IRC log of #maemo for Tuesday, 2007-05-29

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chibiace:)00:21
chibiacecan anyone please tell me  how i can edit my hosts  file?00:22
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b0unc3chibiace: vi /etc/hosts00:23
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chibiacelol vi is not my thing, i tried echo blah >> hosts00:24
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chibiaceperhaps my problem is becomming root00:26
b0unc3chibiace: two choices: enabling R&D mode or install becameroot00:27
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chibiacewhich is better/easier00:28
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b0unc3install becameroot package00:29
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chibiacethanks!00:36
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* pupnik ponders05:00
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* pupnik wants IT2007 theme without border around window05:07
pupnikmo pixels mo bettuh05:08
trevarthanlol bettuh05:08
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pupnik_quiet05:26
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pupnik71961600 May 29 04:22 wtmp05:30
pupniksheesh05:30
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pupniki see maemo-launcher frequently taking up 5% cpu in top06:40
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pupnikactually no, just occasionally - then bme occasionally at 1-5 %06:41
pupnikahh 'battery management entity' lol06:41
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unique311pupnik07:25
unique311news07:25
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unique311http://feelslikeburning.com/2006/04/16/reading-ebooks-on-the-nokia-770-with-fbreader07:25
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unique311screen rotate for the 770 fbreader is implemented in the app...07:26
pupnik? yeah07:26
unique311fbreader src07:26
pupnikxomap server has no rotated mode07:26
unique311and locate the code used....and try an implement it on the correct POSE src file07:26
unique311xomap?07:27
unique311server07:27
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pupnikjust agreeing that the application has to rotate the display, and not the X server07:27
unique311ok07:28
zuhpupnik: Untrue: http://syslog.movial.fi/archives/7-xrandr-on-nokia-770.html07:28
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unique311so i should email the developer....07:28
pupnikhrm07:28
pupnikwith a stock kernel: true07:28
zuhBut naturally, that's not available out-of-the-box (as usual...)07:28
unique311double hmmmm07:29
unique311http://lemody.blogspot.com/2005/11/xrandr-o-2.html07:29
unique311doesn't that flip the screen07:30
zuh> Got any code? ;-)07:30
zuhheh :) eventually the feature will be there!07:30
zuhVaporware ;)07:30
unique311i think the code is the title...07:31
unique311not sure..07:31
pupnikhttp://home.arcor.de/arnim.sauerbier/POSE_0_01_Nokia_770_rot_kbd.jpg07:31
pupnikthat's double size with as big a tap keyboard as will fit07:31
unique311keyboard mapping might be difficult on that..07:32
pupnikwhat do you mean?07:33
unique311use the tungsten w with that mininal keyboard07:33
pupniklarger buttons?07:33
unique311do you have the skins folder available07:33
pupnikyes07:33
unique311open any file with the extension .skin07:34
unique311in a notepad07:34
unique311scroll all the way to the bottom....07:34
unique311should also be a readme in the skins directory07:34
unique311that explains how the mapping works...07:34
unique311not sure about that keyboard..07:34
zuhunique311: xrandr is just an extension to X, someone needs to write the part which tells the LCD chip to rotate. And I guess Nokia didn't see a need for it...07:36
unique311might be able to pull it off...with ur mockup...download the tungstenW emu....07:37
unique311yeah....nokia only saw it as an internet tablet...07:37
unique311wrong07:37
unique311sorry about that nokia devs....don't mind me....07:37
zuhI guess even web browsing could benefit from the rotation07:38
unique311not sure about that...07:39
pupniki can't find the tungsten skin.  Do you have a filename unique311 ?07:39
unique311hold on07:39
unique311on the other hand pupnik...07:42
unique311os 3.0 for the tungsten...07:42
unique311could go for the 4.2 os and hope the graffiti pad works...07:43
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pupnikno graffiti is too slow on the 77007:45
unique311k07:49
unique311zuh with this link the whole screen is screwed...07:50
unique311http://syslog.movial.fi/archives/7-xrandr-on-nokia-770.html07:50
unique311think  software route might be better...07:50
zuhDepends what you want of course07:52
unique311http://www.internettablettalk.com/2006/02/16/fbreader-072-rotates-text-180-270-degrees/07:52
zuhAnd how well the sw copes with it (as you can see, the older stuff really didn't)07:52
unique311a menu like so...07:52
zuhWell as said, since there is no support for rotating the screen out-of-the-box, sw is the only way to go07:54
zuhFor "user" applications07:54
