... | 17:53 |
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| inz | zbrown, at least you can use nginx and php ;) | 17:54 |
| zbrown | hmmm | 17:56 |
| Mikho | I managed to set up my hello world using autotools \o/ | 17:56 |
| Mikho | now, making the debian package should be simple | 17:57 |
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| inz | Hmm, I think I should update my nginx package | 18:00 |
| inz | The current package is 0.5.13 and current nginx is 0.5.25 | 18:00 |
| Bobsworth | So, no advice on opera textarea borking? | 18:06 |
| Bobsworth | Well, goodbye then | 18:08 |
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| JMFX | hello | 18:10 |
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| JMFX | can some guru help me? How can I run osso-backup with root priveleges? | 18:11 |
| JMFX | the only way i have found so far to launch it from terminal is through maemo-invoker: exec maemo-invoker /usr/bin/osso-backup.launch | 18:12 |
| JMFX | The funny thing is that ps shows maemo-invoker running as root, with child process osso-backup.launch running as "user". | 18:12 |
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| JMFX | can some guru help me? How can I run osso-backup with root priveleges? | 18:50 |
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| JMFX | hello! How can I run osso-backup with root priveleges? | 18:51 |
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| inz | JMFX, a) it is not very polite to keep asking the same question over and over, b) why do you need to, c) run-standalone.sh maemo-summoner /usr/bin/osso-backup.launch | 18:53 |
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| JMFX | inz, thank you for reply, I am just mad with that simplest thing that just does not work. I need to be able to backup and restore my custom settings after reflash without manual chmoding. run-standalone.sh does not work from console for osso-backup. The only way i have found so far to launch it from terminal is through maemo-invoker: exec maemo-invoker /usr/bin/osso-backup.launch. The funny thing is that ps shows maemo-invoker running as root, with child process | 19:18 |
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| `0660 | i didn't know they already published the new firmware :) | 19:21 |
| `0660 | hmm, i should probably add "new firmware" to my hilights :) | 19:23 |
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| JMFX | inz, thank you very much, "run-standalone.sh maemo-summoner /usr/bin/osso-backup.launch" perfectly worked from root console. | 19:28 |
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| * Mikho issues an official thanks for everyone who's helped me with my efforts in installing a hello-world program on the n770 device | 20:42 | |
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| Mikho | I finally made it | 20:42 |
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| Mikho | -> beer | 20:42 |
| _Shurik_ | congrats! | 20:43 |
| _Shurik_ | I will be messing with it next and pretty sure will ask you some questions :) | 20:43 |
| Mikho | I'd be happy to help everyone with the problems I've faced and solved thus far | 20:45 |
| _Shurik_ | awsome! | 20:45 |
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| fish_ | ah crap, that sucks | 21:25 |
| fish_ | my n770 keeps rebooting.. only the "NOKIA" splash comes up and after a few seconds it reboots again | 21:27 |
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| _Shurik_ | gotta re-flash it from linux | 21:27 |
| fish_ | but whats the problem? | 21:27 |
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| _Shurik_ | did you just flash a new kernel? | 21:28 |
| fish_ | no | 21:28 |
| _Shurik_ | just happened? | 21:28 |
| fish_ | i have this problem since a few month, normaly it comes up again after some dozen times rebooting | 21:29 |
| _Shurik_ | I would re-flash it really | 21:29 |
| _Shurik_ | that happened to me when I was upgrading firmware. Well... on my n800 | 21:29 |
| _Shurik_ | I don't have 770 | 21:29 |
| _Shurik_ | but before any servicing I would reflash the whole thing | 21:29 |
| fish_ | can i backup my n770 image with the flasher somehow? | 21:36 |
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| trevarth1n | Is there any way to increase the number of simultaneous SSH logins allowed in maemo? 6 seems like too few. I need at least 8. | 21:58 |