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Free_maNit's possiblel to inject with aireplay for n770 ?10:47
Free_maNwith patch ...10:47
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fish_Free_maN: well, at least not without a patch10:57
Free_maNfish_, i have testing with aircrack-ng 0.9 on my network but it's not working10:59
fish_yes, i tried it too10:59
Free_maNwith atack 1 and 010:59
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fish_it looks like it injects something but actualy there seams to be nothing in the air11:00
Free_maNfish_, yes for me it's similar11:01
fish_but i'll guess it might be possible11:01
Free_maNit's no working for inject but with the patch https://garage.maemo.org/projects/cx3110x/11:02
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fish_s garage down atm?11:03
fish_+i11:03
dpb_works for me11:05
Free_maNdpb_,with patch ??11:05
Free_maNversion to aircrack ?11:05
dpb_i mean garage11:05
dpb_i have no idea what aircrack is.11:05
Free_maNoki ;)11:06
fish_Free_maN: which patch? the project is the whole driver..11:08
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Free_maNit's right fish_11:11
Free_maNcx3110x11:13
Free_maN(Nokia 770/800)cx3110xSeems to support injection (not confirmed)11:13
Free_maNwith http://aircrack-ng.org/doku.php?id=compatibility_drivers&DokuWiki=e509ebf18f206075690c0dc61929058411:13
fish_Free_maN: yes, i read that also somewhere11:19
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mk8Hi to all ...11:29
pupnik"new" WEP crack 12-15 times faster11:32
pupniki think in aircrack cvs11:32
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fish_do you talk about aircrack-ptw?11:34
fish_pupnik: the time you need to crack a wep key is not the problem. the problem _was_ to collect enough data11:36
fish_but with aircrack-ptw that isnt a problem anymore11:36
pupnikyea11:36
fish_but maybe they added the ptw attack in aircrack cvs11:37
pupnikthe ptw authors (from darmstadt) said this in an interview11:37
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fish_yes, i met them on the easterhegg. and eric also played with my n770 and aireplay, he doesn't get it running either11:38
pupnikcool11:38
pupnikwell i mean cool / too bad11:38
fish_but i compiled aircrack-ptw without problems for the n77011:39
fish_but without airreplay it isnt really usefull11:39
pupnikyes11:39
pupnikat least kismet works well for finding open nets11:40
fish_aircrack-ptw doesnt work well with passiv sniffing. you need to know parts of the sniffed packets. thats the case if you do arp re-injection but it doesnt work with random data11:40
pupnikah!11:40
pupniknow i get it :)11:40
fish_http://www.cdc.informatik.tu-darmstadt.de/aircrack-ptw/ <- thats the aircrack-ptw homepage11:41
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pupnikn770 needs a driver guru :)11:42
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unique311k, my device name is missing...11:43
unique311wtf11:43
unique311i start terminal and it shows ~/11:43
fish_well.. if thats your only problem ;)11:44
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unique311so how do i fix it11:44
pupnikthat's what i see normally11:45
fish_my device doesnt reboot properly. it starts and before i get the nokia hands splash it reboots again. and that may times. some reboots later its comes up11:45
unique311i use to see stan-Nokia-10 i thinker...11:45
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fish_unique311: what says 'hostname'11:46
fish_?11:46
fish_and what echo $PS111:46
unique311it says nokia-n800-1011:47
guardianmaemo.org tutorial and dev howtos are broken for nearly one month :( https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=130011:47
AD-N770good morning11:48
fish_unique311: and what whos echo $PS1?11:48
unique311echo $PS1 /w /$11:48
fish_than its normal ;)11:48
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pupnikhi AD-N770, guardian11:49
unique311why was i seeing the nokia-n800-10 before11:49
guardianhi11:49
fish_try export PS1="\u@\h \w " or something like that11:49
unique311something like that...no thanks...lol11:50
fish_or that: export PS1="\[\033[01;32m\]\u@\h\[\033[01;34m\] \w \$\[\033[00m\]"11:50
fish_thats the colored gentoo prompt ;)11:50
unique311hmmm11:50
oilsenores. how can I activate an script based on dbus-1 message "signal sender=:1.17 -> dest=(null destination) interface=com.nokia.icd; member=status_changed11:50
oil string "tupu"11:50
oilstring "WLAN_INFRA"11:50
oilstring "CONNECTED"11:50
oilstring ""11:50
fish_unique311: or go and rtfm: like that http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/linux/library/l-tip-prompt/11:51
oilI tried to make an script to /usr/share/dbus-1/services/foo.service11:51
oil[D-BUS Service]11:51
oilName=com.nokia.icd11:51
oilExec=/usr/local/bin/foo.sh11:51
unique311thanks fish...11:52
oilbut even after a reboot the /usr/local/bin/foo.sh script is not executed11:52
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pupnikyou can look at how acmonitor does it11:54
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oilpupnik: thanks. I'll try to investicate11:57
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pupnikoil, i don't know the right way - can't you just put something in /etc/rc*.d directory?11:58
oilpupnik: I wish to act when the WLAN finds an pre-defined ap and connects to it11:59
pupnikoh based on a dbus-message11:59
oilyes. I guess that would be the best way to do it?11:59
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pupnikfavorite scaler of these 4?  http://pupnik.de/ScalersExult.png12:40
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Fatalpupnik: imho, bottom right12:45
unique311top right12:46
Fatalpupnik: top right don't seem to be 2x, but 2x+something else12:46
pupnikit's bilinear filtered12:47
Fatals/top right/top left/12:47
pupnikhmm, interesting.12:47
infobotFatal meant: pupnik: top left don't seem to be 2x, but 2x+something else12:47
pupnikhaha @ infobot12:47
pupnikthe scaling algorithm is called "scale2x" and does smart interpolation ilke 2xsai12:48
pupnikunique311: top right surprises me ... but it would be fastest12:48
FatalI've always been against interpolation when avoidable12:49
gla55_top right or bottom left12:49
pupnikvery interesting.  i'll definitely look into the Xsp then.  thanks for the feedback!12:50
pupnikbottom left very slow12:50
gla55_top right then12:52
gla55_how far from "ready"?12:52
pupnikit's playable now12:53
gla55_nice, nice12:53
pupnikhttp://pupnik.de/exult770.html12:53
gla55_i should have loaded that last week..12:54
gla55_could have used a timekiller :)12:55
pupnikIt's pretty good.  Needs a bluetooth keyboard during game start.12:55
pupnikFor savegames, i insert the current date+time12:55
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pupnikoh, and the bad guy in the game is called 'The Guardian' ;)12:56
gla55_i know12:56
gla55_:)12:56
guardian?12:56
guardianam i the bad guy ?12:56
gla55_i bought it back in the day with weekly allowance :)12:56
gla55_yeah12:56
gla55_a red faced meanie12:56
pupnikhttp://www.owo.com/archive/ftp/graphics/ultima7/u7grdn4.gif12:57
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* pupnik hates code with too many layers 13:06
* pupnik <- confused puppy13:06
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yellowbughello everybody13:21
pupnikmoo13:21
yellowbughello pupnik, apt-get cann't resolv hostname while wget is ok, any suggestion?13:23
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yellowbugbora sdk with scratchbox13:23
yellowbugis this a stupid question?13:28
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sp3000yellowbug: giyf13:32
sp3000e.g. http://www.mail-archive.com/scratchbox-users@lists.scratchbox.org/msg00539.html13:32
sp3000is probably a start13:32
yellowbugthank u ~~~~13:34
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Gathajaoh, exellent. I had that problem too. Seems I was editing the wrong file x)13:38
unique311won't be able to use the tungsten w or any skin with a keyboard....unless you modify the skin.cpp src file also pupnik...13:41
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pupnikno skin with keyboard?  pupnik is sad.13:52
pupnikunique311: not even treo_270 ?13:52
unique311skins.cpp13:53
unique311heavy modifying..13:53
unique311right now only have code for 9 buttons..13:53
unique311if i counted right..13:53
* pupnik is trying to understand vcontrol.c in uqm13:54
unique311sorry for the flood..13:55
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tigerthttp://lolcode.com/15:03
tigertman15:05
Mithrandirtigert: it clearly needs hildon bindings15:06
tigertyeah15:06
pyhimysDoes the connection manager log to somewhere?15:07
pyhimysI can't seem to connect to an access point15:08
tigertperhaps dbus-monitor?15:09
pyhimysit uses wpa and I'm quite sure that I entered the preshared secret correctly15:09
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tigertand you are close enough?15:13
tigertto the ap?15:13
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pyhimystigert: maybe too close15:24
tigertpyhimys: hmm15:25
tigertI dont think the device logs much trying to conserve storage space15:25
pyhimysI managed to get connection while I was farther away15:25
tigertoh15:26
tigertokay15:26
tigertweird15:27
pyhimysYeah, and when I got closer it disconnected again?15:27
pyhimysThere's bad feng shui on my desk15:28
tigertweird :)15:29
tigertcan be that the signal is too strong or such and something in the driver gets confused? :)15:30
pupniki'm tipping on bad feng shui15:36
Free_maNmake -C /usr/src/kernel-source-2.6.16 SUBDIRS=/targets/test-nokia/usr/src/cx3110x-1.2/src modules15:40
Free_maNmake[2]: Entering directory `/targets/test-nokia/usr/src/kernel-source-2.6.16'15:40
Free_maNMakefile:480: .config: No such file or directory15:40
Free_maN  WARNING: Symbol version dump /targets/test-nokia/usr/src/kernel-source-2.6.16/Module.symvers15:40
Free_maN           is missing; modules will have no dependencies and modversions.15:40
Free_maN  Building modules, stage 2.15:40
Free_maNmake[3]: *** No rule to make target `.config'.  Stop.15:40
Free_maNi have error for compil cx311015:40
Free_maNwhere is .config for n77015:41