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| `0660 | why not use screen? | 22:00 |
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| trevarth1n | I can't install it on my n800 for some reason. Some missing dep. | 22:02 |
| trevarth1n | Doesn't screen use a TTY? | 22:02 |
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| Sho_N800 | why do you need that many, btw? | 22:07 |
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| kakos | Has there been a new firmware release for the N800 recently? | 22:11 |
| Sho_N800 | kakos: in may, afaik | 22:14 |
| kakos | Hmmm | 22:15 |
| kakos | I kept hearing talk about a firmware with Skype or some crap | 22:15 |
| kakos | Wondering if I missed something | 22:15 |
| trevarth1n | Sho_N800: development crap. Need lotsa sessions. | 22:15 |
| trevarth1n | kakos: think that's due Q4 or something. | 22:16 |
| trevarth1n | later this year anyway. | 22:16 |
| Sho_N800 | trevarth1n: ah. just got mine the other day, no dev'ing yet. | 22:17 |
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| * kakos wants a new firmware NOW | 22:18 | |
| _Shurik_ | why? | 22:18 |
| _Shurik_ | what's wrong with old one? | 22:18 |
| kakos | Nothing | 22:19 |
| _Shurik_ | :) | 22:19 |
| kakos | I just want new hawtness | 22:19 |
| _Shurik_ | I'm just happy that it reads hchd | 22:19 |
| _Shurik_ | eerr hcsd | 22:19 |
| kakos | The old one? | 22:19 |
| _Shurik_ | well, after kernel update | 22:19 |
| kakos | I was going to say. ;) | 22:20 |
| trevarth1n | I hope they include sdhc in the next firmware. They're gay if they don't since it's available right now in an alternate kernel. | 22:20 |
| kakos | I hope they include SDHC and USB Host | 22:20 |
| trevarth1n | One thing the alternate kernel doesn't support is SDHC via the USB client thingy. I can't plug my n800 into my computer and use it as a card reader. Hope they fix that too. | 22:22 |
| trevarth1n | I don't think USB host is getting fixed anytime soon. I think the kernel drivers are too flaky right now. You can look up the chipset on google and see discussions about it on the linux kernel list. | 22:23 |
| kakos | trevarth1n: I can do it with mine | 22:24 |
| trevarth1n | you using an SDHC card? | 22:24 |
| kakos | Yeah | 22:24 |
| trevarth1n | huh... maybe it's my kernel on the desktop machine then. | 22:24 |
| trevarth1n | oh well. | 22:24 |
| kakos | What isn't yours doing? | 22:25 |
| _Shurik_ | I think once n800 is patched to read sdhc, then you can read them via USB | 22:25 |
| _Shurik_ | at least I can access my 8gig SD via usb when connected to pc | 22:25 |
| trevarth1n | I can't see my SDHC card. It complains. Probably need to upgrade my kernel on the desktop machine. | 22:25 |
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| trevarth1n | I could try it with my windows host, but I'm too lazy to find a USB cable right now. | 22:26 |
| _Shurik_ | does you n800 see the SD? | 22:27 |
| kakos | The only problem I had was mounting the card via USB if I have two partitions on my card | 22:27 |
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| trevarth1n | _Shurik_: Yeah, of course. | 22:29 |
| _Shurik_ | hm I se | 22:29 |
| _Shurik_ | e | 22:29 |
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| trevarth1n | hey.... how do I insert a RETURN keycode when using synergy and an xterm on my n800? It keeps popping up the virtual keyboard when I hit ENTER. | 22:38 |
| trevarth1n | nm... I figured it out. Enter on the keyboard's keypad actually inserts a return character on my n800's xterm. The normal Enter key pops up the virtual keyboard. | 22:43 |
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| kakos | Who runs the ITT forums? | 22:45 |
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| Andy80 | hi all | 23:48 |
| Andy80 | one quick question... | 23:48 |
| Andy80 | do you know if it's available a port of ices2 or darkice for n770/800? | 23:49 |
| Andy80 | I mean a client to send voice/stream to an IceCast server... | 23:49 |
| Andy80 | it would be very usefull for me | 23:49 |
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| Andy80 | ok... I'll porte both :) | 23:55 |
| Andy80 | port | 23:55 |
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