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zuhI think 'make n770_defconfig' in the kernel src dir should work15:58
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rhsanbornDoes anyone know a secret trick to remove more than one email at a time from the email app? I have roughly 700 emails in there and each one takes at least 4 seconds to delete...18:08
defor^workhah18:09
mgedminI bet reflashing would remove all 700 emails18:10
rhsanbornI don't like that response...18:10
rhsanborn:P18:10
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rhsanbornI'd better turn off the email app...18:10
defor^workno idea.. i just mirror my main mailbox which i clean at home, so it updates the imap and its all empty on the n18:10
zyxulnagareflashing will make you lose everything18:10
defor^workyou can clear user data18:10
rhsanbornI know zyxulnaga18:10
zyxulnagajokin18:11
defor^worklemme see if there's a way to kill multiple emails tho18:11
defor^workim still looking for a way to make rules18:11
rhsanbornIt would have to be a hack defor, I'm pretty sure there isnt  a proper way to do it18:11
defor^workunless i missed it18:11
defor^workdang18:11
rhsanbornBah, I wish I'd ported pine...18:11
defor^worknext one.. disable screen dimming/off18:11
defor^worki think pine is ported18:11
rhsanbornIt wouldn't take mch to port it18:12
defor^workim still trying to find out what i need to develop... and where things like a terminal shell are stored18:15
defor^workunless i have to install xterm18:15
defor^workas i see it's been ported18:15
rhsanborndefor^work, any idea where you saw pine? It's mentioned on maemo but no install18:17
defor^worklemme see...18:17
defor^workand i keep running out of memory on occasion, does allocating virtual memory actually add it to the system heap?18:18
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defor^workdang.. cant seem re rearrange collumns in email either18:21
rhsanbornemail is a beta app at best18:22
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defor^workya18:23
rhsanborndeleting the email accounts successfully removed all the messages from the app18:24
defor^workstacks of ui issues18:24
defor^workaah18:24
defor^worki gues sthat's a start18:24
rhsanbornI'm all but certain that porting pine will be as simple as downloading the source and clciking compile. It runs within the shell which will handle the sizing issues so no UI worries, etc.18:25
rhsanborn*crosses fingers*18:26
defor^workso how do you get to shell... xterm?18:29
rhsanbornyes18:30
defor^workok...18:30
defor^worki'll go install18:30
defor^workthanks...18:30
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rhsanbornalright, I've managed to login as root in ssh, anyone know how to add the ability to su to sudo?18:43
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ian_brasil_is there some problem with the maemo repositories today?18:54
koenonly today?18:54
ian_brasil_i was being polite ;)18:54
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ian_brasil_maybe an e-mail to the dev list when the repositories are off line might help18:56
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keesjit has been a quite day here two18:59
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defor^workanyone here use flickr and have uploading issues from the n?19:20
defor^worknm.. apparrently upload doesnt properly push images from bluetooth file browsing sessions19:27
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jack03can someone give me some help with sound on a 770? I am trying to get festival (flite) to play a sound. its trying to use /dev/dsp but no device is their :)21:09
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`0660i think you need to use gstreamer21:13
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jack03ok21:14
zuhSilja0321:17
zuhgraah21:17
zuhThere goes that passwd21:18
zuhWell, it was only for my N800 anyway...21:18
gla55_so you say21:19
zuhMy new one is asdkAWEplonk, in case you were wondering21:20
zuhdoh21:20
zuh;)21:20
`0660at least it's better than the first one :)21:20
zuhHmm, I should've played that like trying to query some chick. I might have gotten away with that right?21:22
keesjjack03: geting flite to work required some patches (at one point )21:23
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`0660you would have fooled me at least :)21:24
`0660though silja03 sounds like a bit too young for a chick21:25
keesjhttps://garage.maemo.org/plugins/scmsvn/viewcvs.php/trunk/packages/flite.xml?root=mud-builder&view=log21:25
zuh`0660: Yeah, it might have ended up in a raid and confiscation of my computer... So probably better to just forget that one ;)21:26
`0660yeah :)21:27
`0660haha21:27
`0660no i have no idea what really happened :)21:27
jack03keesj, do you have a link for this? thanks21:28
jack03sorry i see it21:28
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`0660maybe you did save the situation by saying that it was your password :)21:29
zuhLet's not get carried away now :)21:33
`0660:)21:34
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sp3000she said she was five, I swear22:06
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